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“River Traffic,” by Alpha Unit

The West Coast of the United States has many busy container ports familiar to most of us, such as the Port of Los Angeles, the Port of Oakland, the Port of Portland, and the Port of Seattle. The farthest inland seaport on the West Coast sits 465 miles upriver from the Pacific, in Lewiston, Idaho.

The Port of Lewiston gives offshore market access to farms along the Snake River, part of one of the most valued shipping routes in the US, the Columbia-Snake River System. The navigable portion of the system stretches from Lewiston to Astoria, Oregon, where the Columbia empties into the Pacific. It ranks first in the country for the transportation and export of American wheat.

The largest river in the Pacific Northwest, in fact, is the Columbia, with its headwaters in the Rocky Mountains of British Columbia. Its drainage basin covers nearly all of Idaho and large parts of British Columbia, Oregon, Washington, and Montana. Its biggest tributary is the Snake River, which flows along southern Idaho and makes a northward turn to go up the Oregon border and enter southern Washington. It joins the Columbia River near Pasco, Washington.

The Columbia-Snake River System is a highway for barges carrying wheat from one of America’s breadbaskets, the Palouse Hills of Idaho and Washington. Truck drivers bring the wheat from farms to grain terminals at the Port of Lewiston, where workers load the wheat into barges that carry it to the Port of Portland to be transferred to oceangoing ships.

Barges take longer to transport goods than alternatives, but they are without a doubt the most fuel-efficient way to move grain, as a barge holds the equivalent of 16 railcars or 70 trucks. Barges keep thousands of trucks off the major highways surrounding the Columbia-Snake River System every year and keep rail rates competitive. Shipping by barge is one of the oldest ways of getting goods all over the country.

The first barges in the US were basically box-shaped floats that needed a “push.” Some could be quite large and carried substantial loads. Traveling downstream was fairly easy; you flowed with the current, poling and rowing when necessary.

Barges have since become flat-bottomed boats that are typically 200 feet long and 35 feet wide. A single barge or a group of barges lashed together make up the “tow.” In some cases, such as on the Mississippi River, a tow might consist of 15 barges, grouped three abreast by five barges long. A tow like this carries the equivalent of 1,050 trucks. A towboat, steered by a captain and pilot, pushes the barges to their destination.

You might wonder as I did, “Why does a boat push the barges along?” In the way an outboard motor provides propulsion for a smaller boat, the towboat provides the rear propulsion for the barge tow. Workers attach cables to the stern of the towboat from the corners of the barge tow. Once the towboat gets going it acts as a rudder, with the pilot carefully steering the barges along the river.

It takes great skill to thread a barge tow through the locks of some waterways. River pilots get it done successfully every day.

Barges on rivers all over the US carry nearly every kind of open and covered dry cargo, such as coal, steel, gravel, lumber, grain, coffee, or soybeans. Some of them carry liquid cargo like petroleum, chemicals, or fertilizer. And some carry one-of-a-kind cargo, like the fuel tank NASA transported from New Orleans through the Panama Canal to California.

The size of a towboat crew will vary from place to place, but typically a crew are seven people: the captain, the pilot, two senior deckhands, two junior deckhands, and a cook. Work schedules might vary as well, but a typical rotation might be “7 days on/7 days off.” Or “14 days on/7 days off.” A 12-hour work day will have a “6 hours on/6 hours off” rotation.

One of the main duties for a deckhand is attaching barges together with rigging (“building tow”), a physically demanding and time-consuming job. His other duties are transferring rigging, handling lines, shifting barges, dropping off or picking up barges, checking the tow, minor engine room work (oil changes, greasing), and moving and operating portable pumps to pump ballast water out of a barge as cargo is loaded.

In addition there are tankermen who load and discharge petroleum products (mainly fuel) on barges.

You live on the boat for the duration of your hitch, so your other duties are standard housekeeping, painting, chipping, and in some cases cooking. The work schedules take a toll on family life, and you’ll hear deckhands declaring every now and then, “After this year, I’m done!” But a lot of them love what they do. Boatmen have an old saying: once you wear out a pair of work boots on the river, you’re here to stay.

Deckhands work both union and non-union, and in some parts of the US, there is no union contract for most riverboat jobs. But not on the West Coast. Boatmen working the Columbia-Snake River System – captains, mates, pilots, engineers, and deckhands – are union members, with deckhands represented by the Inlandboatmen’s Union of the Pacific. The IBU has been bargaining on behalf of boatmen since 1918.

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Bigfoots Shot At, Shot and Wounded, or Shot Dead by Humans in North America, 1829-2006

Note: Long, runs to 61 pages.

This is a list of reported incidents of humans shooting and/or killing Bigfoots from 1829 to the present day.

This post needs a bit of updating with the Justin Smeja’s Sierra Kills and Rick Dyer’s Shooting Bigfoot incident.

Obviously, none of these claims below have panned out yet, but it is pretty amazing that for a creature that supposedly does not exist, we have so many excellent shooting stories, often from otherwise credible, ordinary, day to day folks who have never been known to make things up or lie.

This is a good research piece, and nonprofit websites are free to repost it. Feel free to comment if you any new cases or if you can provide more information to any of the cases below.

Bigfoots Shot At, Shot and Wounded, or Shot Dead by Humans

Unknown date: Klakas Inlet, Southern Alaska. In far southern Alaska on Prince of Wales Island, a Bigfoot was shot and buried at the mouth of a stream on the north side of the inlet. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Unknown date: Sonora, Mexico. Rich Grumley reported that a hunter shot and killed a Bigfoot, then buried it.

Unknown date: Desoto, Louisiana. A man’s dogs were fighting with a Bigfoot. The man then shot the Bigfoot. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Unknown date: Lewis, Washington. A sheriff shot at a Bigfoot in a pasture. The Bigfoot tore down a fence while escaping. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Unknown date: Skamania, Washington. A Bigfoot threw a rock at a truck. The truck driver then fired on the Bigfoot. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Date unknown, modern era: Location unknown. A wealthy hunter shot and killed a Bigfoot, then paid a taxidermist to stuff it, and the specimen was put on display in a ritzy country club on the East Coast. Reported by Ray Crowe.

Unknown date, modern era: Yankton, Oregon. Near the Columbia River north of Portland, a hunter shot a Bigfoot four times between the eyes and killed it. It rolled off the road. The man came back 24 hours later, and the body was gone. There was a set of three tracks, possibly a family group – a male, a female and a juvenile. Reported by Ray Crowe.

Unknown date, modern era, Amboy, Washington. Near Mt. St. Helens, a hunter reported that he shot and killed a male Bigfoot on an old logging road. Upon hearing that there was a $10,000 fine for killing a Bigfoot, the hunter hung up the phone on the researcher. Reported by Ray Crowe.

Unknown date, modern era: Pound, Virginia. Someone shot at a Bigfoot roaring outside his home at midnight with a 12 gauge shotgun. The shot missed. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

June 20, 1829: Okefenokee Swamp, Georgia. A team of hunters set out in an attempt to track down and kill a Bigfoot in the swamp. After tracking for two weeks, they were set upon by the Bigfoot one night. The men opened up with all their guns, but it seemed useless. Five of the men were killed by the Bigfoot, who then tore all of the men’s heads off. The surviving men opened up on the Bigfoot, finally killing it. Reported by Augusta Chronicle, March 12, 2000 – “Hunters Told of Swamp Creature’s Attack.”

Mid to late 1800’s: Bexar, Texas. The Legend of the Converse Werewolf. A rancher sent his 15-year-old son into the woods to hunt and told him not to come back until he had killed a deer. The boy never came back. People went searching for him and found the boy’s dead and mutilated body. A Bigfoot was standing over it. The rancher fired a shot and chased the Bigfoot into the woods. The others in the search party reported that the rancher never made it back alive, apparently also killed by the Bigfoot. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

1856: Ohio or West Virginia. Possible Bigfoot skeleton found with bullet holes in its skull. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Late 1800’s: Winston, Alabama. A moonshiner shot a Bigfoot that was following his mule wagon.

October 1879: Williamstown, Vermont. Two men hunting in the woods were surprised by a Bigfoot. One shot and wounded it. The Bigfoot chased them out of the woods. Reported by the New York Times, October 18, 1879.

1882: Inyo, California. A man, Jack Ferral, shot a Bigfoot five times. Reported by the Inyo Register, March 19, 1981 referring to articles in the Bishop Creek Times of 1882, noted in the Bigfoot Co-op April 1981, p.2.

July 4, 1884: East of Yale, British Columbia. In the Fraser River Region, railroad men working on a British Colombia Express Company’s train stopped their train when they saw what appeared to be someone sleeping near the tracks. After they stopped the train, a juvenile male Bigfoot woke up, barked and started to climb up a steep bluff. The workers decided to chase him. One got up above him on the slope and dropped a rock on the Bigfoot. It disoriented the Bigfoot enough that the men were able to get a rope around him, capture him and put him on the train.

They named the Bigfoot “Jacko.” Jacko had bruises on his head and upper body, and they assumed that he had gotten too near the edge of the bluff and had fallen over and landed, stunned, near the tracks. Jacko had been seen in the area where he was captured recently, but residents thought he was either a bear or a stray Indian dog.

Jacko was 4’7, weighed 127 pounds, and was covered with shiny black hair. He was extremely strong. Jacko did not communicate other than making half-bark, half-growl sounds. He was fed berries and milk.

There are conflicting reports on what happened to Jacko. Some reports said he was taken into Yale where a man made a pet of him. Other reports said that Jacko escaped from the train before it got to Yale.

There are other reports that say this whole matter was a hoax, but I believe it was true. For one thing, John Green received a letter from Adele Bastin, whose mother remembered that people continued to talk of Jacko long afterward. Reported by The Colonist of Victoria, British Colombia, July 4, 1884. The best analysis of this incident was by Myra Shackley.

There are reports that soon after Jacko was captured, a Bigfoot matching Jacko’s description was shot and killed in the same general area by a group of men, so the story about him escaping from the train before it got to Yale may be the correct version. Famous story.

June 1885: Watauga County, North Carolina. Northwest of Seven Devils, NC. Roughly 15 to 20 miles northwest of Grandfather Mountain. A 13-year-old Cherokee girl went to gather food along a creek. Then she heard gunshots. She hid under a bush because at that time it was dangerous for an Indian girl to be caught in the woods by a White man. She heard someone running down the hill.

As something ran past her, to her surprise she noted that it was a male Bigfoot. It seemed to have been wounded by the shots. The Bigfoot went down to the creek and buried itself in a pile of leaves, sticks, dirt and debris to the point where it was invisible. Then she heard the sounds of more people coming. She thought it was the White men, so she left. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

1890: Brookings, Oregon. Two men shot and wounded a Bigfoot. The Bigfoot retaliated, slamming the men against trees and tearing them apart, killing them. Reported by the Bigfoot Track Record.

1900: Prince of Wales Island, Alaska. The Eskimo came out of the forest onto the beach and was met face to face with a Bigfoot. He opened fire and killed the Bigfoot. He and two other Eskimos then buried the Bigfoot on the beach. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1904: Lane, Oregon. On two separate occasions, men shot at Bigfoots that were prowling around their cabins. The shots missed the Bigfoots on both occasions. In one case, the Bigfoot threw a rock at the man who shot at it. Reported by the Bigfoot Encounters website.

1905: Gardner Canal, British Columbia. On the coast of central British Columbia, a Bigfoot was shot and killed, but there are no further details. Reported on the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club website.

Summer 1917: Cass, Texas. A family coming home at night in a mule driven wagon was alerted by a screaming, advancing Bigfoot. The man shot at the Bigfoot, missed, and it ran away. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

1917: Nowata, Oklahoma. Men shot at a Bigfoot that had gotten trapped inside of a barn. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

1920’s: Walla Walla, Washington. Hunters shot and wounded a Bigfoot, but the Bigfoot ran away. A second Bigfoot appeared and threw boulders at the hunters. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1920’s-1930’s: Lake, California. A man hunted red-haired wildmen that lived in caves above a lake. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1921: Terrebonne, Louisiana. Hunters killed a Bigfoot and dumped the body in an old well. Later a skeleton was found and taken to Tulane University, where it disappeared. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1924: Deschutes, Oregon. A prospector shot a Bigfoot five times, but the Bigfoot was only wounded and ran away. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1924: Ape Canyon, Washington. Near Mt. St. Helens, miners Marion Smith, Roy Smith, Fred Beck, Gabe Lefever and John Peterson, shot and killed a Bigfoot, which fell off a cliff into a river below. Other Bigfoots retaliated and bombarded their cabin with rocks. Famous story. Reported by Fred Beck.

1928: South Bentinck Arm, near Bella Coola, British Columbia. On the coast of central British Columbia, George Talleo shot and killed a Bigfoot. He left the scene and did not come back. Reported by the Sasquatch-BC website.

1930: Kwaltwa Kitasu Bay, Swindle Island, British Columbia. Tom Brown saw a Bigfoot in the shallows at night. He shot at it, and it screamed. He went back the next day, but there was no body. Reported by John Green.

After 1937: Green River, Washington. In the Cascades east of Tacoma, a hunter saw a bear grubbing in a log and shot and killed it. It turned out he had killed a Bigfoot. Feeling that he had shot a “hairy man” (a human being), he buried it under a pile of rocks and never told anyone until he confessed on his deathbed. Reported by Datus Perry.

1940’s: Yukon Territory. An man saw a 10-foot Bigfoot and shot at it with a 30.06. Reported by John Green.

1940: Southeastern Missouri. Jared Sparks killed an apparent Bigfoot (he described it only as “like a gorilla”) that had been killing horses and cattle by tearing them apart. Disposition of body unknown. Reported by John Keel in Strange Creatures.

Fall 1941: Near Basket Lake, Manitoba. A 17-year-old boy, Paul Shebaga, was hunting out of season shot and killed a Bigfoot that he thought was a moose. He left it in the forest because he thought it was human and because he was hunting out of season. He went back sometime later, and the body was gone. Shebaga has since died. Researchers who interviewed him found him a highly credible witness. Reported on BFRO site.

1943: Georgia, near the South Carolina border. A Bigfoot was shot and killed by shotguns, hit with 60 bullets after it was tracked by a group of men because it was killing sheep and calves by tearing off their legs. The reddish-brown Bigfoot was buried on the outskirts of town. Reported by Rich Grumley. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Winter 1943: Clarke, Alabama. Three men spotlighting deer in river bottomlands shot a Bigfoot. The Bigfoot may have died, but they did not stay around long enough to find out. Reported by the Alabama Bigfoot website.

1946: Lebanon, Pennsylvania. A man shot a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

June 18, 1948: Franklin County, North Carolina. A Black family hunting in the woods at night shot and wounded a Bigfoot. It screamed, and they all ran away.

1949: Clackamas, Oregon. A man shot a Bigfoot that was eating a turkey. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Fall 1949: Coos, Oregon. A man shot a Bigfoot chewing on a live cow. The Bigfoot was wounded and ran off. Reported by the BFRO site.

Early 1950: Near Boston, Georgia. A man shot at a Bigfoot when his dogs cornered it on a porch. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

1950: Indiana, Pennsylvania. People shot a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

1951: Thomas, Georgia. A man shot at a Bigfoot next to a porch. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

1953: Alder Creek Canyon, Sandy, Oregon. East of Portland, a hunter shot and killed a Bigfoot, then buried the body. Reported by Peter Byrne.

1956: Shasta, California. A man may have shot a Bigfoot. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1957: Near Jackson, Tennessee. James M. Meacham shot repeatedly at a Bigfoot with no effect. Ivan T. Sanderson, Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come to Life, pp.122-3.

Late 1950’s: Cambridge Springs, Pennsylvania. A group of young people were sitting in a house waiting for a Bigfoot to come back, as it had been banging on houses earlier in the night. The Bigfoot approached the house and ran away when people shot at it. Reported by Grover Krantz.

1957: Deschutes, Oregon. A hunter shot and killed a deer. A Bigfoot then ran out, grabbed the deer and started to run away with it. The hunter then shot the Bigfoot, but the Bigfoot was only wounded and made off with the deer. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1958-1960: Overton County, Tennessee. A Bigfoot stealing chickens was shot dead by the owner of the chickens. They drove it around the area to see if anyone could identify it. Disposition of body unknown. Reported by Mary Green.

1959: Knoxville, Tennessee. A Bigfoot was shot at when it came near a man’s home. Reported by Mary Green, Fifty Years with Bigfoot: Tennessee Chronicles of Coexistence, p. 192.

1959: Carroll County, Maryland. A police officer shot at a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

October 1959: South of Tenmile, Oregon. A black Bigfoot chased two boys up a hill and across a ridge. One of the boys shot the Bigfoot seven times with a 30.06 shotgun. The Bigfoot slumped down but then picked itself up and kept coming after them. Reported by John Green, The Sasquatch File, p. 19.

Summer 1960’s: Morris, Texas. Two girls sitting on a bed talking at night looked outside and saw a Bigfoot in their yard. They called their grandfather. He came with a rifle and shot the Bigfoot. The Bigfoot roared and ran away. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

Winter 1960’s: Wildwood, California. A Bigfoot was spotted peeking in the windows at a dance held at the inn. A man ran outside to grab his 30.06 rifle from his pickup truck. He shot the Bigfoot, and it screamed and ran off. Men tracked it to the Trinity River where they lost the trail. Reported by Ben Foster, Williamsburg, Indiana.

1960’s: Douglas, Oregon: In the Cascades west of the Umpqua National Forest, a farmer shot a Bigfoot and then somehow managed to take it back to his house, where he left it outside. Other Bigfoots then came that night and retrieved the body. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Winter 1960: Watson Bay, Roderick Island, British Columbia. Timothy Robinson and Samson Duncan shot at a small Bigfoot that they saw on a snow-covered beach. They found blood on the snow where it had been but were too afraid to follow the blood trail. Reported by John Green and Bob Titmus.

October 1963: Smith, Texas. Men hunting coons in the woods at night were alerted when dogs treed an animal. A beagle came running back, badly wounded with its guts hanging out of its body. The men came to the tree, and there was a Bigfoot in the tree with hounds circling around the trunk. The Bigfoot was howling and shaking the tree. One of the men shot the Bigfoot twice with a .22, but the Bigfoot only screamed even louder. The men all became frightened and ran away. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

1965: Near Fouke, Arkansas. James Lynn Crabtree, age 14, shot a Bigfoot three times in the face, but the Bigfoot did not die. Reported by BFRO site.

1965: Yakima, Washington. A boy shot a Bigfoot but only wounded it. The Bigfoot then tore the boy apart, crushing his ribcage, and killing him. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1965: Kitimat, British Columbia. On the coast of central British Columbia, a Kitimat man shot and killed a Bigfoot near town. He was trying to drag the body away when other Bigfoots came out and tried to attack him. He barely escaped to his canoe. Reported on the British Colombia Scientific Cryptozoology Club website.

October 1965: Nisqually Hill, near Olympia, Washington. While driving at night, Russell Gels and Dennis Lensgrave saw a white 7-foot Bigfoot in their car headlights and shot at it. The Bigfoot ran away. Reported by The Sunday Olympian, October 24, 1965.

1966: Erie, Pennsylvania. Men shot at a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

January 1966: Wildwood, California. Bob Kelley and Archie Bradshaw saw a Bigfoot looking in their window. One of the men fired his shotgun at the Bigfoot and thought he hit it. The Bigfoot’s tracks were followed down to Hayfork Creek. Reported by the Redding, California Record Searchlight.

May 1966: Spillimacheen, British Columbia. A man watching two Bigfoots have sex while another watched shot at the Bigfoot that was watching the other two but missed. The man was hunting grizzly bears at the time. Reported by the BFRO site.

Summer 1966: Near Richland, Washington: Several boys – Greg Pointer, Roger True, Tom Thompson, Carl and Jim Franklin, John McKnight, Alvin Anderson, Selby Green, Roger Howard, Bob McDonald, and Ron Blackburn – saw an 8-foot whitish-gray Bigfoot and shot at it several times with no effect. Reported by John Green, Roger Patterson and Rene Dahinden.

October 1966: Near Yakima, Washington. Mike Corey’s dog was attacked by a Bigfoot. He shot at it as it ran away. Corey’s dog was later mysteriously killed. Reported by Roger Patterson.

Late 1960’s: Chuska Mountains, New Mexico. Two Navajo shepherds shot a Bigfoot. It ran wounded into a canyon. Two other Bigfoots helped it. Reported by a Mrs. Chessman in John Green, The Sasquatch File.

February 1967: Hartley Bay, British Columbia: Two men saw a Bigfoot on an island and shot it. It screamed and ran away. Reported by Bob Titmus.

May 1967: Wasco, Oregon. Dennis Taylor and his friends often watched Bigfoots crossing the highway near the cemetery while going from the hills to the river, usually around 11:30 PM. Several times they shot at them with various weapons. Once one was hit at close range with buckshot and it fell down. It leaped up and crashed through a barbed wire fence, taking out three fence posts. Reported on the Oregon Bigfoot website.

Fall 1967: Winlock, Washington: A grayish Bigfoot had been seen in a necking spot for high school students. Some high school boys went out with a 30.30 and took a shot at it, but it ran away. Reported by the BFRO site.

Fall 1967: By Chehalis River near Chehalis, Washington. Billy Brown was hunting when he saw an 8-foot tall white Bigfoot. He shot it in the head, and it screamed and ran into a swamp. Reported by Roger Patterson.

December 1967: Teton National Forest near Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Two college students from Marshalltown, Iowa – Lyle Bingaman and Mike Burton – shot and killed a Bigfoot, thinking it was a bear. They were terrified that they had killed a human being and that they would be prosecuted for murder, so they left it where it fell. Reported by Peter Byrne.

1968: North of Carson, Wyoming. Three men were hired by a rancher to kill a Bigfoot that was killing his cows and sheep by tearing off their legs. Afterward, the body was picked up by a government helicopter and taken to a research facility in Alamogordo, New Mexico to be autopsied and studied. Reported by Ray Crowe. Government coverup.

May 1968: Delphi, Indiana: A man and a woman were finishing their breakfast when a 5-foot tall “monkey” (Bigfoot) approached their residence. When the creature was 20 feet away from the door, the man gut-shot the Bigfoot in the stomach. It screamed, held its stomach and ran away. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

Autumn 1968: Point Isabel, Ohio. Larry Abbott, his father, and Arnold Hubbard saw a 10-foot tall white Bigfoot. The men fired on it. It vanished in a white mist. Reported by Leonard H. Stringfield, Situation Red – The UFO Siege!, pp. 65-6.

After 1968: Alabama. The same man involved in the Carson, Wyoming case above shot another Bigfoot later on. This time the government found out about it and was angry at the man for killing another Bigfoot. Reported by Ray Crowe. Government coverup.

New Years Day, 1969: Franklin, Missouri. Arbie Boyer pumped nine bullets from a .22 rifle into a Bigfoot 20 feet away from his home. It turned and slowly walked away. Then man then shot it with a 45/70 rifle and hit it in the shoulder. Reported on the Bigfoot Encounters website.

1969: San Juan, New Mexico. Shepherds shot a Bigfoot and wounded it. Two other Bigfoots then came to help the wounded Bigfoot away. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1969: Whiteface Reservoir, Minnesota. A hunter shot and killed a Bigfoot, then put the body on ice and displayed it for awhile before replacing it with a plastic replica. The famous Minnesota Iceman story.

Late February 1969: Khutze Inlet, British Columbia. Ronnie Nyce and two other men shot a Bigfoot that ran screaming into the woods. Reported by Bob Titmus.

November 1969: Burlington, New Jersey. A man shot at a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

November 1969. Calaveras Big Trees State Park, California. Mike Scott shot a Bigfoot three times from 30 feet away, wounding it. Reported by Slate and Berry, Bigfoot.

1969-1972: Homosassa Springs, Florida. A group of teenagers were hanging out at a rock quarry at night when one of them shot and wounded a Bigfoot. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

After 1969: Clark, Washington. Neat Mt. St. Helens, a man shot and killed a Bigfoot, then tried to sell it but stopped when he thought it might have been illegal to kill the Bigfoot. No further details. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Early 1970’s: Chelan, Washington. Men shot at a Bigfoot holding and biting a 150-pound pig. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Early to mid 1970’s: Burr Ferry, Louisiana. A coon hunter shot a Bigfoot, and it screamed loudly. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

Summer 1970’s: Evangelina, Texas. Fishermen camping on the Neches River heard noises down by their bait box and boat and smelled a bad smell. The grandfather fired in the direction of the commotion and then a terrible scream was heard. Nothing was found the next morning except footprints. The grandfather said he had shot a Bigfoot. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy..

1970’s: Sylacauga, Alabama, on the slope of Marble Mountain. After a series of incidents involving Bigfoots on a small farm, sheriffs were called out. A sheriff’s deputy saw a Bigfoot standing near the house. Although he did not know what it was, he emptied his revolver at it. It ran off. The deputy then told the family that he would not come out to the house at night alone again. Reported by the Alabama Bigfoot site. Government coverup.

1970’s: Gray’s Harbor, Washington. A man shot at a Bigfoot. Four Bigfoots then attacked his pickup truck. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1970’s: Oregon. A man unloaded four rounds from a 30.06 into a Bigfoot, but the shots had little effect on the Bigfoot. Reported by Oregon Archives, University of Oregon.

1970’s: Idaho. Two men fired their rifles, one .22 and one .44 magnum, at a Bigfoot, but the shots had little effect.

1970: Spokane, Washington. A hunter shot and killed a Bigfoot. Reported by Grover Krantz.

1971-1976: Citrus, Florida. Men shot Bigfoots. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

1972: Citrus, Florida. A man shot a Bigfoot. Possibly the same as the previous incident. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

June 1972: Rusk, Texas. A Bigfoot watched campers at a campfire for about four minutes. The men then opened fire on the Bigfoot, and it ran away. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

1973: Fayette, Pennsylvania. A man shot twice at a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

June 1973: Maryland. A man shot at a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

June 1973: Collowash River, Oregon. A man was sitting by a campfire when a Bigfoot walked by. He shot it, and it ran screaming into the woods. Reported by John Green.

July 1973: Greensburg, Pennsylvania. A doctor fired several shots at a Bigfoot that tried to enter his trailer home, but it walked away. Reported by Pat Morrison, UFOs and Bigfoot Creatures: An Adventure into the Unexplained, p.29.

Fall 1973: Albany, Kentucky. Many people saw a dark 6-foot tall Bigfoot. It killed some livestock in the area. People shot at it. Farmer Charlie Stern finally wounded it, and the sightings stopped. Reported by Loren Coleman.

October 1973: Pennsylvania. Witnesses saw a slow-moving, bright red UFO land in a farm pasture. Men went to the top of the pasture to investigate and they saw two Bigfoots creeping along a barbed wire fence about 75 feet away from the UFO. They were making strange whining sounds and and another sound like a baby crying. One man fired a tracer bullet at the Bigfoots. One of the Bigfoots reached up in the air as if trying to grab the tracer bullet. The man tried shooting at the Bigfoot with live ammunition, but the bullets had no effect. Reported by Stan Gordon on Coast to Coast radio show, November 28, 2014.

November 1973. Near Uniontown, Pennsylvania. A man saw a Bigfoot at night and shot at it with his revolver. It ran away. Later he shot it with a rifle. It screamed and ran away. Reported by Stan Gordon, “Pennsylvania Creatures Busy,” Shylooh: 77, pp. 15-16.

1974: Near Stone State Park, Sioux City, Iowa. A man shot and wounded a Bigfoot with a deer rifle. Reported by the Des Moines, Iowa Sunday Register, November 12, 1978.

1974: South Mountain, North Carolina. A 7-foot Bigfoot stood up by a campfire. A man fired at it, and it went away. Reported by John Green.

January 1974: Lee, Florida. A Bigfoot killed a pony. A man then shot at the Bigfoot in response. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

January 9, 1974: Palm Beach, Florida. Patrolman Robert Hollemeyal shot a 7-8-foot tall, dark Bigfoot. The Bigfoot was only wounded and ran off at 20 mph. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

February 1974: Fayette, Pennsylvania. Men shot multiple Bigfoots. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

February 6, 1974: Uniontown, Pennsylvania. A Bigfoot was shot at and then disappeared. A UFO was seen nearby. Stan Gordon, “Pennsylvania Creatures Busy,” Shylooh: 77, pp.14-17

May 1974: North Carolina. A man shot a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

July-Aug. 1974: Watova, near Nowata, Oklahoma. A Bigfoot was seen many times around the property of Mrs. Margie Lee. She called sheriffs, and Deputies Gilbert Gilmore and Buck Field came out. The deputies shot the Bigfoot, but it was uninjured. Reported by Clark and Loren Coleman, Creatures of the Outer Edge.

Mid-October 1974: Near Holly Springs, Arkansas. A Bigfoot was sighted several times. A man shot it, but it lived. Reported by the Arkansas Gazette, November 2, 1974.

November 1974: Corkscrew Swamp, Collier County, Florida. A group of men hunting at night were being stalked by a Bigfoot. They opened fire on it with their shotguns. It screamed and ran off. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

December 1974: Bootlegger Trail, Montana. A coyote hunter shot three times at a 7-8-foot tall Bigfoot with a 30.06. The Bigfoot kept coming at him, and he jumped into a car and escaped. Roberta Donovan and Keith Wolverton, Mystery Stalks the Prairie, p.90.

February 1975: Alachua, Florida. A man’s car hit a Bigfoot on the road and knocked it down. The man got out of his car and shot the Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

February 2, 1975: Cape Coral, Florida. Richard Davis shot a Bigfoot, then later repented. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

September 1975: Nowata, Kansas. Men shot at a Bigfoot. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

September and October 1975: Nolde, Oklahoma. Kenneth Tosh, Marion Parret, Clifford Bentson, and Gerald Bullock tried to shoot and kill a Bigfoot on repeated occasions over a 2-month period. They were unsuccessful; the Bigfoot survived. Reported by by Jerome Clark and Hayden Hewes.

Early October 1975: Lummi Indian Reserve near Bellingham, Washington. The captain of the police force shot at a 6-foot+ tall Bigfoot. Reported by John Green, Sasquatch: The Apes Among Us, p. 17.

October 1975: Fayette, Pennsylvania. A man shot at two Bigfoots. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

October 1975: Washington, Pennsylvania. Men shot at a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

December 26, 1975: Vaughn, Montana. Two teenage girls shot over the head of a Bigfoot. The Bigfoot fell to the ground and was helped into the brush by other Bigfoots. Reported by Roberta Donovan and Keith Wolverton, Mystery Stalks the Prairie, pp.87-9.

1976-1977: Linn, Oregon. A man met two young women in a casino in Las Vegas who told him a fascinating story. Shortly before, they had wanted to go hiking in Oregon so they hired a guide to take them to the forest.

At one point, they came across a Bigfoot, and the guide raised his rifle and fired on it several times, seemingly to no effect. The Bigfoot then tore the man apart, killing him. The man’s body was evacuated via a heavily-armed US Forest Service helicopter. The Forest Service grilled the females for seven hours, trying to convince them that the man had been killed by a bear, but they stuck to their story. The ranger then told the women to never come back to the forest again. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record. Government coverup.

1976: Kern, California. A man shot a Bigfoot ten times in the chest with a .22 rifle. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

January 1976: Elm Creek, Texas Panhandle. Three men shot and killed two Bigfoots. The first one charged them, so they shot it. Then another one charged them, so they shot it too. They dropped both of them, a male and a female. They buried the bodies down by a nearby creek. They were afraid they would be prosecuted for homicide so they kept quiet about the killing. However, they recently told their story anonymously on a radio show.

April 26, 1976: Near Flintville, Tennessee. A Bigfoot tried to abduct 4 -year-old Gary Robinson. A six-man posse made up of Deputy Sheriff Homer Davis, Melvin Robertson, Stan Moore, and three others chased the Bigfoot and shot at it. Reported by Jim Brandon, Weird America, p.205

June 1976: Baltimore, Maryland. As unlikely as it sounds, a Bigfoot was reported here in May 1976. Police were called, and K-9’s initially refused to track it. Finally, the dogs tracked it to an interstate tunnel. A police officer then saw it run under the interstate. The next month, US army personnel were called out to deal with the Bigfoot once again. Reports indicate that soldiers captured or killed the Bigfoot. No further information. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast. Government coverup.

July 1976: Citrus, Florida. A man shot a Bigfoot. Possibly the same case as another Citrus case reported above. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

July 1976: Gaston, North Carolina: A man shot a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

January 23, 1977: Blewett Pass near Ingalic Creek, Washington. David Kernoul and Dean DeWees saw a Bigfoot near a chicken pen and shot at it. Reported by Wenatchee, Washington World, January 26, 1977.

April 13, 1977: Rising Sun, Indiana. Tom and Connie Courter saw a Bigfoot on a hill late at night. Tom fired 12 shots at it, but there was no trace of the Bigfoot the next day. Reported by the Cincinnati Post, April 20, 1977.

May 12-13, 1977: Wantage Township, New Jersey. A Bigfoot visited the Sites family farm and killed some of their rabbits. It came back later, and the family shot at it. Reported by S.N. Mayne, “The Wantage Event,” Pursuit: 10-4, pp. 124-7.

Summer 1977: Cheshire, New Hampshire. Hunters may have shot at a tan-gray Bigfoot. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

July 1977: Jones, Texas. A Bigfoot threw a rock at a human and hit him. In response, the human shot at the Bigfoot. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

August 1977: Stilwell, Oklahoma. Brian Jones and two boys with the last name Ritchie saw a Bigfoot looking in the window. Jones went outside, and an 8-foot tall Bigfoot picked him up but dropped him when others appeared. The boys fired at the Bigfoot, which responded by throwing rocks. Reported by the Bigfoot Research Society.

August 15, 1977: Sussex County, New Jersey. A man shot a Bigfoot in the front yard of a house with a .22 pistol. The Bigfoot screamed and ran off. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

August 20, 1977: Belt Creek Canyon, Montana. Staff Sergeant Fred Wilson and two others saw a 15 1/2 foot tan Bigfoot standing in some bushes. They fired at it but drove off in their car when it ran towards them. Great Falls Tribune, August 20, 1977.

October 1977: Broward, Florida. A Bigfoot tore at a man’s shirt. In response, the man shot the Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

October 1977: Westmoreland, Pennsylvania. A man shot a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

October 1-2, 1977. Near Bend, Oregon. Gary Benson and Ronald Kershey said a 7-foot tall black-haired Bigfoot with silver shoulders attacked them. They fired four shots at it. Reported by INFO Journal: 6-4, p.15.

November 1977: Marion, Florida. A man shot a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

Mid-November 1977: Ocala National Forest, Florida. A hunter fired six times at an 8-foot tall Bigfoot weighing 800 pounds. Ocala Star-Banner, November 19, 1977.

1978: Fort Pierce, Washington. Edwin Godoy, a soldier on the base, shot a Bigfoot in the chest. The Bigfoot moaned and ran off. Reported by the Bigfoot Encounters website.

1978: Fayette, Pennsylvania. A Bigfoot smashed a windshield of a car. A man then fired on the Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

April 1978: Pennsylvania. A man shot a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

April 1978: Danbury, Connecticut. A boy called deputies out to a farm where he saw a Bigfoot. Deputies came out, saw the Bigfoot and shot at it. Reported by the Bigfoot Encounters website.

June 26, 1978: Crossett, Arkansas. Mike Lofton, age 10, was feeding his dog when his dog began to tremble. Mike then saw a Bigfoot approaching the house from the woods. He ran and got his .22, shot at the Bigfoot, and the Bigfoot ran off. Reported by the BFRO site.

August 1978: Near Owensboro, Kentucky. Larry Nelson, his brother and two friends shot three .45 bullets into a Bigfoot’s chest. It ran off into the woods unhurt. Reported by Keith Lawrence, “The Fairview Horror,” UFO Report, May 1979, p.30.

Mid-August 1978: Near Owensboro, Kentucky. Several men cornered a Bigfoot beside a pond and shot it at a distance of 10 feet with a pistol. It ran into the woods, leaving no blood trail. Reported by Keith Lawrence, “The Fairview Horror,” UFO Report, May 1979, p.70.

August 14, 1978: Oceana, West Virginia. Policeman Bill Pruitt shot at a Bigfoot. Reported by the Charleston, West Virginia Gazette, August 15, 1978.

August 16, 1978: Fowlerville, Michigan. Gary Browning shot at a Bigfoot that ran out of the underbrush. Reported by the Lansing, Michigan State Journal, August 18, 1978.

October 1978: Colombia, Oregon. Men shot a Bigfoot between the eyes on a road. The Bigfoot rolled off the road, and the men took off. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

April 30, 1979: Dunn Lake, near Barriere, British Colombia. Tim Meissner was fishing with friends when he saw a Bigfoot across the lake. He came back later with a gun and shot at it. Reported by the Vancouver, WA, The Columbian, May 6, 7 and 9, 1979.

Late Spring 1979: South Mountain, North Carolina. A fisherman saw a Bigfoot in the underbrush. He came back later with a gun and shot at it. Reported by Robert L. Williams, “‘Knobby’, North Carolina’s Bigfoot,” UFO Report, September 1979, p.27.

October 1979: Oregon. A Bigfoot put a hand on a boy’s shoulder. The boy ran to the men he was with, who got guns and fired into the woods at the Bigfoot. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Mid-October 1979: Knox County, Indiana. Two boys who were predator hunting at night with rabbit-in-distress calls called in a Bigfoot. They shot at it, and it ran off. Reported by the Bigfoot Encounters website.

1980: Vinton, Ohio. A man shot a Bigfoot. Bigfoots threw boulders at trailers in response. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

September 1981: Cleveland, North Carolina. A man shot a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

October 10, 1980: Fleming County, Kentucky. A Bigfoot raided J. L. Turney’s freezer. Turney chased it and shot at it. Reported by the Flemingsburg, Kentucky, Times-Democrat, October 15, 1980.

November 1981: Taylor County, Florida. A Bigfoot approached a camp of hunters in the middle of the night. A man fired a gun at it several times to make it go away. It crashed off into the woods. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

1982: Oglethorpe, Georgia. A woman went outside to tend to the dogs and was surprised to see a Bigfoot there. She ran back in the house yelling for her husband. The man was in the bathroom and shot through the bathroom wall at the Bigfoot, hitting it. The Bigfoot ran off. Reported by the Bigfoot Encounters website.

1982: Colombia, Oregon. A fisherman shot a Bigfoot. He followed the blood trail until he lost it. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Spring 1982: Maryland. A man shot a Bigfoot. Reported by Rick Berry, Bigfoot on the East Coast.

Fall 1982: Cherokee, Texas. A man shot a Bigfoot with a shotgun three times and with a .357 revolver five times. The Bigfoot apparently survived. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

Fall 1983: Morgan-Monroe State Forest, Indiana. A college student was having a drinking party at his house with two friends. Early in the morning, he heard a noise and went outside. He saw what appeared to be a Bigfoot. He went back into his house, got an automatic weapon and shot at it. It ran off into the woods. Reported by the Bigfoot Encounters website.

October 13, 1983: Wilson, Oklahoma. A Bigfoot, apparently mad at a man for some reason, charged into a man’s house and tore the house apart. The man grabbed his shotgun and shot the Bigfoot. Then the man and his family chased the Bigfoot out of the house and barricaded the doors. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

November 1983: Tillamook, Oregon. A hunter tried to shoot a Bigfoot, but the gun was empty. The Bigfoot then growled at the hunter. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

Mid 1980’s: Johnson County, Arkansas. A Bigfoot kept taking a farmer’s animals – chickens, pigs and calves – but by fall, he would only take no more than half the farmer’s animals, leaving the other half for the farmer. The farmer got fed up and one night lay in wait for it with a shotgun. When the Bigfoot appeared, the farmer shot it with a shotgun, wounding it. The Bigfoot ran away and never bothered the farm again. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

Mid 1980’s: Johnson County, Arkansas. Two men were poaching deer with spotlights at night when they spotlighted a Bigfoot. One man shot at it, wounding it. The next day they found blood from the Bigfoot. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

October 15, 1984. Jefferson, Texas. A man was squirrel hunting in Pine Islands Bayou in the Big Thicket National Preserve when his dog started barking. He then noticed a Bigfoot wading in the bayou. His dog charged the Bigfoot, and the Bigfoot threw a log at the dog. The man then fired on the Bigfoot, but he did not know if he hit it or not. The Bigfoot ran off into the underbrush. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

1985: Pierce, Washington. A Bigfoot charged at men. Men then fired on the Bigfoot, then got in their car and drove away. The Bigfoot chased the pickup truck as it was driving away. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1985: Ripley, Oklahoma. A group of people out partying by the Cimarron River saw a Bigfoot. The Bigfoot then crashed off into the brush. Men left to go get guns and came back to shoot at the Bigfoot. They saw it and shot it. It screamed and ran away. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

October 20, 1986: Los Angeles County, California. Father and son deer hunters hunting in the San Gabriel Mountains noticed something rustling the brush very forcefully. They fired a few shots at it, then it came out of the brush and stood in front of them. It was a Bigfoot. They both ran away. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

1987: Pacific, Washington. A Bigfoot chased rafters along a river for seven miles, throwing rocks at them. A man fired into the brush at the Bigfoot. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

May 1987: Maricopa County, Arizona. A group of men were fishing for catfish. They fell asleep. At 2 AM, one awoke and noticed a female Bigfoot standing only 10 feet away. This situation went on for a while, as the one man in the group who had a gun pointed it at the Bigfoot to hold her at bay. At one point, she charged the men, and he opened fire at close range with a single shot shotgun. The Bigfoot grabbed her chest and ran across the lake to the other side, crashing through the brush. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

1988: Atoka, Oklahoma. A hunter shot a Bigfoot with a 30.06 rifle, but the Bigfoot was only wounded and ran away. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

1990’s: Nowata, Oklahoma. A farmer shot at a Bigfoot. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

1990: Clark, Washington. A woman shot at a Bigfoot in the brush near her chicken coop. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

May 1990: Cooke County, Texas. Men shot a Bigfoot in the chest with a shotgun while on a camping trip. Reported by the BFRO website.

September 1990: Glenn, California. A Bigfoot that had been shot at by other men ran past a group of men. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

1991: Indiana. Two young men were hunting at night when they saw a Bigfoot. They freaked out and opened fire on it with a shotgun. It screamed and chased them half a mile through the woods. Reported by Mary Green.

August 1992: Between Westal and Crosstal, Tennessee. A man and his sons were out hunting squirrels in the woods. At 3:30 AM, the father woke up when a Bigfoot was trying to pull him out of the back of his truck. He thought it was one of his sons, so he yelled at them to stop. After a bit, he realized it was a Bigfoot. He shot and wounded it, and it walked away. Later, it came back and walked around the camp breaking branches and menacing the campers. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

August 1992: Iowa. Two fishermen camping beside a river saw a Bigfoot walking along the bank on the opposite side early in the morning. One man fired three shots at it with his .22, and it ran over the top of the bank and disappeared. Reported by The Sasquatch Report Issue #84 March 1997.

May 1993: Clark, Washington. Deer poachers shot a Bigfoot and wounded it. Blood was found, but the Bigfoot escaped. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

December 1994: Deschutes, Oregon. Hunters shot and wounded a Bigfoot in the leg and followed the blood trail for several miles. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

November 1996: Coos, Oregon. Spotlight hunters took long shots at a spotlighted Bigfoot. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

May 1997: Mendocino, California. A man shot at a female and some juvenile Bigfoots. Another Bigfoot then attacked the man and broke some of his bones. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

September 1997: Tillamook County, Oregon. A hiker shot at a Bigfoot standing on a rock outcropping early in the morning. The Bigfoot ran off.

July 1997: Jones, Texas. A Bigfoot threw a rock at a man, hitting him. The man then shot back at the Bigfoot but missed. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

October 1998: Madison, Virginia. A man was camping in the woods when he saw a Bigfoot up on a ridge only 80 feet away when he woke up in the morning. He emptied his revolver at it, and it ran off. Reported by the Bigfoot Encounters website.

November 1998: Longview, Texas. Two men were out squirrel hunting in the woods when they came across a Bigfoot. It ran across the trail and took off into the woods. The men decided to leave the area quickly, but five minutes later, they smelled a bad smell. They looked around, and 20-30 feet to the side in the woods was the Bigfoot again. One man fired three shots at it, hitting the Bigfoot.

The Bigfoot screamed and then chased the men all the way back to their house. It roamed the woods around the house all night, yelling and breaking branches. Later in the night, one of the men fired on the Bigfoot again.

November 4, 1998: Greenbrier, Tennessee. A man out hunting was scared off by a Bigfoot staring in the window of his truck. He drove off quickly, but the Bigfoot had blocked the road with a downed tree. The hunter called his friend to come cut up the tree.

They drove off and came to the main road when they saw some deer. The hunter decided to shoot a deer, so he got out. But then the two men saw a Bigfoot heading towards a neighbor’s barn. They fired shots at it, but it kept moving towards the barn. As they fired more, it turned and ran towards them. They jumped into their trucks and drove away very fast.

The hunter and his friend went to their homes, but then they heard the Bigfoot again. The Bigfoot yelled and burst out of the trees 40 feet away. The men unloaded all their guns at it, and it fell to the ground and started crawling away. The hunter told his friend to stop shooting at it because they didn’t know what it was. They followed the blood trail 1/2 mile to a creek where they lost the trail. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

April 6, 1999: Hawkins County, Tennessee. A farmer was plowing his field with his tractor when he saw a Bigfoot come out of the trees. He thought it was a bear, so he pulled out his 30.06 rifle and shot it. They tracked it for six hours but could not find it. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

September-October 1999: Northwestern Alabama. A woman sighted a Bigfoot and reported it to law enforcement. The next day at 4 PM they saw helicopters flying over the area. The copters had .50 caliber machine guns and were firing into the woods. This went on until midnight. Apparently they hit the Bigfoot because residents heard horrible screams from the wounded Bigfoot. It is not known if the Bigfoot was killed or not.

When people asked law enforcement about the helicopters, citizens were told that the police had been eradicating wild boars in the area. However, there had not been any wild boars in the area for 20 years. Reported by the Southeastern Bigfoot Research Organization. Government coverup.

January 2000: Honobia, Oklahoma. The Siege of Honobia. Bigfoot apparently shot and killed as part of a group that was raiding and harassing a rural residence. Other Bigfoots apparently carried off the dead Bigfoot. Reported by the BFRO site.

August 2000: Fort Mitchell, Alabama. A man and his friend were camping at Rood Creek Park Campground and Boat Landing on the Chattahoochee River, Georgia. One of the men’s dogs started whimpering, and the man went to check on it. Then he saw a Bigfoot coming out of the woods and approaching the camp. The man fired two shots from his pistol at the Bigfoot, but they didn’t seem to faze it. The Bigfoot then grabbed the man’s dog and tore it to shreds. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

October 11, 2000: Lewis County, Washington. A mother and two of her children saw a Bigfoot walking across the road. It looked as if it had a gunshot wound in the lower back. Reported by the BFRO site.

April 27, 2001: Orange County, Indiana. A hunter was in a blind calling turkeys in the woods when he heard a noise 50 feet in back of him. He turned around, and after a little bit, a Bigfoot stepped into view. Soon the Bigfoot charged the hunter’s position. The hunter fired one shot at the Bigfoot’s face and hit it. The Bigfoot turned and ran down a steep ravine where it stumbled around for 15 minutes or so. A trail of blood was found leading to the ravine. Reported by the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization.

October 4, 2001: Woodville, Texas. A woman saw a Bigfoot standing in her backyard. She told her son, who grabbed a gun and took off into the woods after it. Soon he heard two men shouting along with gunshots. Then the men said, “Let’s get out of here!” They had apparently been shooting at the Bigfoot. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

2002: Sawyer, Oklahoma. An old man shot a Bigfoot. Bigfoots then started coming to the house, throwing rocks and sticks at it. One day the old man died of a heart attack. Reported by the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy.

Late January 2002: Monster Central, Louisiana. This is a 1,500 acre zone in northwest Louisiana south of Shreveport. A hunter gut shot a Bigfoot and wounded it. Other men with dogs were called in to track the Bigfoot. They tracked it to a tree on the edge of a stream, but it jumped down out of the tree and into the stream. One of the men shot at it again but missed.

Then the men became worried that some of the other Bigfoots might come around to defend the one they shot. Some blood and vomitus were taken for analysis, but the wife of the man who had the samples accidentally threw them away when she found them in the freezer. The results came back “unknown primate.” Reported here.

July 16, 2003: Lincoln County, Tennessee. A man shot a white Bigfoot that was making noise in a yard at night. The Bigfoot stumbled and then ran away. Reported by the BFRO site.

November 12, 2003: Lafollette, Tennessee. A creature had been killing peoples’ animals. A goat and cat at the very least had been killed. A woman called the sheriff’s, they came out with a team of deputies, and told everyone to get their pets indoors, as they were going to eliminate this animal. They tracked the Bigfoot and shot it dead over the next hill.

There were sirens wailing, and the Bigfoot screamed as it was shot. The woman left the scene. People saw a black body lying in a field the next morning. Ten minutes later, it had vanished. Planes flew around the area night and day for two weeks. Locals reported that there had been a hostile Bigfoot in the area, and they were trying to appease it by leaving food out for it so it would not kill their animals. The next day the woman who reported the incident went back to the area, and someone had taken the body away. Reported by Mary Green. Government coverup.

February 2006: Navarro, Texas: At a road crossing, a man shot a Bigfoot twice with a 30.06. The Bigfoot was wounded but walked away. Reported in the Bigfoot Track Record.

August 2006: Slim Buttes, Pine Ridge Reservation, South Dakota. A Bigfoot that had been named Chiye-tanka was shot and killed on the reservation. It was later given to the School of Mines to study. They sent it back, and it was given a ceremonial burial by Lakota elders. Reported by Ray Crowe. Government coverup.

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Oregon: Trump Supporter Knocked Unconscious and Trump Supporter’s Vehicle Attacked

Good news!

Violence broke out at a demonstration at Portland Airport over Trump’s asinine immigration rules. A mob of anti-Trump leftwing demonstrators noticed some Trump supporters nearby and assaulted them. One Trump supporter was knocked unconscious! Good! They knocked him out! The crowd then chanted slogans calling the man a Nazi while bystanders tried to help him. Some of the people in crowd wore black or gray and had their faces covered, which means this may be a Black Bloc action. The man who assaulted him appeared to have been one of those wearing Black Blog attire. The attackers managed to escape. There is a video at the link.

Good job boys! Keep up the good work!

In other news, demonstrators in Eugene attacked a Trump supporter driving a car near an anti-Trump demonstration. 150 demonstrators walked through the streets, disrupting a lot of traffic. At one point, they came to the car of a Trump supporter which was blocked in traffic by the demonstrators. Demonstrators ripped his Trump sticker off his car and set it on fire. Then they pounded on his vehicle and punctured a tire on his car. The attackers managed to escape.

Good work! Keep it up!

 

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Bigfoot News October 7, 2016

Warning: Long, Runs to 76 pages on the Net.

Yay! Another long awaited Bigfoot news! How bout that?

pennsylvania-festival

The famous Pennsylvania Bigfoot festival photo. Didn’t the photographer go back there and take a picture of the same spot, and these weird things were not there? This pic continues to be a mystery. Photographer seemed to be a reliable fellow.

Melba Ketchum DNA study replicated three times by three different scientific teams! Of course in science, replication is everything. If you cannot replicate your findings, they are near-worthless, as all scientific findings must be replicated, usually not just once but a number of times.

Melba’s study initially was greeted with round of derision worse than you hear at a violent soccer match. Nearly the entire community trashed her without even reading her findings. A glum press conference was held in Texas starring several Bigfoot luminaries who all acted like they would rather be someplace else. See below about how there was not even any attempt to replicate the study by anyone in science. They simply said that the whole idea that Sasquatches exist is insane, and they refused to read any further than that. Gotta love those capital-S Scientists!

Then for a long time nothing happened. But just recently I heard that the Ketchum study has been replicated not once, not twice, but actually three separate times!

danny-sweeten

Still from the great Danny Sweeten video. Another male “swimmer” type. Notice the long, elegant limbs and the somewhat akimbo limb style, the nonhuman strike, the apparent cupping of the hands and the appearance of a tall peaked cap in the head – really a coned head. The back story on this one is amazing. Danny Sweeten was hunting in the swamps of Texas when he surprised a sleeping Sasquatch under a tree. The Sasquatch leaped up and punched Danny in the face, knocking him down! Then it ran away very fast. However, Danny was still able to get a nice video of the thing running away. Danny had documented injuries to his face, and he visited a dentist as a result of getting hit in the teeth. The dentist visit is also documented. The video got a lot of airplay, and Sweeten became famous, but he didn’t make a nickel. Furious that he missed his chance at riches, Sweeten did what a lot of witnesses do, faked a video after shooting a real video. A year later, he shot a hoaxed video and turned it in, hoping this time to get the jackpot he missed out on. Sadly, he was caught red-handed, and now Sweeten’s name is mud, and tragically, this clip is also badly tainted due to being shot by a known hoaxer. But I still believe that Danny Sweeten’s first video with the incredible back story is a true Sasquatch video. Sweeten is sort of a Shakespearean tragic character who falls on his sword. It’s an ancient trope, as old as man.

First replication of Ketchum’s findings. The first replication was by a man named Dr. David Swenson. He is a top genetics researcher who has published over 130 genetics papers in scientific journals. He was interested in the findings, but as he said in an interview, he had always thought that that Sasquatch was just a legend or a made-up story. He never believed it.

But he decided to look into Melba’s findings. He blasted them and took some time reading over what he saw. At first he just looked at one chromosome, and in the video interview he did, he only talks about looking at that one chromosome.

The skeptards have dismissed his findings because “he only looked at one chromosome.” But his findings were remarkable. He stated that in that one chromosome, he was able to validate Melba’s findings. He found that indeed this was the DNA of a hybrid that was half human on the female side and half some relict or older hominid on the male side. He was absolutely stunned and could not believe his findings. He discussed them in an interview with Joe Rogan. Rogan asked him if this meant that he believed that Sasquatches exist, and he hedged his answer, scientist that he is. He said:

“Well, I would not go this far. Let’s put it this way. One thing I know for sure is there is an unknown animal in the Pacific Northwest. Let’s just leave it like that.”

Some of the usual skeptards, mostly from one of the worst bunch of Bigfooters out there, the pond scum coagulating around this abomination of a Facebook group otherwise known as Skeptard Central, said I based my whole post on “second hand word of mouth.” Well of course. That’s how everything is in this field. People say things, I write them down and report them. What’s so wrong about that? That’s how this game works. We don’t have much of anything better than “second hand word of mouth” anyway. We haven’t proven jack about these things. We don’t even know they exist. All we have are “second hand word of mouth” sighting reports.

There. There’s the video above of Swenson discussing his replication of Ketchum’s findings. Now it’s not “second hand word of mouth” anymore, right? You satisfied?

Another skeptard argument, this one much more malicious (But what do you expect from skeptards?) was that Swensen is not credible because “he and Melba go way back.” So this distinguished genetic scientist is not credible because he is an old friend of Melba’s? This man is on the verge of committing scientific fraud in order to help an old friend! Wow, breathtaking accusation.

However, now I have learned that this is not true, and he has not known Melba for a long time. He only got interested in her after he heard about her study. And at that time, he didn’t even believe in Sasquatch! Then he did replication work and was stunned to discover that she was absolutely right! So if agreeing with Melba means “he and Melba go way back,” well then, I must say that is a pretty horrible argument, but it’s typical of the skeptards.

Another argument, not really by skeptards but nonetheless a skeptic rejoinder, is the one noted above that Swensen only looked at one chromosome, so the results are not valid. There is a bit of a point here, but how do you look at a single chromosome of any mammal and somehow conclude that it is a hybrid between a human female and a relict hominid male? I don’t get it.

On the other hand, I have now been able to kill that argument too. A source very close to Ketchum has told me that Swensen actually looked at the entire genome and then concluded the same thing, that it was a hybrid between a human female and an unknown relict hominid male.

So it looks like both skeptic arguments have been shot down on that one. Don’t worry, they will come back with new ones.

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From a great clip. The clip is only a few seconds long and is called Bigfoot Crossing a Path. This is a still from the clip. The clip is very seldom seen, and this photo is not well known. Notice the hunched over position, the weird nonhuman squared off skull, and best of all, the sheen from real hair glowing in the sunlight. Costumes never have sheen, ever. Remember that.

Second replication of Ketchum’s findings. The second replication occurred when a lab team associated with an unknown university tried to replicate Ketchum’s findings. Apparently they thought the results were some sort of a joke, and they set out to prove that. They did use some of Ketchum’s actual samples. She still has quite a bit of samples left over from the old study. They had full institutional support until they concluded the study. They tested both NuDNA and MtDNA, and they replicated Ketchum’s findings in toto.

However the institution was only giving them support on the supposition that they would show that Ketchum’s findings were false. As soon as they replicated her findings, institutional support was pulled. The team said they were not going to publish their findings, as a replication of Ketchum’s findings would be a “career-killer,” as they put it. However, they did inform Ketchum of the results. They also do not wish to be named for the same reason given for not publishing their findings.

From Ketchum’s Facebook page:

HUGE NEWS: Our research has now been independently verified genome-wise. I don’t know when or how they’ll come out with it, and I’m not at liberty to say who yet, but it’s finished and matches what we got down to the smallest details. Thank you, God!

Another post about the independent study from her FB page:

Thanks everyone for the kind words and prayers. It’s been a tough road, but at some point the bad will be over since this independent study by acclaimed scientists will come out. Yippee.

Of course, skeptics will have a field day with this one, claiming that Ketchum is lying. But if she is lying about the results of another study, is that not scientific fraud? I believe it is. Scientific fraud is a very serious charge. It’s effectively a career-ender in science. Most people proven to have committed scientific fraud will never publish again. So I would just like to point out that when skeptics accuse Ketchum of making up these results, they are accusing her of scientific fraud, a very serious charge. Glad we cleared that up.

Update: The skeptards are already running crazy with this one, saying we has no evidence other than Ketchum’s own word. That is correct, but the whole reason that the team didn’t want to publish was because replicating Ketchum would mean the end of their careers. In fact, the support from the university was apparently contingent on proving Ketchum wrong. As soon as she was replicated, the university’s support ended.

But why did the team feel that way? Because of the despicable attitude created by the skeptards in the very first place, which now permeates “science” from top to bottom. But let us grant them that one. They are correct. All we have is Ketchum’s word on this one. But if this thing really has been replicated three different times now, this won’t be the last time. Replications will continue in the future, and at some point, somebody is going to publish.

I specifically asked Richard Stubstad whether it was possible that Ketchum was fabricating the results, making stuff up or committing scientific fraud. He told me, “That is not possible.” Richard was a statistician, and he often reported his views in terms of statistical possibilities. So when he says that she could not have committed scientific fraud, he is saying that the odds of her doing that are so low as to be effectively nil. He told me that she was a good, sincere and morally proper scientist, and she just didn’t have it in her to commit scientific fraud. Keep in mind that Stubstad and Ketchum did not like each other at all. And even this man who did not like her said she was not capable of faking results.

Here is Ketchum reporting on the second replication of her study. There. Now it’s not “second hand word of mouth.” Satisfied?

Third replication of Ketchum’s results. I have just received word that a third lab has replicated Ketchum’s results at least in part. This lab came to Ketchum intrigued by her findings and said they wanted to try to replicate. Ketchum gave them some of her samples, and they went off to the lab. Unfortunately, they only tested MtDNA. But they did replicate her study in a sense.

First they used a hair specialist who found that the hair was not human and not that of any known animal. Then the MtDNA tested human, which is exactly correct. So you have proven nonhuman hair testing as human, and in a sense Ketchum is replicated again. It would have been nice if they would have done NuDNA, but they did not. I am not sure if this team is going to publish or not. I will have to ask my source about that.

The skeptards are also going nuts with this one, claiming it is “second hand word of mouth.” Correct, so far they have not published. But maybe they will. Anyway, all evidence must be reported, optimal or not.

Update on the Sierra Kills! I will not go into detail about the Kills, but you can look it up on the Net if you are interested. Briefly, Justin Smeja and an unidentified hunting partner shot and killed two Sasquatches on October 10, 2010 in the Plumas National Forest about 25 miles west of Sierra Valley. I am 100% certain that these kills occurred.

Yes, you heard of the Sierra Kills, but those were surely not the last Sasquatches to be killed by humans. An old friend of mine, in discussing the Sierra Kills case, admitted that it would never amount to anything for a variety of reasons, mostly because as he said, the people involved in the Sierra Kills both directly and peripherally (you know who you are) do not want anything to come of it.

Was Sasquatch flesh retained from the Sierra Kills? Yes. How was it retained? No one knows because Justin Smeja’s wild story about a dog digging through three feet of snow to find a piece of Bigfoot steak is now completely trashed by the fact that he has been carting around a piece of Black Bear to various DNA labs and having it tested and claiming that it is the same piece of “Sasquatch” that he sent to Ketchum. In doing this, Justin is in a sense negating his whole story, though I think his real mission is probably to make Melba look bad. I believe I know why Justin is doing this among other reasons, but I will not elaborate here.

We had a piece of Sasquatch (which was hilariously referred to as the Bigfoot Steak) that was retained from the Kills. This piece was proven to be a Sasquatch in one DNA study, which was then replicated by one scientist and two more teams.

Also we know that Justin (who I know fairly well) did not even believe in Sasquatch before this incident occurred. We know this because this is what all of his friends told us. In fact he openly ridiculed anyone who believed in it.

Until that fateful late afternoon in early October six years ago, when a large adult male Sasquatch and one his children, a juvenile Sasquatch, were shot and killed by Justin Smeja to the southwest of Mount Haskell in the Plumas National Forest in the Sierra Nevada.

What is the likelihood that someone who openly ridiculed those who believed in Sasquatches would concoct an insane story like this? Just about zero. For money? Justin hasn’t made a nickel off of this crazy story, and in fact, he told me that this incident had actually caused him to lose a lot of money. So what’s in it for him? Nothing. How about fame? Justin told me that the only fame he got was infamy, and that’s not the sort of fame that he wants.

Perhaps Justin is a crazy guy who just makes up crazy stuff. Well then, he had to get his very level-headed hunter friend (Who refused to be shown on videotape – why, if he is after fame?) to go along with this insane story. But I know Justin Smeja. Justin Smeja, whatever you think of him, and I actually like the guy, is probably one of the most level- headed, no-BS men that I have ever met. If you were looking for the exact opposite of someone who would make up an insane story like this, Justin is your man.

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This is a great still of a Yeti on a cliff in Russia. The film is only less than 10 seconds long. Look again at that long, slim, “swimmer” physique with the spindly, akimbo limbs and what looks like a coned head. It also seems to be cupping its hands backwards in the way that they do and that hoaxers never do. That also looks like real hair because it is shining in the sun. Suits never shine in the sun, ever. Photo is little known, and the video itself is not much watched anymore.

Road to Damascus conversions of Sasquatch witnesses. Since the killings, my understanding is that Justin has spent much of his free time and certainly much of his summers up in the Sierras looking for Sasquatches. He now knows that they are real, and he is out to in a sense to be vindicated for all of the humiliation that he went through. Rick Dyer Redux, but with a much better lead actor this time.

Now let us suppose that Justin made this story up for whatever nutty reason. Why on Earth, if he made up a stupid story, would he spend almost every free minute for the next several years up in the mountains hoping to see another Sasquatch? No one would do that. That’s absurd.

You see this over and over with witnesses. They see a Sasquatch, and it’s a Road to Damascus conversion. Their whole life changes, and in quite a few cases, they dedicate the rest of their lives to proving that these things are real. Bobbie Short, Don Meldrum, John Bindernagel, Adrian Erickson, and Derek Randles are some of the names of the greats of our field who saw these things, sometimes just once, and then went on to devoting the rest of their lives to proving that they exist. I have known or extensively studied the histories of all of these people. Two are actual scientists. Bobby Short was a nurse. Derek Randles is one of the most no-bullshit guys you will ever meet.  Adrian Erickson saw Sasquatches four separate times.

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Sasquatch doing a tree knock. Look at those very long spindly looking limbs with the odd tapered look. These types are males. Males are very athletic and are said to look like “swimmers.” They are sleeker and taller than the females who are stockier and shorter. I think this is from a video taken in woods of Michigan by a guy who was staying in a snowed in cabin for a couple of weeks. The video is in a snowstorm. The Sasquatch runs incredibly fast and moves its body in an inhumanly fast and Houdiniesqe fashion. The man who took the video thought this was a young male. He said that in the winter, the Sasquatches holed up deep in snowed-in backcountry and almost hibernated. The older males, females and any young stayed back there. They sent the young males out to act as “scouts” to see if anyone was coming to their hideout. The video is very creepy and hard to find now.

The clincher from the Sierra Kills – juvenile Sasquatches with heads as big as five gallon buckets! One thing clinched the Sierra Kills story for me. When Justin first told a Canadian man over the phone about the Kills after his famous initial posting on Taxidermy.net, one of the things that he said was that the juvenile Sasquatch had a huge head, as big as a five gallon bucket. This fact is controversial in the community, but I believe it is true. You can see it in the Pancake Video from the ill-fated Kentucky Project.

Here a juvenile Sasquatch (a female named Matilda) is seen coming at night to grab some pancakes off of table where the pancakes were laid out for the Sasquatches at night. This may sound insane, but the female half of the couple at the site, Sissy, said she had been feeding the Sasquatches there for some time now. She learned this from her mother. Her mother had fed the Sasquatches for a long time, and she also fed them pancakes. So Sissy grew up as a girl with a mother who believed in Sasquatches and said she fed them on a regular basis. So when Sissy grew up, she knew the Sasquatches were still out there, so she continued the feeding.

The Erickson Project occurred when Adrian Erickson bought the Kentucky Project property on Mann Road in Crittenden, Kentucky where Sissy had been feeding the Sasquatches. He then stationed Leila Hadj-Chikh, who had a PhD in Ecology from Yale, along with Dennis Pfohl from Colorado, at the house for the purpose of obtaining evidence of the Sasquatches that were there.

In the Pancake Video, a much-ridiculed aspect of the video is that it portrays a child wearing a turban who comes up to the table at night to snatch the pancakes. However, that is no turban. It looks like a turban because juvenile Sasquatches for some reason have huge heads, as big as a five gallon bucket, as Smeja noted.

As soon as I heard that Justin had noted that the juvenile had a huge head, I knew he was telling the truth. That is because the fact that the babies have huge heads is known by almost no one other than a few Sasquatch experts. In fact, it is widely debated in the field, and some say that it is not even true that they have huge heads. But there is no way that someone like Justin, who did not even believe in Sasquatches, ridiculed anyone who did, and consequently had no interest in the ridiculous subject, could possibly know this incredibly obscure fact about the juveniles having gigantic heads. Forget it. Not possible.

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This photo is also very little known. I think it is from a video. The video is not very good quality and it was taken from some distance, but look at those weird, spindly, akimbo limbs again. You never see those in a hoax.

Bigfoot Steak or Black Bear Tenderloin – that is the question. Justin gave Melba a piece of what he thought was the Sasquatch that he killed. She tested it, and by DNA proved that it came from a Sasquatch. However, Justin and Melba then had a serious falling out. Justin then began carting around more pieces of what he claimed was the same flesh he gave to Melba to four DNA labs, all of which said the piece tested out bear.

The result of Justin’s DNA testing project? Melba Ketchum looks like a liar and an idiot for receiving a piece of bear and concluding that it was actually a piece of Sasquatch.

However, we now know that there are different pieces of flesh. The piece of flesh that he gave to Melba is not from the same flesh that tested out multiple times as Black Bear. The reports proving that we are dealing with two different pieces of flesh can be found here in scanned copies portrayed on Scott Carpenter’s great website, the Bigfoot Field Journal.

I believe the whole story of the Sierra Kills has not been told, which goes without saying, as Justin has been mysteriously toting around a piece of bear claiming it was part of a piece of Sasquatch he sent to Ketchum. However, I believe that there is much more to it than that, and in fact we will never know the true story of the Sierra Kills, in particular what happened after the Sasquatches were killed.

I will not elaborate further except to say that I heave dealt with my theories on this site a lot in the past, and all writing about it does is make people furious at me and call me a liar. There appear to be have been a number of Sasquatch killings in the last 200 years. Most of them are obviously clouded in mystery as all killings of unproven creatures are. I am quite sure that the Sierra Kills will fade into history as just one more Sasquatch killing story that is shrouded in mystery if not controversy like most of the rest of them. Enough of the Sierra Kills!

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Bigfoot on South River, Ontario. Notice that walk again. Notice the cupped hands. Ever seen a hoax with cupped hands? Me either. Look at the coned head. It often looks like to me that they are wearing peaked Cat in the Hat cap or a ski cap. That is probably because those garments have a peaked look to them. Photo is little known.

The loathsome trashing of Melba Ketchum by Big Science. When Melba’s study first appeared, the scientific community first tried to ignore her like a fart in a crowd that everyone hopes will dissipate and will hopefully not be spoken of. We all know it’s there, it stinks like Hell, but we have all agreed that this is so embarrassing that no one should talk about it. Which pretty much sums up Big Science’s initial response.

However, the Bigfoot community was going bonkers over this study, mostly beating Melba over the head senseless with a verbal cudgel. At some point, Melba was the elephant in the room that Big Science could no longer ignore, probably because by now it’s pooping on the rug.

First they ignored her. Then they ridiculed her.

When ignoring her didn’t work, Big Science went to Plan B: Ridicule.

A few articles were published here and there, and mostly the community laughed her off as a pitiful joke. But they all had a good sadistic laugh at the poor woman ‘s expense. However the truth is that not one single scientist who trashed Ketchum even read the study. They simply dismissed it out of hand, which is typical of Mainstream Science and is one of my beefs with them and their Scientific God or Gods that they worship in so fundamentalist a fashion. Nor were any attempts made to replicate her findings. They simply looked at the title and findings, started laughing, threw the study on the floor, and asked the bartender for another round please. They turned the Trashing of Melba into a big party.

Melba in a sense botched the roll-out of the study in a variety of ways, but much of it was probably not her fault.

The Bigfoot community had a big laugh about the study despite the fact that, like Big Science, no one even read it. The performance of some of these clowns was disgusting. One histrionic wag often off his much-needed meds called her “the cat doctor” because she is a veterinarian. He nearly spit the phrase out with contempt when he said it. Over and over it was said that a veterinarian could not know anything about genetics.

However, Melba has published several studies on animal genetics in genetics journals, and she ran (poorly) a now bankrupt DNA lab in Texas. The lab specialized in animal genetics.

Further, Melba was called upon to take part in the DNA project to find the remains of victims killed in the 9-11 terror attacks. DNA was needed because there was almost nothing left of many of the victims. Hence, pieces of human were wrapped up and shipped to the DNA lab, where geneticists tried to match the piece of human to one of the victims. In this macabre manner, most if not all of the 9-11 victims were identified. Only the best geneticists in the US were even asked to participate in this process, so the fact that Melba was chosen shows that she knows her stuff when it comes to genetics.

Further, before he died, Richard Stubstad told me that Melba, in addition to being brilliant, definitely knew her stuff when it came to genetics.

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Hunter’s photos from Southeast Oklahoma, the caption says. I am not familiar with this photo, and it is little known. The first pic off to the left looks excellent. Look at that shaggy coat. I cannot tell you how many photos I have seen with a shaggy coat that looks just like that. You know how many hoaxer photos I have seen with a coat like that? Zero. Whatever that thing on the right is, I have no idea except that it is huge.

The saga of the Gigantic Sasquatch Lemur from 60 million years ago. The community had a huge guffaw over what they said was Melba’s claim that Sasquatches were actually gigantic lemurs from Madagascar that lived 60 million years ago. These lemurs actually existed way back then as we have learned from the fossil record. How these giant lemurs somehow leaped from an African island 60 million years ago to deep woods of the Pacific Northwest in our modern era without being spotted in the interim in either time or space is uncertain. Perhaps they rode some Sasquatch Lemur Time Warp. Who knows? See video below and say hello to Brad for me please.

Of course such a claim is absurd on its face, but her study was so poorly written (another botch, see below) that one could actually muddle through the fractured syntax and tortured prose to conclude that this was indeed the absurd claim she was making.

However, the truth is that Melba never said that Sasquatches were Giant Lemurs from Madagascar from 60 million years ago. That is a false reading of her paper. Instead she said that Sasquatches had a gene that caused their eyes to glow in the dark that traced back to these extinct Giant Lemurs from Island Africa. Got it? And yes, Sasquatches do have eyes that glow in the dark. There are many videos on Youtube showing this.

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I always liked this photo. Credit to James Rosick. I think this was taken in Oregon, and I think they were hunting when this was taken. I believe the man in the foreground did not know that the thing was in the background. Do you see how the arms and legs are all akimbo like that? I have seen so many photos and even videos that look like that. I am certain this is real because I have never seen a fake with the arms and legs splayed out like that. You would think the hoaxers would get wise to it, but they never do.

Melba’s roll-out of her study was heavily botched, as noted above. She could not find a journal which would print her findings. It was in peer review at Nature, the flagship journal of science, for some time but was rejected there. Editors at other journals openly told her that their scientific careers would be destroyed if they ran her study in their journals. So Melba bought her own journal and changed the name of it in a rather underhanded and sleazy way, lying continuously the whole time she was doing this.

Then she claimed she did her own peer review with a few scientists and it passed. She never showed us any evidence of this review. I doubt if the study was ever peer-reviewed. She probably just lied and said it was so she might be regarded as even slightly serious. Alas, it was all for naught, as the study was rejected out of hand, peer review or no peer review. In addition, her rather sleazy shenanigans with the frankly vanity journal that she bought in order to run her study added to the ridicule and derision from the scientific community, not that I blame them, as the whole thing seemed pretty amateurish and had a bad smell to it.

The thing is that if your scientific study cannot pass peer review at a real scientific journal, you can always go out and create or buy a vanity journal, make it your own journal and then print your own stuff. You can even claim that you did your own peer review. In this sense, dubious findings which fail to even make it through peer review at refereed journals can be published by any scientist, amateur or professional, with a bit of cash and a lot of nerve and gall.

On the other hand, almost no one will take your vanity journal study seriously, similar to the way almost no one reads or takes seriously vanity books that are published on their own by authors in a similar fashion when they can’t find a real publisher. Vanity journals and publishers are the last refuge of throwaway studies and books that the industry thinks are so bad that they won’t even print a single copy. They are regarded as a joke category for, well, losers who can’t make it in publishing or science. Sort of, “If no one else thinks your work is any good, just publish it yourself!” Embarrassing.

Nowadays with self-publishing this is all changing somewhat, but still self-published books often have horrible layout, typeface, photos and proofreading no matter the quality of the actual writing, which is sometimes quite good. These books scream amateur so loudly you want to throw them across the room. So self-publishing, while a step up from the vanity presses of yore, continues to suffer from much the same credibility gap as the old presses.

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I always liked this one. Another photo from Pennsylvania. Taken by an older farmer. Good backstory, and the farmer seemed very reliable.

Sad Erickson Project press conference. There was a nearly pitiful press conference held with in Texas with Melba, Adrian Erickson, Dennis Pfohl, and some other superstars of the scene. The presser was poorly handled. A few shocking snippets of Erickson’s Sasquatch videotapes from the Erickson Project were shown, but my sources tell me that a lot of the best material was withheld. For what reason? No one seems to know. Supposedly for a TV show starring Erickson which has not yet come to pass.

Melba rattled off her DNA findings. Nobody showed up for the presser, and it received almost no media. Adrian’s videos, including the fascinating one of Matilda, the young female Sasquatch from the Kentucky Project sleeping on the ground that could not have been faked, were laughed off again. There were also a few new videos, but they were not nearly as impressive as Sleeping Matilda. Erickson looked glum through the whole thing. Melba was earnest. Pfohl tried his best. The whole thing was embarrassing, but I think they tried their best.

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OK, that is so weird. This resembles some of those weird White Sasquatch photos out of Texas. Taken at night as you can see. This photo is little known.

Adrian Erickson, failure and fool? Not so fast now! Adrian Erickson saw Sasquatches four separate times. After the last time, he reportedly said, “I am getting tired of seeing these things. I am going to prove that they exist.” Hence he spent $3 million of his own hard cash in an attempt to prove that they exist. The Erickson Project is typically regarded as a failure in which Erickson wasted his money.

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What in God’s name is that? The caption says Sheep Farmer’s Shocking Bigfoot Video. OK, well, which video are we talking about here? Look at that stride. Humans don’t walk like that. And do you see some gray on the bottom of the foot?

However, he used that money to shoot some excellent Sasquatch video which was not faked, and he helped fund Melba Ketchum’s Sasquatch DNA project which not only proved that Sasquatches exist but has now been replicated by three separate scientific teams. Adrian, like Melba, has been heavily trashed by this episode (Melba openly states tragically that it ruined her career), however I believe that in the end, both will be vindicated and will come to be regarded as among the Greats of our field, up there with Roger Patterson, Bob Gimlin and the rest.

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An extremely weird Sasquatch photo from Kentucky. Was this taken near the Janice Carter habituation site? I forget. There were all sorts of weird characters running around that site for a while snapping all manner of funny photos. Unfortunately the people taking the photos were so weird and marginal that no one much looked at them. This photo has always freaked me out. What the Hell is that?

Bryan Sykes DNA study. Here is Ketchum commenting on Brian Sykes going on Coast to Coast radio and attacking Melba’s DNA study:

I received a copy of the nicest email from a guy that wrote C to C. I wanted to share it. It humbles me when people are so gracious. It’s all of you here and people like this who sent this to my public page that make all of the hate bearable. I just want to thank all of you for your kind words, support, and encouragement. I love y’all! I haven’t heard back from George K. yet. I’ll keep you posted.

Hi George and George,

I’m a huge Coast fan and Coast Insider, and I literally listen to the show everyday. Usually, I am very happy with Coast, but today after listening to the show with Brian Sykes, I must say I am very upset. During his appearance with Dave Schraeder this weekend, he seriously and unfairly badmouthed Melba Ketchum and her amazing ground-breaking DNA study of Bigfoot.

Sykes was totally arrogant throughout the show and was obviously very ill-informed about Melba’s work, nonetheless he proceeded to trash talk her and her study. It was disturbing and unworthy of Coast. I know neither of you hosted the show, but I wanted to ask you to please give some airtime to Melba Ketchum to refute the baseless accusations that Sykes leveled against her and her study. Melba deserves a chance to address this. Thank you.

Cheers

More posts from Melba about Sykes, all from her FB page:

Normally I just let all the garbage go, but Sykes is a scientist and has been nasty about our study, yet he’s not been at Oxford for many years (quote from Oxford), and without keeping up with the technology, you’re a dinosaur within a year or so at the rate technology is developing. He makes up an “institute” at Oxford to publish his paper, which you NEVER do (once again quoting Oxford as saying there is no such institute).

He disses bioinformatics, which is the most cutting-edge analysis method for whole genomes known to mankind, preferring the “golden age of genetics”. His paper was proven wrong about the bear genetics by other geneticists, and they wrote a published response to the Royal Academy. All of this can be found in the UK press and the Royal Academy, so I’m not saying anything that’s not public knowledge.

He’s a mtDNA scientist, so he’s not skilled in all of the disciplines in our paper.

I’m not either on all of it – that’s why there are numerous authors in our manuscript. Each scientist wrote according to their discipline. Like the bioinformatics was written by the bioinformaticist. The electron microscopy by the head of that department at Texas A&M and so forth. I’m only the lead author and therefore responsible for answering the questions and correspondence for it, writing my part, and putting it all together.

We used 12 labs, and they used one US mtDNA lab, not Oxford, and only tested a small portion of the mtDNA loop. No other genetic testing was done.

And after all of this, he has the audacity to diss our work. How unprofessional and naive. Bless his heart. I can prove ours is not contaminated by human or other mammals. I did a video on it. He forgets I’m a forensic scientist, and all crime scenes are subject to contamination, so I know how to make sure it’s not there.

One more thing. SYKES CONTACTED ME before his paper, and I offered him full access to samples, research and even offered to take him to the habituation site. I have the emails. Then he contacts me back and says he’s not coming. He didn’t even have to come here to have access to everything, but he blew me off after I offered everything. So that speaks a lot for his wanting to get to the truth. I don’t say anything I can’t prove, and I have the emails to back this up. If he had worked with me, he would know why the seven Sasquatch samples in his study wouldn’t run. It took us months to figure this out. In his paper he says he doesn’t understand why they didn’t run, but I know…

I think it would be very interesting to figure out why those seven samples would not run at all.

Reason Bryan Sykes study failed. Sykes was given a very large number of all sorts of samples. Apparently a number of them were from Sasquatches, but quite a few others were from known animals or even people.

My female contact at Ketchum’s study gave me the rundown on her group’s opinion of what went down in the Sykes study:

According to her, Sykes used a hair specialist to look at his samples before he used them. What the purpose of this hair specialist was is not known, since he didn’t appear to screen much of anything. The Ketchum camp believes that Sykes’ hair specialist knew what Sasquatch hairs look like. They do have a characteristic quality that makes them look like no known animal, nor do they appear human, though they look more human than anything else.

Ketchum’s people felt that the hair specialist had specifically weeded out all of the Sasquatch samples and only sent samples of known animals and humans to Sykes, possibly disposing of all of the Sasquatch samples. Why he would do this is not known, but the contact told me that there are a number of researchers who are either professionally jealous of Ketchum or for one reason or another want to discredit her study. The contact implied that Sykes or at least his hair specialist was one of those.

“The fix is in,” she told me in relation to this and a number of other professional attempts to sabotage or discredit Ketchum’s findings.

Major proponents of Ape Theory know they are wrong! A war has been going on for a long time in the scene between proponents of the Ape Hypothesis, which states that Sasquatches are apes, and believers in the Hominid Hypothesis, which states that they are a type of people, albeit prehistoric men.

An anonymous source who is very deep into the scene has told me that a number of the major proponents of the Ape Hypothesis know that they are wrong and know that Sasquatches are a type of hominid, but they feel that if they change their theory now, their careers will be over. She named a few names, but I am not going to repeat them here. Suffice to say that they are people that everyone in the scene has heard of. Now don’t any of you big proponents of the Ape Theory go writing me angry mails now! I didn’t name any names, right? Could be anyone, right?

But this sure is shocking news!

Are Ape Theory proponents sabotaging Hominid Theory people? According to a source very deep into the scene, sabotaging is really the wrong word to use. Instead, the Ape Theory people systematically ignore all evidence that does not fit in with their theory. They dismiss Ketchum’s DNA study on hazy or shaky grounds, and when on TV, they simply never mention it. They more or less act like Ketchum’s paper does not even exist.

However, I have good evidence that well-known Ape Theory proponent Matt Moneymaker has sabotaged a number of sighting reports in his database by removing witness accounts that describe the Sasquatch as looking human. Richard Hucklebridge was run off the BFRO because he confronted Matt over his alteration of data. Wow! Matt Moneymaker altering scientific data to fit it into his pet theory! Sleazy or what?

Sasquatches actually cloak! I know this sounds completely insane, and for a long time, I laughed at the people who believed in cloaking, as I thought they were were woo types. However, now an anonymous source who is also an excellent researcher presented me with some evidence that Sasquatches actually do cloak. She showed me a photo of a cloaking Sasquatch and outlined the Sasquatch in red ink. You could indeed see an indistinct shadow there.

She told me that Sasquatches cloak by using their infrasound to bend light waves, making them appear to be somewhat invisible. They’re not actually invisible, but they look instead like an indistinct light shadow that could be anything. Apparently via infrasound you may be able to bend light waves to produce this effect. It’s quite amazing, and this is a scientific explanation that could theoretically actually make sense.

This clears up so many things. Remember all the reports of Sasquatches vanishing into thin air, even in the Arizona and Texas desert? I always thought that was completely insane, but there have been so many reports that you start to wonder. There was once a page up called Desert Sasquatch that included a lot of these weird reports along with a lot of other very woo stuff. However, the female author was scientific-minded and offered possible scientific solutions (highly speculative of course) for how the Sasquatches could be doing some of these woo things. She also had a theory for the “Sasquatch disappearing into thin air” observations.

Notice how many times people report that these things are impossible to see? Maybe that’s because they cloak much of the time they are around us! Notice how many people say you only see them when they want you to see them? Well, maybe we only see them when they take their cloaking off in order to be seen for some reason!

Another thing that I have noticed so many times is that people take photos of videos where they can’t see much of anything in the background or at least there are certainly no Sasquatches. They just shoot a video of a hike, the forest outside their cabin or the field next door. It is only when they go in to look at the photos or video that they shot that they notice the Sasquatch that they somehow could not see at the time! Now I am wondering if this cloaking only works on the human eye and not on cameras. After all, eyeballs and photo lenses work in completely different ways.

Perhaps the human eye is subject to this light-bending effect but cameras are not? If that is so, then that is an excellent explanation for all of the cases we have of people shooting photography with nothing in the background but landscape and only seeing the Sasquatch after they are looking at the film or video later on. That’s because the Sasquatch was invisible to the human eye but not to the camera lens. It’s just a theory, but it would explain a major problem in Sasquatch sightings which is how Sasquatches unseen at the time of the photographing suddenly show up later when you are looking at the film.

This is one of the most fantastic Sasquatch videos I have ever seen. It is from Sasquatch Ontario. The fellow who runs that organization is named Mike and is despised by most everyone in the scene because he refuses to cooperate with other researchers and fights with almost anyone. Apparently he is a complete SOB.

But this video is simply incredible. Notice the obviously cloaking Sasquatch in the background speaking and singing to the researcher. This has been called a hoax, but how in the Hell do you hoax that? How do you make that perfectly-shaped thing in the background, and why would you make it so indistinct like that? Is Sasquatch Ontario a special effects studio? I don’t think so.

I know someone who is familiar with Mike and has been out to his habituation site. This man told me that Mike is 100% real, and he is not hoaxing at all.

Now once you accuse someone of hoaxing, shouldn’t you prove it? OK, people say this video is hoaxed. Got any evidence that it’s hoaxed? Can you prove it? Well, if you have no evidence, then be quiet about the hoaxing charge!

The bizarre method of Sasquatch speech. As you can see in the video above, that thing is speaking in the strangest way. The latest theory for why Sasquatches sound so damn weird is because they speak on the inhale instead of speaking on the exhale as we do. That thing in the video is speaking and singing on the inhale! No wonder it sounds so weird. Try speaking on the inhale if you can manage it, and see how it sounds. Isn’t that weird? Why the Hell do they speak on the inhale?

And one more thing, if you were going to hoax a Sasquatch talking, why in God’s name would you record the human hoaxer speaking on the inhale of all things? No one would do that. Further, some of the sounds being produced by that thing seem to beyond the range of the human vocal tract.

Possible Sasquatch seen on Survivorman! Les Stroud did a Survivorman show for a couple of years on TV. The show was broken up into a number of parts, and then the parts were further broken up into Parts 1 and 2. There were at least eight separate Survivorman Bigfoot portions. The labeling looked like, say, Survivorman Bigfoot 7, Part 1, for example.

No one knows what is in this video. Some are saying it is a tree, a stump, a shadow or a rock. It could not have been hoaxed because Stroud does not hoax. Not only that, but this possible Sasquatch was not seen until the show appeared on TV! It was only then that watchful viewers noticed the possible Sasquatch in the background. Stroud and the camera crew didn’t even know the thing was there! Of course, once again we see a case where the humans at the scene saw nothing, and the Sasquatch only shows up later on the camera. This may be due to cloaking, but that’s just my theory.

I do think this is a Sasquatch because that is exactly what they look like. Not only that, but nothing else in the background is the same shade of black as that object. Most importantly, the black object has a sheen to it. Rocks, trees, stumps, and shadows don’t have a sheen, especially on a cloudy day with no sun out. But true Sasquatch videos often have sheen. This is because as I noted above, real Sasquatches have oils on their skin under their hair.

This gives them, and presumably any other living thing with such skin oils, a sheen to their coats. It’s notable that not one single proven hoax has even had sheen to it, nor have hoaxers even tried to replicate this sheen, maybe because they can’t. Obviously suits will not have sheen because they are worn over a clothed human body. There’s no skin oils for the suit to contact, and the suit’s not real hair on a real body anyway.

Survivorman Bigfoot show at the Alberta Habituation Site! There was one portion, Show 7, shot at this famous site which only I have written about. Show 7 has Parts 1 and 2. It’s labeled Nordegg, Canada. If you have been reading me, that is almost exactly where I implied that the AHS was! Stroud went out to the AHS with Todd Standing. It’s been Todd’s site for some time now ever since the weasel deceived other researchers to find out where the secret site was and then stole it from other researchers and claimed it for his own. It was here at this Nordegg site that Jeff Meldrum saw what may have been his first Sasquatch walking across a clearing in the middle of the night.

A lot of people say I am full of it, but I wrote about this site for a long time, describing approximately where it was. I also told the story about how Todd stole the site from other researchers and how it was now his site. Then Stroud goes out to Nordegg, Canada with Todd Standing, presumably to the AHS. So all of my reporting on the AHS has been vindicated as true!

I haven’t watched this episode yet, but if you want to see some real footage of the AHS, here it is!

 

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Robert Stark Interviews Matt Forney about the NPI Conference, US Cities, Houellebecq, & the Paris Terror Attack

I normally do not link to interviews with Matt because he is a dyed in the wool conservative whose enemy is the “Left.” Well, that’s me. I am the Left. Alt Left maybe, but Left nevertheless. Nevertheless, most of these discussions here are great and steer away from Left-bashing other than the unfortunate nonsense about how the Left destroyed cities I guess by saying people had a right to survive and have some shelter over their heads. Which of course makes us evil, right?

Here.

Topics include:

Matt’s experience at the recent National Policy Institute’s Conference in Washington DC.
How the theme of the conference Become Who We Are was about creating a new identity.
How Left-Wing Activists Tried to Shut Down This Year’s NPI Conference”
Matt’s take on Washington DC and how it would be a great city if it weren’t for its people.
How transplants tend to fulfill the obnoxious stereotypes of cities (ex. DC, NY, LA, Portland).
Obnoxious broke hipsters in Portland vs. obnoxious trust fund hipster in NYC.
How NY hipster transplants benefited from the same police enforcement and gentrification which they agitate against.
How New York’s gentrification has made the city sterile and killed it’s creative energy.
Kill Your Idols documentary about the punk scene in NY in the early 80’s.
Matt’s life in Chicago and how despite its crime it has a cohesive culture and affordable living.
How Chicago shutting down its public housing projects such as Cabrini–Green dispersed crime over a larger area.
Matt experience living in Portland, Oregon, and how Portlandia is so accurate it’s not even funny.
Why Matt favors urban living over suburban or rural living.
Why Matt views the suburbs as an unfortunate social development but they developed because the Left destroyed cities and forced out the middle class.
How major cities such as NY once had vibrant urban middle classes.
E. Michael Jones’s The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal As Ethnic Cleansing.
How the further away we get from nature, the greater increase in social dysfunction we see.
Matt’s trip to Las Vegas and how his friend Davis Aurini describes the city as an “honest whore.”
Anti-natalism and how it’s an interesting philosophical question but attempts to apply reason to interfere with nature.
How anti-natalism appeals to the most thoughtful and intelligent individuals, thus removing them from the gene pool.
Michel Houellebecq The Father Of The Term “Sexual Marketplace”.
Houellebecq’s Whatever which is about people who lost out on the sexual revolution.
Houellebecq’s Submission which is about an Islamist takeover of France and whether that scenario is likely.
Louis-Ferdinand Céline.

The recent terrorist attack in Paris and future scenarios in Europe

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Take the Black Pill

This is a video from one of the most popular posters on the Robot9000 board on 4chat where the Oregon shooter may have posted before he did his dastardly deed.

I would listen in particular to the section from 14:00-16:00 where he predicts a pre-civilizational future where the top men amass harems of 10-15 women each and the rest of the men get none. It sounds crazy but…

The feminists, the male feminists, the blue pillers, the SJW’s, the Left, almost all women, and quite a few men flat out say that all of these incels are imagining things. There is no Alpha, Beta, Omega, etc. It’s all made up pseudoscience. There is no Game, or if there is, it is pseudoscience that doesn’t even work. All these incels have brought this matter on themselves. The feminists say that all they have to do is bathe regularly, practice good hygiene, get some decent clothes, work out, get a job and act halfway normal and they will find a woman just like that. Their whole problem is a lousy attitude.

Yet there is a very important question at stake here. Has the Sexual Marketplace indeed changed since the 1960’s, 70’s, 80’s and even beyond. I certainly don’t recall anything like these mass incel movements before. We never saw anything like this in the 70’s and 80’s. Sure there were guys who couldn’t get laid to save their lives, but they were not common and everyone assumed they were bringing it on themselves. Of course there were many fat and homely men of all sorts, but most of them seemed to be able to find a similar woman with ease. There was no talk of Chad Thundercock, incels,  Game, hypergamy, PUA gurus, PUA bootcamps or any of that. Now these things may well have existed, but no one was talking about them.

According to the the feminists, the male feminists, the blue pillers, the SJW’s, the Left, almost all women, and quite a few men absolutely nothing whatsoever has changed about the Sexual Marketplace between the 70’s and today. All of these clowns could go get a woman anytime they want to. In other words, they are imagining all of this. They’re hallucinating. They’re making it up. They’re getting all upset about something that’s not even real.

And yet…and yet…I can’t help thinking that the Sexual Marketplace has indeed changed since the 1980’s. I also have a nagging feeling that these poor, lost, forlorn men may well be onto something. I know the Game/PUA guys are onto something.* I am frightened that there is more than a grain of truth to  what they say and on some level, they may be complaining about some real phenomenon that is manifesting itself as a substantially changed Sexual Marketplace. I don’t think they are making this stuff up or hallucinating. And sadly, I don’t think they could get a woman by snapping their fingers either.

Everybody thinks that when I write about this stuff, I am complaining. I’m not. However, aspects of the incel movement resonate with me as a longterm bachelor who experienced the feast or famine of the dating world. I’ve had some incel periods myself and in those times, I can see myself in the faces of these poor sods. But to answer the question, no I am not complaining? Why should I? All indications are that if this phenomenon exists, I’ve been benefiting from it since age 17.

If this is some real new sociosexual phenomenon, I think it might be interesting for some bright minds and scholars to look into it. Right now all the work is being done by amateurs. The scholars are all ignoring the phenomenon and claiming it doesn’t exist. But it would be nice to get at least a conversation going about this subject.

As usual, I have no solutions. It is erroneous to think that life is full of solutions. Most chronic human problems are more or less unsolvable. Apparently most people can’t bear the thought of that, and this is why you always see people going on and on about how to “solve” this or that problem. It’s a delusion, a defense against the painful truth that on a lot of levels, we’re pretty much screwed and there’s not a thing to be done about it.

* I know for a fact that Roissy and the rest of the dirtbag PUA’s are onto something. This “Game” stuff is nothing new. These guys haven’t discovered anything. Sure, they have come up with some nice theory, but there are no groundbreaking new discoveries. I and most of my friends figured out this “Game” stuff back in the 1970’s when I first started dating. It’s nothing but the timeless wisdom of ages that men have always used as tools of seduction and understanding the female mind. Female nature now is the same as it’s been for 2,000 years.

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Robert Stark Interviews Robert Lindsay about the Oregon Shooter

There is a new interview with me up. Mostly about the latest mass shooting. Give it a listen and let me know what you think.

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Another Incel Shoots up College, 10 Dead, 7 Wounded
4Chan Subculture and the Post on R9K Predicting the Shooting
Beta Uprising
How America’s Hyper-individualism and Atomization Leads to Mass Shootings
The Oregon School Shooter and Asperger’s
Misanthropy
Depression and Suicide
Homicidal Fantasies
Study: Males and Females Differ in How They Rate the Attractiveness of the Opposite Sex
What Is This Man Doing Wrong? ( Why hasn’t Game Worked?)

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The Mascot of Robot9000 on 4Chan

That's their mascot. His name is Pepe and he's usually carrying a gun I think. I believe he is a frog.

That’s their mascot. His name is Pepe and he’s usually carrying a gun I think. I believe he is a frog.

Pepe, above, is the mascot of the Robot9000 board on 4chan, where the Oregon mass shooter, Christopher Harper-Mercer, appears to have posted a threat warning of the attack the day before. The warning was accompanied by a pic of Pepe.

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Oregon School Shooter Confirmed as Having Asperger’s

Figures.

Adam Lanza was also on the autistic spectrum and so was Seung-Hui Cho. There is no evidence whatsoever that George Sodini, the Columbine shooters or Elliot Rodger were on the spectrum although they are often said to be. Rodger was a pathological narcissist, one of the Colombine shooters was a sociopath and the other one was depressed, and no one knows what if anything was wrong with Sodini.

His mother confirmed that he was an Aspie in online posts. As a boy, he was a “headbanger” – that’s not a metalhead but instead is someone on the spectrum who likes to bang their head against walls.

Chris Harper-Mercer, the shooter, had access to 14 guns. It was thought that those were his own guns, but as in the Lanza case, instead they were owned by his gun nut mother, a nurse.

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Another Incel Goes ER (Elliot Rodger), Shoots up College, 10 Dead, 7 Wounded

Breaking news right now:

Another young man, reportedly an incel like Elliot Rodger and George Sodini, has conducted a mass shooting. This shooting was done at a community college. He wandered through hallways shooting at everyone he saw. Cops came and he shot it out with him. He lived for a while after he was shot, and then he died. It is not yet known if he was killed by the police or his own hand.

The shooting happened at Umpqua Community College in Oregon at 10:38 AM this morning. 7 people were killed, including the shooter, and 7 more were wounded.

The shooter has been identified as Chris Harper Mercer, age 26.

He hung out on a 4chan site called Robot9000 or RK9, which is where a lot of young men who feel they are being passed over by society hang out and attack what they call “normies.” Normies are well-liked and well-adjusted young men.

They often make posts talking about how much they hate normies. There is a strong incel undercurrent with the site similar to PUAHate where Elliot Rodger hung out. Mercer appears to have been some sort of an incel. After he posted his warning telling his fellow Robots not to go to school in the Pacific Northwest tomorrow, a poster said, “Instead of doing that, why don’t you go talk to a woman!”

He, like many RK9 posters, fashioned himself as a Beta. Apparently “normies” may be the Alphas who are getting all the girls and fun. There is a lot of talk about a “Beta Uprising,” which is some sort of violent uprising of the male Betas against the Alphas who oppress them and the society that supports it. Mercer may have talked about and predicted this Beta Uprising.

“Going ER” is Internet shorthand made up by the SlutHate crowd which means “going Elliot Rodger” – for an incel to go on an Elliot Rodger type shooting spree. There is a lot of talk on Sluthate about who is going to be the next poster to Go ER. Here is the Sluthate post talking about the shooting.

Mercer made a post yesterday on R9K predicting this shooting, but no one did anything about it. However, people make threats on 4chan all the time. They come so often and usually don’t amount to anything so no one bothers to do anything about it. Also users say that finding threats and investigating them is the job of the police, not the posters.

After the George Sodini shooting and the Elliot Rodger shooting, I predicted that there were going to be more of these explosive outbursts by incel males, and I was right.

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