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What Is Femininity and How Much of It Can Men Use?

From some kooky Tea Party/right wing populist/conspiracy nutcase site, nonetheless a good article:

Thoughtfulness – is something we see very little of these days but encompasses elements of thoughtfulness, nurturing, care and consideration. People who are thoughtful place others ahead of themselves and very rarely expect anything in return.

Beauty – In beauty there is warm softness, in some cases a slight curviness, or it can be fragile delicateness that speaks softly. It’s something that is striking, but it doesn’t strike. Beauty can be touching, mesmerizing, heart-stopping, but it’s not something that has to be forced or sold. Beauty in women exists naturally.

Vulnerability – a way for women to show they are not strong in everything, show a weakness that perhaps men can step up and assert their manliness, strength and willingness to take care of situations that women don’t have the physical strength to handle the situation. Vulnerability is not a sign of weakness but an admission that one cannot handle everything life throws at them, and a great sign of strength.

Empathy – This beautiful quality exists when a person sees someone else suffering and relates to their pain, then tries to ease their state.

Intuition- The “Gut” feeling many of us often get when something either really good, or really bad is about to happen, when we listen to it, become in tune with it, we can solve problems with our intuitive nature before they come to fruition. Many times it can feel almost psychic in nature, but in reality it’s just being in harmony with the surrounding environment.

Patience – is an even temperateness and capability of being the calm person during every storm. Patience comes with life experience and seeing our peers react in a calm confident manner.

Acceptance – accepting who one is, and every facet of our being the physical, the emotional, and the mental, without denying or pretending to be something else.

Sensuality – is the willingness to use patience, exploration and discovery to fine what really works while utilizing all that the body has to offer in regards to sexual pleasure. With sensuality, the fun is in the exploration and flirtatious foreplay.

Radiance – It’s that internal glow that shines so bright it reaches the skin’s surface and makes one’s entire aura fill a room with positive energy. Radiance is something that is acquired from taking the time to reflect on who, and what a person’s gifts here on earth, and appreciating those gifts for what they are.

A pretty good summary of the feminine ideal anyway in all of its glory. I think this is mostly correct. My remarks:

Patience – is an even temperateness and capability of being the calm person during every storm. Patience comes with life experience and seeing our peers react in a calm confident manner.

Yeah well forget that. Although I will say that a lot of women do get a lot more peaceful in this way as they get older. The female is the calm person in every storm. LOL no way Jose. Most women I know get quite emotional, depressed, anxious, angry, terrified, furious, mean, violent, contemptuous, annoyed, irritated and most certainly not the slightest bit patient whenever things start heading south. It is generally a male who exhibits calm under pressure. Men from some Asian cultures, such as older Japanese men, can be experts at this.

Intuition- The “Gut” feeling many of us often get when something either really good, or really bad is about to happen, when we listen to it, become in tune with it, we can solve problems with our intuitive nature before they come to fruition. Many times it can feel almost psychic in nature, but in reality it’s just being in harmony with the surrounding environment.

I don’t believe in precognition. Nevertheless, intuition is a form of genius in which women excel. They are not so good at logic or reason as that is the domain of the male, but they make up for it with their intuition. Intuition plus logic and reason is a great quality in man. For instance the best detectives have excellent intuition and logic/reason. That is a mind that is hard to beat.

Empathy – This beautiful quality exists when a person sees someone else suffering and relates to their pain, then tries to ease their state.

Women excel at this, of course. Men are much less empathetic. This is no doubt biological as women raise children, and men raid other tribes, kill the men and steal the women, all the while hunting dangerous mammoths. In those situations, the empathetic man is soon a dead man.

Although I do believe men can improve their empathy if they only work on it. I often get complaints from ex-girlfriends that “You don’t care. You only want one thing. You’re using me. You never call me,” and sadly, “You lack empathy.” I do not mind most of those, although the don’t care is not helpful in my relationships. The no empathy thing stings though.

I assure you that I try very hard to feel empathy for others, but I am just not very good at it. For some reason, every time I think about someone’s horrible or lousy situation, I think, “Oh well, it’s not that bad. If that happened to me, I would be able to handle it no problem.” This bothers me as it seems to minimize their problems, and the truth is that I flip out and take to bed all day defeated with much lesser stresses than the others in my life have to deal with. But no matter how hard I try to put myself in their place, there is still the matter of, “Yes but it’s not me. It’s another person.” If it’s me, it’s the end of the world; if it’s another person, it’s no big deal, and I could handle it easily although I couldn’t.

My therapist said that women are always accusing men of not caring and lacking empathy. These complaints are a dime a dozen. He said that men do have empathy, but not as much as women, and they show it in different ways than women, often experiencing it more cognitively than emotionally.

Vulnerability – a way for women to show they are not strong in everything, show a weakness that perhaps men can step up and assert their manliness, strength and willingness to take care of situations that women don’t have the physical strength to handle the situation. Vulnerability is not a sign of weakness but an admission that one cannot handle everything life throws at them, and a great sign of strength.

Sure women are vulnerable. But should men be vulnerable? I say bad idea. Sure, sometimes you have to ask for help if you really need it, but a lot of people that a man who is not handy or is asking for help is seen as a great big pussy. The more vulnerable a man is, the more problems he is going to have in life as people will see this quality as babiness, pussification, and downright unmasculine.

Pity the obviously vulnerable man. Other men will sneer, mock or suppress a cruel laugh. Women themselves have a lot contempt for him. God help the seriously depressed man. Women will give him way more crap than men will. Past a certain age, all men know what it means to be sad. Women see a depressed man, and they want to kick his ass.

Sensuality – is the willingness to use patience, exploration and discovery to fine what really works while utilizing all that the body has to offer in regards to sexual pleasure. With sensuality, the fun is in the exploration and flirtatious foreplay.

Sure, women are great at this. I think men could use this quality too. Women love sensuous men as lovers. They eat em like candy. No downside here.

Beauty – In beauty there is warm softness, in some cases a slight curviness, or it can be fragile delicateness that speaks softly. It’s something that is striking, but it doesn’t strike. Beauty can be touching, mesmerizing, heart-stopping, but it’s not something that has to be forced or sold. Beauty in women exists naturally.

Sure this is a part of women, but some women harden as they age, maybe go through a bad divorce and become angry middle aged women who are cynical about men. They appear hard, and whatever beauty they had is history.

Beauty is a mixed blessing for men. Sure it turns on a lot of people sexually especially if you are good-looking. Many of the most successful womanizers I knew had a certain element of feminine beauty like this about them. They slinked when they walked, had smooth movements with their limbs, sometimes looked like vulnerable little boys, spoke softly and had delicate features. Women literally could not resist these guys.

When I say mixed blessing, I mean that the more beautiful a man is, the more people are going to insist that he is homosexual or at least has some gay component. And beauty in men will attract gay men like mosquitoes in Alaska.

I think this quality if good in small doses but can quickly go too far and now you’re a fucking faggot and that’s an inane sort of unnecessary and aggravating stressful confusion for a straight man. Even very handsome men are often seen as gay simply because they are very good looking. John F. Kennedy himself remarked on this. This problem is particularly acute when a man is pretty, soft-faced, or baby-faced. Pretty boy is a double edged sword.

That fragile delicateness that speaks softly part is so not going to work unless you can turn it into a James Dean, beautiful loser, doomed bad boy, tragic outlaw sort of thing, in which case it’s Women RAID.

The vulnerable little boy thing is good and if you do it right, it’s a lady slayer. Embarrassing secret: I often play little boy-Mommy with girlfriends when I get up in the morning. “Mooooom can I have some bweckfast?” with an expectant pout. Then Mommy cooks her little six year old son breakfast and makes him all happy and full. It sounds asinine but it goes over great with most girlfriends, and they love it and think it is hilarious.

But mostly fragile delicateness is just going to look pussy. You need to watch it with that one.

Thoughtfulness – is something we see very little of these days but encompasses elements of thoughtfulness, nurturing, care and consideration. People who are thoughtful place others ahead of themselves and very rarely expect anything in return.

Women are superb at this as nature has selected for it as an essential component of mothering. The maternal quality is hardwired in most females, even the childless ones in their 40’s and 50’s who say they hate kids. It’s not true, but some of them have turned their dogs or cats into surrogate children.

Men just are not good at this at all. I don’t see anything wrong with a man being thoughtful in this way, but it doesn’t come naturally, and the guys that are “good” at it are often Omega wussy manginas friendzoned by the female planet who suffer masochistically while their woman friends use them as sounding boards and crying shoulders. This is a very lame wussy thing to get into, and most men like this are pathetic. If this is the way you are stumbling through life right now, get out. Not now. Yesterday.

Acceptance – accepting who one is, and every facet of our being the physical, the emotional, and the mental, without denying or pretending to be something else.

I am not sure if any women ever accept themselves. Men are a lot better tat this than women are because frankly a lot of them simply do not care. Not caring has its downside, but if you don’t give a damn, you usually won’t find yourself lacking.

Women are usually dissatisfied with one or more aspects of themselves, typically their bodies. Even women in their 40’s and 50’s are still pretty crazy and insecure over their bodies. Of course all young women are in a permanent state of body insecurity. That is one of the defining features of a young woman. Woman of all ages are masters of denial as this is one of their favorite defenses, often utilized to the point of sheer blindness, in which they find some odd peace being lost in total darkness.

I do not think women accept themselves emotionally either as they are often undergoing some sort of anxiety/depression minor emotional troubles, that is when they are not out and out suicidal or at wit’s end. By the time a women reach 70, almost all of them will have experienced at least one major depression and will have been seriously suicidal.

By the time a woman reaches 55, a stunning number of them will have made a suicide attempt. Fortunately most women’s suicide attempts are just cries for help and are are done in that typical histrionic, theatrical mode that females excel at. That is, they are not serious. They are trying to get attention. People scoff at these fake attempts as pussy, but men are much more logical, rational and successful at suicide so maybe this is one time it is better to wuss out, make a scene and act like a girl. At least you’ll be alive when you wake up. Men use guns, women use pills. This is one case where male efficiency and practicality is a bad idea.

Interestingly, gay men also excel at these histrionic fake suicide attempts. Don’t believe the lies Gay Identity Politics tells about the gay suicide rate/ teen gay suicide rate. Neither do do it any more than straight. They just make a lot more attempts.

Radiance – It’s that internal glow that shines so bright it reaches the skin’s surface and makes one’s entire aura fill a room with positive energy. Radiance is something that is acquired from taking the time to reflect on who, and what a person’s gifts here on earth, and appreciating those gifts for what they are.

This is a nice one, and women can be pretty good at this as they are in touch with this sort of positive feeling. Many men probably shut this glorious feeling down in their 20’s at the same time they were shutting down all their bad feelings, and as we get older and chronically serious and “adult,” we are not good at this anymore. But teenage boys and young men can often have this innocent, Jesus-like quality.

I don’t see anything wrong with men doing this, but you can get into trouble for smiling too much. As a young man I was always smiling, and other young men who saw themselves as “adult” seemed to get quite annoyed by it. The idea is that a man who is smiling all the time is somehow ridiculous, not manly or serious or is still a teenager. Grow up, idiot!

Personally, I love nothing better than to see the uncommon man, often older, with a smile of pure blissed out LSD like peace shimmering across his placid face. Peace is yours for the taking.

I doubt if women care if you smile all the the time, and an extremely calm man who appears to have near total peace of mind at the time is quite attractive with women who are so often in a state of emotional turmoil and roiling seas.

I do not think a man can go wrong with this one, but it is a bit hard to achieve because life is often pretty painful and shitty, and it’s hard enough to drag yourself out in the morning, resist the urge to kill yourself, and determinedly march into a new quotidian speed-bump. That takes up enough energy for many men, and there is not much left over to imitate the Buddha. If you manage to achieve this though, good for you, as the world that unfolds when you have achieved substantial peace of mind is as gorgeous as this life gets. Savor it, hang onto it, thank your lucky stars. You are one of the blessed ones. Go forth my son, and frown no more.

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How Gay Men Prey on Straight Men

Below, Dave’s remarks are in blockbusters. Mine follow.

Dave writes:

What is this “weirdness” you’re talking about? Gay men aren’t “sensible enough?”

If I have a gay or bi man significantly in your life to the point where I am hanging around with him either alone or as part of a group, he is going to try to fuck me at some point. 100% guarantee. Usually they will try to do this immediately.

I do not care if they are sensible or not.

Are you afraid a man might undress you with his eyes?

Well they do do that, and also if I am friends with a gay or bi man even if he is not trying to fuck me, he is going to be making regular remarks about how good-looking I am while licking his chops like the big bad wolf. I do not like this bad weirdness. And also, yes, he might be giving off a lot of gay sexual energy in my direction. I really do not like that either, as it bad weirdness.

Have you considered that might be how women feel around “masculine” straight males?

I could care less how women feel around straight males. Why should I care?

You appear very educated which makes your fear of gay men seem pretty bizarre.

It is not bizarre at all. Just about every gay man that I got to know significantly tried to fuck me or gave off some really weird intense gay sexual vibes when he was around me.

I had a gay boss once who looked at me like I was a sirloin steak, sexually harassed me and fired me when I wouldn’t suck his dick.

Two of my best friends were threatened by gay men who tried to blackmail my friends into fucking them.

Here is how the scam works: gay man offers young, good looking, single straight man a room in his place. “Hey you’re straight, I’m gay, no problem, I won’t bother you.” But that’s a lie because he is going to try to recruit/convert.

Then he may offer you a job. My friend was offered a job and a place to stay by a degenerate gay. Everything was so cool until about a month into the job when the hammer came down – degenerate gay said you either fuck me or you’re fired. My friend said I guess I am fired. Then he went home, and the hammer came down again. Degenerate gay said you either fuck me or I throw you out of this place on your ass. My friend said ok I guess I am homeless. And then he was jobless and homeless thanks to a degenerate homosexual. It was quite unnerving for me to even hear about this disturbing situation.

Another friend idiotically took a room for rent from a homosexual degenerate in West Hollywood. Same deal: “I’m gay, you’re straight, no problem, I leave you alone.” My friend lost his job. Could not pay the rent. The degenerate fag offered him a deal: you either start fucking me or I throw you out of here, and you are homeless. My friend was so freaked out by this that he came down and stayed with me in my apartment for several days. I was quite unnevered by this very weird situation myself. After several days, he left and apparently went back. I had no idea what that meant.

Later he and I went out on the town in Hollywood trying to pick up actress and model types. Of course we struck out, and we went back home. My friend offered me a couch at the place he shared with the degenerate. I woke up in the middle of the night in the living room. The bedroom was 20 feet away. From sounds and smells, I concluded my friend and the degenerate. Frankly, I think my friend was getting fucked in the ass by the degenerate but it was hard to tell as I could not see it. That was weird enough but I just figured it was a very bad dream and went back to sleep.

I woke up in the morning, and that was when the degenerate laid this totally bizarre trip on me trying to brainwash me by saying that I wasn’t really straight, I was really gay just like him, and I needed to come out of the closet and quit lying and being phony. The degenerate later used this exact same brainwash technique with my best friend, so I guess it is one of their recruitment/converting tricks they use on straight men.

That morning I lost my contact lens, and the two of them made a big faggy scene pretending to look for it and gleefully putting their hands all over my upper body, which was pretty weird. My friend was into it because by now he had been recruited/converted.

I hung out with this friend a bit afterwards, but he soon got deep into bisexuality, and I had to end the friendship because there is no way you can be friends with someone like that. For instance, my friend and his older lover used to come over to my place on the weekends with some other gay men. They were headed down to Laguna Beach for the weekend for all sorts of queery fun and games.

Ok, look, your friend comes over to your house with his older boyfriend and some other gays and says we are on our way down to Laguna for the weekend. There would be massive pressure on me to join in on the faggy fun if not on this occasion than on others. They are going to pressure you really hard.

Another time I was over at my neighbor’s place, and my friend, the neighbor and the guy downstairs, a closeted gay not really out even to himself yet, were there. Weed and booze were consumed, and soon the three guys were dancing around the living room, putting their hands all over each other, kissing each other and having all sorts of homo hedonism. I was seriously weirded out so I got as close as I could to the neighbor’s live in girlfriend from the faggery. After they were done, two of them threatened to beat me up for not joining in the queery delights. That was profoundly weird and very disturbing to me.

Later I rented an apartment in LA with a male roommate. I always thought he was straight, and he did have a strong heterosexual component for sure. Mostly he was just weird. He was one of the most nervous guys I have ever met. After living there about 5 weeks, one night he tried to fuck me which was very bad and weird. I haven’t had a male roommate since then, and I have instead lived alone. I do not want to live with male roommates anymore due to that experience.

Then there was this guy across the street who made friends with me. I never knew he was queer. He was just known as a neighborhood criminal burglar. He got out of prison and said he was clean now. I started spending some time with the guy somehow. The vibes got weird almost right away, but it took me a while to figure it out.

After a while, I put the pieces of the weird vibes together and it was oh no not this gay nightmare again. He kept coming over and hanging out, and he gave off massive gay vibes the whole time he was around, and it was really bad weirdness. And he was always making queery suggestive remarks which is even more weird.

One day he destroyed my car’s engine, costing $800 damage. That and the constant creepy and queery innuendo and seduction attempts made me so furious that I went over to his house in broad daylight with a baseball bat and smashed his front door in. Then I walked home. The cops let me off because they hated him too just like everyone else. The next morning I was leaving for work and my neighbors came out of their houses and waved to me, cheering me on for bashing his door down because everyone hated him. I am very proud that I took that baseball bat and bashed his front door in with it. One of my best moments.

I hope you explain the really bad weirdness from having gay friends and why it is so important to know if other guys are bi/gay.

It has been my position for many years that straight men cannot be friends with bisexual or gay men. It doesn’t work. I do not see how it is even possible. As you can see from my history above, I and my friends have had quite enough trauma and bad weirdness from gay and bisexual men, and honestly I want them as far away from my life forever because frankly I have had more than enough of them for one lifetime, and I don’t feel like giving them any more chances.

I also advise all my straight male friends with regard to gay and bisexual men:

1. Do not make friends with gay or bisexual man. Don’t hang out with them. Don’t spend time with them. Don’t invite them over. Don’t go over to their place. Nothing good can come of this.

2. Never rent a room from a gay or bisexual man ever for any reason. This is a catastrophe waiting to happen. As far as having a gay roommate, I would be extremely cautious about that.

3. Be very cautious when accepting a job from a gay man where he will be your boss. He may well sexually harass you.

4. In general, just stay as far away from gay and bisexual men as possible. You here, them over there. Avoid them. Nothing good can ever come of any significant contact with these men.

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How Do Women Really Feel about Effeminate and Non-macho Straight Men?

Beatrix wrote:

I suppose it depends on what you define as effeminate. If my husband were some knuckle dragging, overbearing, loud mouth, obnoxious jock with questionable hygiene – I doubt I’d be attracted to him either.

Would I date an effeminate man?
Yes.

Would I marry an effeminate man?
Yes.

Though your husband is probably not effeminate, would you be happy if he changed his behavior tomorrow and started acting effeminate?

If that’s what made him happy too, yes.

I would absolutely not date or marry a man I deemed stupid, nor do I like depressives.

Well that is pretty interesting. Most straight women seriously despise effeminate straight men. I mean hate them with a psychotic homophobic passion you ain’t never seen before. They don’t mind effeminate men as long as they stay on the gay side of the street, but they don’t want them in the straight world.

Not only that, but a lot of straight women have extreme hatred even for not only effeminate straight men but also straight guys who don’t act macho or stereotypically masculine. This means straight men who are not even 1% effeminate, but they are “not macho”: they are soft, soft-spoken, gentle, passive, quiet, sensitive, and often very handsome (but in a pretty way like a pretty boy) straight men. Even non-macho straight guys are constantly being accused of being gay, and I know several who got gay-bashed, one seriously enough to be hospitalized.

All of the guys like this I have known have had difficult lives, dealing with constant and annoying accusations of being gay, but also in fending off interminable attempts by gay men to recruit, convert and fuck, sexually harass or blackmail them.

Not only that, but these guys all have had a lot of problems with women. Some of them have been notorious womanizers, why I am not sure, but they were extremely good-looking. But over and over I have noticed and they have told me about problems with women. Their women often do not think they are real men, ridicule them, put them down, attack their masculinity, laugh in their faces, humiliate them, try to dominate them, and especially cuckold them by having affairs right in front of their faces as a provocation practically daring these men to kill them.

One man got married and had kids, but the last time I talked to him he told me his wife is contemptuous of him, and they never have sex anymore.

Bottom line is their women are upset that they do not act macho or stereotypically masculine and they react in all of these contemptuous ways above.

What is bizarre about this is if you ask most women, they act confused and annoyed that men make such a big deal about masculinity. “Why are you guys so hung up on that?” they ask. They act like they could care less about masculinity. In addition, many women claim they want a non-macho, sensitive, caring, gentle type guy, but they really don’t. They want a meathead caveman. They’re blind and lying to themselves, but women are always blind and practicing self-deception as this is part of female nature.

But I have found out fairly late in life that masculinity is a massive deal for huge numbers of women except they are mostly blind to it and either won’t admit it or are not even aware of it.

I encourage all straight men to act as masculine as they are comfortable with not only to scare off gays and not be accused of being gay but also so they will have more pleasant relationships with women.

If women are going to make such a massive deal out it, we need to realize its importance in our lives and do something about it.

Men really need to start taking masculinity seriously. Either you take it seriously or its going to take you seriously.

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Gaydar

Lisa FOS writes:

You are discounting ‘false negatives’ ad ‘false positives’.

The first is where you don’t pick they are GLBTI at all. You have no way of knowing how many there are.

The second is where you pick them as GLBTI but they are not. Again you have no idea how many there are.

Here is a very simple right off the top of my head probability calculation (1st order approximation). Say 95% of males are straight. Your false positive rate is 10%, that is 10% of the time you pick a male as gay and they are not. That means you incorrectly pick 10% of straight males as gay, that is 9.5% of all males.. Which is nearly double the actual number of real gay males.

Combine that with a reasonable false negative error rate and you might as well toss a coin.

Many, many GLBTI are very adept at disguise and ‘fitting in’. They may drop their guard when they are in ‘safe areas’, but the rest of the time?

I could take you to just one GLBTI pub in Melbourne. Look at all the people there, then meet them in their ‘normal’ life. The vast majority look totally ordinary and act ‘normal’. You’d be lucky to pick 10% and that is only because they have all or mostly ‘come out’. You’d pick virtually zero ‘part time’ transgendered people.

Gay males come in all shapes and sizes and ages. Some dress well, others as daggy as straight males (particularly in normal life).

So called ‘tells’, such as appearing uninterested in females are very unreliable. Some males are shy around women, some don’t want to be rude, some are in committed relationships Some, though they are sexually straight simply don’t like women, they don’t like to talk to them or spend time with them, in their mind females only exist for sex.

I haven’t been wrong yet since I got good at this around age 24. I have never yet picked out a man who was straight as gay. I have never yet picked out a gay man as straight.

I can’t necessarily figure them out right away, but I can tell after 3 weeks-2 months of close contact, say at work.

The only time I have been wrong is pegging guys as gay who also had a gf, but this guy was very gay, quite effeminate, and was very into me.

My mother said,

“Look, if you have a room full of men and a beautiful woman walks in, every single male in there from nine to ninety is going to look at her and they will look at her in a certain way. The gay man won’t even look.”

I believe she is correct. If you want to know the truth about anything, just ask an old lady.

There is a real problem with effeminate heterosexual men.
There are millions of these men in the US alone. But I only give effeminate men a ? Question Mark until I can figure them out better. I have met many effeminate heterosexual men in my life. They all got the ? Question Mark right off the bat, but after a while, I was able to figure out that they were not even 1% gay. One married one of my female relatives. He had this mode he would go into where he was faggoty as all get out. I have no idea why he did that. Maybe he was relaxing.

But after a while, I can usually sort it all out, and I label him as effeminate straight guy.

Mostly straight occasional bisexual men (incredibly common especially in men in their 20’s) are very hard to figure out as they only do gay things once in a while. It is really impossible to get them until the time they openly hit on or proposition you, which I guarantee they will do at some point if you know them long enough, though sometimes it might take 2-3 years until they proposition you.

I have worked in workplaces with closeted gay men. At any rate, they were not openly out. None of them were fooling anyone, certainly not me. One had a beautiful gf, but I think he was completely gay, as other than her, he had no interest in women.

The problem with closeted gay men is they are not celibate. Their sex drive is quite active, and many are actively having sex with guys. So they often give off a very strong sexual vibe when they are around you to say the least.

There was one guy at one workplace who was hiding pretty well, but he got phone calls at work all the time. 100% of the time, it was a man calling him up. No woman ever called him. We pegged him as gay.

Another one was my boss at a school paper. He was very good-looking, and he was hiding very well. I got to be pretty good friends with him, and he left me alone the whole time I worked there. However, a lot of us were wondering if he was a closeted gay.

One time at work, I think the drawer on his desk popped open and he leaped backwards in his chair and screamed EEEEEK like a woman seeing a mouse. He yelled like a girl! Basically that was his inner gay breaking through, and after that, we thought he was gay. A while later, I was graduating from college, and I was walking away from the ceremony with my parents, and he was following us in the background, looking at me with the expression of a starving timber wolf on his face. He would not quit following us, and it was scaring the crap out of me. I was almost having a panic attack until we got to the car. Also after that, I knew he was gay for sure.

One group that is very hard to figure are young gay males who have not even come out to themselves yet . I have known two of them. These guys are usually around ages 16-21. One thing you will notice is that they have no interest in females at all. They never talk about females ever. But you can also make friends with them pretty well, and even hang around with them and it will all be ok because generally they don’t give off gay vibes of attraction or seduction towards you. So they are not sending out sexual energy towards either males or females.

Apparently these guys are not sending out any sexual energy towards anyone. The older guy at one point came out, and I met him where he was living in an apartment with an older man. He looked happy for once, but now he was giving off strong gay vibes towards me, apparently because he was out.

One thing about gays who have not even come out to themselves yet is that they might seem unhappy. The older guy always looked worried and frequently stared out into space. They were threatening to fire him at work for scaring off customers. He was also drinking quite a bit and using drugs, mostly pot, but he especially like cocaine. I did quite a few lines with the guy myself.

Another group that is hard to figure out are people who may well be asexual. My mother worked at a community college and one of the teachers was like that. He taught math. Everyone in the office was certain he was gay, but I was not so sure. He was extremely awkward, geeky, dory, and very nervous, anxious, and shy. He never looked you in the eye. He was in his 50’s and still lived with his mother. He never looked at women, but on the other hand, he never looked at men either. He was somewhat effeminate, but my mother said he was not so much faggy as just plain weird. I suggested that he might be an asexual with no sexual interest in males or females.

One time my mother had some extra concert tickets so we went to a fancy concert (tickets were $50/each). This guy was on stage there as part of the classical music orchestra. Of course it is well known that many male classical musicians are homosexual. At intermission, I suggested that we go up and talk to him to see if he was gay or not. We went up to the stage and called him over and had a very friendly conversation with him. He was really nice but also a rather nervous. Over ten minutes he did not give off the slightest gay sexual energy in my direction. We went back to our seats and I told my Mom, “Forget it. He’s not gay.”

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Primitive Sexual Signaling in Human Beings

Lisa FOS writes:

I always get a bit skeptical about people (of any sex) claiming to being able to pick 100% of GLBTI ones. Except in some areas where there are large concentrations most GBTI people keep themselves very undercover in general society and most have become adept at hiding and fitting in. Chances are you have met a fair few GLBTI people without ever realizing it.

I can’t pick them out everywhere, but after a bit of close contact, it is often not that difficult because they usually reveal themselves to me.

Gay men are pretty easy to spot if you have a close enough interaction with them, generally a face to face interaction that lasts at least a minute or two. And any reaction more extended than that is quite simple, especially if you see them every day for a few weeks or a month or two. Most other guys can’t get it, but I can. That is because I am almost an expert at reading people. I can nearly read minds at this point.

A woman who likes men (straight or bi) during a close enough interaction with them, generally a face to face interaction that lasts at least a minute or two, gives of a sort of “heterosexual signaling”:
It says,

“Hi, I am a woman. You are a man. And I like men!”

That’s really all it says. It doesn’t even mean she likes me and it certainly doesn’t mean she wants to fuck me.

To me it simply signals that she is heterosexual.

I think I probably react this way to most females automatically, as I find myself in sort of a sexual mode with any close interaction with most females, even fat and homely ones! I do not know why I do it with fat and homely ones, but I think it is simply the fact that they are female, after all, and my mind automatically reacts to any mature female like this. The signal must look something like:

“Hi, I am a man. You are a woman. And I like women!”

Except that I never really think about it and it seems to come on almost automatically without my even being aware of it.

Now I can turn this off if I want to, and of course I do around my mother, sister and other close female relatives. Also I might do it say if I was visiting my friend and he had a beautiful girlfriend, and I did not want it to seem like I was turned on by his girlfriend. Just a matter of respect. I also might try to turn it off with very young teenage girls. They are of course a little interesting, but I can’t touch them, and I don’t even really want to. And I don’t want to have those feelings around them, so I sort of shut them down.

I have noticed that lesbians in many cases simply do not give off this basic primitive sexual signaling –

“Hi, I am a woman. You are a man. And I like men!”.

You simply don’t get that vibe, and why would they send it out anyway?

At times I get what looks like a stone wall of black ice, an icy glacier staring me in the face, a wall of sheer hate.

With others, it is not that intense, but there is a sort of “What the Hell do you want anyway?” along with stone faces and a general standoffish air. This is often in a store she is running apparently with her girlfriend, so it doesn’t seem to be good business, but maybe this stuff is so subconscious it is hard to turn off.

Other lesbians act like you are not even there.

With other lesbians, they might be friendly, but it only goes so far, and there is a bit of a distance and even hostility there, an edge, sort of like, “Sure I like you, but not like that! Don’t get any ideas!” Or at some point, your friendliness seems run up against a barrier as they throw up a wall that says, “Stop! Go no further!”

Some lesbians can be normal and friendly, but those are more likely to still have some heterosexual interest. These are usually younger ones in their early 20’s. I have recently met some lesbians aged 13-27, and they were quite friendly. Maybe the young ones are getting friendlier.

But the stone icy wall, the short hair, and breast cancer pink ribbon, and statue-like face, ok Shirley, I get the picture.

A lot of lesbians for whatever reason seem like they simply do not like men. I will leave it to others to figure out why that might be.

Some females are hard to figure out. They seem cold and lifeless, like robots. They don’t seem to give off lesbian vibes, but you can’t tell if they like men either. They don’t seem to give off any sexual energy at all. They simply seem to be cold, stony and shut-down people who are hard to figure out or get close to.

I can usually spot a gay man if I have a close enough interaction with them, generally a face to face interaction that lasts at least a minute or two. If I am working with the guy every day in office, it is trivial to figure them out. I feel like most of these guys aren’t fooling anyone. They sure aren’t fooling me.

First of all, many gay men are effeminate to one degree or another. It’s a stereotype, but it’s true. I have run across it countless times in the past, and I continue to see it to this day. A lot of straight men are not very masculine, and quite a few are out and out wimpy, but most straight men are not really effeminate in the way a gay man is. The straight men are more soft, gentle, sensitive and wimpy while the gay man tends to have more of that overt effeminacy.

Any effeminate man immediately sets off my alarm bells with me. I usually do not label them gay, and of course I would never call them that to their face. I would not even ask them if they are or not as I think that is horribly rude. Instead, I put a great big question mark by him in my brain. Then as I interact with him more and more, the question mark either fades away or strengthens to a conviction.

if I have a close enough interaction with them, generally a face to face interaction that lasts at least a minute or two, I typically get the same vibe that a woman who likes men gives off, with a variation:

“Hi, I am a man. You are a man. And I like men!”

It looks exactly the same except a man is giving it off instead of a woman. This is probably operating at such an unconscious level that he is not even aware of it.

It can escalate from there. But that is usually enough to clinch it for me.

A straight man will almost never give this vibe:

“Hi, I am a man. You are a man. And I like men!”

They just never do. Their vibe is completely different, but it is a vibe that has all sexuality completely removed from it. Straight men just don’t usually generate sexual energy towards other guys. Sometimes they do, but I might save that for another post.

If I am working with a gay man, he will usually start giving off this vibe, except a lot more intense:

“Hi, I am a man. You are a man. And I like men!”

Also he will be markedly effeminate. And if you look carefully, you will notice that even when surrounded by women, he never looks at them. I had a gay boss once, and there were all these beautiful women in the office. To him they were part of the furniture. Another man who I suspect was a closeted gay (fake bisexual) would be sitting in the room with us. A beautiful woman would walk in and he would not even look up. Women were like ghosts to him.

I haven’t spent considerable time around any gay man who has fooled me yet, but maybe I am better than others at this sort of thing.

If you think about it, this sort of thing (:

“Hi, I am a man. You are a man. And I like men!”

and

“Hi, I am a woman. You are a man. And I like men!”

along with others we have not delved into here like:

“Hi, I am a man. You are a woman. And I like women!”

and

“Hi, I am a woman. You are a woman. And I like women!”

might be thought of as “primitive sexual signaling.” These humans are simply signaling their sexual orientation to another human upon meeting them for a nontrivial interaction. It is probably most unconscious and may well go back to cave man days. And it is logical. After all, I understand that animals, especially dogs and cats, often go through elaborate nonverbal signaling gestures when they come face to face with another of their species.

So when we are having a brief interaction of a minute or more with another human, we are probably doing more than taking care of business or shooting the breeze. We may well be signaling on a most primitive level who we are and what we like, consciously or not.

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Is Some Homophobia Acceptable?

About the title: you can go on the Net and look up definitions of homophobia and most of the examples are justified. Much homophobia is just ugly, cruel and wrong. This much is crystal clear.

However, some of the acts that are called homophobic are quite acceptable. This includes most of the acts that straight men do to avoid being called gay or to defend themselves if someone calls them gay. If that’s homophobia then all I have to say is some “homophobia” is fine with me.

Further, there are serious issues with gay rights crowd’s definition of homophobia. First of all, it ends up lassoing the vast majority of gay men by calling them homophobes. This is because the very common gay male attitude of contempt for very effeminate men (The “I hate sissies” mindset) is considered homophobic. Once you get to the point where your homophobia definition covers 75% of gay men themselves, I think you have a problem with your daffynition.

Lisa FOS writes: Beating up another, more obvious homosexual, makes you look ok in public, Hides you…6 months later you are having sex with each other

The GLBTI world has been going through a terrible debate within itself for many years now about ‘outing’ people. The consensus is it is a bad thing, and people should ‘out’ themselves if they want and only if they want. But, there are exceptions, if there is someone important (preacher, politician, etc) that endlessly attacks gays.while having sex wth them…then they should be outed.

I agree wth that. I do love it when some British lord, US preacher or politician who endlessly hammer gays gets outed. They deserve it.

So some ‘homophobics’ (lesiabianphobicis, TGphobics and all the rest) are themselves, at least to a point, attracted to it.

It comes down to time and interest, people concentrate on what is important to them, if you don’t give a shit, then you think nothing of it, there are 50,000 things more important to you (like the latest cricket scores).

So why does a ‘homophobic’ go on and on and on about it?

I have some problems with this. Islamophobes really want to be Muslims? Black haters really want to be Black? Sexist men really love women? Fox News types are closet liberals? Communists are really secret capitalist pigs?

I do not know, but reaction formation is a known psychological mechanism. A study was done on college students recently. A number of men were located who were always going on and on about other people being messy. Neat freaks. Prigs. Whatever. The study then inspected the rooms of these neat freak pesterers and found that the students who complained most about others being messy tended to have the messiest rooms while those who did not complain much had cleaner rooms.

Denial and projection in action. Projection is a very common defense and people use it constantly. You project off things you do not like or want in yourself, such as guilt, or anything really, onto other people and that way you do not have to deal with the problem because it is not yours, it is someone else’s.

There are indeed some very loudmouthed homophobes who have later been outed for having sex with men. It doesn’t work that way with women.

I suppose you have to wonder about some extreme homophobe who is yelling about it a lot. Why are they screaming about it so much?

Most straight guys are seriously homophobic – it is simply normal to them – but in general they are pretty quiet about it. Nowadays most guys accused of being homophobes are these quiet types exhibiting “normal homophobia,” and I do not think many of them are gay. And in my life, I found that strong acceptance of male homosexuality in a straight man correlated much more with later bisexual activity that strong condemnation of it.

I grew up on the beach with macho, hardass surfers. You are on the beach with a lot of the handsomest males on Earth who are hardly wearing any clothes. And you are often changing into and out of swim trunks so you are exposed a lot of nudity, often very good looking males once again. The only way to make a scene like that go smoothly is to completely ban homosexual activity, vibes or even thinking to be honest. In an environment like that, once you let that genie out of the bottle, things are going to get very uncomfortable very fast.

Despite the fact that this scene was probably a gay man’s idea of Heaven, among that crowd, homosexuality was never discussed. If it was ever brought up, people would look at you suspiciously, like “Why in the Hell are you bringing up the unmentionable? Are you a fag yourself?” The general rule was you did not look at other guys. If guys are changing around you, you look the other way. You never look at them at all. If you look at them too much, you’re a fag, and people will soon start spreading rumors about you, and then everyone will disassociate themselves from you.

Now the gays say that avoiding look at naked guys and having a taboo on gay talk is supposedly homophobic, but I thought it was great. It kept everyone in line and enabled the whole surf scene to be very smooth and low stress.

I never knew one gay or even bisexual surfer the whole time I hung out with these guys. Certainly no one was out.

And no one at my high school was out either. I can’t even think of anyone closeted at my high school, though one of my best friends later came out, moved to Hollywood, got AIDS, and was dead very soon. We used to hang out in the bedroom of his parents’ house getting stoned out of our brains. He never gave off gay vibes around us because he had not come out to himself yet. But when you brought up women or girls, he never wanted to talk about it. This is one thing you notice about these guys.

We also had a locker room, and we all had to shower after PE. I spent four years showering with guys, and it wasn’t very comfortable. But the rule there too was you never looked at the other guys. Sure some looking was unavoidable, but you could not linger. When you showered, you just looked straight ahead. When walking to your locker, if you saw a naked guy, you averted your eyes. I’ve never been gay, so it was no big stress for me to avoid these guys in the locker room as they didn’t excite me anyway.

But most straight men are pretty uncomfortable in a room full of naked guys. It just feels weird and creepy. And the whole scene has a “faggy” air about that really bothers straight guys. The gays call this “homophobia,” but to me, it’s just normal.

The deal seemed to be if you looked at guys too much in the locker room, people were going to start saying stuff about you. And not too long after that, you were going to get hit. Probably punched. In the face. Most of us knew that somehow, so we just tried to avoid a punishment like that.

I must say though that I think that rule was justified as it kept us in line, was very disciplining and made the locker room experience very smooth and easy.

The thing is if there are out gay boys in that locker room who are pretty blatant about where they are at, the vibes in that locker room are going to get awful weird awful fast. So the rule is put in to keep weirdness out of the showers. Gays say that is homophobia, but it is fine with me.

Also a lot of us felt that if you violated the rule, you deserved to get hit. So, easy, just don’t break the rule.

Although I suppose it might be difficult or very weird for a gay boy have the high school shower experience.

Where I grew up, especially with the surfers, you never called another guy gay. Never. Ever. Ever.

If you called another guy gay, he had the right to punch you in the face right then and there. And there was an assumption that if you said it to the wrong guy, he might even try to kill you. Most guys seemed to think that this was justified, and if you accused someone of that wrongly, you deserved that knuckle sandwich.

And a lot of guys seemed to think that if a straight man killed a man who called him gay, this would be appropriate too, as a normal expected defense of honor. I have played along with this code most of my life, and I almost never ask another man if he is gay, mostly because in my opinion it is very rude, it is honestly a ridiculous question and number three, just asking the question in the first place seems way more homophobic than not asking it.

Most gay men in my experience aren’t fooling anyone, and I can generally spot them if not at first then surely after a bit. I haven’t been fooled by one yet. Also I can generally spot if a man is straight, as these types do not give off a gay vibe when they are around you. There is sort of a “straight man to straight man” way of relating and conversing, and it is hard to describe but very easy to spot. Once you get that vibe from a man, in general he isn’t gay. But he might be bisexual as some of those men are more difficult to spot.

Gay men are trivial to spot as most of them act like they are attracted to me on some level.

It is exactly the same vibe that many women who like men give off which is, “Hi, I am a woman. And I like men!” That’s as far as it goes but most straight women definitely give off that vibe, even older ones and bitter so-called man-haters. I think even elderly women give off this vibe.

At any rate, most males do not give off this vibe when you talk to them, so when you get it, there is usually something afoot. The gay man’s message is like the woman above: “Hi I am a man. And I like men!” That is as far as it goes again, but often with me there is an added, “Hi I am a man. And I like men! And I like you, cutie!” which is rather unnerving. I do think that these responses are nearly unconscious in both males and females and are probably pretty automatic. There is probably not a good way to shut them off either.

However, I do feel that calling a straight man gay is one of the worst things you could ever say to a straight man, and most straight men seem to agree. The attitude is that this is the worst of the worst of the lowest of the lowest of the ultimately most horrible thing you could ever accuse a straight man of. Once again the gays call this homophobia, but I think it is quite rational and even normal.

And I do carry on in life with the attitude that if I call a straight man gay he has a right to punch me or maybe even kill me. Sure he will go to prison, but so what? I will be dead.

So I am very careful in what I say to any man and try very hard not to insult their honor this way. I don’t even ask obviously gay men if they are gay. One it’s rude, and two it’s an asinine rhetorical question as the answer is obvious. So why ask?Anyway these gay men have a right to privacy, and if they want to be out or not, it’s their business, and I have no right shoving it in their face by asking them such a rude question.

I think that straight men have the right to defend their honor with force. Some may think this is primitive thinking, but I think it works very well as the fear or terror of acting like a prick seems to keep most men very well-mannered. The gays say this is homophobia, but once again I think it is acceptable.

I don’t care why people act good. If they act good because they are terrorized into it, it’s fine with me. Fear can be ugly, but enough of it keeps everyone acting pretty nice if only for fear of consequences if they don’t.

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Are Homophobes Gay?

Matt writes:

I think the whole idea that many or most homophobes are actually gay comes from a certain study that found that men who expressed extremely homophobic views tended to become sexually aroused when exposed to gay stimuli as compared to less homophobic men. How good the study was, I can’t say. There is also plenty of anecdotal evidence of extreme public homophobes getting caught doing gay things, but scientifically that is worthless.

I guess some people find it emotionally satisfying to believe that homophobes are hypocrites, just as many low information thinkers continue to insist that Hitler was a Jew.

There is such a thing as reaction formation, and the extreme homophobes being caught doing gay stuff are an example of that.

However, I have some serious issues with this “homophobes are gay” theory.

We know that in Europe prior to 1800, the death penalty was enforced for male homosexuality. Men caught in the act were typically hung. This law was apparently very popular with most of the population who found such acts abhorrent. So in other words, prior to 1800 in Europe, the vast majority of European men were extreme, even homicidal homophobes. So according to this theory, during this time, the vast majority of European men were a bunch of faggots. Yeah right. I do not think so.

According to this theory, the most homophobic societies should have the highest rate of homosexuality and the least homophobic societies should have the lowest rate.

In Latin America, the males are extremely homophobic, and in a lot of countries, gay men are often beaten up, arrested or even murdered. I know Latin America pretty well, and one thing I know about Latin American men is there seems to be a low rate of opportunistic male homosexuality. There is just not a lot of male homosexuality in those countries. There is far more of it in the vastly less homophobic West.

There are plenty of other extremely homophobic countries out there, but one thing you notice about them is that they seem to have low rates of homosexuality in a lot of cases, though the Arab World is an odd case.

Also we would expect I suppose the least homophobic countries to have the lowest rates of homosexuality, but that’s not the case. The more accepting the society is of homosexuality, the more of it there is. This even works on a micro level all the way down to individual cities.

I lived, worked and played around Hollywood for years, and the rate of homosexuality there was very high. What I mean by that is that while there are many gay men, a lot of the purportedly straight men did not seem to be all that straight. I met quite a few men with wives and girlfriends seemed to have a suspiciously gay side, often closeted. The rates of what seemed to be opportunistic bisexuality in men were very high.

I finally concluded that this was because in LA, male homosexuality and bisexuality are “hip.” It is cool to be queer or bi. In other words, bisexuality is a fad in these places. I concluded based on that that when a society completely accepts homosexuality, a lot more people are going to not only accept it but also start doing it. So that is of the opposite of the “homophobes are fags” theory.

Think of all of the teenagers and young men who get thrown out of the house by their conservative parents after they find out the kid is gay. All of the fathers who throw out their son when they discover he’s gay are a bunch of secret queers? Give it up.

The “Homophobes Are Gay” Study

Yes, I have heard of the study the commenter is talking about. It appeared recently. They exposed two groups of self-described heterosexual men to probably hardcore gay porn. About 1/3 of the nonhomophobic men reacted to the stimuli, and about 2/3 of the homophobic men did. So more of the homophobic men reacted to the gay stuff. But a very high percentage of the nonhomophobic men did too.

I believe that all of men who reacted did so at a low level though.

100-0: Maximum heterosexual, minimum homosexual
90-10: Maximum heterosexual, incidental homosexual
80-20: Maximum heterosexual, significant homosexual
70-30: Maximum heterosexual, strong homosexual
60-40: Maximum heterosexual, very strong strong homosexual
50-50: Maximum heterosexual, maximal homosexual
40-60: Maximum homosexual, very strong heterosexual
30-70: Maximum homosexual, strong heterosexual
20-80: Maximum homosexual, significant heterosexual
10-90: Maximum homosexual, incidental heterosexual
0-100: Maximum homosexual, minimal heterosexual

Looking at that chart, all of the men were first tested on straight porn and all of them reacted maximally to it, and were then tested on gay porn.

I believe that all of the men in the study who reacted were reacting at a fairly low level, and most if not all were probably 90-10’s or 80-20’s, which would make sense, since most men who have bisexual interest are mostly heterosexual with a maximal attraction to females and a substantially lower attraction to males. It is also important to note that fully 50% of self-described straight men in the study were aroused, albeit at a low level, by gay porn. That’s a pretty shocking figure, but it goes along with other research showing a high percentage of albeit low level gay attraction in straight men.

The headlines said, Homophobes Are Really Gay, Study Finds. I didn’t get that at all from the study. Anyway, even if you are going to say that, keep in mind that according to this theory, the study found that 1/3 of non-homophobic men were “gay” too.

Are Homophobes Gay? My Experience

I have known a number of homophobes, including some violent ones. One of the most violent ones I have ever known was basically heterosexual. However, I knew the guy’s mother, and his Mom said she once found gay porn under his bed. But she said he also had a huge stash of straight porn too that he seemed to be a lot more interested in. I knew this idiot pretty well, and I honestly think that he was a 90-10, if that. I have no idea why he had that gay porn, but he may have had a small interest in gay stuff like so many guys. But the main thrust of his sexuality was obviously directed towards women.

I have known quite a few other guys who were strongly opposed to homosexuality. It seemed to be correlated with machismo or machoness. Most of the guys I knew who were really against homosexuality were hardcore extreme macho guys. It seemed that the more macho the guy was, the more homophobic he was.

It worked the other way too. I have known quite a few straight guys who said that homosexuality was quite all right, and they were 100% ok with it. This was correlated with being a lot less macho.

I also noticed something about a fair number of the guys who said, “Hey homosexuality is totally ok,” associated, worked with and even partied with gay men. After I had known these guys a while, they often made weird, suspicious statements like, “I do not think completely heterosexual men are normal.” Or they came onto me sexually. In the case of one guy who lived, associated and partied with gay men, he later got into bisexuality in a pretty heavy-duty way.

So I think that extreme acceptance of homosexuality in a straight man is a rather risky as a lot of them seem to go from, “Hey it’s 100% ok for other guys,” to “Why don’t I try it myself?” or “If it’s ok for other guys, then it’s ok for me too,” pretty easily.

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What Percentage of Males are Gay, Bisexual or Straight?

Lisa FOS writes:

Actually this is one of the very few things in recent decades that western society has just got a bit more grown up about, simply recognizing that sexuality (and to a much lesser extent gender) are a bit more fluid that the ‘binary’ narrative allows for.

Nothing new in this, students of past and other cultures have known this for ages.

Sexuality in particular depends on cultural context, opportunities and so on. The high rates of ‘situational’ homosexuality in prisons has been well noted for generations now. Totally ‘straight’ males and females going into prison and then having homosexual sex. When they leave they resort back to heterosexual sex…..

Read about (at least parts) of Afghani culture and the high rates of homosexuality there. Let alone the ancient Greeks (and the all so macho Spartans) and so on.

Basically if you think of a bell curve (normal distribution) at one end you will have people that will never, under any circumstances, have homosexual sex, at the other there are those who will never have any heterosexual sex. In between? Greyish. How people will swing (at least now and then) will depend on the environment around them. And then there are age and individual circumstances. John Maynard Keynes was a classic example, he was exclusively homosexual, until he met his wife who he loved dearly, then became exclusively heterosexual…

Obviously many will lean a bit more towards one end or another. and therefore their sexual ‘triggers’ in one direction or another can be more easily activated than someone at the extreme ends of the ‘distribution’.

Interesting implication of the ‘bell curve’, if sexuality is really a symmetric distribution then, allowing that estimates of exclusive homosexuality are in the region of 2-5%, then it implies that exclusive heterosexuality is in the region of 2-5%…… Just a thought.

And then there is the simple fact …everyone lies about their sexuality. I’ve seen this up close and personal, The married very straight guy who fantasies about ‘she-males’ (to use the porn term). In the transgendered world we have a lot of ‘tranny chasers’, many are married guys…..

There was a study a few years back (I’d have to chase it up) that those who were publicly the most anti-transgender showed the greatest sexual arousal by them…. In fact from my personal experience, when I come across people who are extremely anti-gay (etc) I immediately suspect them of leaning that way and they are either hiding or denying it…….

From memory, the Kinsey Report showed that a majority of US male adolescents had a few or some homosexual experiences with their peers.

It is sad that we make such a song and dance about ‘bonking’, after all it is one of great human pleasures, so who gives a shit where you get your jollies from You are going to be dead soon enough, so have some fun while you can (safely of course).

I do not agree with some of the things written above. Careful studies in the lab have shown the following:

Far more than 2-5% of males are exclusively heterosexual in orientation. More like 2/3. And it is less than 2-5% of males who are exclusively gay. It is more like the lower figure of 2%

Looking at this scale:

100-0: Maximum heterosexual, minimum homosexual
90-10: Maximum heterosexual, incidental homosexual
80-20: Maximum heterosexual, significant homosexual
70-30: Maximum heterosexual, strong homosexual
60-40: Maximum heterosexual, very strong strong homosexual
50-50: Maximum heterosexual, maximal homosexual
40-60: Maximum homosexual, very strong heterosexual
30-70: Maximum homosexual, strong heterosexual
20-80: Maximum homosexual, significant heterosexual
10-90: Maximum homosexual, incidental heterosexual
0-100: Maximum homosexual, minimal heterosexual

Based on careful lab studies:

Fully 63% of males test as 100-0 in the lab. However, an amazing 37% of males test as something other than 100-0. In other words almost 40% of males have some, albeit mostly low, attraction to other males. Incredible figure.

However, 92% of all males test of 60-40 to 100-0 in the lab. So males are overwhelmingly heterosexual in nature. This is probably the normal state of affairs in most societies. Only 6% of males range from 0-100 to 40-60. That means only 6% of males are preferentially homosexual. That is a very small number. The number of males who test 0-100 in the lab is about 2%. So 2% of males are pretty much exclusively gay. Another 4% test 10-90 to 40-60. An amazingly low 2% test 50-50 or pure bisexual. So pure bisexuals are quite rare among men, but nevertheless they are just as common as pure gays.

Something to think about is of males who have bisexual interest, 79% of them are mostly heterosexual in orientation. In other words, even when males test show some bisexual interest, the majority lean heterosexual. The implication is that most men acting or thinking bisexually are mostly straight.

I do not agree that guys who like shemales are basically gay. I do not think a gay man would be interested in a creature who looks like a female, including full breasts, except that it has a dick. A creature that looks very female and beautiful, including full breasts, yet only differs from true females in having a penis, would probably be interesting to quite a few men who lean heterosexual. Because the pre-op individual is basically a woman with a cock.

I regard the Kinsey findings as flawed. However, careful attempts to learn about male adolescent homosexually have discovered that 25% of males have had some significant homosexual experience in their teenage years. The vast majority of these males end up preferentially heterosexual.

Quite a few other mostly straight men experiment with men somewhat as adults, mostly in their 20’s. I have known a number of guys who appear to be classic, even raving, 100-0’s who told me that they had sex with men once or twice experimentally, decided they did not like it and never did it again. Most of this experimentation occurred in their 20’s and it tended to be the ” “I let a fag suck my dick,” type thing which is how they described it to me.

Many men not just in the West but in the rest of the world, only consider man on man sex to be gay if one plays the female role in the act. So getting your cock sucked or fucking a guy in the ass leaves you still straight after the encounter as you play the male role, but sucking a guy’s cock or especially getting fucked in the ass is extremely gay behavior. The former acts are looked much more positively than the latter.

Personally I am very much opposed to mostly straight men engaging in opportunistic homosexuality, but I try to be nice and forgiving and I would have to condemn some of my best friends if I were not forgiving about such a thing. However, I do feel that they have sinned. I just hope they knock it off and go back to exclusively screwing chicks.

This is because I have a very negative view of homosexuality in general. Actually if you ask most straight men, most of us feel this way. We do not like male homosexuality one bit! That’s why we won’t do it.

However, nowadays most of us make exceptions for true blue biological gay men on the basis that their homosexuality is as natural and normal for them as our heterosexuality is. In other words, they can’t help it. At least I wish nothing but the best for true blue biologically gay men and  I hope they live lives as happy and healthy as my own. I harbor no ill will towards them.

There is more to say on this topic but I will leave it at this for now.

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Every Man Has His Breaking Point

God I love this scene.

 

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Analyzing the Three Main Alpha Archetypes

From Return of Kings.

This Manosphere/PUA site is very much a mixed bag. But the utterly tragic truth of these sites is that so many of the brutal things they say about modern society, women, masculinity and male-female relationships have a tremendous amount of truth to them. The feminists and the Left laugh at these sites and mock them, but trust me, these guys are on it. Their views are not always correct, but they are walking down the path of truth all right, even if they get lost a lot along the way as everyone does. At any rate, this stuff is good to analyze with an open mind to accept what you think is valid and throw out the rest.

Most of these sites are pretty assholey. That mostly applies to the authors, who even when being assholes, are definitely telling some truths you ought to listen to. However, some of the commenters are very good men who are not necessarily buying into the asshole Manosphere/PUA project.

The Alpha – Beta – Omega thing, much derided, is in fact true to a substantial degree, and it’s been going on for as long as there are humans. My own mother admits it is true, and she is a pretty old-fashioned 82 year old. I imagine my departed grandmother would admit this stuff is true too. In fact, you go about anywhere on Earth, and they will probably laugh and tell you that the Alpha – Beta – Omega theory has a lot of validity. It is only modern PC culture that insists it is 100% lies.

But that is what PC does.

PC says that all of the ancient wisdom of mankind accumulated over centuries to millennia is lies. Everything your mother and grandmother told you was wrong. All of the wisdom of the ancients is wrong. Why is it wrong? Because it hurts the feelings of some PC Identity Politics protected class and because it doesn’t fit in with the utopian way the PC folks think the world really is like or maybe ought to be like. Apparently PC is a War on Truth. It is a War on Timeless Wisdom. It is a War on Everything You Always Knew Was True. It is a War on Human Nature. It is a War on Everything Your Grandma Told You Was True.

PC displays the same contempt for the truth and facts that the Republican Party does. PC has a lot more in common with Fox News than PC folks want to admit.

The rule of PC is, “If it hurts someone’s feelings, then it’s not true.”

Sorry. Homey don’t play that. And Mother Nature bats last. Social engineering only goes so far until it runs into a Wall of Instinct. Good luck scaling that sheer, slippery face.

I didn’t talk much about the substance of the article, but feel free to throw in your two cents. I have some major issues with the whole way that the Manosphere portrays “Alphas,” but I do not have time to go into this right now.

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