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“Child Porn” (Whatever the Hell That Means), Teen Sexting and Pic/Video Trading and Other Moral Panics, Mass Hysterias, Emotional Derangements and General Idiocies

Contrary to what my enemies say about me, I will take a pretty hard line below. The real deal (adults and kids 12-below child porn) needs to be kept the Hell off the Net. People making that crap, putting it up on the Net, or collecting it on their drives can go down hard for all I care. Throw the book at ’em. On the other hand, the issue is somewhat more nuanced than that, and it brings up some extremely difficult questions in legal theory and moral philosophy and general common sense.

The laws against child pornography are correct in that it ought to be illegal put that stuff up on the Net.

I have a hard time seeing how it is illegal to look at the stuff. I mean, you are cruising around the Net and BAM there’s some child porn on your screen. Or you are pic trading porn in a chatroom, and all of a sudden the guy you are trading with sends you child porn BAM! Even if you had no idea the guy was going to send you that crap, and you deleted it within seconds of it hitting your screen, you still committed a felony. Isn’t that crap?

Suppose you are cruising along the Chans and BAM there’s some child porn up on the Chan. OK what exactly are you supposed to do? Leave the page? Stay on the page? It doesn’t matter! Because BAM as soon as that crap hit your screen, you committed a felony! Any way to go back and uncommit the felony? Nope! You’re going down forever more unless you can clean your drive real well. See what crap that is?

I also have a problem with eyeball crimes. This is the only crime on Earth where you can to go prison for many years for “illegal looking.” What do you mean illegal looking? What the Hell kind of crime is that? You can look at anything else on Earth, videos of men being slowly tortured to death by serial killers, Islamists sawing people’s heads off and torturing them to death in every way imaginable, the worst crime scenes  imaginable… everything on God’s Green Earth is legal for your eyeballs.

Except for this CP crap. The argument goes that this kid was injured or harmed in the making of that porn. Indeed that’s probably the case. But then the argument goes that by the fact that your eyeballs grazed that photo of that kid being harmed, you horribly harmed that poor child again by looking at them with your eyeballs! Really?! Your eyes hurt that kid? Every time someone looks at that pic, that kid gets horribly injured? How? Where’s the injury? Is it invisible? Can we measure it?

For this to be true, you would have to prove that that kid was aware every time someone looked at the CP photo of them. So if the photo gets looked at 100 times that day, somehow through some psychic process that kid gets a devastatingly injurious brain zap every time? The whole argument behind this theory is sheer idiocy, and it defies all logic and sense. It’s not a rational argument in any possible universe.

You see where they say Mr. X was arrested for “downloading” child porn. For a long time, I thought these guys deserved it. I mean “downloading” means saving it to your drive in a folder, right? Once you do that, you’re possessing it, right? I have no problem with the possession of CP being illegal. You shouldn’t be collecting that crap on your drive. And yes, all you perverts collecting that crap is of course what drives the market for it in the first place. It’s illegal to possess all sorts of things. There are many such laws saying we may not possess this or that. That’s grounded in sanity, logic and legal precedent.

But recently I realized that downloading CP doesn’t mean downloading at all necessarily. It’s often a reference to the horrific crime of “illegal looking with illegal eyeballs.” I guess your eyeballs have to go to prison for the illegal looking charges? Just by the fact that you happened upon that child porn, perhaps out of complete ignorance and innocence, you are guilty of “downloading child porn.” Isn’t that stupid? It’s “downloading” because your browser downloads a copy of everything you see on the Net to the browser cache. Now I suppose if you clean your drive thoroughly, you can get rid of everything in your browser cache, but still, what the Hell kind of retarded crime is that? Illegal looking? WTF!

Child pornography is photos and videos of adults having sex with children age 12-under. I don’t think pornographic photos and videos of teenagers having sex with anyone is child porn. It’s just not. I don’t know what the Hell it is, but it sure as Hell ain’t “kiddie porn.”

Teenagers of both sexes, boys and girls, are constantly taking nudes and pornographic photos and maybe even videos of themselves and trading them around with other teens. I can tell you for certain that there is a vast amount of this going on, at least on Twitter. How do I know? Because I know about this stuff. They form private pic and video trading groups, (usually all underage teenage girls mostly 15-17) and they trade pics of each other, sext each other, etc.

Usually the groups are girls under 18 only, no boys allowed. Often bisexual girls are especially encouraged to join. So underage teenage girls are taking a vast amount of pornographic photos and maybe videos of themselves and maybe others and trading them all around to fellow underage teens. It’s literally an epidemic. And according to the law, it’s all child porn. Every one of those girls taking those photos and videos is “producing/manufacturing child pornography.” If she trades the stuff with her girlfriend? Now she’s “distributing child pornography.” Huge numbers of teenagers of both sexes are being arrested for manufacture, distribution and possession of child pornography. This insanity is absolutely outrageous. It shows just how insane the Pig State really is. It’s not even a Police State – it’s actually a Pig State.

So what is to be done? I have no idea. We should leave these kids alone with their pics, though. If they put them up on the Net, that’s not OK, but from what I can tell, girls are hardly putting any porn pics of themselves up on the Net. It’s all going back and forth with messaging and emails. Almost nothing is going up on any webpage. I think we should make it illegal for these teenagers to put this teen porn up on the Net. We have to ban that. And we need to keep the under 18 for porn law in. You know why?

This is why:

Now suppose we said that in Kentucky the age of consent is 16, so you can have sex with any legal person you want to at that age, 13-93? There are laws like this all over the land. It’s perfectly legal for any adult man to have sex with a 16 year old girl in half the states in the US, which is fine. But if it’s legal for her to have sex, why isn’t it legal for her to take a nude pic of herself? So now you have a tidal wave of cases of the Pig State allowing a 20 year old and a 16 year old to have sex with each other, but as soon as one takes a nude of themselves or the other and gives it to the other one, they’ve manufactured and distributed child porn, and they have to go to prison for 10 years! Idiocy!

So this 20 year old man can have sex with this 16 year old girl 10 times a day for years if he wants to, but as soon as these star crossed lovers who are screwing each other’s brains out every day take a nude of one or the other, they’re child pornographers and they are going to prison for 10 years! What kind of stupid crap is that!?

I do not know what to do about this. I suppose if they are over the age of consent, they can take pics of each other all they want and pass them around at least to one another in privacy and to other minors. I’m leery about this stuff being passed around willy nilly to adults though. They can’t put them up on the Net because it’s illegal material, and we don’t want that junk on the Net.

But why not? Indeed, let us look at a fascinating argument:

A very good argument is that if a girl can consent to sex at 16, why can’t she consent to taking porn photos and videos of herself and put them up on the Web? Or allow other people to film her? Actually it sounds logical. If you’re old enough to screw, of course you’re old enough to do porn. At the very least, you ought to be able to take pictures of your own self and put them up on the Net. I have no problem with this in theory.

But here is the problem. Pornographers are some of the most low down, sleaziest, slimiest men (and almost all are men) on the planet. They’re just about criminals, except what they are doing is legal. Most are what I would call legal criminals. The rates of Axis 2 Cluster B disorders is very high among pornographers. Narcissistic Personality Disorder and especially sociopathy and psychopathy are everywhere in that industry. It’s Ground Zero for male controlled psychopaths. Most pornographers are simply awful people.

Now here’s the problem. Say in these states where the AOC is 16 or 17, we allow girls that age to consent to doing porn. I agree it’s rational and reasonable. But here’s what is going to happen. Very soon after you legalize legally sexually mature girls age 16 and 17 to do porn, the porn studios are going to be flooded with teenage girls wanting to do porn. It’s just going to happen. I assure you it will. If they can’t find them here in the US, they will readily find them in Russia, Romania, Ukraine, Bulgaria, and places like that.

Because the porn industry is constantly pushing the envelope and promoting weirder, kinkier and sicker stuff in a race to the bottom, the 16 and 17 year old girls doing porn will soon be flooded all across the net. There’s already a massive market for the “Barely 18” market, in which 18-20 year old girls do porn for the “young girls” market. You can call men who would look at those 16 and 17 year old girls doing porn sick fucks all you want, but I assure you that in the US alone, you will have millions of men looking at that 16 and 17 year old girl porn.

Do we want this? No, we do not want this! We cannot allow girls under 18 to make porn because of the scenario above. I don’t want to open up my browser and see 10 ads for 16  year old girls doing hardcore porn. Just forget it.

As far as CP – the real deal – adults and kids 12 and under – goes:

  • Of course it needs to be illegal to put that crap up on the Net.
  • It has to be illegal to make it.
  • It has to be illegal to trade it back and forth by messaging or emails.
  • People who collect that crap in folders on their drives can go down hard for all I care.

But illegal looking? Illegal eyeballs? That’s just weird. How do you justify putting some poor schmuck in prison for 10 years because of some image that he innocently stumbled on and flashed before his eyes? The whole idea of “illegal looking” at anything on Earth being a crime, much less a serious felony, sounds completely bizarre. Like I said, name one other thing on God’s Green Earth that it is illegal to look at?

Let the teenagers take their porn pics and whatnot of themselves and each other and trade them around in strict private out of the view of everyone else. If it’s perfectly legal for two humans to engage in any sex act they wish with each other, for God’s sake, of course they can take photos of each other doing it or just posing with nothing on. But I don’t want to see that crap being passed all around town. If you are a grown adult, you should not be looking at nudes and porns of underage girls. The exception would be if you are in a legal sexual relationship with her. But passing them all around town? We need to discourage that somehow.

There is zero sense, logic, sanity or rational thinking operating on any argument about this stuff. 100% of the people talking about this stuff are emotionally deranged. They are trying to think about this, but they are emotionally crazed so they can’t think about it logically. If you are in an emotionally deranged state of mind, you can’t make any rational decision about anything. Reasonable thinking only occurs when people calm down and stop thinking emotionally.

Emotional thinking never does any good. All it ever does is give you the wrong answer.

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PUA/Game: The Basic Rules of the Boy’s Club for Men

Fraser Crest: Wow, that was homophobic and bigoted. Anytime we make sweeping generalizations about any group of people, especially a minority group that has been oppressed and persecuted by a majority, you run the risk of being “phobic”. It’s stereotyping, it isn’t just, and it isn’t the truth.

So, if that person was in Hollywood and therefore knows ALL about gay people; then, I must be an expert on Orthodox Jews, Russian Jews, Rock-n-Rollers, actors and actresses, singers and musicians, bla, bla, bla, because I lived in and around Hollywood for nearly 30 years.

I had very masculine friends, muscular, confident, and genuinely good people; one friend who liked to do drag once in a while (he couldn’t wear anything too tight because he wouldn’t be able to conceal that huge bulge he had), and another friend who performed in a drag acting troupe that did performances on the weekends in Silverlake with hilarious characters, musical numbers, and a storyline that progressed each week. He was talented and funny, and I enjoyed going to see the shows and usually sat with his partner (a very butch, Latin former gang member who had been married three times and had three grandchildren).

My best friend was from Brazil and working on his PhD at USC (he now teaches back home in Brazil at Universidade de Sao Paulo, Brazil, and his mother is a well-known gay rights activist), and he didn’t fit into a gay stereotype.

As for myself, I lived near the Guitar Center and a theater bookstore – for many years I had long hair, and people asked what band I was in, and one time I was offered a spot in a band (because they liked my look) if I could play bass guitar – I can’t.

When I cut all my hair off, went really short and worked out at the gym – a girl who worked there told me her husband (a comedian) had written a 3-minute performance piece about ME. It was called “The Refreshingly Gay Man” – because I was neither feminine nor hyper-masculine as if trying to conceal something. I was just me. Her husband told me that when you wake up in the morning and open a window and take in a deep breath and stretch — he said that’s what I am – refreshingly gay.

After 9-11 I realized I didn’t know very much about Muslims at all, and I started to read…I hated what I was reading. So, I got a book that’s published by Muslims about their religion…I hated that too. So, I got a book by a lesbian who was raised Muslim and her search to find resolution and peace…didn’t help.

I so desperately did not want to be a bigot, and have bad feelings about a billion + people, but I was discouraged…until one day I discovered an incredibly beautiful singer who sings in Arabic. I have listened to her music for many years now, and I can sing along with quite a few songs. Music is a powerful healer. But she just helped me realize what I already knew — that there are good and bad people in every group…and truthfully, there was a big, abusive religion that forced conversions, tortured, murdered, or enslaved some who wouldn’t convert; and persecuted Jews, calling them “Christ killers”.

That little old religion is still based in Rome. Plus, there is a lot of violence and gross stuff in the Bible so stop pointing out crap from the Quran and think you just exposed all of those Muslims… because there are really decent, caring, loving, peaceful people who happen to follow their religion as they understand it to be or should be.

I also have a friend whose mother turned him into the authorities for being gay – he was only 23 or 24 — he had to appear before Islamic Court (three times) in Tehran. They took everything from him (job, bank account, car, furnishings), issued an order for execution and banned him from travel. Two friends got him out of Iran, risking prison if caught. He was exiled in Turkey for approximately 2 years before being accepted as a refugee to the U.S.

When I heard his story, I heard the words very clearly in my heart say, “I have to do everything I can to help him”. He calls me “dad” or “papa” now, I love that kid, and I’m so proud of him. I am still shaken by what he went through, but I am humbled that he is my “adopted son”.

No, all gay people are not the same.

Although I did joke in the 80’s that some gay men, when they get drunk, turn into black women. But I’m gay. I’m allowed a joke with my friends.

What you are reading up there is the way most straight men really, really feel about gay men. I am straight, and I have been around straight men my whole life. I know what my people are like. I think most straight men are homophobic on some level.

The Rules of the Boys’ Club

These are the rules for masculine straight society or for the Boy’s Club for Men that most such men are members of. Being a Club member means you are one of the boys or one of the guys.

1. NO GAY SHIT. ALSO NO FAGS (SORRY FOR THE LANGUAGE). Not even .00001% gay shit allowed, and no, none of them, no fags, don’t even come around, they’re not members, and they need to somewhere else with their own kind or their straight women friends. No hard feelings, but they are not wanted here. It’s a private club after all.

Gay shit? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.  Don’t even think about it! Do it, and you’re gone. Just like that. You are banished. You can’t even talk about it. If you do, you are suspected of being gay right there. It’s considered such an abomination that you never even bring it up. If you have some feelings like that, we get it, a lot of straight men do. But you really need to STFU about it, and keep it to yourself, dammit.

This is actually the number one rule of the Club, and in a sense it even supersedes masculinity, but not by much. Generally the two are part of a package, one package. Masculine = homophobic and vice versa. Like peanut butter and jelly, they just go together. If you are wimpy but homophobic, well, “At least you’re not a fag” is the attitude. We would tolerate you a bit more because although you are pitiful, at least you are not a menace, an outrage, or an abomination.

This does not necessarily boil down to hating gay men, though sadly it often does. A lot of Club members nowadays are more accepting and tolerant and excuse gay men from Club rules.

They’re not part of our Club, they are not welcome here anyway, and they are seen as outside of our society. They’re over there. Because they are not Club members, the rules do not apply to them. More Club members nowadays think that gay men can’t help it, and we accept them on a somewhat pity basis on the grounds that they can’t help it, and hating them would be like punching someone for being lefthanded. He couldn’t help his handedness. So gay men are exempted from the fierce homophobic rules of the Club. They can act as effeminate and faggy as they wish. It’s weird as Hell, but whatever. Maybe they can’t help that either. Maybe that’s part of getting wired up gay. We give them the benefit of the doubt. Besides, simpatico is a major Club rule and even applies to people outside the Club. See below.

2. BE MASCULINE, DAMMIT. Yep, not real masculine, but just masculine enough. This is called, “Walking the walk, and talking the talk.” If you are not at least masculine or macho enough, get out. You’re not part of our Club. The attitude is “Go over there with the women and fags or your wimpy, pathetic, pussyboy friends.” We don’t even like wimpy and seriously unmasculine, weak men. They’re pitiful and a bit disgusting, and they are not wanted in our circles. Act like a man, dammit! What are you, a girl? This is a minimum requirement for true Club membership, and it goes right along with Rule 1.

3. BE HETEROSEXUAL. A very masculine man who was seriously homophobic and not gay at all but nevertheless did not like women for some reason would still be accepted in the Club because he fulfills Rules 1 and 2, which are mandatory. People would think he was weird, but whatever. So Rule 3 is not mandatory, but most Club men definitely fill it anyway. He gets Club membership on a waiver basis because he fulfills Rules 1 and 2. We rarely see truly asexual men in the Club though. If you truly want full membership, you gotta like pussy. You get massive bonus points once we figure out that you are a regular,  normal, heterosexual, high-sex-drive pussyhound who is crazy about women or at least crazy about having sex with them. You don’t have to be having sex with them, but you get huge bonus points for aggressively wanting to do so.

4. GET LAID. This is actually the least important one. I have known seriously masculine, homophobic, apparently heterosexual men who could not get laid with God’s help. One was an extremely scary guy with a car repair place who wore leather all the time and always looked mean and angry.

He was accepted in the Club because he was a badass, but a lot of men did not want to deal with him because he was “just too full of hate.” Yes, you must be homophobic and masculine, being straight helps and you don’t really have to get laid, but if you are too mean and aggressive, you are “psycho,” and even most macho guys think you have gone overboard. You are seen as giving off bad vibes and living in a world of meanness and hate. Believe it or not, most Club men dislike the idea of living in a world of meanness and hate. Most Club men are actually trying to relax, not be angry or hate people, and be halfway nice most of the time. It’s called “being cool.” Even Mexican men are like this. Their version of it is called “simpatico.” and Mexican men are profoundly masculine, yet simpatico is nevertheless a  part of the machismo.

You don’t even have to get laid much. If other men see you for years without a woman, they would still accept you if you fulfill Rules 1-3. Extra bonus points if you at l least talk loudly and aggressively about women and sex with them in a lascivious, high-sex-drive sort of way. We know you’re OK inside, you’re just having a spell of bad luck, and almost all Club men have been through dry spells anyway. Most Club men know that getting women as a single man is not that easy even nowadays. Women don’t give it up for free easily.

Why do you think there is a Whore Market? And a pricey Whore Market at that. If women were easily giving it up for free all the time, the Whore Market would collapse. The fact that there is a Whore Market shows that women are actually operating what boils down to a Pussy Cartel which engages is mass price-fixing, monopoly tactics, and a lot of dirty tricks all to keep the price of sex and access to women’s bodies as high as possible. The Pussy Cartel runs something called the Pussy Market. The Pussy Market and the Whore Market are two different things. I am not sure how they relate, but the Whore Market very much needs the Pussy Cartel to limit access to sex so as to drive up the prices of the Whore Market’s product.

This Cartel the reason for the Jailbait Mass Hysteria. Women are terrified that if more JB’s become legal, a lot of men will choose boppers over real women, and the Pussy Market will crash. It’s all about keeping the price high. That’s what is behind all the outrage. Pure fear.

It’s the same reason that feminists are making desperate moves to try to keep men from getting mail order or overseas brides. Too much really scary competition, and more fear of a Market Collapse. A market on which prices are artificially inflated.

Why do you think so many men jump right into marriage? They get married to have lots of regular sex! Men don’t marry for love. That’s just some crap they tell their girlfriends and wives to keep them around. They marry for sex! Now some love might come along as side order, yes, but the sex is always the main course. Women will never figure this out, and they will continue to laughably think men marry for love. Nope!

So Club men are sympathetic to a homophobic, masculine, straight man who’s not having any luck. Almost all men in the Club have some low-level sexism and think women are a great big, huge, pain the ass, at times infuriating, endless headache of a problem. Sort of like a car that you really love, but it’s always in the shop.

It sounds course and crude, but most men use women as a place, product or even object to fulfill their sexual needs. Women are like sexual gas stations where you fill up your human body car. Yes, there is sometimes fondness, kindness, warmth, tenderness, and niceness at the same time. Indeed, pleasantries are often exchanged in the process, but the Sexual Pit Stop is their basic role. Some love might go along with this basic function, but that is actually peripheral. Probably no woman on Earth will ever accept this, but it’s the way it is, like it or not.

But if Club members see that guy with a woman over at his place or spending the night  there even one time, their opinion of him goes way up, sky high, and every Club member around wants to come up to him and give him five. He was a member of the Club before, but now he’s really a member. This means he is now what is called officially “a regular guy.” You become a regular guy by getting laid.

If you do very well with women and are a player, you are granted Hero status in the Club. You’re not even a Club member anymore. Now you are a super-member.

You are like a general who is covered with medals. Club men will praise you, buy you meals, etc. They will walk up to you and slap you on the back. Other men in the Club will walk up him with a “Can I have your autograph?” attitude. They will even put their arm around himyou, but it’s not seen as gay because you are a macho hero player, and everyone knows you’re not gay. Ordinarily, you have to be very careful getting physical with other men in the Club because the homophobia is so off the charts, but exceptions are made for the Player. He’s the Superstar. He’s The Man. The rules don’t apply as far as he goes.

But mostly the attitude in the Club towards Player is that he is simply hilarious. Everyone in the Club thinks it is absolutely hilarious how this guy gets so many women. The reason why he is hilarious and why he is a superstar hero is because it is actually very hard to be a real bigtime player. Only 6% of straight men have sex with over 100 females in their lives, and probably 95% want to. Or maybe it’s 100%.

Women will never figure this out either, and most women solipsistically think getting laid is utterly trivial for men. Women can get sex anytime they want, and women are solipsists by nature, so they think if they can do it, men can do it too.

Same thing with marriage. Women usually marry for love, and since women are solipsists, they think if women marry for love, then men must too.

Women just don’t get what it’s like to be a man.

I will say though that once a woman gets to her 40’s and 50’s, a lot of them have pretty much figured us out at least in part, and they accept us for being the way we are, mostly because they figure we can’t change, we are hopeless, and we are just doing what comes naturally. A lot of old women also understand men well too. But they still don’t completely get us. I am not sure if one woman has ever figured out men. Sometimes I wonder.

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One Problem with Pedophile Mass Hysteria: It’s Based on Magical Thinking, an Irrational Thought Process

Chase Howard: There’s nothing wrong with pedophilia? What?

There’s nothing wrong with the fact that someone got wired up as a pedophile against their will. I would go so far as to say that there’s nothing wrong with pedophilia at all for any reasons. Pedophilia is just an attraction to children. Most pedophiles simply got wired up that way through no fault of their own.

Pedophilia is a sexual orientation. There honestly is nothing wrong with any sexual orientation whatsoever. Anyone can get turned on by anything they want to. It’s a free country, and we haven’t made thought crimes illegal yet, though I am sure harridans like the commenter are working on it.

Pedophilia is simply a thought process, a sexual orientation. Most people truly oriented that way got wired up that way out of no fault of their own. It’s simply a way of thinking. It doesn’t necessarily harm one single soul, and it’s not their fault anyway.

Child molestation on the other hand is an act. This seems to be what you are referring to. There is not really anything wrong with pedophilia (a sexual orientation), as its just a way of thinking that doesn’t necessarily hurt a soul.

On the other hand, child molestation, sometimes but not usually associated with pedophilia, is, I would say, a problem. In many cases, it seems to harm the girl, and in a lot of cases it’s not really consensual. Even if she goes along with it (and trust me, they do sometimes), I still think it’s wrong because we as a society simply don’t want adults having even consensual sex with kids. It’s one of our values, and we have a right to enforce our values with laws.

To summarize:

There’s nothing wrong with pedophilia. It’s just a way to think.

There’s absolutely something wrong child molestation. It’s not a way to think; it’s a type of action, and it most cases it seems to be harmful, and even where it’s not, we don’t want that bullshit in our society.

You see, people like the commenter (apparently the vast majority of Americans) think like little children. You are engaging in magical thinking. That’s what little children do.  A child thinks that a thought and action is the same thing. They often cannot differentiate one from the other. Apparently you cannot think like a adult because you never matured that far.

Newsflash! Your magical thinking is that thoughts and actions are the same thing and that a bad thought is just as bad as a bad action. But you’re wrong! Thoughts and actions are completely different things, and it’s insane to mix them up. We have crimes against behavior. We don’t yet have crimes against thoughts, but if folks like the commenter get their way, I’m sure they’re coming right up.

I do not think adults should be having sex with children under the age of 12. In most cases, it causes a lot of harm to the kids and even where it doesn’t, we have decided that we do not want this crap in our society, which is our right.

If you want to talk about adults having sex with teenage girls, it’s a lot messier, but it’s not child molesting anyway. It’s statutory rape or illegal intercourse.

That’s another subject altogether and my position on it is well known:

I advise all men to avoid having sex with teenage girls where it is illegal. Not because there’s anything wrong with it, and usually there’s not. It’s that it’s illegal as Hell nowadays and you can ruin your life and end up in jail or prison and the Sex Offender list for life, all for some hot little piece of ass. C’mon guys, it’s just not worth it. Think before you act.

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Alt Left: Chaos Amidst the Ruins: The Insanity of Female Rule in the West

This is a repost of an older post with a slightly different title. I would like to point out that this is also a position statement of the Alt Left, that is, the Alt Left strongly opposes Female Rule (basically Feminism in Power) and urges a return to male rule. Females may serve in power as long as they do not impose feminism on society, but the record is not good and seems to indicate that any time women take power, they always impose feminism, which is always catastrophic and causes nothing but chaos. Hence, the Alt Left are MRA’s or even strong MRA’s. However, the Alt Left opposes the extreme misogyny that characterizes most of the movement.

Female Rule or Male Rule means simply whether society decides to set its norms and laws based on either male or female views of the world.

For example, in modern Western society, we now have cases of Female Rule. This means that female norms, rules and laws have supplanted male rules, laws and norms.

Female Rule: Western Society amidst the Ruins

Various insane things have resulted since Female Rule has begun in the West:

1. Domestic Violence. A man goes to jail if he ever hits any female for any reason, apparently even if she is threatening his life. A woman may strike a man as many times as she wishes, but if a man hits back even one time, he is going to jail. In other words, if a woman hits a man, he has no right to hit her back. If she hits him 100 times, he has no right to hit her back. If he hits her back, he’s going to jail.

2. Sexual harassment. Female geniuses have now succeeded in making it so that if a man flirts with, looks at, or asks a woman out at work, this is “sexual harassment,” and the man will be fired from his job. Apparently the goal here is to eliminate men flirting with, looking at and asking out women at the workplace.

3. Alimony. If a woman divorces a man after 5 years of marriage, she still gets 50% of his income for the rest of her life. Why should she have that right? This is insanity.

4. Rape. On California college campuses, males accused of rape incredibly are regarded as guilty until proven innocent. Men must somehow prove that they did not commit the rape. Every sex act must receive approval before it is done. If you want to touch her tits, you have to ask her permission first, and she has to say, “Yes.” If want to you kiss her, you have to ask her, “Can I kiss you?” and she has to say, “Yes.”

If you have sex with a woman and she never utters one single word of protest to your advances, then this still may be rape, as “silence is no longer consent.” So you can still be charged with rape even if a woman never said no because you could not read her mind and figure out that she was thinking she didn’t want to do it.

In the UK, all males charged with rape are now guilty until proven innocent. Silence is not considered to be consent; a man can still commit rape even if a woman never said no because he wasn’t able to read her mind and figure out she didn’t want to do it. See the lunatic Evans case for more, where a star footballer served 2.5 years in prison for having consensual sex with a drunken woman who was in the habit of doing such things.

Sweden now has the 3rd highest rape rate on Earth not because there are many rapes in Sweden. Actually there are few rapes in Sweden, and the true rape rate is low as it has always been. However, Sweden has now been taken over by feminist lunatics who have installed the craziest rape laws the world has ever seen. Hence many sex acts and behaviors which were once legal are now considered to be “rape.” Tell a woman you are going to use a condom and then have sex with her without one? In Sweden that is called “rape.” Many other behaviors that are neither rape nor even illegal in 99% of the world are considered “rape” in Sweden.

5. Pedophile Mass Hysteria, a moral panic whereby the normal male attraction to teenage girls that all healthy males experience is insanely conflated with pedophilia or attraction to little girls 12-under, has been directly caused by Female Rule. Because of this irrational moral panic, solid majorities of Americans now believe many an insane thing.

Apparently most Americans believe these things are true:

  • A man who is aroused by teenage girls is a “pedophile” who belongs in prison.
  • A man who has sexual fantasies about teenage girls is a “pedophile” who belongs in prison.
  • A man who says he thinks about having sex or feels like he wants to have sex with teenage girls is a “pedophile” who belongs in prison.
  • Sexually speaking, a 13-17 year old teenage girl is the same thing as a 7-11 year old little girl, a “small child.”
  • Being aroused by a 13-17 year old teenage girl is the same thing as being aroused by a 7-11 year old little girl.
  • Teenage girls are “children” who are somehow “incapable of making decisions” about just about anything, especially sex.
  • Teenagers shooting nude photos of themselves and passing them around is called “production of child pornography.” The teenagers doing this are “child porn producers.”
  • Consensual sex between minors is “pedophilia,” and if minors are caught having such sex with each other, they need to be arrested, charged and convicted of “child molestation,” and afterwards they need to go on the Sex Offender Registry for the rest of their lives.
  • It is apparently illegal now for adult males to befriend teenage girls. A man who does this is doing something called “grooming.”
  • A man who speaks to a teenage girl is guilty of something called “harassing a child” because the only reason a man would talk to her is if he is scheming to have sex with her.

In every case above, we previously had laws, norms and values based on Male Rule, which is the rule of Logic over Emotion. Now in all of the above cases, Male Rule or the Rule of Reason has been overthrown by women. In its place has been substituted various new laws, rules and mores based on Female Rule, which is the Rule of Emotion. In each case, flawed but rational and fair male rules, laws and mores were replaced by faulty, ridiculous and insane female rules. Society is not better as a result. Society is simply crazier and less rational.

This sort of mass chaos and idiocy is probably the typical and possibly even universal result of allowing Female Rule to supplant Male Rule in human society.

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Teen Sex Mass Hysteria Kills Another Kid

Here.

Boy takes photo of himself having sex with a girl classmate. Somehow the photo gets found by some adult and reported to police. Idiot cops get involved. School administrators, even more boneheaded than the police, stick their big fat noses into the mess. The dumbass adults threaten to the poor boy with criminal charges for distribution of child pornography (surely a horrific abuse of that statute) and threaten to put him on the Sex Offender list for life.

What follows, logically, is the boy kills himself. Of course he did. How did you expect him to act? And he’s not the first one. There have been more, and many kids have been arrested and jailed on “child porn” charges. Quite a few have been put on the Sex Offender list for life over this idiotic nonsense.

It’s a moral panic. Let’s call it Teen Sex Mass Hysteria.

 

 

 

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Teen Sex Mass Hysteria: Anatomy of an American Moral Panic

At the moment, American fanatical puritanism is focused on teen sex.

I guess they’re just not supposed to do it! It’s out and out illegal in many states. The mere mention of the subject causes lynch mobs to rage at you and call you “pedophile.” I have been supposedly reported to the police many times as a “pedophile” simply for discussing the subject of teen sex! Jesus. Even the Victorians had nothing on us. Lots of teenagers were having sex back then and no one gave a damn.

Let’s call it Teen Sex Mass Hysteria because that’s exactly what it is. For some insane reason, puritanical Americans can’t seem to get it through their heads that teenagers are fully sexually mature beings, typically by age 13. The boys have a full blown adult sex drive (male sex drive peaks at age 16-23) and anecdotal evidence implies that even girls age 13-15 have full blown adult female sex drives nowadays.

Americans refuse to believe this. Instead they infantalize the young men and women known as teenagers, calling them kids, children, etc. The truth is that teens are not little kids. They’re not adults either, but they’re not little tiny children like you see running around in the park or the schoolyard. The difference between teenagers and little kids is so stark that it is almost like they are people from two different planets. It’s insipid and insane to conflate little children with the young men and young women called teenagers. It’s sheer idiocy.

Can someone please tell me how it is progressive to infantalize our teenage young men and young women? How is it liberal to treat 17 year olds like kindergartners? How is it feminist to support laws that imprison teenagers for having consensual sex with each other? How is it feminist, progressive or liberal to call the photos teens take of themselves and each other naked in having sex with each other “child porn?” How is it feminist to put teenage girls in jail and on the sex offender list for life for taking nude pics and sharing them with some boy? How is it progressive to imprison a teenage boy for “distributing child porn” for taking a nude photo of himself and sending it to the girl?

If this is how insane and puritanical the US Left is about sex, you can imagine how batshit nuts the US Right about the subject.

It’s time to chill on this Teen Sex Mass Hysteria bullshit. It’s profoundly backwards, reactionary and barbaric. No self-respecting liberal or progressive person should have anything to do with this insipid moral panic. Shame on us as a nation for falling victim to an obviously irrational mass hysteria.

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Is it Common for Girls About 12-16 to be Attracted to 30-50 YO Men?

Is it common for girls about 12-16 to be attracted to 30-50 yo men? Asking for a friend.

It is fairly common for 15-16 year old girls to be attracted to men in their 30’s and sometimes into their 40’s. This sort of thing is far more common than you think.

Most 15 and 16 year old girls are not interested in men in their 50’s – there is just too much age difference, but a very few are. I am almost 60, and I still have 15 and 16 year old girls openly flirting me in outrageous ways. It doesn’t happen very often anymore. I would say this happens maybe 1-2 X/year. But I won’t take them up on it. On the other hand, I am probably not a typical 59 year old man.

I had dinner with a group of people including a 15 year old girl a few years ago, and the girl spent most of the dinner rubbing her leg up against mine. And when she was not doing that, she was rubbing her arm against mine. Walking home from the restaurant, suddenly she was walking right next to me to the point where she was rubbing up against me. I just sort of chuckled and I didn’t stop her in any of these cases. I let her have her fun, but I didn’t do anything about it.

A year ago, I was at a dinner function for people of all ages, and a 16 year old girl spent most of the night making frozen robot blank stares and bedroom eyes at me. She could not take her eyes off me. I don’t think she really wanted to do anything about it, and I didn’t take her up on it.

I would admit though that at my age, most teenage girls are just not into me. I think I am just too old for them at this point.

Some 14 year old girls are attracted to men in their 30’s and 40’s, but the number is not large. 14 year old girls more commonly go after men aged 18-21, college age.

13 year old girls do not generally pursue men, but I had a 13 year old girl openly proposition me in front of the whole class when I was teaching school at age 27, and I have heard of a couple of cases of 13 year old girls seducing Mom’s boyfriend  or their stepfather. The men were ~ age 30. I do not think that is common at all though. I think in the rare cases where 13 year old girls try to seduce men, the men are ~18-30. They go for younger men, like 14 year old girls.

12 year old girls are pretty much little girls, and most of them seem to be terrified of us men, maybe for good reason. I do not think the sex drive has come on yet in girls that age.

Based on some research I have done, I do not believe the female sex drive comes on until age 13 in the US at least. But there is almost no research being done in this important area because of the fucktards and their mass hysteria over the sexuality of teenage girls. Americans really are stupid as Hell. We are probably the most puritanical nation in the entire West. There is something really fucked up about our attitudes about sex. Even the British, probably the most puritanical people in Europe, are far less puritanical than Americans. There is something very deeply wrong with us. As a people, we are simply out of our minds when it comes to sex, and worse, we have always been this way.

However, in a few girls, the sex drive comes on as early as age 12, and a very few of them will try to seduce very young men. When I was 20, I had a 12 year old girl walk right up to me and proposition me, just like that. It was quite incredible. I didn’t do it, thank God. This sort of thing must be quite rare though.

The real problem here is that in the US, even 15 year olds are illegal as Hell for all men, especially those in their 30’s and 40’s. So the question is rather moot considering how dangerous it is to mess with these little temptresses.

Generally the younger the girl, the less likely she is to go after men and certainly after older men. But 15-16 year old sirens are notorious for this sort of thing.

Girls that age are seductive, scheming little minxes, and they go out of their way to deliberately seduce and even proposition men! Teenage girls are dangerous! For men, being around teenage girls is worse than playing with matches. It’s more like playing with sticks of dynamite. Teenage girls are a menace! I advise men to be very careful around them or avoid them altogether!

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About that Evil Study I Did

Bumface the bestest: Also they’re not pre-pubertal at that age but peripubertal. Plenty 11/12 yo girls have boobs and pubes and want to fuck.

In case you are wondering, this person is a pedophile-hebephile who has been coming to my site for some time now. He’s also a troll, and I do not appreciate him linking to little girls and Lolitas in the comments. He’s been banned a number of times, mostly for trolling, but he keeps coming back. I’m not a pedophile or a hebephile of course despite widespread popular lies insisting that I am. I hope I would be OK if I was one and just happened to get wired up that way, but it was not in the stars. I like my females fully developed and in this day and age, definitely over the age of consent. It’s just not worth 10 years in prison for hot little teenage girl piece of ass. Why risk it?

The line that he repeats above seems to be something that most pedophiles believe. They all seem to believe that prepubertal children of both sexes have raging sex drives and are dying to have sex with their peers and even adult men. This sounds like a self-fulfilling fantasy on the part of the pedophiles who want to believe that what they are doing is perfectly OK with children as the kids want it anyway. I always suspected it was a myth and that was what set me off on the quick and dirty study I did on the Net for which I have been ripped to  pieces over. However, I told my female FNP about this little study I did, and she was very interested and urged me to continue my research. She specializes in Female Health including sexual health, so she had a great interest in this topic. She was adamant that all teenage girls should have access to free contraception.

What drove me to want to do this little study was an attempt by me to try to test a notion that pedophiles kept tossing out that little kids are sex-starved, horny as Hell and dying for sex, including with adults. Obviously it is convenient for pedophiles to believe this as it validates their behavior and makes it seem non-harmful or even beneficial. But I was always suspicious of this theory, and I suspected that the pedophiles were lying. My working hypothesis was that prepubertal children had no real sex drive the way we adults did.

This led me to the question of exactly when the sex drive begins in females, as I care nothing about males. Despicably, there is almost nothing about this in any sort of scientific literature. Once you put “sex drive” and “prepubertal children” together in a  sentence, most people fly into crazed hysterics and lose all rational thought. They’re effectively insane for the whole time they are thinking about this subject. It’s sets off their Mass Hysteria.

So I set out to determine when the sex drive in human females comes on anyway. Along the way, I wanted information about milestones such as breast onset, pubic hair onset, and menarche, as there is a lot of talk that the ages of these events were lowering in recent decades.

I put some words into Google and was quickly led to some bulletin boards where teenage girls aged 13-15 were giving the board questionnaires with these questions in them. The boards were teenage girl only. Of course they were all very enthusiastic about answering these questions, whereas adults apparently think that girls this age having these interests is despicable, vile, sick and evil. This attitude is terrible and shows our profound hatred for teenager girls in denying them the right to experience these feelings in a normal and rational manner.

So the impetus for this little was based on my anti–pedophile ideology! I was trying to prove that pedophiles were lying about this and to catch them in their lie! Somehow this little anti-pedophile study I did has been twisted around by 95% of people to mean that I am a pedophile or pro-pedophile myself! Isn’t that insane? T

his just goes to show that we are currently experiencing a Moral Panic and Mass Hysteria on the subject of child sex and teenager sex. Really it’s Teenage Girl Mass Hysteria because no one seems to care what teenage boys do their dicks. I would like to point out to all the idiots pushing this mass hysteria, 90% of whom are women, that they are being profoundly misogynistic about this matter. They are showing extreme hatred for teenage girls while letting teenage boys off the hook. It’s disgusting to see many women engulfed in self-hate like this.

In the course of my study, I found that pubic hair onset was age 12, but sex drive onset was not until age 13. Menarche also seemed to be around age 13. I only found one case of pubic hair onset at age 11. Only one girl was masturbating at age 12, and only one did not start until age 14. Age 13 seems to be the magic age nowadays. I did have a female client who started masturbating compulsively to Internet porn at age 11 though.

In response to the pedophile’s comment above, I have some remarks. I tell you what. I have met quite a few 12 yr old girls around here the last decade or so in this town. Some of them lived in my complex.

One thing I can tell you for sure about 12 year old girls is that they absolutely do not want to fuck, they have no interest in either boys or men, they mostly have stick little boy bodies, many have little to no observable tits, and basically they are still little girls, not a lot different from a 10-11 yr old girl who has no sex drive at all.

Also they seem very worried about, frightened of and suspicious of men, and it is very hard to talk to them. They act like they are terrified of us. They still have high pitched little girl voices and they call their fathers “Daddy” just like little girls do. They’re not ready for the sexual game. It’s basically a little girl!

But by age 13, something revolutionary happens to their bodies and minds, and they are just not little girls anymore. That event is the onset of a full-blown adult sex drive. I still don’t think adult men should be able to have sex with 13 year old girls – it’s just not right, but they have full sexual rights as sexual beings, and they should have a right to legal sex with their peers all the way up to age 17. In other words, it ought to be legal for them to do that. Now whether it’s a good idea or not is another story. But arresting teenagers and convicting them in a court of law for the crime of having sex with their 13-17 year old peers is utter madness. It’s cruel and insane. This needs to be dealt with in the family itself, but good luck with that. Ask around about how well parents can control hormonal boy-crazy teenage girls.

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Game/PUA: In Praise of Older Women

As you get older and older, teenage girls, even the legal ones, seem more and more silly and immature. It’s hard for me to handle even young women in their 20’s nowadays. Hell, I have problems with young women in their 30’s!

Older women are better than women 18-36 in so many ways.

They don’t so freaked out about sex talk for one thing. Easiest way to blow an early thing with a young woman is to start talking about sex too explicitly. You just signed your death warrant.

If I am talking to a new young woman, I have to be very careful talking her, even if I am dating her because they flip out so easily and get crazy offended so quickly over sex talk.

Yes, of course you can engage in flirtatious conversation, but it has to be very carefully calibrated such that it is almost like a championship chess match. You toss out comments, look at her responses, analyze them carefully, and then maybe later, toss out another little comment. It’s sort of like fishing. Tossing out comments like bait for fish. You adjust your comments based on her responses, which you have to analyze very carefully. It’s very touchy-feely, and you have to proceed slowly and very cautiously and even then, you will blow it up a lot.

And young women are inhibited. Women aged 18-29 are just inhibited, period. That’s why they flip out about sex talk. They are pretty puritanical too. Even if they do not dump you over sex talk, they act very uncomfortable, and you get these long silences or they roll their eyes and toss their hair like you just said something wrong or offensive. Or you get this long silence and then a minute later they come back and answer. Or they use all these euphemisms for sexual words. They use terms like lady parts, V for vagina, duck for fuck, or online they refuse to spell out fuck and put in symbols instead. You can’t say the word pussy, they get upset. I tell older women about this, and they laugh at these young women and call them silly and inhibited.

Older women are far better as far as this goes, and it’s a lot harder to offend them with sex talk. You still can of course, but you can relax a lot more about it. Older women simply act like they are a lot hungrier for sex, so they are less likely to flip out if you say something dirty.  Furthermore, most of them act like they’ve already heard it all and in a lot of cases done it all, and nothing really shocks them anymore. Personally, I think they are simply a lot more relaxed about sex. They act like they don’t care anymore, and I think older men feel this way too. They’ve stopped worrying and giving a damn about sex, and they just don’t give a flying fuck. That of course is the whole key to sex right there.

Older women are also much easier to get into bed. Young women are a great big pain. Quite a few 18 year old girls are still virgins. Older women have often stopped worrying about morals and being considered sluts which is a big fear of young women. They are not getting any younger, and a lot have this attitude that they want to have as much sex as possible before they are dead, which is coming sooner rather than later. On the other hand, young women act like they have all the time in the world.

By their 40’s, most women have decided that they like sex quite a bit. I think they have had so much of it that they finally decided that they like it. You are much more likely to find a young woman in her 20’s and 30’s claim she has lost her sex drive or is no longer dating or having sex. It’s uncommon for older women to say that, although you do start hearing it after menopause. But there it is a case of a whore turned nun, and that has some limitations due to their fond memories. Even postmenopausal women seem to be way more into sex than most people think.

With older women, they will very often send you dirty pictures or nudes even before the first date. With young women, this is a lot more difficult. If you ask a young woman if she wants to see your nudes, a lot of times you will get a no. But older women usually want to see them. I’m amazed at how often they say yes to that request.

First date sex is not out of the ordinary at all, and it’s not unusual for a woman to come over to your place for a first date with an overnight bag already packed. Getting a young woman to spend the night is likely to be a big deal and on a first date, that sounds quite difficult.

I get a lot of crap from haters about supposedly being obsessed with teenage girls, but really I could care less about them. I just think that a lot of what is said about them is straight up crap and lies, and that’s what I am out to destroy.  It’s insane that we are not supposed to be attracted to them or it’s a pathology or paraphilia if we are. That’s why I like to talk about it – because I think society is nuts on the issue. They’re nice to look at, but as I get older and older, they seem like way too young of a girl, and it’s a massive turnoff. Anyway, around here they are deadly illegal even if they are a week or two shy of 18. I mean I am not even into young women that much. Why would I be into teenyboppers? Get real.

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No, You Cannot Libel the Dead

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 1:

I am getting tired of saying this over and over, but most of the material below is made up of rumors and my own opinions and theories. None of that is represented as fact. Furthermore, I am not using rumors as reliable sources as has been alleged. I never said they were reliable sources. How reliable is a rumor? That’s for you to determine, but in general a rumor is not considered to be a reliable source, and they are not treated as such below. 

Also when I say I am 100% sure of something, that means that I am 100% sure of it in my own mind. All of us are 100% sure of all sorts of things we cannot prove. That’s the nature of the human condition. We simply assume many things are facts until proven otherwise. Now many of these things that I was completely certain of were later proven to be wrong. Such is the case with many other things people become certain of in their own mind. Once again, when I say I am sure or certain or 100% certain, it means only that I am sure in my own mind. I am not stating that any of these things are facts. They are simply my convictions. Any of all of these firmly held beliefs of mine about this case could possibly will later prove to be false.

The only thing that is represented as fact are statements sourced from LE or the media. If you have issues with rumors, theories, opinions. etc., just quit reading right now and save yourself the heartache. 

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 2:

I thought I made this one thing perfectly clear as Richard Nixon used to say:

I have no sources whatsoever among the families of the girls.

I have no sources whatsoever in LE, local or otherwise. 

There ya go.

What I do have is sources close to the families. These people generally live in Delphi and the surrounding region. So that makes my rumors even more hearsay. I’m not even talking to the families. I am talking to people who talk to the families!

Of course I have no LE sources. I thought I made that clear. Never have. Yes, I have talked to some of them, but of course they didn’t tell me a thing. A couple of times they told me that a certain person was a POI or that a certain person had been cleared with an airtight alibi. I suppose they don’t mind giving out that information. But other than that, they don’t tell me jack. It’s hard enough to even get them to call you back. I think if I asked them if my name was Robert Lindsay, they would say, “I am sorry, but I cannot comment on matters relating to an ongoing investigation.” That’s how bad it is.

So what do I have? Once again, I have sources who are close to LE. They get their information from LE, then they talk to me. So once again this is even more hearsay, as I am not even talking to LE but to the people who are talking to LE.

I really wish people would quit claiming I have LE or family sources. I just don’t. If you think I have these sources, just quit reading my stuff right now and go away. You will not be missed!

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 3: The lies never end. The latest is “Lindsay takes other people’s theories and claims they are his own.” Of course I don’t. This website is nothing but a compendium of rumors from all over the Net regarding this crime. I go through the rumors and try to rank them on a scale of weak to strong. I compare them against other rumors to see which one is better. All sorts of theories have been flying around since day one. I report those too.

The theories are really just more rumors. I’d say the vast majority of the rumor theories reported here were thought up by other people. I find most of my theories on other sites about this crime. That’s how it works, you know. You get theories about the crime from others. Yes, you use your own theories and you use other people’s theories. I really do not have time to down through the list of theories and say where I got them from. I have come up with a few of my own, but even with those, I guess someone else thought of them first. Also a lot of the theories here are also the result of constant brainstorming I do with my fellow sleuths.

The dead cannot currently be defamed under English law. This is because defamation, whether it is libel or slander, is a personal action which cannot be assigned or brought on someone’s behalf. … Similarly, where a person commences defamation proceedings but passes away before a decision is reached, the action is abated.

I am now getting accused of libeling Abigail Williams, a dead person. How am I libeling her? I am accusing the poor thing of having sex!

Anyway, I am not accusing her of anything. I have my ear to the ground for the deepest and best rumors going around right inside of Delphi, and I am in connection with amateur sleuths who are doing some of the best work I have ever seen on this case. These people have reported to me that there is deep longstanding rumor in Delphi that Abigail Williams had a boyfriend for months. He is a 16 year old boy whose name is known. There is also a deep and near-secretive whispered rumor that Abbie was pregnant by this boy.

Who told me these diabolical rumors about this poor, untainted virgin maiden? Two women, Two middle aged women. That’s who’s spreading these vile rumors tarnishing the pure and untrammeled reputation of Miss Abigail Williams.

Go take it up with them. It’s your own gender, the females, who are spreading this stuff. I am just passing it along from someone else.

I’m not accusing anyone of anything. I am just saying that there is a rumor saying this and that. By the way, reporting of rumors is generally immune from libel law also, as long as they are stated as such. It’s almost impossible to win a libel case against any real journalist in the US. The free speech laws have been so widely by court precedent that you have to be pretty horrible to lose a libel suit.

Oh, the horrors! Can you imagine, a teenage girl having sex with a teenage boy! Their reputations would be ruined! I mean, that never happens, ever! Teenage girls never have sex with teenage boys!

We are a terribly puritanical culture when you are said to libel a sexually mature human being for stating the so called damaging information that they…! Oh my God! I can’t say the word because I am such an uptight prude! That word! That evil, gross, sickening word! That they had…they had…sex! Oh no, I said the word! Ew gross! What word? Sex! Shhhhhhhhhhhhh that’s an evil word. Don’t say that word! You will go to Hell! God will strike you down!

All you women screaming that a female can be libeled at all by accusing her of having sex, do you support ISIS? The Taliban? I mean that’s the way they think.

Got news for everyone here. There’s nothing wrong with having sex! There’s nothing wrong with any mature human having sex with another mature human, provided it is legal. I don’t even care if 13 and 14 year old girls have sex. Enough of them do anyway. I would just want them to make sure they don’t get pregnant. You can’t stop enormous natural human drives.

Telling mature people to not have sex is like telling to them to not eat, sleep or drink. Sex is a natural human function. It’s a good thing. It’s not an evil that sends you to Hell as so many women on here seem to think.

And it’s legal for underage teens to have sex with each other. Here in California, they can do it all they want. Nor should there be anything LE can do about it.

Teenagers have free sexual agency and should have the right to express their natural sexual desires and perform their normal sexual functions with other teenagers. Why do you want to make it against the law?

Are you a Puritan? A Victorian? A Comstock? A fuddy duddy? A prig? An uptight person? Are you repressed? Where are your sackcloths? Do you flagellate yourself? Are you frigid? Are you impotent? Do you lie there like a fish? Do you get off three seconds after you are in? Do you insist on doing it in the dark because you are so repressed? Are you a lousy lay? Why do you hate sex so much? Too much religion?

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