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I have been meaning to write this post for some time now but I have been terrified to do it. But it is an excellent subject of discussion. The stages of biological life that all humans go through is an interesting subject and it is perfectly sensible and normal for any human to be interested in such a topic. If we put this topic anywhere, we should put it under Medicine, which is the study of the human body after all. Problem is anyone who broaches the subject is going to get bombarded with accusations of pedophilia and perhaps ever reported to the police. In that case, let the bombarding and reporting commence.
The vast majority of people flipping out about a post like this are going to be persons of the hysterical gender, that is females. This makes no sense because the stages of biological life development ought to be very interesting for any curious woman. After all, every woman was once a girl, though no doubt most would probably deny it.
I would actually go further and say that there’s a girl in every woman.
Based on what? Based on years of experiences with relationships with many females, some of them even long-term. After a while, a student of women starts to learn quite a bit about them. Who knows more about women? A man who has been married to one woman his entire life or a man who never married and dated 200 women? I put this question to the smartest woman on Earth, which is of course my mother. She instantly said it would be the guy who had had experiences with all sorts of women. I don’t think having sex with prostitutes 200 times is going to cut it, though I guarantee you will learn a bit.
Sure the other guy gets to look at one woman down through the years, but one woman does not say much about Womanhood as a whole. He has a blinkered perspective. Whereas a man with many experiences (especially deep, prolonged and long-term ones) is going to sample the a good cross-section of Womanhood. As they say in statistics, sample size is everything. The larger the sample, the more accurate the results. The married man above has a sample size of one. The other guy has a sample size of 200. Whose study is going to be more accurate?
Women are mysterious and confusing and often make no sense at all. My female friends tell me that women are weird and impossible to figure out. But get a nice sample size, get to know some of them long-term and deeply, and after a while, you are going to see some real patterns.
As I said, there’s a Girl in every Woman. And if you can get that Girl to come out and play, you can have a lot of fun with women. Some women have apparently killed their Girl. They are too serious and no fun, stuck in the dull and drab monotony that we drearily call Maturity. Yawn. But only some women have killed their Girl. Most have a Girl in there romping around somewhere. The trick is luring it out. And here’s where your Game skills will come in extremely handy.
And another thing I noticed, though not from dating, is there’s a Woman in every Girl.
If you watch little girls long enough, you can actually the Woman coming out in a lot of vague ways. Watch little girls playing house and tell me those are not tiny Women. I think Girlhood is a trial run at Womanhood. Girls seem to be in the process of learning how to be a Woman.
Of course as girls get older, you see the Woman more and more. But even in teenage years, girls are trading Woman and Girl back and forth and mixing them up.
- Teenage girls are not children.
- Neither are they adults.
- They are girl-women, something in between that is neither a child nor an adult. A transitional phase.
It would be nice if rational people would believe this obvious fact, but alas, common sense has run away from our fair land and has not been heard of in some time.
A 16 year old girl has a complete woman’s body and a full-blown sex drive to boot, I assure you. But observing one lately, I was stunned at how much of a girl a 16 year old girl still is. Sure, she’s partly a woman. But she’s still so much of a girl.
My latest revelation came from observing one seriously hot 16 year old girl at a function I attended in the Fall. Why was I looking at her? Well for one thing, the feminists haven’t made looking illegal. They’re working on it, but that’s still a ways into the future. For another thing, she was staring at me, checking me out, and giving me bedroom eyes and zombie stares all night long, so what was I to do?
What did she want? No idea. But obviously I was making her horny. I’ve been around enough females to know what a horny female looks like. I can almost spot one half a mile away, blindfolded, at night, by now.
Not that she necessarily wanted to act on that feeling. What females feel and what they actually want to do about that feeling is a major part of female psychology that is poorly understood by almost everyone, including most women. See that woman staring at you all night long? Well, obviously you’re making her horny. Duh. So that means she wants to have sex with you then, right? Ay, there’s the rub. That’s not necessarily true. Maybe she just likes to look. Females probably encounter 10,000 males who make them horny in a lifetime. They don’t exactly jump on all of them you know. Thoughts and actions are two different things, although every day tens of millions of idiots can never seem to figure that out.
That 16 year old girl? Yes, it’s a woman. But in so many ways,it’s still such a girl. You don’t notice this until you get older because only then can you see immaturity for what it is. A young man gets too caught up in thinking these are little women because he’s not old enough to see how immature they are. Plus he’s thinking with his dick, and your dick doesn’t have a lot of brain cells last time I checked.
But you get to be my age, and you can see that girl as clear as air.
A 17 year old girl, ok, now we are getting somewhere. Especially right before they turn 18, a lot of them are after older men aged 29-59. This like graduation from Girlhood and on to Womanhood on a fast track. A 17 year old girl can be surprisingly mature. Nearly a little Woman. She’s way beyond a 16 year old girl, half a world away and past the International Dateline. How do I know? Guess. I told you I understand women pretty well. And that includes those little women called girls too.
But if you are around 17 year old girls enough, you are going to see that the girl is still quite prominent. She’s just having a dueling match with the Woman is all.
A few years back, I dated an 18 year old girl at age 56. How I pulled off this impossible task, I have no idea, but somehow I did it. She was interesting. Maybe I can only see it with age, but while there was a little Woman in there for sure romping about, I was stunned at how much of a girl this young woman still was. Even at adulthood, legally adult with all that comes with that, she was still quite a bit of a girl.
Although it was hard to obtain this information and the only way I got it was from men confessing to crimes, as soon as that sex drive hits, the Real Sexual Woman is out and about. There is a lot more to female sexuality than just sex. It’s a whole huge area of study that they could probably offer PhD’s in. The fun house mirror maze of Female Sexuality is what those Game/PUA blogs are trying to figure out. And they are doing a good job of it.
I read on the Net about a couple of men who had had sex with 13 year old girls. The girls seduced the men. Happens more often than you think. And they really did. Grabbing a man’s penis out of nowhere is pretty much open seduction, no? Because that is what these girls did.
One was the mother’s boyfriend, and the other was the stepdad. These men described the sex that followed, and I almost fell out of my chair.
Because some of the things those girls did, I thought, “You know, that’s exactly what a woman would have done.” Precisely. Something happens in the female brain with the onset of the sex drive. They somehow get attracted to other humans (How does that work?), and the whole weird ball of wax called Female Sexuality comes out in full-blown form. A lot of this is cognitive stuff. I assume that the rush of hormones causes changes not just in the female body via a sex drive but also in the female brain to create a whole new cognitive way of looking at the world. I’m not going to go into it too much because you guys should know:
- Confusion of love and sex, mixing them together, and mistaking one for the other.
- Suddenly feeling very vulnerable and even frightened.
- A desire to be not just protected but dominated.
- A desire for a strong masculine man for this purpose.
- The allure of the mysterious bad boy.
- A bit of masochism or often more than a bit.
- A desire for pain of different kinds and an association of sexual arousal with this feeling.
This is all cognitive stuff, and apparently somehow the estrogen creates all these cognitive effects in the brain. Amazing or what?
A girl after the full-blown onset of the sex drive is indeed a Woman in some very important ways. Now at that age, the girl predominates obviously, but I am stunned at how mature 13 year old girls are. The difference between a 12 and 13 year old girl is like a light year. A 12 year old girl is still not just a girl but a little girl. A 13 year old girl is no longer a girl. She’s a girl-woman beginning her maturational curve. And a girl that age is way smarter than you think.
So you see, the roles of Girl and Woman trade back and forth throughout the lifespan of a female. Girls are Little Women. Just ask Luisa Alcott. And women are big Girls. It’s a nice part of a woman, and it’s pleasure to see because usually woman are usually so happy when they let the Girl out. Happy, silly, joking, role-playing, nonsensical, absurd and even childish. But that’s a great thing to see in a woman, unless you’re all hard-faced and mature and all that. Plus she might be in love with you because women really let that Girl out when they fall in love. And she’s probably horny as Hell too, because you and I that know by a certain age, most girls are boy-crazy.
Spoiler: Answer is no. Explained below.
As part of my clinical work, I deal with folks who are dealing with pedophilic, homicidal and other disturbing thoughts. I listen to and read about thoughts like this every single day. After a while, it doesn’t bother you anymore. A differential diagnosis is always mandated in such a case, and indeed, I did discover two actual pedophiles so far. And they both presented in precisely the same way, and that presentation was completely different from the nonpedophiles.
In the course of this work, I had to learn a lot about pedophiles. I went to anti-pedophile sites where they have dossiers on all the Net pedophiles they have outed. I even went to pedophile and hebephile bulletin boards, though they are not as bad as you think. It’s all legal or at least no-worries gray area, and there’s as many pedophile-haters in those rooms as pedophiles. It’s not exactly a crime scene. But you can learn a tremendous amount about these folks by reading what they write on those boards.
One thing I noticed over and over was that pedophiles both heterosexual and homosexual insist that little children have strong sex drives and seek out sex with kids and other adults. That hit me as quite off, as you think of little kids as being pretty sexless. As a boy, I think I thought about sex maybe five minutes out of a year, and girls were sort of yucky. They were even contagious. They had cooties, and you had to be very careful not to get infected. This illness was a serious problem at school and even for a while at home for quite some time.
I have no idea what it’s like to be a little girl, so I asked some girlfriends. I was absolutely stunned that little girls are capable of orgasm. If you go on the Net, you can see a lot of women’s boards where they are discussing this very thing, which they often accidentally found out by doing things like riding the top of the couch like a horse. One woman said at age seven, she was riding the couch horse, and she really got into it at one point. That couch mare had some speed. Then an earthquake occurred and she almost fell off the couch. “Mommy! What was that?!” Mom came into the room, the girl explained what happened and I guess Mom said, “Honey, come with me. We have to have a little talk here.”
Of course all of these women are pedophiles for discussing their experiences, right? Please report them all to the police.
I knew some women who were molested at an early age. In some cases it went on for years. These girls became highly sexualized and I was told that some masturbated to orgasm from age 5-on. Just because it felt good. But they also all told me that they had no interest in sex with other humans. They all said that started up at age 13.
I don’t know much about little boys, but they cannot ejaculate until age 13 or so, so orgasm is probably out of the question.
The general impression I got was that little children simply do not have any real sex drive at all. Which is all to the better or course. We have enough on our hands with the teenagers!
And I can confirm that.
Prepubertal children simply do not experience sexual arousal and drives comparable to adolescents or adults.
Myers, By John E. B. The APSAC Handbook on Child Maltreatment. American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children
Just as I suspected. By the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children, and you would think they would know, right?
Yes, children do engage in sex play, and I hear about this stuff clinically all the time. Adults really need to butt out of this stuff. The kids should probably be told to knock it off, but involving law enforcement or even the therapeutic community seems like a terrible idea. They’re not child molesters for God’s sake! They’re children themselves! How on Earth could a child be a child molester? Nevertheless, this sex play is completely different from the sexual conduct engaged in by adolescents and adults. They do it for reasons, but not for the same reasons we do.
Kids are trying to figure out what they are, and childhood sex play is part of that.
Once again to our source:
Although we refer to these behaviors as sexual, it is important to note that the intentions and motivations for these behaviors may be unrelated to sexual gratification or drives as we adults understand them.
Myers, By John E. B. The APSAC Handbook on Child Maltreatment. American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children
Well, of course. Little kids have no sex drive, so obviously they are not doing this stuff for the same reasons we adults are. Why are they doing this? Curiosity, discovering who they are, simple play, fooling around, no particular reason, etc.
Now despite the lack of a sex drive, some children do have sexual behavioral problems, and they do need some intervention. There’s normal childhood sex play, and there’s activity far beyond the norm. These are the outliers, and you need to call in professional help form the therapeutic community.
All this research led me to the conclusion that little kids have no sex drive at all, despite the fact that the pedophiles insist that they do. Well, guess what? The pedophiles are lying. Surprise, surprise. The pedophiles probably have their reasons for wanting to believe this. If we posit that children have full-blown sex drives like adults, then this suggests that children have sexual wants and needs, and the pedophiles are simply coming to the rescue and supplying these kids with what they need.
The pedophiles’ sex with the children then is fully justified, and if this were true, logically, children should probably be encouraged to have sex with the pedophiles to take care of their sexual desires and drives. This belief lets the pedophiles off the hook and makes their behavior seem not bad, but good. They’re not hurting kids, they’re helping kids. I am sure this is comforting for the pedophiles to use this defense mechanism, but that doesn’t mean it’s true.
This discovery happened to lead me on to my next quest. Well, if kids have no sex drive as I assumed, when exactly does the sex drive come on? I decided to research females because I only like females. Girls and women. They’re all great. God bless em all and thank you Lord for creating these creatures.
I know nothing about boys. Perhaps a gay man can go do that research for us.
Fancy title, eh? I’m sure most journals would not touch it with a 10 foot pole and an 11 foot extension, but here at Beyond Highbrow, frankly Margaret, we don’t give a damn.
I went on the Net and cruised around to various forums where young teenage girls were discussing this very subject. The girls were asking each other at what age various sexually related events had taken place. It was often in the form of a quiz. I am sure all these girls are pedophiles for talking about this topic. Please call the police.
I went through enough posts to where I had a sample size of ~100, which ought to be good enough.
Results for Age of Puberty in Girls in the US, 2013-2016
Onset of pubic hair: Age 12.
Well, who needs that anymore anyway! Nevertheless, nature continues to at least provide us with something to be shaven off, though we men who came of age in the bushwhacking 1970’s and 1980’s have never understood this obsession of women to look like little girls. It feels almost creepy and pedo to us. We older men are used to hiking in the deep forests, not the barren deserts.
This answer was quite unanimous. Almost all girls reported onset of pubic hair at age 12. I did not think that the female sex drive came on with pubic hair onset. Instead, sex drive onset seemed to come on one year later at age ~13. Pubic hair if not shaved off takes about two years to reach its maximum growth, so adult-like pubic hair should be apparently in girls by age 14. At first it is rather sparse, but in no time at all there is a mountain or mons of thick chaparral down there.
Onset of breasts: Apparently age 10.
This was never asked, but it is generally about two years before the onset of pubic hair, so the answer must be age 10. I do not think that girls with breast onset necessarily have much of a sex drive. We have a few around the complex here. The 10 and 11 year olds are just little girls with no drive at all, and the 12 year olds, now quite shy and suspicious of men, don’t seem to have much of one either.
Age at first masturbation: Age 13, a few at age 12 and a couple at age 14.
Girls nowadays are quite different than from when I was growing up when female masturbation was a shameful and often-denied activity. I was absolutely stunned to find out that most of the girls on the boards not only started masturbating at age 13, but they also quickly figured out how to have an orgasm. If you know women, you know once they figure out how to get that orgasm, most are addicted for life. Most women I date masturbate regularly, often every single day. And this goes form age 18 all the way up to age 50 – they keep rubbing and rocking the whole way. Most modern American women figure that if there’s no man around, you let your fingers do the walking. I guess that reward is just too tempting to pass up.
Even more stunning was my discovery that not only were almost all 13 year old girls masturbating but they had taken it up with a shocking gusto. Most of the 13 years on those boards were masturbating to orgasm every day. A few several times a week. A few “any chance I get” or “whenever I can.”
So your average 13 year old girl in the US in this era is masturbating to orgasm every day or nearly every day.
I don’t know about you, but I find that finding shocking.
Onset of the sex drive:
Age 13. This was not discussed, but if girls go from masturbating to orgasm zero times a year to 365 times a year, there’s some explaining to do. The onset of frenetic masturbation nowadays seems logically to be the onset of the sex drive in American females.
Onset of menstruation or menarche: Apparently age 13.
This was not discussed for some reason but face it it’s not the most pleasant topic. I have known quite a few women who dread this time of the month and would be glad to get rid of the whole process. Onset of menarche is usually about 1-2 years after the onset of pubic hair. With pubic hair onset at age 12 nowadays and the explosive sex drive coming merely one year later, it is logical to assume that the onset of the female sex drive and menarche are pretty much the same thing.
That makes sense. Menarche means the female is ready to have babies. 13 is quite a bit too young for that, but Nature has other ideas. Babies are created not by storks but by sexual intercourse or penis in vagina (PIV) sex. If the body is ready to make babies, you would think that the body would turn on the baby making process and the act that leads to it at pretty much the same time, no?
It is interesting but rather disturbing that there is almost no research or even talk about this sort of thing on the Net. I guess Onset of the Female Sex Drive in Modern American Females just sounds way too pedo and creepy for most folks. But it’s a legitimate question, as all medical questions are. We all live in our bodies (some of us regretfully) so it’s perfectly legitimate to find out how our bodies work. We reside here temporarily in something called a lifespan, so it’s rational to learn about the body changes that occur in that time frame, including the development ones before we mature.
Gondwanan: But what explains Magic Johnson?
People have been wondering about that forever.
Not one of the many (1,100) women Magic had sex with has ever been known to have HIV. The woman who supposedly gave him the HIV has never been identified. It is quite a mysterious case. There were rumors that Magic was bisexual for some time before he came down with HIV. Yes, Magic was having sex with all sorts of call girls and sports groupies, but so were many of the big stars in LA in sports and entertainment. People discussing his case often note this. “Even though so many other men were doing exactly the same thing that Magic was doing with women, only Magic got HIV,” they note, leaving the implication up in the air. “Now why is that?” they ask. Rumors continue that he got it from a man.
On the other hand, Magic’s case is said to be so mild that even after all these years, he has not yet started on HIV drugs, and this is said to be compatible with his having gotten it from a woman because it is thought that female-male HIV transmission is so difficult that even when it does occur, the mode is so inefficient that the man only gets a weak dose of HIV.
People do not understand viruses. It’s all about viral load. You can be exposed to HIV and not get it, and in fact this happens all the time. If the titers are low, it simply will not transmit. This is the case in saliva. Yes there is HIV in saliva, but the titers are 99% lower than in semen or blood, so it is effectively impossible to transmit it.
There is also some new thinking that female-male HIV transmission is so weak that the man may require multiple dosings over a period of time in order to come down with HIV. In other words, he could get a bit of HIV each time he has sex with her possibly via vaginal fluids, but the titers are too low to infect at each time. However, with repeated dosings of low HIV-titer body fluid, perhaps a high enough level is built up that a threshold occurs beyond which infection can occur. But in this case, the mode was so inefficient and even the contracting dose or doses so weak that the theory is that the man may only get a weak HIV case.
And yes, your HIV case does depend on your viral load. With a low enough load, one may have only mild symptoms and may survive for decades, but with a high enough load via a very effective mode of transmission, HIV can kill you very rapidly, even within a year. Such cases continue to occur. Many such cases occurred in the gay porn industry and continue to occur to this day, especially among the “bareback” stars. HIV is so prevalent in the gay porn industry that I am not even sure that they test for it, and they let a lot of HIV-positive actors work anyway. Apparently if you fired all the HIV-positive gay porn stars or required only HIV-negative gay men to work in gay porn, you would not have much of a gay porn industry anymore.
erikthered: Is anal with a woman safer than with a man?
You mean penetrating? I guess you mean being the penetrator and not the one being penetrated. Insertive anal sex is as risky with a man as with a woman, but no one quite knows even how risky insertive anal sex is anyway. Figures coming out of the gay community show that it does carry some risk, but it is far less risky than receptive anal sex. A friend of mine knows a gay man who says he did some research and now he has lots of gay sex with lots of men and he hasn’t gotten HIV yet. He said he only tops, and he never bottoms. He’s topped hundreds of gay men this way in recent years. Surely some of them were HIV positive.
There is at least one case in the porn world of a straight actor who got HIV from insertive sex on a porn set with some transsexual person or pre-op tranny or whatever the Hell it was. The actor got HIV from insertive anal with him/her/whatever.
There is another guy in porn who says he got it from a woman, but he doesn’t say how he got it.
Men are at risk of female-male HIV transmission in cases of penile and vaginal bleeding. The Padian Study in 1989 followed a number of HIV-serodiscordant heterosexual couples in which either the male or the female was HIV positive. Over a five year period through ~700 sex acts, 20% of the men had gotten HIV from their wives. This means that a man would have to have sex with an HIV positive woman 2,800 times in order to get HIV. Even after a man has sex with an HIV positive woman 40 times, he still only has a 1% chance of getting HIV. You have a 99% chance of not getting HIV even after having sex with an HIV positive woman 40 times for God’s sake!
In the Padian Study, female-male HIV transmission was highly correlated with episodes of vaginal and penile bleeding. Therefore it appears that the presence of blood during the sex act appears important in female-male HIV transmission. This makes sense as HIV is a blood-borne illness. Most people tend to forget that. Semen is only so transmissible because it is full of blood (little known fact).
I have studied titer levels needed to transmit HIV, and looking at HIV titers of HIV positive women in the US, I am a bit baffled at how it even transmits because the levels seem to low to transmit.
Vaginal titers are quite a bit higher in HIV positive prostitutes in Thailand and this makes sense as female-male transmission is happening a lot more over there. But even in Thailand, most female-male HIV transmission was found to be occurring due to vaginal bleeding in prostitutes servicing too many man a day. Even with that going on, the recent introduction of condoms reduced nearly eliminated that transmission. So condoms appear to be effective even in the presence of vaginal bleeding. This also makes sense if female-male HIV transmission is going via blood instead of vaginal fluid.
In addition, the urethra appears to be an inefficient vehicle to receive HIV. Anal and vaginal walls which may experience tiny tears are much better for transmission, especially the former. Anal walls are much more susceptible to tiny tears and microscopic bleeding than vaginal walls are, hence insertive anal sex would seem to put the insertive partner at greater risk due to increased chances of exposure to blood via the anus of the partner. This is probably the reason for the somewhat elevated risk from anal sex.
Question from Quora:
And no one knows if gay men are “born that way” either, however, the latest research indicates that male homosexuality appears to be a developmental issue or developmental disorder if you will.
Something goes wrong in the womb with the mother’s hormonal levels, and this appears to cause male homosexuality along with a lot of other things such as left-handedness. In fact, left-handed men have an elevated rate of homosexuality. If it really is a developmental disorder like left-handedness, then people are indeed “born that way.” Not only born gay, but also born straight and perhaps bisexual, etc.
Females seem to be able to move around a lot more, and some lesbians can be changed in the lab. Whether they go from lez to straight or to bisexual is not known, but they are able to react to men after therapy in the lab. So at least some females can change their orientation.
If males are stuck at whatever their orientation is, they have no choice other than to accept it. If you are gay, you’re gay. If you’re straight, you’re straight. If you are bisexual, you’re bisexual. Quit trying to change yourself, and just be happy with who you are.
How, If At All, Is the Accent, Pitch and Voice of Gay Men Different Than That of Straight Men and How Accurate is Voice in Determining Sexual Orientation?
Question from Quora.
Most of these answers are simply going to be wrong in that particular PC, Gay Identity Politics way which is sadly so common among gay men these days. It is sad that gay men have taken up Gay Identity Politics because like all IP, it is based on lies. Gays take up IP like any other group does to protect themselves.
With most IP groups, there are negative things about that group that are flat out factual. The purpose of IP for gays or anyone is to exalt their identity, blow up all the great things about themselves and play down or usually to flat out lie about all of the bad things about the group.
The purpose of this is simple: the IP group feels that the truth is dangerous and if the truth about the negative things about the group get out, that could lead to prejudice. This is not a completely irrational fear. Because the IP group fears more prejudice, they lie and deny all the negative things about the group. Sadly, in most IP groups, this leads to near incessant lying, sophistry, logical fallacies and all sorts of lawyerese, diplomat-speech, half truth types of bullshit.
The Gay IP claim is that gay men are no more likely to be effeminate than anyone else. Yes, some gay men are effeminate, but some straight men are effeminate too. This is factually correct but like most sophistry it is a form of lying and deliberately obscures the truth.
I have been around gay men for much of my life. I hung out in Hollywood for years and Hollywood is gay as Hell, maybe even gayer than San Francisco. After about 10 years there, I had a crash course in homosexuality. Also I have known a fair number of homosexuals. In addition, for some reason, I am gaybait for gay men, countless numbers of whom have hit on me over the years. I have no idea why they love me so much. You tell me. Anyway, after all that, I feel I could write an encyclopedia entry on male homosexuality.
The truth is this: 75% of all gay men experience something called Sissy Boy Syndrome when growing up, and 75% of sissy boys end up becoming gay. As gay men are only 3% of all men and 75% of sissy boys grow up gay, you can see that sissy boy backgrounds are incredibly more likely among gay men than among straight men. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
75% of gay men were sissy boys. These are feminine to effeminate boys who renounce the usual rough and tumble dog eat dog trial by fire Masculinity Boot Camp called Normative Boyhood. Most heterosexual men go through this vicious process by which rather sensitive boys are beaten figuratively and literally into masculine men. Most come out of it ok, but some are damaged.
Gay men as boys seem to sit out this whole process. The effeminate boys did not play with us and we taunted, teased and ridiculed us. Effeminate boys were not welcome in our boy circle and I fear for any effeminate boy who tried to join. My understanding is that while most boys are going through Camp Pendleton for Boys, pre-gay boys or gay boys in the kitchen with Mom baking muffins. Now I could be wrong. But this is my perception.
I do not blame gay boys for bailing out of Boy Boot Camp as it is one Hell of a vicious and brutal place. But by never having their masculinity questioned much, perhaps the feminine behaviors get stuck. I have no idea.
Now why so many gay men were sissy boys is not known. It is probably biological and the effeminate behavior probably goes along with the homosexuality.
Perhaps gay men have brains that are like women’s brains. After all, the female brain wants to have sex with a man. And the gay male brain wants to have sex with a man also. In order to attract a man for sex, women act feminine and fluttery. When a woman wants sex, she often turns up the feminine behaviors to where she is almost a Southern belle. By the way, this is one way to tell if a woman wants to have sex with you. Women do this because feminine behaviors turn on men and make men want to have sex with the feminine female object. It’s all sexual signaling.
So when gay men want to have sex with a man, they act feminine just as straight women do in order to turn on the man. Perhaps gay men, still being men, are turned on by feminine behavior as all men are. Hence gay men are turned on by effeminate behavior in other gay men. Also when gay men hit on you, they dramatically increase their effeminate behavior for some reason. I know this because it has happened to me many times. I am not sure what they are doing? Sexual signaling?
Anyway, many and probably most gay men are at least somewhat effeminate in behavior. Often the most noticeable behavior is voice. Gay men themselves note this many times as in the common saying, “I didn’t know he was gay until he opened his mouth and a purse fell out.”
Also there is pressure in the gay community to act effeminate as straight acting men can be treated badly. I recall one straight acting gay men was a bartender in a gay bar and dealt with constant comments of, “Fire the straight guy,” “What’s this straight guy doing here,” “Since when do you hire straight guys,” “Why does this bar have a straight bartender,” etc.
In fact, effeminate behavior especially voice in a man is a pretty good way to out a homosexual man. The problem here is that many conflate feminine men with effeminate men. Many heterosexual men could be called feminine. They have soft voices, are sensitive, pretty, soft, wimpy, passive and kind and often are just not very masculine or or certainly not hypermasculine or macho. However, most of these soft straight men do have a certain “soft” masculinity about them.
A gay men pointed this out to me for the first time and a light went off. I do think that gay men understand the nature of masculine – feminine – effeminate men much more than any other humans. And they have an excellent understanding of masculinity itself.
If you can ever learn to tell the feminine men (who are mostly straight) from the effeminate men (who are mostly gay) then you are halfway there already.
It is often said that there are effeminate straight men. Technically this is true but once again this is sophistry. Yes, I have met a few effeminate straight men in my life and more commonly you see straight men who are effeminate sometimes and not at other times. In other words, they turn it on and turn it off.
Some straight men who are feminine, passive, and wimpy can become defeated by life and essentially run up the white flag and surrender. At these times of low self esteem, the passivity, wimpiness, helplessness, etc. gets an effeminate component added to it. Straight effeminate men can easily be mistaken for being gay because, well, to act effeminate is to act like a gay man.
There are some married men often with 3–5 kids who are absolutely flamingly effeminate to the point where you notice them. They always baffle people who shake their heads and somehow accept them anyway. Such a man will be very accepted in straight society even though people will say, “He acts like a faggot!” Others will quickly point out the wife and 4 kids and then the others will quiet down. In straight society, the wife and kids are enough to get accepted albeit reluctantly as a heterosexual.
It’s not how you act but what you do. However a gay man I know said he has followed this married flamers over a period of time ranging from 5–20 years and he said that all of these married flamers had come out as gay and left their wives and kids sooner or later during that time frame. So if you meet one of these flaming men who are married with children, a bit of skepticism may be in order.
While effeminate straight men are maybe 1% of the straight population if that, effeminacy is much more common among gay men. I would guess that maybe ~65–75%??? of gay men are effeminate to one degree or another.
Those that are not are commonly not so much masculine by can be wimpy (commonly extremely wimpy, much more wimpy than a straight man) or soft like the feminine straight men described above.
Some gay men do indeed act out and out straight. They look and act no different from any “regular guy.” However, I think that they are not common. The % of truly straight acting gay men may only be ~15%??? Anderson Cooper is a very famous and excellent example of a gay man who acts completely straight. In fact, I watched him for years and thought he was just another straight man until he stunned me by coming out.
There are even some gay men who are not just straight acting but are actually hypermasculine to macho in the exaggerated manner of many straight men. Jack Donovan is an extremely masculine gay men. He is one of the most masculine men out there and he is totally gay. I saw another hypermasculine gay man in a movie about bugchasing. This was one of the most masculine men of any orientation that I have ever met (reminded me of a longshoreman, sailor or merchant marine). I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that he was gay.
Hypermasculine or macho gay men are extremely uncommon. I would say less than 1% of gay men are like this.
So, like everything else, the continuum of hypermasculine – masculine – feminine – effeminate behaviors among gay men exists as it does among straight men. However, the graphs will look dramatically different when we plot them out and effeminate men will be dramatically more common among gay men and hypermasculine men will be profoundly more common among straight men. So gay men do tend to be more effeminate than straight men, but it is just a tendency, not a hard law. And straight men do tend to be more macho than gay men, but once again this is a tendency and not a law.
If true male homosexuality is biological as it seems, then the effeminate type behavior seems to be part of the package that results from this biological mechanism. In other words, the homosexual orientation and the effeminate behavior are bound hand in hand. And if the effeminate behavior is caused by the same biological mechanism as the homosexuality, then it might be hard to change. Anyway after years of effeminate behavior, many gay men will develop a behavior pattern that becomes ingrained and second nature and is extremely difficult to change.
If the effeminacy is as biological as the homosexuality, maybe we ought to give effeminate gay men some slack on the grounds that they can’t help it. If we are to accept their orientation, perhaps we should accept the effeminate behavior that rides along with it.
A typical stupid response from an obvious homosexual and my response to that. Note that his or its response is completely in line with the lies that Gay Politics peddles on an everyday basis. The main reason I oppose Gay Politics is because it seems to be nothing but lies.
If a boy grows up around women he might as well adopt the ‘female/feminine’ traits and even how they sound and naturally act. Your description of boyhood is interesting but that’s no indication of a man’s sexuality (trust me, I’ve been there, someone isn’t ‘gay’ because they’re playing house dolls and dress-me-up with girls as not every tomboy who plays rough turns out to be a lesbian).
The girls and boys who act extra masculine and feminine, respectively, may be seen as defying the social ‘norm’, but that’s no indication of their sexual orientation (for example, how would you explain bisexuality, gay/lesbian trans, etc. if it’s all black and white masculine/feminine?). Some boys may even be gay but they’ve been told not to ‘threaten’ their masculinity because they feel attraction towards the same sex and try to mask it with ‘masculinity’ growing up, how would explain that?
My response to his Gay Politics claptrap:
Kanchand, as the post says, there is a strong tendency for gay men to be more effeminate. ~75% of gay men are at least a bit effeminate. ~1% of straight men are effeminate. That’s a profound difference right there. The studies on sissy boys indicate that 25% of sissy boys actually grow up to be heterosexual men! I assume many of them become more masculine as they grow up in order to fit into the heterosexual world.
75% of gay men were sissy boys growing up. The % of straight men who were sissy boys must be quite small. We are looking at percentages here, not hard and fast laws. Everything is tendencies, not absolutes.
Also lesbians are much more likely to have been tomboys as girls and many are quite masculine as adults. Yes some straight women were also tomboys, but I have met some of these women, and they seem as feminine as any woman.
A man who acts extra feminine as you put it is highly likely to be gay. A woman who acts extra masculine is highly likely to be lesbian.
Bisexual men vary. I have met many of them. The more effeminate the bi man is, the more he prefers men to women. In fact, a number of these often closeted bisexual men are simply closeted gay men who are in denial. Many “bisexual” men like this can be seen in their 20’s. They are married or have girlfriends but spend most of their time in gay bars or hanging around gay men. By age 30, most are done pretending and have come out as fully gay. Closets are for clothes!
The more masculine a bisexual man is the more he prefers sex with women. In fact the vast majority of “gay” men who are extremely masculine have quite a bit of sex with women. You see this in a lot of “gay” male criminals.
Transwomen when they are out are obviously much more effeminate than most gay men. Transmen when they are out are often much more effeminate than even most lesbians. Transsexualism is often just an extreme form of homosexuality in my opinion. The gayest of the gay men tend to be drag queens of nowadays some type of transwoman. The butchest of lesbians often become either bull dykes or some type of transman.
This sort of thing is a lot simpler than most people with a Gay IP agenda of water muddying would have you believe. Masculinity is correlated with heterosexuality. The more masculine a man is, the more he prefers and has women for sex partners. Masculinity is a marker for heterosexuality in men.
The more effeminate a man is, the more he prefers and has men for sex partners. The dykier a bisexual woman is, the more she prefers or has women for sex partners. Most bisexual women who are feminine or act like normal straight women tend to prefer men over when. Femininity is a marker for heterosexuality in women. The more feminine the woman, the more she prefers and has men for sex partners.
This stuff isn’t rocket science, folks. There is no need to unnecessarily confuse something that is pretty straightforward unless you are doing it for a political reason.
This is my careful observation after 58 years on this planet and you are welcome to disagree.
Barack Thatcher: Sidetracking just a little bit. Could it not be argued in some ways “race mixing” is healthy because it reduces the odds of getting recessive genes? I.E. you’re more distantly related to people of other races?
Barack: hybrid vigor is well known. All of the best animal and plant breeds are produced by a process of ever more scientific “race-mixing.” And it’s gotten damned fancy these days. Look at all those cannabis strains.
Even in the wild, a species, subspecies or even regional population that has low genetic diversity (the pure races these morons cheer on) is considered to be at risk of extinction. In population biology, the more diverse the genome of the organism, the more healthy it’s population is deemed to be, as it can weather changes better.
“According to the findings of the Savic-Lindström study, the number of neural connections also varied between hetero- and homosexual subjects. For instance, gay men and straight women showed greater neural connectivity in the cingulate cortex and contralateral amygdala regions than straight men and lesbians respectively. ”
The contralateral amygdala seems to be related with sexual drive, though in terms of volume not really in “connectivity”.
In terms basics functions it’s emotions, thus it would imply that the higher connectivity relates to the higher “emotionality” seen in women and gay men as “femininity” compared to straight men and lesbians. The cingulate cortex is responsible for processing emotions.
“According to the study, lesbians and straight men have similar brain structures and functionalities while gay men and straight women share neural characteristics. For instance, MRI findings prove that the right hemispheres of the brains of the lesbians and heterosexual men have slightly greater volumes than their left hemispheres. But the left and right hemispheres of gay men and heterosexual women are symmetrical.”
My guess this occurs in childhood as I have hypothesize referring to the study on developmental sex steroids, possibly specific forms of E and T or different ones entirely.
No, the masculinization of the brains of straight men and lesbians occurs in utero. “True lesbians” are women whose brains were masculinized in utero due to developmental aberrations.
The feminization of the brains of gay men and women also occurs in utero. Gay men are men whose brains got feminized in utero due to developmental aberrations.
Homosexuality is simply a developmental disorder. Look how many gay men are left-handed. You would be blown away.
Another commenter brought up 2D:4D (fingers) ratio, as an indicator of testosterone levels, which is linked to gayness?
Have you heard of this?
Yes, I believe that is indicative of the developmental disorder in gay men.