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The East Area Rapist – Original Night Stalker – Golden State Killer Has Been Arrested

Note: EAR-ONS, the East Area Rapist-Original Night Stalker, now known as the Golden State Killer, has finally been arrested due to a DNA hit. He was arrested at the Citrus Heights home he had been living in for the last 38 years. He was committing homicides during six of those years – from 1980-1986. This is also the time that his first and second daughters were born.

He was found due to a DNA hit. He was not turned in by his family, nor was he found due to a tip. LE had only been looking at him in the last six days. The put him under surveillance and obtained two discarded samples of his DNA. This usually means he drank something somewhere and then tossed the container. The best sample was found when he was shopping at a local hardware store.

He was taken into custody without incident. He is talking. He has admitted to also being the Visalia Ransacker, which was always a theory of mine. When taken into custody, he protested, “But I lived a good life. I threw him out long ago.” The reference is to his killer alter ego. Many killers have killer alter egos who reside in them like a second personality. Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy and many others had these killer alter egos inside of them. The killers often addressed the killer alters as if they were another personality residing in the killer.

His name is Joseph DeAngelo and he is a former police officer. He worked for the Exeter Police Department from 197 3-1975. He was ransacking homes as the Visalia Ransacker the entire time. Finally he was nearly caught after burglarizing a home. He shot out a flashlight of a detective who was pursuing him. This detective worked in Visalia, a short drive away from where DeAngelo was working in Exeter at the time. The risk of being caught was too great.

It was after this incident that he left the police department, moved to another area and changed his appearance by losing a lot of weight. He then moved to the Sacramento area where he worked for the Auburn Police Department from 1976-1979. He was raping women as the East Area Rapist right in the same area where he was working as a police officer the entire time.

In 1979 he was arrested for shoplighting a hammer and a can of dog repellent from a store. He used these items in his crimes. He was fired from the police force after being convicted of shoplifting. In EAR’s crimes, the dogs were usually disabled in some way or another, possibly with the dog repellent. He probably sprayed it on his body also, as people said he had an odd smell about him. Also tracking dogs acted very strange around his scent.

He often broke into homes before he raped the woman, leaving ropes and learning the layout of the home before he came back later to rape. He knew all about his victims, where they worked, the names of their husbands and boyfriends, the names of the children, everything. He had a tiny penis. He spoke through clenched teeth and breathed with deep gasping breaths. He typically wore a ski mask.

He taunted many of his victims with phone calls for years after raping them. When victims changed phone numbers, he seemed to figure it out very quickly. He cut the phone lines every time he broke in. He was an expert burglar and he spent a lot of time ransacking the homes after he raped the woman, sometimes stealing a few items. He would often prepare a meal or watch TV.

The woman or couple could hear him talking to himself much of the time, often muttering. In a number of cases, two separate voices were heard. Also, in some cases, while EAR-ONS was inside the home, doorbells rang, people pounded on doors, phones rang and people honked outside the building. This has led many to believe that he had an accomplice. The murders of the Maggiores in Sacramento in 1978 were said to have been committed by EAR-ONS and a second man who has never been identified. I believe he may well have had an accomplice.

His getting fired from the police department may have angered him because he started killing soon after that. From then on, he always murdered in every attack, never leaving anyone alive. These crimes were committed in Ventura County, Goleta, Dana Point and Irvine, all in Southern California. The stories surrounding these crimes are some of the creepiest and craziest of them all.

Neighbors described him as a rage-aholic who was angry most of the time. He was often his yard swearing and yelling. You could hear him yelling even a few houses down inside your house. He was often yelling at his girls. He got into several confrontations with neighbors – one over mowing her lawn in her backyard. He told her she was making too much noise.

People said that during his rage attacks he often seemed to be having a conversation with another person, but he was the only one there. The rage attacks finally calmed down in the last six years. Parents who lived near him would not let their kids play with his daughters because of their fathers’ behavior.

His wife claims to have divorced in 1999, but other sources say that they are still married, though they have been estranged for 19 years. The wife is a local attorney and appears to be a real piece of work herself – a real nasty person. She seems to have been a perfect match for him. There is a scathing review from a former client on Yelp that leaves a damning impression of the wife.

The rest of the post is a repost from my 2012 post on the subject.

Voice recording from the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker.

His known criminal career ranged from 1976-1986, though he was also the Visalia Ransacker active in Visalia in 1974. The Ransacker also committed a homicide.

The EAR mostly just raped, but he did kill one couple who were out for a walk in the Sacramento area. The crimes began with a rape spree in the Sacramento area in 1976-78. Then he moved his area of operation to Modesto, Davis and the Bay Area for more attacks in 1978-79.

During his wild spree in the Sacramento area, community meetings were held. He apparently went to at least one of these community meetings and sat in the audience. We know this because a man spoke at the meeting and said, “What kind of man would sit back and let his wife get raped like that without doing something about it?”

Nine months later, this man and his wife were attacked in their home. The man was tied up, and the woman was bound and raped. EAR was at the meeting, and somehow he knew who the man was or he followed him home from the meeting. Creepy!

He left the Sacramento area after two composites were released of possible attackers in the killing of the couple out for a walk, so those composites are probably good. He was 18-29 years old when he started.

He may have been in the military at the time of the original rapes. He drove a dark colored VW.

His career as EAR ended when he moved to Southern California in 1979 where he turned into the Original Night Stalker and escalated to homicides of both males and females in the Santa Barbara and Irvine/Laguna Niguel area from 1979-1986. In a number of these cases, via prowling, he noticed a couple having sex. Then he quickly broke in and blitzed them while they were having sex. In these later homicides, he tied people with ligatures but removed the ligatures before he left to remove evidence. During this phase, he was ~21-~38 years old.

He was still on the loose as of 1991, when the extremely creepy voice recording recording above was made. The recording is of the suspect making a taunting call to one of his original EAR rape victims who survived. He made these calls to several of his previous victims, but this is the only one that was left on an answering machine. The drawing at the beginning of the video is how he looked in his attacks. The gritted teeth are correct because he typically spoke through gritted teeth. At the time of the phone call, he was probably ~28-~45 years old.

The EAR MO was to stalk and maybe even burglarize in the area and gain a great deal of intelligence about the victims through break-ins and prowling. He often targeted areas that had homes for sale. He probably looked at a couple of homes for sale, posing as a prospective buyer and/or a fake real estate agent.

He would later return to the area, sometimes by vehicle, sometimes on a bicycle, and sometimes on foot. Attacks were typically made next to an open area from which he could make his escape. Telephone lines were usually cut before entering. The woman was bound with special knots and raped over a period ranging over up to three hours.

During this period, she would be raped, sodomized and forced to have oral sex. He also wandered the house, eating and drinking items from the fridge. He wandered in and out of the house, eating and drinking, apparently looking for people to come home. He ransacked through the house, only taking a few items of value.

If a male was in the house, he was bound and gagged and placed on the bed face down with a plate on his back and told that if he moved, he would die. At some point, he left, but the victim often could not tell when he left because he was wandering around so much. It often took the woman half an hour or so to get free of her bonds and get help, and by that time, he was long gone.

In some cases, he was seen fleeing and pursued, but he always got away somehow. One time police saw him on a bicycle with a ski mask and pursued him, but he escaped once again.

Several composites were made, but unfortunately, they do not look much alike. The original attacks were by a young White male aged 18-25, with sandy blond hair and blue eyes, 5’11 tall, muscled but with a thin body like a swimmer. He favored military green clothing but had a wide variety of clothes that he wore. He always wore tennis shoes with a herringbone pattern. He used a new ski mask in every crime and sometimes made his own masks. He had a wide variety of handguns and knives which he used in his attacks.

He committed over 50 rapes and 13 homicides.

He was very, very good. Good at what he did that is, one of the best. One of the best at getting away with his evil crimes. He’s one sick man all right though.

This site is an excellent resource on this master criminal.

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Bruce MacArthur Case and Epidemic Sex-Related Homicide in the Gay Community

Anybody following this Bruce McArthur case? I am just hearing about it right now. It’s all over the news.

This is actually a rather common type of crime. Gay men have very high rates of hardcore BD/SM and sexual sadism is present at a high level in the gay male community (37% of gay men practice sexual sadism or masochism). They are into the really hardcore stuff too.

50% of serial killers are gay or bisexual. I think this has to do with the high rate of sexual sadism in their community.

More importantly, this guy McArthur is a gay S/M B/D freak. These murders are gay S/M, B/D sex murders. They get off on this stuff. As in, they masturbate and orgasm watching some guy being killed. Like that.

There have been quite a few of these cases of gay S/M B/D freaks engaging in S/M B/D sexually oriented murders. There have actually been gay university professors who have been convicted or tried for these crimes – the one university professor in Indiana in the Eyler case I am sure is guilty. Gay men are 1.5% of the population, but there sure are a lot of sexually oriented gay serial killers out there.

I don’t know why all these people want to mess around with sexual sadism. You’re playing with fire.

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What Happens to a Narcissist When They Are Old, Washed up, Alone, and No One Wants Them?

Answered on Quora.

I do not believe that they ever get to that point. I have known several middle aged narcissists, and I have known a couple of narcissists who made it into old age. However, these two were “pleasant narcissists” who liked me.

One guy simply had no interest whatsoever in anything you said, and he talked about himself and bragged constantly. Incidentally bit about having no interest in your words is a stark warning sign that you are dealing with serious NPD. They ask you how you are doing, they listen for 30 seconds, and then they are looking around the room, bored. Or they rudely tell you to shut up. Or they are just obviously not interested.

This man was very wealthy, and he was rather senile when I knew him. I pointed out his narcissism to others, and others, blind to these folks as most are, said he was just senile. They never stop fooling people.

Narcissists are often goodlooking, charming, and have figured out ways of making decent money. They keep enough looks, charm and money around them through most of their lives that they tend to have people around them and even close to them even into middle or old age.

All narcissists I have known were married. One narcissist, when he was not married, was one of the most wildly successful PUA womanizers I have ever met. Whatever the faults of narcissists, social failure does not seem to be one of them.

I suppose I would like to meet a narcissist like you describe because I have never heard of one.

The closest I can think of was a serial killer who I believe was a malignant narcissist. Cannot recall his name now. He may have killed in Oregon and Washington. He was alone and maybe even on Death Row. A female journalist went to interview him and said even locked into his tiny cell, he was still “that guy,” prancing around in his cell like a model on a runway. He would always be “Joe Cool” even as he walked to the electric chair.

Ted Bundy seemed to think quite highly of himself in prison, and on trial for murder, he put on quite a show. He had a coterie of female admirers who never left him, and I think he married one. Bundy was a malignant narcissist. A number of serial killers had this diagnosis. Incidentally, our current president shares this diagnosis with these serial killers.

That charm never seems to turn off, and as long as it is on, the moths will come to the narcissist’s light. Even alone in their cells for serial murder, they still think they are Gods among men. It doesn’t seem to be possible to take these people down a peg. Their self-regard, real or not, at least appears as hard as tungsten.

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Delphi Murders Update December 16, 2017

New Delphi Murders Update!

Notice: All of the really hot discussion and sleuthing on the site has headed over to the private password-protected forum, where our team of ~200 websleuths has been working on this case and has assembled a huge case against our suspect, including videos and many photographs. Instructions on how to get on the private forum.

Note to readers: People don’t understand how this site works. All of our rumors and theories are just hypotheses because few if any of them have been proven. We report the rumor or test out various hypotheses about how the murders were done, by whom and for which motive.  This is precisely what all good detectives do all the time. A classic murder case will involve detectives throwing up literally hundreds of suspects, motives, and theories before they finally settle on one or solve the crime. As soon as we report a rumor or formulate a theory, we begin trying to either falsify it or prove it. This is the scientific method. You make a hypothesis, then you set out trying to prove or disprove it. This is how all science and all detective work is done.

Delphi Murders Suspect(s) Under Surveillance by LE!

Suspect 1: In some incredible news, we can now report that a suspect (we will call him Suspect 1) either is or was under surveillance by LE as a suspect in the Delphi Murders. On September 18, we received word from an excellent source that this suspect was under surveillance as a suspect in the case. We do not know if he is still under surveillance, but he may very well be. He also may have been placed under surveillance at some point up to three months prior to September 18. So at least in September, LE had someone under surveillance as a suspect in this crime. It’s possible that they are still under surveillance, and LE may have been watching them for almost five months.

This suspect has changed residence a couple of times around the time he was under surveillance. We have no idea if this man knows was under surveillance. We know who this man is, and we have researched him intensively in recent days. We cannot tell you his name. However, I will say that he refused to give DNA. He has been interviewed twice by LE. The suspect has an alibi for the day of the crime, and he believes that LE is satisfied  with his alibi. However,  two months after he made that statement, we received a report that he was under surveillance, so it looks like LE does not buy his alibi at all. We have looked into this man’s alibi, and we believe he is lying about his alibi. I will say that this man was definitely in Delphi on the day of the crime.

Suspect 2: We just received a report that LE has identified a man who is associated with the vehicle with the paper drive-off plates that may be the VOI in the case. The report states that this man is under surveillance by LE. However, I feel that this Suspect 2 is probably the same man as Suspect 1.

Suspect 3: A new report says that a man who is well known in connection with this crime (not necessarily in a bad way) and who many have fingered as a suspect for a long time is under surveillance by LE. I do not believe that this man had anything to do with the crime, and I do not believe he is under surveillance, so I think this is a false rumor.

First Ever Photos from the Crime Scene!

Wow. We now have a shocking new development. We believe that we have finally isolated actual photos from the scene of this crime! The photos were stills taken from a video of a news station flying their news helicopter over the area of the crime shortly after the girls’ bodies were found. A pink blotch shows up first at 17:13 and later around the 18 minute mark. At 18:14, there is a flash and then you can see the pink blotch well. We took a still of this shot at 18:14 and have been working on it for some time now. One of our sleuths is a superb graphic artist and she has been doing some great work for us. She has a degree in Graphic Arts.

Upon blowing up the photo and using many filters on it, we have isolated what looks like a human body in this photo. The body appears to be lying on its back with one of its knees bent. You can see what look like two arms splayed out above the legs. The pink blotch is located above the arms. We believe that this is a photograph of the body of Abby Williams. The pink blotch is her red blouse, which has been pulled over her face and head, obscuring them.

A man named Gray Hughes who specializes in making videos about this crime has made a number of debunking videos that debunk numerous rumors and claims about the crime.

His last couple of videos are flat out wrong.

One video says that Bridge Man does not have a fanny pack. Instead it’s just a shadow.  Perhaps Hughes should consult with the FBI on that one, as the FBI said that the Bridge Man has a fanny pack.

Hughes also made a video proving that the flat object on the left leg of the Bridge Man is just the sun shining on his pants. However, we have proven via the use of filters that that object must be some actual object in his pants. In fact, it is a knife kit with three fishing knives in it.

Hughes got quite a bit of fame for debunking an earlier version of the crime scene photo. He made a video “proving” that the shots were taken a long ways away from the probable crime scene. He even fooled me on that one.

But now we know that Gray Hughes was wrong once again.

The reason we know he is wrong is because we can see actual flashes right around the area of the pink blotch. Those flashes can only be crime scene investigators photographing the crime scene. All of the flashes are in the same  place, and they are all right next to the pink blotch. In fact, we have one photo with the pink blotch and a flash both in the same still. If anything, we can prove that the pink blotch is exactly in the vicinity of the actual crime scene. This leads us to believe that this is an actual photo  of one of the victims.

We believe that the photos below are actual crime scene photographs. If you find them graphic, please do not view them, but honestly there’s not much to see other than what looks like an outline of a human body with next to no details visible.

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Original from 18:14 in the video, zoomed, with filters.

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Same photo with a warmer filter. Notice the red object and the flash of the crime scene investigator’s camera to the lower right of it.

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Our graphics editor’s finger pointing out the flash of the detective’s camera to the lower right of the pink object.

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Our graphics worker’s finger pointing out the circled object on the left (Abby Williams’ body). The circled object to the right is the flash of a detective’s camera.

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An extreme close up of what appears to be Abby Williams’ body from the crime scene. The red object is her red blouse pulled over her head. You can see what appear to be two arms extending from the upper body. You can also see what look like two legs in the lower body. The left leg is bent at the knee. The unfortunate “devil’s horns” effect produced on Abby’s head is caused by the flash of the camera reflecting off a nearby tree projected onto her covered head.

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Crime scene photo with filters added. Some things are harder to see, but the legs and even feet show up very well in this image.

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Probably the best crime scene photo of all, with added filters. You can see that the detective photographing the body is right to the right of Abby’s waist from our POV. The legs, arms, blouse, and camera flash all show up very well in this photo.

New Information!

We have a lot of new information in this post that has hardly been released anywhere, and most people have never heard of any of this, so it should be interesting to a lot of people.

More on the Vehicle of Interest in the Case!

In tbe last post on August 30, we showed you photographs of a possible VOI (Vehicle of Interest) in the case. In the interim, we have been beaten to Hell over this. There have been many calls for the owner of this vehicle to sue the website for libel, etc. The problem is that the owner of the vehicle is a rental car agency!

The VOI in the crime is said to be a late model white Dodge Dart with paper plates. A vehicle matching this description was seen at the trailhead by a witness at 3 PM on February 13, which was exactly the time that this crime was occurring. We will call this vehicle Vehicle 2, the VOI in the case.

Although we do not know this is the VOI, we believe it is. There is a record of a woman reporting the vehicle, and it has long been rumored to be the VOI in the case. According to the rumors, all vehicles at the crime scene except for this one and possibly a maroon car have been located by LE and cleared. So although we are basing our analysis on widespread rumors that this is the VOI in the case, it’s important to note that this has not yet been proven.

In addition, a white late model Dodge Dart was also seen seven miles south of Delphi at a woman’s home on the morning of the crime at about 8 AM. The woman was suspicious of the man, so she took several photographs of the vehicle. A photo from this sequence is below. We will call this vehicle Vehicle 1, the vehicle photographed that morning in Delphi.

White Dart with license #

Photo taken in the early AM seven miles south of Delphi, Indiana on 2-13-17, eight hours before the Delphi murders occurred in that same town. This white late model white Dodge Dart matches the description of the possible VOI at the crime scene, with one exception. This vehicle has normal license plates, and the VOI had paper drive-off plates. Also the two vehicles had different license numbers. The license # is written on the photo.

We have five photos of this car. This is only one of them. All photos show the vehicle and an unknown man next to the car. All photos are quite similar.

We spent a lot of time investigating this vehicle, since we had its license number. One of our sleuths has somehow learned how to do skip-tracing. I thought only the police knew how to do this, but apparently some private investigators know how to do it too. Although it took her months, she was able to do a skip trace on the license number and the vehicle above.

First of all, it is important to note the differences between the two otherwise identical vehicles. The vehicle seen seven miles south of Delphi had normal license plates on it. The VOI at the crime scene had paper drive-off plates on it. Each plate had a different license number, although the vehicles were otherwise identical. However, our sleuth was somehow able to discover the license number on the paper plates of the VOI. How she figured this out, I have no idea. So we now have the license number of the VOI in the case.

The license number of Vehicle 1 seen seven miles south of Delphi that morning was traced by our skip tracer. She traced it back to a white late model Dodge Dart on a rental car lot, so the vehicle in the photo is a rental. She also learned the name of the man who had rented out the vehicle in the photo that day. To our stunned surprise, the man who rented out Vehicle 1 is a known suspect in the Delphi Murders! Now we do not know that the man in the photo is the same man as the suspect who rented the car that day. There are problems with the description. However, I believe that the man in the photo is indeed the suspect who rented that vehicle that day. We were not able to obtain the name of the rental car agency because the sleuth would not give it to us.

Now this is fantastic information, as it places a known suspect via a photograph near Delphi on the morning of the murders driving a vehicle that exactly resembles the VOI in the crime! However, here is where we run into problems.

Somehow the sleuth obtained the license number of the VOI with the paper plates seen at the scene that day. These paper drive-off plates went back to a late model white Dodge Dart on a dealership lot. We were not able to get any more information from the sleuth regarding the name of the dealership, whether the car had been sold or not, etc.

Here is where the problem is.

According to the sleuth, since the two license plates do not match, we are talking about two different vehicles. In other words, there were two late model white Dodge Darts in Delphi that day, each with a different license plate. Although this seems hard to believe, this is exactly where the evidence leads us. The sleuth feels that the suspect is ruled out because the plate on the vehicle he rented that day does not match the plate on the vehicle at the crime scene. Further, one set was real plates and the other set was paper plates.

This would indeed seem to rule out the suspect, except for one thing.

How about a theory?

This theory suggests that the author of this crime is extremely crafty, nearly a master criminal who planned this crime perfectly.

According to this theory, the man in the photo above is indeed our suspect, and he did indeed rent the vehicle in the photo that day. However, he was also very, very smart. He knew he was going to rent a white late model Dodge Dart that day. So he went to a dealership and found another late model Dodge Dart and stole the paper plates off of it. On the day of the crime, he rented the car in the photo above, but he also carried the paper plates. So in that photo above, he would have the paper plates on him somewhere in that vehicle.

Just before the crime, he switched out the plates on the car, replacing the rental plates with the paper drive-off plates.

Paper plates are hard to remember because they have 10 letters, so some criminals prefer them for crimes. They put the paper plates on to do the crime and then discard them after the crime is done. We have been told that meth dealers in the area use rental cars and paper plates in exactly this same manner.

The suspect then committed the crime using the paper plates so he could not be linked to the VOI at the crime scene. Our sleuth felt that the suspect did not do this because she thought he was not smart enough. However, I believe the man who did this crime was a master criminal, and I also believe that the suspect above is indeed crafty enough to do something like that.

So there you have it. A suspect has been linked to a car matching the VOI at the scene, but crucially, the license plates do not match, so legally he cannot be linked to the VOI at the crime scene. If the suspect did this, it was brilliant thinking.

I do not know who did this crime. At one time I thought I did, but now I am not sure. Of course I have a favorite suspect, but I don’t know if he did the crime or not.

More New Information!

We have just received a lot of new information about the witnesses in this case.

There were at least five people who saw Bridge Man at the scene that day. Two of them were men in their 20’s, and one was an older woman.

Bridge Man was seen on the trail at 2 PM heading towards the bridge and again at 3:15 leaving the area, heading towards Freedom Bridge, which is where he seems to have parked his car. Freedom Bridge over Highway 25 gives you access to the Monon High Trail.

In both cases, witnesses said that Bridge Man’s face was obscured by a white scarf!

You would think that when he was seen at 3:15, he would have been covered with blood. At the very least, his jeans should have been wet because he definitely waded that creek with the girls six minutes after they were abducted. But we heard nothing from the witnesses indicating that his clothes were wet or bloody.

The witness named Cheyenne was at the bridge at 3 PM. There have been many questions about her, with some suggesting that she was in on the crime and others wondering why she didn’t hear anything. She sent us a very nasty email, but aside from that, she has cooperated with LE from the very start. Also, if she was there at 3 PM, the crime was just about over by that point, as the girls were first abducted at ~2:20 PM and the crime was probably over by 3 PM. I do not believe that this Cheyenne had anything to do with this crime.

Derrick German, Libby’s father, arrived at the scene at 3:12 and began calling the girls. At that time, Bridge Man would have been almost to his vehicle, and the crime would have been over by at least 12 minutes. I do not believe that Derrick German had anything to do with this crime.

There is a new report that LE has a suspect in this crime, and they also have a motive. I have heard who the suspect is, and I also heard the motive. I do not believe that this man had anything to do with this crime, and I doubt this motive, as I believe it is premised on a falsehood.

There is a new rumor that based on the voices on the tape, LE is looking at three suspects in these murders. I have no idea if this rumor is true or not, as I have no idea if there was one or more than one perpetrator of this crime. There seems to be good evidence for both a single actor and more than one killer, but they cannot both be true. So I am uncertain if there was one killer or more than one.

There is a rumor that Libby was disemboweled. Fortunately, I can now confirm that this is absolutely not true.

There has long been a rumor that the girls were impaled with stakes or bunches of sticks. A couple of the sources of these rumors were very good. However, based on new information, we do not believe that the girls were impaled with stakes or branches unless these wooden objects were removed from their bodies soon after the crime, which I find dubious. Right now, we think that it is probably quite unlikely that the girls were impaled with sticks. Well, that’s good!

We have been bashed to Hell and back over a rumor stemming from the very earliest days that one of the girls was pregnant. There were also theories that said that this pregnancy was a reason for the crimes. We abandoned the theory about a hillbilly abortion performed in the Mears barn a long time ago. Also it is absolutely not true that the Mears have been put through Hell due to the barn theory, and we have never accused them of being involved in this crime. These are just two of the lies that people are telling about us. While there was good reason to believe that the barn was involved, that theory looks dead now. We are still getting bashed to Hell and back over the barn and abortion theory, even though we junked it many months ago.

Anyway, I am very happy to report that we can finally apparently falsify the pregnancy rumors. We have been desperately trying to falsify this theory for months now, but no one would come forward and falsify it. For the record, we have been reporting this rumor as “unproven” for many months now, but the haters just keep bashing away regardless. Via Becky Patty, who I thank very much, we can now finally report that apparently neither girl was pregnant. Now how Becky knows this, I have no idea. But for now, I think we should take her word for it.

Just in time, soon after we falsified the pregnancy theory, it sprung up again among locals, this time much more elaborated. This goes to show you that this theory never came from us in the first place. This was simply a very hot theory that was zipping around the area, and we reported it. Of course we didn’t make it up. Now you see that even after we abandoned it, it starts right back up again, so that shows you we have no control over it. I am not even going to give you the details about the new pregnancy theory or who it involves. For right now, I think I will defer to Becky Patty’s denial and report this new pregnancy rumor as apparently a false rumor.

We have some superb sources now, and we are working very hard on solving this pregnancy theory definitively one way or another once and for all.

We long since abandoned a theory that the girls were transported in a vehicle. We are still getting bashed to high heaven for this theory, even though we trashed it months ago.

Becky Patty has debunked several rumors for us, and we thank her so much for that. These rumors are:

  • The girls had a letter, possibly the letter K, carved on them. Not true.
  • The girls had a small amount of change stolen from them. Not true.
  • The girls had some jewelry stolen from them. Not true.
  • A backpack was stolen from Abby. Not true.
  • The girls were sexually assaulted or raped. Apparently not true.
  • The girls’ fingernails were torn off. Not true.
  • Libby sent a text message to Mike Patty at some point around the time of the crime. Not true.

New Theories!

We also have some new theories about the crime.

One theory is about how this horrible crime was committed, along with girls screaming, and no one heard the noise, even though there were a few people in the area at the time.

Via one of our excellent sleuths:

I’ll preface this by saying I believe the girls were killed where they were found and BG left via the cemetery.

I studied the topographical map of Deer Creek as J. suggested, Thanks J.!

The area where the girls were found is more or less within a steep valley with cliffs, about 80’ from creek to top. Sound travels outward in waves from its origin. Much of surrounding cliffs were covered with barren trees, undergrowth, deadfall, and soil -all pretty good sound-absorbing materials. The openings where the sound could escape are straight up, to the east through the creek valley or to the west around a bend toward the bridge. That day the wind was coming from the WSW at between 7 and 21 mph. When the wind gusts, Deer Creek Valley becomes a wind tunnel from W to E impeding the scream waves, pushing them east away from the bridge and away from any witnesses.

This is something an experienced hunter might know, or something a operator would learn in Special Forces School. BG is a hunter-killer who knows this land like the back of his bloody hand.

Another theory revolves around the catfishing theory. Although initially we thought that the girls were catfished, we dropped that theory down to unproven not long afterwards which is where it remains. Nevertheless we are still getting bashed to Hell and back for supposedly promoting the catfishing theory.

There is some evidence for the catfishing theory – for instance, in the first few days after the crime, family members were openly wondering if the girls were catfished.

A detective made a remark that families should watch what their children are doing on social media.

And a source reported that his friend, a Delphi police officer, told him that the girls were definitely catfished. Nevertheless, second hand reports from LE to us have gone belly up a number of times in the past, so this hearsay is not probative. It’s interesting but not probative.

There are many serious problems with the catfishing  theory, mostly that a digital trail might well have been left behind. Excellent rejoinders to the catfishing theory can be found on the Delphi Murders Reddit and other places. We regard these rejoinders as excellent evidence against the catfishing theory.

Nevertheless, there is another theory that accommodates the catfishing  theory well without being precisely a catfishing theory. This implies that the killer watched the girls’ digital footsteps and planned his crime knowing what they were up to that day.

One theory here is that the girls were geocaching. As a matter of fact, we have uncovered evidence proving that both girls were geocaching all around the area in the few days before the crime.

At least Libby German was an avid geocacher, and Abby may have been a geocaching fan herself. And most spectacularly of all, we believe that the girls were geocaching when this crime took place. We believe this because they had been geocaching all around the area at the time, and there was in fact a geocache by the Monon High Bridge on the day of the crime! Even more spectacularly, the geocache was located right off the end of the south end of the bridge, which is  precisely where the girls were abducted. Now how the killer figured out that the girls were geocaching that day, if he did at all, we do not know. However, we think that LE should look into the geocaching angle of this crime.

People are wondering what my opinion of Daniel Nations is. I do not believe that he was involved in this crime. I never believed that. However, some of our sleuths still believe that he did it.

Clearing up Endless Lies about This Site

 

We have been accused of peddling theories that we abandoned long ago.

  • The pregnancy and catfishing theories were relegated to unproven many months ago.
  • We never accused any family members of the girls or their boyfriends of anything.
  • The hillbilly abortion theory was dropped long ago.
  • The Mears Barn theory has been dead forever now.
  • The theory that a second car was used to transport the girls was dropped a long time ago.

Another lie going around about us is that we started a rumor about Ivan Brumbaugh finding the bodies and contaminating them with his DNA. We never started any such rumor, and I never believed the Ivan Brumbaugh theory, though a lot of people on my site did. That theory was started by a major suspect in this case, in my opinion to throw the scent off of himself and onto someone else by framing Ivan, who was one of his old enemies.

There is a huge lie going around about us that says that the families have told us to stop our speculation and theorizing. We have sleuths who personally know custodial family members, and they told us that these family members have nothing against this site at all. In addition, an extended family member of one of the girls was a paying member of the site for a time. Our sleuths who know family members told us that the families don’t seem to care much about this site one way or the other.

There is a similar lie going around that we are “interfering with the investigation,” and police have told us to stop. This is based on a misunderstanding of what police have said many times. Police have said that they have only released tiny bits of evidence so as not to interfere with the investigation or to preserve the integrity of the investigation. This means that police would be screwing up their own investigation by releasing too much data about the crime. It makes it hard to weed out false confessions (we have already had two in this case so far), and it makes it hard for the defendant to get a fair trial.

When LE talk about this, they are talking only about themselves, not about citizens. Believe it or not, citizens can write, talk, or speculate about unsolved crimes to their heart’s content. The police can’t do anything about it, and honestly they don’t care what citizens are speculating about the crimes. So it is literally not possible to “interfere with an investigation.” Furthermore, there is no such crime as “interfering with an investigation” that I am aware of.

The police in this case simply said that they were concerned mostly about Facebook groups who kept putting up the Bridge Man composite next to photos of local citizens. Police were concerned that these promiscuous accusations could lead to the people doing it getting sued for libel or defamation.

Police were also irked about some the tips they were getting because a lot of the tips were bad and not even credible. They simply said that getting a lot of noncredible tips is a waste of police resources.

There is an accusation that all of the speculation being done on this site and others “muddies the waters” and confuses the case for investigators. This is a misunderstanding of the LE complaint about non-credible tips being called in. It also implies that police read this site and that somehow our theories confuse the police. This is an underestimation of LE. Yes, they do read here, but they have their own theories, and our speculation certainly does not negatively impact their theories in any way.

Also one would think that if LE was so upset with this site, they would just tell us. I have spoken to detectives several times regarding this case. They requested and were granted access to our private forums a few times. LE never told me even once that they were upset by our theorizing on the case. On the contrary, at least one detective was very gracious for the huge amount of data and photos we gave him.

The Actual Murders

Rumors

The following consists of a number of rumors about how the girls were killed. Most of these rumors have not yet been validated and should be taken with a huge grain of salt. However, the rumors in italics are apparently true to the best of our knowledge:

Probably or Fully True Rumors

Both girls were disrobed. One girl was naked, and her top half was covered with leaves.  Another girl was also naked with her top pulled over her head. Most of the girls’ clothing was found in the creek.

Both girls had dirt under the nails. One girl also had blood under her nails. The other girl’s nails were badly torn up.

Police believe that one girl had 4-5 chances to escape, but did not flee because she was so dedicated to her friend that she vowed to not leave her friend in this horrible state with this monster. In real life, they were inseparable.

One girl had her throat slit. Her throat was so badly cut that she was nearly decapitated.

One girl had a knife wound to the heart and another wound to the jugular vein in her throat.

A large knife with a gut hook was somehow used in this crime. After the crime happened, LE were asking around at local hardware stores if anyone had bought a large knife with a gut hook recently. They asked this at the CVS near the bridge. There are two possibilities here. One is that a knife like this was used on the girls, and LE were able to determine this by looking at the nature of the wounds. The other possibility is that the killer used this knife in the crime and then left it at the scene for whatever reason. At the moment, we favor the theory that the knife was left at the scene by killer, but there’s no hard evidence one way or the other.

Uncertain but Plausible Rumors

At some point, at least one of the girls was stricken with the blunt end of a gun.

At least one of the girls had the back of her head badly bashed in with a heavy object, possibly a rock.

The killer used some sort of strong chemical to try to destroy any of his DNA left at the scene.

The girls were “posed” in the crime scene.

The Bridge Man: What Is Known and What Is Theorized

The Bridge Man is wearing boots from the Indiana Packers plant in town. See below for some evidence backing that up.

The Bridge Man is a fisherman. See below for the knife kit he is carrying on his left leg.

The Bridge Man is definitely lefthanded. See below for evidence that the positioning of the gun he is carrying means that he is lefthanded.

The Bridge Man is bowlegged. This can be observed from the photos.

The Bridge Man is duck-footed; that is, his feet go outward when he walks. This can be observed from the photos.

The Bridge Man has an injury to his left knee. One theory is that based on the way he is walking, he has suffered a medial plateau fracture of the knee joint. He also seems to have some arthritis of that knee. This theory also states that the Bridge Man has had an operation to repair the damaged knee, or tibia actually, as it is technically Bridge Man’s tibia that is broken. The theory goes on to state that he has had an operation to repair the knee. This operation is called an ORIF – an Open Reduction Internal Fixation. If this is true, then Bridge Man probably had a plate and a few screws in his knee. He would also have a long jagged scar on his left knee.

The Bridge Man is 50-55 years old. Our theory based on his appearance in the photos.

The Bridge Man is 5’8-5’10 and weighs 170-190 pounds. The height is based on LE estimates. The weight is based on LE estimates but we have revised their estimate 10 pounds downward. Weight is much harder than height to estimate.

The Bridge Man appears to be in good shape for his age based on the way he easily navigates the rickety, frightening bridge. Self-evident.

The Bridge Man smokes and is smoking during the crime. He may also smoke cigarillos, as a cigarillo wrapper was found at the scene. See below for the blowup of Bridge Man’s face showing that he has a cigarette in his lips and that there is a cloud of smoke emanating from the left side of his face.

More about the Man on the Bridge

The fanny pack that the Bridge Man is wearing is actually wearing what is called a deer kit. Your typical deer kit on sale on the Internet contained five different types of knives. These knives are to be used by hunters in cutting up and dressing the deer that they kill. The Bridge Man’s deer kit is probably like a typical one in that no doubt it contained different knives, probably the five different types of knives found in a typical deer kit. Additional evidence comes from police looking for a man who bought a knife with a gut hook. All deer kits normally contain a gut hook knife as one of the knives in the kit. I think it is obvious that he intended to use those knives to cut the girls. Indeed, the girls are thought to have suffered numerous knife wounds.

One of our theories is that the deer pack is a homemade one made by the local Amish. We located a man in Wisconsin who identified the pack as a deer kit and said he had one that looked exactly like it. Curiously, he said it had been made by local Mennonites in Wisconsin, a German Protestant group similar to the Amish.

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The fanny pack. We now believe that this is something called a deer kit. These kits are used by hunters to cut up their deer, and a gut hook knife is indeed one of those knives. Another is called a caping knife. They usually contain five different types of knives. We believe that BG may well have up to five different types of knives in that deer kit.

Bridge Man clearly has a gun in his jacket. See below for an elaboration of that. One theory is that the gun may be secured in a left-handed gun holster strapped to his right side.

One theory is that the holster resembles the one below and that it was an antique holster, homemade by local Amish.

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If the Bridge Man is using a gun holster, one theory is that it is an antique homemade one made by the local Amish.

We know the Bridge Man is left-handed because of the gun that he is carrying is in such a position that would only be used if he were lefthanded.

We know the Bridge Man has a gun on him, as it can clearly be seen in outline under his jacket.

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Click to enlarge. Photo clearly shows a semiautomatic handgun holstered on his right, which means he is lefthanded. That object can only be a gun.

We have a couple of theories about the gun he is carrying. Originally we thought that the gun was an M1911 early model, pre-1986, possibly purchased from the local Amish, as they have a lot of these for sale. However, the shape is completely wrong for that type of gun. Notice the large bulbous protrusion on the rear of the pistol. That cannot possibly be an M1911.

Instead, one theory is that that is a High Point Firearms Model 34510. This is a very cheap firearm, a “Saturday night special.” They sell for as low as $200 brand new.

Another theory is that it is a similar type of gun that is known for being extremely lightweight.

Our second theory is that the gun may have been stolen from Ron Logan. Ron had a huge gun collection, and there was a big break-in at his house in December where many guns were stolen. A young drug-involved woman who was staying with him at the time was thought to be involved. Admittedly we do not have much evidence for this theory other than a statement from a suspect.

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Here is the rectangular object under BG’s left jeans leg. It is in light blue. The red circle is around some unknown object.

Next let us look at the strange object strapped to Bridge Man’s left leg. We now believe that this is a knife kit with three fisherman’s fillet knives in it. This leads us to believe that the Bridge Man is an outdoorsman – a fisherman, hunter or both – due to the fishing knives and the deer kit. Also, assuming the deer kit has five knives in it, this means that  Bridge Man brought eight knives with him to do this crime.

One of our sleuths asked at work, and a woman at work said she thought the strange object was something called a “net fishing bag” that fishermen sometimes use. She had one herself. But we still needed to explain the rectangular object that the net fishing bag theory did not explain it well.

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This is a net fishing bag. We believe that this is part of the object that appears rectangular under BG’s jeans.

When we rotated the object, we found that we could see both the net fishing bag and inside of it, what looks like a knife kit. Inside the knife kit, we believe there are three fishing knives. To us they look like fillet knives. So Bridge Man brought this knife kit with him to do this crime.

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This is the rectangular object, enhanced and rotated to the lect. Now we can not only see that the object is not really rectangular but is instead more bag shaped.

The photo below shoes some of the type of knives that may be inside of this knife kit.

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Knife case with three knives in it. We believe that a similar case is the rectangular object. If the knives are well secured in that case, then he will not get cut by the knives, which is the standard argument against the knife kit theory.

Next we will move onto the Bridge Man’s boots. First of all, we believe he is wearing boots and not sneakers or tennis shoes. The boots are black. Notice the white stripe going all around the boots?

Now look closely at the boots below. Several days after the crime, LE released this photo of these boots in an evidence bag. Then they said that the boots had nothing to do with the crime, but LE always says things like that. A couple of days before, Indiana State Police had raided Indiana Packers. The stated reason was a bomb threat, but we believe there was no bomb threat. Instead that was just an excuse to shut down the plant and raid the police. After LE were done with the raid, they walked away with a pair of Indiana Packers workboots.

A few days later, a photo of these IP boots was released innocently to the media, however, they were in an evidence bag. Obviously LE felt that these were the model of boots that the Bridge Man was wearing. When we blow up the Bridge Man’s boots, we see now that his black boots with the white stripe all around them are an excellent match for the IP boots in the evidence bag.

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Here is a side by side comparison of the Bridge Man’s boots and the Indiana Packers boots seized by LE during a raid, placed in an evidence bag, and released to the media. Based on the LE theory that the Bridge Man is wearing Indiana Packers work boots, a good theory is that he is either a current or former worker at Indiana Packers.

New Information – Bridge Man is Smoking a Cigarette!

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Blowup found on the Net that appears to show the Bridge Man smoking. And compare that massive nose to the rather normal nose on the sketch. No comparison, right? Ok, so explain.

The photo above showing the Bridge Man with a cigarette in his mouth and a smoke cloud on the left side of his face was originally said to be a Photoshopped fake. However, we looked into the matter further and spoke to the woman who was there when this photo was created. Based on our discussion with her, there is no way that this photo is faked, and that cigarette is either an artifact, or it is a real cigarette in his mouth. Looking at the smoke coming up from the left side of his face and the fact that a cigarillo wrapper was found at the scene, I believe that the photo above shows Bridge Man smoking a cigarette or cigarillo with a cloud of smoke rising on the left side of his face.

Also note the huge nose on the blown up photo. Notice how Bridge Man in the sketch does not have a huge nose at all.

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Composite photo of the Delphi Killer suspect. Where’s the huge nose?

I have been ridiculed to Hell and back for thinking that the Bridge Man is wearing a fake nose. Right now it appears that I am the only person who believes this, and no one agrees with me. I would say that that makes my theory a bit dubious. Nevertheless, those who say he has no fake nose must explain why his nose is so huge in the photo, and why the nose on the photos does not match up with the nose on the sketch. It’s either a fake nose, or it’s some photographic artifact, and his nose is not really huge like that.

We are now working on a rather wild theory that the Bridge Man was elaborately disguised on that day. We have been working a lot with a graphic artist on Bridge Man’s face, and she thinks he may be wearing a mask because his face has no contrast on it at all. According to her, this is only possible if he is wearing a mask. If he is wearing a mask, then a fake nose is certainly not out of the question.

Keep in mind that this is just a theory we are working on right now, and at the moment, we don’t know if he has a mask or a fake nose.

Motivation

The motivation for this crime is hard to figure out, but we suspect it may be similar to many serial killers. Although there is no evidence yet that the Bridge Man has killed other people beyond this crime, he certainly may have. Hence we believe the Bridge Man is a “serial killer type” instead of a serial killer. In that case, the motivation for the crime is that of a sexually sadistic psychopathic serial type killer.

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Gay Men, Fisting and Sick, Perverted Sex in General

NSFW! The following contains some graphic descriptions of some seriously messed up sex acts, so if that bothers you, then just don’t read.

Hood: I am not sure that even many gay men are into fisting. But I wouldn’t know. Perhaps they all do.

Ok, one thing you guys need to know. Gay men are really into fisting. Fisting is apparently a big part of gay porn, and there are many gay porn stars who are known as “fisting stars.” I have seen a few gay porn pages on the Net. I have seen a few that advertised for gay movies. One page had a list of ads for various gay fisting movies with some pretty graphic photos. I am not into gay sex or gay porn at all, as I have zero interest in that sort of thing. I never think about men in a sexual way, I never look at men that way, I never fantasize about men, and I never jerk off thinking about men.

Nevertheless, I have drifted across a few gay porn pages here and there. I don’t really like that stuff (actually it physically revolts me), but I lingered on a few pages, as some of it had a morbid curiosity to it. Like the fisting movies page.

A good survey done some time ago found that 37% of all gay men reported being fisted in the past year. So yes, it looks like fisting is very popular with gay men.

N. B. In case you are wondering how gay men are getting Hepatitis C, well, it’s not through anal sex and anal intercourse does not transmit this disease. Nevertheless, a lot of gay men are getting this disease and know you have learned that gay men are significantly getting Hepatitis C via this fisting, in particular from fisting orgies (yes, actual fisting orgies are fairly common with gay men, believe it or not) where groups of men are fisting one another, as fisting between only two partners is not going to give it to you. It is also being transmitted with the use of large dildos at these fisting and huge dildo ass orgies. As far as how the disease is being transmitted this way, I will leave it to you budding medical epidemiologists to sort it all out. I know how it works, but it’s gross, and I will get into trouble enough with this fucked up disgusting post as it is.

But gay men are definitely into very fucked up sex in a huge way.

37% of gay men also reported being involved in SM/BD sex in the past year, and gay SM/BD sex tends to be very nasty and hardcore stuff, not some vanilla fakery. They really go for it, beat each other to where they have raised welts, have master-slave relationships, piss and shit on each other, eat and drink shit and piss, burn each other with cigarettes, on and on. Gay men are extremely overrepresented in serial killers, and one hypothesis is that this is due to the extremely high rates of sexual sadism among gay men.

16% of gay men got pissed on or drank piss in the past year. They are into piss sex bigtime. A few straight people are into that kind of sex, but most are not. Gay men are into it on a vastly greater basis. Gay men have things called piss parties, where men called piss pigs (one pissdrinking guy) drink the piss of all the other guys there. Most of the data on whether or not this is ok on a health basis comes from anecdotal reports from gay men who have attended these parties.

N.B. Not that I am into this sort of sex, but believe it or not, it is generally not bad for you. I suppose it might be a good idea to drink a lot of water to dilute the piss you drank. You generally won’t get a disease, as urine is pretty sterile when it leaves the body. The one harm interestingly is that some of these piss pigs report that they got heavily dosed with medications from drinking the urine of all these other humans. Whatever medications you are taking are going to go out via your urine, so piss drinkers are getting a dose of whatever drugs the pisser(s) is taking. There don’t seem to have been any serious reactions yet, but a few of these piss pigs reported that they passed out for hours after these parties due to the medications that they consumed.

There are indeed a few diseases that can be transmitted this way (Valley Fever and cholera are two that come to mind) but how often or even whether this happens at all is pretty up for grabs. Mostly this sort of sex strikes me as gross. I don’t even like the way urine smells. How could anyone want to drink that stuff? Humans are so perverse!

8% of gay men engaged in shit play or shiteating in the past year. Gay men are 1.5% of the population, but 50% of scat porn is gay, so they are vastly more into scat than straight men (much less straight women) are. Straight scat porn mostly involves a dominant slavemaster woman and an extremely weak, ultra-sissy, male slave and you can work out in your own mind how the scat sex works based on those dynamics. You can absolutely get diseases from eating shit, but only if the shitter has the disease in the first place.

Probably one of the worst risks for this type of sex is that shiteaters often vomit while they are trying to munch down their unorthodox meal, apparently because it is so disgusting that it triggers an automatic vomit reflex. This is not surprising.

Eating regular shit, believe it or not, won’t give you a disease, but it’s gross as all Hell. You wouldn’t catch me doing that no matter how many lifetimes I lived. One risk from undiseased shit is that eating shit is hard on your liver, as digesting that stuff is going to put a heavy stress on the liver (you will have to use your medical knowledge to figure out how that works). I am aware of a case of one man getting Hepatitis A from eating his wife’s shit. And it was the first time he tried it. Mostly you are risking Hepatitis A and various parasitic diseases. There is much hysteria about “E. Coli” but the kind that is in human shit won’t hurt you. The E. Coli that is sickening and even killing human beings is a variety that comes from cow shit, not human shit.

A lot of animals, especially rabbits, actually eat their own shit. If you have ever owned a rabbit, you will know what I am talking about. Somehow this does not bother them. I had a dog for a while that was always hanging around the sandy area outside where my cats always took their cat shits. I am absolutely disgusted to discover that this idiot dog was digging up the cat shits and eating them, apparently to no harm. Dog shit did not whet his palate at all, but boy that cat shit must have been some gourmet stuff! Why on Earth that dumbass animal thought eating cat shit was a good idea is beyond me, as he was incapable of speech, so I was unable to discern his reasoning.

The fact that there are humans that actually get off sexually on eating shit just shows you how insane and perverted the human sexual impulse can be. There seem to be almost no limits to how twisted sex can get in the human being.

When it comes to sick perverted sex, gay men take the cake all the way, trust me.

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We Are All Narcissists Now

This is an older post that I fixed up and added a lot of new stuff too.

fMRI scans show that we’re most comfortable looking at faces similar to our own.

As you can see, we are always in love with ourselves. Even when we are in love with other people, we are really in love with ourselves.

In my opinion, everyone is somewhat narcissistic. It’s adaptive to a certain degree, especially among males. It’s only when it starts getting out of control that it is pathological.

Keep in mind that another word for narcissism is self-esteem. You either have low, moderate or high narcissism, which means you either have low, moderate or high self-esteem. High self-esteem in and of itself is not pathological and instead is typically seen as a sign of good mental health. However, they can seem a bit overbearing or too much, I would agree with that. These are the people who we say are egotistical, have huge egos, or are self-impressed.

Visualize a scale from 0-100. A score of 1 is the least narcissistic, most ashamed, guilty, self-effacing, self-denying, masochistic doormat around.

Anything above 50 and you are starting to get into the narcissistic without being pathological, high narcissism or high self-esteem folks, which is where a lot of males are anyway, and it’s definitely where I am. Here you find a lot of folks, mostly males, who are vain, conceited, self-centered and sometimes arrogant. They are friendly people, but people who get close to them, for instance female lovers, often complain, “You don’t even care about me.” As a matter of fact, this is a very common complaint that women in general make about their male lovers/spouses in general. They make this complaint because males tend to be more narcissistic than females.

A female friend of my mother’s once asked her husband, “Do you still love me? You never tell me that you love me anymore.” Her husband looked around at the room he was sitting in, looked back at her and said, “Well, I’m still here, aren’t I?” A classic male response. “Hey, if I didn’t love you or like you, I wouldn’t even stick around.” But that’s not good enough for women. Women want to be reminded. Males and females are capable of love, even intense love, for each other, but they often express it in different ways. Women fall in love and form relationships for attachment needs – needs that want and require continual reinforcement. Males fall in love and form relationships for other reasons.

When you start getting up around 70 or so, you get into some pretty pathological narcissism, but it’s not yet the nightmare world of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I had a friend on the Net who was very perverted and loved to talk about sex all the time. He was a bit of a swinger, and he had screwed countless females. He was also somewhat bisexual, as many male perverts are. We would get into long, dirty conversations on the Net, and he would tell me all about his life from a sexual point of view.

One very interesting story he told was that when he was a teenager, his parents hired a Thai maid. She slept in a bedroom next to his and they could sort of hear each other through the walls. He jerked off every night like most teenage boys. At some point, every time he jerked off, he heard strange noises coming from the maid’s room. After a while, he figured out that every time he jerked off, she was also masturbating in tandem with him and getting off herself. A great story!

But he would go on and on with these wild stories, talking a mile a minute like someone hyped up on speed. But the stories were all about him and his doings and goings on. I really didn’t mind because I am narcissistic myself and listening to others gets me out of my head for once. But he was definitely a self-centered person, and he was also pretty vain. These people can be annoying, but they are not a walking catastrophe.

The dividing line seems to be whether or not you care about others. As narcissism goes higher and higher, typically people care less and less about others. It’s as if we only have so much love inside of us. If we use up all of our “love potential” on ourselves, there’s nothing left for anyone else. I have no idea if this theory is correct, but it’s an interesting idea I thought I would toss out there.

Now we get to the NPD’s, the Narcissistic Personality Disorder types. These are simply a disaster. Some of them can be nice to some people if they choose to be, but in general, they are uncaring and not very nice. They brag constantly and can’t be bothered to do anything for you.

There are degrees of NPD. There is Mild, Moderate and Severe NPD. NPD is not incurable, but it is quite hard to fix. But some can get better if they work on it. I have known some NPD’s who made some decent progress. The NPD’s who get better become much less annoying and insufferable, show more insight into their behavior and in general simply become better and wiser human beings.

The reason NPD is so hard to fix is because most simply think there is nothing wrong with themselves and hence don’t think they need fixing. If you have NPD and are aware of it, look around at your relationships with others. Are they satisfying or dissatisfying? If they are dissatisfying, you might want to look at working on the NPD.

I had an NPD friend who made a big deal about how he was going to my father’s funeral, but then he never showed up. It turned out he didn’t even have a very good reason either. He just didn’t care. If it wasn’t about him, it was irrelevant. If you started talking about you, he would listen for a bit and quickly become bored and uninterested.

An NPD I have known for many years will ask, “So what’s been going on with you lately?” You start to tell them, and after about 15-20 seconds, they are already bored and looking around the room. Like most narcissists, this person is absolutely clueless about how and why they offend others or why so many people despise them and want nothing to do them. I finally cut this person out of my life after decades of trying to suck up to them, be nice to them, and get them to like me. They were always disappointing me, and it felt like they hated me. I blamed myself and said it was because I was such a loser: “If I wasn’t such a loser, they might like me better.”

After decades of this, I started acting about as crappy towards them as they did towards me. This caused this horrible person to have hurt feelings that I didn’t like them, which they tried to make me feel guilty about. This person was also 100% clueless about why I was returning his jerkiness in pure form. Mutual friends got on my case about why I was being “mean” to this family member. Apparently this person gets to be a shit to me for the rest of my life, and I’m evil if don’t kiss their ass, smile and refuse to fight back.

NPD’s are a nightmare. If you have an NPD in your life, you really need to think about maybe getting this person out of your life. Some of the NPD’s I have known have only caused me pain and damage in my life. It’s not worth it.

Going further along, you get to the Elliot Rodger type of Severe Narcissistic Personality Disorder. NPD’s are not typically violent, but they are definitely capable of it, especially if they are shamed or rejected – because they can’t handle any rejection. They may then commit acts of aggression, dishonestly, and even violence as revenge. Elliot Rodger is a case in point that shows how NPD at certain times can lead to violence, even extreme violence.

Beyond that we get into the real monsters. These are the malignant narcissists. Ted Bundy comes to mind. Others call these narcissistic sociopaths, among other terms. I don’t understand them very well, and I am not sure how this differs from pure narcissism or pure sociopathy. Obviously, these are some of the worst human beings on Earth, incurable and often highly dangerous. A number of serial killers have been diagnosed with malignant narcissism as opposed to sociopathy.

You might be interested to know that our own President Donald Trump is a classic malignant narcissist. Of course he is an awful person, and he is definitely dangerous. All malignant narcissists are dangerous by default, but they don’t always act out with violence extreme enough to get them in trouble with the law. There are controlled malignant narcissists just as there are controlled psychopaths.

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America, Land of Sex-Crazy Puritans

When It Comes To Sex, Americans Are Barking Mad and Always Have Been

What in the Hell is the matter with Americans anyway? Why are we so insane about sex? America has always been insane about sex, possibly dating back to its puritan roots. The fact that this is the only Western country with a huge fundamentalist religious movement cannot be helpful.

On the one hand, there is free porn everywhere, all over the Internet, available for anyone to see, even underage teenagers. And underage teens of both sexes definitely watch porn. By age 18, I would gather that the vast majority of teens of both sexes have seen Internet porn. I had a client once who had started masturbating compulsively to Internet porn at age 11. And, get this, this person was female. Yep, an 11 year old girl masturbating compulsively to Internet porn. Now obviously she’s an outlier, but the point is taken.

She brought up the issue of “early sexualization” regarding today’s kids in regards to her own experience.

In addition to flooding society with free porn, we fetishize and nearly mandate sex. We make it impossible to criticize even the sickest, most messed up sex acts.

Gay men like to eat shit? That’s just fine! Don’t you know it’s homophobic to criticize that?

Sick people get into S/M relationships where a sadistic man basically abuses a self-hating masochistic women, all done under the rubric of S/M of course, so we are not allowed to criticize it, except that in terms of its dynamics, it looks exactly like any abusive relationship with a cruel man and suffering, Stockholmed battered woman? This is basically torture sex. We are not allowed to criticize torture sex. If people want to torture each other, that’s their business!

Another thing not discussed is the relationship between S/M, B/D sex and psychopathy and sex crimes, including kidnapping, rape, torture, murder and serial murder. It is extremely common for men who committed violent sexual crimes against women to have a background interest in S/M B/D sex. Women involved in the scene report that many of the male doms (really just sadistic men) have sociopathic tendencies, and many are out and out psychopaths.

A lot of the masochistic women who come out of the “consensual” S/M B/D scene end up damaged, often seriously, by years of abuse done under the “cool” rubric of S/M B/D. The sort of damage that they present with looks exactly like the psychological damage that women in abusive relationships show. But hey, that’s just fine. A sex scene that produces rapists, kidnappers, torturers, murderers and serial killers is just fine! And you’re a stuffy uptight prude if you disagree!

Gay men want piss on each other and drink each other’s piss? Well that’s just fine! How uptight of us to object to such a thing! We must be evil or something. Why don’t we try it ourselves? What’s wrong with you? You won’t drink piss? What, are you frigid or impotent or something?

Gay men want to shove fists up each other’s asses, sometimes causing serious damage to their bodies? How dare we object. We are evil homophobes! Fisting is just fine! We must be uptight or something. Why don’t we try it ourselves, we might like it?

For straight people, sex is nearly mandatory, even if you are single. I knew a 19 year old college girl who absolutely hated herself because she was still (technically) a virgin. She said she felt like a total loser. You can go on the Internet and read underage teenage girls complaining bitterly that they are still virgins and predicting that they will be virgins all the way to age 18. One was so angry about it that she was determined to seduce one of her father’s friends just to get rid of her virginity.

Guys who can’t get laid are considered losers. We are all supposed to be having tons of sex all the time, and if we are not, we are hung up, failures, losers and maybe even mentally ill, sick or even evil. I have seen people call men who were not getting any evil on many occasions. If you’re not having sex, you’re a sinner! Wow. We’ve turned morality upside down. Sins are virtues and virtues are sins! Sade would be proud of us.

At the same time as we push this Wild West bacchanalia sexual free for all with its sinful chastity and virtuous whoredom, we are probably the most puritanical country in the entire West. Most of this is being driven by Gender Feminism, one of the most fanatically puritanical movements to emerge in our time and  probably by the Christian fundamentalism, which is somehow working right alongside the whorish Babylon. So we hate sex, and we are sex-crazy. This actually makes sense because there is evidence that the more you repress sex, the more sex-crazy people get due to pent-up frustration.

Way to go, Americans! Way to be stupid! Keep being idiots! Don’t stop now! You’re just getting started.

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Cultural Left Lies about Homosexuality

We do not choose our sexual orientation. This is actually the official pronouncement of the American Psychological Association, and there is no basis whatsoever for making that statement, although for men there seems to be something to it. Plenty of women have obviously chosen lesbianism and then chosen to be straight again.

Sexual orientation is inborn. Then why do these lesbians date men for years and decades before they finally “wake up” and realize that they are lesbians? If they are born that way,  what happened? Did their true nature go into hiding until they were 40?

Male homosexuality is inborn or genetic. It is almost certainly not genetic, but it may be a developmental disorder, so in that sense, it may be inborn. And while it is fixed in adolescence or even before, we still do not know if or how childhood factors play a role in male sexual orientation. In other words, it’s not proven that prepubertal boys already have a preset sexual orientation.

Gay men are no more likely to molest children than straight men. On the contrary, they are 12X more likely to molest children than straight men, and we are talking little kids here, under 13, not teenagers.

10% of all people are gay. This is called the “10% lie.” It’s been disproven so many times that we should hardly bother to disprove it anymore, except that we have to because the gays keep lying about it.

The rate of homosexuality is not increasing. False. The background rate may be ~3%, but among the youngest generation in the UK, 6% of all men are gay. The same study showed that only 45% of men said they were completely heterosexual. Previous studies put it at 60-65%. Clearly the rate is increasing. This also calls into question the “born that way” theory.

The rate of homosexuality is the same all over the world. False. In Ancient Greece and Rome, rates approached 95% of men. Among certain groups in Afghanistan, the rates are extremely high. There are also societies where it seems to barely exist at all. Sexual orientation may not be up for grabs so much, but at least men can engage in homosexual behavior at vastly different rates.

Gays do not recruit or convert. False. Gay men continuously try to seduce straight men, with young, very handsome straight men being hit the hardest of all. It’s dubious whether straight men can actually be converted to a homosexual or even bisexual orientation, but they can definitely be converted to bisexual behavior.

The Gay Lobby does not have a subversive agenda. False. The Gay Lobby has long stated that one of its most important goals is to abolish gender, as they put it. That’s subversive in my book.

Everyone is at risk of HIV. Hardly. The vast majority of Americans either have zero to extremely low HIV risk. The HIV rate among lesbians is close to zero.

HIV does not discriminate. Like Hell it doesn’t. Gay men are 1.5% of the population and 70% of HIV cases. Sounds like a discriminatory disease to me.

Sexual practices play no role in HIV. Like Hell they don’t. The crude equation of HIV is this: Humans who get fucked in the ass fuck other humans in the ass (with their penises). Sure, a woman can practice receptive anal sex and get HIV, but there is almost no way to give it to anyone else as she lacks a penis full of semen to transmit it. Hence, as the New York Department of Health noted in the 1980’s, HIV goes from men to women and then it stops.

Gay men are no more likely to have sex with young teenagers than straight men are. False. 25% of all gay men over the age of 25 have had sex with a boy age 13-15 when they were over age 25. Only 6% of all straight men over the age of 25 have had sex with a girl aged 13-15 when they were over 25.

The only difference between gay and straight men is the PIV sex. Hardly. There are extreme differences between gay and straight men even outside the bedroom.

Effeminacy and masculinity have no relationship to sexual orientation. In fact, gay men are much more likely to be effeminate, and masculinity is deeply rooted in male heterosexuality. Perhaps ~70-75% of gay men are effeminate, and perhaps ~1-3% of straight men are effeminate. I have only see two truly masculine gay men in my life, both on Youtube videos. The rate of seriously masculine gay men must be vanishingly small.

Gay men are just as mentally healthy as straight men. Studies consistently show that gay men have higher rates of depression and anxiety disorders than straight men.

Increased psychological problems among gays are due to societal discrimination. Recent data out of Denmark and Sweden, as gay friendly as anywhere, show that the rate of psychological problems remain elevated even in perfect conditions. No one knows why psychological problems seem to be part of the package that male homosexuality comes wrapped up in.

Gay teens have an elevated suicide rate. Not true. They have a higher rate of suicide attempts, but the rate itself is not elevated.

Gays have a high suicide rate. Not so for gay men or lesbians.

Children raised by gays are just as psychologically healthy as children raised by a man and a woman. False. They have more problems and are about as psychologically healthy as kids raised by single Moms. The best environment for children is a man and a woman.

Children raised by gays are no more likely to be gay than anyone else. The latest studies show that ~12% of children raised by gays are gay themselves, which is vastly higher than the background rate. This calls into extreme question notions about sexual orientation as inborn.

Gays live just as long as straights. Nope. Their life expectancy is shortened by a full 20 years.

The shortened gay lifespan is due to discrimination. False. Gay men like 20 years less in Sweden and Denmark too, the most gay friendly countries on Earth.

Lesbians live just as long as straight women. False. Lesbians live a full 20 years less than straight women.

Gay men are not more promiscuous than straight men. False. A huge percentage of gay men have had 100+ sexual partners. Only 6% of straight men have.

HIV is not a gay disease – straight men can get it too. False. It is nearly impossible to get HIV from PIV insertive sex.

Reparative therapy does not work. False. It does not work for gay men. However, surrogate sex therapy for lesbians has been shown to work. Lesbians who were incapable of sex with men can become capable via surrogate sex therapy.

Gay men are no more likely to be serial killers. False. Gay men are 12X more likely to be serial killers than straight men.

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Delphi Murders Update August 30, 2017: Update on the Crime and a Profile of a Delphi Murders Suspect

New Delphi Murders Update!

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 1:

I am getting really sick and tired of saying this over and over, but most of the material below is made up of rumors and my own opinions and theories. None of that is represented as fact. Furthermore, I am not using rumors as reliable sources as has been alleged. I never said they were reliable sources. How reliable is a rumor? That’s for you to determine, but in general a rumor is not considered to be a reliable source, and they are not treated as such below.

 The rest of what we are reporting are in general our hypotheses about this crime. These hypotheses have changed several  times in the course of this investigation, but that’s the way all detective work is. If you don’t want to be wrong, don’t be a detective because being a detective is all about being wrong. So our hypotheses are just that. If you are not sure what a hypothesis is, go look it up. It’s just a guess or hunch that you are setting out to prove. We do not believe we have proved much about this crime yet, but we do have a lot of hypotheses going. All of those hypotheses are by their nature temporary and may be changed at any time. If they are born out, then they will become more permanent.

The only thing that is represented as fact are statements sourced from LE or the media. If you have issues with rumors, theories, opinions, hypotheses, etc., just quit reading right now and get off my site and don’t come back. You will not be missed!

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 2:

I thought I made this one thing perfectly clear as Richard Nixon used to say:

I have no sources whatsoever among the families of the girls.

I have no sources whatsoever in LE, local or otherwise. 

There ya go.

What I do have is sources close to the families. These people generally live in Delphi and the surrounding region. So that makes my rumors even more hearsay. I’m not even talking to the families. I am talking to people who talk to the families!

Of course I have no LE sources. I thought I made that clear. Never have. Yes, I have talked to some of them, but of course they didn’t tell me a thing. A couple of times they told me that a certain person was a POI or that a certain person had been cleared with an airtight alibi. I suppose they don’t mind giving out that information. But other than that, they don’t tell me jack. It’s hard enough to even get them to call you back. I think if I asked them if my name was Robert Lindsay, they would say, “I am sorry, but I cannot comment on matters relating to an ongoing investigation.” That’s how bad it is.

So what do I have? Once again, I have sources who are close to LE. They get their information from LE, then they talk to me. So once again this is even more hearsay, as I am not even talking to LE but to the people who are talking to LE.

I really wish people would quit claiming I have LE or family sources. I just don’t. If you think I have these sources or if  you have any problems at all with my sources, just quit reading my stuff right now and get off my site. You will not be missed!

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 3: The lies never end. The latest is “Lindsay takes other people’s theories and claims they are his own.” Of course I don’t. This website is nothing but a compendium of rumors from all over the Net regarding this crime. I go through the rumors and try to rank them on a scale of weak to strong. I compare them against other rumors to see which one is better. All sorts of theories have been flying around since day one. I report those too.

The theories are really just more rumors. I’d say the vast majority of the rumor theories reported here were thought up by other people. I find most of my theories on other sites about this crime. That’s how it works, you know. You get theories about the crime from others. Yes, you use your own theories, and you use other people’s theories. I really do not have time to down through the list of theories and say where I got them from. I have come up with a few of my own, but even with those, I guess someone else thought of them first. Also a lot of the theories here are also the result of constant brainstorming I do with my fellow sleuths. If you I “steal other people’s ideas” (a laughable concept in itself) or have problems with me reporting rumors, just get off the site right now. You will not be missed!

Notice: All of the really hot discussion and sleuthing on the site has headed over to the private password-protected forum, where our team of ~200 websleuths has been working on this case and has assembled a huge case against our suspect, including videos and many photographs. Instructions on how to get on the private forum.

This is a profile of a man who we feel is the best suspect in the double murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German in Delphi, Indiana on February 13, 2017. In also contains some new evidence on the crime and a new rundown of the crime itself.

New Information

But first of all, we have some new important information on a Vehicle of Interest in the crime.

More on the Vehicle of Interest in the case

In the last report, we detailed a vehicle we believe is the VOI in this case. The photo below is a photo of this VOI. This vehicle is a late model white Dodge Dart with paper plates. It was seen seven miles south of Delphi on the morning of the crime. We are not sure who the man in the photo is, but we feel he may be the man on the bridge. The woman who lived here thought this vehicle was suspicious, so she wrote down the license number.

We believe this license number with the paper plates was either stolen or given to this man in Kokomo. We traced the license plate back to Kokomo, but could not get any further information .

Previously we thought this man rented this car. We now believe that this man may own this vehicle.

The VOI in the crime is said to be a late model white Dodge Dart with paper plates. It was seen at the trailhead by a witness at ~3  PM on February 13., which was exactly the time that this crime was occurring.

As you can see, the vehicle in this photo and the VOI in the case have the same descriptions. Both are described as late model white Dodge Darts with paper plates. We believe that the car below is the same car that was used in the crime six hours later on the bridge in Delphi. It stands to reason that this man may be the man on the bridge, but we can’t prove that yet.

I can tell you who this man was visiting though. This man was visiting a woman’s son at this woman’s house. The son lives a ways away, but was visiting his mother at the time. The man in the white car was reportedly visiting a man named BH at this home. We have no information whatsoever on whether BH was involved in the crime that occurred later. At the moment, we have little reason to suspect that he was. However, he does have a criminal record and was arrested only a few days after the murders. We do not understand the relationship between BH and the man with the white car. We have no idea how they know each other or the reason for the visit that morning.

As we now believe that this car is owned by this man and not rented, we now believe that the man on the bridge may have used his own car to commit this crime. However, he tried to cover it up by putting fake paper plates over his real plates. We have a suspect who is rumored to drive a late model white Dodge Dart, but we have not been able to prove that he actually has a car like that. It’s only a rumor. We have been working to try to figure it out, but car ownership information is hard to come by.

There are new reports coming in that the VOI was seen by more people than this one woman. There are now reports that several people saw that car there at the bridge that day.

The reason we think the late model white Dodge Dart with paper plates is the VOI is because to our knowledge, this is the only car seen that day that has not been cleared.

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Reportedly a photo of a white compact car near the Monon Bridge on the day of the murders. However, this car does not match up to the white vehicle photographed in front of the woman’s house. There are suggestions that this photo may not even have been taken on that day or in that place. It has been traced back to a woman who is trying to frame her ex husband for this crime, so this photo may simply be a photo of his vehicle. Bottom line is this photo has no relevance to this case.

Despite the red herring and the dead end regarding the photo above, we are hearing that more people are coming forward saying that they say a white late model Dodge Dart with paper plates at the bridge around the time of the crimes. But no photos have emerged yet of this vehicle at Monon Bridge that day.

There are different stories regarding the woman who took these photos and the man in the photo. The woman was reportedly shown a number of photos of different men and asked if any of them were the man with the white car. When shown a photo of our suspect, the woman supposedly pulled her car over to the side of the road,  leaned out the car door and vomited. So she had a very violent involuntary reaction to a photo of our suspect. However, before this happened, she was shown a number of photos of possible persons who the man by the white car might be, and the woman was saying yes to all of them. Obviously they are not all the man by the white car. Unfortunately, this witness has serious credibility issues

White Dart with license #

Photo of Vehicle of Interest (VOI) 1. Photo taken in the early AM seven miles south of Delphi, Indiana on 2-13-17, eight hours before the Delphi murders occurred in that same town. The person was at a woman’s house visiting the woman’s son, a man named BH. An identical vehicle was seen at the crime scene at the time of the crime. We believe that this may be the vehicle used by the man on the bridge in the crime. We believe that the man in this photo may be the man on the bridge. The license # is written on the photo.

More About the Home Where the Photo Above Was Taken

Unfortunately, this woman’s home and life’s involvement in this tale is not over. The day before the killings, two persons came over to visit her daughter, MA. These persons were KC and TJF. The two picked up MA and took off to go to the woods by the bridge supposedly to cook up methamphetamine. The notion that there were meth cookers in the woods that afternoon led to all sorts of what I call the Meth Theory. Most involved these dealers and cookers and apparently the three people above, killing the two girls for all sorts of possible reasons, mostly that the girls happened upon the meth cooking operation. These theories in general are no good and I reject all of them.

Nevertheless over the period of 2-12 AM and 2-15 PM, these three were gone and were reportedly cooking meth at some point during this time frame, but it’s not known exactly when or where. All of these people were high out of their minds on meth and heroin for three days and all used a benzodiazepine that is known for pretty much erasing your memory. The daughter, MA, came home late on 2-15 beaten up and complained that she had been beaten and gangraped and some point over this period.

People thought this may have happened in the woods, maybe when the girls were being killed, but this gang rape probably occurred elsewhere, probably in someone’s home. At the same time, there is rumored to be a photo of a group of men on their knees with their pants down kneeling around the body of a naked woman. For some time, people wondered if this was a photo of what was done to the girls, but now it appears that if this photo exists, it depicts this gang rape of MA and not any rape or murder of the girls.

MA  was reportedly a willing partner in this gang rape, as it was done as a gang initiation to initiate her into some gang.  The gang appears to be an Aryan Brotherhood White Supremacist organization, but it is not the AB. Instead it is some local group not affiliated with them. After the initiation, MA become the property of the gang and they could do whatever they wanted to with her. They could sell her, give her away to other people, force her to prostitute herself, all sorts of things. As a result of the gang rape in which KC probably participated, MA was given to KC by the gang. Her boyfriend for the next ~6 weeks was KC, but apparently she was forced into this relationship.

When MA returned home, the woman called the police on all of them. KC was arrested that day on 2-15 on meth charges.

In the aftermath of the three day ordeal, MA reportedly confessed in part to the murder of the girls. She stated that she “wanted to know what it felt like to stab someone, so she stabbed someone.” She did not know who she stabbed, when or where. Furthermore, all of their minds were as good as erased for the three day period due to the benzo ingestion. I am not sure if her confession has been turned into police. We believe this is a false confession, the result of a beating, a gang rape and three days of heavy drug use. Anyway she has no details about this “stabbing.” Further, MA does not seem capable or murdering those girls. KC and TJF are pretty lousy men, but from what I know about them, I can’t see them murdering these girls, especially for no particular reason.

The woman has been interviewed by both the FBI and the Indiana State Police. We do not know what has come of this, but our information now is that LE does not believe the Meth Theory of the murders is a valid hypothesis.

As far as MA goes, at some point, she was sold to a man up in Wisconsin. She had to go up there and live with this man who bought her for a month or so. Later she was in rehab. This woman makes a lot of dubious choices, has terrible friends, and has gotten herself into a heap of trouble, but I don’t think she’s a murderer.

The Actual Murders

Rumors

The following consists of a number of rumors about how the girls were killed. Most of these rumors have not yet been validated and should be taken with a huge grain of salt. However, the rumors in italics are apparently true to the best of our knowledge:

Probably or Fully True Rumors

Both girls were disrobed either partially or fully. One was naked, but the other had a top on. Both girls were bottomless, and the panties of both girls were found at some distance from the crime scene. Some of the girls’ clothing was found in the creek.

One girl had the top half of her body covered with leaves.

There was blood and dirt under Liberty’s nails and dirt under Abbie’s nails. Abbie’s nails were badly torn up.

Police believe that Libby had 4-5 chances to escape, but did not flee because she was so dedicated to her friend that she vowed to not leave her friend in this horrible state with this monster. In real life, they were inseparable.

One or possibly both girls had their throats slit. One girl’s throat was so badly cut that she was nearly decapitated.

More Uncertain but Plausible Rumors

At some point, at least one of the girls was stricken with the blunt end of a gun.

At least one of the girls had the back of her head badly bashed in with a heavy object, possibly a rock.

One girl had a knife wound to the heart and another wound to the jugular vein in her throat.

The stake to the stomach is one of the reasons for the consistent rumors that one of the girls was pregnant. It is not known if either girl was in the early stages of pregnancy, however this is a persistent rumor that we have not been able to refute despite our best efforts to do so. The rumor initially stated that one girl was pregnant, but now it says that the other girl was pregnant. Another rumor is that part of the attack was set off by the killer becoming enraged when he found out one girl was not a virgin. We have been trying very hard to refute the pregnancy rumor but have been unable to do so. At the moment, we have no idea at all if either girl was pregnant. It’s a black hole.

The killer used some sort of strong chemical to try to destroy any of his DNA left at the scene.

The girls were  “posed” in the crime scene.

New Rumors

There are some shocking new rumors that have recently surfaced.

The blockbuster is from the wife of an LE officer who was working on the case. Her husband could not sleep at night, and he finally broke down and told her what was done to the girls. The LE officer reported that branches or bundles of sticks had been shoved into the girls’ vaginas and anuses. Furthermore, the girls had numerous stab wounds and branches or stick bundles were shoved into these too.  There has been a long standing rumor that one of the girls had a stake rammed into her from above. We have been attacked viciously for reporting this. We have tried very hard to negate this rumor, but we have never been able to do so. Now with this new rumor, it finally seems that there was something to the stake rumor all along.

Another is the involvement of a large knife with a gut hook in this crime. After the crime happened, LE were asking around at local hardware stores if anyone had bought a large knife with a gut hook recently. They asked this at the CVS near the bridge. There are two possibilities here. One is that a knife like this was used on the girls and LE were able to determine this by looking at the nature of the wounds. The other possibility is that the killer used this knife in the crime and then left it at the scene for whatever reason. At the moment, we favor the theory that the knife was left at the scene by killer, but there’s no hard evidence one way or the other.

We also have new information about the witnesses who saw the Bridge Man in the area that day who were used to draw the composite. One wonders where the witness(es)  saw the Bridge Man. One rumor says he was seen parked in his car next to the cemetery. The other stories are simply that a few people saw the Bridge Man around the bridge at that time.

The Bridge Man and Our Suspect: Too Many Coincidences

We believe that the Bridge Man is wearing boots from the Indiana Packers plant in town. The suspect formerly worked at Indiana Packers for a significant period of time from the mid-90’s to mid 2000’s and may have retained work boots from that job.

We believe that the Bridge Man is a fisherman. The suspect is an avid fisherman almost to the point of obsession and fanaticism.

The Bridge Man is definitely left-handed. The suspect is also left-handed. Actually he is ambidextrous, but he prefers his left hand.

The Bridge Man is bowlegged. The suspect is also bowlegged, probably from extensive horse riding as a youth. We have a photograph of the suspect next to a horse. The suspect grew up right around the area of the crime in the vicinity of a lot of horses.

The Bridge Man is duck-footed; that is, his feet go outward when he walks. The suspect is also duck-footed.

The Bridge Man has an injury to his left knee which is obvious in the moving gif’s of him walking on the bridge. The suspect also has a serious injury to his left knee, has several deep stitches on it, and sometimes wears a knee brace. We have a photograph of the suspect’s scarred left knee and a photograph of the suspect wearing what appears to be a knee brace on his left knee.

The Bridge Man is 50-60 years old. The suspect is 52 years old.

The Bridge Man is 5’8-5’10 and weighs 180-220 pounds. The suspect is 5’8, and when last weighed was 170 pounds, but that was a few years ago, and he seems to have gained weight after his recent release from prison.

The Bridge Man appears to be in good shape for his age based on the way he easily navigates the rickety, frightening bridge. Being an avid outdoorsman, the suspect has been in great shape his whole life, but he has developed a paunch as a recent middle-aged development.

The Bridge Man smokes and is smoking during the crime. He may also smoke cigarillos, as a cigarillo wrapper was found at the scene. The suspect also smokes, and he does smoke cigarillos. We have a video of the suspect smoking a cigarillo.

We believe that a white compact vehicle may have been used by the Bridge Man to commit this crime. The suspect was photographed the night before the crime in Indianapolis, and the photographs were posted to a social media page the night of the crime. We have two of these photographs. In one of these photographs, the suspect is standing next to a white compact car. We believe that this photograph was used by the suspect to foreshadow the crime he intended to commit the next day by leaving a tantalizing clue, which is something that he loves to do.

In the number and strangeness of the tantalizing clues this suspect leaves about his crimes, the suspect resembles the Zodiac Killer, the BTK Killer and others. The suspect also likes to ridicule and mock LE. If this case ever goes to trial, it may go down in history on the same level as those other crimes where the criminal left clues behind to tease and taunt LE.

We have quite a few more coincidences between the suspect and the Bridge Man, but we do not want to release that material now due to fears of harming the investigation. All of our material was officially turned over to LE on Friday, July 21.

More about the Man on the Bridge

Although the Bridge Man is said to be wearing a fanny pack in the bridge photo, he is actually wearing what is called a deer kit. This typically contains scissors, knives, etc. for cutting up the game that the hunter has killed, and the Bridge Man’s pack may have contained similar items. He may have used some of these items to cut up the girls.

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The fanny pack. We now believe that this is something called a deer kit. These kits are used by hunters to cut up their deer, and a gut hook knife is indeed one of those knives. Another is called a caping knife. They usually contain five different types of knives. We believe that BG may well have up to five different types of knives in that deer kit.

We know the Bridge Man is left-handed because we believe he has a left-handed gun holster strapped to his right side with a semiautomatic pistol in it. We believe we have now have photos of a holster very similar to the one that the Bridge Man is wearing. We believe he is wearing a vintage leather lefthanded holster. We believe it was made by the Amish and BG purchased it from the Amish. Photos of a very similar holster follow.

Photo #1.

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This is the type of gun holster used by Bridge Man.

Photo #2.

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View of Bridge Man’s type of gun holster, the exact model no doubt.

Photo #3.

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Apparent closeup on the material in the model of gun holster that Bridge Man is wearing.

Photo #4.

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Another view of Bridge Man’s type of gun holster.

We know the Bridge Man has a gun on him as it can clearly be seen in outline under his jacket.

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Click to enlarge. Photo clearly shows a semiautomatic handgun holstered on his right, which means he is lefthanded. That object can only be a gun.

We believe that the Bridge Man gun is an M1911 early model, pre-1986. As far as how this gun was acquired, one theory is that this gun was purchased also from the Amish, as they have many such guns available for cheap. The other possibility is that the Bridge Man stole this gun from Ron Logan of all people. In December, Logan had many guns stolen from his house by a young druggie woman he had living there. If this gun is stolen from Logan, it may be from this heist as no doubt these stolen guns were distributed around. We are not sure at the moment which of these two theories is true or even if either of them are. However, we believe that the type, model # and year is correct, and the ultimate provenance of this gun may well have been via a purchase from the Amish.

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Photo of the type of gun we believe was used in the crime. This is an early model pre-1986 Smith and Wesson M1911 semiautomatic handgun.

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I believe that this is the type of gun that BG used. This is an M1911 semiautomatic pistol pre-1986, originally purchased from the Amish, who have many of these for sale. It also may have been recently stolen from Ron Logan.

As you can see above, the Bridge Man has three different objects that we believe may have been purchased from the Amish. We believe that the Bridge Man has some connection to the Amish community. He is either Amish himself (possibly shunned Amish) or he grew up around the Amish and German Baptists and knows them very well. Indeed, we believe the Bridge Man grew up in Delphi not far from where the crime occurred.

One of the keys to the crime is: Amish, shunned Amish, German Baptists.

Next we move on to another object in the Bridge Man’s possession that has caused a lot of puzzlement. No one quite seems to know what this object is. We had a few hypotheses of what it was, but they did not test out well. We believe we have now settled on an excellent theory of what this object is. See the photo above and also the longer distance photo of the Bridge Man above to see this object for yourself. It is definitely there. It is a strange rectangular object that is somehow strapped to the Bridge Guy’s left pants leg.

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Here is the rectangular object under BG’s left jeans leg. It is in light blue. The red circle is around some unknown object.

When we blew up the photo, at first all we saw was a strange “W” object. We had no idea what it was.

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This is our initial enhancement of the rectangular object. We thought it had a W object in it, and we had no idea what that was.

One of our sleuths asked at work and a woman at work said she thought it was something called a “net fishing bag” that fishermen sometimes use. She had one herself.  But we still needed to explain the rectangular object that the net fishing bag did not explain it well.

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This is a net fishing bag. We believe that this is the object that appears rectangular under BG’s jeans.

Upon rotating the object, we were able to see it better. Now we could see the bag shaped object (the net fishing bag) enclosing the rectangular object. But what was the rectangular object. Via this view, we decided that the rectangular object was a knife carrying kit with knives in it. We counted three knives in the kit and based on the shape, we felt that they were fishing fillet knives. So the rectangular object is a net fishing bag with a knife carrying kit inside with three fishing fillet knives.

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This is the rectangular object, enhanced and rotated to the lect. Now we can not only see that the object is not really rectangular but is instead more bag shaped.

The photo below shoes some of the type of knives that may be inside of this knife kit.

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Knife case with three knives in it. We believe that a similar case is the rectangular object. I assume that the knives can be secured in the holder in some way or sheathed. I assume that there are knife cases like this which lock or close. In that case, we solve the problem that “no one would carry knives in the bag like that because they might get cut.” If they are in a secured knife case or sheathed, the knives are safe and are very unlikely to injure the person barring catastrophic circumstances (hit by a car, long fall from a high place, etc.) Even then a locked case would no doubt stay intact.

If this theory of the object is valid, more things become clear. The Bridge Man may well be a fisherman. After all, he has a fishing kit on him. He may also be a hunter based on the deer kit. On the other hand, deer kits like that are sometimes also called fisherman’s kit.

We believe another key to the crime is fishing, fish and fishermen.

Next we will move onto the Bridge Man’s boots. First of all, we believe he is wearing boots and not sneakers or tennis shoes. The boots are black. Notice the white stripe going all around the boots?

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Closeup of Bridge Guy’s boots. Look at the white stripe around them.

Now look closely at the boots below. Several days after the crime, LE released this photo of these boots in an evidence bag. Then they said that the boots had nothing to do with the crime, but LE always says things like that. A couple of days before, Indiana State Police had raided Indiana Packers. The stated reason was a bomb threat, but we believe there was no bomb threat. Instead that was just an excuse to shut down the plant and raid the police. After LE were done with the raid, they walked away with a pair of Indiana Packers workboots.

A few days later, a photo of these IP boots is released innocently to the media, however, they are in an evidence bag. Obviously LE felt that these were the model of boots that the Bridge Man was wearing. When we blow up the Bridge Man’s boots, we see now that his black boots with the white stripe all around them are an excellent match for the IP boots in the evidence bag.

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Black shoes with white stripe. This is a perfect match for BG’s shoes. These shoes came from Indiana Packers. These are Indiana Packers work boots that everyone has to wear there. So BG was wearing Indiana Packers workboots.

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Here is a side by side comparison of the Bridge Man’s boots and the Indiana Packers boots seized by LE during a raid, placed in an evidence bag and released to the media. That the Bridge Man is wearing Indiana Packers boots is a good theory based on the evidence.

The blowup of the Bridge Man below is interesting for two reasons. First of all, he is not smoking something in that photo. The cigarette in the right of his mouth was Photoshopped in. It is not known if the smoke on the left side of his face was also faked. However, one thing is obvious in this photo and in any photo of the Bridge Man, and that is his massive nose

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Blowup found on the Net that reportedly shows the Bridge Man smoking. This is now thought to be a Photoshopped fake, or at least the cigarette on the right side of his mouth is faked. There also appears to be some smoke on the left side of the Bridge Man’s face here. It’s not known if that smoke is real or faked. Bottom line be careful of this photo.

However, look at the composite below. See any massive nose? Of course not. So what gives?

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Composite photo of the Delphi Killer suspect.

Look back at that huge nose in the blowup. But no matter. It’s huge in any video of the Bridge Man. Many have remarked on his huge nose. But he has no huge nose. His nose is quite average. Solution to the problem? Simple, the Bridge Man is disguising himself by wearing a fake nose! Wa-la! Problem solved.

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A fake nose similar to the one the Bridge Man is wearing. This may be purchased for ~$5 online. One of my fellow sleuths has suggested that BG has a fake nose. A group of women on one of the saner Delphi Murders pages on Facebook first suggested this theory to me and I believe they made a good case for their argument. He’s disguising himself.

The motivation for this crime is hard to figure out, but we suspect it may be similar to many serial killers. Although there is no evidence yet that the Bridge Man has killed other people beyond this crime, he certainly may have. Hence we believe the Bridge Man is a “serial killer type” instead of a serial killer. In that case, the motivation for the crime is that of a sexually sadistic psychopathic serial type killer.

We know much more about the Bridge Man but are not releasing it due to fears of harming the investigation. All of this information was officially turned over to LE on Friday, July 21.

The Suspect

Suspect’s Background and Life Story

The suspect resides within a 20 mile radius of Delphi.

The suspect is a former resident who grew up in Delphi right around the area of the crime and still knows all of the landowners around there, including Ron Logan, Marvin Sandifur, the Mearses, and Ivan Brumbaugh. The suspect is either Amish (shunned), German Baptist or is strongly associated with one of those communities. He knows the area around the crime scene, including Logan’s land, Deer Creek itself, and the bridge like the back of his hand.

The suspect has a low education level but probably graduated from high school.

The suspect had a very messy divorce with his ex-wife, including violent child custody issues. The suspect did a short stint in prison for badly assaulting his ex-wife.

The suspect has a long record of mostly minor crimes with some jail stints and one short prison stint. All crimes were committed in Indiana. Crimes were mostly repeated drunk driving but also assault and harassment charges. All of his ex-wives have no-contact orders against him, which implies domestic violence on his part in each case.

In terms of crimes for which he has not been caught, he has been accused of petty theft. We also have suspicions that he may have been t\involved in arson, perhaps multiple arsons and that one or more of these arsons has resulted in homicide. We believe he may be a serial killer, and we suspect he may have been involved in at the very least one other multiple murder in the local area, although we cannot prove it and don’t have much evidence along those lines. We are currently investigating his background to look for other possible crimes he may be tied to, especially arsons and homicides.

The suspect is no longer employed and we believe he is on disability, but in the past he worked at different jobs, including handyman and electrician.

Suspect – Social Aspects

The suspect has strong, warm feelings towards his two grown children and seems to have a great relationship with them.

The suspect has a new girlfriend about his age who may be a native ethnic White of the region. She is a kind, sweet, gentle lady who absolutely adores the suspect and nearly worships him as a god. They appear to have a stable, warm, loving relationship. She is apparently completely clueless about his dark side.

Relations with the ex-wife are not known. Some say that the suspect has strong hatred for his ex-wife, but this is uncertain.

The suspect has a circle of warm friends with whom he has good relations. These are very masculine, tough, hard, outdoorsy men of about the same age who think he is completely on the up and up. We believe he’s fooling them all.

The suspect can seem quite warm and friendly, “like your best friend.” He is easy to befriend, when befriended seems charming and disarming, and seems increasingly harmless the more you get to know him.

Suspect – Psychological Profile

The subject has Axis 2 Cluster B pathology. The suspect is a psychopath and has narcissism/Narcissistic Personality Disorder/Malignant Narcissism. He has no Axis 1 Disorders. He is not psychotic. In fact, he is very sane, almost too sane, and that is part of how he gets away with his crimes. There are no signs of mood disorder. The suspect appears calm with little or no anxiety issues.

The suspect is strongly heterosexual. Although rage and hatred towards females seems apparent with the crime the suspect may have committed, these feelings are otherwise not obvious in his life. The suspect sometimes displays hostility to women. A lot of men do this when provoked, but he does it with little provocation, and his reactions are quite extreme, often including rape and death threats.

The suspect is very masculine in the manner of many middle-aged men in the area. He is a hard, tough man who uses foul language and has a rough and sometimes menacing way of speaking.

The suspect seems normal, but the following concepts also describe him well: sneaky, devious, unreadable, slick, bad boy, naughty, playful, outlaw, gleam in his eye, and rebellious. He appears to be hiding something or keeping a secret. There is a general feeling of what you see is not what you get.

The suspect is the ultimate chameleon. He is an enigma, puzzling and hard to figure out, an actor who sees life as a series of roles. He does not appear suspicious to most observers. Instead he hides in plain sight and blends right in with society. He is very capable of fooling people, an Academy award-winning actor who sees life is an endless series of roles to be played based on whatever the needs of the given situation may be.

The suspect is capable of fooling people so easily because he is a sneaky, devious, underhanded, conspiring and plotting man. Most of his actions are well plotted and planned, even calculated to the point of being choreographed. The suspect displays little spontaneity other than regular rages.

His IQ is surely within the 84-116 normal range (2/3 of the population) and probably within the 90-110 range (half the population), though he may be towards the lower end. However, the suspect is much more intelligent than he appears and possesses a sheer animal, devious, and cunning intelligence. In terms of this sort of intelligence, he has a genius IQ. He is a very hard man to fool, and he is an expert at reading others.

The suspect has a violent hair-trigger temper which can be set off at any time with little provocation. Although he has committed acts of serious violence in the past, this temper nevertheless generally takes a verbal rather than physical form and consists of menace, threats, stalking, harassment, terrorizing and intimidation.

The suspect takes little or no responsibility for his actions and blames others for everything. He attacks others and then claims to be acting in self-defense.

The suspect is a pathological liar. Reactions when caught in his pathological lying are temper tantrums, rage, ranting, and veiled threats via angry and menacing language.

In his court cases, the suspect engaged in shameless, pathological, defensive lying and blaming of others.

The suspect has the following life themes:

  • You can’t win.
  • They’ve got it in for me.
  • Life is a game.
  • I’m fooling them.

Suspect – Verbal Style

The suspect has a versatile verbal style and can seem sentimental, poetic, moving and even philosophical. He is capable of fooling people into thinking he is a person who cares deeply about life’s small and kind wonders.

Verbal defenses are denial, rage, rants, and especially redirection. Other defenses include an excellent ability at distracting people and directing attention away from what is important. For this, he utilizes red herrings, irrelevancies, redirection, minor details, fussing, wrong turns, wrong directions, wrong way streets, and misdirection.

The suspect is also a storyteller and likes to tell long, rambling, colorful, Mark Twain-style stories that tell it like it is about what seem to be ordinary people and communities but in fact are anything but. He can be entertaining in this role. He turns off some who find him a quasi-literate blowhard, but others find him endearing, as his stories could be seen as charming.

Suspect – Appearance, Lifestyle, Habits, Beliefs and Opinions

Appearance

The suspect has one large tattoo on his upper right front shoulder. We do not know what this is a tattoo of.

Lifestyle

The suspect has some sort of gang ties with the Aryan Brotherhood (AB), possibly as a result of his incarceration. We have photographs of the suspect throwing Aryan Brotherhood gang signs. Nevertheless, we have little evidence that he is a White Supremacist, and on his social media pages, he comes across as an anti-racist, even a coastal liberal variety. He may have only joined the AB for protection in prison.

The suspect appears to be a carefree practical joker who lives a playful, laid back, easy-going lifestyle where most things are jokes, and little is to be taken seriously. He is the life of the party.

Habits

The suspect is a regular drug user. He mostly uses marijuana, which he enjoys a lot.

The suspect was formerly a very heavy drinker, and many problems, especially legal ones, resulted from this. We believe he may now be sober.

Beliefs and Opinions

The suspect’s philosophical outlook can be summed up as a cynical one that humans are lowly animals who are corrupt at their core and are driven by low, base interests. He accuses LE and small town government people in the local area of being incorrigibly corrupt. His reaction to the picture he paints of Tobacco Road sleaze in the underbelly of Mayberry RFD small town White America is offended, cynical, fatalistic and somewhat disgusted – the good citizen outraged by omnipresent sleazy corruption.

The suspect has a very low opinion of LE in Delphi and the surrounding area, as he claims that they ran him out of town as a habitual drunk driving offender. He has a grudge against local LE.

The suspect’s political beliefs are quite liberal. He comes across as an aging hippie type, unusual for Indiana.

Suspect – Role in the Investigation

The suspect has inserted himself deeply in the investigation to an almost unprecedented degree. He is now one of the most well-known people who are “trying to find the killer.” We believe he is doing this in part to try to divert attention away from himself, but another factor seems to be narcissism, possibly even Malignant Narcissism, which means he can’t help himself. He loves the limelight and the sound of his own voice and is something of a publicity hound. We al so believe he likes the idea that he is hiding right under the noses of everyone and getting away with it and thinks this is all some sort of a joke.

The suspect’s attitude towards the investigation is hard to figure. We believe he is nervous and fearful of being caught but also sees the whole thing as a hilarious game of cat and mouse. He’s thinks he’s fooling LE and all of society, getting away with murder, and hiding right under their noses. He also seems to be playing a game of, “Neener neener. I’m the killer, and you’ll never catch me ha ha!” In this sense he resembles the Zodiac Killer and the BTK Killer.

The suspect sought out LE (FBI) early in the investigation in order to leave a tip. We have a video of him calling in this phone tip.

We believe he did this as part of a plan to frame an innocent man. We believe he was originally going to commit this crime and then lay low, but that changed after he was photographed and recorded on audio. Over the next month we believe he then formulated an elaborate case to try to frame an innocent man, a former workmate who he had had a falling out with. This consisted of a very long and elaborate theory which did not make much sense on examination. Further, the man he attempted to frame did not seem like the type to do such a crime. The suspect also included a number of videos as part of this plan. He then went out on the Internet and tried to promulgate this theory on a number of websites and on Facebook and Youtube. He was fairly successful at this until some people started catching on to his scheme.

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All Thoughts Are Legal: There Is No Such Crime as “Dangerousness”

LE get false confessions all the time. There have been ~500 false confessions to the Black Dahlia Murder.

There have been ~300 false confessions to the Zodiac Murders. A number of these guys were running around telling people that they were the Zodiac Killer.

In the Green River Killings, there were all sorts of idiots going around telling people they were the Green River Killer. I know that one was an attorney with an extreme hatred of prostitutes who often spoke about killing them. LE interviewed him several times but there was nothing to arrest or hold him on.

It’s perfectly legal in the US to claim to be a notorious murderer. It’s also legal to harbor extreme hatreds for women/prostitutes, etc. It’s legal to tell people that you are a serial killer. It’s legal to tell people you want to be a serial killer, you love fantasizing about rape and murder, and you are very afraid that you will act on these thoughts.

I know that in the Smiley Face Murders, a man presented to a police station saying he had strong fantasies of murdering people by drowning, and he was very afraid he was going to act on them. Police were unable to hold him on anything.

LE is 99% sure who the Lewiston Serial Killer of the 1970’s and early 1980’s is, but they just do not have enough evidence to take him to trial. He moved to Appalachia, and he may have continued killing to this very day. Also he may have done other murders than Lewiston.

The Portrait Killer is a man who preyed on gay men in San Francisco in the 1970’s. He met them in gay bars, took them home on the basis that he would draw their picture, drew a picture of them while they posed and then killed them. He killed ~10 gay men. LE says they think they know who the guy is. He has been interviewed a number of times, but they don’t have enough evidence on him to take him to trial, so he walks free to this very day.

You can say just about anything you want in this country, and even if you go to a therapist, it is very hard for them to lock you up as a danger to others based on what you tell them in therapy.

In the UK, it is quite a bit different, as people can indeed be locked up on “dangerousness” charges.

In the US, it’s not against the law to be dangerous or even dangerous as Hell for that matter. There are few if any laws in the US against thought crimes. You can think and feel any way you want to in this country, and there’s nothing LE or anyone else can do about it.

It sounds terrible to say it, but we really do have to wait until a dangerous person does something bad before we arrest them. Many such folks may never act on their thoughts or feelings. But if you think about it, we always have to wait until anyone, you, me, or anyone else, actually breaks the law or does something bad in order to arrest them. The more you think about it, the more sense it makes. You can’t arrest people for what they might possibly do in the future.

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