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Some Possible Policies for Improving the Black Problem in the US

Some Random Asshole: Robert, what James said her excellently represents the rational and fair view on race. Yeah, there are quite a few more feeble minded and uncivilized ones and really not that many smart ones among Blacks or Mexicans when compared to Whites or Asians, but there are exceptions everywhere. And even the fucked up ones are often not that bad and just need some guidance and welfare or something, even if they wont amount to much in life. Didn’t you think as much when you taught at Black schools?

The only thing is, you need to realize that we really just do not need to increase their numbers and its very important for us to stay majority White and Asian and stop certain groups from immigrating here. Its no offense to the other groups, they should be treated with respect and care…but at the same time, its ultimately disastrous to increase their numbers to the point where they become the majority. Its a fair balance, I think.

Treat them nice but do not bring in any more. Both ideas are crucial to the survival of civilized society.

You are new to the site, right? I have been arguing this fact for a long time now. I do not care too much about Mexicans, but Blacks definitely are a problem race. Now you ask me what I propose to do about that?

Honestly I am not sure if this is much that can be done!

Support Black politics. I love the Black Congressional Caucus. That’s one of my favorite groups in government. I love John Lewis. The legislation that the Blacks like and promote in Congress is reasonable, and support most all of it. Keep on doing that.

Keep on fighting real racism against Blacks because that just makes them even angrier, crazier and more hair-triggered than they already are.

I would even like to figure out why they are so damned violent and maybe give them a pill or something to lower their testosterone levels perhaps and calm them down. Liberals go start raving berserk when I say that. They scream, “Tuskegee! Tuskegee! Tuskegee! Tuskegee! Tuskegee!” I would make it voluntary of course. Say you are a Black man and you keep getting in trouble, keep acting violent, keep going to jail or prison, can’t control your temper or your impulses. Maybe you start figuring that your biology might be screwing up your life and you are getting tired of being a loser. Maybe some of these Blacks might take some pill we could make that caused them to lash out and screw up so much. What’s wrong with that? Why am I evil for saying that?

And of course, number one really, quit importing them, dammit. If you have a problem group of people, first of all, you quit bringing in even more of them and making the problem bigger.

However, I would allow anyone of any race with say a minimum 100 IQ to come to the US. I do not anticipate a big problem with this. If a 100 IQ Black or Hispanic wishes to come here, I do not see why we should not let him in.

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Explain My Enemies’ Criticism of Me Here

See if you can understand how their criticism of the post below me even makes sense.

First, the post:

Rightwing economics is a marker for White racism. Where you find rightwing economics, you often but not always find White racism. Sure, a lot of economic leftwingers are soft racists, but the more rightwing the person’s economics, the more they move out of the softer stuff into the harder stuff. Similarly, the more economically left the person is, the less racist they are. You could almost plot these things on a chart!

White racism is a marker for rightwing economics. Where you find White racism, you nearly always, 95%+ of the time, find rightwing economics.

I recently spent some time on Chimpout, one of the funniest racist sites on the Internet. If I’m in a nasty mood, it’s funny, but if I’m in a Black-sympathetic mood or guilty mood (like “Wow I am really a terrible person for being at this awful, mean, racist website), most of the humor just bombs on me.

My latest excursion was instructive. I read through a thread stretching 100’s of pages. Every single American on there was a virulent anti-Black racist, as that’s all they will allow on the site. And every single one of those virulently anti-Black Americans was a conservative who voted Republican.

Over and over, they equated liberals with niggers* and nigger-lovers. The Democratic Party is the Party of the Niggers and the Nigger-loving Liberals. Endlessly, posters openly stated that the Republican Party is the party to support if you hate niggers. I don’t think I saw one person voting Democratic in that entire thread.

So almost 100% of serious White racists are voting Republican or some other rightwing party and supporting some kind of rightwing economics.

We see this even among Blacks, where there are now some race realist Blacks out there. Some are even socking it to their own kind, calling them genetically inferior. Once again, all of these Blacks are Black conservatives or Black Republicans. Some are Black Libertarians. Once again, it seems to be a marker. The more race realist the Black is, the more they support rightwing economics. It’s a dose-effect response that you could almost plot on a curve, just like with Whites.

*They don’t allow the use of “Black” or other terms for African-Americans on Chimpout. You are only allowed to call them “niggers.” Violation results in a ban. Damn that’s funny as Hell! If you refuse to call Black people niggers, we will ban you! LOL! Such funny fellows. Mean as snakes, but damn is that funny.

Next, their dumbass criticism, which makes no sense at all.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Someone linked this guy earlier in the thread, and wow, what a brilliant visionary https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com…/beta-uprising/

Study after study… which I won’t link

EDIT: Also in regards to the Kierkegaard thinghttps://robertlindsay.wordpress.com…and-vice-versa/

This reeks of “I compartmentalize minorities between Good Ones and Bad Ones (aka Uppity ones)

Goon Danton: It reeks of something, I’ll grant you that much.

quote:

I recently spent some time on Chimpout, one of the funniest racist sites on the Internet. If I’m in a nasty mood, it’s funny, but if I’m in a Black-sympathetic mood, most of the humor just bombs on me.

Isn’t that a retarded criticism? Read the article. The article notes that racism almost always links up with rightwing economics, politics and voting Republican, whereas racists almost to a man feel that voting Democrat is voting for the niggers and the nigger lovers. Even among Blacks, as they get more and more race realist or even racist against their own kind, they all start going Republican or Libertarian.

Ok this SJW turd just said that my post above which links racism to rightwing economics and politics is “diving minorities up into good ones and bad or uppity ones.” Can anyone see how on Earth I am saying that?

Anyway, I don’t care about uppity Blacks or uppity niggers or whatever you want to call them. MLK is one of my heroes. I even love Malcolm X (post renunciation of anti-White racism). There is even some love in me for the early Black Panthers. In fact, I rather like the Panthers to this very day. Huey Newton was an all right guy. Eldridge Cleaver was a bastard but he moved to North Africa and turned into a good man, so as a Christian, I forgive him. I loved Obama being the first Black president and cried when he got elected. I voted for him twice. My only beef with him is that he’s too rightwing. I really like that advisor of his, Van Jones.

My heroes are Malcolm X, Huey Newton, the Panthers, Malcolm X and Barack Obama, yet I am a vicious anti-Black racist? How does that even make sense?

Uppity Blacks are fine with me. Black people ought to be uppity. All people ought to have pride and dignity and refuse to grovel before others. I don’t see how the post above divides Blacks into good obedient Blacks and bad or uppity Blacks. I’m not getting it. My critics are all insane.

The next clown is a typical no-fun liberal. I’m evil because I went to a racist website. It is a racist humor website albeit with a vicious undercurrent.

I committed the ultimate sin of laughing at some of those jokes because, damn, they were so bloody funny! So I am a bad, evil, low-life, dirty racist scum of a human, a KKK White Supremacist White Nationalist Nazi because I laughed at some racist humor written by some nasty people.

Does that make me an evil racist? If I laugh at a racist joke, am I the same as Davide Duke, Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin? We’re all the same. We all want to hang them niggers and gas those damn kikes. No sense of nuance. These people truly earn the appellation of libtards.

So these are the SJW’s. This is the Left. This is liberalism. This is why almost everyone on the Left hates my guts and insists I am not on the Left and instead I am a far Rightist.

I just got banned from (((Daily Kos))). It was one of my favorite sites but once I started posting, they banned me right off. Every one of those liberal Democrat losers on there has swallowed every dram of that idiotic Assad Chemical Weapons Attack story. This is so obviously Iraqi WMD’s all over again, with the same, ahem, (((people))) that promoted the last lie now shamefully promoting this lie too. Some liberal Democrat loser wrote about how eeeeeevil AssadPutin or PutinAssad, I forget which, dropped chemical weapons on babies. Then he threw in some oh-so-liberal McCarthyite Cold War barbs at the Font of Evil called Russia.

I think I wrote a comment asking him if the capital of his country was Washington DC or Tel Aviv. It was immediately flagged as anti-Semitism (except it was anti-Israelism, not anti-Semitism), and I was permanently banned almost instantly. You just can’t say one peep about ahem (((certain people))) on there. After all, why do you think it’s called (((Daily Kos))) in the first place?

This is pretty typical. Most liberal to Left sites have either banned me or have made bans on posting to me. I was getting a lot of hits from uber-liberal Reddit until they starting flipping on my content and said Reddit should stop linking to me. My hits from Reddit crashed.

I know I said we should ally with SJW’s against Trump but the problem is that I want to kill 95% of SJW’s with my bare hands. They seem to feel the same way
about me.

Stark, Rabbit and Ryan England had a radio show in which they discussed my proposal.

Rabbit said, “Look, no matter how hard Lindsay tries to suck up to these people and say he’s not be racist and whatnot, they will always hate him, and they never accept him or stop calling him racist. Lindsay can’t win with these folks.”

Sadly I think he is onto something. I should link to that podcast.

So we want to murder each other on sight with our bare hands, and yet we are going to form this great alliance. I don’t think so.

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How Leftwingers View Me and This Site

Alex: Why don’t you have the balls to admit you are a Nazi? Why even pretend to be Leftist and use euphemisms like Alt Left and insult real Leftists using derisive terms. It seems even blatant neo-Nazis are better than a pretender like you. Change the avatar to Hitler, and be honest. Stop using those silly quotes and calling yourself a Leftist. You are an embarrassment to Marxism.

Actually I do not like Nazis at all. They’re killers and mass murderers, genocidal maniacs. The Hell with that! I had a Jewish girlfriend for 5 1/2 years. I was seriously thinking about converting to Judaism recently, but modern Judaism seems to tied up in Israel that I am dubious whether I should do this. If they could sever Israel from Judaism like the gangrenous tissue that it is, I would have no problem converting. I would be one of those evil self-haters like Chomsky though. That would be such a kick. Plus then the parentheses around my name would be real! Wow, that would feel so great!

I do not like White Supremacists or White Nationalists that much, although guys like Rabbit are tolerable. They all voted Trump this time around, so I ended every friendship I had with these types. I simply do not agree with being this racist. It’s not ok. And a White state is absurd. The Hell with saving the White race. Who cares!

This is about it. I get mails like this from these guys just about every day. Most liberals react about the same way. Honestly, leftwingers hate me much more than conservatives. I am actually banned from some major liberal websites and at others, there are even bans on linking to me. These tend to be sites run by the base of the ((((Democratic Party))).

Conservatives’ politics are horrific, but mostly they are quite nice to me and a lot of them are very pleasant people, politics aside. Quite a few of them have been very friendly to me, especially Alt Right types. I’m not really wild about racists and Nazis, but at least they are pleasant. Conservatives are generally much nicer to me than leftwingers. Leftwingers generally believe I need to be shot or put in a gulag.  That’s probably true, but I’d prefer to avoid the NKVD for the remainder of my life if I could.

This is actually one of the flagship Alt Left sites. Rabbit and I pretty much founded the movement. Rabbit takes the race thing a lot further than I do, but I am critical of the Sexual Anarchy crowd and Gender Feminism. Rabbit thinks Gay Rights is getting out of hand now too, and he doesn’t like feminazis much either, but he’s into the race thing a lot deeper than I am. I am just a race realist, and I don’t even talk about that very much.

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Poland Talks Alt Left! Polish Left Political Journal Discusses the Alt Left movement with a Focus on My and Rabbit’s Writing

Here is the piece in the original Polish, and here is the English version for those of my readers too dumb to read Polish.

RACIAL REALISM, WHICH LEFT CENTRIST IN CULTURAL MATTERS

MICHAL SMOLEN
Columnist “Respublica Nowa”.
Social Philosophy and Innovation.

March 13, 2017

Two marginal racist bloggers from the US received Laurka in the the pages of a leftwing magazine.

Beautifully we differ on the left. Each of the left-wing circles reaches a different audience and offers a slightly different overview of the situation. So let’s rise above not very transparent for outsiders divisions, often rooted in long-standing conflicts personnel, and track the full range of left-wing press – from the liberal center-left to the environment very radical. Niezgoda is natural, and sometimes creative ferment. Sometimes, however, there is disappointment over a hard move to the agenda.

Niezgoda is natural, and sometimes creative ferment. Sometimes, however, there is disappointment over a hard move to the agenda.

RAGE

It got off to an interesting start:

Homegrown Leftists Criticize the Vistula Backwater for Failing to See the Latest Leftwing Trends from the Homeland of the World’s Creative Class

begins an article about the “Alt Left” written by Dr. Hab. Jaroslaw Tomasiewicz which appeared in New Citizen, a Polish leftwing social justice magazine. I regard foreign influences as inevitable and often useful, so naturally I was interested in this new leftwing movement outside the mainstream which has so far escaped my attention.

After today often encountered failure characteristics “Hipster-Left”, focused on easy wojenkach culture, the author writes about the new collective actor on the political scene, “The Alt Right – a rebirth of the “Old Hard Right” – ethnopolitical, traditionalist, populist – in a new postmodern form. A sort of return to the roots. And the Alt Right managed to overcome the Mainstream Left on its own home turf: to win the support or the workers by emphasizing economics and de-emphasizing cultural issues. Think a somewhat obsolete Thomas Frank.

A flashing red light at this point heralds a warning. Did Donald Trump really gain the support of part of the White working class through the efforts of the teenage racist trolls under the leadership of Richard Spencer – the elegant (at least when not performing a Seig Heil), erudite, and informal leader of the Alt Right?

You are probably thinking of the Centrist Democrats so disliked by Tomasiewicz. It seems however that the notion that the anti-elitist mood of working class Trump voters (many of whom supported Obama in the past) was powered by the notions of the Alt Right leader Spencer is not only factually questionable but also overly bleak in that it elides the appeal of Trump to a section of the electorate steeped in US nationalism. Or perhaps this is just a problem of the Old Left?

Tomasiewicz :

Some believe that the challenge posed by the Alt Right requires a symmetrical response: the creation of an alternative to the Mainstream Left emphasizing the forgotten foundations of Leftism, such as the primacy of economics over culture, the relationship of the base to the superstructure, and a return to the Marxian thesis that ‘existence shapes consciousness.’

Next there is a quote from a manifesto from “Alternative Left” writer Robert Lindsay proclaiming,

We will be leftwing on economic matters […] but rather Centrist in the sphere of culture.

Tomasiewicz later cites another vague point in Lindsay’s manifesto of the Alternative Left. This vision paints a picture of the Social Democratic movement distanced from the alleged excesses of Cultural Left, materialistic in the old style, although “small and diverse” – which, although it should not be imitated in the dark (we as Poles have common sense), nevertheless deserves our at least with fingers crossed.

RACIAL REALISM

So what’s wrong with this picture? More than you’d expect. The author refers to two online sources for information about the Alt Left, and clicking on either of them reveals some rather disturbing content. The Altleft.com site notes at the top of the page that it is The Left Wing of the Alt Right. Nothing dziwnegi therefore that it is enough time to go through the lengthy scraps to find the few real gems. In the text quoted by Tomasiewicz, we find this passage:

Though I disagree with him on some ideological points…It just so happens that I support Richard Spencer and repeatedly defended him when some oversensitive (and often sanctimonious) factions or some prominent individuals of the AltRight unsuccessfully tried to sacrifice him to improve the image of the movement.

In another text by the author of the site (who goes by the pseudonym “Rabbit”) in response to an appeal to downplay the racial aspect of the Alternative Left brand, he said:

The Alt Left always been about race realism and gender realism. This is the whole fucking nail on the head!

What is race realism? It’s the familiar old and frightening idea that believes in biological differences between “races” of people, eg. in terms of IQ, which it stipulates as very important for races to gain social or political significance. AltLeft.com openly promotes White Nationalism, and at the same time is quite honest, which clearly shows in the title of one of his posts talking about the “unreality” of nonracist “race realism”. The post notes the hypocrisy of the supposedly nonracist race realists and asks a rhetorical question:

“What’s wrong with hatred anyway?”

What of the second author of the Alternative Left manifesto commented on by Tomasiewicz? Robert Lindsay is a prolific blogger who refers to himself as a “liberal race realist” (the title of his previous ideological project), who rejects Political Correctness and “Cultural Marxism” and in their stead proposes “positive White identity” and masculinity for men (to fight Gender Feminism and Radical Feminism).

Once again though – it is not difficult to see where Lindsay is really coming from. Although in the manifesto quoted by Tomasiewicz, Lindsay rejects “racist fascism”, it begins with an attack on the Black Lives Matter movement and ridicules people who talk about White privilege or have an “obsession about structural racism.”

According to Lindsay, to belong to Alt Left, one should accept “racial realism”, which is the three pillars of Alt Left ideology – the other two are leftwing views on economics, to which Lindsay moreover dedicates little space, and a special form of moral libertinism who boils down to formally supporting the basic rights of minorities combined with a gut hatred against the movements that are fighting for those very rights.

Lindsay seems to be less directly hateful – and more eccentric – than Rabbit, but his journalism nevertheless includes discussions about the abominations of gay sexual practices, alleged reasons why women cannot lead Western civilization, and complaints about aggressive and obnoxious “Jewy Jews” who are themselves responsible for anti-Semitism.

As for the Alt Left, this is all we need to know about it right here. Tomasiewicz refers only to Lindsay and the author of a blog about the “Left Wing of Alt Right” because that’s all there is to the “Alternative Left.” Otherwise, the concept still appears occasionally as a rhetorical device in journalism, primarily as an insult. So the entirety of this new and noteworthy movement is a small group of readers of two marginal blogs that are attempting to enrich the standard White Nationalism of the AltRight with an aversion to neoliberalism and a promotion of anti-feminist libertarianism (the latter being merely a rejecting the traditionally conservative views of women).

LEFT PRIEST JOHN

The detailed reasons why this leftwing website published a fictitious Laurka for a couple of some marginal racists in the chronicle New Citizen are not something that should concern readers. Suffice to say that it is difficult to believe in the sincerity of the author, who was after all the one who first discovered the quoted texts of these bloggers. Why did he go out of his way to ferret out these marginal bloggers? Nevertheless, I do not think however that one could accuse the editor-in-chief of tolerance for “race realism,” nor is the readership enthusiastic about this concept.

The case recalls to me deeper concerns regularly buzzing discussing some Polish Left intellectuals dislike for the “Left of manners.” Often it is not so much about the same demands as to their alleged incompatibility of the conservative expectations of the people, of the people, by which after all had left in this whole walk. These charges are often simply unfair – when Manifa passed under the banner of radical równościowymi also in the economic sphere, this did not prevent duplication of repeated years of lies about the concentration of the whole feminist movement solely on the alleged “obyczajówce.”

For this often based on fantasies – Maciej Gdula in Political Critique accurately dismantling the idea of conservatism of the people, shared by anti-elitist liberals as well as a current anti-elitist Left. A plea to leave the Left only about the workers and to reject helping different minorities seems particularly unfair when he turns attention to the development in recent years of leftwing movements and characters (like Total in Poland or Bernie Sanders in the US), fully and harmoniously integrating “cultural issues” and “economics”.

The spectacular defeat as a positive reception of the text of the “Alternative Left” brings to light another problem. This article published in the New Citizen is the modern equivalent of the medieval legend about the state ruled by Father John, a Christian enclave which was kept somewhere in the distant Orient.

This is reflected in anecdotes written by various intellectuals, otherwise as different as Remigiusz Okraska, Stephen Twardoch and David Wildstein, that the notion of the good old people who do not care about newfangled oddities is every year moving further from reality.

The text Tomasiewicz, in which the role of Father John played the companion Richard Spencer, stands out as an apology for some particularly nasty and in the Polish context completely unacceptable notions (perhaps even ONR does not admit openly to the biological racism). We have only to barely scrape the surface of almost any “morally Centrist” manifesto’s  concern for ordinary people to see the usual hatred and disgust for the selected disadvantaged groups – sometimes consciously, often probably not. In this situation, to put on a mask of folk naiveté seems to be at best frivolous and at worst insincere and wicked, which did not approve of even calling yet to openly present their views of Rabbit of AltLeft.com.

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New Facebook Group – The Original Alt Left

I just created my own Alt Left FacebookThe Original Alt Left – group, not out of vanity but because one of my comrades asked me to form my own group and offered to be the moderator.

The Alt Left has become a brand name now, and most of the wings are getting pretty far away from the original values and manifestos as written by Rabbit, me, Ryan England and a few others.

They are either full of conservatives, spending all their time fighting SJW’s, or worst of all, somewhat less insane versions of SJW’s. A lot of others have taken a very hard line against Left economics and are proposing Keynesianism and social democracy instead. Nothing wrong with that, but the original idea was that the Alt Left should be open to consider all forms of Left economics. We are not anti-Communists! Leave that crap to the Right.

The original Alt Left was also quite a bit more socially conservative that most of the present wings.

In addition, the Alt Left as envisioned by Rabbit and me was to be a place where anything could be discussed and any sacred cows could be gored. As such it was race realist, gender realist or red-pilled, sexual orientation realist, gender identity realist, etc.

Almost all present wings have abandoned race realism as too much of a hot potato, but this group will continue allow discussion of racial differences with a Left viewpoint.

Any of my readers are certainly welcome to join.

Here is a description of the group that I wrote:

This is an Alternative Left group created by me, Robert Lindsay, who, believe it or not, is the person who actually created the Alt Left. However, now that the Alt Left has become a name brand with more wings than a flock of geese, many of these wings have gotten seriously away from the original intentions of me and some of the other early thinkers.

The main way they are diverging is towards conservatism. We are not conservatives! I do not know how many times we need to shout that from the rooftops. We are people of the Left – liberals, progressives, Leftists, socialists, Communists and anarchists. Now granted we rather weird and dissident Leftists, we are nevertheless of the Left. While social conservatives can stay, all other conservatives will be banned on sight. No supporting the US conservative movement, the Republican Party or Trump.

Another way the Alt Left has gotten away is that some wings are simply less insane versions of SJW insanity. We are anti-SJW and anti-PC to the core. Nevertheless, we still support the basic goals of all these liberation movements when they began. Our motto is, “We signed up for Liberation, not insanity!” We are for equal rights but against weirdness, insanity and the general Cultural Left Freakshow.

We are pro-civil rights and against real racism. However, modern anti-racism has gone insane. MLK would not recognize this clown car. 80% of what is called sexism, racism, homophobia or antisemitism is nothing of the sort. It is just real talk by real people. Nevertheless there are ugly racists, nasty antisemites, misogynistic men and women who hate men. These are the real forms of prejudice, and we will oppose those all the way.

A third way the Alt Left has gone out of control is that it spends most of its time attacking SJW’s and says almost nothing about the menace of Trump and modern Republican Party who are imposing a proto-fascist dictatorship on us.

All women are welcome to join! Please do!

Black people are more than welcome as are those of any other race! Come on in!

Sexual minorities are also welcome though they may dislike the tone.

Of course, socially conservative Leftists are more than welcome! You are the whole reason for this movement.

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Why Is Alt-Right Called the “Alt” Right? Is There an “Alt-Left”?

Question asked on Quora. Here are some of the answers:

The Alt-Right is properly the Alternative Right. It refers to a loose collection of dissident groups and intellectuals who have either been kicked out of, or have little interest in, the mainstream right as represented by the Republican Party, National Review, and Fox News.

Is there an Alt-Left? Yes. There is a Race-Realist Left centered around AltLeft.com.

This is probably the best answer of them all. And he does call out Rabbit’s site, which is very nice.

The Alt Right is an extremely loose movement, made up of different strands of people connected to white supremacy. One body of adherents is the ostensibly “intellectual” racists who create many of the doctrines and principles of the white supremacist movement. They seek to attract young educated whites to the movement by highlighting the achievements and alleged intellectual and cultural superiority of whites.

They run a number of small white supremacist enterprises that include think tanks, online publications and publishing houses. These include Radix and Washington Summit Publishers, both run by Richard Spencer; Counter Currents Publishing, run by Greg Johnson; American Renaissance, run by Jared Taylor; and The Right Stuff, a political and social blog with a number of contributors.

Another strand of the Alt Right consists of younger racists savvy with social media and Internet communications. In recent months, a number of these Alt Righters have promoted Donald Trump’s* presidential bid, seeing the populist candidate as someone tougher than so-called “cuckservatives,” thanks to his controversial stands on issues ranging from immigration to Muslims in America.

Alt Righters like to try to use terms such as “culture” as substitutes for more lightning rod terms such as “race,” or promote “Western Civilization” as a code word for white culture or identity. They do not make explicit references to white supremacy like the “14 words” a slogan used by Neo-Nazis and other hardcore white supremacists. The “14 words” refers to the expression, “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.” Even though Alt Righters share the sentiment behind the “14 words” they’re more inclined to talk about preserving European-American identity.

This is an excellent answer, although he does not mention the Alt Left. Is it not true though that there are some nonracist parts of the Alt Right such as the HBDsphere and the Manosphere?

Hillary Clinton started calling everyone who opposed her alt-right and now the fake news story about some fake alt right news story is the ammo the censors need/want to censor sites like Breitbart, InfoWars with some legit fake sites sprinkled in. Welcome to censorship part 2 in America. One person’s fake news (insert something like man made global warming or how awesome Trump is here) is another’s truth (insert something like man made global warming or how awesome Trump is here as well.) People should be able to read whatever they want and decode if it’s real or fake or propaganda or not. Don’t need our government becoming like China in this regard.

Edit: There is a real Alt Left & Right.

Alt Left and Alt Right agree on many things like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trumps platform of what’s wrong with America they differ in how you want it fixed.

The first paragraph is completely idiotic, along with the pointless and insane use of the disgusting term “fake news.” Butt the next two paragraphs are at least somewhat correct, although the number of Alt-Rightists who supported Sanders must be very small.

It is an alternative to traditional rightwing conservatives. They are less religious and more socially conservative. They care far less about taxes and are fighting the Regressive Left.

This is correct, although I am really getting sick and tired of the Regressive Left phrase. It’s time to put this crap phrase in the trash can where it belongs. At one time it meant something, but now it’s turning into poison, and idiotic poison at that. The main problem with this phrase is that it is absolutely senseless. I do not see the point in parroting slogans that are completely senseless and irrational right on their face.

There currently is no Alt Left. Although many leftists have fled the Regressive Left into the Alt Right.

The first sentence is not true. And there is that horrible Regressive Left phrase again. I am wondering how many Leftists or even liberals did indeed flee the Regressive Left for the Alt Right. Rabbit seems like one. Were there others?

Alt-Right is a self-selected title which their members started using to distance themselves from the Republican Party

This is straight up correct.

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Amren Talks about Me

New article on the Anti-Anti-White Left, a follow-up to a previous article on the same theme, discusses me, Rabbit and some other Lefties and liberals writing along somewhat the same lines that liberalism and the Left has to quit beating up White workers, calling them names and lecturing them about privilege.

From the piece:

2) There is some confusion about the term “alt-left.”

Among racially conscious whites, “alt-left” refers to the handful of race realists who also support leftist policies such as the welfare state and gun control. There are a few websites dedicated to their ideas, such as Robert Lindsay’s blog and AltLeft.com.

Outside of these circles, “alt-left” means something else. Once Hillary Clinton promoted the term “alt-right,” pro-Clinton writers began using “alt-left” to smear other leftist writers—generally pro-Sanders people—who criticized Mrs. Clinton’s derision of Trump supporters or her focus on identity politics. In short, “alt-left” is a Clintonite smear of what I am calling the anti-anti-white left.

The first two paragraphs are correct, but the third is completely wrong. But oh well.

One piece points out that while Trump did not offer laid-off Rust Belt workers much, Hillary offered them absolutely nothing at all other “retraining.” Retraining has been the go-to liberal solution to globalization and horrific trade deals by neoliberal Democrats like the Clintons and Obama for decades now. It didn’t work back then, and it’s not working now. For one thing, it appears that this retraining was never even implemented. For another thing, it is dubious if it will ever be implemented, especially in this climate. More importantly,  saying “We are going to retrain all the workers fired by these horrible trade deals,” is just liberal handwaving and virtue signaling. How bout never throwing them out of their jobs in the first place? How bout that?

Clintonian Democrat: “Hey, we are going to throw all you White people out of your good-paying jobs so the top 10% of the population can get even richer, but don’t worry, we will retrain you to do something else, like, um…I dunno? But don’t worry! We love you! Don’t forget to vote Democrat!”

White worker: “Why are you throwing me out of work to enrich one of my class enemies in the first place though? Whose side are you on anyway? Are you on the side of me or my class enemies? Make up your mind.”

Clintonian Democrat: Bla bla neoliberalism, bla bla free markets, bla bla failed socialism, bla bla socialist failure, bla bla the budget deficit, bla bla trade deals are good for consumers, bla bla the world is changing, bla bla you can’t run away from globalization, bla bla globalization is great and helps build strong bodies 12 different ways, bla bla didn’t you know that.

Bla bla of course you are our friends, bla bla but the rich are our friends too, bla bla these are wealth creator, bla bla these are the people who give you your jobs, bla bla what are you racist or something, bla bla protectionism doesn’t work, bla bla protectionism caused the Great Depression lie, bla bla we have to get hip and get with the program, bla bla we are part of a globalized world now there is no avoiding that.

Bla bla free trade deals are good for the “economy”, bla bla trade deals are good for “economic growth,” bla bla trade deals are good for the stock market, bla bla most people are now invested in the stock market, bla bla mom and pop investors, bla bla most workers are investors now through their 401K’s and pensions, bla bla the stock market is about all of us, bla bla we all get hurt when the stock market goes down,

Bla bla financialization is the future, bla bla FIRE industry is the future, bla bla sell debt and get rich, bla bla destroy companies for no reason and get rich, bla bla fire lots of workers and get rich, bla bla why don’t you go back to school, bla bla anyone can get rich, bla bla Horatio Alger, bla bla the American Way, the business of America is business, bla bla automation is killing your jobs not trade deals.

If you lost your job to an illegal that shows you’re a loser lol, bla bla you are all deplorable White people, bla bla check your privilege, bla bla vote for us we are for women, bla bla vote for us we are for gay people, bla bla vote for us we are for trannies and every other freak,  bla bla vote for us we are for Hispanics, bla bla vote for us we are for illegals, bla bla vote for us we are for immigrants, bla bla vote for us support diversity, bla bla vote for us support Black Lives Matter, bla bla don’t be racist now, bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.

White worker: Bye, you’re not even talking to me. Trump’s awful, but at least he’s talking to me. Maybe what he’s selling won’t work, but you aren’t selling me a thing. So I’m voting for Trump. I may be a fool, but I’m not an idiot.

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On Truths and Falsehoods: “True” Poison and “False” Poison are Both Still Poison

 

Steve: It’s sure something to think about. I don’t like either side, but I’d prefer a world ruled by political correctness than actual fascism.

It sure is a shitty choice, and the Cultural Left has stated that I am an enemy, but still I would rather be ruled by my enemies than these guys. I don’t think they will be that hard on me anyway.

Steve: I’d like if we were mature enough to accept HBD and still be ethical and kind but sometimes

That has been the position of this site for some time now, but I now think this is no longer possible. Humans just don’t work that way.

Steve: I worry that the pendulum has to swing to one extreme or the other.

Societies can and do work this way at times. It’s not a cliché!

Steve: We might miss the politically correct world one day.

No shit. They suck, but they’re worse than NAZIS? Um, NO.

Steve: Could it be….better… that people are ignorant about it, that our media tries to keep it that way, intentionally or unintentionally?

I am starting to see why people hide this stuff. That video is what happens when people start signing onto HBD. Some facts might just be so toxic and evil that we might as well shut them down. What’s going to happen if we deny HBD? The sky will fall?

Look, poison’s poison. Sure poisonous lies are ugly things, but so are poisonous truths. If you hand me something to eat and say, “Hey this stuff is all falsehood. And it’s also poison,” of course I won’t eat it and I’ll be glad I didn’t consume a falsehood because I dislike lies. But if you hand me the same stuff, I’m suddenly supposed to consume this poison just because it’s scientifically validated? “Here, eat this poison! Science just proved that this poison is a scientific truth!” So what? What do I care? Poison’s poison. I won’t eat poison because it’s bad for me. I don’t care if the journal Science just proved this particular poison is scientific fact. Great. It’s proven fact. Now I should eat it? Hell, no, it’s poison. I don’t eat poison.

Steve: On the other hand, if the mainstream doesn’t accept reality, isn’t there a danger it will empower the far right?

We are screwed either way. It pisses some off and makes them turn into the people in this video, but also if you acknowledge HBD as true, you probably create even more people in this video. We are screwed either way, but denial probably creates fewer Nazis than acknowledgement.

Steve: Doesn’t the truth have to come out in the end?

Who knows? I’m not sure it matters, since once the truth of HBD comes out, it seems like you just create a ton of Nazis, so I think we should put off this truth coming out thing.

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Liberal Race Realism, Precursor to the Alt Left

This was actually the precursor to the Alt Left. I started this ill-fated movement in 2009, seven years ago. I must say it was a complete flop. Virtually nobody signed on. And the few who called themselves Liberal Race Realists on here generally spent all their time engaging in the worst racist abuse and race-baiting of each other. Disgusting.

LRR ran into all of the same problems that the Alt Left is running into except more so. The Race Realist Alt Left and the Left Wing of the Alt Right (sort of the same thing) are both running into the same problems that LRR ran into. A good part of the Alt Left is already chucking the race realist part, which was actually one of the founding tenets of the Alt Left, but whatever. If people want to make some Alt Left minus the race realist part, I could care less.

There’s nothing to be gained for the Left in talking about race realism anyway. There’s nothing to be done about it, and all talking about it does is create more rightwingers and turn more liberals rightwing. What’s the point? Why feed the enemy and starve ourselves? Are we masochists? Are we bent on losing as part of some “beautiful loser” Romanticism?

I can see why a lot of the Alt Left wants to chuck the race realist part. It stands to tar our movement, which is already going to be called racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, etc., with the racist moniker in a bad way by painting a target right on our heads and calling it “Racist – Come Hit Me Please.”

At some point, I said that LRR had flopped, and I folded it up, only to turn it much more expansively into the Alt Left later on. The Alt Left has a Helluva lot more potential than LRR did, and let’s hope it grows!

What was LRR all about? The best definitions of it so far is from Hunter Wallace, the fine writer of Occidental Dissent:

A dash of race realism, positive White racial identity, the Leftist view of American history, anti-racism, and a base of liberalism.

Well, that is exactly what it was. And that is probably not a bad definition of my version of the Alt Left too. I could not write a more perfect summation.

More Wallace, summing up the problems inherent in the movement and predicting, accurately, that the movement would go nowhere, which is exactly where it went:

Robert Lindsay is still trying to bake his political cake out of incompatible ingredients: a dash of race realism, positive white racial identity, the leftist view of American history, anti-racism, and a base of liberalism. Needless to say, this unusual combination is almost never found on sale. His brand of race realism rules out about “95% of the pro-White crowd.” It’s probably more than that, really.

Which is odd. Lindsay has attracted many racialist readers (myself included) with his incisive observations. His blog entries have been featured on Amren. He is very fascinated with the pro-White scene and writes about it quite regularly. We agree on many points and matters of fact but tend to draw different conclusions. I don’t sense any duplicity in his writings that wafts off the likes of Lawrence Auster (Jew) or Ian Jobling.

In this post, Lindsay again talks about his anecdotal experience with the liberal stratum of White Californians and reiterates his often-stated view that White Nationalism is simply impossible in America. I don’t believe his sweeping conclusions are warranted by the sample size he is using.

Here in the South, I find most people around my age to be either “casual racists” or otherwise receptive to racialism. These people have never heard of White Nationalism. They tend to be uninterested in politics. Most are thinly Protestant Christians (rarely attend church). None are haunted by any sense of guilt over the Holocaust, Jim Crow, slavery, extermination of the Indians, oppression of women, etc. Most hold at least negative views about Negroes, illegal immigration, and affirmative action.

There is no organization on the ground trying to recruit them to White Nationalism. Instead, the movement is bottled up in cyberspace. Perhaps it will remain there indefinitely. Maybe that will change.

I would wager that White Nationalism has a better chance of breaking out into the mainstream (in the South) than Lindsay’s version of race realism. These days liberalism and racialism are mutually exclusive. Racialists don’t have much use for the Left and tend to jettison its neurotic obsessions with racism, feminism, homophobia, political correctness, all its talk about “freedom” and “equality,” and so on. Liberals don’t have any use for White racial consciousness (except in the negative sense), immigration restriction, opposition to affirmative action and multiculturalism, or any of ideas that animate White Nationalists.

After 1965, there is no longer any middle ground between the two. Whether it be neocon race realism (Jobling) or Liberal Race Realism (Lindsay), I don’t see much of an audience for a third way.

And here:

Robert Lindsay, the most interesting liberal in cyberspace, has done two interviews with Voice of Reason. He used to be a regular commentator on OD in 2009.

Lindsay is notable for his attempt to integrate communism, anti-racism, race realism, and White Advocacy. He is a critic of Zionist Jews and White Nationalism. His rhetorical scatter shot hits targets on both the Right and Left.

LRR remains in part of the Alt Left – for the most part in the Left Wing of the Alt Left. I was thinking that Rabbit’s movement was sort of the stepchild of LRR. In fact, Rabbit is LRR with some modifications, but he’s taking it a lot further than I did. Indeed, Rabbit has said that he read my site for many years while I was writing pre-Alt Left stuff, and he links back to a report of an early interview with me that was discussed on Occidental Dissent.

But people might want to read about LRR to see a movement that laid the groundwork for the Alt Left and was in fact the Alt Left in its initial limited manifestation. So LRR is interesting for historical reasons if for no other.

Liberal Race Realism Starting to Grow

New Liberal Race Realist Blog

Liberal Race Realism: The Facts and the Project

Liberal Race Realism Trashed on Craigslist

Liberal Race Realism: Clearing Up a Few Things

Liberal Race Realism: Where We Are Coming From

Excellent New Piece on Liberal Race Realism

Liberal Race Realism – A Brief Definition

In Defense of Liberal Race Realism

Liberal Race Realism: Concepts and Conundrums

What Liberal Race Realism Is and What It Is Not

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“A Guide for Minorities for Exploring Racial Differences,” by Phil

Just a concept I’ve held onto a while ago and figured now would be a good time to use it.

I can speak from experience that accepting racial differences while being a minority (U.S perspective anyway) is something that’s hard to swallow even after sometime coming to terms with the data. Sure, you have your troubles from a White perspective (basically being on the receiving end of Cultural Left Identities agendas), but if you wanted to be more engaged in HBD, you’re going to be at a disadvantage depending on your background, to put it lightly. To put it bluntly, you probably want to keep reading if you want your sanity secured.

#1. Ignorance is bliss as much as denial is delusion. Not by lack of trying in the past though, I’m not going to go through the trouble of convincing in 500 comments. I may respond to several comments at most regarding the more controversial HBD concepts, but if you want to stay comfortable in zero innate differences between races or somehow massaging the differences, then so be it. The more furious ones about it typically don’t stay long nowadays on this blog aside from Jason Y, and he’s White!

#2. Buddy System applies. Aside from some mildly pro-white HBD blogs, you’re best bet for both learning and having a relatively civil club of people to talk about stuff would be here. The owner here has already posted much on the topic of typical HBD blog behavior, and he tries hard to deviate as far as possible before hitting Denialism.

#3. Don’t redo the 4th Grade; remember what an average is. This is without a doubt the number one detail that, when unnoticed, has caused strawmen among non-sequituri in mountains of fallacies in efforts of debunking HBD. Second runner-up is to overplay the environment factor ,and the grand champ of defense mechanisms of course is just to claim racism.

#4. Keep up with the class and study. I can also tell you from experience that not everyone is going to be accurate. For example, a blogger named “Modern heretic 3000” often talks about Blacks having browridges as a low IQ development, but that’s incorrect. Even if you look it up in Erectus Walks Among Us, the measurement show Blacks have lower values of browridge prominence compared to Caucasians. What may commonly appear to be one is just an averagely smaller height in of the forehead. These types of mistakes are going to be common among those who lean towards the higher ends of White Nationalist lunacy. Other milder HBD’ers typically just stick to the basics of HBD and politics. You may come across opportunities to use “scientific racism” to your advantage.

#5. Don’t miss it “all” just for the “warts”. Believe or not, reading about tribes in Africa from actual 19th century books for information of these tribes’ capabilities was far better than reading either typical Afrocentric propaganda or typical Black-bashing. If you’re uncomfortable with what you find, use it as an opportunity to learn both the negatives and positives of your race. However don’t dive into Romanticism as tempted you may be because chances are the stats will wake you up if you don’t.

#6. Self hate is no way to live. While this could be said of any other advice I’ve given, follow this step if you can help it. Chances are there’s a good number of years ahead of you, and you’ll get sick of the routine after a day. I know I did. Also it’s a waste of your potential for to aspiring to better yourself. If you can believe and get worked up over racial flaws that may apply to you, you could have a higher chance of somehow getting around them one way or another.

These 6 steps are really the only major ones that come to mind that will get you some footing in HBD. If anyone has any question or suggestions, feel free to share.

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