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Some Descriptions of the Alt Left on the Net

The Alt Left is just the Alt Right, except they like Mao way more than they like Hitler.

Sort of correct.

The Alt Left are basically Alt Right Communists.

Sort of right.

The Alt Left is the left wing of the Alt Right.

Sort of, yes.

Ultra-brocialists.

Exactly.

I would imagine an “Alt-Left” would go beyond and be above that, putting class struggle over identity politics without using “class above all else” to shut down any debate over racism/sexism/etc. A Left that didn’t think accusing people of racism is enough to dissuade them from voting Trump/UKIP/Le Pen/et al but actively sought ways to persuade those with racist tendencies to not be racist.

A Left that was able to inform the working class that the Alt-Right and Far-Right are bad news for the working class as a class – as well as the well-documented ways they are bad news for various oppressed demographics. Finally, above all else, a Left that rejected the loopy elements of Identity Politics (as commonly found in academia particularly in the US but an issue in the UK as well, especially with the NUS) and injected some much needed rationality into the debate.

Perfect.

Aren’t the Alt Left just social democrats who are critical of immigration? Something like that.

Immaculate.

Seems like there are already people self-describing as the ‘Alt-Left’ in the sense of being the ‘leftwing of the Alt-Right’ — from what I’ve seen, social democratic on economic matters, very hostile when it comes to Identity Politics, feminism, etc., occasionally antisemitic.

Probably one of the best definitions so far.

There’s definitely a return to imagined Christian values/hetero nuclear family at core …you could have an Alt-Left that did that too I guess if you really wanted.

There are Alt Left people pushing exactly this. And anyone into traditional morals or traditional values with Left economics would absolutely be welcome here.

I think the Alt Left is the left wing of the Alt Right. That is how it seems to me anyway. Where the Alt Right embraces fascism, they embrace concepts like Maoism.

That’s about it.

Having said that, I think there’s space for some form of Leftism that is skeptical of both market and state but doesn’t sign up to any of the current far Left ideologies. And has good memes.

Sort of, yes.

Again, it’s just a liberal guy who is a White Nationalist. It’s basically the leftwing of the Alt-Right as the blog itself says or some kind of lite version of Nazbol with emphasis on the Naz and not a whole lot of Bolshevism.

Discussing Rabbit’s page. Nazbol Lite is a pretty good way to describe Rabbit, too.

Class Left is better. Or Classical Libertarians. Or Class Realists.

Classical Libertarians no; Class Left and Class Realists are both perfect. We are “class reductionists.”

Workerists.

Precisely.

We’re back to “we want a UKIP of the left” again.

A UKIP of the Left would not be a bad thing. It would seem to be an Alt Left project.

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Discussion: Are the Riots Helping or Hurting Our Cause?

Discuss.

Ryan England: The antics of antifa and the black-bloc are a concern of mine. My issue with them isn’t so much their ideology – the endgame for the kind of society and world I’d like to see looks very much like something out of anarchist and communist theory. This has been the case for me for decades now. But going out and smashing windows and lighting trashcans on fire isn’t going to result in the democratization of capital or even garner popular support for anti-capitalist ideals.

Leftwing politics have been struggling with a serious image problem for years now. We need to think in terms of how the moderates see us. We have to stop LARPing and beware the tendency to descend into an ideological purity spiral. This has been a concern of mine going back to the 1990’s, and with the rise of the Social Justice Warrior as the Internet’s favorite punching bag, it’s only gotten worse. Shit, the annoyance they’ve caused for so many people recently is a contributing factor to Trump getting in the White House.

The Left fails because it’s an insular little clique with its own lingo and its own little subcultures, and the bulk of the population – the people who most need to know what we have to say – are put off by it. On top of that, people get expelled from Leftist circles for the most frivolous and stupid of deviations from the ideological line – the big Alt-Left groups on Facebook are constantly getting posts from newbies talking about the stupid shit they get banned from anarchist and communist groups for.

We can’t riot. We can’t smash windows. We can’t shut down campus speakers we don’t like. That’s what Milo Yiannopoulos and his ilk want us to do. Did you all know that sales of his books SKYROCKETED since the Berkeley riots? He’s laughing all the way to the bank because of what happened, and many thousands – hundreds of thousands – more people who otherwise wouldn’t have otherwise have become interested in and even sympathetic with Milo’s thought. Goading dumb Leftists into doing dumb stuff is Milo’s whole business model. Why would we want to feed it?

We can’t sucker punch Nazis – not unless it’s clear that they’re out to cause trouble, and they were at one time. I remember Nazi skinhead gangs. They were bad news. You need antifa to deal with that. But socking a goofy civvy in the face, even one who has Nazi views, might make us feel good but also makes us look bad. Maybe not bad in our own books, but bad to the Average Joe whose long-term decision on whether to go Right or Left may ultimately hinge on which faction abstains from needless violence. Notice that the rightwingers stand off or even retreat when the shit hits the fan now and let the Left make asses of themselves? They’ve learned their lessons and are playing a long game here.

If Leftists keep rioting, we’ll burn not just our colleges and neighborhoods to the ground. We’ll burn our futures to the ground as well. We have to stop it. We have to stop LARPing, we have to present ourselves in a calm and rational manner so that our critiques of Trump and the deeper historical materialist ideas that our critiques are rooted in get taken seriously.

I am unsure.  The peaceful protests and even the property-destroying riots and Trumpster-assaulting riots are not increasing Trump’s popularity or decreasing the popularity of our side.

Yes, there are posts on Trump groups by people saying, “I am on your side now!” but most of them we don’t want on our side anyway. I am inclined to say, “Go vote for the Right!” for these people. A lot of these people call themselves moderates, but in the US, that means, “Trump and the Republicans are right 50% of the time.” That’s not moderate.

Since January 26, support for our side has gone up 3 points and support for Trump has fallen by 7 points. So even the violent riots are not hurting us yet. As long as they are not hurting us, I’m not inclined to support the argument that we need to stop this stuff because we are turning people off. In fact, we may even be converting some people. Antifas went to the Women’s March and tries to explain why they were rioting in DC on Jan. 20 (mostly property damage) and they said some of the liberal women were saying, “Well, maybe so. Maybe it needs to come to that.”

A lot of others on the Left, not just Leftists but often regular liberals, are acting nuts now too.

Sarah Silverman called for a military coup to oust Trump.

Kaine just told Americans to “take it to the streets.” This is being framed by the Opposition as a call for street violence.

Police refused to make even one arrest for the Berkeley riots. The mayor apparently gave them a stand-down order. There are photos of hundreds of police standing around doing nothing on the second floor of the Student Union while the Opposition is getting pummeled outside. They let the vandalism go on and not one person was arrested for a lot of serious assaults on Trumpsters. It sure looks like the police are implicitly saying they will not interfere when people smash stuff and beat up the Opposition. Few if any prominent liberals have even criticized the Berkeley riots, and the media is pretty much blacking them out, which is tacit acceptance at least for media cover-up.

I have not seen the Left so activated since the 1970’s. The anarchists themselves say that anarchism has never been so popular.

There are regular calls to assassinate Trump. Madonna practically threatened to blow up the White House. A BLM speaker the other day advocating “Killing people…killing the White House.”#killtrump tags have appeared in the 10,000’s on Twitter. There are so many that I am certain that the SS is hardly investigating them. There are SS agents themselves saying they will not protect him from assassin.

And Trump’s actions by themselves are quite violent. So we are comparing the structural violence of Trump with the street violence of antifa. I must say Trump’s violence is worse. Until it can be shown that these riots are objectively hurting us, I won’t agree with an argument that they are bad tactics due to decreasing our support and driving support to the Opposition.

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Fake News: Lies Galore about the Berkeley Riots

Trash: You summed it up. Young unemployed unkempt young men rioting over obscure British journalists in a minor venue of a “Berserkley”-a college famous for its radicalism anyhow.

Most have grown up in the suburbs their Jewish or WASP parents worked hard to pay for in order to shield them from NAM’s, poor rural white trash, urban squalor or anything rougher than a scraped knee at a soccer game or a slap from their father.

They have never served in the military, spent time in jail, been mugged or even boxed or wrestled in high school.

To the financial-industrial complex they are trivial and unimportant. Some of their parents are even low-rung cogs in that machine itself who have been dedicated slaves to the system and its owner.

Sad to say but they are not taken very seriously.

Some of the protesters are children of lawyers or other cogs in the liberal elite machine.

Others are children of cogs in the financial-industrial complex.

Chaotic amateur violence among blacks is a more serious civil matter. But these folks have never fired a gun in their life, or changed a tire, or oil for a car, or served in the military or done anything but hang around student unions drinking refills of coffee.

As revolutionaries they are amateur-no IRA provisional soldier has taught them the finer points of guerrilla warfare in a Middle Eastern training camp.

1. The rioters were Berkeley students and even professors. Not true.

Students who were at the protests said that the students were protesting peacefully when they were invaded by 150 antifa Black Bloc types. These guys then took the whole demonstration in a whole new direction. He said they were a lot older than students, average age in the late 20’s. People said that no one had ever seen these people before. Some thought they came from outside of Berkeley, possibly from Oakland. There is a large anarchist presence in Oakland that riots fairly regularly.

There was also an argument that Berkeley students are very privileged and would not want to have a serious arrest on their record.

2. The demonstrations/riots were sponsored by George Soros. Not true. Soros simply gives money to some of the liberal organizations that have been organizing demonstrations, such as those at the women’s marches. Soros does not issue any marching orders telling these organizations to stage demonstrations or any of that sort. These decisions are internal to these groups and I doubt if they would need to be convinced to demonstrate under Trump anyway. Of course there is no evidence that Soros is behind the antifa Black Bloc rioters.

3. The demonstrators/rioters are being paid by George Soros. Not true. There is no evidence that Soros has ever given one of these anti-Trump protesters one nickel for going to a demo and he certainly does not pay the rioters to riot.

4. The rioters are liberals. Not true. The demonstrators are a combination of liberals and Leftists. The overwhelming majority of them seem to be engaging in peaceful protest. The rioters are all Leftists. Specifically, they are Far Left antifa Black Bloc anarchists.

5. The rioters are all Communists. Not true. So far there is no evidence whatsoever that any Communists are participating in the riots. ‘Til now it has all been an anarchist faction. I am not even aware of a large Communist presence at the demonstrations. If someone can show me evidence of a large Communist role in the demonstrations, I would like to see it.

6. The “Alt Left” is demonstrating and even rioting. Not true. Nope, the Alt Left has no presence whatsoever in the riots and I am not even aware if any of us are participating in the demos. A lot of us support the demos and a few of us even support the riots, but the Alt Left has not participated in these events in any way so far.

7. SJW’s and the “Alt Left” are the same thing. Not true. This is a lie that crazy Trump supporters made up. We bashed them for their White Supremacist Alt Right movement which is so prominent among Trump supporters, so in order to deflect from that, they made up a lie that the Left, liberals/Democrats/Hillary voters along with Bernie supporters, SJW’s and the Far Left, are all part of something called the “Alt Left.” Problem is, they’re not. They do not identify as Alt Left.

You cannot put people into some artificial made-up category that they themselves reject unless you have some evidence that it applies to them. The only people that are Alt Left are a small group of rather socially conservative Leftists and liberals who support leftwing economics while opposing the Cultural Left. So calling the Cultural Left “Alt Left” is not only untrue; it is in fact a slander. Not only is the Cultural Left not Alt Left, but the Cultural Left is the perfect example of everything the Alt Left is opposed to.

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Berkeley Riots Escalate Dramatically Overnight

Amazing footage shot sometime in the past few hours in the early morning of Thursday, February 2.

Above, footage of the riots occurring while Milo was speaking. A huge crowd is gathered outside the venue. Antifa throw Bricks, rocks and fireworks at the first and second floors of the building, attack police are attacked with bricks and rocks, and dismantle police barricades. Later in the video, on Telegraph Avenue, an antifa assaults a Trump supporter and wrestles him to the ground. Several come to the young man’s aid and pull the two of them apart. The man who was attacked gets up and walks away.

Above, rioters attack pro-Trump people with flying objects and a flagpole. The girl early in the video is hit by a flying object. At :14, an antifa beats a Trump supporter with a flagpole! The Trump supporter somehow gets up and fights back. Later in the video, a bleeding Trump supporter is interviewed.

Incredible video. A journalist interviews a Milo fan wearing a Trump hat. At the end of the short interview, he thanks her and they part. Almost immediately, an Antifa attacks the young woman with pepper spray!

This video appears to be taken on Telegraph Avenue after the campus riot ended. A large group of demonstrators and antifa seem to be attacking and assaulting Trump supporters. The Trump supporters run away but the Antifa chase after them and attack them with poles and iron rods. One Trump supporter lies in the street, possibly knocked out cold. Others are run down and beaten to the ground.

After the riots at UC Berkeley were dispersed, demonstrators made their way to Telegraph Avenue. At some point, more rioting occurred. Ready tellers were smashed at several banks and some banks had most of their windows smashed. Mechanics, Chase, Wells Fargo and Bank of America branches were all vandalized. There were reports that at least four banks had been vandalized.

Above, rioters smash ATM’s in Berkeley.

Several fires were set in Telegraph Avenue. At least two banks were on fire near Center Street and Shattuck Avenue.

Graffiti was painted around. Slogans included “Antifa” and “Liberals get the bullet too.” So you can see these are radical Leftists who do not like your average Democratic Party peaceful Women’s March protesters at all.

A Starbucks was attacked by having its windows smashed out with iron bars. Rioters then went inside and looted the Starbucks. They distributed the looted property to people in the crowd. Robin Hood, I guess.

Most of the crowd appears to be just looking and cheering them on. There were a surprising number of young women in the crowd. Call me old-fashioned, but I would say, “That’s no place for a woman to be.”

The scene in that video has an air of menace. That looks like a very dangerous place to be right now. I would not want to be in that crowd. Perhaps they might turn on you. There is an undertone of anger and menace there that I would not want to be around.

When people get like that, they are like sharks who smell blood. You are in the middle of a dangerous, violent riot with some seriously unhinghed people around and there’s no guarantee that they won’t come after you too. These dangerous scenes are unpredictable. The rioters are getting amped up by destroying things, looting business and perhaps assaulting other people earlier. There’s no guarantee that you will be safe if only you appear to be on their side. It’s sort of like being trapped amidst a gang of criminals, but it’s not nearly that bad. But still, the vibe is the same.

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New Facebook Group – The Original Alt Left

I just created my own Alt Left FacebookThe Original Alt Left – group, not out of vanity but because one of my comrades asked me to form my own group and offered to be the moderator.

The Alt Left has become a brand name now, and most of the wings are getting pretty far away from the original values and manifestos as written by Rabbit, me, Ryan England and a few others.

They are either full of conservatives, spending all their time fighting SJW’s, or worst of all, somewhat less insane versions of SJW’s. A lot of others have taken a very hard line against Left economics and are proposing Keynesianism and social democracy instead. Nothing wrong with that, but the original idea was that the Alt Left should be open to consider all forms of Left economics. We are not anti-Communists! Leave that crap to the Right.

The original Alt Left was also quite a bit more socially conservative that most of the present wings.

In addition, the Alt Left as envisioned by Rabbit and me was to be a place where anything could be discussed and any sacred cows could be gored. As such it was race realist, gender realist or red-pilled, sexual orientation realist, gender identity realist, etc.

Almost all present wings have abandoned race realism as too much of a hot potato, but this group will continue allow discussion of racial differences with a Left viewpoint.

Any of my readers are certainly welcome to join.

Here is a description of the group that I wrote:

This is an Alternative Left group created by me, Robert Lindsay, who, believe it or not, is the person who actually created the Alt Left. However, now that the Alt Left has become a name brand with more wings than a flock of geese, many of these wings have gotten seriously away from the original intentions of me and some of the other early thinkers.

The main way they are diverging is towards conservatism. We are not conservatives! I do not know how many times we need to shout that from the rooftops. We are people of the Left – liberals, progressives, Leftists, socialists, Communists and anarchists. Now granted we rather weird and dissident Leftists, we are nevertheless of the Left. While social conservatives can stay, all other conservatives will be banned on sight. No supporting the US conservative movement, the Republican Party or Trump.

Another way the Alt Left has gotten away is that some wings are simply less insane versions of SJW insanity. We are anti-SJW and anti-PC to the core. Nevertheless, we still support the basic goals of all these liberation movements when they began. Our motto is, “We signed up for Liberation, not insanity!” We are for equal rights but against weirdness, insanity and the general Cultural Left Freakshow.

We are pro-civil rights and against real racism. However, modern anti-racism has gone insane. MLK would not recognize this clown car. 80% of what is called sexism, racism, homophobia or antisemitism is nothing of the sort. It is just real talk by real people. Nevertheless there are ugly racists, nasty antisemites, misogynistic men and women who hate men. These are the real forms of prejudice, and we will oppose those all the way.

A third way the Alt Left has gone out of control is that it spends most of its time attacking SJW’s and says almost nothing about the menace of Trump and modern Republican Party who are imposing a proto-fascist dictatorship on us.

All women are welcome to join! Please do!

Black people are more than welcome as are those of any other race! Come on in!

Sexual minorities are also welcome though they may dislike the tone.

Of course, socially conservative Leftists are more than welcome! You are the whole reason for this movement.

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Alt Left: Renunciation of an Alt Left Wing

I am taking this opportunity to sadly renounce completely a wing of the Alt Left known as the Left Wing of the Alt Right.

Rabbit is probably the best known member of this wing, but he is actually one of the least offensive of them. In a way, I still like Rabbit a lot. His views on race are irrelevant to me, and his racial proposals are rather mild, mostly centering on reducing non-White immigration, which is actually not a bad idea.

True, he is a White nationalist, but he is a pretty mild one. He is more of a White separatist, and he emphatically states that he is opposed to throwing even one non-White out of the country. Instead he would like to find some uninhabited land somewhere to set up his White state. Or maybe make one in space. Or in Antarctica. This is how he thinks. He’s a bit out there you might say, but in a harmless and rather charming way.

Clearly he’s miles better than most all White nationalists, who are a pretty vicious breed.

I think Rabbit’s moderation stems from the fact that Rabbit is actually a liberal. He is a man of the Left. He is leftwing on almost all issues other than race. Other than on race, he’s as liberal or Left as I am. The Left is mostly about compassion and has a strong anti-racist bent. I can’t help but think that being on the Left all this time has affected Rabbit’s views, and this is why he is so mild and reasonable compared to the rest of his ilk. It’s just not like a leftwinger to be a vicious racist. And in fact, there are virtually no seriously racist people on the Left. I do know some racists with leftwing sympathies, but to a man, they all voted for Trump. Every single racist I know voted for Trump, even the ones who are practically socialists or even Communists. Race simply trumps everything else for these guys.

Also, Rabbit is the sole member of the Left Wing of the Alt Right who seems to be having buyer’s remorse over Trump. He stated on this site that the Trump honeymoon is over, and most of Trump’s Cabinet picks were pretty cringey. Of course! Who would find Trump’s Cabinet picks cringeworthy? Why, a liberal or leftwinger of course! Rabbit cannot help but notice that these Cabinet picks are catastrophic from a liberal or left point of view.

Trump is like your ultimate rightwing nightmare, Ronald Reagan on steroids. Trump is a radical rightwinger, and his Administration is already the most rightwing administration in maybe a century. Who was worse? Herbert Hoover? Trump is going to be much worse than his heir Reagan and he is already worse than George W. Bush, who committed election fraud to steal two elections in order to hold the Presidency for eight years.

The fact that Rabbit made these statements makes me feel good for him. His racial views are only a small part of his overall worldview. On everything else, he is quite to the left, in fact, he is even more leftwing than I am on some things. Like a true man of the Left, Rabbit is appalled by almost all of Trump’s nightmarish Cabinet picks.

However, most other folks on the Left Wing of the Alt Right continue to promote Trump. Abel Dean’s Alt Left group on Facebook is full of conservatives and Trump supporters. Even his top posters make posts bashing “progressives.” What? Silly rabbit, the Alt Left is progressive! When you bash progressives, you bash us, you idiot. As I have to reiterate endlessly for the terminally autistic, the Alt Left is a leftwing, progressive, liberal or Leftist movement. When you Alt Leftist fools attack liberals or the Left, you attack us! No Alt Leftist should ever attack the Left, progressives, liberals or Leftists. Any clown who does this is attacking himself.

 

Anyway, the Facebook Alt Left group is apparently the Left Wing of the Alt Right. There are a number of other folks calling themselves that. Fine. It’s a legitimate wing, one of the founding wings. However, 100% of the LWAR people are supporting Trump. Well, you cannot be in the Alt Left and support Trump. Nor may you support the US Republican Party. Nor may you support any US Republican for office, ever. If you do, you are out on your ass just like that. The #1 enemy of the Alt Left is the conservative movement in the US as embodied in Trump and the Republican Party. SJW gnats are far down on the list.

Until such time as the majority of this wing ceases support for Trump and better yet, soundly denounces him, I am officially renouncing this wing, and I want nothing to do with them until they quit acting up. Sadly, this includes Rabbit, but of all of the people on the LWAR, I have a small place in my heart set aside for him because I believe that in so many ways, his worldview is basically correct.

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The Role of Conservatives and Anarchists/Communists/Far Left Types in the Alt Left

Conservatives of any variety have no place in this movement, in particular American conservatives. Social conservatives or even those brave souls to the Right of the insane Cultural Left who are Left on the important stuff can stay, but those people hardly even exist.

Another group of people who barely exist are Communists, anarchists and Far Left types who would be willing to tolerate the Alt Left. Communists, anarchists, etc. are certainly welcome, but most of them have an extreme hatred of what they call liberals. Well, most people in the Alt Left are liberals. So these liberal-haters are going to be spending most of their time bashing 75% of the movement. What’s the point?

I would also point out that almost 100% of Communists/anarchists/Far Left types have gone over to the Cultural Left, usually in the most extreme way possible. Far Left types are nearly all SJW’s now, and they are some of the worst SJW’s of them all. Most Communists and anarchists who showed up in Alt Left groups starting fighting us right away on all sorts of things. They generally called us fascists, racists, or Nazis within a few days and then took off. So while such folks are surely welcomed, the fact of the matter is that few if any Communists, anarchists or Far Left types will be joining the Alt Left anyway, so all this silly hand-wringing about throwing these people out of the Alt Left is just pointless. You can’t throw out people who are not in the movement in the first place. 

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Who Can Blame Working Class Whites for Voting Republican?

Trash: JASON Y

I think the big issue is the lack of sympathy that middle-class children of the suburbs like myself feel for people that started families too young and left school too soon and took to many drugs because they just were not that bright.

 

I realize that you and to a lesser extent Jason utterly despise the White working class. The venom with which Trash and other White middle class commenters on here talk about White working class people is breathtaking.

I have had liberal Democrats tell me how they love these trade deals. “The only people who oppose them are the blue collars. The union people. Factory workers. Those are the only  people who are against them. Everyone else is for them. Fuck them. Who cares about them? We don’t have any working class in this country anymore anyway, so who cares about these trade deals?” Liberal Democrats also told me that these trade deals are good for California, and how they are good for California because we are such a multicultural state, as if that was a wonderful thing. Most liberal Democrats that I talk to support all of these trade deals, including the TIPP. They’re all DNC Clintonistas.

Most of these people graduated from college. I think a lot of these liberal Democrat Whites in the cities and on the coasts harbor the typical disdain for working class Whites that people like this have always had.

I will say though that considering the way these liberal Democrats talk about working class Whites, good God, is it any wonder they are all voting Republican?

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A Principal Tenet of the Alt Left – Hostility to Conservatism

Abel Dean’s Alt Left group on Facebook is absolutely swarming with Trump supporters. They did a recent poll on Trump, and I was the only person in the group opposed to him. Trump is a either a conservative, a reactionary, a rightwing extremist or a rightwing populist, however you look at him. Rightwing populism is a stepping stone to fascism. You keep going rightwing from rightwing populism and you get fascism.

See that “left” in the Alt Left? It’s not there for show. We really and truly are liberals, Leftists, socialists, Keynesians, and social democrats, and we are even open to any anarchists or Communists who wish to join us. One thing we are not and will never be is conservatives.

Why in the Hell is Abel Dean’s “Alt Left” group swarming with Trump supporters? Trump is an ultra-rightwing reactionary, a rightwing populist. Rightwing populism is one step away from fascism.

One of the defining characteristics of the early Alt Left was hostility to conservatism. We are not conservatives! This was always a part of my worldview, but it took the important Alt Left thinker Ryan England to figure it out. In fact, he posited Anti-Conservatism as one of the three principal defining tenets of the Alt Left.

The ideal Alt Left person is someone who would never vote conservative or Republican even if you put a gun to their head. I am absolutely flabbergasted by all these “Left” people who think there is anything left whatsoever about this radical rightwing psycho Trump. Alt Lefties are dissident liberals and Leftists.

In the US, we came out the Democratic Party, Green Party or even further left than that. I still vote Democrat and I read Daily Kos on a regular basis. Why? Because those are my people.

Sure, they’ve gone astray somewhat, but SJWism is actually not a large part of what they write about on there. I do not think SJWism is a big movement in the Democratic Party. In parties and groups further left, of course it is. My observation is that it is Western Leftists like the Greens along with Communists and anarchists who are the wildest SJW’s of them all. In fact, PC and SJWism was birthed in US universities principally by leftwing professors, quite a few of whom had at least something of Marxist background. This movement came out of the Far Left in US universities. And any new SJW ideas or concepts seem to be coming out of the Campus Left to this very day. US universities are SJW Ground Zero.

Sure the Alt Left is not happy with the Cultural Left, but that’s not the whole Left. Our principal enemies are the conservatives, especially the Republican Party. Why all these conservatives regard themselves as Alt “Left” or left anything on Earth, I will never understand.

Now granted, this is just my view of the Alt Left, and other wings may beg to differ. In particular, the Right Wing of the Alt Left has gone all in for Trump, and that is one reason why I am dissociating myself with them. I will formally and officially renounce them in an upcoming post. They are not part of my version of the Alt Left. They can come back in the Alt Left when they decide to quit supporting Trump and Republicans, which is probably never. And if it’s never,  they are gone from my Alt Left forever.

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The AltLeft “Tea Party,” by Rabbit

The AltLeft “Tea Party”

Very nice new article about the Alt Left from Rabbit. I actually still like Rabbit. He is apparently not happy at with Trump. He described most of Trump’s Cabinet picks as “cringey” which is at the very least how I feel about them. Actually to me they are more like “”homicidal rage-inducing” but at this point, that’s a bit of a quibble. Rabbit is on the same page with all the rest of the Left on Trumpism except on the broad race, immigration and possibly trade policy stuff. But he already seems to be selling out the trade stuff horrendously. He’s selling out the immigration stuff too. Too bad the Mexicans aren’t going to pay for the wall. You and me are! Out of our pockets into the mitts of one of one of Trump’s billionaire pals via a rigged no-bid contract. Reverse Robin Hood again, but Reverse Robin Hood is all Trumpism is about anyway. Think about it. Real hard now.

and I don’t see how he could be given Rabbit’s base political beliefs. A lot of the rest of the left wing of the Alt Right has gone over to Trumpism, and to me, that’s all I need to sever ties with them once and for all.

The thing about Rabbit is the same thing that everyone gets wrong about the Alt Left. Rabbit is a Leftist, dammit. He really is a leftwinger. He’s a man of the Left. So many people just cannot wrap their heads around that. If you look at his views across the board, Rabbit is leftwing on just about everything but race and the Cultural Left, and even on the Cultural Left, he is with them on a lot more things than I am. Rabbit holds traditional leftwing notions on sexual orientation, gender identity, feminism, etc. He’s not a social conservative at all. In fact, he is to the left of me on a lot of that stuff. On the other hand, he seems personally red-pilled and he spent a lot of time in the Manosphere and the MGTOW movement before he drifted into the Alt Left.

If he’s leftwing on about everything but race and PC Culture, how the hell is he a rightwinger? I don’t see how missing one check box on the leftwing list of beliefs throws you out of the Left. Suppose we say Rabbit cannot be on the Left due to his views on race (a common notion). In fact, we say, his racial views make him a rightwinger no matter what else gets thrown into the mix. Ok, fine, cast him out.

He’s back over on the Right now. Rabbit gets handed the rightwing checklist. Whereas with the Left he failed to check one box, with the Right he fails to check 95% of the boxes. And somehow he’s rightwing? Forget it. Getting beyond left and right is said to be a well known trope of fascism, but so what? Maybe we do need to get beyond left and right and maybe we don’t have to be fascists to do that. In fact, the Alt Left is precisely all about getting beyond Left and Right to some extent, although we are still mostly on the Left. There’s nothing inherently wrong with heterogeneous politics, and this represents your average person’s views anyway. Homogeneous politics is synonymous with ideologues, and who needs them. Give me a sui generis heterogeneous political mix versus any sort of ideologue any day of the week.

Whatever you think of his stand on race, I believe that Rabbit is a very important thinker in our movement, and besides, let’s get real, race is only part of the package Rabbit is selling. You can still buy a custom package minus the race part. Furthermore, he is a superior chronicler and opinion-maker in our movement as a whole, and Rabbit doesn’t care if you don’t agree

It’s not often discussed, but I also like his media criticism, most of which centers around movie reviews. He has a quirky sense there too, focusing on films from the 1970’s. His architectural musings are also quite good, though I don’t know much about the subject. And there’s something about a guy who unironically lionizes Charles Manson

I also very much like his prose and also a lot of his quirky worldview. I am trained as an editor and Rabbit’s prose is what we call “clean copy.” You needn’t mark it up at all, and he’s saying it better than you the editor could anyway. The rules of English punctuation are quite arcane, and 95% of Americans screw them up. Rabbit’s pretty much got them down. You would think he was a J-major.

But as far as a writer goes, he is one of the finest writers in our movement. He’s a great writer! He should be published, and in fact, I believe he is just now as he deserves to be. As a writer, most of what I read is not really great writing. Only maybe 10% of the time do you read prose on the Net that truly sings right off the page. I don’t know if he’s better than I am, but it’s awful close. It’s at least a tossup, and that’s a compliment, as I dislike most other writers.

As long as he keeps away from racial slurs, his prose is worth it for the political theory and just for the pure aesthetic pleasure of it.

A lot of people want to throw Rabbit out of the movement. Funny because he just about co-founded it. Thing is, Rabbit ain’t going anywhere, nor should he. He’s staying right where he is whether we like it or not. Rabbit is stuck with the Alt Left, and we are stuck with him. We are stuck onto each other like damned remoras. And perhaps after all that is just as it should be.
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I know what you’re thinking, but no, I don’t mean “Tea Party” in the sense of the happy meal conservative movement that emerged in the early part of the Obama administration. Nor am I referring to anything relating to the Boston Tea Party or the American revolution.

I’m talking about the AltLeft and how for me it has come to resemble the tea party in Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland (1972 version of course!) This film was always on HBO in the mid 1980s, even though it came out in the early 70s. I believe the reason they began to re-air it in the 80s was because the star, Fiona Fullerton, had grown up and re-emerged as a Bond girl in “A View to a Kill,” which came out in 1985.

Anyway, when I first got involved with the AltLeft about a year and a half ago, in my mind it was always meant to augment the AltRight, not outright oppose it. It was a way to view and examine the affects of multiculturalism and political correctness from a cultural and economically left lens as well as from a secular and futurist perspective rather than the radical traditionalist, socially conservative one that dominates rightwing circles. In other words, recognizing the implicit Whiteness that underpins the identities of progressive cities like Seattle or Portland, and asserting that it must become explicit to some degree in order for those places to maintain their culture, aesthetic and quality of life.

It was to put forth the idea that someone can be pro-White without the albatross of traditionally conservative culture, pre-modern aesthetics, capitalist economics, or widely accepted Republican historical dogma (“the 60s were bad,” “Vietnam draft dodgers were traitors,” “McCarthy was right,” “I hate modern architecture,” etc.)

If you hang around rightwing groups for any period of time, you’ll find they have an assumed historical narrative that informs many of their beliefs. I say “assumed,” because they just take it for granted that everyone who agrees with them one issue such as race also accepts their historical framing of a wide range of other issues such as economic systems, religious beliefs, or aesthetic preferences (just as someone on the “Left” might assume that anyone who supports trans rights and raising the minimum wage automatically accepts the idea that racial diversity is always a good thing.) Not everyone buys the package deal.

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Unfortunately, the AltLeft has instead attracted a wide range of bizarre characters, each with their own zany ideas about what the AltLeft should represent. Many of them never read any of the original manifestos that I or Robert Lindsay or anyone else wrote or bothered to do any research. They just started using the term like they’d started a new band without checking to see if some other band was already using the name. That would be understandable if this were the pre-Internet days, but it seriously only takes like two seconds to Google. Others actually did thoroughly read this site and somehow managed to come to the conclusion their peculiar ideology was compatible with mine, despite it being a complete mystery to me what exactly was the point of agreement.

The AltLeft has come to attract all kinds of eccentric personalities, each one adhering to their own pet belief system. Worse than that, many have joined the AltLeft for the purpose of militantly opposing the AltRight, which is something I never intended to do (hence the reason I still use the tagline “the left wing of the AltRight.”) Though I disagree with him on a few ideological points…I happen to support Richard Spencer, and I have defended him numerous times when certain squeamish (and often prudish) factions as well as a few prominent figures of the AltRight unsuccessfully tried to throw him under the bus.

So when I interact with other people in the incoherent “movement” known as the AltLeft, it feels a lot like the sitting down at the tea party in Alice in Wonderland. It’s a group of outlandish castouts, contrarians, and vagabonds that have little in creatural commonality other than their politically idiosyncratic tendencies and behavioral eccentricities. Part of me finds this demoralizing, wondering why I ever bothered going down this rabbit hole and whether I can just climb out and forget the whole adventure. Yet the other part of me just embraces the gathering of this zany cast of characters for the sheer chaos that they have unleashed as we bounce off-the-wall ideas past each other and revel at the sight confounded normies that stumble into our world.

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