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Who Is the Most Intelligent Person Who Has Ever Lived?

Answered on Quora:

Goethe, Michelangelo, William Sidis and a number of others have been suggested for the honors.

Goethe seems to take the prize for “universal genius.” He may have had a 220 IQ, if that is even possible. A man as smart as Goethe comes around maybe once every 100 years or so.


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Psychosis Is Bad for Your Brain

The problem of psychosis is not only the devastating social and societal effects it has on individuals and their effects on society. New research suggests that going psychotic is bad for your body itself.

These active psychotic processes seem to cause actual damage to the brain – consequently the negative symptoms seen later which may be a manifestation of that. In acute psychosis, you often get excess dopamine flooding out of dopamine neurons – in fact, L-Dopa, a dopamine drug given to Parkinson’s Disease characterized by dying dopamine neurons has the side effect of acute psychosis. It is thought that the excess dopamine flooding out of these neurons may damage these neurons or the connections.

Damaged dopamine neurons could cause the flattened affect, boredom and “staring at  your shoe for 10 hours” negative symptoms that occur later in the illness as some of these same symptoms are characteristic of Parkinson’s. Any major flooding you get out of neurons might damage the neuron. MDMA causes massive outflows of serotonin and it definitely damages serotonin neurons or more precisely the connections between them. The connections are damaged and become shorter and frayed. They do grow back but they typically don’t grow back to their full length and breadth. You get massive outflows of dopamine with methamphetamine also, and increasing evidence shows that this drug can also damage the brain, once again more the connections (dendrites) rather than the cells themselves.

You hear over and over how drugs kill brain cells but they don’t usually do that. It is more common that they damage the connections or they make it so a certain receptor on a particular type of cell does not work quite as well. Your brain cells are dying off all the time anyway, as they peak at age 23 and then drop off every year until death (this is why musical and mathematics prodigies peak very early in life – music and math benefit by high fluid intelligence or sheer brain speed.

Bottom line is being psychotic is bad for your brain. That’s as good a reason as any to get a handle on any active psychotic process.

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Qualitative Differences Tend to Wash Out at Higher Levels

And they tend to be much more glaring at lower levels. This literally holds true in almost anything – from waterfalls to basketball.

IQ Differences Are Most Noticeable at Lower Levels

And at higher levels, it’s hard to see the difference.

Let me give you an example. Say we have a guy with a 125 IQ like commenter Tulio. My IQ is 1.5 standard deviations above his. That’s a very extreme difference. However, realistically, we have 125ish IQ people on this site, and it’s hard to say that I am much smarter than they are. I regard them as very bright and they make some unusually perceptive comments. If differences are there, they are so fine-grained that they are hard to see.

Now let us look at another 1.5 SD variation. A 100 IQ person and an 78 IQ person. That is the exact same spread between me and the 125 guy, but here the difference will be vast and profound. Even at 107 and 85 –  once again, a 22 point spread – the differences will be quite glaring. The 85 IQ people will seem literally stupid to even a 107 IQ person.

It holds true as we move up. A 112 and 90 IQ person have a 1.5 SD spread, and you will indeed see some important differences in intelligence. The 90 IQ people will not seem stupid to the others – instead, the 112 people would describe the 90 IQ people as “not that smart.” That phrase means something a lot different from calling someone stupid. It means they are not stupid at all, but on the other hand, they are not real smart either. They are smart enough to get by and function, but you get into anything remotely intellectual, and can you their eyes start swimming. You are literally talking to a wall or talking to yourself. That 90 IQ will barely understand what you are saying.

You will have to keep defining words, events, concepts, etc. so much that the conversation will start to break down, as the smarter person feels tried, and the slower person starts to feel the other is making them feel stupid.

What I am trying to say here is that as you go up IQ-wise, the differences tend to wash out. Often you can barely even see them even if they are there. If there are any differences, they are between high achievers and super-achievers or super-achievers and ultra-super-achievers, and those differences barely seem to matter.

Compare an Olympics event. Sure, some will take home the Gold and Silver, but even the losers are fantastic athletes. They are all great athletes, but even greats sort out between greats and ultra-greats.

This bleeds over into other things.

Cars, Waterfalls and Brewers

What’s the difference between a Mercedes and a Jaguar? Some might say the Jag is a lot better, and perhaps that is true. But does it matter? A Mercedes is a fantastic car. Perhaps a Jag is super-fantastic, but who would care about the differences other than a real car snob?

Let us look at natural things like the waterfall example below. I am sure you can line waterfalls up in terms of superiority. I have some lineups like that. You might make a case that Niagara Falls is qualitatively superior to Bridalveil Falls in Yosemite, and the analysis is surely technically correct. But does it matter? Niagara Falls is stunning. But you have ever seen Bridalveil or better yet, Yosemite Falls? They will take your breath away.

At the same time, differences are lower levels are more glaring.

The gap between an average waterfall (I consider even these to be a bit spectacular) and a lousy waterfall (not sure what that is, but it probably exists) is probably quite noticeable.

The gap between an average car, say a Ford, and a real beater like a Chevy Vega is quite extreme. The average car will destroy the low quality car in terms of functionality. The beater will literally break down after 30-60,000 miles and you will need to buy a new engine, transmission, or car.

You can expand this to coffeemakers, microwave ovens, can openers, or all sorts of things. I’ve had some low-quality coffeemakers and can openers and they were pretty bad. The brewers quickly break and go dirty when they are failing, and the can opener never did work well.

But if you compare a high end coffee maker, say a Keurig, with say a Brics,  you won’t see much difference. Maybe the Keurig is a bit cooler, but I would love to have a Brics brewer. You won’t see much difference at the high end. A good brewer is a good brewer. A comparison between a good brewer and a great brewer is not very important to anyone but coffee snobs.


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How Well Can Very High IQ People Do High Level Work of any Kind after Say One, Two, Three Drinks or under the Influence of Other Drugs?

This is a question I asked on Quora, so obviously I cannot answer it. I got some answers that were quite interesting though.

There are 11 different answers here, and you are welcome to look them over.

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Because of the Philosophical Problem That Arises from Someone Who Isn’t the World’s Most Intelligent Person Trying to Measure Others’ Intelligence, has Chris Langan Ever Considered Designing an IQ Test?

Answered on Quora.

The people around Langan in the extreme High IQ societies and groups (IQ = 160+) have been involved in not necessarily writing better IQ tests but in trying to write IQ tests that will specifically test for IQ’s in the 160–200 range, since most IQ tests top out at 160, and some top out even lower than that.

The problem is getting good validity for these tests, as the number of people with IQ’s this high is very small, and you need a large group to get good validity. So in a scientific sense it is a bit of a hopeless endeavor, but nevertheless, I think they should be able to write some good tests that measure extremely high IQ’s better than anything we have now. In fact, the group claims that some of its new tests measure very high IQ’s very well, but that’s them plugging their own. I am inclined to believe them though. They’re very smart people, and they would not lie about something like this.

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Who Is the Smartest Person Who Ever Lived?

Answered on Quora.

Goethe, Michelangelo, William Sidis and a number of others have been suggested for the honors.

Goethe seems to take the prize for “universal genius,” and in fact, that is what he was called during his time. He may have had a 220 IQ, if that is even possible. A man as smart as Goethe comes around maybe once every 100 years or so.

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Drug Culture in the 1970’s

The drugs back then were mostly just pot/hash/hash oil, some cocaine (not much), and psychedelics, especially LSD. PCP was also quite popular but it was also very much maligned. It was usually not called PCP but instead it was called “crystal” or “cannabinol”. Crystal would be sprinkled on marijuana leaves and passed off as pot. Cannabinol looked like a very small amount of silly putty. It was smoked.

Many to most users saw themselves as “hippies.” Hippie culture was still going very strong in the early to mid 1970’s. In fact, hair never got that long in the 1960’s. It was in the 1970’s when men really started wearing  their hair long and hippie culture definitely went mainstream in a huge way. In the  1960’s, I think it was always somewhat sidelined as a freak phenomenon. Most high school and college students in the 1960’s were probably not hippies. I would wager that many more were in the 1970’s.

LSD was usually “windowpane” – some of the craziest, strongest LSD I have ever taken. It was just a tiny sliver that looked like a piece of very thin glass. Some people would  put it in their eyeball! It gets into your bloodstream just fine that way.

I remember one day, two of my best friends showed up at high school with a cassette tape box. They opened it up and showed it to me. Inside were 300 hits of Brown Windowpane LSD. It was very early in the morning. The school day was not yet through before they had sold out the whole box – all 300 hits in a school with 3,500 students enrollment. That shows you the extent of drug use at a White middle to upper middle class high school in the suburbs in those days. Drug use was off the charts. Could you sell 300 hits of strong LSD at a suburban high school nowadays before the day was out without getting caught?

This was another thing. No one would tell on you back then. Narcs were seriously hated and if you turned in a drug user or dealer, your name was mud for eternity. There were probably straight-o’s that might turn you in, but  I think even they were afraid of being “narcs.” If an undercover officer tried to make a drug arrest in the middle of the school day, I am afraid that he might actually start a riot – that’s how anti-police high school students were back then. Anyone who wanted to be a cop when he grew up would be completely eliminated from everyone’s social circle as a “straight-o”, a “geek” an “idiot” a “loser” and especially a “pig.” If he tried to attend a party, someone might hit him. “Police officer” was simply not an acceptable career choice.

Neither was going in the military. This was during the Vietnam War Era with Watergate going on, and all high school kids hated Nixon. Only a complete idiot would volunteer for the military. Remember that during this era, ROTC offices on college campuses were actually being bombed and burned to the ground! I do not know one person who went in the military after high school.

Why would anyone do that? Such a person would be known as an “idiot” and really, you would not even want someone like that in your social circle. At the very least, you would be a “square” and that was very bad. Squares got ostracized in the worst way, thrown out of most social circles and no one would talk to them. They might join up with some other squares and form some square clique, but everyone else avoided them. Also to be a square was to be a “geek” and a nerd, and the idea was no chick would look twice at you.

That’s how popular acid was back then. Most people didn’t take it many times – just a few times here and there. But others were acidheads – I had friends who took it every single weekend for years on end and eventually racked up ~300 trips. I never met a single LSD casualty in my life. I don’t think they exist. One of my best friends is held up as a classic LSD casualty,  but there is nothing wrong with him at all  other than the fact that he seems very weird in that he has all sorts odd mannerisms, etc.

The problem with the LSD casualty account for this guy is that he is 100% normal and logical in his mind – if anything, he is an inhibited introvert. Supposedly the acid caused all these weird, basically neurotic or eccentric mannerisms, but the thing is, I knew this guy when he was only in 7th Grade before he had taken even one drug and he was far weirder than than he was after the dope. If you want to play cause and effect, go for it, but in his case, you are forced to conclude that the drugs actually made him more normal. Truth is this guy was weird as Hell from day one and he was way weirder before drugs than afterwards, so  you were not  seeing drug effects, you were just seeing some naturally eccentric person.

Interestingly, I saw his IQ score when my counselor showed me mine b because his name was right next to mine. He had the exact same IQ that I have – 147. So this was probably a case of  as IQ rises higher and higher, you start to reach a point of diminishing or even negative returns where with each rising IQ point, the person seems to get weirder and weirder and this actually gets seriously in the way of making a living and even functioning well in society.

That’s why you see all those 160+ IQ men who are not married, never date, are celibate, live alone in small apartments, are painfully shy and introverted, are unemployed or have very low paying jobs and live on the edge of poverty. These people have the problem that they are so damn smart that they are basically too smart to even function in our society, so they end up being social and occupational failures in many ways.

I have seen some very bad trips – a friend of mine was hospitalized for 48 hours on a bad LSD trip that was more funny than anything else. I never had a bad trip on LSD, but I have only taken it nine times.

There were also pills called “whites”. That was illegally manufactured amphetamine made by motorcycle gangs. I believe I have heard that the stuff was never anything but ephedrine. They were quite popular. Downers were also popular, especially Seconal. Those were called “reds.” I took one once and it was like drinking a six pack – a similar seriously drunken feeling.

Meth was for all intents and purposes nonexistent.

Cocaine was very expensive and hardly used outside of very wealthy circles. However, it was heavily glamorized as a harmless recreational drug, which it is certainly not.


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My Unadulterated Thoughts on Intelligence Variance among the Races

Someone recently asked me my unadulterated views on intelligence variance among the races. Incidentally, he was a Black man. Generally, I take the 5th on that question and simply say that there are intelligence differences among the races, that is, yes, Whites are smarter than Blacks, NE Asians and Jews are smarter than White Gentiles, etc.,  all on average, mind you, but IQ tests prove this very well, and IQ tests absolutely measure intelligence better than any other device we have. Usually just saying that it’s a proven fact that on average Whites are smarter than Blacks is enough to consign me to the Societal Doghouse for eternity,  so I don’t bother piling it on. I say yes, Whites are smarter than Blacks, but we don’t know what causes this, if it is genes or environment or both or something in the air. In public statements I say I am agnostic on the causes.

The truth is that I am lying. I simply do not want to come out and say that there are genetic differences in intelligence between the races because my name is mud enough as it is and there’s no reason to keep digging once your enemies have thrown you in a hole that goes halfway to China already.

But now I will come out and confess that I do believe that there are genetic differences in IQ between the races. I expect that I will now be vastly more ostracized than I am already after I say this.

I do believe there are cognitive differences between the races that are genetic. However, I add one proviso to that. Usually when people that there are behavioral or cognitive differences between the races, what usually follows is a Doomsday statement along the lines of “No hope for Blacks.” They say that Blacks will be less intelligent and highly criminal forever since it’s genetic and genes are destiny.

The thing is I don’t believe in that. I believe that genes tend to be destiny in a macro but not micro sense, that is among groups but not among individuals and subject to much variation.

But I also believe that environments can modify genetic tendency. A typical environment will result in a typical behavior and cognitive outcome for the group. A bad environment, which we seem to specialize in as humans, will result a catastrophic outcome for the group with behavioral and cognitive outcomes expressed at an extreme level. A good environment will result in the behavioral and  cognitive outcome being relatively better for the group.

And an extremely good environment or a Super-environment as I call it may result in an outcome for the group that completely washes out the behavioral or cognitive profile for the group allows them to match better performing groups. I am reminded of a Black tribe in Burkina Faso of one million members. They have a homicide rate as low as the Japanese, 1/100,000. They are Muslims, they live in the desert, they value education, they live a very traditional life and perhaps most importantly, they place great value on the wisdom of elders, especially male elders.

People like to say that you can never turn Blacks into Norwegians or Japanese. In  terms of sense of humor, I think Blacks not turning into Norwegians is an excellent trend. This syllogism is true as far as it goes, but here we have a tribe of 1 million Blacks in the darkest heart of Black Africa where none of the light of modernity shines who at least on one important variable, have somehow managed to turn themselves into Japs.

In intelligence, we know have a case in the UK similar to the case in Burkina Faso for behavior.

Nevertheless, the latest scores out of the UK have British Blacks matching Whites on high school achievement tests. It’s not an IQ test but it can be a proxy for one. Anyway it predicts job success and performance very well, so it doesn’t matter if it’s not an IQ test.

There is a solution to this conundrum. Even with genetic IQ differences, there still room for environment to close the gap. However, the environment for Blacks to close the gap as British Blacks did would have to be a “super-environment” which may have been achieved in ultra-PC UK. However, I would say that these super-environments are hard to achieve, and most places will not be able to create them, so Blacks will fall behind in most environments.

In contrast, Whites and Asians need only a typical environment to succeed. In a poor environment, a lot of poorer Whites will fall behind but many others will succeed. The Blacks will simply be completely plowed under far worse than in an ordinary environment. Curiously the cognitive power of some groups like Chinese and Jews may be so high that they can surmount genetically even quite poor environments. Their genes just plow right over the environment.

In the same way, Blacks do have a tendency towards crime that I regard as genetic. However, if we set IQ at 113 (about yours) Blacks and Whites have the same crime rates. So if we could raise Black IQ, we could lower Black crime because as Black IQ rises, cognitive capacity rises up and overpowers or overwhelms any genetic tendency towards crime. In other words, an intelligent Black man may have the same genetic tendency towards crime as an 85 IQ Black man, but the 113 IQ Black man’s IQ simply overrides, bulldozes and plows over the genetic tendency towards crime because IQ suppresses criminal behavior and as IQ rises, crime drops because of the crimino-suppressant effect of rising IQ.

As you can see, my views on this are quite nuanced. Yes, Blacks are less intelligent and more criminal than Whites and this is in part due to genes. However, given the right environment, these outcomes can be improved and if you make the environment spectacular enough, you can even wash out these genetic tendencies entirely and Blacks can match Whites or even East Asians. However, creating these Super-environments is going to be very hard to do.

I have also postulated a theory about how increasing IQ serves to suppress genetic tendencies towards crime and how IQ acts as a barrier against bad environments, with the highest IQ’s having nearly suppressive effects on bad environments, average IQ’s have a subset badly affected by bad environments while others weather it and the lowest IQ’s being no barrier at all against bad environments or even worsening their bad effects by introducing  the equation of Low IQ + bad environment which seems to result in an exponential effect worse than either alone.

Not that my nuanced views will matter to the Commissars of the Cultural Left though. I’m already an Enemy of the People, and this will just increase my sentence at the intellectual gulag archipelago where I was shipped to long ago.


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Response to Do Intelligent People Realize That They Are Smarter Than Anyone Else Surrounding Them?

Here is an unpleasant but typical response to my answer from Quora. This is such a typical response or answer that it could nearly be cookie-cutter. The IQ Forum is a great place for savants, geniuses, and other gray matter freakazoids to go on about their beloved secret secret, but sadly, it’s also badly invaded by IQ haters, almost all of them liberals.

You have to wade through endless tiresome pages of liberal screed and screed, of liberal snicker and snark about how IQ means nothing, how the tests don’t measure intelligence, how a high IQ only means you scored well on a test, how everything else in the world is important because IQ isn’t, how really high IQ people never talk about and those who do are not that smart (an American lie), how all of the other eight or 80 or 800 different types of intelligence are just as good as IQ, how everyone needs to shut up about IQ (so why are you in the IQ section?). 

You must wade through eye-drooping yawners such as the endless annoying conflation of intelligence and wisdom (which are not the same thing), the neverending remarks about the obvious, like how intelligence does not equate to success – duh, the repetitive copypastas of very high IQ (160) Stephen Hawking’s painfully retarded remark about IQ, the constant examples of high IQ fools, idiots and failures, over and over, drearily and boringly.

All of the liberal IQ-hating tedium and pablum, tirelessly reiterated and regurgitated like some liberal verbal perpetual motion machine, on and on, the same old liberal same old, the same tired liberal shit, the same snoozing Liberal IQ Denial which is really, let’s face it, Liberal Intelligence Denial.

This post, while perhaps well-intentioned, ironically comes off a bit arrogantly. You seem consumed with how smart you are—navel-gazing, in a way, and feel free to express this only in the safety of an online medium. It smacks of narcissism that you feel is too dangerous to express in the real world. I may have misgauged the tenor of your post but it seems superfluous and states the same thing in more than one way. We get it, you’re incredibly smart.

I also think there’s something fallacious about your conviction: while your IQ may be in the 99.99 percentile, this is only one way of measuring intelligence. Does your IQ mean you could be Beethoven, Steve Jobs, or even a civil rights hero not requiring “objective” genius? Of course not. Only a TINY percentage of the population can achieve those heights and it’s safe to say that IQ is only a small piece of the puzzle. Other factors, not reflected in an IQ test include creativity, emotional intelligence, memory, articulacy and language skills, charisma, and more.

IQ Hatred is the American disease. It’s deeply embedded in our culture.

Sigh. You just can’t escape the liberal IQ bigots, can you? Even on the Quora form IQ section which has been specifically set aside for us high IQ types as nearly the only place in society we can talk about these matters due to attitudes like the commenters, the IQ haters and IQ bigots swarm right into our safe space IQ bar nevertheless and start throwing chairs around and picking fights.

We know. We know we can’t talk about this shit. We know it’s a social faux pas. We know it’s a social violation. Mostly due to prejudiced liberals like the commenter. That’s why we mostly never talk about it, especially in public with folks we do not know well. Alas, even here in the IQ section of Quora, our one tiny safe place on Earth where we can go on and on about our brains, it turns out to be a damned social violation even here.

Narcissism which is kept hidden to yourself and hence invisible to anyone isn’t even narcissism.

Narcissism is NPD – a personality disorder.

Anything less than that is relegated to self-esteem. Narcissism and self-esteem are synonyms. High narcissism just means high self-esteem, and it’s generally seen as a sign of good mental health. Thinking you are hot shit or the cock of the walk or having a high opinion of yourself is not necessarily narcissism. In fact, many such folks have robust mental health.

Vain and conceited people are not necessarily narcissists. Most such folks simply have high self-esteem.

Having a big ego does not necessarily mean narcissism. Most such folks simply have big egos, often because they have been very successful.

I have dealt, usually fleetingly, with some pretty famous people in my life. Like have their own Wikipedia entries famous. Quite a few had huge egos, and arrogance was extremely common. You feel like you are talking to a 20 foot high marble statue staring down its nose at you from above. It’s a very humbling experience. Yet I think most were not narcissists. They just had egos the size of small planets, and often for a good reason.

Narcissists are assholes. All their self-esteem is for themselves, and there’s nothing left over for anybody else. They don’t care about others. They don’t like or love others much. As long as you still love other people and treat them well, you can have an ego the size of Jupiter and not be a narcissist.

The conflation of egotism/self-esteem with narcissism is ubiquitous in US society. Usually the folks doing it are fairly educated. But they all wrong, and many are even projecting.

Once again, “hidden” narcissism isn’t even narcissism because narcissism is pathological and is defined by causing interpersonal difficulties. If nobody can see it, it’s not doing anyone harm.

PS I work in mental health.

Not sure what the commenter’s IQ is, but I wonder if it is in the very high IQ range. I doubt it. Because you see, someone in that range would not have written his post because he doesn’t understand very high IQ people, probably because he is not one. I have met many very high IQ people and observed many others in my life. My whole family is high to very high IQ.

The thing about very high IQ people is that it is quite common for them to be very aware of this fact most of the time. And most of them love to talk about it if you get them alone, contrary to the American lie that if you talk about, you don’t have a high IQ because supposedly high IQ people do not need to talk about it.

Well, maybe they don’t need to, but a lot of them do talk about it, and I will bet you good money they were not lying about their scores.

In fact, it is quite normal for a very high IQ person to talk about it. I have courted and dated a number of very high IQ women, and every one of them loved to talk about this subject. Why not? If you are superior in some way, go ahead and take your pride. You deserve it.

They are extreme outliers in terms of IQ, and like most people with a superior talent, they tend to be a bit obsessed with it, which is normal, and I say good for them.

As IQ rises, it becomes more and more one of the most important things in their lives. Their intelligence is so far above average that they are nearly aliens, and this is jarringly apparent nearly everywhere they go. Their minds are always churning along like a Cray computer and that’s hard to ignore. You are being reminded of your super-brain all the time, every hour, and often more than that. So it ends up being on your mind a good part of the time because your super-brain takes over your world and starts coloring and changing everything about it via its distorted lens.

By the way, navel gazing isn’t narcissism either. It’s called solipsism, and yes, I am solipsistic. A lot of very smart introverts are. Nearly all females are. As you don’t like solipsists, I assume you don’t like females.

Lastly, IQ clearly does not correlate with success. My individual income last year was in the 27% bracket, and that’s the most money I made in my life. Nevertheless, such outcomes are not uncommon for very high IQ people, and as IQ rises above mine past 150 and especially to 160 and up, this problem gets so much worse. A lot of 160+ IQ men are single, celibate, never married, painfully introverted, and living in poverty or near poverty in a single apartment. It’s nearly a typical outcome.

Lastly, IQ is the only measure we have that measures intelligence.It is a test of, more than anything else, pure brain speed.

  • A higher IQ means a faster brain. 
  • It also means a more efficient brain. The higher the IQ, the better your brain utilizes glucose.
  • It also means a larger brain. As IQ rises, so does brain size.
  • Higher IQ also means superior abstract thinking.
  • Higher IQ means better short term and long term memory and also faster and better recall (to contradict the commenter’s statement about no tie between IQ and memory).
  • Very creative people tend to have high IQ’s. The best musicians and artists tend to have high IQ’s. I’ve known a lot of them.

Success in our society is not well correlated with intelligence, as society tends to value a lot of things more than sheer brains. This is the lesson of the commenter’s last paragraph where you discuss things IQ does not measure.

IQ is the only measure of intelligence that we currently have. It’s not that it’s only one of the ways – it’s the only way, period.

The commenter makes the mistake of correlating geniuses – Jobs, Beethoven, MLK – with very high IQ people in the genius category. 1% of the US is in the genius category. That’s 3.3 million geniuses in the US. Not all of them will grow to be the folks the commenter discusses of course. Geniuses like Jobs and Beethoven are very rare. Of course they also tend to be very high IQ, but just because you are one of the 3.3 million does not mean you are like Beethoven.

This is another mistake that Americans often make – conflation of genius in the sense of Mozart or Jobs with genius as an IQ metric = 140 IQ, just a place on the IQ highway. They are not the same, but people like the commenter conflate them all the time for some unfathomable doggoned reason.

Creativity: The most creative people tend to have high IQ’s.

Emotional intelligence: Right. Although EQ and IQ correlate fairly well, many very high IQ people are social retards or especially social failures. And as IQ rises, in fact, social failure, mostly due to sheer weirdness, rises.

Memory: IQ measures memory.

Articulacy and language skills: IQ measures language skills very well, articulatory skills, not much at all.

Charisma: Of course not and in fact as IQ rises into the very high IQ range, charisma drops off dramatically and reverse charisma such as open social failure sets in.

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Do Intelligent People Realize That They Are Smarter Than Anyone Else Surrounding Them?

Answered on Quora. Quora is neat because there is an IQ section and there are frequent questions about IQ, often directed at high or very high IQ people. A lot are on the lines of How do very high IQ people think/react/live/feel etc. about this or that? What is it like to have a very high IQ? Well, those are valid questions and they need answering, so lots of high and very high IQ people on there jump in and answer those questions. It’s completely socially acceptable to do that on there.

That’s neat because the whole rest of society is pretty much blocked out to discussions like that. You simply cannot talk about how smart you. You can talk about being superior in any other way (face it: high IQ people are superior at least on the one metric of intelligence), and most people will eat it up if you do it in the right way. Personally, I recommend false modesty. When discussing any accomplishments,  I often shrug my shoulders like I am talking about a glass of water or I even put my head down, lower my voice and act like I am embarassed or even ashamed of the accomplishment. Mostly I just discuss it matter of factly like it’s nothing. This usually goes over very well. But you can’t really talk about brains at all.

You certainly cannot discuss your IQ score most of the time. It’s a social taboo. I can’t even write about the subject on this blog, even though this is an IQ blog for Chrissakes, because writing about it on the blog falls under the same taboo as discussing it in public. You are “bragging” and you are violating the social taboo about as much as if you blurted it out in public.

However, Quora provides a completely socially acceptable forum for high and very high IQ people to discuss IQ and their intelligence without necessarily being seen as bragging (granted some still come off as braggarts due to the way they talk about it not because they mention the fact). I suppose the social taboo police types still think it’s horrible that we talk about in forums designed for that specific fact on Quora, but honestly, they can go to Hell. There’s nothing wrong with talking about anything on a public forum set up to discuss specifically that very thing.

Anyway, here is my answer. Hope you enjoy it and I hope at least one person finds some good advice here because there’s also a life hack technique discussed here about being a social actor to play a fake role and get along better with others.

You must realize that at any given time, I actually am smarter than everyone or certainly almost everyone around me, assuming that intelligence = IQ, which I believe it does. According to my IQ score, if you have 1,000 people in a room, I am smarter than all of them. You have get 2,000 people in the room to have one person who is on my level or higher.

So in my small city, there should be 60 people as smart or smarter than I am. That assumes my city has an average (100) IQ, which is highly dubious. I would say instead that the IQ of this city is more like 93, if it is even that high. Now I cannot do the math anymore because I only know how to do it with IQ set at 100, but the number is now less than 60. Edit: I just did the math and at my city’s 93 IQ, there are exactly four people in this city who are as smart or smarter than I am. Wow, that’s a powerful thought!

That means that if you got 1/4 of the population of my city together, I would be smarter than all of them! You would have to get half the town in one place to get one person as smart as or smarter than I am.

However, even though that is an objective fact, I rarely make myself aware of it. I simply blot it out of my mind. I live in a tough minority-heavy working class or even poor neighborhood. This place is like the hood or the ghetto, except it’s Mexicans, so it’s a barrio, so it’s much more livable than a Black ghetto. But the general vibes are the same. All of the men are very tough and hard.

There are gangs around here. There’s a lot of drinking and there are some drugs too. You can get hit anytime here for any reason if you disrespect someone or act like an idiot, so you have to be cool all the time. Gay men and lesbians are certainly not welcome here at all. Even feminine men would have a real problem because here if you are a man, you have to be hard because if you’re not, you might get hit. It’s a low class, hypermasculine, heavily ethnic, working class neighborhood. This place is anti-intellectual and I doubt if most people around here read one book last year.

The point is that I have to fit in here so I adopt more or the hard street tough hustler type mindset of the neighborhood. This means that most of the time, I shut down my own knowledge of my intelligence level and pretend that I am about as smart as those around me. The main reason is that I do not want to feel superior to these tough working class uneducated people around me. If I start feeling that way, I think they will pick up on it and regard it as arrogance and not be friendly. I want to be as friendly as possible so I try to get down to the same level of the salt of the Earth types.

On the other hand, most people around here have figured out that I am pretty damn smart because of the things that I like to talk about. We have Arabs around here and I ask them about their countries, US foreign policy and foreign affairs. They are amazed that I know so much about their country. They always ask me if I am from there or if I have been there.

Even the Mexicans and Salvadorans cannot believe that I know so much about their countries. They all assume I must be from their country because to them, no one not from there knows this much stuff about their land. The Indians are the same. They insist I must be Indian or must have been to India, otherwise there’s no way I could know all of this.

I must say that a lot of the Indians and Arabs are smarter and I can let down my hair with them pretty quickly. They often pick up that I am smart very quickly, and a lot of the Indian men are quite smart fellows. A lot of Arab men are also very smart. When I find another smart ethnic person, I show a lot more of my intelligence. They see this right away and sometimes switch into “intellectual mode” (especially the Indian men).

I am probably smarter than most all of even these Indian and Arab men but I refuse to think about or even recognize that because I want to be on their level. Instead I marvel at how much relatively brighter and more educated they are than most folks around here.

At times, I have to deal with some very smart people in this city, though they never live here. I mean physicians, pharmacists, judges, etc. I seem to be about on the same level as most of these folks. Especially physicians. Physicians are taken aback by me quite quickly, probably because I am a lot smarter than the average patient. They very quickly figure out that I am very smart, and they are often very surprised by how smart I am. They usually comment something along those lines.

If you have been reading this far, you can see that the smarter someone is, the quicker they realize that they are dealing with a very smart person on the other hand. I would say that the speed at which they recognize this almost correlates with IQ.

It’s not uncommon when meeting a physician that very quickly, maybe within a couple of minutes, he jerks his head back and shakes his head and is shocked at how smart I am. They appreciate it, and I can usually have some really neat conversations with my physicians because smart people (like physicians) like other smart people.

If you are very smart, like say a doctor, another smart person is going to be a lot more fun to be around because they are more on your wavelength. Also smart people, like physicians, like to learn new things, and smart people are always telling you new things. They also like to be challenged mentally, and smart people tend to challenge your mind.

A lot of people find this intimidating, but smart people, like say doctors, seem to find it as a sort of delightful challenge because they seem to like to crunch their brains, maybe almost even for sheer kicks. Also understand that smart people, like say physicians, are often also very curious and smart people are an endless source of fascination for a curious person because you can learn so many fun and cool things from them.

Do I know I’m smarter than most everyone around? I suppose I do, because it is a scientific fact. However, I often blind myself to this idea and a lot of the time, I even lie to myself, say it’s not true, tell myself I am an idiot, that I know nothing, exaggerate the intelligence of those around me, etc. This is a sort of acting or role-playing that I do so I can get along better with people around me.

Going around all the time consciously thinking you are smarter than most everyone around, even if it’s a fact, doesn’t seem to work very well. I seem to come off a bit uppity, superior or arrogant. I don’t want to come off that way because I want smooth relations with other humans. So a lot of the time I shut that fact out of my mind or even pretend it’s not true.

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