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Answering Some Reddit Delphi Murders Sub Haters, Part 2

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I really shouldn’t answer this stuff, but some of it is so outrageously and libelously flat out wrong that they need to be answered because they are so nasty, so wrong and so destructive. They actually report my conclusions as the exact opposite of what I concluded! Very few rumors below fall into that category, but a few do.

I would like to point out that a few posters were considerate enough to write about me more or less respectfully. I thank these posters for their decency. I notice they are all men. For some damned reason I am a lightning rod for women on that sub.

(like instuctionals on how to seduce a preteen girl, A.K.A “grooming”)

This is the worst one of them all. I keep answering this charge and they keep throwing it back at me. Now that I think of it, I did write a post, “How to Seduce a Teenage Girl,” but I think I said the post was mostly intended for teenage boys. Anyway, that was a troll post and having had a lot of experience with them, you don’t seduce a teenage girl any differently than you seduce a grown woman. There are no special techniques to use if she’s not 18 yet.

Thing is, I would never write a post ever instructing child molesters on how to groom a child! Are you kidding? Hell no. I don’t support molesting children. Never have, never will. In fact, I have turned people in for child porn, and I turned in a neighbor for possibly prostituting their 12 year old daughter out to men.

‘exploring the sexuality’ of underage girls by adult males is definitely illegal and mostly considered immoral.

That’s not true. Grown men can talk about the sexuality of teenage girls all they want to. Of course it’s legal. And in terms of immorality, adolescent sexuality is a study of heavy research and many books and journal articles have been published on this very important aspect of our culture.

If he truly is a psychiatrist/therapist, professional whatever,the discussion of such taboo issues on personal blog is also unethical.

Peer counselors don’t need a license. And a lot of clinicians write about subjects like this. There is a sexologist who writes about this subject very regularly. Is he unethical. Clinicians can write about any are of psychology and psychiatry that they wish, even sexology.

The correct way is to conduct a study, compile the research, and present it to a community of peers for review. Open internet blog is not the way.

That’s not true either. I publish in academic journals and I referee for a journal. Scholars, including colleagues I have worked with, publish their ad hoc, seat of the pants, anecdotal and observational research all the time. It’s just that people might not take it seriously until you do actual peer reviewed research on the topic.

Can you imagine some poor mom dropping off her poor daughter to talk to a “professional” and its him????

I don’t generally work with minors for money. I have worked with one teenage boy though. I worked with two teenage girls, one 13 and the other 14, for free because they were in such bad shape. They were miserable and almost suicidal so they needed some intervention. And course we talked about all sorts of sexual matters because that was why they came to me in the first place. Most of my professional work is with people dealing with sexual issues. Last time I checked, they felt that I helped them a lot.

but i wouldnt doubt thats the reason he got into that field-

She just called me a pedophile of some sort. I have no more interest in underage girls than any other man.

Another libel.

I know everyone is entitled to have their own opinion- but being attracted to girls that age is 100% NOT OK- I’m 38 and holding a conversation with guy or girl in their early 20’s is hard enough.. everything about him is off – total creep.

If you don’t think he’s a creep you either haven’t read his entire blog or you agree with his views on the sexual availability & desirability of prepubescent or barely pubescent girls.

Sounds like another libel. Of course I do not think that prepubescent girls are sexually available. Are they sexually desirable? Not to me, but to at least 25% of all normal men they are. But no men should have sex with a girl like that. Actually it is more than that. The most recent study I saw showed 51% of normal men responding sexually to prepubertal girls in the lab. I guess 51% of all men are evil pedophile scum who should be killed.

What’s barely pubescent? 10-12 years old? No man should have sex with a girl that young. They’re not available to anyone. Desirable? Not to me but to at least 25% men they are.

In fact it is. Endless studies in the lab have shown that all normal men are aroused by teenage girls in the lab, typically maximally. In other words, men react just as strongly to teenage girls as to adult women. The only men who don’t react to them are dead or gay, so I assume this man mosluggo is a homosexual.

Frankly I’m amazed he hasn’t been investigated on suspicion of possessing child pornography.

No one gets investigated for possession of child porn for some shitposting they did on the Internet. Good luck getting a warrant for that. They would have to have a valid tip (you saw CP on someone’s computer) or they would have to catch them on CP sites. The latter is how most men go down on this charge. They also find networks and when they unravel the networks, they often find a lot of other people trafficking in this stuff. I have no interest in that garbage and I wouldn’t have any of it anywhere near my computer. Supposedly I’ve already been reported for this dozens of times already, and no officer ever contacted me, so it’s useless to call me in.

In my opinion, these statements are the reason for all the pedophi- excuse me, hebephilic tendencies….He can’t deal with a real grownup woman. So he “explores” the sexuality of pubescent girls. But Hey, he’s not a pedophile. Noooo sir. No way.

Are you kidding? I’ve had many relationships with real grow-up women ever since age 17. I’ve dated more women than most men will in 10-20 lifetimes.

Jeez, he’s an old man pedocel…Guy sounds like an incel.

More libel.

Sheesh, I am probably as far as you can go in terms of being the polar opposite of an incel. Where do these idiots come up with these ideas?

apparently he dates almost very young models (in his dreams).

Actually I do. They are usually in their 20’s. Last date I had was last September though.

i used to read his writings and try to guess what his DSM-V personality orders were, for fun.

More libel.

I don’t have a DSM-5 personality disorder, and I’ve probably seen 30 clinicians who diagnosed me over 35 years. They actually specifically stated that I didn’t have a personality disorder, thank God.

Hmmmm….the quotes from the first few paragraphs were plagiarized verbatim from this very subreddit. I’m surprised you didn’t recognize them.

I have no idea what this lunatic woman is talking about. She is referring to this post. I don’t even read that vile Reddit, and I don’t understand what material she thinks I plagiarized (copied word for word) from there, but I copied nothing word for word from there.

Another libel.

RL might understand the consumption and effects of methamphetamine though..

This comment accuses me of being a meth user. Of course I do not use that awful drug. I’m not an idiot. I know what the drug is like, and it’s definitely not for me. The three-day post-high crash alone is enough to put me off of it.

Another libel.

 

He describes himself as a lady killer.

LOL used to be, I guess. I have no idea why people find statements like this so outrageous. Don’t they realize that men like this actually exist? Do they think it’s all fantasy and lies. There are a lot of men like this out there, you know. I know, I made friends with a lot of them. Why do women find this so offensive? Anyway, this is a PUA blog. What do you expect to find on here?

He’s almost certainly attracted to young girls as evidenced by his continual references to pedophilia and hebephilia.

Of course I am. But all men are. It’s been proven in the lab endlessly. I am just being honest. But when I see them on the street nowadays, I don’t even look at them much. They are not very interesting to me. It’s too much of a young girl.

I’m not particularly interested in those subjects, I’m no more attracted to little girls and Lolitas than any other man, but I just think society’s attitudes about this stuff are nonsensical. Pedophilia and hebephilia are research interests of mine because I work with a lot of people who are dealing with thoughts around these themes. But if you want to talk about sexual fantasies and whatnot, all mine revolve around adult women these days, and often older women believe it or not.

He also quotes a study he just happened upon that is about the masturbatory habits of pubescent girls.

Teenage girls. Right. What’s wrong with that? What’s wrong with studying the sexuality of sexually mature teenage girls? It’s an important subject of research in terms of Pediatrics, Adolescent Psychology, Psychiatry, Sociology, and many other areas. They are sexual beings who are sexually active in all sorts of ways with themselves and maybe others, and it’s a perfectly reasonable area of inquiry.

I saw several self-confessed paedophiles comment on his blog, including one who graphically detailed his abuse of a little girl in Mexico.

Yes he commented here for a while, but most of the commenters fought with him. Anyone can come here and say anything they want to. If you want to come here and confess to your serial murders or whatever, be my guest.

That slug Lindsay not only left the post up, but made a comment in response.

Sure, why should I take it down? Did I support him? Everyone was attacking him anyway. Let them post and let the antis take them on. Fair is fair.

Is it merely chance that paedophiles congregate on Lindsay’s site?

They don’t congregate here. We have had a couple but the people who came here were mostly hebephiles. I had one on here for a long time,  but I finally threw him off because I got tired of his endless linking to photos of 12 year old girls and whatnot. I could care less about that stuff and I don’t want them literring up my site with that junk.

 I wonder if they’re members of the super safe password protected site? Just musing.

Of course not. Why would I join some pedo site? I’m not into that nonsense.

Law Enforcement are checking your site, slug?! Damn fuckin’ right they are.

No they aren’t. I’ve talked to LE in relation to this Delphi case. They told me they don’t give a damn what I write here. Don’t people realize that police have better things to do than to monitor some random Internet blog?

Lindsay also had a counselling business going on where he states on his blog that he counselled pedophiles.

I worked with a couple of them, one very briefly. I don’t really specialize in that though. I would almost rather refer them out.

I wonder then, why they picked the slug as a counselor.

They came to me because of some articles I wrote. They wouldn’t to make sure they were pedophiles. I assured them that I was 100% sure that they were pedophiles. One man needed a lot of work because he was suicidal and at serious risk of self-harm. He was going to hurt or kill himself to protect children from himself because he could not bear the thought of hurting a child and he was worried he might do that. As you can see, he’s a horrible person, isn’t he? Last I heard he was going to take some libido lowering drugs to kill his sex drive because he was so worried he might hurt a kid. I thought he was a very good person.

Of course, he’s not a counselor anymore.

Yes I am. And I work all over the world too. How about that?

His new job is writing made up drivel on the internet and begging people to send him money.

I work hard. I would like to be compensated for my labor, just like any other worker. Do you work for free? Why should I work for free?

There are some disgusting paedo/hebo apologist posts.

What do you mean? For those who actually have a fixated orientation like this, they can’t help it, and it’s not their fault. It’s only a problem if they act on it? Why beat someone up for something they can’t control and had no choice over? It’s like seeing a guy in a wheelchair and throwing him in the gutter.

Not to mention continuous rants about age of consent laws

I don’t really care about age of consent law as I will hopefully never break them anyway. I am concerned about very young men going down on this stuff. I mean, an 18 year old man going to prison for sex with a 16 year old girl? Two underage teens going to prison for having sex with each other? It’s crazy. And 18 seems a bit high. Most of the world is at 15 or 16. But it makes no difference to me as I don’t violate those laws anyway. I think most men who break these laws are idiots who get what they deserve.

(Personally I think the people who watch porn with innocent high school girl themes need to be watched very very closely.

Idiots don’t realize that LE doesn’t have the resources to watch the millions of men watch teen barely legal porn bullshit. We are talking millions of men here. They don’t even monitor men with openly pro-pedophilia blogs. There are pro-pedophile forums out there, and LE doesn’t even monitor the men on those forums. There are over 1 million men like that in the US alone. LE doesn’t have the time or interest to waste on some guys shitposting in the Net.

They will only investigate if there is evidence of a law being broken. There has to be a credible charge that an attempt or actual child molestation. For possession of child porn, mostly they monitor sites that distribute this s stuff, watch the traffic and trace it back to individual computers. Police don’t have the resources to monitor all of the “possible criminals” out there. It’s an insane notion. I can’t believe people fall for this bull.

Yeah, he is unemployed.

Actually I live off a trust fund, so I don’t have to work. But my health is not good enough to work fulltime anyway, so I work these side jobs. And of course I pay my own bills.

He repeatedly quotes pro-paedo studies, like apparently 95% of men are attracted to 13 year olds or some shit like that.

Nope, it’s 100%, and they’re not pro-pedo studies.  That’s the straight up solid science on the subject. The studies have been replicated so many times that no one even bothers to test the hypothesis anymore.

Isnt he the same guy who was trying to justify being attracted to young girls, but saying he wasnt a pedo at the same time??

Shit. The teenage girl bullshit again! Of course it’s normal to be attracted to teenage girls, even if they are underage. All normal men are. The only ones that aren’t, like mosluggo here, are obviously faggots. The only men who don’t turned on by these girls are gay men. It’s been proven in the lab so many times that no one even questions it.

Of course normal men who are attracted to JB’s are not pedophiles! Pedophiles don’t even like teenage girls. Those are old ladies to them!

And the American Psychiatric Association has even stated that men being attracted to 12-14 year old girls is not a mental illness, and it’s not even abnormal! Even if it is to the point of Hebephilia. Go read the Hebephilia discussions during the debate about DSM-5 (see, I actually read all that stuff). They threw out Hebephilia as a proposed paraphilia because they said it’s not a disorder and it’s not even abnormal.

I’ll tell you what. I’ll argue the science, and you all argue the hysteria, pseudoscience and unscientific bullshit. Deal?

And if i remember right, he said hes a doctor/psychiatrist.??

I work in mental health as a counselor or whatever else you want to call me. We work on a strictly scientific basis too. And I actually specialize, among other things, in people who are getting wrapped up in worries about sex with children. And yes I have worked with a couple of actual pedophiles, and I understand the condition very well. Big hint here: They don’t get turned on by mature humans! They only like little children, under 13. I’ve worked with two of them so far, and neither had an interest in teenagers. Teenagers were too old for them.

at one point had posted a near-tutorial about how to seduce one

What? Why would I post something like that?! I can’t even touch those girls for God’s sake and I almost never even talk to them. I can tell you right now how to seduce a teenage girl though, having done so many times. You do it pretty much like how you seduce a woman. A teenage girl is a woman in a sense. What works for women works for JB’s. It’s not rocket science, folks.

how attracted to **him** these children were.

What! Hell no. I mean sure, for most of my life, some of them were, of course, but at my age almost none of them are. Newsflash to all the idiot women out there! Teenage girls like men! JB’s like men! Even older men. 18-40. Some of them do anyway. Anyone knows that except stupid women who lie to themselves and everyone else.

This makes me conclude he is a girl attracted hebephile himself.

Really you dumbass woman? Do you even know what that word means? If I were like that, it would mean that I am only attracted to 12-15 year old girls and I am not attracted to mature females at all. I would see a 16 year old girl and call her a grandma. That’s what hebephiles do. You really believe I think like this? You dumb bitch.

His so called “crime scene photos” were merely pics of searchers and natural flora that were so pixelated that the subjects could not be identified.

No one knows what those photos are of. There are many camera flashes going off right in the area of those photos. Does the brilliant Gray Hughes have any explanation for all those camera flashes? Those flashes are from a crime scene. They are being caused by detectives shooting photos of a crime scene. No way are there searchers in those photos. Searchers in a circle shooting photo after photo? Please. How stupid are you, woman?

Anyway, I think you have reading comprehension problems. In my last post, I said I didn’t know what those were photos of.

In short, if there is a rumor about that Lindsey hears, he will expound on it ad nauseum, no matter how far-fetched. I believe he never met a speculation he didn’t like

That’s funny. You realize that the ISP specifically contacted us and asked to see a lot of our photos and data? But no worry, obviously I’m full of it and ISP are idiots.

With the amount of information that he claims to have about the case there are only a few logical conclusions 1) He is LE attached to the case, but for some reason is leaking all of the information that is supposed to be kept secret or 2) He is the actual killer (only other way he could possibly know this much detailed info) or 3) A pathological liar / fraud.

None of them are true.

Of course I’m not the killer, but thank you for crediting my intuitive, profiling, and cold reading skills. Also I’ve already been investigated and cleared by Indiana State Police. Go ask the FBI. A friend of mine did, and the FBI told them, “Lindsay hasn’t left California in years.”

Of course I don’t make up anything. If I did, I would tell me group and ask them if they want to dissolve the group because I would be so ashamed of myself.

Oh boy, the clowns and haters over on Reddit are going round and round again lying about me. Some of these lies are truly pernicious though and as many times as I have refuted them, I always have to go back and do it again.

First of all, a couple of the comments are fairly respectful, as far as such things go. My regards to those commenters for keeping it clean and real. I will deal with most of it in another post.

When he first started turning up on sites discussing Delphi, because of the type of comments he was making & his blog content, people were wondering if he was an RSO trolling crime forums under a pseudonym he took from the other notorious Robert Lindsay

Whoa! One of us Robert Lindsays is a sex offender! Well, I’ll be. I always knew we can came from an illustrious family line.

I’ve definitely seen Lindsay describe himself as an extremely attractive man in the looks dept.

Gong! Wrong again. I’m not that tone-deaf. I would never say I was goodlooking because no one can be objective about that. Instead I say that other people have been saying for many years that I was goodlooking or very goodlooking. And at age 24, I did get two offers to be a model, but I turned them down because I’m so damned homophobic. Now that I think of it, that really was the peak of my looks. What I would give to have that face back!

Alas, when you bet on the body, you bet on a losing horse, as the Buddhists say. The handsomest men and the most beautiful women will all see their looks fade. I am 60 years old. Most women won’t even look at me anymore. But women my age still rave about how hot I am, so I guess I’ve still got something. Honestly though, I hate my most recent photos.

He is certainly preoccupied with his appearance and intelligence (such as it is).

It’s an IQ blog. We talk IQ on here. It’s what we do. If it offends you, leave. There’s really no need to talk about my intelligence. If you’re bright, it’s obvious to all around you. Just read the site. There’s nothing more to say.

I would like to say though that I did absolutely nothing to earn either my looks or my brains. I simply lucked out in the genetic lottery. I don’t see how that makes me better than anyone else. How am I better? Because I was smart enough before I was born to pick the right parents?

And in case you are wondering, my father was a very handsome man. I saw a photo of him at 35 when he married and he could have been a Hollywood actor. No wonder he slayed so much. And my mother has always been beautiful of course. My father had a near-gifted IQ (129), and my mother has a genius IQ (~147). She also graduated second in her class at UC Berkeley’s Boalt Law School. That’s pretty damned hard to do. All my siblings have genius IQ’s of 140+.

I guess we all got lucky.

His prose is the literary analog of explosive diarrhea.

Well, let’s see you do better, ok?

I won Best Column for a High School Newspaper in California in 1974 at the USC High School Journalism Awards. I wrote for my school paper and school magazine at university. Out of 50 submissions to the magazine, five were chosen, and mine was one of the five. I am a former Assistant Editor of a magazine. I have worked as a freelance writer. I have published literary fiction (short story). Gary Snyder, a very famous writer – look him up on Wikipedia – was at that literary conference, and he was telling people how much he liked my story.

I write for a peer reviewed linguistics journal and referee on the same journal. I also write books. I’m a published author. Most recently, I published an 81 page chapter in a linguistics book printed out of a university in Turkey. And that had to get through two murderous peer reviews – one for the journal and one for the book – including one that included the top scholars in that field.

So anyway, you don’t like my writing? Let’s see you do better.

The guy is a pervert and shows no regard for others and their comments. He constantly asks for money.

Pervert? Well, of course I am. Thank you very much. As long as I get those testosterone shots anyway.

No regard for others and their comments? Not so. Come to our forum some time and see if it’s true.

I don’t constantly ask for money. But this is a pay site. It’s not a free site! We hit you up of course in the first two posts on the front page, but after that, we leave you tight pikers alone most of the time. How bout if you tell me why I should work for free? Do you work for free?

I am saddened to think that anyone would believe anything he writes.

Ask the ISP. They requested to see a lot of our data and photos, and we sent it to them. I sure hope they don’t believe us!

He seems to me like a sad, lonely, messed up man with nothing but time on his hands.

Not sad.

Not lonely.

Messed up? Hey, we all are. But I work in mental health, so I’m not allowed to be too nuts, or I won’t be able to work with my “messed up” clients.

Time on my hands? I live off a trust fund. I don’t have to work. Eat your heart out!

I personally feel like he should be ashamed of himself for all of the nonsense he spews.

Of course not. They’re all rumors and nowadays at least we check the rumors out extensively before we even run them. A lot of rumors come from such unreliable sources that we never run them. Rumors are rumors. A lot of them will go bad. That’s just how rumors are. But usually some will end up being correct.

He’s banned him and deserves to be sued…How he hasn’t been sued and found guilty of defamation is beyond me.

I am certainly not banned from the Delphi forum. I posted there not long ago in fact. No one will sue me. I am a Journalism major. In order to prove libel, the statement must be:

  1. False
  2. Known to be false by the person who made it.
  3. Made with malice aforethought.

Of course I don’t print anything that I know is false. Anyway, you can’t get sued for libel for printing a rumor.

BA Journalism. Had to take Law of Mass Communications, run exactly like a law school class. We spent a lot of time on libel law. I know it better than you all ever will. I can’t be sued for libel because I haven’t committed any.

People that use tragedies like this to exploit others are the lowest of the low.

Ha ha. Well the police found some of our information valuable. That’s worth something. And the families don’t care what I write here. We have contacts with people who are very close to both families and they told us this.

I’m pretty certain that he is an Aspie (Aspergers syndrome) which is through lack of a better term high functioning autism.

Assburgers?! I’ve been seen by plenty of clinicians over time, psychiatrists, clinical psychologists, MSW’s, LCSW’s. I’ve gotten a few diagnoses but I definitely never got that one! I’ve dated maybe 200 females in my life. There’s no way I could have done that if I had Assburgers. I hear those guys are practically Walking Chick Repellent.

He is extremely intelligent from what I can see, and a lot of what he says is either stated fact or it’s talking about a rumor- that’s where he falls over, he is a bit time deaf and awkward to the mood.

Lots of people are tone-deaf, especially men. The vast majority of them certainly don’t have this massively overdiagnosed condition. Actually I am the opposite of socially clueless. I can almost read your damned mind! That’s how socially with it I am. That’s just about a diagnosis of Anti-Assburgers, if there is such a thing.

Same reason he spends his days on Quora answering questions.

Queera banned me. Thank God! Why is answering questions on Queera all the time imply being tone-deaf? There are hundreds or thousands of people who do just that.

The part I have a problem with is not only does he obsess about pedo vs. hebe., he said he went into chat rooms with little girls and also went on and on about how sexual 9 yr old girls were.

This is so wrong! I have never gone into chat rooms where there were little girls. Why would I go into a place like that? I’d be ashamed to anywhere near a place like that.

As part of some anti-pedophile research I was doing to try to disprove some common arguments pedophiles use to support having sex with kids, I did go into bulletin boards where teenage girls were talking about developmental milestones, which I was doing research on as the age of pubertal markers is said to be dropping. It just so happened that  they were discussing their sexual behavior too. They were just bulletin boards like Reddit, sitting on the Net for anyone to see. No one was chatting in real time. You can go read them yourself if you wish.

I wasn’t there for that, but I got out a pen and tallied it up anyway. It’s good research. Underage teenage sex is problematic in a lot of ways and causes some society problems. We need to learn as much about it as possible. It’s a public health matter.

That nine year old girl stuff is some real slander. Pedophiles argue that little children have strong sex drive, want to have sex with adults and  try to seduce adults all the time. That argument seemed dubious to me, so I was out to disprove it. That’s why I was on the bulletin board. And on the contrary, my research determined that pre-pubertal children do not have much of a real sex drive at all.

The sex drive comes on in girls at age 13 nowadays, and at that time, many start masturbating, fantasizing about sex, and desiring to have sex with other humans. I found little of that behavior before age 13. So this person has completely misrepresented my position. In fact, they have turned it completely upside down.

I’m getting called a pedophile for doing anti-pedophile research! What in God’s name is wrong with you?

“hot girls throw themselves at me”

LOL wut. Baby, I’m 60 years old. That was way back in the old days, and those days are long gone, never to come again. But yes, it was like that for a bit. People just don’t understand how good handsome men can have it if they play their cards right and perfect their charm, Game, personality, etc. You would not believe the type of lives they can live and the crazy things that can happen to them. It’s the sort of stuff you hear about it and say, “That never happens to anyone!” except it does happen to Chad. I have known many young men like this, and oh boy, the stories I could tell you.

it is NOT okay to be discussing little girls(9 freaking trs old!) Sexuality.

It is ok. I will do it again just to piss you off. As far as the sexuality of 9 year old girls goes, as a good rule, they don’t have any! They don’t have  any real sex drive the way we adults do. They do not have the physical sex drive that mature females do. There are physical sensations of the mature female sex drive that I will not go into here, but girls have none of these. Furthermore, little girls do not seem to have any interest in having sex with other humans.

This is the psychological component of the mature female sex drive. One of my best woman friends once described it to me as a feeling of “hunger.” Well, little girls don’t have that. Yes, little girls do engage in sex play. We call it childhood sex play and it is extremely common. I hear about it from clients all the time. This seems to be more exploratory or curiosity seeking as opposed to the type of actual physical and psychological sex drive of a mature adult.

You happy now?

He admitted going into CHILDREN’S chat sites and discussing sexuality with them…He crossed the line with his “research” and I didn’t care to support someone who would blur those kinds of lines for any reason…they were still trying to explain the problem wasn’t him being specific about age or development preferences in child sex offenders, it was his activities and methods of getting information.

We already discussed this, well, libel. Of course I did no such thing and would not ever do such a thing. I’d rather kill myself.

Oh, ugh, I forgot he was talking about underage girls being attracted to him.

Haha! Baby, I am 60 years old. Come on, please. How many 60 year old men are able to attract underage teenage girls? .01%? I wish they were still attracted to me. That would be so great for my ego. I would not feel so old. But really? This does still happen to me, but almost never, maybe only once a year. The last time was nine months ago, she was a 15 year old girl, and she was a total knockout. You’re welcome. I am so proud of myself! Eat your hearts out, haters.

As someone who is usually called a “hot girl “ you’d never see me ever hit on him let alone lie and say he’s attractive.

Evangitron baby doll, I wouldn’t touch your hot ass with a 10 foot pole and an 11 foot extension!

He should be looked at for at least the creepy research with young girls.

Turn me in, Evangitron, for reading bulletin boards on the Internet! I dare you.

Honestly, it his was what he wrote in his blog about the pre-teen sex drive and his own ‘studies’ that creeped me out more than anything he ever posted about Delphi.

Sigh. Here we go again. My studies determined that “preteens” don’t have any damned sex drive, for Chrissake! That blows up one of the pedos’ biggest justifications for molesting kids! You happy now?

Haven’t looked for a long time, but I see he still has some of his milder views re teenage girls on his older blog posts

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/test-to-see-if-a-man-is-gay-or-not/

I love it! One of my favorite posts of all time! Thank you so much for linking to that. And yes it is a gay test, and all you guys who say that girl doesn’t turn you on, well, you’re all a bunch of faggots, ok? Have fun in Frisco, boys!

…he came into the biggest fb group posting such unusually graphic sexual assault scenarios to explain the crime scene, that he got himself banned from the group within a few days + mass-reported to the Delphi tip line (he ranted about being questioned by police on his blog not long after being booted from the group)…Being kicked out of the group & questioned by LE was what set off his first round of blog rants.

I don’t care about those silly bitches and their hen party groups. They can have them.

Sheesh. Ranted? How would you like to get reported to the police 50 times for no good reason as a suspect in one of the most notorious modern murder cases? Would you be happy with that?

and it was so sensationalized because he wanted/needed people to pay him.

Not really. Some of the rumors were quite gruesome and nasty as far as how the girls were killed, but we had to report them, as they were good rumors that had a lot of traction.

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New Photos of Robert Lindsay

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Taken September 3, 2017 in an Indian restaurant in Mountain View, California. In other words, Silicon Valley.

I really hate this pic and think it is ugly as sin, but women like it. A woman my age said, “Wow, no way is that a bad pic. You’re a really handsome man.” And an 19 year old girl, a friend of mine, just told me thought it looked good too. Also that my hands looked good, whatever that means.

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Same pic, same night. Some Indian waiter came and stood next to me for a couple of pics. My date took the photo. She was a model in her late 20’s. Earlier in the day I had a date with another young woman. Neither one worked out very well, but I was so happy to date two women in one day! I’ve never done that before. A new first.

Just having two dates in one day got my confidence so revved up that I was looking around for another woman to have brunch with the next day.

Three days later, I asked out a woman working in a supermarket, but she had a husband.

Four days later, I met an IT worker, a 27 year old Australian woman whose husband worked for Tesla in a coffee shop in Menlo Park. She said, “You don’t have a place to stay? How sad. You can come stay with my husband and me at our place. We will fix you dinner.”

Just as she said that one of my female cousins, a 55 year old woman, walked into the shop and took me away with her. I ended up spending the night at her place with her family. We pretty much grew up together, and she and my other two girl cousins were my best friends, like sisters. And they all taught me all about females.

My Mom had called my cousin and asked if I could stay there, and my cousin said sure. Then my Mom called me and told me I could stay at my cousin’s. Then she said,

“Now Bob! She has two teenage girls, one 17 and the other 15. I want you to be on your very best behavior around those girls! I don’t want to hear about any problems between you and those girls!” There weren’t any problems. Actually the 15 year old was extremely friendly, and I had never met her before.

That’s so funny. Even my own Mom knows what a perverted old bastard I am. I don’t have any preference for teenage girls of course anymore than any other man does. It’s just that a teenage girl isn’t a girl to me. The only things that are girls are those females under 13. 13-17, that’s more or less a woman, especially 15-17. To me a teenage girl is just another woman to me. A very, very young and silly woman, but a woman nonetheless. The JB’s especially are just way too young for me anymore. They almost seem like little girls, and most of them are very silly and childish.

I don’t think I would mess with a JB nowadays though. Guys my age have sex with a 16 year old girl, and they call them child molesters and sentence them to 10 years in prison where you probably get beat up as a chomo. I like to live dangerously, but I ain’t taking that risk.

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“The Most Uncomfortably Honest Person On the Net”

Otherwise known as me.

What does /pol/ think of Robert Lindsay?

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Finally, somebody actually gets it. 95% of the stuff you hear about me is flat out wrong and the vast majority of that is simply lies and untruths. People just don’t get me at all. All they do is mischaracterize me. I know my own beliefs and values. I can obviously figure out if I am being mischaracterized or not.

This is one of the most perfect analyses of what I am doing here on the Net that I have ever read. Of course it comes from pol, the Alt Right/Nazi/White nationalist/whatever board.

I’m not a Nazi (I actually hate them) but Nazis, White nationalists, and Alt Right people are some of the few people who have managed to figure me out. Everyone else just doesn’t get it. They read the Book of Me but they didn’t understand it.

I am not sure what this means, except that maybe I really am Alt Left. It’s disturbing that only Alt Right people get me, but maybe that makes sense I am really Alt Left after all, with the original Alt Left being an Alt Right split. The original Alt Left had Alt Right roots (in fact it was an open Alt Right split), and the presence of certain aspects of the Alt Right are present in much of the true Alt Left to this day.

It’s a complicated theory, but Rabbit has written some excellent analyses along these lines. Read him if you don’t get it. Let’s put it this way. One great thing about the Alt Right was this Realism Uber Alles attitude – race realism, gender realism, sexual orientation realism, gender identity realism. It’s a scientific attitude towards the bitter  facts of life that rejects the SJW feel good mythology of Soma and happy pills. The SJW’s hearts are in the right place in a sense – they want everyone to be nice and quit picking on everyone else – but it’s anti-reality and they’ve turned into some weird Church Lady Commissars. They aren’t even fun anymore. SJW’s are as fun as a stern nun with a ruler in her hand.

Sometime I think Brandon Adamson is one the few Alt Left people who has figured me out. We are different, but in a way, Brandon is my child. The deepest roots of Brandon’s Alt Left are found in his reading of my Liberal Race Realism, my previous political project, which set Brandon slowly down the road to the Alt Left. LRR more or less turned into the Alt Left over years.

Most of the Alt Left is still far too rightwing for my and hopefully Brandon’s sensibilities.

It’s interesting though that the very earliest Alt Leftists (I will include Ryan England here also) are the ones who truly understood and stayed faithful to the complicated ethos of the early visions of the Alt Left.

In particular, the early Alt Left was very left on economics. I am some sort of weird liberal-to-Commie type and Brandon likes to call himself a “space Communist.” Ryan was originally know as Agent Commie, and his thinking has Marxist roots.

Brandon is getting some new followers that seem to be onto his Left of the Alt Right project – some sort of weird leftwing White nationalism which I do not support – but I wish him well. I’d be quite happy if more of these Alt Right guys went socialist. I don’t care if they vote of us or not. Why should I care? A sane politics grabs every vote it can.

How many people do Nazis kill, anyway? A few here and there?

And the neoliberalism of the corporate Democrats has killed tens of millions.

And the insane neoconservative wars of the Cold War Democrats has killed close to 2 million since 2003 alone.

What are we talking about here? At least 22 million deaths?

How many have these Alt Right Nazis killed in the last 30 years? It sure ain’t 22 million.

A socialist Nazi is 20 times better than a corporate Democrat, and I hate Nazis.

You pick your poison in life. Life is basically toxic, and you simply choose the poisons that harm you the least. And then you die.

Ashes, ashes, all fall down.

Momento mori!

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My Haters Don’t Even Understand What I Write About

I think my haters have no idea what I am talking about. There is some crazy bitch over at Reddit going on and on about me and she mentioned the recent article called The Biggest Feminist Lie of Them All.

She’s cursing under her breath and calling me a lowlife and scum and saying I should be killed. From what she wrote about this piece, she apparently misunderstood the piece entirely. She came away with some bizarre idea that I was saying “straight women are as big of whores as gay men.” But the piece doesn’t say that. Actually, it says the opposite!

This seems to be true with all these Net haters. They don’t even seem to understand my pieces at all, so they give them these bizarre evil interpretation that is nothing at all like what I wrote.

I’ve noticed this in life. If people don’t understand you:

  1. They say you’re crazy. Because obviously if you were sane would be intelligible to this person.
  2. They say you’re evil. I can’t count the number of times people have come away with all of these wicked, diabolical interpretations of some article I wrote that that completely misrepresent the piece and show only that the person hasn’t understood anything I have written.

Incomprehensible people are either crazy or evil or probably both. Why is that? If I can’t understand some guy, how does that make him psychotic or wicked? Perhaps incomprehensible things are seen as intrinsically disordered and irrational, while also being very dangerous.

They have been doing this with every one of my Delphi pieces. I wrote some gruesome things about how those girls were murdered; after all, it’s relevant. The interpretation that almost everyone came away with was that I was some extremely dangerous sick fuck, possibly a would-be serial killer myself. Almost everyone said that when I was talking about those girls were killed, I was describing my sexual fantasies. In other words, I am some sick fuck who has sexual fantasies about kidnapping, torturing, attacking, cutting up, and murdering teenage girls. I get off on this. Apparently I sit around and jerk off thinking about this.

I have no idea how they came to that insane interpretation. Cause of death is important in homicides, and gruesome murders need to be described just like anything else in life. There’s a whole industry devoted to doing not much more than that.

While I know there are men who have sexual fantasies about this, and I don’t care as long as they don’t act on them, that’s not the sort of thing that gets me off. Never has, never will. In fact, I tried to watch some “rape porn” a while back for the Hell of it, and I couldn’t even get through the first 30 seconds of most of them before I had to turn them off. The videos were just too horrible to bear. They were literally horrific.

Another unanimous decision is that I write gleefully about these gruesome murders. I have no idea how they came away with that. That certainly wasn’t my intention, and I don’t find homicides like this a joking matter. Where on Earth did they get the idea that my posts were somehow gleeful? How bizarre.

For a while there, I was misspelling Abbie’s name as Abby. A lot of people said that I was doing this on purpose for some wicked reason, apparently because I hated her and I was secretly was trying to libel or make fun of her name. The truth was that I misunderstood how her name was spelled. Nothing sinister about it.

Another thing I keep hearing is that “I am way too involved in the case.” This means that I am some sort of a sick fuck like the type of guy who killed those girls. Even if I don’t do those things, I guess I like to think about them. This has resulted in over 50 tips to the tipline turning me in as the guy who killed those girls. Lots of people are fascinated by true crime and mysteries, and homicides are particularly intriguing to many people. Not to mention I am part of a group that is trying very hard to solve this crime.

Somehow people have also decided that I am a “hebephile.” 99% of the population are too slow to understand what this word means, so I will define it in this post for all the learning disabled pinheads out there.

 

Somehow most everyone believes that I have this bizarre preference for teenage girls and this is why I am writing about Abbie and Libby. Obviously I want to fuck both of them! Well, it’s a bit late for that, but the accusation is that I am turned on by these girls, and I have wild sexual fantasies about them. I don’t want to libel the girls’ memories, but I must say that both of those girls do absolutely nothing for me. That’s way too much of a young girl. They’re about as sexy as a 10 year old.

It’s bizarre how people will take completely innocuous statements or actions and twist them around into something wicked, evil, or despicable.

 

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Something Wrong with my About Page?

I think a lot of my haters people simply hate me for being me. An example is my About page. For some reason, almost everyone on the Net hates that page. I think one person on the whole Net, a guy on American Renaissance, actually figured out what I was trying to say on that page.

I’ve reread it 5,000 times to try to figure out what’s wrong with it, but I’m stumped. It’s actually rather clever, and I think it’s pretty funny too. Sure, it uses some big words, but if you can’t handle obscure vocabulary and lexical gymnastics, you’re reading the wrong damn site.

http://www.retard.net is that-a-way. You know, the site most people hang out on?

Almost always when someone posts that About page, the reaction is, “Wow, that guys really insane/crazy/lunatic/mentally ill/weird/freaky/bizarre/incomprehensible.” The About page is apparently evidence of insanity. As someone who works in mental health, you would think I know a thing or two about that. I’ve read that page over and over looking for sins of mental disorder or dysfunction, and for the life of me, I can’t see any signs of psychosis or  any mental illness on Axis 1 or 2 on that page.

The latest is that the About page is very weird, disturbing, and creepy, and it makes people very uncomfortable. Why? What’s so weird about it? How is it disturbing? Where’s the creepiness? Why in God’s name would a page like that make you creeped out or uncomfortable? I don’t get it.

Guess what? That About page is me. It’s really, really, really, really me. If you hate my About page, you simply hate me because that page is me at my absolute essential self, my being, my soul, my Dasein. You don’t hate me for one sentence I said or the way I walk or how I looked at that waitress or the strange expression in my eyes or some funny mannerism I just made. You don’t hate me for some minor situational behavior. It’s much worse. If you hate the About page, you hate me at my very core essential self. In other words, you’re an enemy. When someone hates you for being you, hates your true, pure, real, authentic self, they’re gone. There’s no bringing them back, and nothing you do can change them because you can’t stop being you.

More importantly, if someone hates you at your deepest inner self, your very Being, why on Earth would you want to change yourself to please this person?

You know what? What you see is what you get. You either like me or you don’t. You either love me or hate me. Take your pick. And if you hate me for simply being me, if you hate me at my very essence of selfhood, I have only one thing to say to you:

FUCK YOU.

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Happy Birthday!

Happy birthday! Happy birthday everyone!

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Repost: Robert Lindsay Through the Years, Plus PUA/Game and Vanity Stuff

Return of an eternal favorite, as I need a dose of vanity these days, not that there’s anything to be vain about anymore, but one can always reminisce, eh? I added in a lot of reminiscences about my days as a pussyhound long ago in another world.

This is the photo you are all familiar with. Taken in the 2000’s.

Let’s look at some other photos from the 2000’s.

In this one I look like I’m stoned.

Another one from the 2000’s.

I think I look kind of conceited in this pic, but I don’t care. I am vain, so what, what of it?

Some emotions.

Smile for the camera.

Hamming it up.

Big kiss for all my friends, but especially for my enemies.

More hamming.

Neener neener.

Recent photos.

Trying to be nice.

I do not know if I was goodlooking during this era, but women sometimes said I was handsome. Actually I hear that about these pics to this very day, even from women in their 30’s. When I used this pic on dating sites, a lot of women came and messaged me with variations of, “Hi handsome!” Unfortunately, I cannot use it anymore as it’s not that recent, and I really got scolded for using an out of date pic on a site recently. I had a date with a woman who thought I looked like some pic taken ~15 years ago lol. She came over to my house but was freaked out that I did not look like the pic.

The date was going to be pretty good – she showed up with an overnight bag and promptly announced that she would like to spend the night if I didn’t mind. Of course I said ok. I even offered her a choice of sleeping locations, but I always do that anyway.

So I replaced by older pic with a newer pic, and way fewer women come to me, and no one ever says, “Hi handsome!” I am afraid I am being attacked by an artillery weapon called Time. I have definitely hit the Wall in the worst possible way. But after all, the Buddhists say, “When you bet on the body, you bet on a losing horse.” Actually some women my age (47-58) still think I am hot, I guess compared to the competition, which at my age ain’t much if not zero. I even had an 18 year old girl going on about how cute I was a few years ago, so I guess all hope is not lost yet.

From the same session.

Hi everyone.

Ok, I Walled Out some time ago, and now I am an Omega for all intents and purposes. Don’t know what to say except a shoutout to all you Omegas out there – I get it! This Omega stuff sucks! If I had been this way my whole life, I think I would have bought it by my own hand by now. I don’t see how Omegas keep from suiciding. How do they do it?

One from the old days.

College graduation, California, 1982, age 23. Looks something like the oldest son on the Brady Bunch, eh?

Once again, not sure if I looked good back then. I have no opinion on my looks because my view is not important. I figure out whether I am goodlooking enough by other’s people’e opinions on the matter. If lots of others think I am hot, well maybe I am. If no one thinks I am hot anymore, I guess I Walled out. Welcome to the Omega Life. I’m just not used to being butt-ugly or unattractive, so I don’t handle it well. Are there some classes I could take or books I could read to learn how to accept myself if I’m butt-ugly?

Well, anyway during this period, age 23, people were falling all over themselves tell me how handsome I was, and a year after this photo was taken, I got three offers to be a male model in one year. I turned them down because I was crazy homophobic back then and I was terrified of “the fags,” as I referred to them. Never got any offers before or after, but I guess my looks peaked out at age 24. Interestingly I was also quite thin that year – 5’11, 150. Do they want models to be thin?

These looks killed with women. I used to pick up women just walking own the sidewalk or driving down the street. I would be walking down the street, and some woman would be rubbernecking me the whole way on the other side of the street, so I would go over, get a number, or if lucky, get her to hers or mine right there in the middle of the day! Some women would just stop their car in the the middle of the road if there was no traffic with this frozen zombie stare on their faces, and I would stop, get out, walk over to her car and and get a phone number or get her to my place or hers right then and there!

I went to a friend’s wedding party, and the bride of my best friend kept throwing herself at me, saying, “Bobbbbbbb,” and hugging me and shoving me against the wall. I didn’t go for it because I didn’t want to fuck my best friend’s wife at his wedding party, come on.

I was doing student teaching around this time, and my female Master Teacher, who otherwise hated me and was said to be a lesbian, once whipped out a $20 bill and waved it around. “Is $20 dollars enough? $20 to fuck me, how bout that?” I guess she was not totally lesbian! I turned her down as she was ugly and a dyke, and plus I was worried it would ruin my Master Teaching with her. Only time any woman ever offered to pay me to fuck her!

Later my other Master Teacher out and out propositioned me on the night the Master Teaching was over.

I went to a bar once with an older woman I was dating and three of her older friends. I danced with one of her friends, and in the middle of the dance, she stopped dancing, froze in place like she was turned into stone, and blurted out, “I am going to Europe all summer. You want a place to stay this summer? You can stay at my place, rent-free, all summer, I’m serious!”  I thought “What the Hell?” I mean I literally only met this woman two or three hours before.

I think she was trying to steal me from my girlfriend. Women and girls do this all the time. They are always stealing their sisters’ and best friends’ boyfriends. Most people don’t know this. Women compete like mad for men, and man-stealing is extremely common with women and even girls. Most people have no idea how viciously competitive females can be.

I dated older women during this time (age 28-37), and they would always pay my way everywhere, so I got to feel like a gigolo. It was fun. Crazy times!

One more from the real old days.

LOL it’s Tony Orlando! From the hippie era, 1978, age 20, junior college graduation, California. Most people nowadays think that hair looks hilarious, but back then, this look was tres cool. My Dad totally hated that hair, and he used to threaten to punch me out unless I cut it. He also kept saying that I looked like some actress called Veronica Lake. To him, born in 1921, long hair meant you were queer, but to us, long hair was a way to get the chicks. I kept telling my father that, but he always acted like that was insane!

Maybe I was goodlooking here too because women were always raving about me. About the hair, well, this is how you did it back then. If you wanted to get laid, you grew your hair like this. Women went ape-shit over long hair back then and shunned short-haired men as “geeks.” Women are girls were always running their hands through my hair at this time. “Ohhhhhhh I love your curly hair…..” with hypnotized stares on their faces. This look was great for women and even girls, as I was still screwing girls down to age 14 at this time (age 20). Hey, they were throwing themselves at me, asking me out on dates, walking right up to me and propositioning me. What was I supposed to do? Just say no? I quit the next year due to fear of jail.

Once I was at a party, and all of a sudden, completely shocked, I caught a mother and her daughter both staring at me with locked stares. The mother was saying, “Damn I want to fuck him so bad, he’s so hot.” I could not hear the daughter, but she might have been agreeing with Mom. She looked a bit frightened with a withdrawing vibe like she was scared of me, and she was sort of clinging onto Mom. I would think, “Whoa! Did I just hear that? Did that girl’s Mom say to her own daughter how bad she wanted to fuck me?” They went on like this for an hour or more. I finally left with the girl and took her up to the roof of the apartment complex and had sex with her up there at 2 AM.

I mean, a mother and her own daughter talking about how bad they want to fuck me? What the Hell, man? I never did a mother-daughter team at once. That must be like a dream. How many men get to do that? I know Casanova did a couple of times, and David Lee Roth was notorious for taking on mother-daughter groupie teams.

I went to a Playboy Playmate signing once at the mall in around 1979. The Playmate was very young, and she would not stop staring at me with this blank robot stare. My friends were ribbing me, “Bob! Go for it dude! A Playboy Playmate is hot for you! I’m jealous!” I shyed out, but I could have gotten her number for sure.

These were the days! I would do stuff like pick up two girls at once, walk by a woman in some guys lap and just reach my hand out and pull her hypnotized out of his lap and around my arm. Sisters competed with each other to fix me up with their friends. Damn, this was the life, man! I would kill to live this life again.

Ms. Lake for comparison purposes, 1940’s.

The famous Veronica Lake, known for her curly hair. The “Veronica Lake” hairstyle came back a few years ago, in 2007.

Th-th-th-th-th that’s all folks.

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Polish Political Scientist on the Alt Left

This is a very important article, the first review of the Alt Left ever written by an actual expert on politics, in this case a Political Science professor. The only problem is that he lives in Poland and he wrote this article in Polish! He seems to support the Alt Left. He discusses both me and Rabbit, but most of the focus is on me. And why not? I am the one who started this whole mess after all.

Here it is translated in the best translation I could do.

Alt-Left

Dr Hab. Jarosław Tomasiewicz

02-10-2017

For a decade I have criticized the Polish Left for intellectual impotence expressed in the mindless import of foreign designs. CTRL + C, CRTL + V. It is such a vicious circle: the peculiar combination of geopolitical, historical, socioeconomic and cultural factors has left the Left in Poland (aside from some historical exceptions) a lone minority.

The feeling of isolation meant that the Left waited for outside help (“Moscow yesterday, today Brussels”); elevating “brotherly international solidarity” instead of concentrating on the workers at home deepened the alienation of the Left. Where, a hundred years ago, the Left flourished intellectually (Brzozowski, Abramowski, Luxembourg, Kelles-Krauz, Machajski, Hempel – and many, many others), nowadays, after decades of importing foreign ideas and attempting to implant them in Polish culture, the Polish Left has become intellectually sterile. Bringing the Polish Left to the role of translator of external trends, I see not only me – a “very strange figure” as one of the leftwing editors once called me – but also the Left-leaning generals.

But there is no need to repeat myself as my position on this is well-known. On the contrary – I will criticize the Native Left of the Vistula Backwater for remaining unaware of the latest cutting edge Left political programs from our brethren born in the homeland of the World Creative Class, that is, America.

This latest development followed this pattern:

In recent years, the Hipster Left, now pretending to be a Radical Left, has sunk in the warm sun of a Liberal Mainstream now dominated by the geopolitical system. It was safe to fight for progress behind the back of the liberal state – obviously not to seek any pure utopia ostensibly criticized for “errors and distortions”, but it was still considered less evil than the menace of populism.

The Left was kept in check by the “enlightened absolutism” of the European Union and America reasserting itself as as the keystone of the global order under the leadership of  the benign Uncle Barack. In this way, a phenomenon characteristic of the final days of empires emerged.

First, the Imperialist Left who finance social reforms in the metropolis of the First World profited from the Developed World’s hegemonic oppression of the periphery – the people in the Third World – and therefore was interested in maintaining the existing oppressive geopolitical order This situation was described well by Bernard Semmel.

Next, the toothless Mainstream Right, centered on maximizing corporate profits, could still attempt to launch a Cultural War but was instead generally pushed into a deeply defensive position due to the increasing domination of culture by the Cultural Left.

Finally, the Far Right was more interested in their hysterical, sensationalist, and conspiratorial media than in the real world .

Until one day a Demon returned from the the past.

An “Alt Right” appeared on the scene. “The Alternative Right”: alternative to the Mainstream Right. The phenomenon is otherwise uneven. This is not a reactionary neoliberal/neoconservative New Right whose last expression was the Tea Party. Alt Right is the rebirth of the hard-core “Old Right” – ethnopolitical, traditionalist, populist – in new postmodernist forms. A unique return to the roots. And it was the Alt Rightists who managed to beat the mainstream left in its own field: to win the support of the workers using non-cultural terms (Thomas Frank was a bit outdated) and economics. Workers from the Core Belt backed protectionism against globalism.

For the Left, who has already forgotten the anti-imperialism that once characterized it, this is a geopolitical earthquake like a reversal of the Earth’s magnetic poles. Suddenly there was no point of support, no reference point. The Left must find himself given the reality of this new situation. We need self-criticism, reorientation, and re-evaluation. Answer the question: What is to be done? The most popular answer is: What we have always done, only moreso. Purge the ranks, dig in their positions.

This is a bourgeois reaction frightened by the status quo. The bureaucracies of the safe zones become the universities and the liberal self-governments of the big cities. Rolling Stone Magazine describes the formation of the anti-Trump coalition . There will be pro-immigrant groups, environmentalists, feminists, sexual minorities, gun control advocates, and  interestingly, “true conservatives” (the neoconservatives) who are reluctant to support Trump. Did I miss anyone? Did you notice? One group I failed to mention is the unions. It seems that the Left has insulted the workers. Instead of Democrats meeting with union leaders, Trump meets with them.

However, not all American Leftists are carnal cult members, confident that the repetition of certain rituals will provide them with prosperity. Some believe that the challenge of Alt-Right requires a symmetrical response: to create an alternative to the Left mainstream harkening back to the forgotten foundations of the left. Opponents see the emergence of the Alt-Left phenomenon as a new embodiment of the alliance of extremes, “the place where Pat Buchanan meets Ralph Nader, ” although Alt-Leftists reject any form of cooperation with actual fascists, hardcore racists, and obsessive and conspiratorial anti-Semites. Proponents argue that this is a de facto return to the tradition of the Old Left – “the Left as it was from the Second World War to the counter-culture of the 1960’s.”

This implies first and foremost, the primacy of economics over culture, the primordial basis of superstructure, and a return to the Marxian thesis that “being forms consciousness.” Contempt for the poor and losers in capitalist society is condemned as one of the worst sins of all.

“We will be Left on economic matters [but] more Centrist on culture,” wrote Robert Lindsay, a leading Alt Left thinker.

This approach puts the Alt Left in opposition to both technocratic social democrats that have long since taken up neoliberalism while abandoning the working class on the Right and the “Cultural Left” on the other side of the political spectrum. The Alt-Left sees the Right as simply “traitors to the working class – our class enemies,” according to Lindsay. But it is towards the second group, which the Alt-Left sees as “rootless cosmopolitans,” that the Alt-Left devotes most of its polemical fervor.

Alt Left tolerates the Cultural Left as long as they are relatively quiet about their antagonizing views. The Cultural Left is criticized not for the legitimacy or direction of cultural change but rather for its extremism.

Lindsay writes:

Gay Rights – yes! Gay politics – no! Support and tolerance for biological homosexuals to live their lives as they wish in freedom and happiness. On the other hand, homosexuality should not be exalted or promoted […].

Women’s rights – yes! Women’s politics – no! The Alternative Left supports equity feminism while rejecting  the gender feminism of radical feminists who hate men.

According to Alt-Leftists, the “Identity Politics” promoted by the Cultural Left led to the replacement of class struggle with racial and/or sexual conflict. In this view, White people were evil…and anyone who was not White was automatically a saint. This meant not only that all Whites were part of a racist class but that they also all shared collective responsibility and guilt. Let us note that while class membership can be changed relatively easily, race or gender cannot, which makes any antagonism engendered by race or gender insurmountable.

Another aspect of the Alternative Left is internationalism, but here it is understood as anti-imperialism instead of cosmopolitanism. Lindsay emphasizes that the desire of people to have a national, ethnic or religious identity should be seen as a right that can not be interfered with. The result is an acceptance of  the multiculturalism of immigrants in the first generation but the promotion of assimilation in the next. On the one hand, extreme patriotism and Western imperialism are also criticized –  the Alt Left even singles out Bernie Sanders, as as a “Cold War liberal”. On the other hand, the view that “the West is pure evil” is rejected. The Alt Left detaches itself from both anti-Semitism and Radical Zionism, accepting anti-Zionists but also moderate Zionists.

The American Alt Left has been around for only little over one year (the site Altleft.com appeared in November 2015), and is a small movement made up of a number of different strands or wings.

One of Lindsay’s followers wrote:

Unfortunately, Alt Left attracts a wide variety of weird people, and each one has their own clichéd ideas for what Alt Left should be.

Well, beginnings are always difficult.

Should Poles mimic the Alt Left? No. It is enough to return to our native traditions, a matter-of-fact, homegrown analysis of reality – simply common sense. Swallows can be seen.

Dr Hab. Jarosław Tomasiewicz,.born in 1962, is a political scientist and researcher at the Institute of History of the University of Silesia, a journalist, and an author of a number of books in recent years, Terrorism against Political Violence: An Encyclopedic Outline (2000), Between Fascism and Anarchism: New Ideas for a New Era (2000), New National Democratic Party Groups in the Third Republic (2003), Evil in the Name of Good: The Phenomenon of Political Violence (2009) and National Revolution: The Nationalist Ideas of Social Revolution in the Second Republic (2012), as well as many magazine, newspaper and journal articles. He is a regular contributor to The New Citizen.

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Just Got Interviewed by Al Jazeera

Just got interviewed by a writer from Al Jazeera for an upcoming piece on the Alt Left . The real Alt Left, not this fake crap the conservatives refer to as Alt Left, which they mean the Hard Left, PC Left, SJW Left, or Antifa Left. The real Alt Left is opposed to all of those factions in one way or another.

I just counted up members of Alt Left sites on Facebook and there were over 18,000 members of groups that appeared to pushing real Alt Left ideas. On the other hand, I would probably renounce 50% or more of those people. Alt-Leftist Empire is the largest group with over 10,000 members, and I completely renounce them. These entryists have captured the movement and turned it into some sort of Cultural Left Libertarian Nationalism. Or something. Most support Trump and neoliberal capitalism. Supporting either is grounds for expulsion. No Alt Left person should support Trump except in a perverse way (accelerationism) and of course you can never support neoliberalism.

This movement is like a runaway train and it has gotten out of the hands of the people who started it in a very bad way, but a lot of political movements are probably like that.

So an article on me and the Alt Left, including quotes, should run in Al Jazeera fairly soon. Another may appear in Alternet at some point later. The author was not real friendly to the Alt Left, but I would not say he was extremely hostile either. I really don’t care how they portray us. In Hollywood they say all publicity is good publicity and that may well be true in politics also.

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Official Response to Trump’s Remarks on the AltLeft

Very nice response by Rabbit to Trump’s idiotic comments on the Alt Left.

There are two Alt Lefts.

The first Alt Left is a fake Alt Left because it is a slur invented by the enemy (the Republican Right) in an attempt to libel the Left by claiming that people who want single payer health care are the same as Nazis! Lately it has been more used against Antifa types, but even there, it is misplaced. When used in this way, it says that anti-Nazis are just as bad as Nazis! Sound right to you? Nah.

Furthermore, the Alt Left moniker is rejected by the very people who it tagged. The entire SJW Left and especially the Antifa completely reject the term Alt Left as a slur. So Alt Left is a term like libtards, Leftards, pinkos, or moonbats used against the Left by the Right. Or when we on the Left refer to the Right as Rethuglicans, Rethugs, Trumpsters, Cum Trumpsters, or wingnuts. All of these terms are unacceptable because they are slurs made up by one side to describe the other side and these terms are rejected by the people they are said to describe.

So there is no Alt Left in the sense that the Right is using the term. Furthermore the use of the term in this way must be rejected by everyone on the Left.

On the other hand, there is indeed a real Alt Left. Just as Richard Spencer and Paul Gottleib coined the term Alt Right and more or less started the movement, I coined the term Alternative Left or Alt Left and also more or less started that movement. There is a post of mine called A Proposal for an Alternative Left a few years back that is, I believe, the first actual mention of the terms Alternative Left or Alt Left.

The movement sort of sat there and floundered for a while, and after a bit, Rabbit signed on board. Ryan England was also an early Alt Leftist as was Lord Keynes, although he split off into a somewhat different movement called the Realist Left. Another early Alt Leftist was an Israeli named Nicholas Kaldor. All of these people are still very important thinkers who are all Alt Left in some way or other. In recent days, Keynes and Kaldor have become more associated with an Alt Left split called the Realist Left. I would argue that the Realist Left is under the Alt Left umbrella.

Since then, quite a few Alt Left groups have appeared on Facebook, and as soon as the movement gained some traction, it quickly split into ~12 different factions at the very least, following the pattern of every leftwing group since Marx. I officially renounced some of them, to not much a avail. There are now still at least 12 factions, and there may be even more than that.

There are all sorts of Alt Left Facebook groups, but I have nothing to do with most of them. Rabbit and I have both almost completely lost control of the movement we helped found, which is quite all right. After, you cannot copyright or patent a movement. Movements often take off in radically different directions than those of their founders. The Alt Left, if it even becomes an actual thing, will develop into and take the positions of whatever those people want it to take. The members of the Alt Left will be the authors of their own movement, but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with it.

I recently visited the largest Alt Left group on Facebook and was appalled at what I saw. I made a post denouncing most all of them and said I was renouncing them and what they stood for. This caused a minor crisis, and I split off to form my own group called The Original Alternative Left. It’s still quite small, and it’s also more or less  inactive.

The large group had transitioned into something I no longer recognized. Most of the people in there were Trump supporters and most supported neoliberalism in economics. Right there, I would say they are not part of my movement. You can’t be Alt Left and support Trump except maybe on an accelerationist basis. You can’t support neoliberalism at all. Major dealbreaker, and you need to go away. If that’s how you feel about economics, the DNC is that-a-way. I am sure they can fix you up with a nice cushy job as a pro-corporate liberal .

Pro-corporate liberals have been running the party for some time, and they still do under the DNC leadership of Tom Perez. Although the party is now well split into Sanders and Hillary wings, the Hillary wings are still holding the ball and trying to run out the clock. The Sanders wing is very much playing defense as underdogs.

Rabbit has been a very controversial member of the Alt Left as his split is called “The Left Wing of the Alt Right.” However, that’s pretty much what the original Alt Left was. Like the Alt Light, we were originally aligned with the Alt Right (or at least used to read their websites), but we split with them due too many differences between them and us. Rabbit has some pretty racist feelings at times, and he has written some pretty racist stuff. Most of his recent postings have been racism-free though, and I honestly think he would rather talk about other things ,such as movies for instance. And Rabbit is one excellent movie critic. In my opinion, as much as the rest of the movement rejects him, I still think that Rabbit is one of the most important thinkers in our movement, and furthermore, he’s a fantastic writer to boot!

Further, Rabbit’s racism is attenuated by his liberalism, and Rabbit is absolutely a liberal on most everything but race, which describes quite a few Alt Lefties. Questioned about his racial views, Rabbit said that he did not with to harm non-Whites in the US in any, way, shape or form. Although he is a White Separatist at heart, he doesn’t want to displace or ethnically cleanse anyone. He has stated that he wants to go to some part of the globe where almost nobody lives and set up a white state there. Like Patagonia, Antarctica or even the moon. You might say he’s thinking long-term.

So as you can see, his liberalism attenuates his racism quite a bit. As long as you are a real liberal, your racism is never going to get too extreme and is likely to stay “the White guy next door” variety of soft racism that is almost ubiquitous (and I would say harmless) in US society. Liberalism is like an antivenom for racism. I have racist feelings myself at times of course (How can any White person not?), but I find that as soon as I get going that way, my liberalism starts acting like white blood cells attacking an enemy or antigen, and I can never go far down that road. Further, racist feelings feel like an ill-fitting suit that one is always half-trying to throw off. As real as they might be, they don’t feel very good inside, and I am generally glad when they fade away. It’s not something I want to think about, and it’s not a way I want to feel.

Antiracism is a core belief of liberalism. Liberals who become highly racist (and some do) generally move away from the Left altogether and join the Right. That’s just how it works. Left-wingers who go antisemite (and some do) also tend to leave the Left and migrate over to the Right somewhere where antisemitism has a more friendly home.

Here is an early Alt Left post of mine that has often been called a manifesto of the Alt Left, and that is exactly the way I would describe it. Read it and see what you think of it.

Official Response to Trump’s Remarks on the AltLeft

by Rabbit

As many of you may well know, President Trump conducted a press conference earlier today in which he specifically made disparaging remarks about the AltLeft. Many of these statements were slanderous and well off the mark. No one that I know who is associated with the AltLeft (which by the way has existed for years) would ever support or engage in violence.

As anti-Alpha Male anti-heroes, we don’t care for brodozers and machismo and people who eat chips loudly. We like our testosterone bound to SHBG, not left unchecked where it is free to bind to receptor sites willy nilly or converted into its more potent forms.

I personally don’t even like to attack bugs. In fact, I once had a black widow spider web in my shower and continued to shower next to it for a year, leaving the web completely undisturbed.

Occasionally I would glance over at the spider, its red hour glass glistening through the steamy water droplets, and I would say “Hey bud. how’s it going?”

I have no empirical proof, but to this day I like to think we had an understanding.

The idea that we would attend rallies and assault people could not be further from the truth. I could not harm a fly. Speaking of insects, I was as shocked as anyone when in the 1958 version of the film “The Fly,” Vincent Price and the detective just stood there idly watching as Al Hedison was devoured by the spider. They made absolutely no effort to save him, despite his desperate cries for help. Militants? Violence? Yeah right. To paraphrase Mike Myers in Wayne’s World “I don’t even own a gun, let alone many guns, which would necessitate a gun rack.”

Trump’s comments are a slap in the face to anyone who believes that the less aggro elements of Antifa and the AltRight should combine forces to get Single Payer health care passed and a plan for student debt relief. They could focus their dual energies on dismantling the College Football Industrial Complex. Time to get rid of the obsession with national championships, ditch the needless playoffs and restore conference rivalries. Go back to naming bowl games strictly after fruits, plants and other commodities rather than mega-corporations.

If the AltRight and Antifa groups are to have skirmishes, they should take the form of squirt gun battles, their classic Super Soaker 50’s and translucent squirt guns filled not with bleach but with Hi-C, Tang and Capri Sun. Yeah that’s right, the red pill is for squares.

The AltLeft is all about the Orange Pill. That’s where instead of spending a bunch of your hard earned mooncoin to attend a rally in Podunk USA and get maced by strange-looking subhumans, you simply head on down to the food court at your local dying mall and order up an Orange Julius, quietly(!) slurping it while daydreaming about the cosmos and reminiscing about the Radio Shack you used to buy remote control cars from in the late 80’s, which has now been replaced by some kind of ethnic eyebrow-waxing place (thanks to both globalization and greed-induced corporate imperial overextension.)

Go ahead, call us chic nihilists, fedora nationalists, new suburbanists, retro futurists or snorters of Pixy Stix. We don’t care. Deep down, orange you glad we didn’t take the Black Pill or the Turquoise Pill or the Periwinkle Pill? You know you are.

By the way, as I’ve mentioned many times I’ve always disliked the pill analogy. The Matrix is a terrible movie. The camerawork practically gave me motion sickness, and the whole cheesy “he’s the one” thing made this cynical GenX’er roll his eyes while mentally barfing at the screen of this melodramatic spectacle. It was a total corn muffin, not a sci-fi movie that I cared for, that’s for sure. I hated the digital effects and didn’t even enjoy the overall ambianic aesthetic as much as that of Damnation Alley, which is really saying something.

Trump’s statements are also a violent assault on every intelligent, well-meaning, teal-haired White feminist beauty who works her ass off in retail and reluctantly complains about how Indian customers are disproportionately cheap and constantly demanding discounts and other free shit. Furthermore, Trump’s words betray every Xenu-fearing person who has been stuck in line at Starbucks behind someone who couldn’t just simply place a fucking order without asking questions about every item on the menu…the calories, the ingredients, the special requests, the whole shebang.

When Trump condemns the AltLeft, it’s an insult to every person who recognizes that Vegas Vacation is the superior film in the National Lampoon’s Vacation franchise, even though Ethan Embry became kind of an SJW. What is it with former child/teen stars becoming SJW’s anyway? I don’t care about Will Wheaton, as I never got into Star Trek. Tristine Skyler (whom I had a brief childhood crush on after seeing her in the film Kidco and who outshined Christian Slater in one of the best ABC Weekend Specials, The Haunted Mansion Mystery) was a little bit more disappointing. She went to Princeton though, so good for her.

I really don’t understand how any 70’s or 80’s kid could get more than superficially into social justice. Our childhoods were filled with grossly offensive things, (remember Cabbage Patch Preemies? like ewww wtf I love social justice now), and those same childhoods were radically unmatched in their total awesomeness. Anyhow, suffice to say that Trump’s presser was a personal affront to anybody who found Back to the Future III to be a lackluster finale to the trilogy. I’m not sure how many people that works out to be, but it’s more than a few. You know it’s true. What Trump said is mind-boggling for anyone who was inspired by Warren Beatty’s charismatic “Guy Named Porpoise” speech in the 1978 film Heaven Can Wait only to wonder why 40 years later nobody prioritizes these issues.

Trump’s criticism of the behavior of the AltLeft feels like knuckles to the creep to every laid-back Beatnik Fascist that doesn’t care much for blabbing the drab gab but rather chatters hep patter on twatter, if you catch my drift. Not everyone wants to take the long trip to Roman Salutesville, but if we decide to rig ourselves a little shindig vessel, what’s the harm in a few kicks? After all, we’re peace-loving moonboots, and you’re the tabby cat with the codes to the missiles.

Every Left Transhumanist who seeks bionic upgrades, mind uploading, immortality and the resurrection of wooly mammoths should be disturbed by Trump’s pontificatory declarations about the fabric of our being. Like Box in Logan’s Run , we are “more than machine, more than man, more than a fusion of the two. Don’t you agree? Wait for the winds. Then our birds sing. And the deep grottoes whisper our names.” Trump may have “one of the highest IQ’s,” but he’ll be no match for us after we transcend our earthly bags of bones and fuse our collective consciousnesses to refurbished Tandy 1000’s.

People always claim that Trump is playing 4D chess. His moves are so unpredictable and counter-intuitive, and yet you just know the only possible explanation is that it must be because he is 12 moves ahead of you. I know this because I myself have beaten a computer at chess several times on the “very easy” setting. We here on the AltLeft have our own preferred game though. It’s called Hungry Hungry Hippos, and we’re playing for our fair share of all the marbles.

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