Additional evidence in favor of the Stacy Brown story. As you remember, I broke a story a while back about Stacy Brown being offered $500K for a supposed Bigfoot arm he dug up, selling it to a man from Ohio, then buying an alligator arm from a taxidermist and pitching it around to everyone as the Bigfoot arm to the point of even having it DNA tested to prove it was an alligator arm.
Most people have rejected this story, in particular, Randy did over at his blog. His idiot supporters claim that Randy proved that I was wrong. He did no such thing. He simply laid out the evidence and made his case that the story was not true. That’s all he did. He didn’t prove one single thing. As it stands now, no one has proven that the story is either true or false.
But I recently got corroboration from a second party about this story. This man is widely known in the community and has a good reputation. He is not a researcher so much as he is a reporter. Keep in mind that this man, though we are acquaintances, does not necessarily agree with me. In fact, he is dubious of a lot of my breaking stories because he thinks too many of them lack good supporting evidence. However, he did think there was something to this one. This is what he told me on October 1:
Hi…I was told by a reader and Bigfooter (who I believe to be honest) approx two weeks ago (on September 16) that Stacy Brown and an associate had a scheme in order to sell an actual Bigfoot arm (he said ‘body part’) to an enthusiast. I hadn’t heard or read anything else…but when I read your information, it seemed to be on the same wavelength.
Well at least the story has been corroborated coming from an independent source. That doesn’t mean it is true. But it does mean that it is not just coming from me – it is coming from independent sources also.
The nonsense about Rick Dyer. While there are some sites that milk the Dyer rumor mill for all it is worth, I have given up on it entirely. I must be honest and tell you that I and many of my friends and colleagues feel burned by Rick. He ripped off a lot of people, including us. That’s what he does. He rips people off. He’s a con artist. He doesn’t know how to do anything other than con.
About whether or not Rick shot a Bigfoot, whether he shot at it and missed, whether he shot at it, hit it and wounded it, whether he shot it and killed it, we will simply never know. However, I feel that it is quite clear that Rick was shooting at real Bigfoots that night. That is also a real Bigfoot in the Tent Video. And in Shooting Bigfoot, there are two real Bigfoots in the night scene – the first one that Rick is shooting at (maybe he misses it, maybe he hits it and wounds it, and maybe he kills it), and the second one that knocks Morgan Matthews down. There may also be a baby Bigfoot there. You can hear audio that sounds like one.
To me it is simply obvious that those are real Bigfoots in the Tent Video and in Shooting Bigfoot. The Dyer-haters have gone into conniptions trying to prove that this footage is faked, and they have failed utterly and completely. They have never produced the mask, costume or stunt man for the Tent Video. They have never produced anyone confessing it is fake. They have never produced the stunt men (two of them), masks, and costumes used by the stunt men in Shooting Bigfoot either, and they have had a lot of time. They have never produced one statement from anyone around the film stating that the scene was faked.
If those are obviously real Bigfoots in the night scenes, we know that Rick is shooting real bullets at them. How do we know this? Because Morgan Matthews stated that Rick was shooting real bullets that night. But after that, we know little. We do not know if the bullets missed the Bigfoot or hit it. And if they hit it, did they wound it or kill it? No one knows. Not only that, but we will probably never know, so there is not much point fighting about it. The anti-Dyer case is profoundly weak and truly preposterous. It rests on many absurd assumptions that defy all logic and common sense. Nevertheless, 99% of our community believes them totally.
Morgan Matthews was in on a hoax to hoax Bigfoot footage in a documentary movie. That is truly ridiculous. Anyway, documentaries must be truthful and cannot include faked or hoaxed footage.
The Bigfoots were produced with stunt men, masks, costumes or CGI. There are no credits for costume designers, special effects studios, stunt men or CGI in the final credits. There would have to be if any of those were used in the footage. The notion that Matthews would use any of these and not give credit for them is insane.
The entire scene was hoaxed by the film crew: You would think that with all the people in on this hoaxed movie, someone would have come forward now. That no one has come forward blowing the whistle is truly bizarre.
Masks, stunt men, and costumes were used. The problem is where are these masks? Where are these costumes? Which special effects studio produced them, if any? Matthews was operating on a tight budget and so was Rick. They could not afford to hire a fancy special effects studio. Then Rick would have had to have made them himself. How could Rick Dyer have made two of the greatest Bigfoot masks and costumes ever produced? Makes no sense at all.
The Bigfoot that hit Morgan is holding up a mask. They never proved that.
The Bigfoot that hits Morgan has a face that does not move. I do not believe this is important, nor does it prove that it is not a mask. Anyway, I am told that the face does move.
Morgan was slapped down and beat up by a stunt man: Matthews was beat up fairly bad after his encounter. Apparently all the Bigfoot/stunt man did was slap him down with its bare hand. Can you show me how any stunt man on Earth can slap another human being onto the ground with a bare palm, leaving them badly beat up by being slapped? Not possible. No way.
Morgan Matthews lied and said those were real bullets when they were really blanks. Come on. Get real now.
Rick was shooting real bullets, but he was shooting them at his stunt man, and he was deliberately missing. I do not think even Rick is nuts or evil enough to do so.
Matthews admitted that a stunt man in a costume knocked him over. The quote below is typical of this attitude. Yet it is 100% untrue. Nevertheless, probably 99% of our community believes this:
MM did end this. At the film showing in Edinburgh, when asked what had attacked him, he said he knew it was someone in a costume.
Yes, and that is not what he said in Edinburgh at all. In fact, I do not think he even addressed the question in Edinburgh.
Matthews admitted that the body was a fake. He did no such thing. Here is an example of this line:
Matthews admitted privately to someone closely connected to the movie that the so called “tent” video never happened and the alleged Bigfoot seen in Shooting Bigfoot was a guy in a suit.
Totally fake story. Apparently this is a deliberate lie put out by the Dyer haters. The Dyer haters put out and endless series of deliberate lies, passed out fake info and lies as truth to all sorts of good people, and just in general behaved with horrifying depravity all through this episode. The worst lie manufacturer of all was a scumbag named Don Boucher.
This man invented an endless series of lies and tall tales all proving that this was a scam. If I am not mistaken, the execrable Mr. Boucher made up this lie too and then passed it out as truth. I might add that liars like this guy make it all harder for us to do our job. I am sure that even Dyer haters like Randy do not appreciate being fed lies and crap from his own team. After all, Randy appears interested in uncovering the truth as many of us are.
Now we get to the meat of the story. The body. Rick has so massively and totally bungled this end of the story with his lying, cheating, stealing and general horrific criminal and sociopathic behavior that even if there is a body (still a possibility) I am quite certain that it will never see the light of day. Why? Because Rick Dyer destroyed this story so badly that any body that might exist can never be allowed to turn up. If you think this is odd, check out my past stories about Bigfoot shootings and killings.
There are over 100 documented Bigfoot shootings and 43 documented Bigfoot killings. Now we do not know if any of these are real. Those are just stories. But there are nearly 200 shooting stories and 43 killing stories. What do we have to show from all of that? We have jack. Nothing. F-all. Were there any real Bigfoots shot or killed in those 250-odd cases? Really no one knows. Not only that, but no one will ever know. Maybe they were, maybe they weren’t. Maybe there have been bodies in the past, maybe there haven’t. Maybe the stories are true, and maybe they aren’t. No one knows.
It’s all a big mystery. I would like to suggest that the Rick Dyer shooting and killing go down in history along with these other 250-odd tales of Bigfoots being shot and/or killed. I suppose it’s about as likely to be true as any of those other stories, and it has about as much evidence for truth as any of those other stories, which is zip, jack all, nada, nothing, none.
I think this is a good place to leave the Rick Dyer story. What could have been a great story, possibly even including a body, was utterly destroyed via the incompetence, sinister behavior, criminality and sociopathy of a two-bit con man and crook named Rick Dyer. Rick has now poisoned the well so badly that nothing truthful or provable can ever come out of this story. And we may as well just leave it at that.
The main problem here is that the finest Bigfoot footage since the Patterson film, the Tent Video and the Shooting Bigfoot footage, is now also tainted for all of time. The finest Bigfoot footage ever shot is now regarded by 99% of our community as a pitiful hoax. And the sole reason for that is because this killer footage is associated with Rick Dyer. Because it is associated with Dyer, it is hoaxed, goes the obvious logical fallacy. If we can get over the unproductive and probably unprovable argument over a body which will in all probability never turn up anyway, we ought to be talking about the movie footage. But we aren’t. And we never will. And that is a tragedy.
Charges never answered. Rick-haters have posted these questions a long time ago. It is very interesting that none of these questions have been answered, even partially. These questions revolve around the idea that the San Antonio footage was a hoax:
1. Whose idea it was.
2. How the whole thing was developed.
3. Who was in on it: Dyer, Musky, FBFB, Matthews, some of them, all of them?
4. When Musky came into it.
5. What role FBFB played in funding, whether it was as collaborators or supporters.
6. How and when the Tent Video was made.
7. Who was in on it during the doc filming, and what costume was used.
8. Whether Matthews was in on it altogether, and if not then why he agreed to keep quiet and play along rather than expose Dyer’s outrageous assault, which arguably would have been a more devastating conclusion to a film about desperate men
9. Whether Dyer will ultimately escape the wrath of those with grievances against him
It is stunning that skeptics are no closer to answering any of these questions than they were when those questions were published. The problem is that none of those questions can be answered because they are all based on a false premise that the San Antonio footage was hoaxed.
Other players. The problem with the nutty conspiracy line is that it has to include all sorts of people. We can’t just agree that Rick is a scumbag who took a lot of good folks, for a ride, nope! His victims have to be in on it!
Here is something of the idiocy being tossed about attempting to implicate FB/FB and Musky Allen in “the hoax,” which incidentally they have never proven to be a hoax. If they mean the fake body, then clearly FB/FB were badly burned victims here, and Musky, instead of being in on it, was the hoax-buster who uncovered it and pulled the plug!
There is not one single word of truth in any of the following:
Matthews must have at least planned the end scenes with Dyer. If Matthews was attacked by a real Bigfoot (which he wasn’t), then Dyer’s story about shooting one would most likely stand up. (which it didn’t) If there was a dead Bigfoot body then a professional cameraman would have conclusive, in-focus 100% undeniable footage (Which there isn’t any).
Plainly Matthews movie set out to take the piss out of redneck Bigfoot hunters, He got all the redneck stuff but needed a big finale, what better than “I was attacked by a Bigfoot…believe it or not.” Then he went home and kept his mouth shut so he could air his movie, mission accomplished. He used Dyer as a the egotistical fool he is, then pissed on him, so good on MM.
FB/FB were coming out with a book and needed promotion, when they heard dyer was in a BF movie = they paid dyer thousands to help promote the book. Lynk and Clancy said someone gave him thousands$.
Of course MM was in on it you fools. If he didn’t agree to keep his mouth shut in some form of agreement with Dyer he would have blabbed about Dyer lying.
Mathews needed a ending for his movie, otherwise that movie was just another yawn fest BF documentary.
FB/FB wanted to push sales on their sorry book which wouldn’t of sold any with out the hype of this hoax.
Rug Boy paid Musky Allen = as soon Allen gets paid he does interview with FB/FB on Youtube about viewing the body.
There’s no way Matthews wasn’t in on it. Come on…they’re out in the woods together, just the two of them? How does Dyer coordinate a hoax on Matthews out there? Matthews may be a sissy but he didn’t become a successful director by being oblivious to what’s going on around him.
I just moseyed over to https://www.facebook.com/FindBigfoot for the first time in a while and there’s a pretty interesting discussion that’s been going on in the comments among Larry Perkins and some others. We have to remember that this has to go deeper than Dyer to have gone so far, and we need to be as enraged at his accessories (or handlers) as much as him. In my mind that includes Matthews and Issleb, but I’ve been back-and-forth about “Jack Barnes.”
The recent comments over there, including some long ones from Perkins, actually have put me back onto thinking FBFB was in on it…you just can’t look past their claims that seven people and two MD’s examined the body and thought it was real, or at least couldn’t say it wasn’t. That is absolutely laughable.
Was it a psychological experiment? A scam to sell books? Both? They and Musky have been tied together so closely from the beginning, culminating in their trip to see Musky after the premiere to get him to verify the creature when the movie didn’t cause a stir.
They actually claimed to show him many frames from the film which “Musky” absolutely verified as the same creature he saw, and which they then claimed they deleted because of “copyright concerns” without showing anyone else…no other researchers or anyone saw it but Musky. Why not show someone with real credibility if it was truly better than PGF??? Even in private???? That was the big clue right there that they had to make up a quick scenario to keep things going, and it worked.
I’ve been back and forth but now I’m back. Consider that “Jack Barnes” is a successful businessman with a lot of money to blow…these kinds of men are not wishy-washy doormats such as the profile that’s been created to support the theory that he was not in on it. Being calculating and devious is one way to build a fortune, but being a starry-eyed fool is decidedly not.
I strongly disagree that Dyer should be held totally separate from Matthews and Musky and FBFB. It’s a matter of degree.
Dyer may be the ugly face of the thing, and he may regularly go rogue with horrible actions that they wouldn’t condone, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t responsible for creating the monster and constantly nourishing it.
If Matthews and Dyer cooked this up, then Dyer is the instrument, but Matthews is just as culpable and should be held equally accountable for all of Dyer’s misdeeds. Even if Dyer pulled the hoax on Matthews and he simply “went with it,” its really no different. That’s true in any court of law and should be true in this case.
Surely Musky is equally accountable. Whether he planned it with Dyer or came in as an “accessory after the fact” is strictly a matter for the sentencing judge.
As for Barnes and the FBFB gang, they either helped plan and finance it; came in after the incident to promote their agenda; or were duped and just ran with it. Again, it’s a matter of degree.
Dyer could not have done this without Matthews, Musky, and Barnes. Barnes is the only one who could be completely innocent (except of being a fool), but that is looking less likely day by day.
The idea that Matthews or Musky should be applauded for sticking it to Dyer after collaborating with him is giving Dyer too much credit and giving them too much benefit of the doubt. Whatever Matthews and Musky may have done “to” Dyer (lessening the impact of the movie’s BF footage and exposing the fake tour body, respectively), it’s not the same as them totally going “state’s evidence” with clear confessions that publicly hang Dyer out to dry.
And the “Matthews is just a filmmaker” arguments ring hollow to me. He didn’t make Citizen Kane. If anything, exposing Dyer in the film or at any point afterward would have heightened the profile of a film that’s turned out to be just another one of a million documentaries no one cares about anymore. As as Dyer started pulling his shenanigans like accusing Liam Gray of bestiality, Matthews was the only one who could have shut him down, and he didn’t.
Documentary be damned…but Matthews was in too deep I think, and would have exposed his own complicity. At the very least he would have to admit that his “documentary” hedged on telling the whole story, which could affect his reputation. He wasn’t “hyping” a movie like it was some Hollywood blockbuster, he was keeping his ass covered.
That’s my belief at least.
Musky Allen. The argument is that Musky was in on the “hoax” from the very start. They have never proven this. In fact, they have never presented the tiniest bit of evidence that he was in on any sort of a hoax at any time. In fact, the best evidence indicates that he actually uncovered the part of this even that was hoaxed – the fake body taken on tour. So instead of being a hoaxer, Musky instead is the opposite. He is just like the folks at Randy’s blog – a hoax-buster!
The report with resulting audio of Musky’s visit to look at the body of Hank in some government facility has never been disproven, despite tremendous effort expended to do so. I find the report to be very convincing, but then that means that there had to be a body, for which there is not a lot of evidence. In fact, some of the only evidence in favor of a body is Musky’s testimony.
The problem is that Musky’s testimony has not been proven true either. Did he go see a real body at this facility? Was he shown a fake body? Was the physician there at the time a stunt man placed there by Rick? Was this a real government facility? Where was it located? Which branch of the government had the body? Why did the body smell like formaldehyde and embalming fluid?
The truth is that just as skeptics can not and will probably never prove that the Musky body-viewing was made up and never occurred, those of us who find it convincing in spite of the fact that it implies a body will probably never be able to prove that the Musky episode occurred at all. Perhaps it happened. Perhaps he was shown a fake with stunt men. Perhaps he made up the whole thing and is such a great actor that he ought to move to Hollywood.
In Bigfoot history, once again there is nothing new here. If you look at my past body reports, you will see that there have been a number of cases of witnesses reporting that bodies were taken by government officials or were taken to government labs or research hospitals to be studied. The stories have never been proven, but they have never been shown to be lies either. They are just unsolved mysteries which will remain so for all of time. And so it is with the Musky Allen body viewing story – another mystery that will never be solved.
Even more dubious is that Musky was in on “the hoax” from the very start. All accounts suggest that Musky was a particularly belligerent loudmouthed skeptic who dared Rick to prove his body claim. Rick then took him up on the offer. He later produced a Paul on the road to Damascus audio in which he seemed, stunned, shocked, emotional and newly converted to an unwanted but necessary belief that these creatures were real.
He then reluctantly takes up with Rick based on his conversion experience. Much nonsense follows, including an episode in which he taints all prior testimony by admitting to lying a few times, first about the location of the body and then about feeling me wrong information (which he never did). Sorry this story also has a sorry and sleazy ending, but the skeptics have still never proven that Musky was “in on the hoax.” In fact, other than the fake body, there have never proven that the rest of the story was a hoax at all, try as they might.
Facebook Find Bigfoot. These guys are some of the true losers in this event. They got taken for a ride badly with Rick’s fake body, investing $50,000 in what turned out to be an elaborate hoax that even fooled two physicians. Their reputation in the community is very poor, which is sad because they are very good people. They are regarded as hoaxers and of course they are not. Both are furious at Rick and are considering taking legal action against him, which I can now report for the first time.
What about Andrew Clacy? Just another guy who got played. Andrew is a rather sleazy person, as you can see in the report below someone who knew this scammer back when he was in high school. But then again, this is Late Capitalism we are living in now, and just how many successful folks are not scammers in one way or another anyway? You scam, you win, you play fair, you lose. Late Capitalism is a pond where the scum rises to the top. Virgins and altar boys live hand to mouth when they are not homeless and living out of their cars.
I went to school with Andrew Clacy and now live in the same town. He was full of it at school, and many of his Internet sites prey on the gullible & lonely ( funny that’s how I would describe Clacy). I only got interested in this when Clacy went on local TV saying he was going on tour with a dead Bigfoot.
Straight away I new it would be a hoax. Then I researched Dyer and it all fitted together. I listened to Clacy’s interview and it sounded just like school days. “It wasn’t me miss, I didn’t do it, he made me”. Strangely though he is dumb enough to have been sucked in. But he did say at the start he knew for sure it was real, and he did take part in fleecing money from people. Seems all involved are full-time losers. Glad people are waking up to Clacy. He got blood (if not from a Bigfoot) on his hands.
I do not believe that this is accurate. As we can see, back in school days, Clacy saw the economic writing on the wall and decided to be a successful scammer, er, I mean capitalist! He got involved in the Internet “industry,” surely one of the slimiest, dirtiest and filthiest scam-filled capitalist cesspools, er, I mean industries, on Earth. It’s utterly unregulated, so it’s crawling with liars, cheaters and thieves. In fact you will probably run across 50 people trying to rip you off on the Internet for every one you find in real life. That’s because fraud in real life is illegal (except in India) except on the Internet, where fraud is apparently perfectly legal, thanks to the “don’t regulate the Internet” scum screaming at the top of their lungs every time we try to do something about it.
I figure Clacy figured this was another one of his barely legal Net type scams from the start. He wasn’t sure if the thing was real or not. He didn’t say it was real from the start. I have an inside quote from him from inside TT where he says he is 70% sure it is real. As the tour went on, I have no idea what he thought, but I am certain that he was not certain it was a fraud. We are told that he was getting more and more angry and suspicious as the tour went on.
After Musky and Jeff Barnes uncovered the fake body, Clacy immediately packed up shop and left disgustedly, which was the proper and decent thing to do. I doubt if he did this because his scam was now uncovered. He probably did it because it was the respectable thing to do, and because he was angry at being one more victim of Rick’s scams.
And here is the latest nutty news about Rick. Quote:
Big news on the Rick Dyer front.
Bigfoot press conference will be in Atlanta on Jan 15 2015, Dyer says Hank has been in Georgia since Sept 12, 2012. There will be 26 experts who worked on Hank speaking at the presser. Hank is frozen in a large case and will eventually go to a museum. Dyer invited David Durrett and Pinkfoot to come back if they want. Press conference will be in a 400 plus venue, 100 seats for press. Dyer to release photo of freezer truck and photo of Hank dead. Yikes.
Well, this is most interesting, but Rick has promised us this press conference for some time now, and over and over, it has proven to be a false alarm. It is time to yawn at all of these claims and say put up or shut up. If and when Rick has a body, he needs to show it to us, fake or not. Then we will evaluate if it is even real, as this scumbag has already presented us with two fake bodies. If he has a real body, great. He will go down in history, though this honor could not happen to a less deserving person. Until then, we should not put much stake in this boy who cried wolf announcements.
Update: Rick has recently stated that this press conference may be delayed again and there is a good possibility that it will not even occur. So here we go again, with the endless delays. Really this guy needs to be ignored until once again he shows us something we can examine.
Great Wild Bigfoot Tales. Some great stories about close human Bigfoot encounters, including Bigfoots being hit by trains and trucks, being shot at by teams of humans and a man who was attacked and kill by a Bigfoot. The man even has a name! Note, about the man killed in Alaska, should we not try to track down his relatives or ancestors?
Unknown City, Hwy 101 location, January 1973. A truck driver hit a 7 foot Bigfoot on US 101. The front of the logging truck was badly damaged, but there was no report on the condition of the Bigfoot.”
Powers, Oregon. One Bigfoot was hit by a train, and a farmer kept it in a barn until it was better.
Portland, Oregon. A Bigfoot was hit and was on the side of the road.
Nulato, Alaska: Albert Petka of Nulato, AK was attacked by a reported Bigfoot on his boat. His dogs drove the creature off, but Mr. Petka later died of his injuries.
Meadville, Mississippi: In 1868, a hair-covered, bipedal creature was pursued by hunters with hounds after terrorizing people in Meadville, MS. The hounds chased the creature westward to the banks of the Mississippi River where they bayed it. When the hunters got there, they urged the dogs onward, and the dogs tried to catch it (dogs are commonly used to catch wild hogs, etc.).
The creature killed one of the dogs, and the men began to fire at it, at which time it leaped into the river and swam for the other side. It should be noted that the river is very wide at this point.