When the Group in Power Starts Claiming Victimhood and Agitating for More Rights, Duck and Cover and then Get Out

Whites just can’t get together and organize for White interests without turning into complete racist shits. I think it is because we are the majority. When the majority who has most of the power starts demanding more rights, that’s a good clue that it’s going to be bigoted, nasty, and ugly.

Blacks, Hispanics, American Indians, even Muslims they can all organize for their rights without being racist shitwads. For some reason, Whites can’t do that.

Maybe if we were a minority like them, it might be different. I imagine Whites in South Africa have a reasonable cause.

Maybe only minorities or truly oppressed or underrepresented people can organize without turning into bigoted fucks.

Why would a majority group that already has outsized power and money, that is more oppressive than oppressed, and that is overrepresented rather than underrepresented, agitate for rights?

When people on top running things start screaming about discrimination and needing more rights, watch out.

Jews in Israel, Hindus in Kashmir, Chinese in Xinjiang, Turks in Turkey, Arabs in the Arab World, Pashtuns in Afghanistan, Brahmins in India, Muslims in various Muslim lands, Sinhalese in Sri Lanka, Burmese in Myanmar, Indonesians in Timor and Irian Jaya, Sunnis in Sunni states…it’s never a pretty picture.

Usually there is a genocide of one type or another, lots of ethnic cleansing, onset of fascism, lots of the weaker group getting slaughtered by the stronger group…It doesn’t work. The group on top doesn’t need more rights and when they get pissed and start yelling for more rights than they already have, typically a lot of people get killed.

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32 responses to “When the Group in Power Starts Claiming Victimhood and Agitating for More Rights, Duck and Cover and then Get Out

  1. Jason Y

    Movements where the majority demands more rights is always populated by bullies. Take East Tennessee, for instance; where are the minorities? There are none, but there is always a group of white ass-wipes ready to go on the charge, imagining persecution. Note it’s these same types who spent their whole school years bullying wimps, fags, non-whites, you name it.

    OK, these white guys are never pushed around growing up – but maybe they did a stint in the army or prison where they were. OK, but it doesn’t change the fact that most of their life they were pushing people around. In fact, as Trash used to note, the bullying in prison etc. seems like payback!

  2. Jason Y

    I wouldn’t say it’s just whites. Any place with a majority where the majority whines about persecution is the same. For instance, in Atlanta or somewhere surely blacks are constantly whining about persecution and crying yet beat up whites – not even just weak ones.

  3. Jason Y

    A person can live in an area of a different race and if they play the cards right, nobody beats them up. However, though, there is so much “rubbing it in”, so much crying and whining – when hypocritically they simply treat minorities in their own area the same – that the hypocrisy is obvious.

    Also, in a related thing, Indians probably consider themselves persecuted or something, yet are incredibly racist and especially take computer jobs. This lead to a rise in this Trump phenomenon I think as it’s just whites becoming racist pricks to get back at Indians etc..

  4. Jason Y

    Well, at least on this site, a person even mildly suggesting that white supremacy is wrong is labeled a cuck – which basically means “sell-out pussy” So, obviously, that’s s perfect example of “majority rights” becoming an tyrannical thing.

    Yeah, constant heckling of pussy, cuck, nigger lover, “you suck” or whatever on the level more extreme than the worst baseball game seems to be the style nowadays.

    • Sisera

      But Robert has purged the site of those types.

      • Sisera

        due to their unironic love of trump.

        • Dude. Get it through your head.

          This is an Alt Left site. The Alt Left HATES Trump. At the same time, it also hates a lot of the Cultural Left and SJW’s.

          We hate SJW’s AND we hate Trump. We are the anti-SJW Left and all Leftists must oppose Trump. I refuse to recognize any Alt Left person who supports Trump except maybe accelerationists.

      • Jason Y

        Yeah, they have seemed to disappeared. But I don’t think they’re doing their cause much good. It just lends more evidence to the fact they have low emotional intelligence, just like the blacks, Latinos, they claim have it.

        And mark my word these WNs were bullied by low EQ/IQ non-whites, hence their general disgust with them, though, these WN types often do the same.

        So this is just some childish “getting mad at others for stuff you do yourself”.

        • Sisera

          BIOGRAPHY OF ALT-RIGHTIST:
          Born to an upper middle class burbian White family, had some social disorder (possibly diagnosed, possibly not) that caused them to be rejected by their White liberal/hipster peers.

          Were bullied by NAMs bused into their burb school, and at the early days of adolescence they found 4Chan and other dark enlightenment sites.
          They are smart but not geniuses, however they put all their self worth in supposedly genius IQs and their place relative to their peers.

          On the same dark enlightenment sites they learn their White liberal/hipster peers were actually (((White liberal peers))) and that Blacks are ‘worthless’.

          They will get a 1300/1600 on the SAT and hence be rejected to Harvard, but then blame “Jewish nepotism”.

          Eventually they will a decent paying IT job but have no social life and haunt boards like this after work.

        • Jason Y

          Is this the commentator Trash?

          OK, yeah, I can sympathize with alt-right people and their feelings of being bullied. However, though, they’re really being bad sports about it. So it seems more like some “hurt pride” issue with them. Maybe if they could just learn that power, money, influence isn’t everything in life

        • Jason Y

          Myself, given my thin, lanky body I will probably never get any respect from people – unless of course, I took massive steroids. Bottom line, unless I got money, which I have none, I will get no attention from females anytime in my life.

        • Jason Y

          IT Job? OK, well that explains a lot of the hate. I’m telling you the whole alt-right stuff is coming from hatred of Indians stealing jobs!

        • Sisera

          “I can sympathize with alt-right people and their feelings of being bullied. However, though, they’re really being bad sports about it. So it seems more like some “hurt pride” issue with them. Maybe if they could just learn that power, money, influence isn’t everything in life”

          Agreed, but what I cannot abide is this broad brushed ‘if you object to SJWism, you must be a White Male ID-Pol Nazi’ which this blogger seems to believe…..
          Did it ever occur that the mainstream Breitbart type alt-right began using White ID pol and White ID pol logic as an ironic mockery of the Black and Hispanic ID pol?
          That MRAs do much the same, and both groups have, outside rhetoric, largely only sought to eliminate laws that inherently, openly and directly discriminate against them?

          If you want to criticize the anti-SJW movement, you have to do it in good faith. You have to use specific examples. You cannot use strawmen.
          If you do, you are a SJW-sympathizing concern troll who’s aiding in the divide and conquer game.

        • Sisera

          One thing that the cultural left has never been able to do is address the “relative numbers”.

          iirc Richard Spencer gathered like 100 followers to the Tiki-Torch rally and
          MRAs gathered a fraction of 1% of the vote in the only UK constituency election where they stood.

          This, as opposed to how many non-Whites who openly admit hatred of Whites? Hundreds of thousands, if not millions? This as opposed to how many woman openly hate men?
          And of course one side is acting on these feelings, versus another who merely trolls internet forums.

          So again, I can only assume this ‘parity’ argument is concern trolling.

        • Sisera

          I might get banned for this…but this site has swung far too much in the SJW direction.

          Mention that ‘MRAs aren’t as bad as radfems’ and you get a barrage of what seem to be feminist talking points about “men oppressing women”.

          Hopefully that is an isolated incident.

        • This is actually what I believe. I hate most feminists because they are crazy man-hating scum who are bad and dangerous for me as a man. I don’t like hostile people, and feminists are hostile to me.

          MRA’s are about as bad as Radfems. They’re not as angry and they don’t hate women as much as radfems hate men. Radfems have a lot of excellent analysis and a lot of what they say is right. I commented on a site of theirs recently but now they are trying to throw me off because they have a 1,000 point ideological checklist and I already broke two of the core beliefs. Also they hate us men so much, I don’t see why any man should support them. MRA’s, incels, MGTOW’s, and PUA’s also have a lot of excellent analysis. I read lots of people even on complete opposites of the spectrum.

          MRA’s: It’s all about the mens! LOL. Oh and by the way, we hate women too.

          Radfems: It’s all about the womens! Oh and by the way, we really really really hate men.

          Both are full of shit in a million ways and both are ideologies instead of coherent analysis. Ideologies are always short on truth and long on bullshit.

          Both the core projects of MRA and feminism deserve support, so I am a feminist (equity feminist and maybe sex-positive feminist), and I am also a sort of an MRA. Both sides, while being insanely full of shit, also make a lot of good points and do great analysis that more people should check out.

          MRA is the other side of the insane feminist mirror. MRA’s are just feminists backwards. Every time a feminist says “man” put in “women” and every time a feminist says “women” put in “men” and wa-la! You have MRA. Both sides are completely wrapped up in the own stupid gender identity that they think is the center of the universe when it’s not even all that important. They’re all wrapped in their oppression, which is wildly exaggerated. Neither side feels that the other side has victims too. Both sides think the other side has nothing but oppressors.

          You must understand that I am an MRA who hates 99% of the Manosphere, and a feminist who hates most feminists.

          Masculinism is a valid POV, especially for men. We have some concerns and issues that we need to stand up and fight for. But most open MRA-identified people are idiots, psychos and insane people. The same can be said about feminism.

          I was just ordered off the radfem lunatic site for saying, “Men are victims too.” That’s illegal. You are not allowed to talk about males as anything other than oppressors and the only oppression that is ok to talk about is that of women.

          See, they’re insane people.

        • LOL not an SJW. Most people think MRA’s are lunatics. MRA is just more screaming from IP ideologues, but this time the IP is Male IP. All IP is the same and it’s all shit. SJW’s suck. They do attack MRA’s, White nationalists and some other IP’s that they hate and they make good points, but they do so from a POV of their own insane IP so it’s silly.

          Dude. ALL IP is shit. All of it. You can be a masculinist and be for the men without being a screaming MRA retard.

        • Jason Y

          Never said I disagree with SJWs – only the modern ones who have went insane. Perhaps around the year 2000 or so, it went into hyper-drive where trannies, gays and the like began demanding indoctrination of children and also demanded equal restrooms and the like.

        • Jason Y

          The whole idea of child indoctrination is especially scary as far as goes, because I believe being gay or tranny is wrong. I mean, it’s not like stuff liked mixed race marriages or something, this is beyond that by a million percent. Like I said, moderate SJW stuff like what we saw in the 90s or earlier is fine, not what it is now.

          I suppose one big shock was seeing John Oliver show a child’s book saying being gay is OK.

        • Jason Y

          “I can sympathize with alt-right people and their feelings of being bullied. However, though, they’re really being bad sports about it. So it seems more like some “hurt pride” issue with them. Maybe if they could just learn that power, money, influence isn’t everything in life”

          Agreed, but what I cannot abide is this broad brushed ‘if you object to SJWism, you must be a White Male ID-Pol Nazi’ which this blogger seems to believe…..
          Did it ever occur that the mainstream Breitbart type alt-right began using White ID pol and White ID pol logic as an ironic mockery of the Black and Hispanic ID pol?
          That MRAs do much the same, and both groups have, outside rhetoric, largely only sought to eliminate laws that inherently, openly and directly discriminate against them?

          Well, I’m against whites wanting special favors for being white, just as racist blacks, Latinos, you name it, want special favors. Well, I can see special favors in some instances, like disabled parking places, but you get the point.

          But of course, ass-wipe 4-channers are taking the whole use the racist non-white logic as mockery to an unforeseen level and it’s very disturbing

          Well, I think it all started with South Park, myself..

      • Dude, this site repels everyone. The whole idea of this site was to be so offensive that everyone would hate it. I’m trying to piss off and alienate everyone. So far it’s working.

        • Jason Y

          You ‘d have to be an oversensitive insane person to really take any of this site to heart. Myself, I see it as sort of an acid trip – nothing to take seriously.

          In reality, nobody could think as these blog posts suggests as part of their everyday reality. In fact, people are much more normie – and that’s a good thing.

          So that also leads me to another thought about drug use, emotional intelligence, 4-chan, South Park etc.. If everything’s a joke, nothing is sacred, well, that seems to be the mark of childishness – and devilish-ness I think. It’s sort of like black people burning people alive in Africa and laughing. At some point, but maybe low emotional intellegence, low IQ stops them, people should grow up!

        • Jason Y

          Note I got the Africa thing from the Luke Ford site. Anyone been there? He’s another race realist. So he was talking about how people with a low IQ often exhibit no empathy so everything is literally like a Tom and Jerry cartoon!

        • “Agreed, but what I cannot abide is this broad brushed ‘if you object to SJWism, you must be a White Male ID-Pol Nazi’ which this blogger seems to believe…”

          I hate SJW’s myself dude, I guess I must be a White male ID-Pol Nazi.

          WTF are you talking about, Sisera? Most White people oppose anti-White nonsense, of course, but how many marches in the tiki march.

          A lot of men dislike anti-male laws and whatnot, but how many become MRA hebephrenics?

          I mean you can desire equal rights for your race and your gender without turning into a psychotic fucktard about it.

          I think you are an MRA. You cite MRA rhetoric straight out of the book. You think men are oppressed and always have been. LOL. I am happy you hate SJW’s. But SJW’s are just IdPol boneheads that the SJW’s like. White IdPol and MRA’s are simply the IdPol movements that the SJW’s hate. They like some IdPols and they hate others, but it’s all IdPol.

          Did it ever occur that the mainstream Breitbart type alt-right began using White ID pol and White ID pol logic as an ironic mockery of the Black and Hispanic ID pol?

          It’s not ironic, pal. Breitbart is actually White IdPol Lite these days. Hell, so is the damned Republican Party. It is turning into an openly racist party for racist Whites. And it’s not ironic. Breitbart is not sophisticated enough to do irony.

          That MRAs do much the same, and both groups have, outside rhetoric, largely only sought to eliminate laws that inherently, openly and directly discriminate against them?

          MRA’s are not ironically mocking feminism! Ah, if only it were so. They actually believe this male oppression insanity! And while they have some good points, the problem is that like radfems, who also have good points, is that 99% of them are drooling lunatics, just like radfems. So you can support some of what MRA’s and even radfems are saying without going full retard and joining their encephalatic movements.

          And White IdPol does not make reasonable demands. American Renaissance is on the moderate end of White IdPol. Do you have any of the nature of the racist project that they dream of?

          Furthermore, many MRA’s talk crazy, talk about taking away women’s rights including right to vote, and the whole movement is shot through with the wildest misogyny. Their webpages look like the home of ranting maniacs.

          Neither White IdPol or MRA is sensible or reasonable in the slightest. And if the MRA’s got in power, I really do fear for women. After all, as you noticed, I am a feminist. I have always been a moderate feminist. I am a feminist who hates almost all feminists.

          Feminists have some great ideas but the people active in the movement are mostly just kooks, dykes, misandrists, and insane people. They almost all have an extreme hatred of men and political lesbianism is everywhere. As a rule, feminists HATE men. On the other hand, numerous feminist goals are worth supporting.

          If you want to criticize the anti-SJW movement, you have to do it in good faith. You have to use specific examples. You cannot use straiten.

          I am not criticizing anti-SJW people. Do you realize what the Alt Left is? The Alt Left is the movement of the anti-SJW Left. The problem with anti-SJW’s is that almost 100% of them are Republicans and reactionaries. Sure, SJW’s blow, but they’re better than Republicans. You don’t crap on one ideology only to replace it with a worse one.

          Dude! I have been hanging around White IdPol forever? You know how long I have been hanging out on the Alt Right? Long before there was an Alt Right. I have read extensively all over the Manosphere for years now. I know these movements like the back of my hand.

          And I am telling you, my strawman description is precisely what they are like. You don’t see many sane people in either movement. Mostly just ranting, furious fanatic ideologues.

          If you do, you are a SJW-sympathizing concern troll who’s aiding in the divide and conquer game.

          LOL wut. You are doing the crazy IdPol game. If you are not with us, you are with the enemy. Have you ever considered that I hate SJW’s, MRA’s and White IdPol’ers all together? I can’t stand any of them. Get it? I am not the enemy. I am not with any of you lol.

  5. Jason Y

    I might get banned for this…but this site has swung far too much in the SJW direction.

    Mention that ‘MRAs aren’t as bad as radfems’ and you get a barrage of what seem to be feminist talking points about “men oppressing women”.

    Hopefully that is an isolated incident.

    He will make some post bashing feminists pretty soon, reversing what he said about “identity politics”. Basically, I don’t really know where he’s coming from – as he said, he’s trying to get under everyone’s skin, LOL.

    • This site isn’t even really real. In a way, it is sort of a huge put-on. I am trolling the whole damn with this ridiculous website. And yeah, I am trying to piss off as many people as possible. That’s the essence of the troll, really.

  6. Jason Y

    “I can sympathize with alt-right people and their feelings of being bullied. However, though, they’re really being bad sports about it. So it seems more like some “hurt pride” issue with them. Maybe if they could just learn that power, money, influence isn’t everything in life”

    Agreed, but what I cannot abide is this broad brushed ‘if you object to SJWism, you must be a White Male ID-Pol Nazi’ which this blogger seems to believe…..
    Did it ever occur that the mainstream Breitbart type alt-right began using White ID pol and White ID pol logic as an ironic mockery of the Black and Hispanic ID pol?

    The movement to hate women etc..is overkill. If people feel like feminists are oppressing them, then they can do what guys have done for centuries – fucking ignore them Go to strip club, look at some online porn, get laid – but make sure with women who are not SJWs or SJW sympathetic.

    Lots of guys pass thru life with SJWs being as remote as if they were on Mars.

  7. Jason Y

    If you want to criticize the anti-SJW movement, you have to do it in good faith. You have to use specific examples. You cannot use strawmen.
    If you do, you are a SJW-sympathizing concern troll who’s aiding in the divide and conquer game.

    Good. Divide and conquer? Yes, especially after Trump is the president.

    Yes, I want the alt-right to be clowns on Jerry Springer again. Bring those days back! 😆 To put it lightly, those were the days when the alt-right was in their place! ha ha…

  8. Jason Y

    One thing that the cultural left has never been able to do is address the “relative numbers”.

    iirc Richard Spencer gathered like 100 followers to the Tiki-Torch rally and
    MRAs gathered a fraction of 1% of the vote in the only UK constituency election where they stood.

    This, as opposed to how many non-Whites who openly admit hatred of Whites? Hundreds of thousands, if not millions? This as opposed to how many woman openly hate men?
    And of course one side is acting on these feelings, versus another who merely trolls internet forums.

    So again, I can only assume this ‘parity’ argument is concern trolling.

    A lot of the non-white hate is bullshit. They don’t really hate whites and these women don’t really hate men. However, the core followers of white IP are certainty full of real hate and it’s no joke.

    • Jason Y

      Compare also the millions of whites who hate non-whites, but it’s more a cute thing. It’s not expanded to them become white nationalists. So I wouldn’t say that’s real hate but just a reaction to reality – just as when millions of non-whites hate whites.

    • Jason Y

      How much of the non-white hate against whites or visa versa is real vs parroting? I mean, a lot of people hate cause it’s the normie behavior of the land. It’s kind of like how people who smoke often do so cause all their friends smoke.

      When I was in Korea, people were brought up to hate Japan. In Tennessee, thousands are brought up to latenly hate blacks. OK, but how much of it is real hardcore ??

  9. Jason Y

    Agreed, but what I cannot abide is this broad brushed ‘if you object to SJWism, you must be a White Male ID-Pol Nazi’ which this blogger seems to believe…..
    Did it ever occur that the mainstream Breitbart type alt-right began using White ID pol and White ID pol logic as an ironic mockery of the Black and Hispanic ID pol?

    They did at first, but now they are truly acting like the douchebags in the other IP movements. Even among moderate types, it can only evolve toward becoming more hardcore. Just like how probably not all non-white IP sympathizers really hate whites, but over time, it gradually evolves to becoming more hardcore and angry.

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