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Alt Left: Identity Politics: The Politics for Those Who Will Always Be Six Years Old

You guys wonder why I hate Identity Politics so much? It’s because it’s all exactly like this. Take out women and plug in all sorts of other things:

Blacks (one of the worst practitioners of this bullshit of all):

Does that statement make Blacks look good? Yes ————————————————–> Statement is true.

Does that statement make Blacks look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.

I would add that almost all Blacks subscribe to this “moral philosophy.”

Gays

Does that statement make gays look good? Yes ——————————> Statement is true.

Does that statement make gays look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.

Transsexuals:

Does that statement make transsexuals look good? Yes —————————————————-> Statement is true.

Does that statement make transsexuals look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.

Men (MRA’s):

Does that statement make men look good? Yes —————————————————-> Statement is true.

Does that statement make men look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.

Whites (White nationalists)

Does that statement make Whites look good? Yes —————————————————–> Statement is true.

Does that statement make Whites look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.

Jews (They started this whole mess).

Does that statement make women look good? Yes —————————————————-> Statement is true.

Does that statement make women look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.

All nationalists ever anywhere:

Does that statement make my nation look good? Yes ——————————————————–> Statement is true.

Does that statement make my nation look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.

My position is that all IP is simply various forms of egotism blown up to encompass a larger group. It’s still all about me me me me me, but now it is about “Me as part of a larger group of people like me” instead of “me as a unique individual.”

So what all forms of idiot IP boil down to is

Me:

Does that statement make me look good? Yes —————————————————-> Statement is true.

Does that statement make me look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.

If you hung around humans long enough, you should have figured out that the primary purpose of the ego, in addition to mediating conflicts between the Id and the Superego, is to do exactly the thing outlined above – to preserve ego strength by saying that all criticism of the self is lies and all praise of the self is fact. The ego is a normal part of human psychology, but humans are supposed to get beyond the shallow egotism of childhood in order to take more responsibility for the self, become more secure, tone down the egotism, become more humble, and if possible, admit to some faults and try to change them. People who can’t do that pretty much stay six years old forever. We call them a lot of things, but one thing we call some of them is narcissists.

Look how retarded IP is! Why would anyone in the right mind sign up for any sort of bullshit IP “politics for six year olds?” Why? Because you never grew up? Because you love being paranoid? Because you love being a victim? Because you love being locked in eternal warfare with a dubious enemy Other? Because you love being pissed off and miserable your whole life? And most importantly because you reject logic, reason, and sense in favor or petty irrational emotionalism?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Solipsism Is a Core Aspect of Female Nature

One uncomfortable fact of life that any halfway wise and honest man who can hear and see figures out at some point in life (I didn’t figure this out until I was in my 50’s) is that females are naturally solipsistic. It’s their basic nature. The more you hang around with women and especially if you get into close and intimate relationships with them (and  the more the better) the more this becomes so starkly apparent that it is almost impossible to deny it. The only way you can deny it is by lying to yourself.

In other words, women, like most of us flawed humans, are all wrapped up in themselves most of the time. But then men, like most of us flawed humans, are all wrapped up in themselves too. Mother Theresas are like four leaf clovers.

The youngest ones of course are the worst of all. This starts around age 16 and certainly by 17 when a female finally recognizes herself as a sexual object for men (which she literally is no matter how much feminists complain). Hence the endless poses, standing in front of the mirror and now endless photos of themselves and even videos of themselves, often with all sorts of posing, the makeup, the outfits, etc.

All of this feeds the histrionic and solipsistic nature of the female to make herself up as a sex object for men who plays all sorts of roles. Hence the constant changes in hair color, style, makeup, clothing, etc.  – these can all be seen as constantly changing roles that women play in their sexual persona – which is frankly directed more at other women (presumably competitors?) than at men. Women have told me that women dress up, wear makeup, and change their outfits and hair all the time to impress other women, not impress men.

“Women dress up for other women. It’s to impress other women,” a particularly perceptive 43 year old blonde divorcee told me several years ago while openly flirting with me over a coffee at a Starbucks. “Men will fuck anything,” she told me, “There’s no need to pretty yourself up for men.”

That solipsism is an essential trait of the Female Character should not be taken as an insult. As in most things, the Female Character has a masculine corollary in the Masculine Character. Hence on the metric of selfishness (and all humans are selfish no matter what  you think, and necessarily so) the layout looks like this:

Character                  Masculine     Feminine

Trait

Self-centeredness    narcissism    solipsism

Men are naturally narcissistic, and woman are naturally solipsistic. Pick your poison. We are dealing with basically selfish humans here, and humans are flawed by nature from birth itself.

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Problems of the Arab Mind, with a Nod to Raphael Patai

Interesting comment on the site from this old post, which I really ought to run again. It sure would be nice to talk to this woman some more. I would like her to elaborate on her comments here. From the way she describes it, it is almost like Arab culture is an actual Culture of Narcissists, with most of the men being narcissistic mostly due to how they are raised. And yes the women are raised to feel inferior from the very start. This is the case in family life even from the early years. It is clear to the Arab girl growing up that the boys and men in the family are superior to the girls and women.

I totally agree with Robert. Being cunning while having no resources is natural to them. They also involuntary gaslight everyone around them 24/7, from business tactics to the closest people in their life (Yes, even family).

I am Latina and after being married to one and traveling to North Africa several times, I can assure you it takes their holidays of Ramadan to get them to actually help other people. They can walk right past a child dying of starvation and not offer and feel no remorse. They are unbelievably selfish to a point an American could never grasp. This is what allows them to get into relationships with other narcissistic Arabs. It’s sickening really because all women want is love, and a woman will never be happy married to an Arab for long.

They have an uncanny ability to manipulate and gaslight/brainwash people. It’s really fucking scary. All that charm with their good looks fucks your head up. They will break your spirit, disconnect your soul from your body, and hold it in a suspense state. I finally broke away after 13 years of loving and hoping he would change. I had to literally start recording our conversations because he would have me questioning my own sanity. When I was alone I would play those conversations back to myself because I honestly couldn’t remember at the time what was going on around me.

It’s all just so sad. I lost all those years living in CPTSD, and now I’m in total isolation. So what I’m saying is stay away from them as much as possible or you will be sucked in. Keep in mind I am a professional. I am a current member of SHRM and also a Human Resource Director.

The sad part is their women stand up for them because they were born and breed to be slaves via humiliation from the beginning. This is the way cults, the military, and other organizations manipulate their members to mind control them. These women don’t even know that they were born to gaslight themselves. Sad but true.

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High Self Esteem Does Not = Narcissism

Everybody thinks that high self-esteem and narcissism are the same thing. Maybe 90% of folks on the Net talking about narcissism believe this. They’re all wrong. Yes, all narcissists (NPD’s) have high self-esteem (too high really), but many people have high self-esteem who are not narcissists ( NPD’s)

By the way, I have an official opinion from my favorite therapist, a Clinical Psychologist i have known for years, that I do not have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Idiots on the Net call me “narcissist” all the time, but they do not understand the word. But I was concerned enough that I was getting called this that I contacted my old therapist. The reason was because I was worried I was a narcissist (NPD). Why worried?

Because to tell the truth, I really do not like narcissists or NPD’s too much. I have known a few of them, and they turn me off. Some of them are out and out awful. The idea that I am one of these people I dislike so much was concerning to me. I would like to point out that it is dubious if anyone with NPD would ever worry about being a narcissist. The fact that you are worrying about such a thing in the first place indicates that you are probably not one because narcissists just don’t do that.

My therapist said I have “high self-esteem” which he said is generally regarded as a sign of good mental health. Please note that in recent years there has been a lot of backlash against high self esteem, with a lot of people saying it is not as good as we thought it was.

I now recognize that most of my best friends and role models of old had high self-esteem. Few if any of them were actual narcissists.

Most physicians, attorneys, professors and others with high positions I have met have high self-esteem and big egos, but few of them seemed to be actual narcissists.

I have dealt with a few famous people in my life, as in people who have Wikipedia entries, and they had very high self-esteem. In fact, some were out and out arrogant assholes with egos the size of small planets. But I doubt even these pricks were actual narcissists. They were just typical famous people with huge egos. Having a huge ego is a typical outcome for famous people, and big egos are omnipresent among those holding high positions in the professions.

The thing that is missing is the abuse. Simply having an excessively elevated opinion of yourself is not a definition of narcissism. Yes, narcissists have this, but many non-narcissists do too. The non-narcissists have what is called “high self-esteem.”  The narcissists have behond high self-esteem on the Self-Esteem Highway off into full blown Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

My therapist also said that another word for self-esteem was narcissism. So people with low self-esteem actually suffer from low narcissism, most folks have ordinary levels of narcissism necessary for any healthy life and people with high self-esteem have what is called high narcissism, which as noted, is thought to be a good thing. The problem is that as your self-regard grows higher and higher, you start to care less and less about others.

Simply put, abuse is an integral part of any NPD diagnosis. You can have an ego the size of Jupiter, but if you are still a good person who is nice and kind to other people, there is no way on Earth that you get an NPD diagnosis because we think that you are functioning well.

No abuse, no narcissism.

I don’t engage in narcissistic abuse of others. I have healthy friendships and relationships with women ( some of the later even go on long-term, as in years) and I get along well with at least some family members. Narcissists don’t have healthy relationships. Their relationships are full of narcissistic abuse and all the crap that goes along with that.

 

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Response to Do Intelligent People Realize That They Are Smarter Than Anyone Else Surrounding Them?

Here is an unpleasant but typical response to my answer from Quora. This is such a typical response or answer that it could nearly be cookie-cutter. The IQ Forum is a great place for savants, geniuses, and other gray matter freakazoids to go on about their beloved secret secret, but sadly, it’s also badly invaded by IQ haters, almost all of them liberals.

You have to wade through endless tiresome pages of liberal screed and screed, of liberal snicker and snark about how IQ means nothing, how the tests don’t measure intelligence, how a high IQ only means you scored well on a test, how everything else in the world is important because IQ isn’t, how really high IQ people never talk about and those who do are not that smart (an American lie), how all of the other eight or 80 or 800 different types of intelligence are just as good as IQ, how everyone needs to shut up about IQ (so why are you in the IQ section?). 

You must wade through eye-drooping yawners such as the endless annoying conflation of intelligence and wisdom (which are not the same thing), the neverending remarks about the obvious, like how intelligence does not equate to success – duh, the repetitive copypastas of very high IQ (160) Stephen Hawking’s painfully retarded remark about IQ, the constant examples of high IQ fools, idiots and failures, over and over, drearily and boringly.

All of the liberal IQ-hating tedium and pablum, tirelessly reiterated and regurgitated like some liberal verbal perpetual motion machine, on and on, the same old liberal same old, the same tired liberal shit, the same snoozing Liberal IQ Denial which is really, let’s face it, Liberal Intelligence Denial.

This post, while perhaps well-intentioned, ironically comes off a bit arrogantly. You seem consumed with how smart you are—navel-gazing, in a way, and feel free to express this only in the safety of an online medium. It smacks of narcissism that you feel is too dangerous to express in the real world. I may have misgauged the tenor of your post but it seems superfluous and states the same thing in more than one way. We get it, you’re incredibly smart.

I also think there’s something fallacious about your conviction: while your IQ may be in the 99.99 percentile, this is only one way of measuring intelligence. Does your IQ mean you could be Beethoven, Steve Jobs, or even a civil rights hero not requiring “objective” genius? Of course not. Only a TINY percentage of the population can achieve those heights and it’s safe to say that IQ is only a small piece of the puzzle. Other factors, not reflected in an IQ test include creativity, emotional intelligence, memory, articulacy and language skills, charisma, and more.

IQ Hatred is the American disease. It’s deeply embedded in our culture.

Sigh. You just can’t escape the liberal IQ bigots, can you? Even on the Quora form IQ section which has been specifically set aside for us high IQ types as nearly the only place in society we can talk about these matters due to attitudes like the commenters, the IQ haters and IQ bigots swarm right into our safe space IQ bar nevertheless and start throwing chairs around and picking fights.

We know. We know we can’t talk about this shit. We know it’s a social faux pas. We know it’s a social violation. Mostly due to prejudiced liberals like the commenter. That’s why we mostly never talk about it, especially in public with folks we do not know well. Alas, even here in the IQ section of Quora, our one tiny safe place on Earth where we can go on and on about our brains, it turns out to be a damned social violation even here.

Narcissism which is kept hidden to yourself and hence invisible to anyone isn’t even narcissism.

Narcissism is NPD – a personality disorder.

Anything less than that is relegated to self-esteem. Narcissism and self-esteem are synonyms. High narcissism just means high self-esteem, and it’s generally seen as a sign of good mental health. Thinking you are hot shit or the cock of the walk or having a high opinion of yourself is not necessarily narcissism. In fact, many such folks have robust mental health.

Vain and conceited people are not necessarily narcissists. Most such folks simply have high self-esteem.

Having a big ego does not necessarily mean narcissism. Most such folks simply have big egos, often because they have been very successful.

I have dealt, usually fleetingly, with some pretty famous people in my life. Like have their own Wikipedia entries famous. Quite a few had huge egos, and arrogance was extremely common. You feel like you are talking to a 20 foot high marble statue staring down its nose at you from above. It’s a very humbling experience. Yet I think most were not narcissists. They just had egos the size of small planets, and often for a good reason.

Narcissists are assholes. All their self-esteem is for themselves, and there’s nothing left over for anybody else. They don’t care about others. They don’t like or love others much. As long as you still love other people and treat them well, you can have an ego the size of Jupiter and not be a narcissist.

The conflation of egotism/self-esteem with narcissism is ubiquitous in US society. Usually the folks doing it are fairly educated. But they all wrong, and many are even projecting.

Once again, “hidden” narcissism isn’t even narcissism because narcissism is pathological and is defined by causing interpersonal difficulties. If nobody can see it, it’s not doing anyone harm.

PS I work in mental health.

Not sure what the commenter’s IQ is, but I wonder if it is in the very high IQ range. I doubt it. Because you see, someone in that range would not have written his post because he doesn’t understand very high IQ people, probably because he is not one. I have met many very high IQ people and observed many others in my life. My whole family is high to very high IQ.

The thing about very high IQ people is that it is quite common for them to be very aware of this fact most of the time. And most of them love to talk about it if you get them alone, contrary to the American lie that if you talk about, you don’t have a high IQ because supposedly high IQ people do not need to talk about it.

Well, maybe they don’t need to, but a lot of them do talk about it, and I will bet you good money they were not lying about their scores.

In fact, it is quite normal for a very high IQ person to talk about it. I have courted and dated a number of very high IQ women, and every one of them loved to talk about this subject. Why not? If you are superior in some way, go ahead and take your pride. You deserve it.

They are extreme outliers in terms of IQ, and like most people with a superior talent, they tend to be a bit obsessed with it, which is normal, and I say good for them.

As IQ rises, it becomes more and more one of the most important things in their lives. Their intelligence is so far above average that they are nearly aliens, and this is jarringly apparent nearly everywhere they go. Their minds are always churning along like a Cray computer and that’s hard to ignore. You are being reminded of your super-brain all the time, every hour, and often more than that. So it ends up being on your mind a good part of the time because your super-brain takes over your world and starts coloring and changing everything about it via its distorted lens.

By the way, navel gazing isn’t narcissism either. It’s called solipsism, and yes, I am solipsistic. A lot of very smart introverts are. Nearly all females are. As you don’t like solipsists, I assume you don’t like females.

Lastly, IQ clearly does not correlate with success. My individual income last year was in the 27% bracket, and that’s the most money I made in my life. Nevertheless, such outcomes are not uncommon for very high IQ people, and as IQ rises above mine past 150 and especially to 160 and up, this problem gets so much worse. A lot of 160+ IQ men are single, celibate, never married, painfully introverted, and living in poverty or near poverty in a single apartment. It’s nearly a typical outcome.

Lastly, IQ is the only measure we have that measures intelligence.It is a test of, more than anything else, pure brain speed.

  • A higher IQ means a faster brain. 
  • It also means a more efficient brain. The higher the IQ, the better your brain utilizes glucose.
  • It also means a larger brain. As IQ rises, so does brain size.
  • Higher IQ also means superior abstract thinking.
  • Higher IQ means better short term and long term memory and also faster and better recall (to contradict the commenter’s statement about no tie between IQ and memory).
  • Very creative people tend to have high IQ’s. The best musicians and artists tend to have high IQ’s. I’ve known a lot of them.

Success in our society is not well correlated with intelligence, as society tends to value a lot of things more than sheer brains. This is the lesson of the commenter’s last paragraph where you discuss things IQ does not measure.

IQ is the only measure of intelligence that we currently have. It’s not that it’s only one of the ways – it’s the only way, period.

The commenter makes the mistake of correlating geniuses – Jobs, Beethoven, MLK – with very high IQ people in the genius category. 1% of the US is in the genius category. That’s 3.3 million geniuses in the US. Not all of them will grow to be the folks the commenter discusses of course. Geniuses like Jobs and Beethoven are very rare. Of course they also tend to be very high IQ, but just because you are one of the 3.3 million does not mean you are like Beethoven.

This is another mistake that Americans often make – conflation of genius in the sense of Mozart or Jobs with genius as an IQ metric = 140 IQ, just a place on the IQ highway. They are not the same, but people like the commenter conflate them all the time for some unfathomable doggoned reason.

Creativity: The most creative people tend to have high IQ’s.

Emotional intelligence: Right. Although EQ and IQ correlate fairly well, many very high IQ people are social retards or especially social failures. And as IQ rises, in fact, social failure, mostly due to sheer weirdness, rises.

Memory: IQ measures memory.

Articulacy and language skills: IQ measures language skills very well, articulatory skills, not much at all.

Charisma: Of course not and in fact as IQ rises into the very high IQ range, charisma drops off dramatically and reverse charisma such as open social failure sets in.

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Time Wounds All Heels

I was worried that I was a narcissist myself because I had a therapist who told me I was one, mostly because I happen to like myself a lot. So I sought out my best old therapist from the old days and asked him. He told me that I had “high narcissism” which just means “high self-esteem.” I am perfectly happy to have high self-esteem, but some people don’t like it. I have had girlfriends complain that I am “self-impressed.” My attitude is, “This is bad?” When I was young I remember a young woman maybe aged 18-20 once offhandedly said, “All men are vain,” in a world-weary tone of voice. She acted like it was some sort of basic fact of nature.

I don’t have NPD because I still care quite a bit about other people. But I have gotten the “You don’t care” thing from girlfriends before. One thing is just that I don’t need humans all that much. I won’t even call my best friends for long periods of time simply because I don’t need them. I mean I love them, but I would probably only call them if I needed them. I am quite happy by myself, and I don’t have huge needs for others. But girlfriends keep interpreting this as “you don’t care.”

What’s nuts is when they say this I am so crazy head over heels nuts in love with them it’s pitiful. I keep trying to tell them that, but they keep coming back with the “You don’t care” thing. I told my Mom and she said, “Oh, women are always saying their husbands don’t act like they love them.” Then she told me the story above about the guy who responded to his wife that the fact that he stuck around at all meant he loved her since if he didn’t love her, he would be gone in a New York minute. I think men and women have different ways of expressing love.

Generally speaking, when narcissism is excessive and you are turning into an asshole, it’s better to tone it down, and you will often become a better person as a result.

I watched a couple of documentaries about some rock stars who are now in their 40’s and 50’s. A couple were notorious for being arrogant, egotistical assholes. Actually I imagine it was more than a couple. But I noticed that so many of these guys had really toned it down at age 48-58. Even the ones who were serious arrogant assholes had seriously toned it down. They were so much more likeable as a result that it is hard to put it into words. A little bit of humility goes a long way.

A lot of people are pretty narcissistic, arrogant, egotistical and assholey when they are young. In particular, many young men in their 20’s and even into their 30’s are serious assholes. I like to say that the reason they are like is because they haven’t had enough bad things happen to them yet!

But usually by age 40, most people have toned it down. Arrogant people over age 40 are not common. The thing is that by age 40, most people have had about a million failures and bad things happen to them and not too many still think their shit doesn’t stink. With age comes humility. This is a rather normal life course for a lot of basically normal people who do not have any particular personality disorder, narcissistic or otherwise.

The problem with NPD is the narcissist hits 40 and has had a million failures and bad things happen to him, but instead of becoming humble, his response is to wildly ramp up the narcissism as a response to all of the narcissistic injuries or wounds that these bad things and failures caused. NPD’s also don’t take to aging very well. Aging is hard on anyone’s self-esteem, and to the narcissist it is positively confounding.

In other words, NPD’s do not follow the typical life course of increased humility with age.

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We Are All Narcissists Now

This is an older post that I fixed up and added a lot of new stuff too.

fMRI scans show that we’re most comfortable looking at faces similar to our own.

As you can see, we are always in love with ourselves. Even when we are in love with other people, we are really in love with ourselves.

In my opinion, everyone is somewhat narcissistic. It’s adaptive to a certain degree, especially among males. It’s only when it starts getting out of control that it is pathological.

Keep in mind that another word for narcissism is self-esteem. You either have low, moderate or high narcissism, which means you either have low, moderate or high self-esteem. High self-esteem in and of itself is not pathological and instead is typically seen as a sign of good mental health. However, they can seem a bit overbearing or too much, I would agree with that. These are the people who we say are egotistical, have huge egos, or are self-impressed.

Visualize a scale from 0-100. A score of 1 is the least narcissistic, most ashamed, guilty, self-effacing, self-denying, masochistic doormat around.

Anything above 50 and you are starting to get into the narcissistic without being pathological, high narcissism or high self-esteem folks, which is where a lot of males are anyway, and it’s definitely where I am. Here you find a lot of folks, mostly males, who are vain, conceited, self-centered and sometimes arrogant. They are friendly people, but people who get close to them, for instance female lovers, often complain, “You don’t even care about me.” As a matter of fact, this is a very common complaint that women in general make about their male lovers/spouses in general. They make this complaint because males tend to be more narcissistic than females.

A female friend of my mother’s once asked her husband, “Do you still love me? You never tell me that you love me anymore.” Her husband looked around at the room he was sitting in, looked back at her and said, “Well, I’m still here, aren’t I?” A classic male response. “Hey, if I didn’t love you or like you, I wouldn’t even stick around.” But that’s not good enough for women. Women want to be reminded. Males and females are capable of love, even intense love, for each other, but they often express it in different ways. Women fall in love and form relationships for attachment needs – needs that want and require continual reinforcement. Males fall in love and form relationships for other reasons.

When you start getting up around 70 or so, you get into some pretty pathological narcissism, but it’s not yet the nightmare world of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I had a friend on the Net who was very perverted and loved to talk about sex all the time. He was a bit of a swinger, and he had screwed countless females. He was also somewhat bisexual, as many male perverts are. We would get into long, dirty conversations on the Net, and he would tell me all about his life from a sexual point of view.

One very interesting story he told was that when he was a teenager, his parents hired a Thai maid. She slept in a bedroom next to his and they could sort of hear each other through the walls. He jerked off every night like most teenage boys. At some point, every time he jerked off, he heard strange noises coming from the maid’s room. After a while, he figured out that every time he jerked off, she was also masturbating in tandem with him and getting off herself. A great story!

But he would go on and on with these wild stories, talking a mile a minute like someone hyped up on speed. But the stories were all about him and his doings and goings on. I really didn’t mind because I am narcissistic myself and listening to others gets me out of my head for once. But he was definitely a self-centered person, and he was also pretty vain. These people can be annoying, but they are not a walking catastrophe.

The dividing line seems to be whether or not you care about others. As narcissism goes higher and higher, typically people care less and less about others. It’s as if we only have so much love inside of us. If we use up all of our “love potential” on ourselves, there’s nothing left for anyone else. I have no idea if this theory is correct, but it’s an interesting idea I thought I would toss out there.

Now we get to the NPD’s, the Narcissistic Personality Disorder types. These are simply a disaster. Some of them can be nice to some people if they choose to be, but in general, they are uncaring and not very nice. They brag constantly and can’t be bothered to do anything for you.

There are degrees of NPD. There is Mild, Moderate and Severe NPD. NPD is not incurable, but it is quite hard to fix. But some can get better if they work on it. I have known some NPD’s who made some decent progress. The NPD’s who get better become much less annoying and insufferable, show more insight into their behavior and in general simply become better and wiser human beings.

The reason NPD is so hard to fix is because most simply think there is nothing wrong with themselves and hence don’t think they need fixing. If you have NPD and are aware of it, look around at your relationships with others. Are they satisfying or dissatisfying? If they are dissatisfying, you might want to look at working on the NPD.

I had an NPD friend who made a big deal about how he was going to my father’s funeral, but then he never showed up. It turned out he didn’t even have a very good reason either. He just didn’t care. If it wasn’t about him, it was irrelevant. If you started talking about you, he would listen for a bit and quickly become bored and uninterested.

An NPD I have known for many years will ask, “So what’s been going on with you lately?” You start to tell them, and after about 15-20 seconds, they are already bored and looking around the room. Like most narcissists, this person is absolutely clueless about how and why they offend others or why so many people despise them and want nothing to do them. I finally cut this person out of my life after decades of trying to suck up to them, be nice to them, and get them to like me. They were always disappointing me, and it felt like they hated me. I blamed myself and said it was because I was such a loser: “If I wasn’t such a loser, they might like me better.”

After decades of this, I started acting about as crappy towards them as they did towards me. This caused this horrible person to have hurt feelings that I didn’t like them, which they tried to make me feel guilty about. This person was also 100% clueless about why I was returning his jerkiness in pure form. Mutual friends got on my case about why I was being “mean” to this family member. Apparently this person gets to be a shit to me for the rest of my life, and I’m evil if don’t kiss their ass, smile and refuse to fight back.

NPD’s are a nightmare. If you have an NPD in your life, you really need to think about maybe getting this person out of your life. Some of the NPD’s I have known have only caused me pain and damage in my life. It’s not worth it.

Going further along, you get to the Elliot Rodger type of Severe Narcissistic Personality Disorder. NPD’s are not typically violent, but they are definitely capable of it, especially if they are shamed or rejected – because they can’t handle any rejection. They may then commit acts of aggression, dishonestly, and even violence as revenge. Elliot Rodger is a case in point that shows how NPD at certain times can lead to violence, even extreme violence.

Beyond that we get into the real monsters. These are the malignant narcissists. Ted Bundy comes to mind. Others call these narcissistic sociopaths, among other terms. I don’t understand them very well, and I am not sure how this differs from pure narcissism or pure sociopathy. Obviously, these are some of the worst human beings on Earth, incurable and often highly dangerous. A number of serial killers have been diagnosed with malignant narcissism as opposed to sociopathy.

You might be interested to know that our own President Donald Trump is a classic malignant narcissist. Of course he is an awful person, and he is definitely dangerous. All malignant narcissists are dangerous by default, but they don’t always act out with violence extreme enough to get them in trouble with the law. There are controlled malignant narcissists just as there are controlled psychopaths.

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Delphi Murders Update August 30, 2017: Update on the Crime and a Profile of a Delphi Murders Suspect

New Delphi Murders Update!

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 1:

I am getting really sick and tired of saying this over and over, but most of the material below is made up of rumors and my own opinions and theories. None of that is represented as fact. Furthermore, I am not using rumors as reliable sources as has been alleged. I never said they were reliable sources. How reliable is a rumor? That’s for you to determine, but in general a rumor is not considered to be a reliable source, and they are not treated as such below.

 The rest of what we are reporting are in general our hypotheses about this crime. These hypotheses have changed several  times in the course of this investigation, but that’s the way all detective work is. If you don’t want to be wrong, don’t be a detective because being a detective is all about being wrong. So our hypotheses are just that. If you are not sure what a hypothesis is, go look it up. It’s just a guess or hunch that you are setting out to prove. We do not believe we have proved much about this crime yet, but we do have a lot of hypotheses going. All of those hypotheses are by their nature temporary and may be changed at any time. If they are born out, then they will become more permanent.

The only thing that is represented as fact are statements sourced from LE or the media. If you have issues with rumors, theories, opinions, hypotheses, etc., just quit reading right now and get off my site and don’t come back. You will not be missed!

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 2:

I thought I made this one thing perfectly clear as Richard Nixon used to say:

I have no sources whatsoever among the families of the girls.

I have no sources whatsoever in LE, local or otherwise. 

There ya go.

What I do have is sources close to the families. These people generally live in Delphi and the surrounding region. So that makes my rumors even more hearsay. I’m not even talking to the families. I am talking to people who talk to the families!

Of course I have no LE sources. I thought I made that clear. Never have. Yes, I have talked to some of them, but of course they didn’t tell me a thing. A couple of times they told me that a certain person was a POI or that a certain person had been cleared with an airtight alibi. I suppose they don’t mind giving out that information. But other than that, they don’t tell me jack. It’s hard enough to even get them to call you back. I think if I asked them if my name was Robert Lindsay, they would say, “I am sorry, but I cannot comment on matters relating to an ongoing investigation.” That’s how bad it is.

So what do I have? Once again, I have sources who are close to LE. They get their information from LE, then they talk to me. So once again this is even more hearsay, as I am not even talking to LE but to the people who are talking to LE.

I really wish people would quit claiming I have LE or family sources. I just don’t. If you think I have these sources or if  you have any problems at all with my sources, just quit reading my stuff right now and get off my site. You will not be missed!

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 3: The lies never end. The latest is “Lindsay takes other people’s theories and claims they are his own.” Of course I don’t. This website is nothing but a compendium of rumors from all over the Net regarding this crime. I go through the rumors and try to rank them on a scale of weak to strong. I compare them against other rumors to see which one is better. All sorts of theories have been flying around since day one. I report those too.

The theories are really just more rumors. I’d say the vast majority of the rumor theories reported here were thought up by other people. I find most of my theories on other sites about this crime. That’s how it works, you know. You get theories about the crime from others. Yes, you use your own theories, and you use other people’s theories. I really do not have time to down through the list of theories and say where I got them from. I have come up with a few of my own, but even with those, I guess someone else thought of them first. Also a lot of the theories here are also the result of constant brainstorming I do with my fellow sleuths. If you I “steal other people’s ideas” (a laughable concept in itself) or have problems with me reporting rumors, just get off the site right now. You will not be missed!

Notice: All of the really hot discussion and sleuthing on the site has headed over to the private password-protected forum, where our team of ~200 websleuths has been working on this case and has assembled a huge case against our suspect, including videos and many photographs. Instructions on how to get on the private forum.

This is a profile of a man who we feel is the best suspect in the double murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German in Delphi, Indiana on February 13, 2017. In also contains some new evidence on the crime and a new rundown of the crime itself.

New Information

But first of all, we have some new important information on a Vehicle of Interest in the crime.

More on the Vehicle of Interest in the case

In the last report, we detailed a vehicle we believe is the VOI in this case. The photo below is a photo of this VOI. This vehicle is a late model white Dodge Dart with paper plates. It was seen seven miles south of Delphi on the morning of the crime. We are not sure who the man in the photo is, but we feel he may be the man on the bridge. The woman who lived here thought this vehicle was suspicious, so she wrote down the license number.

We believe this license number with the paper plates was either stolen or given to this man in Kokomo. We traced the license plate back to Kokomo, but could not get any further information .

Previously we thought this man rented this car. We now believe that this man may own this vehicle.

The VOI in the crime is said to be a late model white Dodge Dart with paper plates. It was seen at the trailhead by a witness at ~3  PM on February 13., which was exactly the time that this crime was occurring.

As you can see, the vehicle in this photo and the VOI in the case have the same descriptions. Both are described as late model white Dodge Darts with paper plates. We believe that the car below is the same car that was used in the crime six hours later on the bridge in Delphi. It stands to reason that this man may be the man on the bridge, but we can’t prove that yet.

I can tell you who this man was visiting though. This man was visiting a woman’s son at this woman’s house. The son lives a ways away, but was visiting his mother at the time. The man in the white car was reportedly visiting a man named BH at this home. We have no information whatsoever on whether BH was involved in the crime that occurred later. At the moment, we have little reason to suspect that he was. However, he does have a criminal record and was arrested only a few days after the murders. We do not understand the relationship between BH and the man with the white car. We have no idea how they know each other or the reason for the visit that morning.

As we now believe that this car is owned by this man and not rented, we now believe that the man on the bridge may have used his own car to commit this crime. However, he tried to cover it up by putting fake paper plates over his real plates. We have a suspect who is rumored to drive a late model white Dodge Dart, but we have not been able to prove that he actually has a car like that. It’s only a rumor. We have been working to try to figure it out, but car ownership information is hard to come by.

There are new reports coming in that the VOI was seen by more people than this one woman. There are now reports that several people saw that car there at the bridge that day.

The reason we think the late model white Dodge Dart with paper plates is the VOI is because to our knowledge, this is the only car seen that day that has not been cleared.

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Reportedly a photo of a white compact car near the Monon Bridge on the day of the murders. However, this car does not match up to the white vehicle photographed in front of the woman’s house. There are suggestions that this photo may not even have been taken on that day or in that place. It has been traced back to a woman who is trying to frame her ex husband for this crime, so this photo may simply be a photo of his vehicle. Bottom line is this photo has no relevance to this case.

Despite the red herring and the dead end regarding the photo above, we are hearing that more people are coming forward saying that they say a white late model Dodge Dart with paper plates at the bridge around the time of the crimes. But no photos have emerged yet of this vehicle at Monon Bridge that day.

There are different stories regarding the woman who took these photos and the man in the photo. The woman was reportedly shown a number of photos of different men and asked if any of them were the man with the white car. When shown a photo of our suspect, the woman supposedly pulled her car over to the side of the road,  leaned out the car door and vomited. So she had a very violent involuntary reaction to a photo of our suspect. However, before this happened, she was shown a number of photos of possible persons who the man by the white car might be, and the woman was saying yes to all of them. Obviously they are not all the man by the white car. Unfortunately, this witness has serious credibility issues

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Photo of Vehicle of Interest (VOI) 1. Photo taken in the early AM seven miles south of Delphi, Indiana on 2-13-17, eight hours before the Delphi murders occurred in that same town. The person was at a woman’s house visiting the woman’s son, a man named BH. An identical vehicle was seen at the crime scene at the time of the crime. We believe that this may be the vehicle used by the man on the bridge in the crime. We believe that the man in this photo may be the man on the bridge. The license # is written on the photo.

More About the Home Where the Photo Above Was Taken

Unfortunately, this woman’s home and life’s involvement in this tale is not over. The day before the killings, two persons came over to visit her daughter, MA. These persons were KC and TJF. The two picked up MA and took off to go to the woods by the bridge supposedly to cook up methamphetamine. The notion that there were meth cookers in the woods that afternoon led to all sorts of what I call the Meth Theory. Most involved these dealers and cookers and apparently the three people above, killing the two girls for all sorts of possible reasons, mostly that the girls happened upon the meth cooking operation. These theories in general are no good and I reject all of them.

Nevertheless over the period of 2-12 AM and 2-15 PM, these three were gone and were reportedly cooking meth at some point during this time frame, but it’s not known exactly when or where. All of these people were high out of their minds on meth and heroin for three days and all used a benzodiazepine that is known for pretty much erasing your memory. The daughter, MA, came home late on 2-15 beaten up and complained that she had been beaten and gangraped and some point over this period.

People thought this may have happened in the woods, maybe when the girls were being killed, but this gang rape probably occurred elsewhere, probably in someone’s home. At the same time, there is rumored to be a photo of a group of men on their knees with their pants down kneeling around the body of a naked woman. For some time, people wondered if this was a photo of what was done to the girls, but now it appears that if this photo exists, it depicts this gang rape of MA and not any rape or murder of the girls.

MA  was reportedly a willing partner in this gang rape, as it was done as a gang initiation to initiate her into some gang.  The gang appears to be an Aryan Brotherhood White Supremacist organization, but it is not the AB. Instead it is some local group not affiliated with them. After the initiation, MA become the property of the gang and they could do whatever they wanted to with her. They could sell her, give her away to other people, force her to prostitute herself, all sorts of things. As a result of the gang rape in which KC probably participated, MA was given to KC by the gang. Her boyfriend for the next ~6 weeks was KC, but apparently she was forced into this relationship.

When MA returned home, the woman called the police on all of them. KC was arrested that day on 2-15 on meth charges.

In the aftermath of the three day ordeal, MA reportedly confessed in part to the murder of the girls. She stated that she “wanted to know what it felt like to stab someone, so she stabbed someone.” She did not know who she stabbed, when or where. Furthermore, all of their minds were as good as erased for the three day period due to the benzo ingestion. I am not sure if her confession has been turned into police. We believe this is a false confession, the result of a beating, a gang rape and three days of heavy drug use. Anyway she has no details about this “stabbing.” Further, MA does not seem capable or murdering those girls. KC and TJF are pretty lousy men, but from what I know about them, I can’t see them murdering these girls, especially for no particular reason.

The woman has been interviewed by both the FBI and the Indiana State Police. We do not know what has come of this, but our information now is that LE does not believe the Meth Theory of the murders is a valid hypothesis.

As far as MA goes, at some point, she was sold to a man up in Wisconsin. She had to go up there and live with this man who bought her for a month or so. Later she was in rehab. This woman makes a lot of dubious choices, has terrible friends, and has gotten herself into a heap of trouble, but I don’t think she’s a murderer.

The Actual Murders

Rumors

The following consists of a number of rumors about how the girls were killed. Most of these rumors have not yet been validated and should be taken with a huge grain of salt. However, the rumors in italics are apparently true to the best of our knowledge:

Probably or Fully True Rumors

Both girls were disrobed either partially or fully. One was naked, but the other had a top on. Both girls were bottomless, and the panties of both girls were found at some distance from the crime scene. Some of the girls’ clothing was found in the creek.

One girl had the top half of her body covered with leaves.

There was blood and dirt under Liberty’s nails and dirt under Abbie’s nails. Abbie’s nails were badly torn up.

Police believe that Libby had 4-5 chances to escape, but did not flee because she was so dedicated to her friend that she vowed to not leave her friend in this horrible state with this monster. In real life, they were inseparable.

One or possibly both girls had their throats slit. One girl’s throat was so badly cut that she was nearly decapitated.

More Uncertain but Plausible Rumors

At some point, at least one of the girls was stricken with the blunt end of a gun.

At least one of the girls had the back of her head badly bashed in with a heavy object, possibly a rock.

One girl had a knife wound to the heart and another wound to the jugular vein in her throat.

The stake to the stomach is one of the reasons for the consistent rumors that one of the girls was pregnant. It is not known if either girl was in the early stages of pregnancy, however this is a persistent rumor that we have not been able to refute despite our best efforts to do so. The rumor initially stated that one girl was pregnant, but now it says that the other girl was pregnant. Another rumor is that part of the attack was set off by the killer becoming enraged when he found out one girl was not a virgin. We have been trying very hard to refute the pregnancy rumor but have been unable to do so. At the moment, we have no idea at all if either girl was pregnant. It’s a black hole.

The killer used some sort of strong chemical to try to destroy any of his DNA left at the scene.

The girls were  “posed” in the crime scene.

New Rumors

There are some shocking new rumors that have recently surfaced.

The blockbuster is from the wife of an LE officer who was working on the case. Her husband could not sleep at night, and he finally broke down and told her what was done to the girls. The LE officer reported that branches or bundles of sticks had been shoved into the girls’ vaginas and anuses. Furthermore, the girls had numerous stab wounds and branches or stick bundles were shoved into these too.  There has been a long standing rumor that one of the girls had a stake rammed into her from above. We have been attacked viciously for reporting this. We have tried very hard to negate this rumor, but we have never been able to do so. Now with this new rumor, it finally seems that there was something to the stake rumor all along.

Another is the involvement of a large knife with a gut hook in this crime. After the crime happened, LE were asking around at local hardware stores if anyone had bought a large knife with a gut hook recently. They asked this at the CVS near the bridge. There are two possibilities here. One is that a knife like this was used on the girls and LE were able to determine this by looking at the nature of the wounds. The other possibility is that the killer used this knife in the crime and then left it at the scene for whatever reason. At the moment, we favor the theory that the knife was left at the scene by killer, but there’s no hard evidence one way or the other.

We also have new information about the witnesses who saw the Bridge Man in the area that day who were used to draw the composite. One wonders where the witness(es)  saw the Bridge Man. One rumor says he was seen parked in his car next to the cemetery. The other stories are simply that a few people saw the Bridge Man around the bridge at that time.

The Bridge Man and Our Suspect: Too Many Coincidences

We believe that the Bridge Man is wearing boots from the Indiana Packers plant in town. The suspect formerly worked at Indiana Packers for a significant period of time from the mid-90’s to mid 2000’s and may have retained work boots from that job.

We believe that the Bridge Man is a fisherman. The suspect is an avid fisherman almost to the point of obsession and fanaticism.

The Bridge Man is definitely left-handed. The suspect is also left-handed. Actually he is ambidextrous, but he prefers his left hand.

The Bridge Man is bowlegged. The suspect is also bowlegged, probably from extensive horse riding as a youth. We have a photograph of the suspect next to a horse. The suspect grew up right around the area of the crime in the vicinity of a lot of horses.

The Bridge Man is duck-footed; that is, his feet go outward when he walks. The suspect is also duck-footed.

The Bridge Man has an injury to his left knee which is obvious in the moving gif’s of him walking on the bridge. The suspect also has a serious injury to his left knee, has several deep stitches on it, and sometimes wears a knee brace. We have a photograph of the suspect’s scarred left knee and a photograph of the suspect wearing what appears to be a knee brace on his left knee.

The Bridge Man is 50-60 years old. The suspect is 52 years old.

The Bridge Man is 5’8-5’10 and weighs 180-220 pounds. The suspect is 5’8, and when last weighed was 170 pounds, but that was a few years ago, and he seems to have gained weight after his recent release from prison.

The Bridge Man appears to be in good shape for his age based on the way he easily navigates the rickety, frightening bridge. Being an avid outdoorsman, the suspect has been in great shape his whole life, but he has developed a paunch as a recent middle-aged development.

The Bridge Man smokes and is smoking during the crime. He may also smoke cigarillos, as a cigarillo wrapper was found at the scene. The suspect also smokes, and he does smoke cigarillos. We have a video of the suspect smoking a cigarillo.

We believe that a white compact vehicle may have been used by the Bridge Man to commit this crime. The suspect was photographed the night before the crime in Indianapolis, and the photographs were posted to a social media page the night of the crime. We have two of these photographs. In one of these photographs, the suspect is standing next to a white compact car. We believe that this photograph was used by the suspect to foreshadow the crime he intended to commit the next day by leaving a tantalizing clue, which is something that he loves to do.

In the number and strangeness of the tantalizing clues this suspect leaves about his crimes, the suspect resembles the Zodiac Killer, the BTK Killer and others. The suspect also likes to ridicule and mock LE. If this case ever goes to trial, it may go down in history on the same level as those other crimes where the criminal left clues behind to tease and taunt LE.

We have quite a few more coincidences between the suspect and the Bridge Man, but we do not want to release that material now due to fears of harming the investigation. All of our material was officially turned over to LE on Friday, July 21.

More about the Man on the Bridge

Although the Bridge Man is said to be wearing a fanny pack in the bridge photo, he is actually wearing what is called a deer kit. This typically contains scissors, knives, etc. for cutting up the game that the hunter has killed, and the Bridge Man’s pack may have contained similar items. He may have used some of these items to cut up the girls.

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The fanny pack. We now believe that this is something called a deer kit. These kits are used by hunters to cut up their deer, and a gut hook knife is indeed one of those knives. Another is called a caping knife. They usually contain five different types of knives. We believe that BG may well have up to five different types of knives in that deer kit.

We know the Bridge Man is left-handed because we believe he has a left-handed gun holster strapped to his right side with a semiautomatic pistol in it. We believe we have now have photos of a holster very similar to the one that the Bridge Man is wearing. We believe he is wearing a vintage leather lefthanded holster. We believe it was made by the Amish and BG purchased it from the Amish. Photos of a very similar holster follow.

Photo #1.

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This is the type of gun holster used by Bridge Man.

Photo #2.

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View of Bridge Man’s type of gun holster, the exact model no doubt.

Photo #3.

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Apparent closeup on the material in the model of gun holster that Bridge Man is wearing.

Photo #4.

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Another view of Bridge Man’s type of gun holster.

We know the Bridge Man has a gun on him as it can clearly be seen in outline under his jacket.

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Click to enlarge. Photo clearly shows a semiautomatic handgun holstered on his right, which means he is lefthanded. That object can only be a gun.

We believe that the Bridge Man gun is an M1911 early model, pre-1986. As far as how this gun was acquired, one theory is that this gun was purchased also from the Amish, as they have many such guns available for cheap. The other possibility is that the Bridge Man stole this gun from Ron Logan of all people. In December, Logan had many guns stolen from his house by a young druggie woman he had living there. If this gun is stolen from Logan, it may be from this heist as no doubt these stolen guns were distributed around. We are not sure at the moment which of these two theories is true or even if either of them are. However, we believe that the type, model # and year is correct, and the ultimate provenance of this gun may well have been via a purchase from the Amish.

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Photo of the type of gun we believe was used in the crime. This is an early model pre-1986 Smith and Wesson M1911 semiautomatic handgun.

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I believe that this is the type of gun that BG used. This is an M1911 semiautomatic pistol pre-1986, originally purchased from the Amish, who have many of these for sale. It also may have been recently stolen from Ron Logan.

As you can see above, the Bridge Man has three different objects that we believe may have been purchased from the Amish. We believe that the Bridge Man has some connection to the Amish community. He is either Amish himself (possibly shunned Amish) or he grew up around the Amish and German Baptists and knows them very well. Indeed, we believe the Bridge Man grew up in Delphi not far from where the crime occurred.

One of the keys to the crime is: Amish, shunned Amish, German Baptists.

Next we move on to another object in the Bridge Man’s possession that has caused a lot of puzzlement. No one quite seems to know what this object is. We had a few hypotheses of what it was, but they did not test out well. We believe we have now settled on an excellent theory of what this object is. See the photo above and also the longer distance photo of the Bridge Man above to see this object for yourself. It is definitely there. It is a strange rectangular object that is somehow strapped to the Bridge Guy’s left pants leg.

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Here is the rectangular object under BG’s left jeans leg. It is in light blue. The red circle is around some unknown object.

When we blew up the photo, at first all we saw was a strange “W” object. We had no idea what it was.

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This is our initial enhancement of the rectangular object. We thought it had a W object in it, and we had no idea what that was.

One of our sleuths asked at work and a woman at work said she thought it was something called a “net fishing bag” that fishermen sometimes use. She had one herself.  But we still needed to explain the rectangular object that the net fishing bag did not explain it well.

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This is a net fishing bag. We believe that this is the object that appears rectangular under BG’s jeans.

Upon rotating the object, we were able to see it better. Now we could see the bag shaped object (the net fishing bag) enclosing the rectangular object. But what was the rectangular object. Via this view, we decided that the rectangular object was a knife carrying kit with knives in it. We counted three knives in the kit and based on the shape, we felt that they were fishing fillet knives. So the rectangular object is a net fishing bag with a knife carrying kit inside with three fishing fillet knives.

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This is the rectangular object, enhanced and rotated to the lect. Now we can not only see that the object is not really rectangular but is instead more bag shaped.

The photo below shoes some of the type of knives that may be inside of this knife kit.

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Knife case with three knives in it. We believe that a similar case is the rectangular object. I assume that the knives can be secured in the holder in some way or sheathed. I assume that there are knife cases like this which lock or close. In that case, we solve the problem that “no one would carry knives in the bag like that because they might get cut.” If they are in a secured knife case or sheathed, the knives are safe and are very unlikely to injure the person barring catastrophic circumstances (hit by a car, long fall from a high place, etc.) Even then a locked case would no doubt stay intact.

If this theory of the object is valid, more things become clear. The Bridge Man may well be a fisherman. After all, he has a fishing kit on him. He may also be a hunter based on the deer kit. On the other hand, deer kits like that are sometimes also called fisherman’s kit.

We believe another key to the crime is fishing, fish and fishermen.

Next we will move onto the Bridge Man’s boots. First of all, we believe he is wearing boots and not sneakers or tennis shoes. The boots are black. Notice the white stripe going all around the boots?

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Closeup of Bridge Guy’s boots. Look at the white stripe around them.

Now look closely at the boots below. Several days after the crime, LE released this photo of these boots in an evidence bag. Then they said that the boots had nothing to do with the crime, but LE always says things like that. A couple of days before, Indiana State Police had raided Indiana Packers. The stated reason was a bomb threat, but we believe there was no bomb threat. Instead that was just an excuse to shut down the plant and raid the police. After LE were done with the raid, they walked away with a pair of Indiana Packers workboots.

A few days later, a photo of these IP boots is released innocently to the media, however, they are in an evidence bag. Obviously LE felt that these were the model of boots that the Bridge Man was wearing. When we blow up the Bridge Man’s boots, we see now that his black boots with the white stripe all around them are an excellent match for the IP boots in the evidence bag.

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Black shoes with white stripe. This is a perfect match for BG’s shoes. These shoes came from Indiana Packers. These are Indiana Packers work boots that everyone has to wear there. So BG was wearing Indiana Packers workboots.

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Here is a side by side comparison of the Bridge Man’s boots and the Indiana Packers boots seized by LE during a raid, placed in an evidence bag and released to the media. That the Bridge Man is wearing Indiana Packers boots is a good theory based on the evidence.

The blowup of the Bridge Man below is interesting for two reasons. First of all, he is not smoking something in that photo. The cigarette in the right of his mouth was Photoshopped in. It is not known if the smoke on the left side of his face was also faked. However, one thing is obvious in this photo and in any photo of the Bridge Man, and that is his massive nose

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Blowup found on the Net that reportedly shows the Bridge Man smoking. This is now thought to be a Photoshopped fake, or at least the cigarette on the right side of his mouth is faked. There also appears to be some smoke on the left side of the Bridge Man’s face here. It’s not known if that smoke is real or faked. Bottom line be careful of this photo.

However, look at the composite below. See any massive nose? Of course not. So what gives?

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Composite photo of the Delphi Killer suspect.

Look back at that huge nose in the blowup. But no matter. It’s huge in any video of the Bridge Man. Many have remarked on his huge nose. But he has no huge nose. His nose is quite average. Solution to the problem? Simple, the Bridge Man is disguising himself by wearing a fake nose! Wa-la! Problem solved.

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A fake nose similar to the one the Bridge Man is wearing. This may be purchased for ~$5 online. One of my fellow sleuths has suggested that BG has a fake nose. A group of women on one of the saner Delphi Murders pages on Facebook first suggested this theory to me and I believe they made a good case for their argument. He’s disguising himself.

The motivation for this crime is hard to figure out, but we suspect it may be similar to many serial killers. Although there is no evidence yet that the Bridge Man has killed other people beyond this crime, he certainly may have. Hence we believe the Bridge Man is a “serial killer type” instead of a serial killer. In that case, the motivation for the crime is that of a sexually sadistic psychopathic serial type killer.

We know much more about the Bridge Man but are not releasing it due to fears of harming the investigation. All of this information was officially turned over to LE on Friday, July 21.

The Suspect

Suspect’s Background and Life Story

The suspect resides within a 20 mile radius of Delphi.

The suspect is a former resident who grew up in Delphi right around the area of the crime and still knows all of the landowners around there, including Ron Logan, Marvin Sandifur, the Mearses, and Ivan Brumbaugh. The suspect is either Amish (shunned), German Baptist or is strongly associated with one of those communities. He knows the area around the crime scene, including Logan’s land, Deer Creek itself, and the bridge like the back of his hand.

The suspect has a low education level but probably graduated from high school.

The suspect had a very messy divorce with his ex-wife, including violent child custody issues. The suspect did a short stint in prison for badly assaulting his ex-wife.

The suspect has a long record of mostly minor crimes with some jail stints and one short prison stint. All crimes were committed in Indiana. Crimes were mostly repeated drunk driving but also assault and harassment charges. All of his ex-wives have no-contact orders against him, which implies domestic violence on his part in each case.

In terms of crimes for which he has not been caught, he has been accused of petty theft. We also have suspicions that he may have been t\involved in arson, perhaps multiple arsons and that one or more of these arsons has resulted in homicide. We believe he may be a serial killer, and we suspect he may have been involved in at the very least one other multiple murder in the local area, although we cannot prove it and don’t have much evidence along those lines. We are currently investigating his background to look for other possible crimes he may be tied to, especially arsons and homicides.

The suspect is no longer employed and we believe he is on disability, but in the past he worked at different jobs, including handyman and electrician.

Suspect – Social Aspects

The suspect has strong, warm feelings towards his two grown children and seems to have a great relationship with them.

The suspect has a new girlfriend about his age who may be a native ethnic White of the region. She is a kind, sweet, gentle lady who absolutely adores the suspect and nearly worships him as a god. They appear to have a stable, warm, loving relationship. She is apparently completely clueless about his dark side.

Relations with the ex-wife are not known. Some say that the suspect has strong hatred for his ex-wife, but this is uncertain.

The suspect has a circle of warm friends with whom he has good relations. These are very masculine, tough, hard, outdoorsy men of about the same age who think he is completely on the up and up. We believe he’s fooling them all.

The suspect can seem quite warm and friendly, “like your best friend.” He is easy to befriend, when befriended seems charming and disarming, and seems increasingly harmless the more you get to know him.

Suspect – Psychological Profile

The subject has Axis 2 Cluster B pathology. The suspect is a psychopath and has narcissism/Narcissistic Personality Disorder/Malignant Narcissism. He has no Axis 1 Disorders. He is not psychotic. In fact, he is very sane, almost too sane, and that is part of how he gets away with his crimes. There are no signs of mood disorder. The suspect appears calm with little or no anxiety issues.

The suspect is strongly heterosexual. Although rage and hatred towards females seems apparent with the crime the suspect may have committed, these feelings are otherwise not obvious in his life. The suspect sometimes displays hostility to women. A lot of men do this when provoked, but he does it with little provocation, and his reactions are quite extreme, often including rape and death threats.

The suspect is very masculine in the manner of many middle-aged men in the area. He is a hard, tough man who uses foul language and has a rough and sometimes menacing way of speaking.

The suspect seems normal, but the following concepts also describe him well: sneaky, devious, unreadable, slick, bad boy, naughty, playful, outlaw, gleam in his eye, and rebellious. He appears to be hiding something or keeping a secret. There is a general feeling of what you see is not what you get.

The suspect is the ultimate chameleon. He is an enigma, puzzling and hard to figure out, an actor who sees life as a series of roles. He does not appear suspicious to most observers. Instead he hides in plain sight and blends right in with society. He is very capable of fooling people, an Academy award-winning actor who sees life is an endless series of roles to be played based on whatever the needs of the given situation may be.

The suspect is capable of fooling people so easily because he is a sneaky, devious, underhanded, conspiring and plotting man. Most of his actions are well plotted and planned, even calculated to the point of being choreographed. The suspect displays little spontaneity other than regular rages.

His IQ is surely within the 84-116 normal range (2/3 of the population) and probably within the 90-110 range (half the population), though he may be towards the lower end. However, the suspect is much more intelligent than he appears and possesses a sheer animal, devious, and cunning intelligence. In terms of this sort of intelligence, he has a genius IQ. He is a very hard man to fool, and he is an expert at reading others.

The suspect has a violent hair-trigger temper which can be set off at any time with little provocation. Although he has committed acts of serious violence in the past, this temper nevertheless generally takes a verbal rather than physical form and consists of menace, threats, stalking, harassment, terrorizing and intimidation.

The suspect takes little or no responsibility for his actions and blames others for everything. He attacks others and then claims to be acting in self-defense.

The suspect is a pathological liar. Reactions when caught in his pathological lying are temper tantrums, rage, ranting, and veiled threats via angry and menacing language.

In his court cases, the suspect engaged in shameless, pathological, defensive lying and blaming of others.

The suspect has the following life themes:

  • You can’t win.
  • They’ve got it in for me.
  • Life is a game.
  • I’m fooling them.

Suspect – Verbal Style

The suspect has a versatile verbal style and can seem sentimental, poetic, moving and even philosophical. He is capable of fooling people into thinking he is a person who cares deeply about life’s small and kind wonders.

Verbal defenses are denial, rage, rants, and especially redirection. Other defenses include an excellent ability at distracting people and directing attention away from what is important. For this, he utilizes red herrings, irrelevancies, redirection, minor details, fussing, wrong turns, wrong directions, wrong way streets, and misdirection.

The suspect is also a storyteller and likes to tell long, rambling, colorful, Mark Twain-style stories that tell it like it is about what seem to be ordinary people and communities but in fact are anything but. He can be entertaining in this role. He turns off some who find him a quasi-literate blowhard, but others find him endearing, as his stories could be seen as charming.

Suspect – Appearance, Lifestyle, Habits, Beliefs and Opinions

Appearance

The suspect has one large tattoo on his upper right front shoulder. We do not know what this is a tattoo of.

Lifestyle

The suspect has some sort of gang ties with the Aryan Brotherhood (AB), possibly as a result of his incarceration. We have photographs of the suspect throwing Aryan Brotherhood gang signs. Nevertheless, we have little evidence that he is a White Supremacist, and on his social media pages, he comes across as an anti-racist, even a coastal liberal variety. He may have only joined the AB for protection in prison.

The suspect appears to be a carefree practical joker who lives a playful, laid back, easy-going lifestyle where most things are jokes, and little is to be taken seriously. He is the life of the party.

Habits

The suspect is a regular drug user. He mostly uses marijuana, which he enjoys a lot.

The suspect was formerly a very heavy drinker, and many problems, especially legal ones, resulted from this. We believe he may now be sober.

Beliefs and Opinions

The suspect’s philosophical outlook can be summed up as a cynical one that humans are lowly animals who are corrupt at their core and are driven by low, base interests. He accuses LE and small town government people in the local area of being incorrigibly corrupt. His reaction to the picture he paints of Tobacco Road sleaze in the underbelly of Mayberry RFD small town White America is offended, cynical, fatalistic and somewhat disgusted – the good citizen outraged by omnipresent sleazy corruption.

The suspect has a very low opinion of LE in Delphi and the surrounding area, as he claims that they ran him out of town as a habitual drunk driving offender. He has a grudge against local LE.

The suspect’s political beliefs are quite liberal. He comes across as an aging hippie type, unusual for Indiana.

Suspect – Role in the Investigation

The suspect has inserted himself deeply in the investigation to an almost unprecedented degree. He is now one of the most well-known people who are “trying to find the killer.” We believe he is doing this in part to try to divert attention away from himself, but another factor seems to be narcissism, possibly even Malignant Narcissism, which means he can’t help himself. He loves the limelight and the sound of his own voice and is something of a publicity hound. We al so believe he likes the idea that he is hiding right under the noses of everyone and getting away with it and thinks this is all some sort of a joke.

The suspect’s attitude towards the investigation is hard to figure. We believe he is nervous and fearful of being caught but also sees the whole thing as a hilarious game of cat and mouse. He’s thinks he’s fooling LE and all of society, getting away with murder, and hiding right under their noses. He also seems to be playing a game of, “Neener neener. I’m the killer, and you’ll never catch me ha ha!” In this sense he resembles the Zodiac Killer and the BTK Killer.

The suspect sought out LE (FBI) early in the investigation in order to leave a tip. We have a video of him calling in this phone tip.

We believe he did this as part of a plan to frame an innocent man. We believe he was originally going to commit this crime and then lay low, but that changed after he was photographed and recorded on audio. Over the next month we believe he then formulated an elaborate case to try to frame an innocent man, a former workmate who he had had a falling out with. This consisted of a very long and elaborate theory which did not make much sense on examination. Further, the man he attempted to frame did not seem like the type to do such a crime. The suspect also included a number of videos as part of this plan. He then went out on the Internet and tried to promulgate this theory on a number of websites and on Facebook and Youtube. He was fairly successful at this until some people started catching on to his scheme.

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Lies of My Haters

I wasn’t going to answer this stuff, but I think I really need to because this poison just keeps going around, and it needs to be countered. Every time I counter this stuff, it never seems to help with the haters, and it seems like it just makes them hate me even more. All of my explanations are warped into more proof that I am sick and evil.

Here is the entire thread. I will go through this bit by bit.

New to this sub…the threads at WS are way too long and rehashing the same discussions over and over, so I admit I am a little out of the loop on this case. Glad to have found this sub though. Anyway, I was doing some reading today on this case and came across blog by a guy named Robert Lindsay. He claims he has all of these inside sources that tell him rumors that he is “100% sure are true”.

He also states rumors as facts, which is super-unprofessional. His claims sound like a huge load of bullshit to me. He also seems kind of creepy to me…a little TOO involved/obsessed with the case. His blog made me uncomfortable to read honestly. Has anyone else come across his blog? If so, what do you guys think? Sorry if this isn’t allowed.. mods please feel free to delete.

How many times do I have to repeat that my beliefs are my beliefs only, and that things are that I believe, even with full confidence, are still simply beliefs which can be proven wrong at any time as any non-fact can? I don’t state rumors as facts. This is one of the most pernicious lies about me, and I am really sick of it.

I am really tired of the line that I say that I have all these inside sources. I have no inside sources whatsoever. I have no LE sources whatsoever. I have almost no sources in the families. All I have is locals who work with me and tell me whatever the latest dirt that is flowing around is. If you don’t like my theories, you hillbillies need to go look in the mirror. All my theories came right out of Delphi and the surrounding area. The problem is you, not me. You’re the ones who came up with these ideas.

The idea that I am too involved in the case is sickening. What’s this supposed to imply? That I get off on this sort of thing? This is another lie that I hear all the time. No, I do not get off on this sort of thing. I am sure many men do though, mostly in their fantasy lives. I am not a sexual sadist, and I don’t really enjoy sadistic porn, although I have seen it. I am not even really into S/M, B/D, which is becoming a legitimate Cultural Left orientation.

It’s just not my thing. I don’t have sexual fantasies that involve raping and murdering women. Of course I have sexual fantasies about all sorts of things, but rape and murder sex is just not my bag. Never have. I don’t do it, and don’t wish to do it. It doesn’t get me off. At all. This is libelous, by the way. You have no idea what my sexual proclivities are. The idea that you can read my stuff and figure out what gets me off sexually is crazy. This is an example of retarded thinking. You wonder why very high IQ types get sick of normal IQ folks. Because we have to deal with their retarded thinking all the time. This type of retarded thinking is called:

  • If you write about it, then you like it and/or do it.
  • If you talk about it, then you like it and/or do it.
  • If you write or talk about things that a type of person does, then you are one of those types of people.

It’s one of the stupidest types of retard thinking out there, but the majority of people think exactly this way. It’s also extremely Normie way of thinking, and Normies suck.

It made you uncomfortable to read because I discussed some of the gruesome rumors surrounding what happened in this crime. These are rumors now, but we will learn the facts one day. There’s nothing creepy, sick or evil in reporting what rapist-murderer maniacs did to their victims. Nothing at all. It’s simply reporting facts. Yes, the facts of rape-murders are typically gruesome and awful, but they are still facts, and there’s nothing wrong with discussing the details of horrible crimes.

[–]heavymetalismetal 24 points 28 days ago
He’s just out to make a buck off of gullible, lonely, bored people. He states he has all these degrees and credentials, but he does not have steady employment. He whines about his car repairs and his broken air conditioning. Reminding people that if they want to comment on his blog they should pony up.

Latest I read was when he accused Libby’s much older uncle having a sexual relationship with her and that Abby was pregnant by her thirteen year old boyfriend, so they kidnapped the girls, took them to a barn, tried to give Abby a DIY abortion, but whoops! Things got out of hand so the girls were murdered to shut them up.

And I also love the post he made about what he would do with the reward money once he got it.

His blog is like watching a car accident, I tune in just to see if he’s been charged with something yet.

I’m out to make a buck! I’m out to get rich! Last year I made $14,000. It’s been that way for many years. What’s wrong with making money? This is my job, and I work very hard at it. I request to be paid for my labor. When you do your job, are you making a buck off your gullible boss? Of course not. He’s paying you for your labor. Do you work for free? Of course not. Why should I work for free? Give me a reason. Any way you can legally make money is pretty much acceptable. We all have to survive. I feel this is a perfectly legitimate way to earn an income.

I do have degrees. Is it evil that I point that out?

Yes, I do not have steady employment in the form of a 9-5 job working for a stranger if that is what you mean. That is due to health reasons. Instead, I am self-employed. You got a problem? Before that, I worked at all sorts of jobs, including a number of professional occupations.

I am not understanding this critique. First I get slammed for trying to earn an income. Then I get slammed for not having a steady job? Why don’t I have to have a steady job? This is more retard thinking. Retard thinking says all adults must have this thing called “a steady job.” Like Hell you do. All adults should try to earn enough money to survive. You don’t need a steady job or a regular job or any of that crap. You can make money any way you want. The idea that everyone has to have a “steady regular job” is retard thinking, and it’s just more Normie crap.

I whine about car repairs and broken air conditioning. One thing I hate about the Net is this bizarre idea that anyone who complains is whining. No ever complains on the Net. All complaining is automatically whining. This is more Normie garbage, and it’s more retard thinking. We all complain. I have known many people who needed to have expensive repairs on their vehicles. Every single one of them complained about it. It’s a normal human thing to do. Only psycho Normie retards think it’s “whining” to complain about unfortunate circumstances.

That is correct. Regular commenters need to pay. This is more Normie crap. Normie idiots think bloggers have no right to charge for their blogs. There are pay websites all over the net. Many blogs and forums and sites run by writers charge money for some or all of their content. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s Normie retard thinking to believe that there is something wrong with Net writers charging for content.

The reason I “accused Libby’s much older uncle of having sex with her” is because that is what it appeared that he was stating on his Facebook. With a photo of him and Libby in the background, he was talking to another man and telling how he had sex with an underage girl. The other man said, “But she’s only 14.” In addition, there is a long-standing rumor in Delphi that this man had sexual affairs with Libby or her sister or both. I have no idea if any of that is true, and in the piece, I stated that there is no evidence that CP has ever had sex with an underage girl. Given his statements and the widespread rumors along those lines, it was legitimate to report this rumor.

“Abbie was pregnant by her 13 year old boyfriend.”

Actually the boyfriend is 16 years old. Blame the women of the Delphi area. This “Abby was pregnant” rumor came right out of town and was a huge rumor for a long time. I will report on all major rumors.

“…so they kidnapped the girls, took them to a barn, tried to give Abby a DIY abortion, but whoops! Things got out of hand so the girls were murdered to shut them up.”

The rumors were that the girl was pregnant and that she was found with a stake driven through her belly. The source of these rumors was women in the town of Delphi itself. With the pregnancy and the stake as our evidence, a good theory would indeed be a botched abortion theory. In any case with facts like that, you would have to consider a theory like that. The theory made perfect sense in light of the rumors.

And I also love the post he made about what he would do with the reward money once he got it.

Yes, I said I wanted to give some of it to the families. Aren’t I a horrible person for saying that? WTF is wrong with that, Normie retards?

[–]itsjesssa 16 points 28 days ago
I was reading the comments on his blog and he banned a dude for (what seemed to me) getting more attention than him. And he practically begs for “donations”. Plus he’s creepy as hell.

The man was banned for violating the Comments Rules. Go read the rules. If you come to my site, you have to follow the rules. If you don’t, you get banned. Why do you Normie retards have such an issue with that?

I don’t beg for donations. They are seldom mentioned. Anyway, requests for donations are very common with many Net journalists. Some of them are quite insistent about it. I don’t blame them. They deserve to be paid for their labor.

“I’m creepy.”

All this creepy bullshit comes from the fact that I discussed the gruesome details of the crime. Some of the details were sexual. So that makes me a creep. What a retarded way of thinking. PS, in Meatspace no one thinks I am a creep. Women and girls have loved me ever since I was ~17 or so, and they still do. It’s always been that way. Creepy guys scare women off. I don’t. I’m the flower, females are the bees.

[–]feelbadthrowawayyy[S] 15 points 27 days ago
I still can’t tell if that pic on his website is him or a serial killer. I’m not being sarcastic. Those glasses are creepy as fuck

What Normie retard crap. This is the usual Normie thing. Guys with glasses somehow look like rapists, murderers and child molesters. But they don’t. Most such folks do not wear glasses, and people like that almost never look nerdy or dorky. Instead, they look like mean, nasty Alpha criminals. And thank you for libeling me by calling me a serial killer.

–]aqua7 11 points 27 days ago
that’s a very old picture
[–]feelbadthrowawayyy[S] 19 points 27 days ago
Here is a recent photo of me having dinner with a gorgeous young woman. We are pretty much the same age at heart, although I am 31 years older than she is. Oh one more thing. And she’s a model! I never thought at age 60 I would be dating 28 year old models! Do you know what’s even better than that? I still get 18 year old girls! I am almost 60 and I still date hot 18 year old girls! So proud of myself![ 283 more words ]
lmfao

[–]heavymetalismetal 15 points 27 days ago
Ew. What does a twenty something year old professional model see in an unemployed old man with no car?

[–]itsjesssa 14 points 27 days ago
Oh dear god no. He reminds me of this kid I went to school with who was very nerdy and awkward and had no friends so he would make up these outlandish claims and that made him have even less friends. Or…ya know…Napoleon Dynamite’s brother, Kip.

[–]JamesonJenn 3 points 13 days ago
Kip’s got more class.

[–]TheAmazingMaryJane 7 points 18 days ago
Like a model is going to eat all that food in a crappy cheap place (what IS on that plate!!) with a dude.

[–]aqua7 6 points 27 days ago
;-)~

[–]theawesomefactory 6 points 25 days ago
Gross.

[–]Hephf 5 points 24 days ago
Geezus.

[–]Supreme000 10 points 27 days ago
LMAO! Thanks for posting this. Now that certainly puts it into perspective, don’t it? Old and delusional. The rantings of a madman.

Bit by bit here.

“What does a twenty something year old professional model see in an unemployed old man with no car?”

I do have a car. We took her car, by the way. She drove eight hours to visit me. There are all sorts of models. Many don’t make a lot of money, like catalog models. I’ve dated model types most of my life, and I still do to this very day. I get hot women with no money and no regular job. I am almost 60, and I still get hot 18-28 year old women. You tell me how I do this. Some young women still think I am cute or handsome, and my Game is out of this world. I know how to get women. I’ve been doing this since I was a teenager. There’s an art to it, and I’ve got it down.

“Like a model is going to eat all that food in a crappy cheap place (what IS on that plate!!) with a dude.”

She didn’t eat all that food. She gave a lot of hers to me to take home to eat. It’s not a cheap crappy place. It’s a Oaxacan restaurant that serves authentic food from Oaxaca, Mexico. The food is excellent. It’s not the fanciest place, but you can get unreal food in some pretty humble joints. Anyone knows that. The food on the plate is called “clayuda.” Yes, she did eat with me, and as a matter of fact, she even took that photo.

It’s only people on the Net who think I can’t get women. No one in Meatspace thinks that, apparently because I don’t look like the type of guy who can’t get laid. More like the opposite.

“Old and delusional. The rantings of a madman.”

It’s all true. Want to call her up and talk to her? I’ll give you her #, and you can see for yourself.

[–]kateykatey 13 points 28 days ago
Yeah, his is probably the most infamous blog related to this case. I think he’s a sad old man typing one handed trying to feel important honestly. There’s some of his theories that I can get on board with (e.g. the barn nearby was the kill site, their throats were slit, the recording is 40 minutes long and mostly screaming) but some of them are so out of left field I don’t know how he can post them with a straight face. The comments are often quite interesting though! Lots of valuable insight and theories from locals.

I’m not sad; I am pretty happy. I’m not old; I am middle aged. I don’t type one-handed. More libel suggesting I type with my dick in my hand.

[–]feelbadthrowawayyy[S] 10 points 27 days ago
My problem is he states theories as facts. For instance he calls the barn “the kill site” without any real fact to prove that is the kill site. I agree its a plausible theory.. but for the time being it’s just that – a theory.

How many times have we gone over the “states theories as facts” lie? Our theory was that the barn was the kill site, and by the way, we had some excellent reasons for feeling that way. As in evidence.

[–]aqua7 6 points 27 days ago
He takes info from other places and forums. He has yet to back up any of his claims. There are a few interesting comments, but not much.

How many times have we dealt with this retard thinking about “stealing other people’s theories?” Did they patent their theories? Did they copyright their facts? This site is a clearinghouse for all of the theories and rumors surrounding this murder case. Of course I roam all over the Net looking for theories and rumors on other sites. That’s where I get a lot of my material. That’s what we do here: collate theories and rumors from websites and sources and throw them out there and evaluate them. This thinking that somehow people have copyrighted or patented the rumors or theories that they report is truly bizarre. It’s very stupid thinking for idiots.

He has yet to back up any of his claims.

This is not true. Some of the things I reported I listed law enforcement and the media as sources. Most of the rest is theory, and there’s nothing to back it up with because no facts have been released. I don’t back up my theories with facts because it’s not possible to do so. Truly retarded thinking! How can one back up one’s theories with facts when no such facts exist? What a stupid way to think.

[–]Supreme000 13 points 27 days ago*
He’s creepy, and he makes some awful accusations based on “supposed” town gossip, and his own crazy opinions. He has no sources. He’s reckless with his opinions and what he is saying about the girls is criminal. He says young girls their age are masturbating daily and will seduce grown men because of their sex drive coming on like a ton of bricks. He makes it sound like young girls who are molested, seduced the man! He’s twisted.

It is in fact town gossip. I have had sources, almost all women, in and around that town since I started writing this stuff. Everything stated as a Delphi theory comes right out of women in that town and surrounding areas. Take it up with those women why they are spreading “awful accusations.”

He has no sources.

I suppose this is more libel. You know this how? You have no way to know this. I have a BA in journalism. Of course I have sources, and I know how to cultivate them. We learned that in J-school. I am an expert at obtaining and cultivating sources.

He’s reckless with his opinions, and what he is saying about the girls is criminal.

How? The girls? Both of them? What did I say about them that I can be arrested for? Is this about Abby being pregnant? Go talk to the women around Delphi because they were the source of that very strong rumor going around for sometime.

He says young girls their age are masturbating daily and will seduce grown men because of their sex drive coming on like a ton of bricks. He makes it sound like young girls who are molested, seduced the man! He’s twisted.

This really needs a separate post. I did a quick and dirty study ages of certain puberty milestones. While I was collecting that data on forums, the girls were asking each other in forum posts how often they masturbated. I didn’t intend to collect that data, but there it was, so I wrote it down. In a study with 50 girls age 13-15, 70% of them reported masturbating daily or near-daily. If you think that’s horrible, go take it up with the girls who are diddling themselves. And if you think I made that up (Why would I do that?), go do your own study and prove me wrong.

The actual impetus for the study was driven by an anti-pedophile notion of mine. Yes, I did that study as part of an anti-pedophile project. I have had to do a lot of research on pedophiles as part of my work. I found that pedos often say that kids 12-under have a very strong sex drive and even try to seduce the pedos. I very much doubted it was true, but I wanted to see if it was or not.

There was almost no data on the sexuality of young children, which is almost criminal right there. What little I found indicated that young children do not have an actual physical sex drive in the same way that mature persons do. Mature persons have an actual physical drive. It’s in their bodies. More specifically, young girls do not lubricate, and young boys cannot ejaculate. Nor do young girls get the “pleasant pain/tingling sensation in the stomach/abdomen” which is a very common symptom of the physical sex drive in mature females.

After figuring out that kids have no sex drive, the next thought I had was, “Well OK, so when does the sex drive come on anyway?” I honestly had no idea, and the data was about zero. I wanted to know the age at which the sexless world of young children because the highly sexualized world of the mature person. So I went off to the forums to learn this. I also collected data on age of breast budding and pubic hair onset because that is interesting to me. Many people find the age of onset of puberty an interesting subject, and many articles are written about it mostly because the age of puberty seems to be dropping. I also felt that the sex drive comes on at the same time as menarche, which makes sense.

And it’s in their minds too. Mature persons fantasize about sex with others a lot. It appears that young children do not think this way. When I was a kid, I think I thought about sex maybe five minutes out of a year.

So there you have it. A quick and dirty study driven by me trying to disprove a pedophile lie.

will seduce grown men because of their sex drive coming on like a ton of bricks. He makes it sound like young girls who are molested, seduced the man!

With 70% of 3-15 year old girls masturbating every day or near every day, I would say the sex drive comes on pretty damn strong nowadays. If you believe otherwise, do a study that shows I am wrong.

Some 13 year old girls seduce men. It’s usually the stepfather or Mom’s boyfriend. It happens. I think they do not do this very often though. But as girls climb upwards in age to 14…15…and up, girls that age definitely seduce men. Hell, I had a 12 year old girl openly proposition me when I was 20. She walked right up to me and asked me to have sex with her. A 13 year old girl openly propositioned me in front of the whole class at age 27 when I was teaching school.

At age 20, I had 14 and 16 year old girls asking me out on dates regularly. A number of my friends have been seduced by teenage girls. Often they openly proposition young men. They are not very sophisticated about it.

Some men prey on these girls, but almost all sex with adult men and teenage girls is very consensual. The girls are very willing and usually enjoy it. Most of the time they refuse to testify against the man. It’s not uncommon for them to run off with the men.

He makes it sound like young girls who are molested, seduced the man!

OK first of all, it is not possible to molest a teenage girl. You can only molest little girls. With teenage girls, it’s statutory rape or illegal intercourse. And yes, they often do seduce the men. That’s been my experience and that of my friends anyway.

[–]feelbadthrowawayyy[S] 21 points 27 days ago
Honestly. I wish LE would look into this guy. Not even just in regards to this case, but in general. He is a fucking creep.

Wow, more libel. Telling police to check me out as a possible sex criminal. Libelous as Hell. PS, the police in Indiana know me well and I have spoken with some of them at length. They were very friendly.

–]feelbadthrowawayyy[S] 17 points 27 days ago
He enjoys discussing young girls in a sexual and sadistic manor wayyyyy too much for my liking. He seems to REALLY get his jollies off telling these weird fantasy “rumors”.

More retard thinking.

If you write about rape-murders of teenage girls, that means you enjoy writing about it!

How the Hell do you know if I like to write about this stuff? Actually I do not like to write about teenage girls in a sadistic sexual way. That’s yucky for me. I’m not into sexual sadism.

By the way, that’s libel saying I enjoy writing about this stuff.

He seems to REALLY get his jollies off telling these weird fantasy “rumors”.

More retard thinking. If you write about sick rape murders, then that means you enjoy the idea of raping and murdering! Incredible. More retard thinking.

  • If you write about it, then you like it.

Completely retarded way to think.

[–]itsjesssa 12 points 27 days ago
AND the masturbation habits of YOUNG girls?!?! Its on his site somewhere. I had to scroll the fuck away from that one.

The masturbation habits was a result of a study I undertook to try to disprove a pedophile lie. It was an anti-pedophile study. The girls were discussing their masturbation habits, so I decided to write that down. If you are so weird and upset about teenage girls having a sex drive, go over to the forums and tell those girls to stop writing about how often they diddle themselves.

“Omg did you see where he was talking about a “study” he did that teenage brothers and sisters almost always have sex with each”

More libel! I said no such thing. I did write an article about brother-sister sex because I always thought it was uncommon. But in reading around, I started noticing that brothers and sisters were having a lot more sex then I ever suspected. I was actually shocked at how much of this was going around. There is even a Reddit group dedicated to this sort of thing, and there are many posters on there, including adult brothers and sisters who are still carrying on. I never said that “brothers and sisters almost always have sex with each other.” I do not believe that is the case. However this sort of thing is more common than I thought.

More retarded thinking.

  • If you write about it, then you do it.

If you write about brother-sister incest, then you like it. Retarded Normie thinking. I have no opinion on brother-sister sex. I have a sister, but honestly I never thought about her like that.

[–]Supreme000 10 points 27 days ago
He has a very twisted view of young girls. Yes, goes into way too much detail regarding young girls, or his delusions of young girls.

My little study again. So go do your own. Prove I am wrong.

“His is the only site that is making outrageous claims that for me, boarder on slinging mud at these young girl’s reputations if they are not true.”

The “Abby was pregnant” rumor came straight from women in Delphi. How does being pregnant ruin her reputation? You can’t ruin her reputation. She’s dead. It’s not possible to defame the dead. Go look it up. Anyway, these things happen. Teenage girls, even young teenage girls, do get pregnant. The fact that these people think that is an insult shows their hatred of sex and puritanism. A teenage girl who gets pregnant is not a bad person. A stupid person? Yes. A bad person? No. This is Puritanical thinking.

–]gretagogo 8 points 27 days ago

Me too!!!! Especially after reading his “study” of the young teens.

Boy that study really pissed you off, didn’t it? Does the truth hurt? So go prove me wrong. Do you own study and show I am wrong.

[–]erictalkssoccer 13 points 24 days ago
He is a fucking asshole. Here is a post of his from a year ago, before he had reached any level of notoriety for his Delphi articles.
https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/02/28/sexual-asssault-for-beginners
Here is a quote (and no, this is not tongue-in-cheek):
“Have fun sexually assaulting women, guys!
But be very careful, and don’t get carried away. A jail cell is not a fun place to be. I have been in those cages a couple of times. You probably never want to go there at all if you can help it.”

This is one of the worst ones of all. People do not understand what sexual assault is. Do you realize that any time you put your hands on a woman without her giving explicit permission, you are engaging in sexual assault? It’s true. But if you are ever to get anywhere with females in this world, you are going to have to start touching them. Grabbing them. Putting your hands on them. Generally speaking, this is done on dates, but it doesn’t have to be.

If she makes a certain move, then you can absolutely grab her, start kissing her, whatever you want. That’s if she starts touching you.

Outside of dating, I have generally done this only when they started touching me first. But on a date, Hell yeah, you better start touching her!

You also need to do it in any sort of pickup situation where you just met a female, and it seems like a pickup. You met her at a party, or at school or wherever. You start hanging around together and pretty soon, you are spending the whole day with her. Every time you turn around, there she is. Pickup situation! Start touching her, dammit!

Or if you are over at her place. You can start touching her or even grabbing her. Do it!

You have to be very careful how you do this, and I do not recommend doing it to female strangers in public unless you are insane. If you do not do this right, especially if you are in public and you do it to a stranger, you can cause a scene, get the cops called on you, have some guy in the vicinity get in your face and order you to leave, and if you don’t leave, he may punch you. Worst of all is if police come and she decides to file charges.

It’s pretty much a chickenshit charge, going after a guy who touched you in public. So he touched you in public? So what! Tell him to stop. Firmly. In an angry voice.

But that doesn’t mean a woman don’t do it. Women file chickenshit charges against men all the time.

If you start touching a woman and she gets angry at some point and starts pushing you away or firmly and angrily says no, you really need to just stop. A lot of guys don’t, but that’s lousy behavior, and to me, it is very rapey. I try not to do that. It has to be consensual. I am not a rapist.

I had a naked woman wandering around my house for two hours the other night. She was my maid. I got her naked, took a shower with her, and got to touch her a bit, but she wasn’t putting out at all. She just wandered around my place for two hours stark naked, refusing to put out. I think that was lousy behavior on her part. Finally I caught her in the dining room with a syringe and a spoon getting ready to shoot meth in my place. I threw her out pretty quickly after that.

I would like to point out that a lot of men would have just raped her. They would say that if you get naked and wander around some guy’s house for two hours, you are saying you want to have sex and also consenting to it. I don’t agree. It’s false advertising, but I’m not a rapist. I refuse to rape a woman even if she’s pretty much asking for it, and some are.

[–]gretagogo 10 points 27 days ago
Someone else posted about him on a different thread in here and I chimed in with many of the same feelings as you. What’s really bizarre is the next day or so after that I was looking at his blog and he addressed what people say about him and he quoted what someone replied to me with. I’ll have to see if I can find it. It just really creeped me out.

That’s right. You think you can go on the Net and talk crap about me all day, and I’m not going to respond to your hater ass? Don’t think so!

[–]indigoworm 10 points 22 days ago
This man seems very disturbed. I was excited when I saw such a comprehensive blog about the Delphi Murders as I have struggled to find a good one. When I saw his, I was hopeful to learning more about the case and possible theories. What I ended up getting was the ranting and ravings of a mad man. When he cites his sources, it is a few words at the end of the paragraph. Really helpful, buddy.

Furthermore, he think Damian Echols is a Satanist. He presents himself as oh so intelligent, but he is a buffoon. The only thing he knows is the various types of pedophiles and that is probably because it’s his #1 hobby. It really pains me that he is exploiting this horrible murder to get donations and it continuously spreading misinformation. So sad….

I started stating my sources after each allegation because scum like you were freaking out and screaming that I had no named sources. First place, I do not have to name my sources. I have a BA in Journalism, and naming your sources is not required and in fact is a very bad idea. You know a person is a retard if they start screaming, “Name your sources!” or “Lindsay refuses to name his sources!” These people never took a journalism course. I got this with the retarded Bigfoot scum and now I get it with the retarded Delphi scum.

I fail to see how my saying Damien Echols is a Satanist makes me insane or not credible. It’s an open question, and many people do say he is a Satanist or at least he was one, and judging by his recent actions, he still is. I studied the case for a long time, and my conclusion is that Damien Echols is a Satanist. It’s a perfectly reasonable conclusion based on the evidence. Only a scum would say one lacks credibility for making such a conclusion.

[–]FrankieHellis 7 points 25 days ago
When I first came across his blog, I was excited and I subscribed. Within a day or two, I became unexcited and unsubscribed. That dude has some issues.

In fact, I do not have much in the way of issues. I am actually under the care of mental health professionals, and there is not much wrong with me. No affective disorder. No personality disorder. No psychotic disorder. I do have an anxiety disorder for which I take medication and hence the psychiatrist. I fail to see how having an anxiety disorder makes one insane or have issues. It’s run of the mill stuff.

[–]borderhorizon 6 points 25 days ago
“Robert Lindsay” is a pathological megalomaniac. His presumptions regarding motive and method are the precipitate of years of agonizing self-analysis. An analysis into the abyss of his own desperately wicked soul. He’s a social arsonist who is obsessed with starting a fire…and then coming to the rescue to solve it. In addition to posting a sophomoric criminal analysis, it would follow that he’s been unsuccessful in various ventures in life.

None of this is true. My best therapist insists that I do not have Narcissistic Personality Disorder and I do not suffer from pathological narcissism, in short, I am not a narcissist. He says I have “high self-esteem,” and if you want to equate self-esteem with narcissism as many clinicians do, then that counts as high narcissism, but high narcissism (high self-esteem) is not considered a disorder. In fact, it is usually considered a sign of mental health.

I have worked a variety of jobs all through my life, good ones and bad ones, and I do not believe I have failed at any of them.

Well on a construction crew, at a factory and at a warehouse driving a forklift, I could not seem to get the hang of it and was fired for doing a poor job, but I gave them all 100% of my effort. I am not worried about failing  at a variety of poorly-paid working class jobs. I have also had a number of relatively prestigious jobs, and I have not failed at any of them. In fact, I have a couple of jobs now working for myself, and I am doing quite well at both of them.

I have been under the care of mental health professionals (clinical psychologists and psychiatrists mostly) for much of the past 25 years. This is because I get regular treatment for an anxiety disorder. I’m sure that if I was seriously disturbed in some evil and dangerous way they would have caught it and pointed it out by now. In terms of dangerousness, mostly they say that I am harmless, but I will fight very hard to defend myself, and I mouth off to people who insult me or attack me.

I do not think our criminal analysis is sophomoric. I know for a fact that LE officers in at least two states read here. They requested passwords to the private forum and were given them. If this site had nothing but junk, I do not see why they would read here.

[–]otistoole 7 points 15 days ago
I’ve been familiar with this guy for years. He has to add his 2 cents to everything, from Sasquatchery to sociology. He is quite arrogant and unpleasant. He revels in being more intelligent than most everyone else. I really don’t think he is half as smart as he likes to believe he is.

In my opinion, he really just needs a good, solid ass-kicking. Seems like no one in his life cared enough yet to correct him or counter his megalomaniacal fantasies, and sometimes there’s nothing left to do for a person like this except to bust him in his damn mouth.

A guy named Otis Toole insulted me! I’m so hurt!

Yes, I have opinions on many different things. What’s wrong with that? That means I am a polymath and a Renaissance Man. You got a problem?

I do not revel in being more intelligent than everyone else or most everyone else, even though I am. If you take 1,000 Americans and put them in a room, I am smarter than everyone in the room. On the contrary, it is rather lonely and alienating, and it upsets me when my brain tries to tell me that half the people I meet are Goddamned morons. I feel bad about thinking that way, and often wish I could shed 30 IQ points.

Not as smart as I think I am? I am in the .1% of intelligence in the US, as documented by repeated testing. That good enough for you?

I do not know what to say about this megalomania crap. Wouldn’t someone like that be automatically Narcissistic Personality Disorder? Is it possible to be a healthy megalomaniac? If you meet me, you might be surprised. It’s often said that I am shy and self-effacing in Meatspace.

[–]dbbwlkr 4 points 22 days ago
I said from the beginning how his picture looks like the BG. It looks like he shaded half his face to portray this…

I admit it. I am the Bridge Man. I killed those girls. I was in California at the time of course, but I killed them anyway. I aimed my black laser beam eyeballs at them, and that’s how I did it! I can kill from 2,000 miles away! I have mini cruise missiles in my eyeballs! All you haters better watch it!

[–]feelbadthrowawayyy[S] 11 points 27 days ago
He does really put himself out there though sharing his ideas which is pretty brave. I have to disagree that it’s brave to state outlandish theories from behind a computer screen. Now if he had the balls to say these things to the faces of Abby and Libby’s families, that might be “brave” (or just dickish, but you get my point)

In fact, I was emailing a member of Abby’s extended family for a while, and he donated generously to the site. He also praised my work. So there.

[–]Hunt4lindsay 2 points 7 days ago
I represent a group who can visit Mr. Lindsay. We need someone to set him out on where he can regularly be located.

This can be none other than Brad Holder and his nutcase son Jason, Abby’s former boyfriend. Just what I need. An antisocial devil-worshiping freak and his snotty little punk ass son are coming after me. As if I did not have enough problems.

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How Those Hip, Groovy, Cool IT Capitalists Are Actually Some of the Worst Capitalists Ever

There was this idea that the Internet capitalists were somehow going to be different from the rest of the capitalists. The Internet guys were cool, hip, groovy and right on.

The truth is that the IT capitalists have actually turned out to be some of the worst capitalists of them all!

The brick and mortar model is far better for consumers than horrific ecommerce, where consumer abuse is the name of the game, and customer service is a nonexistent concept.

Ever noticed that if you ever have a problem with a product, you can always take it back to the brick and mortar store and get the matter cleared up to your satisfaction? That’s customer service at the brick and mortar level. It’s almost always superb because in brick and mortar, the customer is always right.

Because ecommerce has severed the face to face ties that humanize and create the great customer service model at the brick mortar level, the motto in ecommerce is the customer is always a sucker to be milked, ripped off, and hung out to dry. Ever tried to get your money back on software? I have. Suppose your software simply does not work. It’s happened to me. Too bad there are no refunds! I mean maybe there are refunds, but good luck getting one because all software companies have destroyed the notion of customer service. There simply is no customer service desk at most IT corporations. There’s no such thing.

A Rogue’s Gallery of IT CEO’s

Look at the examples.

Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon, and a truly horrible human being. Amazon’s corporate culture is one of the worst in the US and for the life of me, I do not know why anyone would work at this modern day IT salt mine there unless they were a masochist. Bezos orders all higher level employees to be at each other throats all the time, and everyone is trying to backstab and sabotage everyone else so they can steal that person’s job.

Quite a few people said that working for Amazon ruined their mental and physical health. The warehouse workers are horrifically abused, worked like whipped pack animals and forced to work in sweltering heat until they collapse. They are poorly paid and are frankly some of the worst-treated workers in America today. Psychopath Bezos delights in this dog eat dog law of the jungle atmosphere, as he feels that this is what has driven his company’s success. That’s dubious to me. At any rate, what of the human tool?

Bill Gates’ behavior when running his corporation was about as sociopathic as any career criminal.

(((Steve Ballmer))), his second in command, is an obvious psychopath and a terrifying man.

(((Ralph Ellison))), CEO of Oracle is an extreme narcissist and all-around lousy person. He’s basically a Libertarian like so many capitalists.

(((Mark Zuckerberg))) of Facebook out and out ripped off the idea for Facebook from a fellow college student he developed it with while never giving his partner a nickel.

If you study enough of these guys, you will notice how many of them stole their way to the top.

Microsoft stole just about every piece of software they ever developed. They violated endless patents. They cheated and backstabbed every single company that partnered with them. They tore up and violated every legal contract they ever signed. Bill Gates was the Ted Bundy of the IT corporate world.

Scott MacNealy, head of Sun Enterprises, was hero of the new geek Net culture. MacNealy slyly made use of monopoly law to go after Microsoft, and that was a very good thing. On the other hand, MacNealy was a Libertarian like so many capitalists, and it was clear to anyone that MacNealy was only anti-monopoly because a monopoly was ruining his business and would have loved nothing more than for Sun, victim of  monopoly, to become a monopoly itself and victimize its own rivals.

Even Steve Jobs was said to be an awful boss, a tyrant who terrorized all of his employees. He was an A-1 asshole of the first degree.

The founder of the Adultfriender dating site Andrew Conru ran an extremely amoral business, was an extreme psychopath and was hated by everyone who worked for him. His site, like most dating sites, is run on an organized crime model. For one thing, overbilling is standard practice and not an error. The FTC has issued at indictment against the company for systematic billing fraud. The overwhelming majority of dating sites and almost almost 100% of the sexually explicit ones are nothing but criminal enterprises run by organized crime masquerading as legitimate businesses. The vast majority of the CEO’s of dating sites belong in prison for fraud. The whole industry is incredibly enough run on an actual Fraud Model.

Former founder and CEO of Uber (((Travis Kalanick))) is a narcissistic psychopath and a sexist to boot. His corporate bro culture is horrible to their female employees, and the corporate environment is toxic and terrifying. Uber drivers are terribly abused, dishonestly called independent contractors, receive no benefits whatsoever, and are often paid below the minimum wage.

You could always boycott Uber and try Lyft, but Lyft is almost as bad as Uber.

Let’s hear it for the new sharing economy! Hip, hip, hooray!

Peter Thiel, the founder of PayPal, is a monster of a man with truly horrifying political views. He believes society should be ruled by an aristocratic elite, no doubt especially Internet billionaires, has a near-monarchical view of the state and displays a profound hatred for democracy, which he wants to phase out as it gets in the way of aristocratic royalist billionaire rule.

Elon Musk is no good. All you decent humans need to quit idolizing this capitalist POS right now. He’s the latest groovy businessman that everyone loves and idolizes.

He is very smart, this is true. He has some good ideas, this is true.

But have you seen how he runs his factories? Workers at his factories have long complained of severe abuse by management. The rot starts at the top with Musk and extends all the way down. They are poorly paid, seriously abused, and not allowed to from unions. Musk has arrogantly refused to even look at these problems and insists that they do not exist. He seems to have contempt for his own workers like so many capitalists. This guy is not the latest Tech Age groovy billionaire idol of humanity. He’s just another piece of crap capitalist like all the rest of them.

 

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