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Poland Talks Alt Left! Polish Left Political Journal Discusses the Alt Left movement with a Focus on My and Rabbit’s Writing

Here is the piece in the original Polish, and here is the English version for those of my readers too dumb to read Polish.

RACIAL REALISM, WHICH LEFT CENTRIST IN CULTURAL MATTERS

MICHAL SMOLEN
Columnist “Respublica Nowa”.
Social Philosophy and Innovation.

March 13, 2017

Two marginal racist bloggers from the US received Laurka in the the pages of a leftwing magazine.

Beautifully we differ on the left. Each of the left-wing circles reaches a different audience and offers a slightly different overview of the situation. So let’s rise above not very transparent for outsiders divisions, often rooted in long-standing conflicts personnel, and track the full range of left-wing press – from the liberal center-left to the environment very radical. Niezgoda is natural, and sometimes creative ferment. Sometimes, however, there is disappointment over a hard move to the agenda.

Niezgoda is natural, and sometimes creative ferment. Sometimes, however, there is disappointment over a hard move to the agenda.

RAGE

It got off to an interesting start:

Homegrown Leftists Criticize the Vistula Backwater for Failing to See the Latest Leftwing Trends from the Homeland of the World’s Creative Class

begins an article about the “Alt Left” written by Dr. Hab. Jaroslaw Tomasiewicz which appeared in New Citizen, a Polish leftwing social justice magazine. I regard foreign influences as inevitable and often useful, so naturally I was interested in this new leftwing movement outside the mainstream which has so far escaped my attention.

After today often encountered failure characteristics “Hipster-Left”, focused on easy wojenkach culture, the author writes about the new collective actor on the political scene, “The Alt Right – a rebirth of the “Old Hard Right” – ethnopolitical, traditionalist, populist – in a new postmodern form. A sort of return to the roots. And the Alt Right managed to overcome the Mainstream Left on its own home turf: to win the support or the workers by emphasizing economics and de-emphasizing cultural issues. Think a somewhat obsolete Thomas Frank.

A flashing red light at this point heralds a warning. Did Donald Trump really gain the support of part of the White working class through the efforts of the teenage racist trolls under the leadership of Richard Spencer – the elegant (at least when not performing a Seig Heil), erudite, and informal leader of the Alt Right?

You are probably thinking of the Centrist Democrats so disliked by Tomasiewicz. It seems however that the notion that the anti-elitist mood of working class Trump voters (many of whom supported Obama in the past) was powered by the notions of the Alt Right leader Spencer is not only factually questionable but also overly bleak in that it elides the appeal of Trump to a section of the electorate steeped in US nationalism. Or perhaps this is just a problem of the Old Left?

Tomasiewicz :

Some believe that the challenge posed by the Alt Right requires a symmetrical response: the creation of an alternative to the Mainstream Left emphasizing the forgotten foundations of Leftism, such as the primacy of economics over culture, the relationship of the base to the superstructure, and a return to the Marxian thesis that ‘existence shapes consciousness.’

Next there is a quote from a manifesto from “Alternative Left” writer Robert Lindsay proclaiming,

We will be leftwing on economic matters […] but rather Centrist in the sphere of culture.

Tomasiewicz later cites another vague point in Lindsay’s manifesto of the Alternative Left. This vision paints a picture of the Social Democratic movement distanced from the alleged excesses of Cultural Left, materialistic in the old style, although “small and diverse” – which, although it should not be imitated in the dark (we as Poles have common sense), nevertheless deserves our at least with fingers crossed.

RACIAL REALISM

So what’s wrong with this picture? More than you’d expect. The author refers to two online sources for information about the Alt Left, and clicking on either of them reveals some rather disturbing content. The Altleft.com site notes at the top of the page that it is The Left Wing of the Alt Right. Nothing dziwnegi therefore that it is enough time to go through the lengthy scraps to find the few real gems. In the text quoted by Tomasiewicz, we find this passage:

Though I disagree with him on some ideological points…It just so happens that I support Richard Spencer and repeatedly defended him when some oversensitive (and often sanctimonious) factions or some prominent individuals of the AltRight unsuccessfully tried to sacrifice him to improve the image of the movement.

In another text by the author of the site (who goes by the pseudonym “Rabbit”) in response to an appeal to downplay the racial aspect of the Alternative Left brand, he said:

The Alt Left always been about race realism and gender realism. This is the whole fucking nail on the head!

What is race realism? It’s the familiar old and frightening idea that believes in biological differences between “races” of people, eg. in terms of IQ, which it stipulates as very important for races to gain social or political significance. AltLeft.com openly promotes White Nationalism, and at the same time is quite honest, which clearly shows in the title of one of his posts talking about the “unreality” of nonracist “race realism”. The post notes the hypocrisy of the supposedly nonracist race realists and asks a rhetorical question:

“What’s wrong with hatred anyway?”

What of the second author of the Alternative Left manifesto commented on by Tomasiewicz? Robert Lindsay is a prolific blogger who refers to himself as a “liberal race realist” (the title of his previous ideological project), who rejects Political Correctness and “Cultural Marxism” and in their stead proposes “positive White identity” and masculinity for men (to fight Gender Feminism and Radical Feminism).

Once again though – it is not difficult to see where Lindsay is really coming from. Although in the manifesto quoted by Tomasiewicz, Lindsay rejects “racist fascism”, it begins with an attack on the Black Lives Matter movement and ridicules people who talk about White privilege or have an “obsession about structural racism.”

According to Lindsay, to belong to Alt Left, one should accept “racial realism”, which is the three pillars of Alt Left ideology – the other two are leftwing views on economics, to which Lindsay moreover dedicates little space, and a special form of moral libertinism who boils down to formally supporting the basic rights of minorities combined with a gut hatred against the movements that are fighting for those very rights.

Lindsay seems to be less directly hateful – and more eccentric – than Rabbit, but his journalism nevertheless includes discussions about the abominations of gay sexual practices, alleged reasons why women cannot lead Western civilization, and complaints about aggressive and obnoxious “Jewy Jews” who are themselves responsible for anti-Semitism.

As for the Alt Left, this is all we need to know about it right here. Tomasiewicz refers only to Lindsay and the author of a blog about the “Left Wing of Alt Right” because that’s all there is to the “Alternative Left.” Otherwise, the concept still appears occasionally as a rhetorical device in journalism, primarily as an insult. So the entirety of this new and noteworthy movement is a small group of readers of two marginal blogs that are attempting to enrich the standard White Nationalism of the AltRight with an aversion to neoliberalism and a promotion of anti-feminist libertarianism (the latter being merely a rejecting the traditionally conservative views of women).

LEFT PRIEST JOHN

The detailed reasons why this leftwing website published a fictitious Laurka for a couple of some marginal racists in the chronicle New Citizen are not something that should concern readers. Suffice to say that it is difficult to believe in the sincerity of the author, who was after all the one who first discovered the quoted texts of these bloggers. Why did he go out of his way to ferret out these marginal bloggers? Nevertheless, I do not think however that one could accuse the editor-in-chief of tolerance for “race realism,” nor is the readership enthusiastic about this concept.

The case recalls to me deeper concerns regularly buzzing discussing some Polish Left intellectuals dislike for the “Left of manners.” Often it is not so much about the same demands as to their alleged incompatibility of the conservative expectations of the people, of the people, by which after all had left in this whole walk. These charges are often simply unfair – when Manifa passed under the banner of radical równościowymi also in the economic sphere, this did not prevent duplication of repeated years of lies about the concentration of the whole feminist movement solely on the alleged “obyczajówce.”

For this often based on fantasies – Maciej Gdula in Political Critique accurately dismantling the idea of conservatism of the people, shared by anti-elitist liberals as well as a current anti-elitist Left. A plea to leave the Left only about the workers and to reject helping different minorities seems particularly unfair when he turns attention to the development in recent years of leftwing movements and characters (like Total in Poland or Bernie Sanders in the US), fully and harmoniously integrating “cultural issues” and “economics”.

The spectacular defeat as a positive reception of the text of the “Alternative Left” brings to light another problem. This article published in the New Citizen is the modern equivalent of the medieval legend about the state ruled by Father John, a Christian enclave which was kept somewhere in the distant Orient.

This is reflected in anecdotes written by various intellectuals, otherwise as different as Remigiusz Okraska, Stephen Twardoch and David Wildstein, that the notion of the good old people who do not care about newfangled oddities is every year moving further from reality.

The text Tomasiewicz, in which the role of Father John played the companion Richard Spencer, stands out as an apology for some particularly nasty and in the Polish context completely unacceptable notions (perhaps even ONR does not admit openly to the biological racism). We have only to barely scrape the surface of almost any “morally Centrist” manifesto’s  concern for ordinary people to see the usual hatred and disgust for the selected disadvantaged groups – sometimes consciously, often probably not. In this situation, to put on a mask of folk naiveté seems to be at best frivolous and at worst insincere and wicked, which did not approve of even calling yet to openly present their views of Rabbit of AltLeft.com.

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Attack SJW’s, Create a Trump Supporter

This poster on the Republican Women thread quoted below was banned, as I do not allow pro-Republicans to post on this site under any circumstances ever, but his comment is instructive.

Almost every single person I have ever met who is an SJW/PC/Cultural Left hater is pro-Republican/Trumpster/The Right. Even with those on the “Left,” this is a problem. They seem to be rather neutral about the threat of the Right, and they end up defending the Right a lot. That is because for the SJW-haters on the Left, the #1 enemy is the SJW’s.

Usually this means that they hate Democratic Party, not to mention anything further Left. It follows that they dislike the entire anti-Trumpster movement because they see it as being led by those evil SJW’s. There is also a lot of normalizing and equivocating going on by saying that the Democrats are just as bad or worse than Republicans. Almost all of the SJW-haters on the Alt Left are either openly supporting Drumpf, are rather neutral about him or are rather muted in their condemnation of him.

That is because in our lunatic culture, if you hate SJW’s, then that means you are on the Right. So lots of SJW-haters are drifting over to the Right because they have been told that that is what they must be considering how they think. That they can still be on the Left and be SJW-haters never occurs to them. And even on the Alt Left where they ought to know better, we see this same more or less Trumpster phenomenon. Because, you know, Trump is the biggest SJW-hater of them all. The Alt Left is so full of Trumpsters that the whole movement is just about a Trumpster Fire on its very own. Support/equivocating about Trump and the Right is destroying the Alt Left.

The truth is this:

  • The SJW’s themselves are creating or at least inflaming millions of Republicans, rightwingers and Trumpsters.
  • The SJW-haters, who think they are attacking the thing that is driving everyone to the Right, are themselves creating or inflaming millions of Republicans, rightwingers and Trumpsters.

If you support them, you create Trumpsters.
If you hate them, you create Trumpsters.

A bit of a Catch-22 here, would you not say?

The solution is to neither support nor hate the SJW’s. The solution instead is to ignore the SJW’s as much as possible as you ignore a child throwing a tantrum. You throw the SJW’s in their room and try to ignore their screams as much as possible, as all responsible parents do to immature children.

Personally, the SJW’s are my comrades, but I think they have gone insane. But those are my people because I am a man of the Left. People on the Alt Left need to decide if they are on the Left or on the Right. If you are an Alt Leftie who is a Trumpster or even equivocates about them, you’re not on the Left as far as I am concerned. Leftwingers don’t get to support the Right. They don’t even get to equivocate or go neutral on the Right. If you are on the Left, the Right and especially our class enemies the rich, will always be the #1 enemy far beyond any absurd or silly SJW’s spouting weird and nonsensical things.

In life you get to choose your enemies. It is said you should choose wisely. Indeed. I concur and I’ve been around six decades. Bashing SJW’s is a clear case of picking the wrong enemy. SJW’s are screaming little bratty children who need a timeout in their room with the door locked so they can get their tantrum out. The Right and Trump are a grizzly bear in your living room about ready to eat you and your family. And you guys say the bratty child is the enemy while you ignore the brown bear about ready to tear you apart.

Do these SJW-haters realize that the Right kills? That capitalism kills? That the ultimate expression of pure capitalism taken to its logical conclusion, the Trump Administration, is going to kill lots and lots of people if their policies go down? Aren’t you upset about that?

How many people do SJW’s kill? Name one. You jump up and down about Antifa who beat up fascists who deserve it, but how many people did these Antifa kill? Sure, they hurt a few people. A few fascists!

You don’t think Trump and the Republicans have already hurt some people? They’ve hurt way more than Antifas have, and their victims were far more innocent. Trump and his rightwing allies around the world have not just hurt but have out and out killed millions of people. Capitalism, particularly the warp speed Trump capitalism, kills millions of people every year, mostly of hunger and attendant disease, mostly in South Asia. The last figure I read was 14 million/year. I doubt if it’s gone down.

So let’s do the body count:

The Right (neoliberal capitalism): 14 million/yr.
Antifas: 0/yr.

You SJW-haters sure have some messed up priorities.

At least she probably knows how many biological genders there are. The number of crazy, angry, stupid Conservatives is minuscule compared to the amount of crazy, angry, stupid Liberals. Liberals so hypocritical, idiotic, sensitive, and mad at life that it’s almost funny. People like the lady in the picture are very few and far apart, especially when compared to the thousands of SJW snowflakes running around yelling their insane opinions at anyone around them.

Also if you are basing your choice of women off of politics, as you seem to be above, you should undoubtedly stick with Republican women… that is unless you have a fetish for beached whales with excessive hair dye, no common sense, and a complete lack of general direction in life.

Thankfully for those who have common sense and want America to get better, the snowflakes won’t have any children to pass their insanity on to. The women will flip out if a guy wants to date them (which is an unlikely scenario in the first place due to their appearance and personality) and she will probably scream rape. As for the male snowflakes… they are mostly in their twenties, still unemployed, and are still waiting for their balls to drop. In conclusion, I think we are safe from the worry of the SJW fruitcakes reproducing and further polluting everything with their lack of decency and reason.

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Some Descriptions of the Alt Left on the Net

The Alt Left is just the Alt Right, except they like Mao way more than they like Hitler.

Sort of correct.

The Alt Left are basically Alt Right Communists.

Sort of right.

The Alt Left is the left wing of the Alt Right.

Sort of, yes.

Ultra-brocialists.

Exactly.

I would imagine an “Alt-Left” would go beyond and be above that, putting class struggle over identity politics without using “class above all else” to shut down any debate over racism/sexism/etc. A Left that didn’t think accusing people of racism is enough to dissuade them from voting Trump/UKIP/Le Pen/et al but actively sought ways to persuade those with racist tendencies to not be racist.

A Left that was able to inform the working class that the Alt-Right and Far-Right are bad news for the working class as a class – as well as the well-documented ways they are bad news for various oppressed demographics. Finally, above all else, a Left that rejected the loopy elements of Identity Politics (as commonly found in academia particularly in the US but an issue in the UK as well, especially with the NUS) and injected some much needed rationality into the debate.

Perfect.

Aren’t the Alt Left just social democrats who are critical of immigration? Something like that.

Immaculate.

Seems like there are already people self-describing as the ‘Alt-Left’ in the sense of being the ‘leftwing of the Alt-Right’ — from what I’ve seen, social democratic on economic matters, very hostile when it comes to Identity Politics, feminism, etc., occasionally antisemitic.

Probably one of the best definitions so far.

There’s definitely a return to imagined Christian values/hetero nuclear family at core …you could have an Alt-Left that did that too I guess if you really wanted.

There are Alt Left people pushing exactly this. And anyone into traditional morals or traditional values with Left economics would absolutely be welcome here.

I think the Alt Left is the left wing of the Alt Right. That is how it seems to me anyway. Where the Alt Right embraces fascism, they embrace concepts like Maoism.

That’s about it.

Having said that, I think there’s space for some form of Leftism that is skeptical of both market and state but doesn’t sign up to any of the current far Left ideologies. And has good memes.

Sort of, yes.

Again, it’s just a liberal guy who is a White Nationalist. It’s basically the leftwing of the Alt-Right as the blog itself says or some kind of lite version of Nazbol with emphasis on the Naz and not a whole lot of Bolshevism.

Discussing Rabbit’s page. Nazbol Lite is a pretty good way to describe Rabbit, too.

Class Left is better. Or Classical Libertarians. Or Class Realists.

Classical Libertarians no; Class Left and Class Realists are both perfect. We are “class reductionists.”

Workerists.

Precisely.

We’re back to “we want a UKIP of the left” again.

A UKIP of the Left would not be a bad thing. It would seem to be an Alt Left project.

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Discussion: Are the Riots Helping or Hurting Our Cause?

Discuss.

Ryan England: The antics of antifa and the black-bloc are a concern of mine. My issue with them isn’t so much their ideology – the endgame for the kind of society and world I’d like to see looks very much like something out of anarchist and communist theory. This has been the case for me for decades now. But going out and smashing windows and lighting trashcans on fire isn’t going to result in the democratization of capital or even garner popular support for anti-capitalist ideals.

Leftwing politics have been struggling with a serious image problem for years now. We need to think in terms of how the moderates see us. We have to stop LARPing and beware the tendency to descend into an ideological purity spiral. This has been a concern of mine going back to the 1990’s, and with the rise of the Social Justice Warrior as the Internet’s favorite punching bag, it’s only gotten worse. Shit, the annoyance they’ve caused for so many people recently is a contributing factor to Trump getting in the White House.

The Left fails because it’s an insular little clique with its own lingo and its own little subcultures, and the bulk of the population – the people who most need to know what we have to say – are put off by it. On top of that, people get expelled from Leftist circles for the most frivolous and stupid of deviations from the ideological line – the big Alt-Left groups on Facebook are constantly getting posts from newbies talking about the stupid shit they get banned from anarchist and communist groups for.

We can’t riot. We can’t smash windows. We can’t shut down campus speakers we don’t like. That’s what Milo Yiannopoulos and his ilk want us to do. Did you all know that sales of his books SKYROCKETED since the Berkeley riots? He’s laughing all the way to the bank because of what happened, and many thousands – hundreds of thousands – more people who otherwise wouldn’t have otherwise have become interested in and even sympathetic with Milo’s thought. Goading dumb Leftists into doing dumb stuff is Milo’s whole business model. Why would we want to feed it?

We can’t sucker punch Nazis – not unless it’s clear that they’re out to cause trouble, and they were at one time. I remember Nazi skinhead gangs. They were bad news. You need antifa to deal with that. But socking a goofy civvy in the face, even one who has Nazi views, might make us feel good but also makes us look bad. Maybe not bad in our own books, but bad to the Average Joe whose long-term decision on whether to go Right or Left may ultimately hinge on which faction abstains from needless violence. Notice that the rightwingers stand off or even retreat when the shit hits the fan now and let the Left make asses of themselves? They’ve learned their lessons and are playing a long game here.

If Leftists keep rioting, we’ll burn not just our colleges and neighborhoods to the ground. We’ll burn our futures to the ground as well. We have to stop it. We have to stop LARPing, we have to present ourselves in a calm and rational manner so that our critiques of Trump and the deeper historical materialist ideas that our critiques are rooted in get taken seriously.

I am unsure.  The peaceful protests and even the property-destroying riots and Trumpster-assaulting riots are not increasing Trump’s popularity or decreasing the popularity of our side.

Yes, there are posts on Trump groups by people saying, “I am on your side now!” but most of them we don’t want on our side anyway. I am inclined to say, “Go vote for the Right!” for these people. A lot of these people call themselves moderates, but in the US, that means, “Trump and the Republicans are right 50% of the time.” That’s not moderate.

Since January 26, support for our side has gone up 3 points and support for Trump has fallen by 7 points. So even the violent riots are not hurting us yet. As long as they are not hurting us, I’m not inclined to support the argument that we need to stop this stuff because we are turning people off. In fact, we may even be converting some people. Antifas went to the Women’s March and tries to explain why they were rioting in DC on Jan. 20 (mostly property damage) and they said some of the liberal women were saying, “Well, maybe so. Maybe it needs to come to that.”

A lot of others on the Left, not just Leftists but often regular liberals, are acting nuts now too.

Sarah Silverman called for a military coup to oust Trump.

Kaine just told Americans to “take it to the streets.” This is being framed by the Opposition as a call for street violence.

Police refused to make even one arrest for the Berkeley riots. The mayor apparently gave them a stand-down order. There are photos of hundreds of police standing around doing nothing on the second floor of the Student Union while the Opposition is getting pummeled outside. They let the vandalism go on and not one person was arrested for a lot of serious assaults on Trumpsters. It sure looks like the police are implicitly saying they will not interfere when people smash stuff and beat up the Opposition. Few if any prominent liberals have even criticized the Berkeley riots, and the media is pretty much blacking them out, which is tacit acceptance at least for media cover-up.

I have not seen the Left so activated since the 1970’s. The anarchists themselves say that anarchism has never been so popular.

There are regular calls to assassinate Trump. Madonna practically threatened to blow up the White House. A BLM speaker the other day advocating “Killing people…killing the White House.”#killtrump tags have appeared in the 10,000’s on Twitter. There are so many that I am certain that the SS is hardly investigating them. There are SS agents themselves saying they will not protect him from assassin.

And Trump’s actions by themselves are quite violent. So we are comparing the structural violence of Trump with the street violence of antifa. I must say Trump’s violence is worse. Until it can be shown that these riots are objectively hurting us, I won’t agree with an argument that they are bad tactics due to decreasing our support and driving support to the Opposition.

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Fake News: Lies Galore about the Berkeley Riots

Trash: You summed it up. Young unemployed unkempt young men rioting over obscure British journalists in a minor venue of a “Berserkley”-a college famous for its radicalism anyhow.

Most have grown up in the suburbs their Jewish or WASP parents worked hard to pay for in order to shield them from NAM’s, poor rural white trash, urban squalor or anything rougher than a scraped knee at a soccer game or a slap from their father.

They have never served in the military, spent time in jail, been mugged or even boxed or wrestled in high school.

To the financial-industrial complex they are trivial and unimportant. Some of their parents are even low-rung cogs in that machine itself who have been dedicated slaves to the system and its owner.

Sad to say but they are not taken very seriously.

Some of the protesters are children of lawyers or other cogs in the liberal elite machine.

Others are children of cogs in the financial-industrial complex.

Chaotic amateur violence among blacks is a more serious civil matter. But these folks have never fired a gun in their life, or changed a tire, or oil for a car, or served in the military or done anything but hang around student unions drinking refills of coffee.

As revolutionaries they are amateur-no IRA provisional soldier has taught them the finer points of guerrilla warfare in a Middle Eastern training camp.

1. The rioters were Berkeley students and even professors. Not true.

Students who were at the protests said that the students were protesting peacefully when they were invaded by 150 antifa Black Bloc types. These guys then took the whole demonstration in a whole new direction. He said they were a lot older than students, average age in the late 20’s. People said that no one had ever seen these people before. Some thought they came from outside of Berkeley, possibly from Oakland. There is a large anarchist presence in Oakland that riots fairly regularly.

There was also an argument that Berkeley students are very privileged and would not want to have a serious arrest on their record.

2. The demonstrations/riots were sponsored by George Soros. Not true. Soros simply gives money to some of the liberal organizations that have been organizing demonstrations, such as those at the women’s marches. Soros does not issue any marching orders telling these organizations to stage demonstrations or any of that sort. These decisions are internal to these groups and I doubt if they would need to be convinced to demonstrate under Trump anyway. Of course there is no evidence that Soros is behind the antifa Black Bloc rioters.

3. The demonstrators/rioters are being paid by George Soros. Not true. There is no evidence that Soros has ever given one of these anti-Trump protesters one nickel for going to a demo and he certainly does not pay the rioters to riot.

4. The rioters are liberals. Not true. The demonstrators are a combination of liberals and Leftists. The overwhelming majority of them seem to be engaging in peaceful protest. The rioters are all Leftists. Specifically, they are Far Left antifa Black Bloc anarchists.

5. The rioters are all Communists. Not true. So far there is no evidence whatsoever that any Communists are participating in the riots. ‘Til now it has all been an anarchist faction. I am not even aware of a large Communist presence at the demonstrations. If someone can show me evidence of a large Communist role in the demonstrations, I would like to see it.

6. The “Alt Left” is demonstrating and even rioting. Not true. Nope, the Alt Left has no presence whatsoever in the riots and I am not even aware if any of us are participating in the demos. A lot of us support the demos and a few of us even support the riots, but the Alt Left has not participated in these events in any way so far.

7. SJW’s and the “Alt Left” are the same thing. Not true. This is a lie that crazy Trump supporters made up. We bashed them for their White Supremacist Alt Right movement which is so prominent among Trump supporters, so in order to deflect from that, they made up a lie that the Left, liberals/Democrats/Hillary voters along with Bernie supporters, SJW’s and the Far Left, are all part of something called the “Alt Left.” Problem is, they’re not. They do not identify as Alt Left.

You cannot put people into some artificial made-up category that they themselves reject unless you have some evidence that it applies to them. The only people that are Alt Left are a small group of rather socially conservative Leftists and liberals who support leftwing economics while opposing the Cultural Left. So calling the Cultural Left “Alt Left” is not only untrue; it is in fact a slander. Not only is the Cultural Left not Alt Left, but the Cultural Left is the perfect example of everything the Alt Left is opposed to.

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Berkeley Riots Escalate Dramatically Overnight

Amazing footage shot sometime in the past few hours in the early morning of Thursday, February 2.

Above, footage of the riots occurring while Milo was speaking. A huge crowd is gathered outside the venue. Antifa throw Bricks, rocks and fireworks at the first and second floors of the building, attack police are attacked with bricks and rocks, and dismantle police barricades. Later in the video, on Telegraph Avenue, an antifa assaults a Trump supporter and wrestles him to the ground. Several come to the young man’s aid and pull the two of them apart. The man who was attacked gets up and walks away.

Above, rioters attack pro-Trump people with flying objects and a flagpole. The girl early in the video is hit by a flying object. At :14, an antifa beats a Trump supporter with a flagpole! The Trump supporter somehow gets up and fights back. Later in the video, a bleeding Trump supporter is interviewed.

Incredible video. A journalist interviews a Milo fan wearing a Trump hat. At the end of the short interview, he thanks her and they part. Almost immediately, an Antifa attacks the young woman with pepper spray!

This video appears to be taken on Telegraph Avenue after the campus riot ended. A large group of demonstrators and antifa seem to be attacking and assaulting Trump supporters. The Trump supporters run away but the Antifa chase after them and attack them with poles and iron rods. One Trump supporter lies in the street, possibly knocked out cold. Others are run down and beaten to the ground.

After the riots at UC Berkeley were dispersed, demonstrators made their way to Telegraph Avenue. At some point, more rioting occurred. Ready tellers were smashed at several banks and some banks had most of their windows smashed. Mechanics, Chase, Wells Fargo and Bank of America branches were all vandalized. There were reports that at least four banks had been vandalized.

Above, rioters smash ATM’s in Berkeley.

Several fires were set in Telegraph Avenue. At least two banks were on fire near Center Street and Shattuck Avenue.

Graffiti was painted around. Slogans included “Antifa” and “Liberals get the bullet too.” So you can see these are radical Leftists who do not like your average Democratic Party peaceful Women’s March protesters at all.

A Starbucks was attacked by having its windows smashed out with iron bars. Rioters then went inside and looted the Starbucks. They distributed the looted property to people in the crowd. Robin Hood, I guess.

Most of the crowd appears to be just looking and cheering them on. There were a surprising number of young women in the crowd. Call me old-fashioned, but I would say, “That’s no place for a woman to be.”

The scene in that video has an air of menace. That looks like a very dangerous place to be right now. I would not want to be in that crowd. Perhaps they might turn on you. There is an undertone of anger and menace there that I would not want to be around.

When people get like that, they are like sharks who smell blood. You are in the middle of a dangerous, violent riot with some seriously unhinghed people around and there’s no guarantee that they won’t come after you too. These dangerous scenes are unpredictable. The rioters are getting amped up by destroying things, looting business and perhaps assaulting other people earlier. There’s no guarantee that you will be safe if only you appear to be on their side. It’s sort of like being trapped amidst a gang of criminals, but it’s not nearly that bad. But still, the vibe is the same.

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New Facebook Group – The Original Alt Left

I just created my own Alt Left FacebookThe Original Alt Left – group, not out of vanity but because one of my comrades asked me to form my own group and offered to be the moderator.

The Alt Left has become a brand name now, and most of the wings are getting pretty far away from the original values and manifestos as written by Rabbit, me, Ryan England and a few others.

They are either full of conservatives, spending all their time fighting SJW’s, or worst of all, somewhat less insane versions of SJW’s. A lot of others have taken a very hard line against Left economics and are proposing Keynesianism and social democracy instead. Nothing wrong with that, but the original idea was that the Alt Left should be open to consider all forms of Left economics. We are not anti-Communists! Leave that crap to the Right.

The original Alt Left was also quite a bit more socially conservative that most of the present wings.

In addition, the Alt Left as envisioned by Rabbit and me was to be a place where anything could be discussed and any sacred cows could be gored. As such it was race realist, gender realist or red-pilled, sexual orientation realist, gender identity realist, etc.

Almost all present wings have abandoned race realism as too much of a hot potato, but this group will continue allow discussion of racial differences with a Left viewpoint.

Any of my readers are certainly welcome to join.

Here is a description of the group that I wrote:

This is an Alternative Left group created by me, Robert Lindsay, who, believe it or not, is the person who actually created the Alt Left. However, now that the Alt Left has become a name brand with more wings than a flock of geese, many of these wings have gotten seriously away from the original intentions of me and some of the other early thinkers.

The main way they are diverging is towards conservatism. We are not conservatives! I do not know how many times we need to shout that from the rooftops. We are people of the Left – liberals, progressives, Leftists, socialists, Communists and anarchists. Now granted we rather weird and dissident Leftists, we are nevertheless of the Left. While social conservatives can stay, all other conservatives will be banned on sight. No supporting the US conservative movement, the Republican Party or Trump.

Another way the Alt Left has gotten away is that some wings are simply less insane versions of SJW insanity. We are anti-SJW and anti-PC to the core. Nevertheless, we still support the basic goals of all these liberation movements when they began. Our motto is, “We signed up for Liberation, not insanity!” We are for equal rights but against weirdness, insanity and the general Cultural Left Freakshow.

We are pro-civil rights and against real racism. However, modern anti-racism has gone insane. MLK would not recognize this clown car. 80% of what is called sexism, racism, homophobia or antisemitism is nothing of the sort. It is just real talk by real people. Nevertheless there are ugly racists, nasty antisemites, misogynistic men and women who hate men. These are the real forms of prejudice, and we will oppose those all the way.

A third way the Alt Left has gone out of control is that it spends most of its time attacking SJW’s and says almost nothing about the menace of Trump and modern Republican Party who are imposing a proto-fascist dictatorship on us.

All women are welcome to join! Please do!

Black people are more than welcome as are those of any other race! Come on in!

Sexual minorities are also welcome though they may dislike the tone.

Of course, socially conservative Leftists are more than welcome! You are the whole reason for this movement.

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Alt Left: Renunciation of an Alt Left Wing

I am taking this opportunity to sadly renounce completely a wing of the Alt Left known as the Left Wing of the Alt Right.

Rabbit is probably the best known member of this wing, but he is actually one of the least offensive of them. In a way, I still like Rabbit a lot. His views on race are irrelevant to me, and his racial proposals are rather mild, mostly centering on reducing non-White immigration, which is actually not a bad idea.

True, he is a White nationalist, but he is a pretty mild one. He is more of a White separatist, and he emphatically states that he is opposed to throwing even one non-White out of the country. Instead he would like to find some uninhabited land somewhere to set up his White state. Or maybe make one in space. Or in Antarctica. This is how he thinks. He’s a bit out there you might say, but in a harmless and rather charming way.

Clearly he’s miles better than most all White nationalists, who are a pretty vicious breed.

I think Rabbit’s moderation stems from the fact that Rabbit is actually a liberal. He is a man of the Left. He is leftwing on almost all issues other than race. Other than on race, he’s as liberal or Left as I am. The Left is mostly about compassion and has a strong anti-racist bent. I can’t help but think that being on the Left all this time has affected Rabbit’s views, and this is why he is so mild and reasonable compared to the rest of his ilk. It’s just not like a leftwinger to be a vicious racist. And in fact, there are virtually no seriously racist people on the Left. I do know some racists with leftwing sympathies, but to a man, they all voted for Trump. Every single racist I know voted for Trump, even the ones who are practically socialists or even Communists. Race simply trumps everything else for these guys.

Also, Rabbit is the sole member of the Left Wing of the Alt Right who seems to be having buyer’s remorse over Trump. He stated on this site that the Trump honeymoon is over, and most of Trump’s Cabinet picks were pretty cringey. Of course! Who would find Trump’s Cabinet picks cringeworthy? Why, a liberal or leftwinger of course! Rabbit cannot help but notice that these Cabinet picks are catastrophic from a liberal or left point of view.

Trump is like your ultimate rightwing nightmare, Ronald Reagan on steroids. Trump is a radical rightwinger, and his Administration is already the most rightwing administration in maybe a century. Who was worse? Herbert Hoover? Trump is going to be much worse than his heir Reagan and he is already worse than George W. Bush, who committed election fraud to steal two elections in order to hold the Presidency for eight years.

The fact that Rabbit made these statements makes me feel good for him. His racial views are only a small part of his overall worldview. On everything else, he is quite to the left, in fact, he is even more leftwing than I am on some things. Like a true man of the Left, Rabbit is appalled by almost all of Trump’s nightmarish Cabinet picks.

However, most other folks on the Left Wing of the Alt Right continue to promote Trump. Abel Dean’s Alt Left group on Facebook is full of conservatives and Trump supporters. Even his top posters make posts bashing “progressives.” What? Silly rabbit, the Alt Left is progressive! When you bash progressives, you bash us, you idiot. As I have to reiterate endlessly for the terminally autistic, the Alt Left is a leftwing, progressive, liberal or Leftist movement. When you Alt Leftist fools attack liberals or the Left, you attack us! No Alt Leftist should ever attack the Left, progressives, liberals or Leftists. Any clown who does this is attacking himself.

 

Anyway, the Facebook Alt Left group is apparently the Left Wing of the Alt Right. There are a number of other folks calling themselves that. Fine. It’s a legitimate wing, one of the founding wings. However, 100% of the LWAR people are supporting Trump. Well, you cannot be in the Alt Left and support Trump. Nor may you support the US Republican Party. Nor may you support any US Republican for office, ever. If you do, you are out on your ass just like that. The #1 enemy of the Alt Left is the conservative movement in the US as embodied in Trump and the Republican Party. SJW gnats are far down on the list.

Until such time as the majority of this wing ceases support for Trump and better yet, soundly denounces him, I am officially renouncing this wing, and I want nothing to do with them until they quit acting up. Sadly, this includes Rabbit, but of all of the people on the LWAR, I have a small place in my heart set aside for him because I believe that in so many ways, his worldview is basically correct.

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The Role of Conservatives and Anarchists/Communists/Far Left Types in the Alt Left

Conservatives of any variety have no place in this movement, in particular American conservatives. Social conservatives or even those brave souls to the Right of the insane Cultural Left who are Left on the important stuff can stay, but those people hardly even exist.

Another group of people who barely exist are Communists, anarchists and Far Left types who would be willing to tolerate the Alt Left. Communists, anarchists, etc. are certainly welcome, but most of them have an extreme hatred of what they call liberals. Well, most people in the Alt Left are liberals. So these liberal-haters are going to be spending most of their time bashing 75% of the movement. What’s the point?

I would also point out that almost 100% of Communists/anarchists/Far Left types have gone over to the Cultural Left, usually in the most extreme way possible. Far Left types are nearly all SJW’s now, and they are some of the worst SJW’s of them all. Most Communists and anarchists who showed up in Alt Left groups starting fighting us right away on all sorts of things. They generally called us fascists, racists, or Nazis within a few days and then took off. So while such folks are surely welcomed, the fact of the matter is that few if any Communists, anarchists or Far Left types will be joining the Alt Left anyway, so all this silly hand-wringing about throwing these people out of the Alt Left is just pointless. You can’t throw out people who are not in the movement in the first place. 

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Who Can Blame Working Class Whites for Voting Republican?

Trash: JASON Y

I think the big issue is the lack of sympathy that middle-class children of the suburbs like myself feel for people that started families too young and left school too soon and took to many drugs because they just were not that bright.

 

I realize that you and to a lesser extent Jason utterly despise the White working class. The venom with which Trash and other White middle class commenters on here talk about White working class people is breathtaking.

I have had liberal Democrats tell me how they love these trade deals. “The only people who oppose them are the blue collars. The union people. Factory workers. Those are the only  people who are against them. Everyone else is for them. Fuck them. Who cares about them? We don’t have any working class in this country anymore anyway, so who cares about these trade deals?” Liberal Democrats also told me that these trade deals are good for California, and how they are good for California because we are such a multicultural state, as if that was a wonderful thing. Most liberal Democrats that I talk to support all of these trade deals, including the TIPP. They’re all DNC Clintonistas.

Most of these people graduated from college. I think a lot of these liberal Democrat Whites in the cities and on the coasts harbor the typical disdain for working class Whites that people like this have always had.

I will say though that considering the way these liberal Democrats talk about working class Whites, good God, is it any wonder they are all voting Republican?

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