A friend of mine named Yossi was recently on the Steve Harvey Show. The segment was 21 minutes long. I wonder if he is making any money off all this exposure. Yossi is the guy in the funny hat.
A friend of mine named Yossi was recently on the Steve Harvey Show. The segment was 21 minutes long. I wonder if he is making any money off all this exposure. Yossi is the guy in the funny hat.
I’m more interested in how you think women hate men. Facts, statistics, anything? A source would be great. I just feel that your input is still very opinionated. I’d also like to further my theory in the opposing side. Though, I can understand the stereotype that feminists are all hairy, lesbian, hippies. But feminism is about inequalities toward women; and sometimes that is even caused by other women.
Where did I say that women hate men? Some women hate men, but most do not. A lot of women have a certain amount of built up anger towards men, but they may also have a lot of fondness towards them too. They have mixed feelings towards men, as many of us have mixed feelings towards a lot of things.
Do feminists hate men? A lot of them sure act like they do. And it’s been this way from Day One. Many of the greatest heroes or feminism were extreme man-haters, often lesbians or lesbian-separatists. Lesbian obsession is well known in feminism. Lesbians lesbians lesbians. It goes on and on.
Yet lesbians are only 2% of women. Yet lesbianism represents far more than 2% of lesbian discourse. If feminism was not connected to lesbianism, one would assume that feminists would talk about lesbianism maybe 2% of the time, right? Yet they talk about it far more than that. This implies that lesbianism is a very important part of feminism.
And yes, many feminists are lesbians, and there are branches of feminism, such as lesbian feminism and radical feminism, that actively promote lesbianism and man-hatred. In the 1960’s there was a big movement in feminism for women to go off and form their own lesbian communities “to try to live apart from men.” These were the first lesbian separatist movements. Many women who went off and joined these communities and got involved in lesbianism later decided that was not what they liked and left those communities. Hence many of those communities sort of withered away.
I understand women very well and I have known many women in this life. I have long noted that women who call themselves feminists seem angry at men and are often man-haters. In fact, there is a linear relationship. The more of a feminist the woman is, the more of a man-hater she is. However, I do believe that there are feminists who are not man-haters.
And the loudmouths that are heterosexual? At the end of the day and they need cock like any other straight women. The more sexually active a heterosexual feminist is, the less she hates men. There is a linear relationship there too. The more she loves cock, the less she hates men. Many women who truly love cock and men explicitly reject feminism and say they are not feminists because they associate it with man-hatred, lesbianism and other things. These women’s attitude seems to be “I love men too much to be a feminist.” I run into this attitude all the time.
So there is a disconnect between feminist discourse, in which the man-hatred and contempt for masculinity and male sexuality is obvious, and the most feminists actually live their lives. When it comes to man-hatred, most feminists talk a great game but when it comes down to it at the end of the day, most of them love dick too much to truly hate men. And most women who love cock love men. I never run into a man-hater who on the other hand loves cock. I am not sure if they exist.
But feminist leadership has been heavily lesbian. There must be a reason for this odd fact. And many feminists converted to lesbianism upon getting heavily into feminism. They call themselves political lesbians. They simply turned lesbian because they hated men so much.
Most of the feminists who truly hate men seem to be lesbians. Or they have quit having sex for whatever reason.
A lifetime of experience leads me to this conclusion.
For a long time I believe the feminist line that “feminists don’t hate men.” Then I started going to a lot of feminist websites and reading a lot of feminist material. The man-hatred was so thick you could cut it with a knife. That is when I started thinking that the “feminists hate men” was not the lie that feminists say it is but instead had some validity. Sure, not all feminists are man-haters but a lot of them are. The accusation has some basis in fact.
Why is feminism so wildly obsessed with lesbianism far to the degree that they ought to be. Keep in mind that feminists logically should only talk about lesbianism 2% of the time. Yet lesbianism counts for far more than 2% in feminist discourse. One asks, “Why the lesbian obsession?” Because lesbianism, especially political lesbianism, is the ultimate in hatred and contempt for men. It is the ultimate expression of a profound hatred for males. Hence the lesbianism obsession in feminist discourse derives directly from man-hatred and from nothing else.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, of course, but I highly suggest you do some open-minded, unbiased research from both sides of your “theory”.
You’ve obviously got the anti-feminist side down, try some research from the female POV on feminism. I think you’re looking at it with the wrong idea. Feminism deals more with rape, violence, income, and media issues towards women; not a hatred of men. Many feminists have actually spoken up for male rape victims.
Not only will this further research of modern feminism make your argument more well rounded, it may give you a better look at feminism in the 21st century. Simply put, if you do proper research, people like me will take your input more seriously. Also, in your favor, this could give you more “ammo” to use against feminism with proper facts; not opinions.
Again, your opinions are completely yours; totally OK for you to have opinions. But having a more factual and well rounded argument will make it more creditable, and readable, in all honesty.
A cock-addicted feminist
I am glad to hear that there are those of you who wish to create trends with this movement that emulate its fine potential as one of the Great Human Emancipatory Movements. Certainly feminism is a multitendency movement. I wish you luck with the creation of more sane tendencies with this female human rights movement.
Feminism deals more with rape, violence, income, and media issues towards women; not a hatred of men.
Sure, of course, but a basic element of hatred for male sexuality itself is part of all of this. How do I know this? I have been reading feminist websites and material for years now. The hatred towards men is so thick you could cut it with a knife. I used to believe that feminists line that “they say we all hate men and that’s a lie!” until I started reading a lot of their stuff.
The fatal flaw of feminism is the cock addiction. Many feminists are simply addicted to dick. Those that are addicted to dick simply love men. If you love dick, you love men. They go together you know. Of course I have known many feminist cock addicts in my life and I must say that they do truly love men a lot. There is a large part of them that really loves men. There is another part of them that is mad at us, but that is true of all women. Feminist cock addicts can never really hate men all that much. They love cock and hence men too much for that. Hence there is a contradiction that results in all sorts of cognitive dissonance.
I have never known a truly cock-addicted feminist whose hatred for men ran all that deep. Perhaps they would have wanted to hate us, but that cock addiction results in a deep fondness that all of the rhetoric in the world finds difficult to penetrate.
I have known many feminists who talked a great line when it came to fear and hatred of men but when all the chips were down, they fell prey to the cock every time. Of course they have mixed feelings about us. But a strong heterosexual attraction in a female tends to result in an abiding fondness and tenderness towards men that all that feminist haranguing in the world can’t dent.
The ones who truly hate us men? I don’t think they like us or dick all that much. I have known many of these types and even unfortunately dated some of them, even extensively. They are not all lesbians; some are just supremacist, contemptuous, arrogant man-hating heterosexuals.
It is no secret that the loudest mouthed feminists of all, including many of their top leaders and heroes, were simply lesbians. Worse than that, they were the type of lesbians who really hate men as not all lesbians are serious man-haters. I refer to the Lesbian Feminist and Lesbian Separatist types. A very large number of the leading icons of feminism were Lesbian Feminists and Lesbian Separatists. This right there implies that there is something horribly wrong with this movement that claims to represent all women and instead represents less than 2% of them (lesbians are 2% of women).
I guess that’s what you call it when someone experiences emotions more intensely than usual?
To put it mildly.
It is worse than that. Borderlines are trainwrecks. Human trainwrecks. And as if that were not bad enough, many of them are simply doing it on purpose. Why? Because they like to. They like to be crazy. They enjoy it. It’s fun. It’s fun to be nuts, to go in and out of the hospital, to attempt suicide over and over, to ruin your own life and that of everyone else around you. They’re doing what they want to do. This is how they want to live their lives.
A typical day for a Borderline is a maelstrom of intense emotionality, with strong states of anxiety, depression, rage, depression, etc. alternating throughout the day, often via rapid shifts even within the hour. They are up, down, and all around and all over the place at once. The hallmark symptom of the Borderline is rage. That is why Borderlines are Human Tornadoes and most sane people try to stay clear of them. They enjoy this rage and guard it zealously.
Most Borderlines are only capable of being good for a short period of time. With one Borderline I knew, I would calculate how long she was capable of being good. Towards the end, it was down to about 8 hours. She simply could not be good beyond 8 hours. She would fall apart and start acting bad again. Another Borderline I stayed with for a while was only capable of being good for 12 hours before she would start acting bad again. She would be a monster for the first half of the day, and then turn reasonable in the second half of the day.
When I say acting bad, this is what I mean. Borderlines “act bad” in the same way that 2 year old’s do. In fact, my opinion is that Borderlines are permanently 2 years old. If the world of the narcissist can be summed up by, “And now we are six…” the Borderline will be forever a 2 year old. They honestly stopped growing right around that time.
The worst Borderlines look to me like a human shaped like a drinking glass. Picture a human being as a drinking glass. In the case of the Borderline, someone dropped the glass on the floor and it’s now shattered into 100 or 1,000 pieces. I have worked with Borderlines who seemed about that shattered. The feeling one gets is you look upwards, circle your eyes round a few times, and say, “Where do I begin?” That’s the problem with the Borderline. The glass in on the floor, broken. There are 100-1,000 pieces on the ground. The clinician looks at the mess and throws up his hands because he can’t begin to figure out how to put this human being back together again.
The worst Borderlines have split so badly that they have developed what appear to be different personalities. I have known two Borderline women who seemed to have multiple personalities. I do not think this is true Multiple Personality Disorder, the existence of which is uncertain anyway, but it would look a lot like it to anyone who is not a clinician.
You can actually see the different personalities come out to play and watch as they take over the person. The personalities come and go as the Borderline moves in and out of them, oblivious. A relationship with a Borderline is a case of “Who is home today?” You never really know who is home. You never know what sort of a mood they will be in. They are unpredictable, worse than the weather.
Certainly Borderlines are in a tremendous amount of pain. On this basis, they deserve our sympathy. The problem is that it is hard to feel sympathy for Borderlines because most of them behave horrifically. The Borderline is always right. You are always wrong. The Borderline attacks you all day long when you have done nothing at all. This is called, “Fighting back.”
Borderlines are always picking fights, but they can’t see it so they see themselves as always “fighting back.” Their victims “started it,” except that they didn’t. The Borderline’s aggression is “self-defense and fighting back” even when the victim has done nothing wrong. You cannot retaliate against a Borderline. If a Borderline attacks you 500 times and you fight back on the 501st time, that is called “aggression.”
Any sort of fighting back by the victim is reason for extreme escalation, and the Borderline then starts “firing nuclear weapons.” Borderlines are extremely observant and one very interesting thing about them is that they will be able to figure you out very well, probably better than most people have ever figured you out in their lives.
They can’t figure themselves out, but Borderlines are brilliant at understanding others. Unfortunately, they do nothing good with this and only use this soul-mining information to create databases of all of your sore points, weaknesses and Achilles Heels. The create Oracle databases out of your weak spots and any time you try to fight back against them, they start shooting nuclear weapons at your rawest nerves.
As you can imagine, this behavior is infuriating. Most of us spend most of our lives dealing with folks who may be difficult at times but in general are not infuriating. Borderlines are infuriating. They are enraging. They “try to push you to your limits.” My own view that what Borderlines are doing is called, “Trying to get murdered.” It would not surprise me if a lot of battered and murdered women were Borderlines. Victims are not always as innocent as they seem. A lot of victims of violence are actually “asking for it” and I have little sympathy for such intrepid and heedless folks. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Borderlines are often suicidal. The Borderlines that I have worked with typically had racked up 8-13 suicide attempts by age ~30. Obviously, most of these are melodramatic cries for help and attention and are not serious. Borderlines often cycle in and out of the hospital. They are often in therapy, but often little gets done there other than infuriating the therapist.
There is some evidence that some folks can sort of graduate out of Borderline behavior. There are some women who get to this point at about age 40. I am not sure how healthy they are, but they do not have BPD anymore. BPD is hard to treat because the person is so shattered, everything is everyone else’s fault, and honestly, most of them really don’t want to get better.
Oh, one more thing. Almost all Borderlines – 80% – are females. Many male Borderlines are gay or bisexual, as Borderline can simply be seen as the Female Principle run amok. Male Borderlines are very bad. They are much worse than the females. They are often violent and many can be found in jails and prisons. It is hard to believe that anyone could act worse than a female Borderline, but male Borderlines accomplish this.
If you have a Borderline woman in your life, get her out of your world. Now. Not now, yesterday. Just do it.
With the onset of feminism and the unleashing and feralization of Western females, BPD has exploded. Fully 8% of US females are BPD’s. That number has been growing in recent years. I have spoken to my mother about her generation, and while women have always been nutty, there is no way that 8% of women were BPD’s in my Mom’s generation. In contrast, most women were rather sedate and controlled as being a “crazy woman” was seen as very shameful, at least in my mother’s circle. The “crazy women” in the family, friend circle or neighborhood were whispered about in hushed tones while the others shook their heads.
It is clear to me that increasing numbers of women in the US are mentally ill. This has coincided with the modern era and in particular with feminism. My conclusion is that there is something about feminism and the modern world that is making women crazy.
There is much more to say about Borderlines, but I will just leave it at this for now.
These silly feminists don’t understand us men at all. It is odd because their whole raison de etre is all about hating us and yet they don’t have the faintest understanding of us. They have written endless documents about men and spent decades lecturing the world about us, and they don’t even have the faintest understanding of us.
As a Leftist, what makes me sad is really sad is that the only people who really understand men are conservatives. Isn’t that sad?
The Right understands men, especially the Cultural Right. The Manhattan Institute, who I despise, has written some superb articles about the Manosphere and how feminism created this whole Manosphere Backlash Nightmare in the first place. They get it. I hate them, but they got the memo.
My mother understands men. Her support for feminism is odd in such an older women (born 1932), but in her case as with so many feminists, it all boils down to revenge.
Feminism is revenge against men.
Feminism started out as equal rights but it quickly evolved into revenge as all Identity Politics groups do at some point. For instance, Black rights groups are much more motivated by revenge against Whites than equal rights for Blacks these days. This is because they have evolved beyond equal rights are now into the move towards Supremacy.
No Identity Politics group wants equal rights. But they all start out this way, and in this aspect of their evolution, they are correct and deserve and gain a lot of support. But they quickly move beyond that into revenge and the drive for supremacy.
Honestly, any Identity Politics group advocating mere equality is going to be left in the dust by the groups advocating domination and supremacy, as the latter will outcompete the former.
All women from my mother’s generation understand men. However, some of these older women are feminists. I know some of them.
These older feminists have a vengeance mindset:
Men hurt women for many years. The only way to get back to the equality of a zero state is to counter the male traditional abuse with vengeance based abuse of men.
At some possible future point, the abuses of each sex by the other will all balance out, and then we will arrive at the zero state everyone really wants, but this probably will not happen because once groups get a vengeance mindset, they seem to want to hold onto their retaliatory tactics forever. In other words, in order to sign a peace treaty and quit fighting, Identity Politics would have to admit that they are no longer victims.
However, at some point, former victims will become rulers. This is the phenomenon known as When Victims Rule. Even when victims transform into rulers, they are loath to give up their victimhood. The Jews are a classic case of When Victims Rule. The worst thing you can do to a Jew is take away his victimhood. This is a dangerous thing to do, and the Jew will do anything, possibly even kill, to retain his cherished abused status.
I don’t like the ideology of these older feminists, but they get it. Their ideology is:
Yes, women are insane, but so what? They still have a right to repress men because…:
1. Fairness (victims have a right to victimize their abusers to “balance things out”)
2. Puritanism (vengeance against male sexuality)
3. Women got their feelings hurt (vengeance for assaults)
Number 3 is especially important. If you study female psychology, you realize that the worst thing in the world is for a female to get her feelings hurt. Of course they get their feelings hurt every day of their lives, but no matter. It is still the worst of cardinal sins if you are the one who hurt her feelings.
Worse, when this ultimate sin has been committed against a woman, she has a right to use any weapons at her disposal to retaliate, so great was this crime. All the rules of war are off. Why? She got her feelings hurt.
The most base, amoral, sleazy, evil and even criminal tactics are all approved. Why? She got her feelings hurt.
That crime gives the mandate to remove all rules from the subsequent retaliation. Many women have told me that they have a right to engage in the most abusive tactics towards people they hate.
You would not believe how many women have told me that they had a right to make up complete lies about their enemies. Now this is something I will never do. There is nothing worse than false accusation. I will not do this to my worst enemy. Why should I? If he is really as evil as I say he is, I shouldn’t have to make up things about him. Right? The record of evil should speak for itself.
And if I have to make up things about my worst enemy, this implies that he was not such a bad person after all, right? If so, then why do I hate him? Why is my worst enemy a good person? What does that say about me that I make enemies out of good people? See what I am getting at?
You never make a false accusation about any human ever for any reason. I would not make up a false accusation about Hitler! Why should I? His record of evil is bad enough, why bother about making up lies about his evil when the facts should suffice?
There are other problems. If you hate someone, it is usually based on, “I am a good person and they are a bad person.” I am convinced that this what most interpersonal feuds are about. But when you make up lies about your enemies, you’re no longer on the good side of the ledger. Now you are being a bad person too. And how can a bad person attack a bad person on a good vs evil basis? See? Moral warriors must retain the high ground or lose all standing in their crusade.
Hi, I am a bad person and I want to fight this other bad person because he is evil.
Why would anyone ally with you on that basis?
And warriors need allies as otherwise wars are lonely affairs.
I would add that the women of my mother’s generation didn’t seem to like sex very much. The less women like sex, the more they want to stick it to men because of:
Women who really like to have sex with men don’t want to stick it to us very much because they figure the result will be less sex for them, and women who love men are typically cock addicts. I am serious. They are addicted. They cannot keep away from the dick. Even many feminists are like this. So one of the requirements to be a feminist jihadi is to either not like sex with men very much or to be a clueless fool, a hungry person who is eliminating their own food supply.
If you talk to any woman from a 3rd World country, they understand men implicitly.
All men from 3rd World countries understand men completely.
The guys in the Manosphere are sleazy misogynists and I hate them, but of course they understand men. They know us too well, and this is part of the problem with that movement.
Traditional society has always understood men.
But feminists don’t even get us at all.
Ridiculous or what?
In case you are wondering what it means, all of the present commenters on the site are “cis.” We had one oddbody weirdo, but thank the Lord he left and took all of his endless strands of trailing weirdness with him.
Way to go feminists. Thanks a lot, political gays. Thanks for nothing, Cultural Left Freakshow.
The Cultural Left – whittling away at the concept of normal one day at a time. Honestly, I think the Cultural Left actually hates that word and the hate the very idea and concept. I am certain that they want to eliminate that word from our discourse altogether. The Cultural Left probably considers the word “normal” to be on a par with “nigger.”