Category Archives: Flynn Effect

Many Bright to Very High IQ People Cannot Do Even Simple Things Well

I Wonder: Robert,

I must be in the lower IQ range. Tried to send money through Pay/Pal. Kept saying info was missing even though I supplied full Visa information. Try again, later. I enjoy your blog, your writing style, sly wit, and the various subjects covered.

I Wonder

Hi you may not be low OK at all. A lot of very smart people cannot navigate such things well. My Mom has a 150 IQ and for a long time, she was having my brother or I do a lot of online and computer stuff for her because she could never figure out how to do it. My Dad had a 129 IQ and he never bothered with computers apparently because he had no idea how to operate one. To be honest, he never learned how to operate a TV remote properly either! But even towards the end of his life, he was one smart guy!

In their case, their generation simply never learned to get comfortable with gadgetry. The new generations coming up now are actually more intelligent in terms of IQ tests than the generations before them, especially the WW2 generation. This is known as the Flynn Effect which states that indeed people have been getting smarter with each generation for a long time now.

Intelligence is not all genetic. If you grow up in a culture surrounded by gadgets, you will become more intelligent in visuospatial skills than someone who did not  grow up around such things. Also many of the WW2 generation never got comfortable with gadgets, so they feel helplessness, frustration and anxiety when they try to use them.

Believe it or not, “If you fail, try again. If you fail again, try, try again,” is pretty much a fallacy. Everyone is supposed to have this sort of grit and stick-to-itiveness, but few do. The reasoning is simple. Humans have egos. Egos are designed to protect ourselves from unpleasant emotions and cognitions such as thinking you are a failure.

If you take the idea, “People are trying to convince themselves that they are not failures,” and then plug it into your  world and then look at the people your world with this concept in mind, so many things will become clear. This is because a lot of human defensive behavior is wrapped up trying to convince ourselves that we are not failures. Those successful at lying to themselves this way can function pretty well. Those who are more honest with themselves tend to get depressed. Indeed, studies show that depressed people are more realistic than happy people. Lying to yourself is good for you!

The WW2 people’s brains work about as well as ours do. They are about as fast and store and retrieve information just as well. So we are not smarter in terms of overall intelligence. But in specialized subsections of intelligence, indeed, there have been some marked rises in the past 100 years.

Bottom line is that just because you cannot do some fairly simple thing, it does not mean you are dumb. You could well have an average all the way up to very high IQ. Doing relatively simple things especially technologies, is not a very reliable indicator of intelligence.

10 Comments

Filed under Flynn Effect, Intelligence, Psychology

Flynn Effect in North Africans/Turks Migrated To West Europe By Robert Lindsay

This is from one of my papers on Academia. It is getting linked around all over the place right now, so I thought you folks might want to take a look at it if you have not done so already. Pretty interesting paper documents an 8-13.5 rise in the 2nd generation of immigrants coming from the less developed world to the West, in this case to Europe. The usual hereditarian rejoinders to this argument are dealt with.

Flynn Effect in North Africans/Turks Migrated To West Europe

By Robert Lindsay

From an article by Philippe Rushton, hereditarian, a revelation about yet another instance of skyrocketing IQ increases in the second generation born in the West after migrating from the less developed areas.

Previously, we noted that the children Jamaican immigrants to the UK (IQ = 71) have IQ’s of 85-86, typically within a single generation. That is a gain of 14.5 IQ points merely by being raised in the West. Hereditarians have offered many rationales for this. The usual one is that the Jamaican immigrants were already very bright anyway (as we will see with Moroccans and Turks in Netherlands, this is not true).

Another is that Jamaicans in the UK are very heavily bred in with Whites to the point where they may be only 1/2 White. This is not true – UK Jamaicans are only 12% White (Jamaicans in Jamaica are 9% White).

The children of Indian and Pakistani immigrants to the UK (IQ = 81.5) have IQ’s ranging from 92 (Rushton) to 96 (a figure I prefer). Call it 94. This is a gain of 12.5 IQ points merely by being raised in the West. The counter-argument here once again is that this group is self-selected.

Taken together, the children of Jamaican and East Indian immigrants see rises of 13.5 IQ points merely by being raised in the West. It is true that beyond the initial jump, we are not seeing more rises.

However, a strong initial jump is perfectly consonant with being raised in an area with a higher standard of living. Higher standards of living seem to be somehow translating into long-term rises in IQ. The mechanisms can be debated.

Education, a massively stimulating environment (computers, cell phones, TV, movies), proper nutrition, good medical care, and myriad other things have been suggested, but the mechanisms for the rises are still somewhat mysterious.

Now, via Rushton, we have yet more evidence of a Flynn Effect in immigrants to the West. First generation Moroccans and Turks in Netherlands had IQ’s of 81. This is low. The Moroccan norm IQ is 84, and the Turkish norm IQ is 90. So, contrary to the argument that only the very brightest immigrants are going to the West, it seems instead that the less bright immigrants are arriving instead.

The second generation has IQ’s of 89. 89 is around the Turkish average, but it is 5 points above the Moroccan average of 84. Both the Turkish and the Moroccan figures also shows a Flynn gain of 8 points between generations. Rushton tries to explain this away somehow, but he doesn’t do a good job of it.

The evidence for massive IQ gains in second-generation immigrants to the West is now becoming overwhelming, and it is going to be harder and harder for hereditarians to explain away.

Comparison of 1st and 2nd generation immigrants to the West and the resulting Flynn Effect gains, apparently solely by being born and raised in the West. The common factor behind rising IQ’s in the West may be related to rising standards of living.

                   1st   2nd   Gain

UK Jamaicans       71    85.5  14.5
UK East Indians    81.5  94    12.5
ND Moroccans/Turks 81    88     7

Average            78    89    11.5

8 Comments

Filed under Blacks, Britain, East Indians, Europe, Europeans, Flynn Effect, Immigration, Intelligence, Jamaicans, Moroccans, Netherlands, North Africans, Pakistanis, Psychology, Race/Ethnicity, Regional, South Asians, Turks

NotPoliticallyCorrect’s Rejoinder to My Piece on HBD and Racism

This was posted over at NotPolitcallyCorrect’s site. I hope he doesn’t mind my reprinting it here with a link to the original. He doesn’t copyright his stuff, and I see no Creative Commons license. His site’s not monetized anyway. I’ll take it down if he requests it. I also posted my own rejoinder to his response, which I will post after this.

Is HBD an Ideology of Hatred and Racism?: A Reply to Robert Lindsay

A nice special post today, Robert Lindsay’s accusation of HBD being ‘racist’ is on the table today. As always, I want to hear what you want me to write on so send me an email, address is in the sidebar.

Robert Lindsay asks “Is HBD an Ideology of Hatred and Racism?” It, of course, isn’t. Today I’ll rebut his piece saying that it is “hatred and ‘racism’ (whatever that means)”. He says that HBDers who resist ‘racism’ (which I will address later) are “swimming against the tide” and “probably have to exercise a bit of self-control to not go over to the dark side.” What is he even talking about? What “dark side” is there? Being ‘racist’?

This is because HBD facts tend to lend pretty regularly to quite a bit of racism and the hatred that goes along with it. And if you notice, the more hardcore the HBD’er is, the more racist they tend to sound.

Of course these facts lead to ‘racism’, however, these ‘racists’ will be ‘racist’ with or without the facts of HBD. I will touch more on that later. In the meantime, he says “the more hardcore the HBD’er is, the more racist they tend to sound.” Robert, are you just making broad generalizations? Do you have anything to back your claim on this statement? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

HBD in and of itself is not racist of course, not in any sane sense of the word.

I agree with him saying that the Left has destroyed any “meaning” that the word “racist” has. However, even without the overstating of the word “racist”, HBD itself would not be a racist ideology. It is, however, racist to the average person who doesn’t know the science involved in racial differences. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary has two definitions for ‘racism’. It defines ‘racism’ as:

  1. a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

  2. Racial prejudice or discrimination

Well, “superiority” is meaningless. Race is not a primary determinant of human traits as there is a lot of crossover. However, there are racial/ethnic differences in phenotype which of course are caused by differences in genotype. That is not up for discussion, but the term ‘inherent superiority’ is.

Of course to the average person, HBD is seen as ‘racist’. But is researching/reading about human differences and being interested in their causes and what they mean today really ‘racist’ or a want to learn more about human evolution and how and why we got here?

But the ones who are very deep into it and talk about it all the time, well, it’s quite clear that they have a pretty low opinion of NAM’s. Even worse, a lot of them are just out and out racists. Some are even vicious racists. And almost all of them have the worst rightwing politics, usually Libertarian, that you could imagine.

‘Racists.’ There’s that word again. I did say at the beginning of the year that we should petition to have ‘racist’ changed to ‘ethnocentrist’, as what is being described when one cries ‘racist’ is actually ethnocentrism in action. This is mediated by the brain hormone oxytocin. I would wager that ‘racists’ and other, closely related people (ie Arab Muslims with high consang rates) would have higher levels of this brain hormone. This would be the reason why these groups stick to those who are phenotypically to themselves; it’s hormonally driven, like most, if not all things in life. Stop using the word ‘racist’ and use ‘ethnocentrist’ as it makes much more sense.

More importantly, HBD is a profoundly pessimistic doctrine. Just to give you an idea, they hate the idea that the environment or even free will has any role to play human affairs. Look at how furious they get about the Flynn Effect. Look at all the bending over, twisting themselves into weird yoga positions, hand waving, magic wand waving, “Don’t look over there”, and “just-so” explanations they have come up for to deny what is an obvious rise in human intelligence. The idea that the environment could actually increase intelligence fills them with rage because they are all wrapped up in this “intelligence is purely genetic” argument. (Bold is my emphasis)

Yes HBD is pessimistic, as is life, Robert. Who hates the idea that environment has any role in intelligence? Any sensible individual would acknowledge that environment does play a role, but would also know that intelligence is highly heritable. I’m pretty sure he’s just talking about the average ‘racist’, as I’ve never seen an HBD blogger every state that intelligence is fully genetic. Sure there are some intelligence researchers (a minority) who believe that intelligence is fully genetic but just like extreme environmentalism in regards to causes for IQ, extreme hereditarianism is also a stupid view to hold.

Genes and environment interact to give the phenotype. We can take an African from, say, South Africa and place him in America. Due to better nutrition and better schooling among other things (like lessened parasitic load and disease), in my opinion African IQ would be about 10 points higher, give or take a few points. We know that environment and genetics (GxE) affects all phenotypic traits, but those like Robert like to play up Flynn gains as if they are on actual g – they aren’t. Flynn Effects are not genetic and are UNRELATED to race differences (Rushton, 2000).

On another note, I seem to have been wrong with my statement that Flynn gains were 3 points per decade in every country. I would wager that since intelligence is affected by nutrition that those countries with lower Flynn gains that showed the least improvement with nutrition would show the lowest IQ gains. I will write on this in the future.

Of course, that argument is a death knell for Blacks and other NAM’s. These people have enough problems as it is, but HBD just drives a stake through their heart to make sure the Black man (or other NAM’s) never rises again. It pretty much condemns them forever as genetic inferiors in sense.

They have enough problems as it is because of their biology which HBD speaks about, the supposed ‘racist ideology’. It pretty much does ‘condemn them’ as ‘genetic ‘inferiors” (whatever that means), but that’s Nature! Nature is not a kind Mistress. Nature is harsh, nature doesn’t care about feelings.

Intelligence isn’t either fully genetic nor fully environmental, but shifted considerably over to the hereditarian position.

It says “niggers ain’t got no brains,” and while that may be true in a very ugly and racist sense that most us don’t want to think about, instead, the HBD’er is overjoyed at this fact. “Black people are stupid!” he hollers to the sky with joy. “And they will stay that way forever!” he yells gleefully. “Environment can’t help them. They are condemned!” At this point, he is nearly gleeful and ready to party.

I laughed out loud at this. Environment can help, to a point (if they come from Africa or some other down-and-out place), but mainly, as seen in the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study, blacks didn’t end up doing better than whites when environments were equalized.

And most of them are racist lousy people, but they are quite smug about their racism because now their racism is given the imprimatur of science. “If science says it’s true, I can’t be racist,” he chortles.

Idiotic. Everyone is ‘ethnocentric’ to a degree, whether consciously or subconsciously. Robert, you are an HBDer yourself whether you admit it or not since you recognize racial differences, so I guess you are ‘racist’.

After all, science isn’t racist. I agree, but distortion of science for racist means sure is, and delighting in the disturbing “racist truths” of science is doubly so.

Sure, gay men are at very high risk of HIV, and up to 20% are infected. That’s a fact of science. So does that make you want to get up and party for 30 days and 30 nights? I hope not, and if so, you are one ugly homophobe.

Science is not racist. But, as Leftists love saying ‘Data isn’t racist, interpretation of it is!!!’ is idiotic. Of course a lot of people distort racial science, but that doesn’t mean that it’s ‘wrong’. Like with making myths on how Europeans were always in Europe 40 kya (not true) or how Europeans were always white (not true) he is right here. Most people do not keep up to date on the newest data that comes out so they still hold to these ‘mythologies’ and ‘identity politics’ and push out outdated and straight untrue statements. But all that means is that they are extremely misinformed.

What would I do with that stat of gay men and HIV? Be cautious around gays, just like I’d be cautious around blacks knowing how much crime and murder they commit as a group. This is a sane position to hold. One group is overrepresented in a certain (negative) stat? Keep an eye out while around those of that demographic. That makes sense. Self-preservation always wins out. Robert is of course using the Leftist playbook on ‘racist’ namecalling. Most everything in this article I’ve seen around countless times being spewed to any HBDer who went against conventional wisdom. The term ‘racist’ is just used as a silencing tactic. Robert, you are a Leftist HBDer. You do know that a lot people you align yourself with politically consider you ‘racist’ right?

This notion that anyone who believes HBD is ‘racist’ or any other buzzword is used to shut down any and all discussions on matters. Something that, it seems, flew over his head. When one cannot rebut something an HBDer puts out, they get called ‘racist’. However, the term is pretty much close to meaningless nowadays as it’s been so overused by the Left. All of the HBD bloggers I follow are not racist (hell, one who is most certainly not racist is PumpkinPerson who has a very unhealthy obsession with Oprah. =^) You know it’s true, PP). Others like Razib Khan, JayMan, hbd chick, and Cochran and Harpending, just to name a few, have gotten numerous accusations of being racist. Hell, Razib Khan was hired and fired the same day by the NYT after going on board as a science writer when someone discovered his ‘racist’ writings.

Whether or not people believe HBD doesn’t change how true it is. Racial and ethnic differences still persist, so by just disregarding it we completely go over causes of it other than ‘systemic racism’!!! HBD is true and a valid, non-racist (whatever that means) ideology. We segregate with people like us. Hell, even you, Robert, prefer whites over others (oh no, racist!!!!). Once we start understanding how and why people are ethnocentric (with oxytocin playing the main role), then we can have a more peaceful society as we understand causes for actions, both negative and positive, and better curb violence.

HBD itself is not a hateful ideology, it’s just one based on facts and solid reasoning. Just because people use HBD to justify their own preconceived notions or to use ‘hate facts’ doesn’t mean that it’s a racist ideology. Nice job using the word ‘racist’ as invented by Trotsky. But knowing your political leanings, Robert, that’s A-OK, right?

It’s worth noting that Robert banned me for my politics. He claims his comments are ‘free speech’, yet when I said the truth about socialism and the amount of deaths it caused (way more than National Socialism), I got an immediate ban. Truth hurts, huh?

7 Comments

Filed under Anti-Racism, Civil Rights, Flynn Effect, Genetics, Intelligence, Left, Psychology, Race Realism, Race Relations, Race/Ethnicity, Racism, Science, Social Problems, Sociology

Eight Point Flynn Rise in Real IQ Among Filipinos Born in the West

We have absolutely no data whatsoever on SEA’s raised in the West, except for Filipinos, who get an 8 point IQ rise from being raised in the West. Filipinos have 86 IQ’s in the Philippines, which unfortunately is not hard to believe if you have talked to a lot of Filipinas. They are some of the sweetest women out there, but they don’t strike you as real bright. But they are so sweet that you almost don’t care that there’s not a heck of a lot upstairs.

However, Filipinos raised in the West have 94 IQ’s, an eight point Flynn rise in real IQ. Hereditardians try to wave this away by appealing to selective immigration, but they have no data to back up their case. They do this with all Flynn rises in the children of 3rd world immigrants raised in the West for whom Flynn rises are virtually the norm. It’s hard to believe that all of these children of immigrants raised in the West Flynn rises are due to selective immigration. That almost strains credulity. Immigrants to everywhere in the West are always that selective? Really? Anyway, the Hereditardians can’t prove that either, but that doesn’t keep them from using it as a hand wave.

I do not think Filipino immigration is as selective as everyone thinks. I taught school in a heavily Filipino area and most of the parents of the kids were working at some pretty menial jobs. I also ate out in Filipino restaurants a lot, and I spent a fair amount of time in Little Manila just north of downtown LA (yes there is a Filipino neighborhood in LA that most have not heard of). If you meet a lot of ordinary, day to day Filipino-American immigrants, you would not think that the best and the brightest only had been imported. Most of them seem like regular everyday Flips.

29 Comments

Filed under Asia, Asians, Filipinos, Flynn Effect, Immigration, Intelligence, Philippines, Psychology, Race/Ethnicity, Regional, SE Asia, SE Asians, USA

IQ’s of Southeast Asians Raised in the West

Drain Bamage writes:

Yes NNAMs. SEA’s are not as smart as Europeans when raised in the first world. You may see the visible top 20% being successful mirroring the successful 20% in their native countries

Although we have data on Filipinos, we have no data whatsoever on Laotians, Thais, Khmer, Viets or Indonesians in the US. There’s nothing there. However, I have met a number of Lao and Khmer in the US while teaching school and tutoring adults and my basic opinion was that they were not stupid. They seemed to be about on the level of the Viets and Thais. And these were very ordinary uneducated Lao and Khmer refugees who had little education and worked only menial jobs.

Also although there is a lot of overlap, in general the Lao, Khmer, Thai and Viets each had a certain “look” about them, and after a while I got so I could tell them apart pretty well. It’s bull that “they all look the same.”

I had one tutoree who was Mien, and he looked completely different from all the others. He also looked very Chinese. This is a group that like the Hmong originates in Southern China, but many have moved into Laos in the last 300 years. I also thought he might have been smarter than the average of the rest.

3 Comments

Filed under Asians, Filipinos, Flynn Effect, Hmong, Immigration, Indonesians, Intelligence, Khmer, Lao, Psychology, Race/Ethnicity, SE Asians, Thai, Vietnamese

Possible Massive Increase in Real IQ in Thailand

There is some tantalizing new information of a 10 point rise in Thai IQ’s from 90-99*, which would put them equal to Viets, which probably makes sense since racially they are probably not a lot different and they line up right next to each other on gene charts. And both of line right up next to South Chinese on those same charts. One wonders about a nine point real IQ rise, but according to Steve Sailer (despite his execrable politics, the man has his uses) the Thai government started taking IQ very seriously a while back, talking about it a lot, writing about it, issuing directives and whatnot.

I believe they found that the whole place was iodine deficient, so they dosed the whole country with iodine somehow (adding it to the salt?. I believe Sailer discussed something about the iodine issue, but when he was writing, they had only found the whole place to be an iodine sinkhole and they were talking about dosing the country, but I do not think they had gotten around to it yet.

Wa-la, next we see a 10 point IQ rise. This is actually what we could expect from iodine supplementation alone.

I have met both Thais and Viets. Thais struck me as much smarter than one might expect. Quite a few of them, both male and female, were out and out “dorky nerds with glasses” types, which is what you might expect from a hidden high IQ population.

I dated a Thai woman for a while who had a Masters Degree and worked as an accountant. She was also a millionaire. Oh yes she was also stone cold knockout gorgeous. She was insanely in love with me, but that’s another story.

I went to a Thai restaurant recently, and I was talking to the owner a bit about race and the history of Thailand, and I was stunned at how educated he was. I met another Thai once who had fought in the Vietnam War with the Thai army and he seemed way smarter than he ought to be also. My basic takeaway from dealing with these people is that they are not stupid.

*If someone can find that study for me, I would appreciate it. It came out a few years back and people were shocked about the IQ rise. Me? Not so much. Color me “I told you so.”

19 Comments

Filed under Asia, Asians, Flynn Effect, Health, Intelligence, Nutrition, Psychology, Race/Ethnicity, Regional, SE Asia, SE Asians, Thai, Thailand, Vietnamese

Is HBD an Ideology of Hatred and Racism?

Hatred? Well, effectively it is, that is the thing.

Is it an ideology of racism? Almost always it is. Non-racist or even antiracist HBD’ers are hard to find. We have a few on this site, but there are not many anywhere else. This is because HBD facts tend to lend pretty regularly to quite a bit of racism and the hatred that goes along with it. And if you notice, the more hardcore the HBD’er is, the more racist they tend to sound. HBD does not inevitably lead to racism, but it tends to do so in a pretty regular way. Those HBD’ers who resist racism are sort of swimming against the tide, and they probably have to exercise quite a bit of energy and self-control to not go over to the dark side.

HBD in and of itself is not racist of course, not in any sane sense of the word.

Almost all HBD is a hate ideology in one way or another. Let’s face facts here for a minute. I have been studying this group of people for a very long time on here. The nonracist or even more uncommon antiracist HBD’ers on the Net can be counted easily, as their numbers are very low. And in a way, I hate to say it, but all HBD, at least the hard kind, is sort of racist ideology. I do not mean the people who merely believe in it but don’t really like to talk about, as it’s ugly. These are the “What the Hell you want to talk about that for?” types. Mere belief in HBD does not make you bad. Some of those are decent people.

But the ones who are very deep into it and talk about it all the time, well, it’s quite clear that they have a pretty low opinion of NAM’s. Even worse, a lot of them are just out and out racists. Some are even vicious racists. And almost all of them have the worst rightwing politics, usually Libertarian, that you could imagine.

More importantly, HBD is a profoundly pessimistic doctrine. Just to give you an idea, they hate the idea that the environment or even free will has any role to play human affairs. Look at how furious they get about the Flynn Effect. Look at all the bending over, twisting themselves into weird yoga positions, hand waving, magic wand waving, “Don’t look over there”, and  “just-so” explanations they have come up for to deny what is an obvious rise in human intelligence. The idea that the environment could actually increase intelligence fills them with rage because they are all wrapped up in this “intelligence is purely genetic” argument.

Of course, that argument is a death knell for Blacks and other NAM’s. These people have enough problems as it is, but HBD just drives a stake through their heart to make sure the Black man (or other NAM’s) never rises again. It pretty much condemns them forever as genetic inferiors in sense.

It says “niggers ain’t got no brains,” and while that may be true in a very ugly and racist sense that most us don’t want to think about, instead, the HBD’er is overjoyed at this fact. “Black people are stupid!” he hollers to the sky with joy. “And they will stay that way forever!” he yells gleefully. “Environment can’t help them. They are condemned!” At this point, he is nearly gleeful and ready to party.

These profoundly depressing facts actually fill the HBD’ers black heart with the greatest of joy. Now what sort of human rejoices at bad news? An asshole, a lousy person. And what human rejoices at the inferiority of another man or God forbid race? A lousy person, who is also a very nasty racist to boot. And that’s what hard HBD’ers are. They’re lousy people.

And most of them are racist lousy people, but they are quite smug about their racism because now their racism is given the imprimatur of science. “If science says it’s true, I can’t be racist,” he chortles.

After all, science isn’t racist. I agree, but distortion of science for racist means sure is, and delighting in the disturbing “racist truths” of science is doubly so.

Sure, gay men are at very high risk of HIV, and up to 20% are infected. That’s a fact of science. So does that make you want to get up and party for 30 days and 30 nights? I hope not, and if so, you are one ugly homophobe.

So yes, there are ugly truths, even ugly truths stamped so by science, but these are of course more tragedies to be mourned than reasons to whoop with joy.

Decent people don’t rejoice over tragic facts, racist or otherwise.

196 Comments

Filed under Assholes, Conservatism, Flynn Effect, Intelligence, Libertarianism, Political Science, Psychology, Race Realism, Race/Ethnicity, Racism, Science

The American Blacks Were Bred for Brawn, Not Brains Argument

There is a well known IQ gap between Blacks and Whites in the US. One attempt of well meaning liberals to explain this gap is to say that Blacks were bred for brawn and not brains. A recent commenter posted just that argument. I did not disagree with him on that as I did not want to start a fight and also I was feeling lazy anyway, but one of my commenters already did.

If American Blacks were bred for stupidity, why are their average IQ’s higher than those of African Blacks?

Their ancestors from Africa went through two evolutionary selection events just coming to America. The first was in being selected as trade goods rather than being kept as slaves there. I suspect that the smarter of the slaves the African kings had available were selected for shipment since they would be more troublesome.

The second was surviving the trip. This has left them with a greater tendency to heart disease as a trade-off for living through confinement in a hot hold.

Yes, that argument of his is just wrong, but I hear it all the time.

Also Blacks underwent a big 7.5 point absolute rise in IQ in the past century or so. Charles Murray even admits this and in fact wrote a journal about it. And from the late 1800’s to now, Blacks underwent severe selection pressure for more progressive phenotypes versus more archaic ones such that Blacks now look more like we do than they look like their pre-Revolutionary ancestors!

The reasons for selection are unknown, but perhaps now Blacks had more choice about who to marry. Blacks now had money, and with money comes selection pressure. Females attempt to select the males with more money, power and prestige versus those with less. In a money oriented society, males with more power, prestige and money tend to be more intelligent, leaving aside exceptions like Robert Lindsay. Males attempt to breed with the best looking females, who often have more progressive phenotypes because progressive phenotypes are more attractive than archaic ones. Progressive phenotypes tend to be more intelligent than archaic ones for unknown reasons, or perhaps that’s just evolution in progress.

So both male and female Blacks started selecting a lot more for success and beauty, both of which are tied in with intelligence. This intense move towards a more progressive phenotype in 150 years seems to have coincided with major IQ gains in Blacks, both Flynn gains and more pure gains that actually reduced racial gaps.

9 Comments

Filed under Anthropology, Blacks, Flynn Effect, Gender Studies, Heterosexuality, History, Intelligence, Physical, Psychology, Race/Ethnicity, Regional, Sex, Sociology, USA

The Flynn Effect and “Hollow Gains”

Brian Williamson writes:

Ok, I feel a need to jump into this conversation. Has anyone mentioned the obvious here? Americans bred the intelligence out of African Americans intentionally during many years of slavery. What good is a strong minded, but weak bodied slave in the tobacco and cotton fields? Traits such as strength, stamina, and virility were needed, whereas an intelligent slave is one that has the potential to create havoc. This is no different than selective breeding used in pets, farm animals, race horses etc.

So “yes”, the black people in America are definitely less intelligent than the whites. We bred them to be exactly that. This is why American black athletes dominate almost every sport, yet maintain such a low IQ on average. Nowhere on earth, that I am aware of, does a single race so dominate athletics as the black culture does in America. It’s their one strong point, so they use it as well as they can to try to be financially successful.

Go to Africa and take 100 pictures of normal, well fed black men. Then take those pictures and compare them to 100 black men of the same age in America. You will see a “huge” difference in their physical appearance. And I’m not talking about their choice in attire either. As for whether they will ever bridge the IQ gape? Doubtful.

Yes the IQ of black people now is the equal to white peoples in the 1950’s. But the flip side of that is that white people are progressing intellectually also. Meaning to catch up, blacks will need to bridge a gap that is eternally fluctuating. Unfortunately unless our culture truly changes drastically, the American black race will always be less intelligent as a whole.

The IQ gape? What’s that? Oh the IQ Gape, with a capital G? That’s the new porn flick with the 150 IQ porn starlet! I remember now.

Yes, Black people are getting a lot smarter in some ways. This is clear.

However, Hereditariantards insist that Blacks are not getting 1% smarter. In fact, no one’s getting smarter. We’re all just as stupid as we ever were! Now, walking around my neighborhood every day, I suspect there is some truth to this, at least observationally. But in testing out the hypothesis, it’s just not true. Even these Mexes around here are getting smarter, although that’s hard to believe. But perhaps they had nowhere to go but up?

That’s because if your scores are only improving on half the tests and not on the other half, those are called “hollow gains.” Hollow gains apparently means no gains at all. Your test scores are rising, but there have been no gains. Ok. Um. Whatever.

My argument, speaking from reason and not Hereditardianism: 

These are not hollow gains and there is no such thing as hollow gains anyway. Intelligence is intelligence. If your score on a particular test is rising, guess what? You’re getting smarter on that particular test! And if your scores on a number of tests are rising, guess what that means? Whoa! Gadzooks! That means you are getting smarter on all those particular tests!

Isn’t that incredible? I mean who would have ever thought that rising scores could mean you were getting smarter, right? I mean a rising score could mean? Well? It could mean you are getting dumber right? It could mean you are not getting smarter at all, which is the position of HereditarianTards. But if you’re not getting smarter, then why are your scores rising on half the tests? Is God giving you a little help? You using magic? Have you developed ESP? Did you all of a sudden start writing the tests yourself? I mean, silly me, thinking that rising scores means you are getting smarter! What a silly idea! I always thought rising scores meant you were getting dumber! Duhhhh. If the score’s going up, of course you’re getting stupider, huh? I mean anyone knows that.

Does the fact that your scores are not going up on all of tests, or they are going up on half the tests and staying flat on half the tests, supposedly mean you are not getting smarter? But how do they figure? The only way to prove you are getting smarter is to do better on all the tests, say the Hereditariantards? Why? Ridiculous.

Let’s try this one. I mean, get ready for some breathtaking logic here. If you’re getting better scores on half the tests and not moving on the other half the tests, that means…you are getting smarter in some ways for sure, huh? I mean, I think that’s sort of obvious, right?

The HereditarianTards would disagree! If your scores are only rising on half the test and not on the other half of the tests, according to these geniuses, you’re not getting any smarter at all! You’re just as dumb as you ever were!

I am sorry, but that argument so does not pass the smell test.

30 Comments

Filed under Blacks, Flynn Effect, Intelligence, Psychology, Race/Ethnicity, Regional, USA, Whites

The Flynn Effect in Blacks Is Ongoing

Jason Y: “Mark my word though, that a bad environment will see NO improvement even over a 1000 years!”

Phil: You forgot something, time is a resource. Second, it’s been noticed in the “Flynn effect” with Blacks that it stopped.

According to my latest information from Bermuda, the Bahamas, Dominica, Kenya, the US and the UK, the Flynn Effect, or whatever it is, is ongoing in Blacks.

Blacks now match Whites on an IQ proxy in the UK, and Half-Black mulattos now match Whites on an IQ proxy in Bermuda.

And in the Bahamas, more or less pure Blacks (9% White) seem to have made some serious IQ gains. Their IQ’s are now 93, whereas on a genetic basis, we might expect an IQ of ~78 or even lower. There also appear to have been actual IQ rises in the UK and Bermuda among Blacks and mulattos respectively.

These three cases actually expand on the Flynn Effect because the FE was previously simply showing rising IQ’s for all races, and while Black IQ’s were going up a lot, White IQ’s were going up by the same amount, so there was no closing of the B-W gap, and there was no actual rise in relative IQ.

In the Bahamas, there was a 15 point gain in relative IQ, that is, Blacks closed 15 pints of the B-W IQ gap.

In the UK, there was a 14 point relative IQ gain, and Blacks closed a 14 point B-W IQ gap.

In Bermuda, there was a 12 point gain in relative IQ, that is, Blacks closed a 12 point B-W IQ gap.

In the US, Dominica, and Kenya, we are still seeing Flynn rises among Blacks, but in the US and possibly in the other two places, there has nevertheless been no closing of the B-W gap.

While it benefits Blacks to get smarter, if Whites are rising at the same rate, some of the gains and all of the relative gains are wiped out.

After all, if there is a tiger chasing both of us, I don’t have to be faster than the tiger. I simply have to be faster than you.

With both Black and White IQ’s rising in tandem, the effect is simply one of an IQ arms race where neither side is gaining on the other while both become more heavily armed.

84 Comments

Filed under Africa, Americas, Bahamas, Black-White (Mulattos), Blacks, Britain, Caribbean, Dominica, East Africa, Europe, Flynn Effect, Intelligence, Kenya, Latin America, Mixed Race, North America, Psychology, Race/Ethnicity, Regional, USA, Whites