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Some Descriptions of the Alt Left on the Net

The Alt Left is just the Alt Right, except they like Mao way more than they like Hitler.

Sort of correct.

The Alt Left are basically Alt Right Communists.

Sort of right.

The Alt Left is the left wing of the Alt Right.

Sort of, yes.

Ultra-brocialists.

Exactly.

I would imagine an “Alt-Left” would go beyond and be above that, putting class struggle over identity politics without using “class above all else” to shut down any debate over racism/sexism/etc. A Left that didn’t think accusing people of racism is enough to dissuade them from voting Trump/UKIP/Le Pen/et al but actively sought ways to persuade those with racist tendencies to not be racist.

A Left that was able to inform the working class that the Alt-Right and Far-Right are bad news for the working class as a class – as well as the well-documented ways they are bad news for various oppressed demographics. Finally, above all else, a Left that rejected the loopy elements of Identity Politics (as commonly found in academia particularly in the US but an issue in the UK as well, especially with the NUS) and injected some much needed rationality into the debate.

Perfect.

Aren’t the Alt Left just social democrats who are critical of immigration? Something like that.

Immaculate.

Seems like there are already people self-describing as the ‘Alt-Left’ in the sense of being the ‘leftwing of the Alt-Right’ — from what I’ve seen, social democratic on economic matters, very hostile when it comes to Identity Politics, feminism, etc., occasionally antisemitic.

Probably one of the best definitions so far.

There’s definitely a return to imagined Christian values/hetero nuclear family at core …you could have an Alt-Left that did that too I guess if you really wanted.

There are Alt Left people pushing exactly this. And anyone into traditional morals or traditional values with Left economics would absolutely be welcome here.

I think the Alt Left is the left wing of the Alt Right. That is how it seems to me anyway. Where the Alt Right embraces fascism, they embrace concepts like Maoism.

That’s about it.

Having said that, I think there’s space for some form of Leftism that is skeptical of both market and state but doesn’t sign up to any of the current far Left ideologies. And has good memes.

Sort of, yes.

Again, it’s just a liberal guy who is a White Nationalist. It’s basically the leftwing of the Alt-Right as the blog itself says or some kind of lite version of Nazbol with emphasis on the Naz and not a whole lot of Bolshevism.

Discussing Rabbit’s page. Nazbol Lite is a pretty good way to describe Rabbit, too.

Class Left is better. Or Classical Libertarians. Or Class Realists.

Classical Libertarians no; Class Left and Class Realists are both perfect. We are “class reductionists.”

Workerists.

Precisely.

We’re back to “we want a UKIP of the left” again.

A UKIP of the Left would not be a bad thing. It would seem to be an Alt Left project.

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Is It OK to Punch a Trump Supporter at a Political Rally or Gathering?

Discuss.

Jason Y: No offense Robert but you seem to be sympathizing with Trump supporters when before you were praising all acts of rioting and other mayhem directed at Trump. Note, these anti-fas are just playing by your playbook and, of course, it is to be expected cause Trump is so infiltrated with WN’s that it all seems like fair game.

Riots are just fine. I do have some issues when it comes to people getting hurt, and these Trump supporters, let’s face it, they boil down to the definition of innocent civilians. I didn’t like the fire bombings of Germany or Japan either. You can’t kill civilians just for supporting a regime.

Well I have nothing against some property damage, but it does rather bother me to see even these Trumpsters getting beat up or even punched out. I have some real mixed feelings about it. I say they deserve it, but when I see it happens, it bothers me. Also if we see it’s ok to assault them at their gigs and if they show up at ours, they get to come to our demos or see us at their demos and assault us on sight too. I don’t really want to get beat up or even punched. If it’s ok for us to hit them, it’s going to be ok for them to hit us.

I am currently having an ethical dilemma about this stuff. Sure, I say I don’t care about them, but then I see them getting beat up and I want to run over there and shield them to keep them from getting hit anymore. Part of me says it’s ok for them to get clocked once or twice but I definitely do not want to see them get suffer long-term or permanent damage. A little temporary damage might be ok, but I am not sure about that either.

I don’t care if they clock Richard Spencer. If anyone is asking for it, it is him. But I also don’t care if they never hit him again. I disagree with the antifa that guys like Spencer are the problem. I mean Bannon, Pence, Price, De Vos, Sessions, those guys deserve a punch in the face 1,000 times worse than Spencer does. Or worse. They are actually doing some very serious damage and harm to lots of human beings. A lot of people are going to die and a lot more are going to get hurt, and it’s all going to be done by these people.

These supporters are just cheering on the attackers and killers, which I am unsure is such a serious offense.

Compared to those names I listed, what damage is Richard Spencer doing? Shooting off his mouth. If you are going to assault someone, hit someone who is actually doing some sort of concrete damage, not just flapping his gums.

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Are Jews More Likely to Be Rude Loudmouths?

Here’s my token “anti-Semitic” post for the day. Enjoy.

I am running into the phenomenon lately of running into Jews, all males, who all fit the stereotype of obnoxious, rude, combative, know-it-all who know nothing, arrogant, cocky, condescending, belligerent loudmouths. I am talking about the sort of person who when they talk to you, seem to be asking for a punch in the face. It’s that style of verbal engagement.

Now obviously a lot of Gentiles, especially Gentile men, act this way too. We run into them all the time. But I can’t help notice Jew after Jew after Jew after Jew after loudmouthed Jew.

Obviously, both Jews and Gentiles (especially males) engage in this behavior. But I am wondering if Jews are more likely to act this way than Gentiles, statistically?

Am I hallucinating  here or am I onto something?

Footnote: I have actually been noting this most of my life, but earlier I was such a Judeophile that I blew it off.

Here are some remarkable recent comments from a Jewish commenter, Aaron, which seem to be saying that I am indeed onto something here and I am not hallucinating.

I would like to thank Aaron for these remarkable comments which are incidentally also very well written. Aaron is one of the best writers and especially thinkers on this site and we are honored to have him.

Aaron: The dirty little secret is that people who dislike Jews do so because they’ve had too many bad experiences with Jews, and for that you can’t be White trash in flyover country where there are almost no Jews. People who have never interacted extensively with Jews tend to have an idealistic attitude towards them.

I’m Jewish, and I have to admit that most of the antisemitic tropes about Jews are correct, broadly speaking. Jews tend to be extremely envious, competitive, full of anger, hatred and contempt towards others, and obsessed with money over all spiritual or aesthetic values. They are backstabbing and unreliable, even among friends.

Living among Jews is like living in Renaissance Italy – which is an early training for gaining and keeping power. Whats more, you begin to realize the Jewish reputation for genius is just self-promotion. Jews tend to be mildly intelligent mediocrities who are obsessed with success and money and achieve it using dishonest means and through obsessive self-promotion and marketing, which in a democracy, naive people don’t realize how effective it can be. As Wittgenstein, himself a Jew, said – at best Jews can have talent, but are never geniuses. All honest Jews eventually realize this.

Growing up Jewish, I thought our behavior was normal and everyone acted like this. It was only by leaving the community and traveling extensively did I realize that we Jews are actually very different and are actually in fact insane. When I tried to tell my Jewish friends that most people don’t act as bad as our community does, they insisted it’s just human nature and other people are the same or worse.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think its “genetic.” It’s a product of a very pathological Jewish culture, and Jews are themselves the first victims of all this. We grow up incapable of feeling happiness or love and with a burning obsession with success and money as if our very lives depended on it. Which, in a sense, is true, as our egos are so fragile we feel we will collapse and die if we don’t achieve “success”.

Is it any wonder that the Jewish country, Israel, has a reputation for coarse rudeness and a pathologically aggressive interpersonal style? And I’m not talking against Arabs but against fellow Jews. Israeli bosses are notorious for withholding pay – you have to fight them for your money. Yet this is exactly what Gentiles have been complaining about Jews since forever! Tell me, why isn’t Sweden or Norway renowned for bosses who withhold pay and for a crazy confrontational style?

If you look into the biography of antisemites, starting with Voltaire, you will find that they’ve been cheated again and again by Jews, and at a certain point couldn’t avoid pattern-recognition.

I say all this not to spread hate against Jews – Jews are as much victims here. The problem is the pathological, materialistic, neurotic obsessed culture Jews grow up in that produces psychopathic behavior inevitably. This culture needs to be addressed within the Jewish community itself, or we will continue getting into trouble and wondering why everyone hates us. But I don’t see much hope of that happening – we prefer to blame others.

Right, WN’s are taking a page from the Jews. Often they are quite honest about doing so – Jews are not that smart, but over the centuries they’ve developed amoral and ruthless strategies that help them gain and keep power. If your goal is simply power and nothing else – not creativity, not art, not philosophy, not civilization – you can go to no better school than the Jews. Of course, these tactics are parasitic, and if everyone does them society collapses, but I don’t think WN’s figured that out yet.

And you’re right about NE Asians too – the “new” Jews. Pathological ambition also infects this group.

Renaiissance Italy did not, after all, flourish for very long. These kinds of behaviors undermine societies.

Donald Trump was mentored by Roy Cohn, a Jew of course, and Trump’s behavior is obviously Jewish in tone and affect to anyone who grew up in NYC. Trump is simply a symptom of Jewish tactics making their way into the Gentile world – and this was inevitable, but it’s tragic all the same.

But if you read Alt-Right and WN websites like Occidental Dissent they are quite explicit about using Jewish tactics. Kevin MacDonald writes extensively about Jewish tactics and how whites should adopt them.

Well, they are, and it’s just going to get worse.

Corporate Jews and “intellectual” academic Jews have a strong thuggish element to them – read some bios of these types. It comes from the upbringing – the way it woks is, an unbelievably intense pressure is created for you to “succeed” so that failure seems like a fate worse than death. This generates the psychic energy that fuels an insane amount of anger and an insanely tenacious clinging to whatever it is your doing. Your life – your psychic life – is literally on the line for every small victory, and the waves of sheer panic and self-hatred that begin to emerge at the prospect of even the tiniest defeat is huge motivation.

It’s a terrible way to live for everyone involved.

Cooperation and altruism can be very effective survival strategy. Psychopathy is very self-undermining – I’ve been stabbed in the back out of sheer envy when I could have been a useful ally. But the psychopath cannot handle it if anyone else has anything good. There is nothing adaptive about this.

And in the long run, this kind of behavior rebounds on you. Look at what happened to the Jews in Germany. Yet it didn’t have to go down like that. The Germans were insane, yes, but if the Jews didn’t do their usual thing do you imagine it would have went down quite like that?

And look at how Jews are busy undermining their own position in America by supporting Muslim immigration out of hatred for Christians.

Psychopathy has its own set of motivations and imperatives that have very little to do with maximizing success and fitness and a lot to do with satisfying pathological emotions that undermine you in the long run.

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Possibilities for Alt Left Alliance with Alt Right or Left Wing of the Alt Right Types

Tulio: I think at a certain point, a good number of the more moderate Trump voters will have buyer’s remorse when they see the results and those people could possibly be persuaded to vote a different way next time. We should be willing to bring them into the fold when they wake up. But as for the deplorable alt-right, well fuck them forever. They are irredeemable.

If they have buyer’s remorse over Trump, that is just fine, and I will welcome them back with open arms. I cannot believe how many friendships I ended of people I unfriended and blocked on Facebook over this. It’s never been that way with any past elections, ever. And I sort of need some of those people as sources for instance for this site. I keep thinking I should take a certain number of them back, but then I don’t do it. And all the ones I gave a break too pretty much came out as deplorables later.

I just had to throw two more or less Alt Right guys out of my group. I am increasingly doubting whether there can be an Alt Right/Alt Left alliance or even if I can ever ally with the Left Wing of the Alt Right. We are just too far apart on too many things. These guys are either White nationalists or flirting with the White nationalists. I am not against allying with certain White nationalist people, but it looks like the number of White nationalists I can ally with is about zero.

Also lately I have come out in strong support of Spencer getting punched and riots at antifa and Black Bloc demos. All those anywhere near the Alt Right really hate the antifa and the Black Bloc. No one worse in their book. I don’t like them much either, but I will ally with them against Trump if they will allow me to.

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Who Are the Antisemites in America?

Trash: Why are proles obsessed with Jews?

TJF: To Trash:

To the best of my knowledge your average White prole is not obsessed with Jews at all (and generally supports them especially if they are evangelical Christians..). In polls White gentiles have a better attitude towards Jews and Israel than Hispanics and Black… But, WN’s are definitely obsessed

Total Jew Face is absolutely correct. Your average prole in flyover country knows nothing whatsoever about Jews and cares nothing about them. Some of the fundamentalists may dislike Jews for not being Christians, but that’s not common at all.

The Whites who hate Jews are almost all the White racist types, especially the more extreme ones. The whole spiel about Jews programming us via the media comes from the White nationalists, Nazis, or whatever you want to call them.

I have no idea how people in cities feel about Jews either. Traditionally Old White Protestant money has disliked Jews.

My mother grew up around these people and every time I mention rich Whites and Jews, she says, “I know those people. I grew up with them. They don’t like Jews.”

She said the rich Whites mostly did not like Jews since they weren’t Christian. There was also a more rational attitude that Jews lie, cheat and steal and cannot be trusted.

There is very little antisemitism, organized or otherwise, in the US.

Now I am talking about the real deal antisemitism, the nasty stuff. I don’t have to describe it for you. You know it when I see it.

Of course Jews are paranoid victim addicts who are continuously scanning the world around them for signs that people hate them. Or dislike them. Or look at them wrong. Or think bad thoughts about them. Or whatever. Probably 80% of what silly Jews call antisemitism is nothing of the kind. These people are similar to those humans who always think everyone is out to get them even when they are not.

The notion that poor Whites or proles in rural areas, small towns or flyover country hate or even dislike Jews is very mistaken.

This notion of the commenter that poor trailer trash Whites hate Jews probably stems from a huge lie that the Jews themselves push:

Massive Jewish lie: The Jews say that everyone who hates or dislikes them in America dislikes them because they are losers. They are poor people who never went to college. They live in trailer parks. I remember when I was on Usenet Jewish and Israeli groups, all of the Jews believed in this lie 100%. This lie was made up by the Jews to trash their opponents as poverty-stricken losers and failures who blame the Jews for the failures in their lives. The Jews made up this stupid lie so they could feel better about themselves. Proof that most Jewish people are at least somewhat delusional lies in the fact that almost 100% of Jews actually believe this bullshit.

What’s the truth? Yes a subsection of White racists, mostly White nationalists, hates or dislikes Jews. But there is no evidence that White nationalists are poor, losers, failures, or anything like that. In fact, my perception after hanging out on American Renaissance for a long time was that White nationalists apparently all believe that they are rich and they think all other Whites are rich too. A number of them did seem to have some money or property. It was not unusual to see professors, schoolteachers, policemen, attorneys or physicians on there. You would be surprised at how many successful people are White racists and even White nationalists. There was also a very strong contempt for working class Whites on there. The hatred was so thick you could cut it with a knife. There was one guy on there named John Engleman who was pro working class. I believe he grew up in a coal mining family in West Virginia. He is widely hated on that site and the attitude there is extremely anti-worker, anti-union, anti poor Whites, etc. The mindset of White nationalists in the US is actually very elitist. It is not too different from commenter Trash’s own elitism.

These moronic anti-racists who peddle some retarded version of the Jews’ big fat lie need to go back to the drawing board. Most White racists in the US are not that way because they live in a trailer and have failed in life and want to blame someone. I would imagine that they have average to even above average incomes. Nor did most White racists learn their racism at their mother’s breast. Whites in the US seem to have become racist due to their experiences in life with Blacks and to a lesser extent Hispanics. Mostly they are appalled at the behavior of these groups, in particular the former.

 

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Alt Left: Renunciation of an Alt Left Wing

I am taking this opportunity to sadly renounce completely a wing of the Alt Left known as the Left Wing of the Alt Right.

Rabbit is probably the best known member of this wing, but he is actually one of the least offensive of them. In a way, I still like Rabbit a lot. His views on race are irrelevant to me, and his racial proposals are rather mild, mostly centering on reducing non-White immigration, which is actually not a bad idea.

True, he is a White nationalist, but he is a pretty mild one. He is more of a White separatist, and he emphatically states that he is opposed to throwing even one non-White out of the country. Instead he would like to find some uninhabited land somewhere to set up his White state. Or maybe make one in space. Or in Antarctica. This is how he thinks. He’s a bit out there you might say, but in a harmless and rather charming way.

Clearly he’s miles better than most all White nationalists, who are a pretty vicious breed.

I think Rabbit’s moderation stems from the fact that Rabbit is actually a liberal. He is a man of the Left. He is leftwing on almost all issues other than race. Other than on race, he’s as liberal or Left as I am. The Left is mostly about compassion and has a strong anti-racist bent. I can’t help but think that being on the Left all this time has affected Rabbit’s views, and this is why he is so mild and reasonable compared to the rest of his ilk. It’s just not like a leftwinger to be a vicious racist. And in fact, there are virtually no seriously racist people on the Left. I do know some racists with leftwing sympathies, but to a man, they all voted for Trump. Every single racist I know voted for Trump, even the ones who are practically socialists or even Communists. Race simply trumps everything else for these guys.

Also, Rabbit is the sole member of the Left Wing of the Alt Right who seems to be having buyer’s remorse over Trump. He stated on this site that the Trump honeymoon is over, and most of Trump’s Cabinet picks were pretty cringey. Of course! Who would find Trump’s Cabinet picks cringeworthy? Why, a liberal or leftwinger of course! Rabbit cannot help but notice that these Cabinet picks are catastrophic from a liberal or left point of view.

Trump is like your ultimate rightwing nightmare, Ronald Reagan on steroids. Trump is a radical rightwinger, and his Administration is already the most rightwing administration in maybe a century. Who was worse? Herbert Hoover? Trump is going to be much worse than his heir Reagan and he is already worse than George W. Bush, who committed election fraud to steal two elections in order to hold the Presidency for eight years.

The fact that Rabbit made these statements makes me feel good for him. His racial views are only a small part of his overall worldview. On everything else, he is quite to the left, in fact, he is even more leftwing than I am on some things. Like a true man of the Left, Rabbit is appalled by almost all of Trump’s nightmarish Cabinet picks.

However, most other folks on the Left Wing of the Alt Right continue to promote Trump. Abel Dean’s Alt Left group on Facebook is full of conservatives and Trump supporters. Even his top posters make posts bashing “progressives.” What? Silly rabbit, the Alt Left is progressive! When you bash progressives, you bash us, you idiot. As I have to reiterate endlessly for the terminally autistic, the Alt Left is a leftwing, progressive, liberal or Leftist movement. When you Alt Leftist fools attack liberals or the Left, you attack us! No Alt Leftist should ever attack the Left, progressives, liberals or Leftists. Any clown who does this is attacking himself.

 

Anyway, the Facebook Alt Left group is apparently the Left Wing of the Alt Right. There are a number of other folks calling themselves that. Fine. It’s a legitimate wing, one of the founding wings. However, 100% of the LWAR people are supporting Trump. Well, you cannot be in the Alt Left and support Trump. Nor may you support the US Republican Party. Nor may you support any US Republican for office, ever. If you do, you are out on your ass just like that. The #1 enemy of the Alt Left is the conservative movement in the US as embodied in Trump and the Republican Party. SJW gnats are far down on the list.

Until such time as the majority of this wing ceases support for Trump and better yet, soundly denounces him, I am officially renouncing this wing, and I want nothing to do with them until they quit acting up. Sadly, this includes Rabbit, but of all of the people on the LWAR, I have a small place in my heart set aside for him because I believe that in so many ways, his worldview is basically correct.

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Are Alt-Rightists Neo-Nazis?

Tulio: Is Spencer a Neo-Nazi? I know he’s a white nationalist, but are all white nationalists Neo-Nazi?

I enjoyed watching him get punched and then scurry away like a dog with his tail between his legs. It was amusing because these alt-right types are always talking about masculinity and being an alpha male, and then Spencer didn’t even put up a fight after he was punched and then ran away. He’s probably never been in a fist fight in his life. Yet people like him will go around calling everyone beta males and cucks. That was the amusing part to me.

Most White nationalists are indeed Nazis of one sort or another. Watch his speech at NPI on Youtube and tell me he’s not a Nazi. But they vary. Spencer just wants to throw you and the rest of the non-Whites and the Jews out of the country. Others want to kill the Jews. Some want to kill you guys too. Others simply want to secede and form their own White state. But even the pure separatists are basically Nazis.

So yeah, they’re mostly Nazis, but they don’t all go along with genocidal Nazism. They differ on how to deal with the folks they do not like. Most of them want to separate from non-Whites, but a sizeable faction wants to throw non-Whites out of the country. The faction around Daily Stormer are actually out and out Nazis who call for killing the Jews in America among other things. I am not sure what the DS types want for the non-Whites.

I wrestled with this for a long time because their whole line is that only a few of them are actual Nazis, and most of them are not. After a long examination, I finally figured out that that was a lie.

There are a few Jewish Alt Rightists, and I assure you that they are not Nazis. They sort of go easy on the antisemites and Nazis though which is hard to understand.

If they are not out and out Nazis, they do want some form of National Socialism especially if they have some left economic views, which are actually not that uncommon. The DS crowd seems to want National Socialism, they are quite dubious of capitalism and it seems like they do not like the White rich at all. I hate to say it but DS is almost a pro-worker movement. Pro White workers, sure, but pro-workers nevertheless.

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Why Is Alt-Right Called the “Alt” Right? Is There an “Alt-Left”?

Question asked on Quora. Here are some of the answers:

The Alt-Right is properly the Alternative Right. It refers to a loose collection of dissident groups and intellectuals who have either been kicked out of, or have little interest in, the mainstream right as represented by the Republican Party, National Review, and Fox News.

Is there an Alt-Left? Yes. There is a Race-Realist Left centered around AltLeft.com.

This is probably the best answer of them all. And he does call out Rabbit’s site, which is very nice.

The Alt Right is an extremely loose movement, made up of different strands of people connected to white supremacy. One body of adherents is the ostensibly “intellectual” racists who create many of the doctrines and principles of the white supremacist movement. They seek to attract young educated whites to the movement by highlighting the achievements and alleged intellectual and cultural superiority of whites.

They run a number of small white supremacist enterprises that include think tanks, online publications and publishing houses. These include Radix and Washington Summit Publishers, both run by Richard Spencer; Counter Currents Publishing, run by Greg Johnson; American Renaissance, run by Jared Taylor; and The Right Stuff, a political and social blog with a number of contributors.

Another strand of the Alt Right consists of younger racists savvy with social media and Internet communications. In recent months, a number of these Alt Righters have promoted Donald Trump’s* presidential bid, seeing the populist candidate as someone tougher than so-called “cuckservatives,” thanks to his controversial stands on issues ranging from immigration to Muslims in America.

Alt Righters like to try to use terms such as “culture” as substitutes for more lightning rod terms such as “race,” or promote “Western Civilization” as a code word for white culture or identity. They do not make explicit references to white supremacy like the “14 words” a slogan used by Neo-Nazis and other hardcore white supremacists. The “14 words” refers to the expression, “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.” Even though Alt Righters share the sentiment behind the “14 words” they’re more inclined to talk about preserving European-American identity.

This is an excellent answer, although he does not mention the Alt Left. Is it not true though that there are some nonracist parts of the Alt Right such as the HBDsphere and the Manosphere?

Hillary Clinton started calling everyone who opposed her alt-right and now the fake news story about some fake alt right news story is the ammo the censors need/want to censor sites like Breitbart, InfoWars with some legit fake sites sprinkled in. Welcome to censorship part 2 in America. One person’s fake news (insert something like man made global warming or how awesome Trump is here) is another’s truth (insert something like man made global warming or how awesome Trump is here as well.) People should be able to read whatever they want and decode if it’s real or fake or propaganda or not. Don’t need our government becoming like China in this regard.

Edit: There is a real Alt Left & Right.

Alt Left and Alt Right agree on many things like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trumps platform of what’s wrong with America they differ in how you want it fixed.

The first paragraph is completely idiotic, along with the pointless and insane use of the disgusting term “fake news.” Butt the next two paragraphs are at least somewhat correct, although the number of Alt-Rightists who supported Sanders must be very small.

It is an alternative to traditional rightwing conservatives. They are less religious and more socially conservative. They care far less about taxes and are fighting the Regressive Left.

This is correct, although I am really getting sick and tired of the Regressive Left phrase. It’s time to put this crap phrase in the trash can where it belongs. At one time it meant something, but now it’s turning into poison, and idiotic poison at that. The main problem with this phrase is that it is absolutely senseless. I do not see the point in parroting slogans that are completely senseless and irrational right on their face.

There currently is no Alt Left. Although many leftists have fled the Regressive Left into the Alt Right.

The first sentence is not true. And there is that horrible Regressive Left phrase again. I am wondering how many Leftists or even liberals did indeed flee the Regressive Left for the Alt Right. Rabbit seems like one. Were there others?

Alt-Right is a self-selected title which their members started using to distance themselves from the Republican Party

This is straight up correct.

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Israelis Have Managed to Drive Hundreds of Millions of Their Nearest Neighbors to Near Homicidal Hatred of Them

Barack Thatcher: Robert, I am not criticizing the Palestinians.

I’m just saying logically, assuming the Jews aren’t going anywhere could protect them by taking them out of the range of Israeli missiles; taking them into the Gulf nations or wherever.

The problem is that it’s about hatred of the Jews (whether right or wrong), not a pragmatic defense of the Jews.

The Jews aren’t going anywhere.

I was just saying why not actually look for a pragmatic solution for this instead of idealistically holding out and waiting to right the wrongs of 40 years ago?

It was 70 years ago.

Israel does not generally shoot missiles or even drop bombs on Palestinian areas in the Gaza and West Bank. Sometimes they bomb some Hamas training camp in response to a rocket attack. The rocket attacks these days are never even done by Hamas. They are done by more radical groups, and Hamas does not approve of shooting rockets at Israel. But Israel says its Hamas’ fault whenever some nignog shoots a rocket!

When the battles in Syria carry over into the Golan via stray bullets, mortars or whatever, the Israelis will shell or bomb the Syrian Army in response! Israel says it is the Syrian government’s fault whenever the shooting war accidentally carries over to Gaza. Syria just has to sit there and let Israel shoot missiles and drop bombs on it all the time because if they shoot one bullet in response, Israel says they will level Syria. They bomb Lebanon all the time too, and they constantly fly jets over Lebanon to harass the Lebanese. Lebanon cannot do anything about it because if they shoot one bullet, Israel says they will turn Lebanon into Carthage. Lebanese hate Israel so much that to this day, Israel and Lebanon are still officially at war. No peace treaty or armistice was ever signed and of course Lebanon has no relations with Israel at all.

The Israelis are scum. I have nothing but the most sheer utmost hate for them. I wish they would just disappear of the planet. Israel is one of the most evil nations on Earth. I cheer whenever some Arab kills some of them. They deserve it.

They’re bullies. They’re not victims at all. They are the biggest bullies in the whole planet, and they scream all the time that they are the biggest victims on the planet. Bullies always do this. Bullies always say they are victims and they blame the person they are bullying, claiming that the victim attacked the bully first when that never happens. The bully attacks the victim, and then when the victim fights back, the bully screams, “You are an evil aggressor maniac attacking poor peaceful me for no reason.”

And then they retaliate against the victim even more because it drives bullies insane with hate whenever their victims start fighting back. I am not sure why that is, but maybe they see it as a “slave rebellion” of some sort.  Look at how harsh slave rebellions (rebellions of the victims) were put down by slaveholders (the bullies). Israel follows the exact same bully-victim paradigm that plays out in the day to day world among individuals.

Now I could pretty much care less about Jews in the Diaspora because to me they’re not the problem. Those scumbags squatting in Palestine are the problem. Sure some Diaspora Jews strongly support Israel, but most secular American Jews can hardly care less about the place. I have known many Jews and I had a Jewish girlfriend for many years. She and a number of other Jews acted like Israel was a huge headache that they wished would go away. They also said that Israel was full of Orthodox Jews, and you have no idea how many hate secular Jews have for those Ultra-Orthodox ones. They hate them! I do not know if the feeling is mutual. Most people are not aware of this intra-Jewish strife.

So the Jews who are the issue are the ones over in Palestine. These ones here are not squatting in Palestine, so I have no issues with them. I also do not really care about many of the criticisms of Diaspora Jews laid out by anti-Semites. The main arguments of the antisemites seem to rightwing or even reactionary in nature. A lot of antisemitism is coming from White racism or White Supremacism/White Nationalism.

I could care less what Jews think of White Gentiles and I doubt if Jews are the enemies of the Whites. Frankly, I would rather be ruled by the Jewish rich than by the US Gentile rich. See that Trump Administration? That’s what the Gentile rich act like in this country. The Jewish rich are not exactly wonderful people and the New York Times Jews make me ill, but I would much rather be ruled by Mr. Sulzberger than Mr.Trump. For an elite group, rich Jews are markedly leftwing. In fact, rich Jews may be one of the most progressive groups of rich elites on Earth.

The Israelis are the worst bullies on Earth. Everyone in the region absolutely hates them. All the Sunnis factions and all the Shia factions hate them, and some of those Shia factions are barely even Muslims. Hell, even the Druze hate them! The Druze in Syria, the Golan and Lebanon despise Israel.

A lot of Middle Eastern Christians are not wild about Islam, but a lot of them hate Israel too. This idiot Ted Cruz gave a speech to the Christian Arab Association of America. Perhaps he said something about Muslims. Those Christians might not be real wild about Muslims but they do not usually hate them as much as your average Trumpster Republican. I have known Christian Arabs from Palestine, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Iran. Most of them did not have much to say against Muslims, but they all (except for some Lebanese Maronites) hated Israel in a huge way.

Cruz made some mention of Israel saying something like our great friends in Israel, and the whole place turned into a mob scene. They stood up and booed him for whole minutes, and they nearly chased him off the stage to where he would have had to end the speech prematurely. Cruz had ignorantly thought that since Arab Christians were not wild about Muslims that they must like Jews like most US evangelicals, but he was sorely mistaken.

My local store got taken over by Syrian Christians and they hate Israel. I mean they hate hate hate hate hate hate hate them. They don’t say anything bad about Muslims and in fact they work alongside Yemeni Muslims right now. And those are Christians! If the Christians hate Israel that much, can you imagine how much Muslims must hate them. There are quite a few Commie atheist Arabs, especially Palestinians, Iraqis and Lebanese. I used to know some of them. They probably hate Israel more than anyone!Most of them were Arab nationalists and Arab nationalists hate Israel as much as the Islamists. I used to know an Iranian Assyrian Christian woman. In fact, I dated her for a bit. She basically hated Muslims for good reason. But she hated Israel just as much! She hated Israel. And she didn’t like Jews too much either. She was a bit of an antisemite. I knew a Syrian Christian once who was a wild, raving antisemite. I mean he sounded like a Nazi.

Even non-Arab Muslims hate Israel. I have heard that Turks really despise them and for some reason, I have heard that a lot of Greeks hate Israel too, maybe because there are Greek Orthodox Christians over there. Inside Israel itself, even the Arab Christians do not like Israel. The Greek Orthodox Priest of Jerusalem named Father Hanna used to praise Hamas and cheer for suicide bombings. I knew a Pakistani woman whose hatred of Israel was off the charts and he was an extreme antisemite to boot.

No Iranians like Israel. Even the secular Iranian nationalists who despise Arabs and Islam and claim to be Zoroastrians if they are religious at all have an extreme hatred of Israel. And a lot of them don’t like Jews either – the ones I knew were serious antisemites. I knew an Moroccan Muslim woman, relatively secular, who was always posting stuff about the Palestinians.

I knew an Egyptian Muslim man who told me that there would have to be another war to take out Israel once and for all. During the Arab Spring, at one  point a huge mob attacked the Israeli Embassy in Cairo. The Israelis were spirited out of there soon enough, but the riot went on for most of the day, and at the end, the embassy had been burnt to the ground. And I was told that many of those attacking the embassy were secular Arab Spring anti-Mubarak types, not radical Muslims at all.

Nobody likes those people! They’ve acted like such scumbags since they set up shop there that they are managed to earn the near-homicidal hatred of almost all of the hundreds of millions of neighbors for quite a few miles around.

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Amren Talks about Me

New article on the Anti-Anti-White Left, a follow-up to a previous article on the same theme, discusses me, Rabbit and some other Lefties and liberals writing along somewhat the same lines that liberalism and the Left has to quit beating up White workers, calling them names and lecturing them about privilege.

From the piece:

2) There is some confusion about the term “alt-left.”

Among racially conscious whites, “alt-left” refers to the handful of race realists who also support leftist policies such as the welfare state and gun control. There are a few websites dedicated to their ideas, such as Robert Lindsay’s blog and AltLeft.com.

Outside of these circles, “alt-left” means something else. Once Hillary Clinton promoted the term “alt-right,” pro-Clinton writers began using “alt-left” to smear other leftist writers—generally pro-Sanders people—who criticized Mrs. Clinton’s derision of Trump supporters or her focus on identity politics. In short, “alt-left” is a Clintonite smear of what I am calling the anti-anti-white left.

The first two paragraphs are correct, but the third is completely wrong. But oh well.

One piece points out that while Trump did not offer laid-off Rust Belt workers much, Hillary offered them absolutely nothing at all other “retraining.” Retraining has been the go-to liberal solution to globalization and horrific trade deals by neoliberal Democrats like the Clintons and Obama for decades now. It didn’t work back then, and it’s not working now. For one thing, it appears that this retraining was never even implemented. For another thing, it is dubious if it will ever be implemented, especially in this climate. More importantly,  saying “We are going to retrain all the workers fired by these horrible trade deals,” is just liberal handwaving and virtue signaling. How bout never throwing them out of their jobs in the first place? How bout that?

Clintonian Democrat: “Hey, we are going to throw all you White people out of your good-paying jobs so the top 10% of the population can get even richer, but don’t worry, we will retrain you to do something else, like, um…I dunno? But don’t worry! We love you! Don’t forget to vote Democrat!”

White worker: “Why are you throwing me out of work to enrich one of my class enemies in the first place though? Whose side are you on anyway? Are you on the side of me or my class enemies? Make up your mind.”

Clintonian Democrat: Bla bla neoliberalism, bla bla free markets, bla bla failed socialism, bla bla socialist failure, bla bla the budget deficit, bla bla trade deals are good for consumers, bla bla the world is changing, bla bla you can’t run away from globalization, bla bla globalization is great and helps build strong bodies 12 different ways, bla bla didn’t you know that.

Bla bla of course you are our friends, bla bla but the rich are our friends too, bla bla these are wealth creator, bla bla these are the people who give you your jobs, bla bla what are you racist or something, bla bla protectionism doesn’t work, bla bla protectionism caused the Great Depression lie, bla bla we have to get hip and get with the program, bla bla we are part of a globalized world now there is no avoiding that.

Bla bla free trade deals are good for the “economy”, bla bla trade deals are good for “economic growth,” bla bla trade deals are good for the stock market, bla bla most people are now invested in the stock market, bla bla mom and pop investors, bla bla most workers are investors now through their 401K’s and pensions, bla bla the stock market is about all of us, bla bla we all get hurt when the stock market goes down,

Bla bla financialization is the future, bla bla FIRE industry is the future, bla bla sell debt and get rich, bla bla destroy companies for no reason and get rich, bla bla fire lots of workers and get rich, bla bla why don’t you go back to school, bla bla anyone can get rich, bla bla Horatio Alger, bla bla the American Way, the business of America is business, bla bla automation is killing your jobs not trade deals.

If you lost your job to an illegal that shows you’re a loser lol, bla bla you are all deplorable White people, bla bla check your privilege, bla bla vote for us we are for women, bla bla vote for us we are for gay people, bla bla vote for us we are for trannies and every other freak,  bla bla vote for us we are for Hispanics, bla bla vote for us we are for illegals, bla bla vote for us we are for immigrants, bla bla vote for us support diversity, bla bla vote for us support Black Lives Matter, bla bla don’t be racist now, bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.

White worker: Bye, you’re not even talking to me. Trump’s awful, but at least he’s talking to me. Maybe what he’s selling won’t work, but you aren’t selling me a thing. So I’m voting for Trump. I may be a fool, but I’m not an idiot.

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