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Female Rule Doesn’t Work, and Men Are Necessary for Any Societal Achievement

Betty: It’s right that the reaction of these women is exaggerated but to say that they are incapable of running a country is plainly wrong. All war, chaos and problems were and are caused by male presidents like Hitler, Erdogan, Trump, etc. So it’s rather males being drama queens.

Saying that all women would make these memes illegal just because SOME have that point of view is almost equal to saying that all Muslims are terrorists because ISIS members consider themselves Muslims.

On top of that, many years ago when women weren’t allowed to work they were controlling a whole household of like 10 kids while cooking and cleaning every single day without help. So I’d say women are very capable of running a society or country, as for example Maria Theresia reigned Austria instead of her husband, which went perfectly fine.

Women can govern in partnership with men but countries must be ruled by the laws and mores of men. Women are free to help us run countries only as long as those countries are run according to the rules of men.

If you let women govern according to the rules and mores of women, things will fall apart pretty quickly. A lot of Communist groups put women in charge when they took over small rural villages. It was always a catastrophe. The first thing women do when they get in charge is make prostitution, gambling and booze illegal. Those are the three things that men need to make like tolerable enough so they don’t kill themselves, and those are the first things women outlaw. Thanks a lot, ladies. This rule does not work very well. Men are not very happy, but really no one is very happy. Things rapidly become pretty chaotic.

Sweden is currently being ruled by women. It’s under Female Rule – I mean women ruling according to the rules and mores of women along with a bunch of Beta cuck men helping them. It is not going well. The men are leaving in droves to go to Thailand to grab Thai brides because they have had it up to here with Swedish women.

Maria Teresia, many queens, and Thatcher all governed according to the rules, laws and mores of men. That’s not even Female Rule. That’s called Male Rule with Female Rulers – Women governing according to the laws, rules and mores of Male Rule.

Female Rule is when women impose their worldview on society. As long as the male rules of society are kept intact, women are free to take any government position they wish.

There are societies in Africa that are essentially under Female Rule. The men have just said, “The Hell with it, we’re done, here, you ladies take over. Have fun.” Women hold most of the power in these places. There is little violence or crime and actually there are not even a lot of serious disputes. These are sort of peace love dope hippie- type societies.

On the other hand, not much gets done in this places. They tend to stagnate and cruise in stasis. In particular, there is not much education because I suppose most women are just not interested in that. A lot of stuff that needs to get done never gets done, and everything gets put off. So you have societies without a lot of serious conflict, but on the other hand, there is little advancement.

I think women want to find a happy place and just be relaxed and go with the flow there rather than deal with the sturm and drang of continuous progress.

Personally I do not believe women can run societies, or if they do, they have to do so in partnership with good men or according to the rules of good men.

I feel that men are essential for any societal advancement. Women are free to help us men in societal advancement, but if you put them in charge, it’s just not going to work. Women just can’t run societies. There’s nothing wrong with that. Women can’t do everything, you know. So there’s some stuff they can’t do well? So what? There are plenty of things that women are great at. They should focus on those.

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Alt Left on the Net: Someone Gets Us Right

Here.

A: Ugh. Yes. And don’t even get me started on the motherfuckers who are glad Trump won because they think if it REALLY gets worse, people will rise up and there will be a revolution. But not this “incremental progress” pussy bullshit.

A REAL revolution. You know, the kind that makes their dicks hard.

They are almost always straight white dudes.

How very brave of them to sacrifice thei- er, I mean, minorities’ well-being in the name of The Revolution.

Good luck getting any Muslims, POC, LGBT+ people and women to march with you backstabbing assholes. They’ll all be too busy trying to stay the fuck alive, healthy and functional in this incoming hellscape you’ve voted them into. Or not voted, as it were.

In any case, fuck all the way off, get your head out of your ass, start fucking LISTENING for a change, then get *off* your ass and then maybe you’ll be forgiven.

B: Yeah, that ideology is called “accelerationism” and it’s a hackneyed idea from Marxism. It is literally a Bolshevik ideology: “the worse, the better.” It yielded Stalin. Can’t believe this idea has adherents in the 21st Century.

You are dead right that it’s an irrational form of machismo rather than a legit program of change. It’s a Che Guevara t-shirt, not a plan.

In 100-plus years, Marxism has literally accomplished next-to-nothing in America except a presidential assassination and a few cushy academic jobs for its more bougie adherents. By contrast, the Civil Rights movement (and its offspring, women’s liberation and gay liberation) has accomplished quite a bit. But the masculinist, so-called “alt left” wants to put those folks’ concerns in 2nd place and run a fantasy cosplay class-based “revolution” centering white men who love Fight Club. Or, in the case of the older guys, their fantasy is a 1930s/1940s WPA mural come to life … with Jim Crow and Japanese-American internment camps just out of the frame.

The more fact-based and sanity-based model of political change in modern democracy is the Overton Window. I pray we still have a modern democracy in which to apply it.

This comment here:

But the masculinist, so-called “alt left” wants to put those folks’ concerns in 2nd place and run a fantasy cosplay class-based “revolution” centering white men who love Fight Club. Or, in the case of the older guys, their fantasy is a 1930s/1940s WPA mural come to life … with Jim Crow and Japanese-American internment camps just out of the frame.

Describes us very well. Almost perfectly in fact. The Alt Left are not much MRA’s as masculinists. But then we are feminists too in a sense. Masculinists as in equal rights for men, and feminism as in equal rights for women. Surely there was a patriarchy in the past, but the Alt Left doubts that is extant much anymore and in some ways, we now have a matriarchy as the women and their wuss/White knight/Captain Save-A-Ho/male feminist allies rule society in some respects and they use their rule to attack men. In that sense, in some ways, men are an oppressed class nowadays being abused by an oppressive Matriarchy.

So we are brocialists or even ultra-brocialists. That does not mean so much that we are sexist pigs but more that we are ordinary guys, regular, normal guys who act like normal masculine heterosexual men. The Alt Left is “socialism for the regular guy.”

The part about the Alt Left being a 1930’s WPA mural come to life and that this model is being pushed by some of the older Alt Left men, is completely right on. This is absolutely what we are pushing. I do not know about any other older Alt Left men, but I am an older Alt Left man and this is indeed my vision.

It’s seldom that anyone on the Net gets us right.

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Not Everyone Who Voted Trump Is a Fascist

Trump himself is absolutely a fascist, all the way. And I would say that quite a few of his followers are headed in that direction also.

But Trump has a lot of other supporters who do not appear to be fascists. Jason discussed many young male Libertarians at his college who support Trump on economic grounds.

  1. Non-fascist wingnuts. I think a lot of wingnuts are actually appalled by seeing fascism real and in the flesh here. These are all of the Republicans speaking out against him during the campaign. These are just corporate and rich types who want their money and nothing else. They see real fascism in Trump and they do not like it.
  2. Non-fascist racists. Trump has a helluva lot of racist supporters, but it’s important to note that not all racists are fascists. Not at all.
  3. Libertarians, often young men.
  4. MRA’s, but with a lot of overlap above.
  5. A few very confused Leftists who need to have their heads examined. On looking into them, most of them are “leftwing racists” and yes there are such a thing.
  6. 1%’ers. Tulio pointed out that a lot of the rich just voted for him to get their tax cut.
  7. Corporate types. As corporatist as Hillary is, I think many corporate types thought Trump would be good for business, and in fact, he will.
  8. Middle class suburban types in flyover country and in the South. They always vote Republican, especially in the South.
  9. Christian fundamentalists. They just want to ban abortion and get their other judicial stuff done. Purely utilitarian. There are indeed quite a few Christofash out there, but many rightwing evangelicals are not fascists at all, and I am convinced that many are not even racist.
  10. Muslim haters. These are the types who go into the voting booth and vote muh fuck Islam. Lot of overlap with a lot of the above, but a lot of people just pull the lever on screw the Muslims.
  11. Aggrieved workers. Many working class people may well have felt that Trump was their only hope as the Democrats for the 1% like Hillary wrote them off long ago. Trump won’t help them either, but at least he’s addressing their concerns. These people are voting against these horrible trade deals.
  12. Opponents of mass immigration and illegal immigration. Of course,  most of these folks are racist as Hell, and there’s a lot of overlap above, but I could see a guy like me going in there and pulling the lever for Trump because I am sick and tired of mass immigration, want to throw out all the illegals and want to slash 95% of the fake guest worker scabs. It’s possible to be against all of these things and not be particularly racist. I don’t think I am all that racist, and I oppose all of this.
  13. American nationalists. Although there is huge overlap above, and the fash component is all these types, I suppose it is possible to be a US nationalist without being a fash or a racist. I get called America hater all the time, but the truth is that I am an American nationalist. I love my country, so it really pisses me off when I see my country acting evil. It’s like love for a wayward son. As a man who loves his country, I want to see my country doing good, not evil. The main reason  I oppose all this mass, illegal and guest worker immigration is it’s bad for country. That’s why I oppose the trade deals too.

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Who Voted Trump? 100% Rightwingers and Racists, 0% Anyone Else

Every American I know who is voted Trump is either:

A conservative, reactionary, rightwing extremist or fascist.

Those who do not claim they do not fit into those categories (which are very few) are all racists. These are all White people, White men, and they are all voting for Trump on race. They either hate Blacks or Hispanics or both. And furthermore, all of these people identify themselves as rightwing even when they say they are not.

Who did not vote for Trump:

  • I do not know one single person who does not identify as rightwing, conservative, reactionary, rightwing extremist or fascist who voted for Trump. Not one.
  • Almost everyone I know who voted for Trump is White, and almost all of them are men.
  • I do not know any moderate non-racists who voted for Trump.
  • I do not know any non-rightwingers who voted for Trump.
  • I do not know any self-described moderates or leftwingers who voted for Trump.
  • I do not know any Blacks who voted for Trump.
  • I do not know any women who voted for Trump.

So Trump was elected by:

  • Conservatives. I do not know one single non-conservative who voted for him. Right-wingers elected Trump. Everyone who voted for him was rightwing, even if they said they were not. In fact, those who said they are not have been identifying as rightwing for a long time now.
  • Racists. On the off-chance that anyone I knew denied being conservative, then they were absolutely racist. The only possible non-racists who voted for Trump were hardcore conservative Republicans, and that’s a wildly racist position right there. Note that a number of these horrifically racist Whites virulently denied that they were racist to me. All of these people who denied being racist to me were overt Alt Right supporters, and all were more or less Nazis.
  • Whites. Whites elected Trump, mostly White men. Almost everyone I know who voted for him is a White man. I only know one non-White who voted for Trump, and he is Alt Right Hispanic.
  • Men. I do not know one single woman who voted for Trump.
  • Muslims. I do know some Muslims who probably voted for Trump, and it would be nice if Trump would do them a favor and throw them out of the country. I have no idea why they did this, but Muslims are profoundly conservative, even reactionary people.
  • MRA’s. I do know some men who voted for Trump on sexism (MRA types), but almost all of them are also very racist, so it’s a wash. I only know one nonracist MRA who voted Trump.

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“The Difference between Antifeminism in the West and Antifeminism in India,” by Magneto

The Difference between Antifeminism in the West and Antifeminism in India

by Magneto

There is a huge antifeminism movement in both the Western world and India. But are they the same? After having extensive contact with both movements, I can say definitely that they are not the same.

Men in the West who are antifeminists are basically just demanding equal laws in divorce and custody rights, and this is a completely fair demand to make. It shows how sick a lot of Western women are because many Western women think it’s perfectly okay to destroy a man’s life in divorce court.

Whereas antifeminism in India means a very different thing. There is a smaller subset of MRA’s in India who are only demanding equal laws in divorce courts, but the majority of Indian men who are part of the antifeminism movement have a different demand. In India they are basically demanding a continuation of the backwards, regressive Hindu culture which has literally enslaved women for thousands of years.

On a side note, there is evidence that there was a period in Ancient India where sex was openly practiced and there was no shame or guilt surrounding sex. Sex was considered something spiritual and had certain spiritual practices attached to it called tantra. Modern-day “Satanism” is actually rooted in these ancient tantric practices, and it was considered “White Magic” due to its healing ability. Modern-day “Satanism” is just some pathetic perversion of these ancient hidden practices. If you’re interested in spiritual stuff, it is well worth it to take the time to google and study the two terms “tantra” and “kundalini”.

Anyway, most Indian MRA’s are demanding that women remain as slaves to their husbands. So there is a huge difference between simply wanting fair divorce laws and wanting that women should remain enslaved. And this is just more proof that anything Indians touch turns to shit.

The antifeminism movement in the West is growing tremendously due to how badly men have been treated in divorce courts and how badly boys have been treated in the educational system. These are all fair and rational demands. I don’t know of any Western MRA’s who are demanding that women should become enslaved or anything like that. Men in the West are sick and tired of their wives being able to divorce them on a whim and then destroy them financially by stealing their house, car, assets, incomes, etc in divorce court as well as destroying them emotionally by stealing their kids from them and denying them any custody or visitation rights.

Unfortunately, most women in the West are so brainwashed by feminism that they believe men’s demands for fair and just divorce laws and true equality is the same as the backwards sexism of the older cultures. In the West women are so brainwashed and screwed up by feminism that if you demand that divorce courts should have fair laws they think you are an evil chavinistic pig who wants to enslave women. And this is proof that Western women do not want true equality.

In a truly equal society, women would pay alimony/child support 50% of the time, and 50% of custody time would go towards the father. Instead we have a society where women are so privileged that they get alimony, child support, and custody 90 percent of the time.

Or how about university admissions? Something like 65% of university students are women. Why aren’t feminists demanding that 50% of students be men and 50% be women? After all, that would be equality, right?

Or how about the military draft? Funny how feminists never demanded, not even once, that women should also be required to register for the military draft.

So as you can see, the real sexist bigots in the Western world are the majority of Western women who do support not gender equality but female supremacism. In this way, Western women are no different from Indian men because Indian men are also sexist pigs who support male supremacism. Western women and Indian men are simply two sides of the same coin.

For the world to progress, Indian men need to be willing to evolve and come to terms with the concept of equality. Western women also need to be willing to come to terms with the concept of equality because for far too long Western women have enjoyed a privileged position in society. Until Western women are willing to humble themselves and be ready to embrace true equality, no change will come in the West either.

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New Interview with Me Up: Robert Stark Interviews Alt Left Blogger Ryan Englund

I am actually one of the interviewers on the show along with Rabbit, von Goldstein and Stark. All in all, this was a truly fantastic show ,and I have a great deal of respect for all three of these men.

Rabbit has always been very nice and respectful towards me, and I respect him for that. I also think he is a fine writer with some good ideas.

Alex von Goldstein was also on. Although he is Jewish, he is probably the most Alt Right of all of us. He also is quite smart, and I gained new respect for him on this show.

Ryan Englund is a brilliant new member of the Alt Left who has rapidly risen to become one of its stars. I honestly cannot believe how smart and learned he is. Of all four of us on the show, he may well have been the smartest and most educated person there. He’s a really nice guy, he’s very easy to get along with, he’s sane, rational, stable and calm, and he’s also a very smart political strategist (I’m not the most diplomatic person out there, so I’m probably not really great at politics). At the moment, I would say that Ryan is one of the leaders of the movement. Although I founded it and Rabbit was the next early adopter, nearly Rabbit nor I put in nearly the work on it that Ryan does.

Robert Stark Interviews Alt Left Blogger Ryan Englund

Robert Stark, Alex von Goldstein, Rabbit, and Alt Left founder Robert Lindsay talk to Ryan Englund. Ryan is from Alberta, Canada, and blogs at Samizdat Chronicles.

Topics include:

Ryan’s political journey and his early experiences with censorship from both the Right and Left.
The political situation in Canada.
How Ryan’s interest has always been in labor and economic issues rather than Identity Politics.
Ryan discovered the Alt Left through Rabbit’s Alt Left Manifesto and Robert Lindsay‘s blog.
Ryan’s manifesto The Alternative Left – What It Is.
Subtypes on the Alternative Left.
The Left Wing of the Alt Right, who are most open to race realism and opposed to mass immigration but are also inclined towards some kind of economic socialism or social democracy.
The Red Enlightenment, which includes Transhumanism, Fututirsm, and an outlook based on science and reason.
The brocialistsRyan’s article on on Warren Farrell‘s book The Myth of Male Power and how it relates to Marxist theory.
The Gamergate Left including The Amazing Atheist and Sargon of Akkad.
The new Alt Left entryists who are trying to impose SJW Political Correctness on the movement and purge some of the original members.
Life of Brian – The People’s Front of Judea.
The Regressive Left and how SJW’s are the new fascists.
The effects of mass immigration on workers and how the labor movement was historically for immigration restriction.
How corporations have no loyalty to their nations.
Ryan points out a quote from the Communist Manifesto.

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Rabbit, “A Proposal to Go Away”

From Rabbit’s site. Rabbit is upset because the Alt Left, which he helped found while creating the first Alt Left website, seems to have been taken over by entryists who are engaging in a hostile takeover of the movement and wringing out of it much of what Rabbit and even I for that matter had envisioned. Rabbit of course is into staunch White advocacy and is in fact a White nationalist. So the original Alt Left in Rabbit’s wing really was “the left wing of the Alt Right,” which is a motto I came up with which Rabbit has adopted. You’re welcome, Rabbit. Rabbit actually is the left wing of the Alt Right. He’s never fit in over there and never will because, well, he’s not very rightwing!

I’ve always said that the worst part of the Alt Right is that word in there that says “right.” See it? See that word? Well, that’s one of the most serious problems with the Alt Right right there. And if you want to know why Rabbit split off into an Alt Left or why I did the same, there’s your answer right there. Neither Rabbit nor especially I is rightwing on much of anything. Rabbit is apparently rightwing on race, but he’s not very rightwing on much of anything else. The Alt Right is a rightwing movement. They’re conservatives. Or reactionaries. Or fascists. And for those of us on the Left, no matter that we were on the fringes of the Alt Right for various reasons, that was the real dealkiller right there. The rightwing part. Because we’re just not very rightwing.

Even where we sympathize with the Alt Right, I feel that they go too far. Needless to say, they go too far on race. I am not down with White nationalism. They go way too far on Jews. I am not willing to deport all non-Whites and Jews from this country, much less kill the Jews as quite a few Alt Rightists actually want to do. These guys are literal actual Nazis. As a man of the Left, I am never going to get into bed with any Nazis, Strasserites or otherwise. Just forget it.

On men’s rights and anti-feminism, once again they take it way too far. Most MRA’s are complete idiots, basically the mirror image of the insane feminists that they hate so much. Rabbit and I are completely down with equity feminism as one of the great liberation movements of the 1960’s. The feminist-haters are lunatics who hate all feminism, even the drive for equal rights, want to take the vote away from women and even forbid women from working and make them stay at home and bake muffins and change diapers instead. That’s so reactionary I can’t put it into words.

Yes gender feminism sucks, but so does this insane reactionary anti-feminism. The MRA’s have some excellent issues, but they are mostly screeching nutcases raising havoc about imaginary issues just like…um…Western feminists? The misogyny in the MRA movement is disgusting to me. It’s as bad as the man-hating bitches in Gender Feminism. The Alt Right wants to bring back the nuclear Leave it to Beaver family and both Rabbit and I think that is stupid. “Let’s all go back and live in the 1950’s!” Come on.

Much as I hate the Cultural Left, I am one of its children.

Many of my friends never had children. My girlfriends have had lesbian sex with other women, even to the point of lesbian affairs, and have screwed 50-75 men including a number of 3-ways. Most of my girlfriends and friends have taken drugs and have been a part of the Drug Culture for a long time. We’re not against the existence of real biological gay people. Many of my friends have lived with the opposite sex out of wedlock and had abortions. Some have been single for many years. One male friend worked in the porn industry for a while. A female friend works as a stripper at times. We love rock and roll and rock and roll culture. I love the Counterculture, the Beats, the Hippies, the punks, the goths, and I don’t even mind hipsters, though that was a bit after my time.

The Alt Right hates all of those things.

The Alt Right hates modern art of all kinds and wants to go back to classical art. Rabbit and I are big fans of most all modern art genres. Rabbit in particular is into modern architecture, including space futurism and neon. We love modern movies made by (((you know who))), which the Alt Right hates and thinks is cultural degeneracy. 

And Rabbit and I are both very turned off by the anti-Left and anti-socialist nature of the Alt Right since both of us are economic Leftists. In short, there’s not much space for him over there, and there’s even less for me. Hence the Alt Left.

I don’t really mind all of these entryists, but I can see how Rabbit thinks it is a hostile takeover. That’s because…well…it is a hostile takeover. The entryists have taken the movement and deracinated it so to speak. Deracinated it even to the point of not even wanting to talk about such things, as in my case.

A Proposal To Go Away

Some entryist, “Lord Keynes,” who seems weirdly obsessed with Post-Keynesian economics, made a post on his blog called “Proposal for an Alt Left Political Program.”  In it he makes the claim that my wing “doesn’t even belong in the Alt Left.”

Group (1) doesn’t even belong on the Alt Left at all in my view: these people belong on the Alt Right. The only exception I would make is Robert Lindsay, who seems to have some pretty controversial opinions and is extremely hostile to Cultural Leftism but at least doesn’t seem motivated by Alt Right racial hatred or White Supremacism.

This is of course bizarre, considering I was here long before him and am one of the pioneers of the AltLeft. In fact I wrote my manifesto about a year ago, so if he read it and it didn’t suit him, he is free to make up a new name for whatever *new* movement he wants to be a part of.

I’ve got news for you, I’m not going anywhere. I own AltLeft.com so to the extent anyone uses and popularizes the term, they will inevitably be driving traffic to my site where it will forever be associated with my views he finds so offensive…muahahahahah!

Second, the nerve of this entryist to basically say, “well I guess Robert Lindsay should still be a part of it.” Hello dude, Robert Lindsay is one of the originals, and yeah he has “some pretty controversial opinions.” The AltLeft has always been about race realism and things like gender realism. That’s the whole fucking point. It was for people who had a lot of left wing views but who held opinions considered too taboo or “problematic” for the mainstream.

If you use the term “controversial opinions” unironically, you aren’t AltLeft or AltRight or alt anything as far as I’m concerned. You’re right in there with the dominant ethos of the PC left. There’s nothing alternative about you, and you’re just looking to latch onto something with some new energy for your esoteric pet economic project. Robert Lindsay has been involved in left race realism for a long time. Heck, I even remember reading Lindsay’s blog like 8 years ago when it was one of the only blogs that honestly dealt with the subject of race.

It’s true that I use the tag line “the left wing of the alt right.” I do this for a number of simple reasons:

1. Lindsay frequently used it to describe himself, and I thought it was catchy. I needed a new tagline for my site. It used to say “the other red pill,” but I’ll confess something…I have always hated the movie The Matrix. I never liked it and thought the film was terrible when it came out. I don’t like much of any Sci-Fi from after the 1970’s. I think it’s basically all garbage (with a few exceptions from the 80’s and early 90’s.) So basically I’ve never been much into the pill analogy and find it cringy but have occasionally used it anyway.

2. It doesn’t matter how many issues one is left wing on (I’m socially liberal, anti-traditionalist and practically a “space communist,”) if you engage in any kind of pro-White advocacy, race realism, or gender realism…then when you have any kind of debate, people will automatically say “Dude you’re not left wing, you’re Far Right.” So by calling it the “left wing of the alt-right” there’s at least a chance I can debate them without having to hear that obligatory tedious remark. Even people like Amazing Atheist (who is basically an egalitarian free speech activist) get called racist, Neo-Nazi, far right and so forth all the time.

3. I can’t really ever be anything but a fringe outside figure in the AltRight because I’m too socially liberal for them. They have their own orthodoxy, which is clear to me whenever I visit the comment sections or forums at many of their sites. I’m not religious and don’t have any similar cultural or personal interests (I can probably count on one hand the number of right wingers I’ve known that had a positive opinion of mid-century modern architecture, minimalist art, or lo-fi music.) I don’t like any of the things they like. The only thing I have in common with them is that I’m racist and don’t care, but on that *one* issue I’m willing to ally with them all the way. Also, even though I’ve tried to get away from the AltRight, some of the respected figures still claim me as their own and haven’t disavowed me.

The AltLeft at least on this site will continue to occupy the niche for people who are pro-White but don’t fit in with the prudes, Christian neoconfederates, GOP+, and are too culturally and socially liberal to feel completely at home at places like the Daily Stormer and VNN. I don’t really have any hate for those other groups but definitely some ideological differences. Yet at this point they are the only ones bothering to fight for the interests of white people. Almost everyone else is useless and just talks about PC double standards and complains about free speech being restricted. At least the people at The Right Stuff recognize we’ll have to actually be confrontational toward people that hate us, and sometimes that means getting nasty and being assholes. Simply asking for mercy and understanding isn’t going to work.

So like I said, I’m not going anywhere. If it bothers you that I’m associated with the Alternative Left, then you can find a new label to associate yourself with. Look up at the title of this site and the URL. That is the brand you are helping to build. So thank you for that.

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Social Democracy for the 21st Century: “A Proposal for an Alt Left Political Program”

From Lord Keynes’ page. This is Lord Keynes’ own proposal for an Alternative Left. He first lists his proposal and then lists Ryan England’s proposal. He critiques Ryan’s proposal somewhat but not too much.

He also discusses yours truly here:

Group (1) doesn’t even belong on the Alt Left at all in my view: these people belong on the Alt Right. The only exception I would make is Robert Lindsay, who seems to have some pretty controversy opinions and is extremely hostile to Cultural Leftism but at least doesn’t seem motivated by Alt Right racial hatred or White Supremacism.

As you can see, he doesn’t think that The Left Wing of the Alt Right or Rabbit’s wing (Alt Left White Nationalism), really one of the original wings, should be seen as Alt Left at all. Instead he says it should be on the Alt Right. Rabbit agrees with me that his wing is the left wing of the Alt Right and says that he started out on the Alt Right, and he may just go back there.

LZ is correct that I am pretty hostile to the Cultural Left. I believe he was shocked at how hostile I am to them because he implied that I am even more hostile to them than he is, and he’s a bit of a Conservative Leftist in that regard also. I definitely hate these people and they are my enemies. I didn’t choose this. They decided to make me their enemy. I hate the Cultural Left even more than the Alt Right people mostly because the Alt Right folks pretty much leave me alone and have done so for quite some time now. In fact, it was from comments on The Right Stuff (Spencer’s site) that I first saw people saying, “The Alternative Left is Robert Lindsay.” So the Nazis pretty much came up with this term Alternative Left but they invented it for me not for themselves.

Oh well. They also invented the Volkswagen. Few things are all bad in this world.

Anyway I would like to thank these folks for coming up with this great term Alternative Left and giving me the idea for this movement in the first place. Thanks Nazis!

LK is also correct that I have some controversial views, though I might be interested in knowing what exactly those are. It’s been a given that I am controversial as Hell since I showed up. The motto of the site used to be “If I’m Not Making You Mad, I’m Not Doing My Job.” Just your basic provocateur out to make the world safe for demogogueracy.

And of course he is quite correct that I am not motivated for race hatred or White Supremacy. This is right, or at least this is how I feel. Every time I read White Supremacist stuff, I want to hit the screen because it makes me so angry. How is it that I am the same as me? If I’m one of them, why do I hate them so much?

I don’t like nasty racism too much either, though sometimes those guys can be pretty funny. VNN is a hilarious site, and even Anglin’s site is a barrel of ticks if you can don’t mind Nazis and handle the humor. I even used to like Chimpout and Niggermania not because they were racist (the people writing there are the most horrible people) but once again, they were so damn funny.

I don’t go there anymore because Alpha keeps spanking me and making me feel guilty every time I go there, and I need to obey my other Mom on this site here. God bless you, Alpha. You keep this boy away from some pretty nasty temptations and help to cleanse his soul.

A Proposal for an Alt Left Political Program

The Alternative Left Facebook group seems to be growing quickly, and I am very glad to see this.

So I have some suggestions for them to create a coherent political program.

First, the Alt Left needs to get a coherent economic theory. This is extremely important. I urge them to read up on why Classical Marxism is a flawed economic theory here and why Marxism is based on the mystical labor theory of value.

At the same time, practically all other economic schools of thought from neoclassical economics (in all its forms) and Austrian economics are also charlatanry and pseudo-science.

The only real and proper economic science for a capitalist economy is Post-Keynesian economics. The Alt Left should adopt this as its economic theory, quite simply because it *is*the only legitimate economic science for market economies.

There are various subschools of Post-Keynesian economics including Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) as can be seen  here.

Post-Keynesianism is a radical development of the theories of John Maynard Keynes but also takes important insights from Classical Economics and the theories of the idiosyncratic Marxian Michał Kalecki.

There are all sorts of other ideas and policies that should be combined with Post Keynesian economics to produce a revitalized, rational, humane, and effective Left for the 21st century, as follows:

Economics

(1) The objectives of economic policy are full employment, high wages, a tendency for real wages to rise with productivity growth, strong aggregate demand, and ideally, a dynamic economy based on manufacturing.

(2) As in Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), the Alt Left should reject the myth that taxes are required to finance government spending (see the discussions here and here). Governments with their own central banks and fiat currencies are always solvent in their own currency, and there is even a case for limited Overt Monetary Financing (OMF) (or what is commonly called central bank “money printing” to finance some government spending).

(3) A fundamentally important policy to attain full employment is an MMT Job Guarantee. This is a program in which the government will offer employment to anyone ready and willing to work (but unable to find a private sector job) at a socially-acceptable minimum wage to ensure real full employment at all times.

(4) Governments should generally pursue sensible protectionism and industrial policy not only to protect their manufacturing sectors from the disaster of free trade under absolute advantage but as the best strategy to ensure future economic growth and economic independence.

(5) Governments should reject privatization of social services and infrastructure. Instead, these sectors should be nationalized or run as public utilities and maintained by high government investment, e.g., in health care, education, scientific and technological R&D, infrastructure, etc. There is now even a case for limited nationalization of certain key industries as an industrial policy.

(6) Foreign ownership of public assets, infrastructure, key industries and large-scale foreign ownership of real estate should also be strongly rejected, and instead these sectors should be owned by private domestic citizens, and things like infrastructure should be owned by governments.

(7) The banking and financial sector should be subject to severe regulation and prevented from destabilizing the economy given its tendency to create asset bubbles and inflating the level of private debt to catastrophic levels. There is now a case for nationalization of the commercial banking sector. For many nations, there is a case for discretionary capital controls (see here).

(8) The taxation system should be progressive but particularly concerned with taxing parasitic rent seeking and destabilizing speculative activity.

Social and Cultural Issues

(1) The Alt Left should support reasonable and sensible civil and equity,  women’s rights and gay rights, but strongly reject French Poststructuralism, Postmodernism, truth relativism, cultural relativism, moral relativism, SJW cults, divisive and extreme identity politics, Third Wave Feminism, and endless cults of victimology from Identity Politics. The combination of all these ideas has created a toxic wing of the modern Left called the “Regressive Left,” which needs to be totally rejected.

The Alt Left should also reject extreme social constructivism and the “blank slate” view of human beings because this is not supported by science.

(2) The Alt Left should strongly defend free speech and freedom of expression from its enemies on the Right, the Regressive Left, and from religious conservatives.

(3) The Alt Left should support a secular state and separation of church and state but not alienate liberal religious people.

(4) The Alt Left should continue the anti-imperialist tradition of the Left and be largely non-interventionist on foreign policy, but not isolationist.

(5) The Alt Left should oppose regressive and illiberal Islamism and religious fundamentalism and promote the assimilation of immigrants in the West.

(6) The Alt Left needs a sane and pragmatic policy on immigration. It needs to reject mass immigration and open borders on economic, social and cultural grounds and support sensible limits on immigration. It also needs to recognize that promoting “diversity” is not necessarily a good thing in and of itself and that multiculturalism has serious problems (see here).

(7) The Alt Left should consider the importance of the nuclear family, promote pro-nuclear family policies and – at the very least – be open to serious and rational discussion of the breakdown of the nuclear family in the Western world and what harm this may have done to our societies but with humane policies free from right-wing viciousness or free market economics.

As a further point of interest, there is an interesting post over at the Samizdat blog on the various subgroups of the Alt Left here.

He divides the Alt Left or the people who are receptive to it into these categories (I have added numbers for clarity):

(1) “The Left Wing of the Alt Right” – Rabbit uses this phrase quite explicitly. They are most open to race realism and most opposed to mass immigration and Islamism but are also inclined towards some kind of economic socialism or social democracy and are otherwise put off the Alt-Right somehow or other. Strasserites might be a more explicitly national socialist variant of this, and National Bolshevism would be even more out there still. Left wing nationalism would be a softer variant of this.

(2) “Gamergate Leftists” – Named from an article I read a while back claiming that most Gamergaters were left-leaning, these are another type. These types need not be big on Gamergate per-se (the more I studied Gamergate personally, the more lost and confused I got) but being anti-feminist (at least against the kind of PC feminist theory you’d find in a women’s studies class or on any left-leaning blog) and anti-SJW is huge with them as is civil and cultural libertarianism.

I found a number of these posting on anti-SJW pages. They come to the Alt-Left usually because of a belief in Leftist economics though they are usually not that far Left. Guys who believe in some regulation and a social safety net. Some too get put off by the tendency of anti-SJWs to drift into genuinely misogynistic and racist territory. Remember kids, SJW and social liberalism are not the same things. Think YouTubers like Sargon of Akkad or the Amazing Atheist, though they don’t use the term Alt-Left to describe themselves. Not yet, anyway. These kinds are defecting less from Richard Spencer and more from Milo Yiannopoluous. I used Gamergate’s colors in the design of my page’s logo and banner in an attempt to attract these types.

(3) “Red Enlightenment” – These are most passionate about rationalism, skepticism, empiricism, and in some cases, transhumanism and futurism. Generally scientifically-minded and technocratic sorts of socialists or social democrats.

(4) “True Liberals” – Antiracist and feminist supporters who think the whole thing has gotten out of hand and are concerned for the SJWs’ lifestyle puritanism and opposition to free speech. They are more pro-feminist and pro-social liberal than the Gamergaters though. “The Democratic Party of the 1990s,” someone once remarked to me when I described the Alt-Left to them, to which I replied, “There were no liberals or Leftists in the 1990’s except myself.”

(5) “Brocialists” – Socialists or social democrats with a penchant for men’s rights and anti-misandry. I seem to have drawn a number of these to my page, and a few of my moderators fall into this category. Hillary Clinton supporters have accused Bernie Sanders of using these as his base of support. Used as a pejorative by the ‘Lorettas’ of the present day Left, I’m a firm proponent that we reclaim the term.

(6) “Red Templars” – Especially and specifically anti-Islamic. We get a lot of these from Sam Harris and Bill Maher’s followings. Unlike the Left Wing of the Alt Right types, these sorts are more standard liberals otherwise.

(7) “The New Old Left” – Would dispense with race, culture and identity all together if they could and make Leftism mostly about economic Leftism. The Realist Left page and the blog Social Democracy for the 21st Century are like this. Farther left, you’d find leftypol on 8chan and some Marxist/Anarchist groups that reject IdPol. A whole separate entry could be made of the economic subtypes one might find on the Alt Left. I’ve also found a lot of labor nationalists and assorted 3rd Positionists: mutualists, distributists, market socialists, state capitalists, syndicalism and so on.

https://samizdatchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/09/sub-types-on-alternative-left.html

Group (1) doesn’t even belong on the Alt Left at all in my view: these people belong on the Alt Right. The only exception I would make is Robert Lindsay, who seems to have some pretty controversy opinions and is extremely hostile to Cultural Leftism but at least doesn’t seem motivated by Alt Right racial hatred or White Supremacism.

The big-name Gamergate Leftists seem to have a strange tendency to morph into cultural libertarians or even outright Libertarians, and I have noticed the same tendency amongst “True Liberals.” Both Sargon of Akkad and Dave Rubin, though I doubt either are aware of the Alt Left, seem to be morphing into Classical Liberals.

I am placed in the “The New Old Left” category, but the description is not right: I constantly stress the need to understand differences of culture and to reject cultural relativism as Postmodernist irrationalism. I also strongly think the Alt Left should adopt a pragmatic view that mass immigration and open borders are actually provoking a nationalist backlash in many countries. The Left should channel this into a healthy, sensible nationalism, and recognize open borders are wrong on perfectly good economic, social and cultural grounds.

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The Various Factions, Types or Wings of the Alt Left

By Ryan England, one of the main Alt Left theorists. From one of the main Alt Left groups on Facebook:

I’ve come up with colloquial expressions of subtypes I’ve noticed in my short time with this movement. Note that these are not hard fast rules or mutually exclusive categories but rather descriptions of what seem to be motivating passions. Some perhaps approximate the Alt-Leftist ideal better than others:

“The Left Wing of the Alt Right” – Rabbit uses this phrase quite explicitly. They are most open to race realism and most opposed to mass immigration and Islamism but are also inclined towards some kind of economic socialism or social democracy and are otherwise put off the Alt-Right somehow or other. “Strasserites” might be a more explicitly national socialist variant of this, and “National Bolsheviks” would be even more out there still.

“Gamergate Leftists” – Named from an article I read a while back claiming that most Gamergaters were left-leaning, these are another type. These types need not be big on GamerGate per se, but being anti-feminist and anti-SJW is huge with them as is civil and cultural libertarianism. I found a number of these posting on anti-SJW pages. They come to the Alt-Left either because of a belief in Leftist economics, though they are usually not that far Left.

Guys who believe in some regulation and a social safety net. Think YouTubers like Sargon of Akkad or the Amazing Atheist, though they don’t use the term Alt-Left to describe themselves. These kinds are defecting less from Richard Spencer and more from Milo Yiannopoluous. I used Gamergate’s colors in the design of my page’s logo and banner in an attempt to attract these types.

“Red Enlightenment” – These are most passionate about rationalism, skepticism, empiricism and in some cases, transhumanism and futurism. Generally scientifically minded and technocratic sorts of socialists or social democrats.

“True Liberals” – Antiracist and feminist supporters who think the whole thing has gotten out of hand and are concerned for the SJW’s lifestyle puritanism and opposition to free speech. They are more pro-feminist and pro-social liberal than the Gamergaters though. “The Democratic Party of the 1990s,” someone once remarked to me, to which I replied, “There were no liberals or Leftists in the 1990’s except myself.”

“Brocialists” – Socialists or social democrats with a penchant for men’s rights and anti-misandry. I seem to have drawn a number of these to my page, and a few of my moderators fall into this category. Hillary Clinton supporters have accused Bernie Sanders of using these as his base of support.

“Red Templars” – Especially and specifically anti-Islamic. We get a lot of these from Sam Harris and Bill Maher’s followings. Unlike the Left Wing of the Alt Right types, these sorts are more standard liberals otherwise.

“The New Old Left” – Would dispense with race, culture and identity all together if they could and make Leftism mostly about economic Leftism. The Realist Left page and the blog Social Democracy for the 21st Century are like this. Farther left you’d find leftypol on 8chan and some Marxist/Anarchist groups that reject IdPol.

I would say that I fall into a number of those categories. Brocialist for sure. I am not sure who exactly these Brocialists even are, but anything like the original Men’s Liberation groups that arose alongside Women’s Liberation might be ok for me.

True Liberals, absolutely. It’s not that I am against the Cultural Left but more that I want to swing it back to the Cultural Left of the 1990’s, which is about when I got off the Cultural Left train because it was going badly off-course down the wrong track. I had supported the Cultural Left since the mid-1970’s. But they’ve gone too far. I signed up for liberation, not insanity.

I am also Left wing of the Alt Right, but I only support race realism and not White nationalism. I am not a Strasserite, a National Bolshevik or any sort of fash. Leftists keep calling me fash, but if that’s true, why do I hate fash so much? Every fash webpage I go to, I want to smash the screen. It doesn’t have to be a choice between the fash and the SJW’s you know. It’s quite possible that they both suck.

Gamergate guys are too misogynistic and anti-feminist for me. I am also not as culturally Libertarian as these types are. But honestly I do not know where they stand. I lot of these MRA anti-feminist types leave a bad taste in my mouth because as awful as feminists are, the anti-feminists seem to be even worse! I think they’re both insane. There is a good feminism that we on the Alt Left can work with, and these anti-feminist bros just can’t see that. In particular, we should make alliance with sex-positive feminists.

Red Englightenment types are ok, but I support religion and believe in some stuff they call woo. These people do not even do science anymore. They do scientism. And their hatred for religion really turns me off.

Red Templars are ok, but I am not obsessive about the problems of Islam, and I am more conservative than they are on social stuff.

New Old Left is ok, but the folks on leftypol call me racist and fascist. I am not sure I am going to get along with these folks. They say they are getting rid of IdPol, ok, so what’s with all the name-calling?

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Alt Left Support of Men’s Liberation – the Left Wing of the Men’s Movement

Men’s Liberation was the left wing of the MRA movement that actually came out of the various cultural revolutions of the 1960’s. Warren Farrell was a Men’s Lib type or at least he was before he went crazy. Men’s Libbers and feminists started fighting pretty quickly because the feminists were so insane and also because a lot of Men’s Libbers realized that feminism was a war against men. Men’s Libbers who wanted to go to women’s groups’ meetings and ally with them were banned, as the feminists pushed “women-only fora” and “only a woman can comment on the problems of women.”

In particular, gay men were some of the first to break off from Men’s Liberation. Men’s Lib had a reputation for being a bunch of faggots, but that while there was some truth to this because there were more gay men as a percentage of the movement than there were in society at large, that was not really true, as most Men’s Libbers were straight, although their position on male homosexuality was very stupid. The early feminists attacked gay men a lot (Isn’t that incredible?), accusing them of being the ultimate woman-haters for bailing out on women altogether. At the same time, feminist idiots were cheering on lesbianism like they always have from Day One. So lesbians were ok, but gay men were not. Screw that.

I will say though that gay men were some of the best of the early Men’s Libbers, and even today, gay men play a surprisingly important role in the left wing of the MRA’s such as the Good Men Project. Straight men have to suck up to women to get laid, so these leads to a lot of pedestalization, reality distortion and failing to see the down side of women. Gay men are estranged from women completely, so they can sit back at a distance and judge them fairly. That said, there is a faction of gay men who are very ugly misogynists, and this gay “type” has always been around.

However, most gay men do not hate women at all. They just don’t want to have sex with them. Ever known a straight women who was not some sort of a fag hag? Neither have I. Straight women always love their gay pets.

So you see the feminists have been insane for a long time. Simone Beauvoir was an extreme man-hater, and the genocidal SCUM Manifesto (a classic treatise in the feminist canon) was written in the heat of the 1960’s. The Redstockings out of Boston were one of the first hardline feminist groups. Ellen Willis was a member. They were insane, and this was 1969. Feminism didn’t go nuts, it was crazy from the beginning. That said there are some equity feminists we can ally with, and to the extent that women are still treated unfairly, we will support their causes.

There is not much left of the Men’s Libbers, but there are some leftwing men calling themselves masculisits or even masculinists. Generally, most such men are fairly sane, and most masculists also identify as feminists in a way. These are leftwing MRA’s who are also sympathetic to the problems of women. In other words, these men say that both sexes are oppressed nowadays, and furthermore, both sexes oppress each other. They argue that there are many injustices against men now too that women have turned the tables and predictably turned from oppressed to oppressors by enacting laws that oppress men. Humans can’t seem to do equality. The oppressed never want equality. They only want to turn the tables and lord it over those oppressing them and turn into oppressors themselves. Humans are rather lousy.

Men’s Lib  barely exists anymore if at all, and it should be revived. A lot of progressive men need to get on the ball. The women have turned the tables on us and are now oppressing us with a lot of new “Female Rule” type laws they put in to privilege women and attack us unfairly. They did this because feminism now is mostly just paybacks and revenge. I assume that all leftwing men are not masochists, but sometimes I wonder. If leftwing men are willing to sit back and let women abuse and oppress them, they are beyond hope. It will be hard to rouse these men though because most leftwingen are badly brainwashed by feminism.

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