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Another Way of Looking at IQ: Extra-IQ Factors

RL: Incidentally, two of the brightest commenters on my blog had IQ’s of 113 and 117. The 117 IQ guy was fantastic at philosophy and other forms of abstract thinking. The other fellow was into genetics and anthropology, but he thought in much the same way. A few of these types are so bright that you almost think that their score is wrong. I am not sure what is going on except maybe they are working their brains extra hard, or they have filled their brains up with all sorts of goodies.

Oops I did it again: Myers-Briggs (Jungian) type, life experiences, economic status, degree of neuroticism (“Work their wits hard”), the brain faculty we call “sensitivity”, the other we call “fantasy”, all are factors.

This is so correct. Jim Flynn wrote a book the premise of which was something like “factors above and beyond IQ.” He showed how 1st and 2nd Generation Northeast Asians in the US (mostly Japanese and Chinese) were often working at jobs up that usually required IQ’s 20 points above their level. In other words, a 100 IQ Japanese-American would be functioning on the job at the same level as a typical 120 IQ ordinary American. In other words, the NE Asians might have an IQ of 100, but on his on the job performance was the same as someone with a 120 IQ.

Flynn called these “extra-IQ factors.” In other words, on the job, IQ isn’t everything. I forget what the extra-IQ factors were but they seemed to be things like punctuality, responsibility, resilience, psychological stability, regular attendance, studiousness, reliability, seriousness, conscientiousness, hard working nature, and stick-to-it-iveness or what some are now calling “grit” which boils down to “if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again,” or continuing to hammer away at a problem even after repeated failure – not giving up.

So you see there are personality factors that you can add to your IQ score so you perform at a higher level than your IQ would predict.

I was thinking of this in terms of Blacks, that maybe Blacks could cultivate some extra-IQ factors that would allow them to overcome some of their disadvantage due to lower average IQ. If an 85 IQ Black person could function on the job at the same level as we expect a 105 IQ person to perform at, I think the position of Blacks in the US could improve a lot. Unfortunately the wort of things that were helping the NE Asians were sort of “nerd factors, square factors, uptight factors” that Blacks just don’t seem to do well in, mostly because they look down on this sort of excessive seriousness.

Nevertheless, I am open to the idea of harnessing extra-IQ factors in Blacks to help them to perform better in school and work. Harnessing what seems to be their innate social skills and extroversion might be one of these things.

Myers-Briggs or Jungian personality type: Yes, certain personality types might help one perform above their IQ level.

Life experiences: Correct. Certain types of life experiences and lessons learned and skills gained from them could help push you above your IQ level.

Economic status: Yes, a higher economic status might help you to perform above your IQ level.

Degree of neuroticism or working their wits hard: Correct. Someone who pushes their brain into overdrive and characteristically pushes their mind and intellect to its limits in an almost challenge-testing near-athletic competitive manner could surely perform above their IQ level. I think I have seen some examples of this in my life.

Sensitivity as a brain factor: I could see how this would help you perform above your IQ level, but I am wondering just what this factor is.

Fantasy as a brain factor: If this means something like creativeness or open mindedness or the tendency to think outside the box, I could see how this would help you.

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Is There Such a Thing as Very High IQ Behavior?

Rowlii writes:

Thanks for your answer. Is there a “High IQ” behaviour?

Sort of, but not really. My mother and and all of my siblings have very high IQ’s (140+), and we are all quite different. However, three of us are quite shy and are probably introverts. The other one is more introverted than he lets on.

It is hard for me to answer this question because I have not known the IQ’s of most of the people I have known in my life. I know the IQ’s of my family members, but I never learned the IQ’s of many of my friends or even the vast majority of my girlfriends. This is not to mention the more casual acquaintances I have run into. So I have only really known maybe ~13 people in my whole life who had very high IQ’s. Obviously I have run into a lot more high IQ people than that, but in the course of life, you usually never learn the IQ’s of most of the people you meet and hang out with.

Of those 13 people, they were sometimes a bit different from each other. I wish I could say that there was something stringing them together, but I cannot.

It also depends on what you mean by high IQ. Very high IQ is usually defined as 140+ (top 1%). High IQ might be defined as 130+ (top 3.5%) or maybe even lower. It depends on where you set the bar.

Some of us are a lot more extroverted than others. I am shocked at how extroverted many very high IQ women are. Very high IQ men tend not to be so extroverted, but some of them are quite capable extroverts. Many seem quite normal, even shockingly normal. One of the sanest men I have ever met had an IQ of 160. He is also the highest IQ person that I have ever known. On the other hand, there also seems to be a tendency towards mental illness, in particular depression and manic depression. Somehow there is a connection between very high IQ and mood disorders.

I do not know any very high IQ people who have Aspergers. This is largely a myth. We are a lot better at socializing than you might think. I don’t know any very high IQ people who are social retards. I know some who are assholes, but social retards, no. Social skills and figuring your way around human interaction is an intellectual skill, and it can be learned. Most of the very high IQ people I have known seem to have learned that skill quite well.

There are a lot of questions along these lines on Quora under the IQ topic, and a lot of very high IQ people are answering those questions. The questions are along the lines of “What is it like to have an IQ of 140/150?”, etc. Then a lot of very high IQ people answer the questions. People who are interested in the topic may want to head over there are read what those people say. There are of very smart, interesting, wise and eloquent people writing over there, and you can learn quite a few things from the handy to the esoteric.

One of the answers that you see over and over is that very high IQ people say they see patterns everywhere. Many say that they are always observing all the time and looking for underlying patterns in everything they see and everywhere they go. They’re always trying to put it all together, see the big picture, or view the world in a holistic way.

To answer a question in a holistic way is to see things in a larger pattern of the whole question, so to speak, taking into account everything. It’s another way of saying seeing the whole picture. We try not see the trees and miss the forest, if you catch my drift. Sure, we look at individual trees and groups of trees and even try to figure out what they mean or relationships between them, but at the end of the day, we still want to put all of those individual trees together into some sort of a forest.

I would say that very high IQ people are a lot smarter than you think they are. You might think that they are out to lunch, but most of them are very much on the ball. I had a girlfriend with an IQ of 140, and she immediately got all of my jokes and funny little comments. It was like instantly, bam! Also I did not have to explain many things to her. She just got most things BOOM like that as fast as you could blink your eyes.

I got to know a woman with a 156 IQ recently, and she was fast as lightning. She understood everything you said and was also very curious. If she didn’t understand anything you were saying, she would ask you to explain it. Then I would explain it to her and even if it was something that she did not know much about, and when I explained it to her, she caught on very fast.

There was none of this, “I don’t know what you are talking about.” One thing that amazed me about her was how I could be talking about a subject that she obviously knew little about, and she would ask me to explain the concept. And she would pick up this previously unknown concept very quickly, faster than almost anyone I have met. When I was talking with her it was just BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM like that.

I like to play games with speech and toss in esoteric comments, analogies, references to movies, books, songs, famous people and events, sayings, famous lines and riddles. A lot of these might be odd little puns of worldplay. If you have ever read James Joyce, I am doing something like that, just playing games with language and also with knowledge. A lot of the time people don’t have the faintest idea what I am doing, so I try not to do this too much, but when I am on the ball, I can do this like crazy.

Most people think I am insane or very weird but some smart people can catch all the little jokes and references. I am not crazy at all. I am talking like that on purpose.

Sometimes I speak on multiple levels. I might say something easily understandable to anyone, but if you listen closely I am also throwing in things on a higher level so the message really has two levels, a simple lower level with the basic meaning and a higher level where I am often playing games.

I will throw in some line out of a book, a reference to an actor or a band or this or that in there. Most people don’t get the weird little word games, but it doesn’t matter because there is a basic message on the lower level in there that can be easily read and comprehended and the word games don’t mean anything anyway as I am just playing games with language and knowledge. It all depends on which levels you want to read the speech on.

Some very high IQ people are very fast. I have been told that I am fast too. Some people say that sometimes I have these funny little micro-movements around my face, mostly around my eyes but sometimes in my mouth too. One  person called them micro-emotions or micro-reactions. They say it doesn’t really look nervous but instead it almost looks there’s a fast computer in back of my face and all those little movements are the thing processing data.

A lot of the time I answer a question almost as soon as it has been asked. Sometimes I even start to answer it or I start nodding my head halfway through the sentence because I already know what the person is going to say in the rest of the sentence. Sometimes I finish people’s sentences for them.

Nothing much gets past me. I hear everything you say, and I am probably watching everything you do. I’m usually not confused. Life is not very confusing. This can work well for social skills because if you get that supercomputer working socially, you can respond to all of the little subtle changes in the conversation as it slowly changes as you are engaging in it.

Conversations are changing all the time, and you are supposed to be reacting to most everything the other person is saying or doing. They make a little movement, and you try to interpret and make some movement back. You respond emotionally to their remarks and even to their little micro-emotional changes. In a good, on the ball conservation there might be maybe 10 or more reactions and counter-reactions in a minute.

I am not sure if this is really a good thing because instead of seeing me as some with-it super smart social genius or saying,”Wow look at that guy, he seems like he has a Cray computer in back of his face – he’s so fast,” instead most people seem to think that I am weird. I am not sure why that is. Sometimes I think they are on a different wavelength than I am. I think they just don’t get it. They don’t get me.

A lot of very high IQ people will tell you that they feel that they are misunderstood. People misjudge them, misunderstand what they are saying, and either don’t understand them or read their comments in a completely different way than how they were intended. They read funny and sometimes false motives into our speech and behaviors that we did not intend to put out. This is because they are not understanding what we are trying to convey with our speech and behaviors. Once again, I think most people are just on some other wavelength than people like me and that’s why they seem to misunderstand us so much.

Very high IQ people will often say that they are good at making decisions and that they tend to make intelligent decisions because they weigh all of the possible answers to the question very carefully. On the other hand, I know some very high IQ people who live their lives idiotically and make the stupidest decisions. But that’s not because they are stupid, that’s more because of personality issues, in particularly massive psychological defenses that get in the way of rational behavior.

Just because you have a very high IQ is not guarantee against being crazy or building crazy, disordered and excessive defense systems that lead to characterological problems. Most of the poor life decisions I see very high IQ people making are not due to doing dumb things but instead there is some mental disorder going on there that is messing up their behavior.  Very high IQ people can definitely have characterological problems where their defensive structures have gotten so bizarre and excessive that they start to cause a lot of crazy and irrational behaviors.

I am not sure about people from 130-139 (high IQ or near genius), but I think they function better than a lot of us very high IQ types. With us very high IQ types, our IQ’s are so high that they are starting to get in the way of our lives, and they might even be making us strange or mentally disordered. The high IQ type is very, very smart, but an IQ in the 130’s is not going to have that correlation with mental illness and weirdness that you start seeing in some people above 140.

I have seen people in the 130’s who were very smart, and they were also superb social actors, very extroverted, etc. I spent a lot of time with two men. One had an IQ of 139, and another had a 135 IQ. It would be quite hard to say that I was smarter than either of them, and they were both whip-fast sharp, especially the 139 IQ guy, who is a relative. He is just BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM. He has also been an alcoholic for decades which has wrecked his life, but he is still whip-fast smart despite the decades of booze.

Once you get into the high IQ range (130-150), I don’t see a lot of differences between me and someone with an IQ of say 129-139. They seem like they are about as smart as I am. Past a certain point, I do not think the scores mean all that much. You end up with really smart people and there’s probably not a lot of observable difference between really smart people even if one is smarter than the other. You’re probably not going to be able to see how the higher IQ person is smarter because the differences all seem to wash out at high IQ levels.

Frankly I do not think that most of you want to be as smart as I am. Yes, there is huge upside, but there is also a massive downside at least for me. The downside is probably avoidable, but you still might get it. Sometimes I think it is better not to be this smart. I am so smart that it almost gets in the way of life, and most of you might not want to live like that.

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List of Famous Sociopaths

Enoch writes:

Robert, you seem to be very knowledgeable on sociopathy/psychopathy.

What famous people (excluding serial killers) do you think are true psychopaths?

Are or were?

Here is my list. Feel free to comment.

  1. Hitler (diagnosed)
  2. LBJ
  3. Max Hardcore (surely)
  4. Kenneth Lay (definitely)
  5. Tom Cruise (also very narcissistic)
  6. Robert Blake
  7. Suge Knight
  8. Bris Brown
  9. 50 Cent
  10. Harvey Weinstein
  11. Phil Spector
  12. Christian Bale
  13. Courtney Love (also a narcissist with Borderline Personality Disorder)
  14. Khan Tusion
  15. Steve Jobs
  16. Ted Cruz
  17. Ray Sharkey
  18. Naomi Campbell
  19. Saddam Hussein
  20. Dick Cheney
  21. Rupert Murdoch
  22. Ayn Rand
  23. L. Ron Hubbard
  24. Fred Phelps
  25. Mitch McConnell
  26. Grover Norquist
  27. Rush Limbaugh (also a narcissist)
  28. Bill O’Reilly (also narcissist)
  29. Dick Fuld
  30. Chris Brown
  31. Mitt Romney
  32. Bernie Madoff (certainly)
  33. Jeff Skilling
  34. Aretha Franklin
  35. Joe Jackson
  36. Eddie Nash
  37. Alan Dershowitz
  38. Mark Wahlberg
  39. Jimmy Saville (very much so)
  40. Al Dunlap (surely)

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Introverts, Extroverts, Pure Introverts and Frustrated Extroverts

Gregory Chelli writes:

I think introverts generally have a lower social intelligence than extroverts.

Autistics are true introverts, they don’t like to be with others because they don’t understand them well. They are like naturally bad at maths people who don’t like maths as a result of their incapacity. There are probably no bad at maths people who fantasizing about equation and maths problems, as there are no autistics fantasizing about being in a conversation with people.

The frustrated extroverts or extroverted loners you are talking about are generally persons with high social intelligence who can’t fully use their gift in real life because of some emotional problem, like timidity for example. So, as you said, they end up created imaginary social situations in their mind to relax themselves. An analogy would be a math genius who is prevented to do maths for some reason, like being in jail. He would be thinking about imaginary maths problem most of the time without being able to do real math stuff on a blackboard or in a notebook.

There are probably true introverts with high social intelligence and true extroverts with low social intelligence. But these ones are exceptions. People generally like to do what they are good at.

NB: people with extremely high social intelligence may not be interested in people, because the general population would look autistic, and thus not interesting to them.

What do you think of this comment?

I suppose it depends on the definitions of introvert and extrovert. Supposedly 80% of the population are extroverts, whatever that word means. True introverts are only 20% of the population, whatever that word means. I suppose extroverts really like to be around people. Introverts like to be around people a little of the time but not a lot of the time. They need their space. I know introverts will talk at a dinner table for a bit and then retreat to their bedroom with a book. Or you will talk to them at a table for a bit, but then they want to stop talking and read the paper.

Introverts absolutely do not sit around fantasizing about being around people all the time when they are alone. Forget it. And anyone who does that is not an introvert. Forget it. They’re just not. Normies would probably insist that this person is an introvert or a “loner” just because they are alone all the time. But Normies are retarded.

I would say that just because you are alone all the time doesn’t mean you are a loner! How about that?

Now we need to define the word loner. Normie retards say that loners are people who are alone all the time, but that’s not the definition of a loner. A true loner or real loner is someone who really has need or use for other people and simply prefers to be alone all the time because that is what makes them happy. If they are forced to be around people, they probably try to leave after a while because they start to feel uncomfortable.

If you are alone all the time but you don’t enjoy it or you hate it and you dream of being around people, you are not a real loner. Really you are not a loner at all. We might call you a “fake loner.” In this case, we are looking at the difference between real loners and fake loners.

I think introverts like being alone, but they don’t want to be alone all the time, although there are some who do.

I do not think shy people are necessarily introverts. Nor are social phobics for that matter. Normies say they are, but Normies are idiots. For instance a shy person who does not really like to be alone a lot but ends up being alone due to shyness is not an introvert. Forget it. Especially so if the shy person is fantasizing about being around people all the time.

I would gather that that person has probably not been shy their whole lives. Perhaps there was a time when they mingled with people much easier, but then something happened to them, and they turned shy. The reason they are fantasizing being around people all the time is because at one point in their life, they were doing this, it was going well, and they were having a lot of fun. In other words, they want the old times back again.

Or perhaps they may have an anxiety disorder. Quite a few extroverts develop anxiety disorders. If a person develops an anxiety disorder, it doesn’t really matter how good their social skills are because they will not be able to use them well. They may well know all the rules and have all the skills, but when the anxiety comes out, it’s all for naught because 100% of the people around them are going to reject them in one way or another. They may well even be extroverts who like the idea of being around people, but the anxiety kills off all the fun by making everyone reject them and makes being around people a great big drag. Eventually they might just stop trying.

Normie idiots think only introverts get anxiety disorders, but that’s just not so. I have even heard of cases where wild, hypersocial, life of the party types in their teens developed social phobia at age 18 to the point of hardly being able to leave their houses. There has been no actual personality change here, and true personality change is not common anyway. The person has simply become ill. Theoretically, if you could cure that illness, the shyness would go away, and they would be their old hypersocial selves again because that is who they are deep down inside.

I do not believe that the deep down inside person really changes in most cases. Normie morons insist, “Anyone can change their personality,” but that’s just wrong. You are what you are. Your personality is your personality. You’re stuck with it. Get used to it. It’s yours. All yours. That said, no one is stuck with a lousy personality.

One theory is that there are good and bad sides to all personality types. The good side of Antisocial personality is Aggressive Personality. The good side of Narcissistic Personality is Confident Personality. The good side of Borderline Personality is Sensitive Personality. I believe the good side of Dependent Personality is Devoted Personality, and the good side of Paranoid Personality is Cautious Personality.

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Are “Extroverted Loners” Really Loners?

Found on the Net:

Extroverted loner – An extroverted loner would prefer to mingle with others for relaxation but for some reason ends up spending most of their time alone.

– Stuart K. Hayashi. Life in the Market Ecosystem. Lexington Books. 2014.

An extroverted loner is someone who longs to be around people but for whatever reason ends up being alone a lot of the time. To me, these people are just not real true loners at all. An extroverted loner, for instance, would spend a good part of his time when alone fantasizing that he was with other people. I have worked with people who spent most of their time alone, but they told me that most of the time they were alone they were fantasizing that they were with other people. I told these people that there was no way that they were real loners, and I did not even feel that they were true introverts. This sort of person might be thought of as a “frustrated extrovert.”

The reason I think these folks are not introverts is because real introverts do not spend most of their time when alone fantasizing that they were with other people. When real introverts are alone, they are perfectly happy, and they are not fantasizing that they are with other people. Perhaps they are quite happy to be away from people for a bit.

I am dubious if all shy people are really introverted. Probably many shy people are true introverts and are quite happy to be away from others. Yet some shy people are frustrated extroverts. I have met people who told me that they were very shy, and they spent a lot of time alone, but when alone, they spent most of their time fantasizing that they were with others.

I would say that it all boils down to your fantasies. Your fantasies tell you who you are. If you want to figure out who you really are, examine your fantasies. There is the secret key to your psyche.

So this indicates that a shy person can also be a frustrated extrovert. Perhaps they are afraid to approach others or fear being rejected.

If you go up to people, even those you see regularly even at say work, and try to make friends with them, there is no guarantee at all that that person will make friends with you. I understand this quite well. I am quite sure that there were a number of people I worked with who probably did not want to be friends with me at all. That’s normal and expected, but it shows you what happens if you walk up to people, even people you know fairly well, and try to make friends with them. You may well be blown off.

I have been blown off in this way hundreds to thousands of times in my life, and I have also had probably hundreds of friends down through the years. Most people probably just don’t want to be your friend. Quite possibly a few folks want to be your friend, but it’s not so easy to figure out who they are, and they might not approach you.

Most people are retarded Normies, and Normie retards do not understand what “loner” means. A loner means someone who dislikes people, has no use for them and is perfectly happy to be alone all the time. However, Normie morons think that everyone who is alone all the time is a loner! Not true! If they are very unhappy being alone all the time and long to be with others, then they are not loners at all! But all Normies are retarded, so they just can’t seem to figure that out. I forgot to add that there is no human being that a Normie hates more than a “loner,” even though they don’t even understand what the word means.

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“Brooding” People

What do you all think of “brooding” people? I had a girlfriend a while back who noted once when I as in her bedroom one night that I had a “brooding” look about me. She compared me to a former boyfriend who was a brilliant writer and former university professor who had turned into an alcoholic. He also wrote fiction. Apparently he was a brooder too.

I had no idea that I was a brooding fellow, but then we can’t see ourselves very well, and maybe it’s better that way.

You would think women would hate brooding types, but she seemed to be intrigued, fascinated and maybe even a little turned on by a dark, brooding sort of man. Sort of like he was mysterious and vaguely frightening.

She also told me that she wanted to dump another boyfriend in favor of me because he was boring. She told me that I was scary, but “scary is hot” and scary guys turned her on a lot. So one more argument in favor of running Bad Boy Game I suppose. Apparently women like scary men? Do they?

I looked up “brooding” on the Net, and this is what I came up with:

Thinking gloomily about something, ruminating anxiously or regretfully about something. A tortured soul. Thoughtful or morbidly obsessed, deeply or seriously thoughtful, persistent morbid meditation on a problem, turning something over in the mind moodily and at length, feeling sad, worried, or angry for a long time, making you feel uncomfortable or worried as if something bad is going to happen, deep in thought.

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Aggression and Violence in Mental Disorders: Anxiety Disorders

I think a good concept is that energy either goes in or out. I suppose it can be static, but it doesn’t seem to be in most people.

Extroverts, Cluster B types, sociopaths, manics, etc. all propel energy outwards, often dramatically so. They also project guilt and fear outwards, often transforming the fear into aggression because aggression is often “fear/guilt energy” turned outwards. Everybody thinks it is cool to be an extrovert, and we all think introverts are dangerous, but the truth is that extroverts are statistically vastly more dangerous than introverts.

And when introverts do act violently, that is when they are projecting their fear/guilt energy outwards for once. In addition, introverts are divided into angry introverts and passive on “non-angry” introverts.

I will admit that angry introverts can be dangerous. All of these introverted mass shooters running around are angry introverts, every single one, I can assure you. On the other hand, extroverts are statistically at least as violent as angry introverts and probably far more so. Go to a prison and look around. 95% of the offenders people and almost all of the violent offenders will be extroverts. Obviously people who not only propel all energy in general outwards but also project all aggression out at the world are capable of quite a bit of havoc.

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In Our Modern World, The Cultural Left and SJW’s Are Actually Normie Entities

Jason Y writes:

The posts about mixed race like transniggers as well as the stuff about transsexuals hinted of normie thinking. Of course, the transsexual thing is a total thing for choice, as opposed to mixed race which someone is born with. People have been mixing since the start of time, and many groups like the Irish and Scotch Irish normally have members with frizzy curly hair etc. Fortunately they don’t enslave them.

There’s nothing wrong with agreeing with society’s rules and views if you think those views are correct.

That’s not what Normieism is all about.

This page here is all about Normieism.

I don’t think some of you get it. Normies are assholes! Just because I agree with some of society’s views and that makes me conform does not make me a Normie. There’s nothing wrong with going along with society if you happen to agree, but when society’s views are simply insane, as they often are, then you are an idiot to conform, and you should be smart and reject society.

The problem with Normies is that they go along with society’s rules because they feel that they have to and they are afraid of rejection if they go against them. And they have never stopped to think if society’s rules and views make sense or not. They simply adopt those rules and views without even thinking. Normieism is unbelievably closed-minded and incurious.

Nowadays it is practically Normie to love trannies! To love trannies, gays, bis and whatevers, and whatever sexual perversions and deviancies du jour, to be idiotically “anti-racist,” a race denier, and a gender feminist. All those things are Normie. I get massacred by Normies all the time for violating the SJW/Cultural Left agenda. You either go along with the Cultural Left or you are an evil hater bigot.

Bottom line is SJWism and the Cultural Left nowadays is Normie thinking. The Cultural Left line is the normal, accepted, conforming view for most of society. If I go against the Cultural Left here in my town or even with the people I hang out with, I am going to stir up a hornet’s nest full of troubles.

Even my Mom and siblings are very Cultural Left. They are mostly going along with the whole crazy project – gays, trannies, sexual perversion du jour, genderqueer, being nongender or neither male nor female, and on and on, it’s all a-ok in my family. The attitude is, “Hey, whatever. Let people do whatever they want to. None of this stuff is a serious problem. Any of these people can do whatever they want to along these lines. and it’s nothing to the rest of us or society at large.”

On feminism and race, they go more against Normieism. Two siblings are opposed to gender feminism, and two siblings and my Mom are quite realist on race. There is one sibling that is SJW all the way. In addition, they are sadly the worst feminazi in the family, but most of the time, they never talk about it, so it’s not a problem.

My Mom is very sensitive on gender stuff because she’s female, and she is a gender feminist to some extent. I believe she is “supporting her people.” Normally I think everyone should support their own people, but the feminists take this too far beyond actual support all the way to waging warfare against men. If supporting your people means punching me in the face, I will not support your endeavor. You need to find a better way to support your kind that doesn’t involve hitting me.

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Yes, Nonconformist SJW’s Can Be Normies Too

Nebulous Maximus writes:

Can SJW’s be normies? As outwardly freakish as some of them are, they are just as conformist as normies.

Actually some of them are.

I recall a friend of mine who I used to hang out with all the time in LA. He was a professional artist who worked for movie studios. On the one hand, he was deliberately eccentric and so were a lot of his artist friends. He was a “deliberately weird hipster artist type.” On the other hand, he was unbelievably Normie to the point of being a serious asshole. He was exactly like the guy who made this website, as big of a jerk as the guy who runs the Adult Social Skills site.

His behavior was partly my fault, as from 1982-1986, I was was in very bad shape mentally off in OCD Space World to the point where I was nearly insane.

There are some Cultural Left types on the Net who hate me, and they play Normies when they bash me. They call me weird, bizarre, insane, pedophile, crazy, lunatic, senseless, nuts, all that stuff. They come to the site, they read, and it makes them mad. Plus maybe they are too dumb to understand it, or maybe they are just blinded with rage.

When you hate someone, you can often call them names like weird, bizarre, crazy, lunatic, senseless, idiot, mentally ill, dangerous, pedophile, bla bla. It helps if you don’t understand what they are talking about. So in that sense, Normie can simply be a role that just about anyone can play in order to beat up their enemies. There are about 1 million social rules about how to act and 10 million about what to say, so playing Normie gives you a nice big bag of tricks you can use to beat up on people you don’t like. I have noticed that when people don’t like someone, they often start accusing them of being odd, strange, nuts, weird, crazy, mental, dangerous, pedophile, etc. The person doesn’t even have to do anything.

For instance a Normie thing to do on the Net is to call people autistic. I assure you that I am not even 1% Aspie or autistic. I do not know how many times I have been called autistic or Aspie. I don’t know why they say that, but on the Net, you call anyone Aspie if you don’t understand them or if you want to insult them by saying they are social retards.

It is quite difficult to judge whether someone is socially retarded by the stuff they write on the Net. I can typically never tell how good or bad anyone is socially just by reading their prose. How could I? I read some guy’s blog and think, “Wow he must get three new women a week?” Then I read some other guy’s writing and say, “This guy is obviously a social retard, and clearly he’s a virgin who’s never been laid?”

How could I possibly do that by reading someone’s prose? Keep in mind that I make part of my income in mental health. It is almost impossible for me to learn anything about anyone’s psychological state by reading their prose.

There are a few exceptions.

Some narcissists are so over the top that it blares out like a foghorn. And honestly, I did run across a couple of Aspies, but it took me quite some time to figure them out. They were commenting on my site, and they actually were socially retarded in the ways they were commenting, but it was not clear right away, and it took me maybe six weeks to figure it out with each one. Generally speaking, you can’t make any sort of a mental diagnosis by reading someone’s prose. And it is almost impossible to tell well they are socially. That stuff simply doesn’t come through in prose generally.

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What It Means to Not Be a Normie

Jason Y writes:

Yeah but aren’t weirdos the kind of people social conservatives, and also the alt left hate? For instance, you can’t get any weirder than an effeminate man petting a poodle, LOL

You don’t understand! People who are not normies are not necessarily weird at all. They have just stopped playing a lot of the society games and/or more importantly, they don’t particularly care if other people have stopped playing the society games.

My aunts and my cousins are not normies but I doubt if they are all that weird. If you met them, you would not think they were weird. They just don’t hate people who don’t play the game or play by the rules, that’s all. They’ve made up their own mind what’s important and what’s not.

A lot of the time my Mom is not a normie, but my Mom is the least weird person on Earth. She thinks a lot of society stuff is just complete shit though, honestly. You mention a lot of normie stuff or rules or ways of looking at the world to her and she will say, “Those people are idiots…Well, they’re lying…That’s stupid…They don’t understand…etc.” You get the picture.

To not be a normie just means that you are kind, empathetic, understanding and humble. You try to understand why people act the way that they do instead of blindly condemning them.

The favorite normie word is “weird.” They are all always calling everyone weird. I guess half the world is weird to normies. And they hate everyone who is “weird.” Now, when you tell me that someone is “weird” and you scrunch up your face, you have not told me one single damned thing about that human being. Am I supposed to hate them now or something. I try to envision what this person is like, but I have no clue because I have no idea what “weird” even means.

I never call anyone weird or if I do I will always give you a detailed explanation of why I think they are strange. Generally instead of using weird or strange or other bullshit words, I will simply describe the person’s behavior. Weird means a million different things. You told me someone is “weird” and you made an ugly face. But it’s perfectly possible that I might meet that person and think there is nothing weird about them at all.

Another world normies use is “crazy.” The problem is your average normie knows nothing whatsover about mental illness, so they have no business calling anyone crazy. If you tell me someone is crazy, what have you told me about that human being? Absolutely nothing at all. Are they nuts? Well, maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. I have met lots of people who get called crazy all the time, and I do not think they are even 1% nuts. To me, there’s nothing wrong with them, except maybe they aren’t playing by the rules or they are doing their own thing somehow of maybe deliberately being eccentric or a character.

A word normies use a lot is “eccentric.” Except when normies use it, it means you are crazy or weird in some disturbing or dangerous or seriously mentally ill way. Eccentric is one of the world things a normie can call you. Now me, I happen to like a lot of eccentrics. If you tell me someone is eccentric, you have told me nothing about this person. What am I supposed to think about them. Eccentric is a retarded insult. It is not even a good description. If you tell me someone is eccentric, I want to know some exact details. I want to precisely what this person is doing that makes you call them eccentric. Then I will make up my own mind if they are really eccentric or not.

Keep in mind that part of my work is in mental health. We don’t like to call people crazy, weird, eccentric or any of that. We are supposed to avoid using terms like that, first because they are insulting but second because they have zero explanatory value. Those words tell me nothing whatsoever about a human being. If you think someone is crazy, weird, or eccentric, no problem. But I want you to describe exactly what it is about this person’s behavior that makes you call them names like that.

Are you starting to get it?

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