Alt Left: The Alt Left Position on Identity Politics

This really ought to be the official Alt Left statement on Identity Politics of all types in general.

The Alt Left position on Identity Politics is that in general we are opposed to all IP.

White nationalist/White IP: Non-whites deserve to be hated because physical science proves that they’re evil and inferior. Non-Whites hate us Whites! Therefore, the Non-Whites are evil and we Whites need to separate from them. Our White hatred is good and their Non-White hated is bad! The Non-Whites attack us Whites all the time. The Non-Whites are the attackers, we Whites are the victims. We Whites are innocent and the Non-Whites are guilty. We Whites want paybacks and revenge against our non-White oppressors. BLM and anti-racism is a hate movement against Whites. Non-Whites are anti-White racists.

Black IP/modern anti-racism/BLM, etc.: Whites deserve to be hated because social science proves that they’re evil. Whites hate us Blacks! Our Black hatred is good and their White hatred is bad! Whites attack us Blacks all the time. Whites are the attackers, we Blacks are the victims. We Black are innocent and the Whites are guilty. We Black want paybacks and revenge against our White oppressors. White nationalism is a hate movement against Blacks. Whites are anti-Black racists. Whites want to kill all of us Blacks.

Radical feminism/modern feminism in general/political lesbianism (radfems in particular): Men/MRA’s deserve to be hated because social science proves that they’re evil. Men/MRA’s hate us women! Our female hatred is good and their male/MRA hated is bad. Men’s/MRA’s hatred is bad! Men/MRA’s attack us women all the time. Men/MRA’s are the attackers, we women are the victims. We women are innocent and the men/MRA’s are guilty. We women want paybacks and revenge against our male/MRA oppressors. MRA is a hate movement against women. Men are misogynists.

MRA’s/incels/MGTOW’s: Women deserve to be hated because physical and social science proves that they’re evil/inferior. Feminists hate us! Our male hatred is good and their feminist hatred is bad! Feminists attack us men all the time. Feminists are the attackers, we men are the victims. We men are innocent and the feminists are guilty. We men want paybacks and revenge against our feminist/female oppressors. Feminism is a hate movement against men. Feminists are misandrists.

Gay activists: Homophobes deserve to be hated because social science proves that they’re evil. Homophobes hate us gays! Our gay hatred is good and their homophobic hatred is bad! Homophobes attack us gays all the time. Homophobes are the attackers, we gays are the victims. We gays are innocent and the homophobes are guilty. We gays want paybacks and revenge against our homophobic oppressors. Anti-gays are homophobes. Homophobes want to kill all of us gays.

Homophobes/pro-family/anti-gays: Gays deserve to be hated because social science proves that they’re evil, decadent, and depraved. Gays hate us anti-gays! Our anti-gay hatred is good and their gay hatred is bad! Gays attack us anti-gays all the time. Gays are the attackers, we anti-gays are the victims. We anti-gays are innocent and the Gay are guilty. We anti-gays want paybacks and revenge against our gay oppressors. Gay activism is a hate movement against the family. Gays hate the heterosexual family.

Transsexual activists: Transphobes deserve to be hated because social science proves that they’re evil. Transphobes hate us Transsexuals! Our transsexual hatred is good and their transphobic hatred is bad! Transphobes attack us transsexuals all the time. Transphobes are the attackers, we transsexuals are the victims. We transsexuals are innocent and the transphobes are guilty. We transsexuals want paybacks and revenge against our Transphobic oppressors. Anti-trans people are transphobes.

Transphobes/TERF’s: Transsexuals deserve to be hated because social science proves that they’re evil. Transsexuals hate us TERF’s/Transphobes! Our TERF/transphobic hatred is good and their transsexual hatred is bad! Transsexuals attack us TERF’s/transphobes all the time. Transsexuals are the attackers, we TERF’s/transphobes are the victims. We TERF’s/transphobes are innocent and the transsexuals are guilty. We TERF’s/transphobes want paybacks and revenge against our transsexual oppressors. Transsexualism is a hate movement against women. Transsexuals are misogynists.

Muslims: Infidels deserve to be hated because theology proves that they’re evil. Infidels hate us s! Our hatred is good and their hatred is bad! Infidels attack us all the time. Infidels are the attackers, we are the victims. We infidels are innocent and the are guilty. We want paybacks and revenge against our infidel oppressors. Infidels are anti-Muslim. Infidels want to kill all of us Muslims.

Anti-Muslims: Muslims deserve to be hated because theology proves that they’re evil: Infidels deserve to be hated because theology proves that they’re evil. Infidels hate us s! Our hatred is good and their hatred is bad! Infidels attack us all the time. Infidels are the attackers, we are the victims. We infidels are innocent and the are guilty. We want paybacks and revenge against our infidel oppressors. Infidels are anti-Muslim. Infidels want to kill all of us Muslims..

Jews: Anti-Semites/Gentiles deserve to be hated because social science/theology proves that they’re evil/inferior. Anti-Semites/gentiles hate us Jews! Our Jewish hatred is good and their Anti-Semitic/Gentile hatred is bad! Anti-Semites/Gentiles attack us Jews all the time. Anti-Semites/Gentiles are the attackers, we Jews are the victims. We Jews are innocent and the Anti-Semites/gentiles are guilty. We Jews want paybacks and revenge against our anti-Semitic/gentile oppressors. Gentiles are anti-Semites. Anti-Semites/gentiles want to kill all of us Jews.

Anti-Semites: Jews deserve to be hated because social science proves that they’re evil. Jews hate us gentiles! Our gentile hatred is good and their Jewish hatred is bad! Jews attack us Gentiles all the time. Jews are the attackers, we Gentiles are the victims. We Gentiles are innocent and the Jews are guilty. We Gentiles want paybacks and revenge against our Jewish oppressors. Jews are anti-gentile. Jews want to kill all of us gentiles.

___________ nationalism: Our enemies deserve to be hated because social science proves that they’re evil. The racists hate our people! Our nationalist hatred is good and their racist hatred against our people is bad! The racists attack our people all the time. The racists are the attackers, we nationalists are the victims. We nationalists are innocent and the racists are guilty. We nationalists want paybacks and revenge against our racist oppressors. Our enemies are racists against our people!

White nationalism is not IP! Black activism is not IP! Feminism is not IP! MRA is not IP! Transsexualism is not IP! Islam is not IP! Gay activism is not IP! _________ nationalism is not IP! Being Jewish isn’t IP!

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11 responses to “Alt Left: The Alt Left Position on Identity Politics

  1. Jason Y

    All in all, including the white, a bunch of identity politics – as usual!

  2. Zamfir

    These are all silly straw man/cartoon versions of IP. What is your position wrt the real views of people like me, or our counterparts in other camps? That would be more interesting and useful.

    People like me don’t hate non-whites or claim that science proves they are inferior, etc. We simply recognize that different groups have different interests, and we take our own side in conflicts (within the limits of basic morality). We also don’t deny that we are doing IP or complain that others are. I’m pretty sure there are forms of gay IP or black IP or feminist IP or Jewish IP that are similar.

    I don’t think you have any rational objection to such views. So you attack a caricature, or the most stupid extreme forms of IP, instead of addressing the real problems we are trying to solve.

    • Hi Zamfir, you are certainly welcome to stay here with a couple of provisos:

      No supporting Donald Trump. You can support some of his positions though. A few of them.
      No supporting the Republican Party. You can support a few of their positions.

      Positions you can support for Trump and the Republicans would be on immigration, illegal immigrants, asylum seekers, travel bans, offshoring of jobs, trade agreements, tariffs, etc.

      Everything else is basically banned.

      No saying Democrat Party for Democratic Party. Please.

      I ban on violations so be cool. Most people like you just take off right away, but you have stuck around a while, so maybe you are cooler than most of the others. Also you might be more inclined to follow the rules. You are a smart guy and I do agree with some of your positions, to tell the truth.

      • Zamfir

        Okay. It’s your place, so I’ll respect the rules. (If I can remember :)) Those are basically my views anyway so it’s probably fine. I hate Republicans. I just hate Democrats too. (Didn’t realize ‘Democrat Party’ was a put-down…?) It’s a nice place to discuss, and I don’t fit in well at most of the alt-right sites. And of course I’m considered a Nazi sub-human on most left-wing sites. So I appreciate the venue…

        • Maybe you are more like us than you think. There is a White nationalist or pro-White wing of the Alt Left who think a lot like you do centered around Brandon Adamnson’s altleft.com site and Robert Stark’s radio show and a few other places.

          They’re pro-White or even White nationalist, but most are liberal on just about everything else other than race, and their racial views are pretty mild for pro-White types. For instance, Adamson is a White nationalist but he does not want to harm any non-Whites in the US. He just wants to go make a White state in Pantagonia or Antarctica or the moon or whatever.

          I think they are mild on the race stuff because they are basically liberals. Even when liberals go racist, they don’t get very racist because the liberalism gets in the way. And this may be what is going on here with you Zamfir because 99% of pro-White types are much nastier and more hateful than you. You’re more like Adamson I think.

          And perhaps you are more liberal than you think you are. I realize that liberals are nuts on the SJW thing, but there’s a lot more to us than that, and do you really want to be a social conservative like Jerry Falwell?

          You might want to look into aligning with that movement. It’s called the Left of the Alt Right or the Left wing of the Alt Right. Most of the Alt Left wings have rejected them as racists, but they were one of the original wings and they are not going away. They’re not that nasty anyway IMHO.

        • Jason Y

          I was looking over AltLeft.com and probably don’t totally agree with him. Haven’t had time to check it all out. But basically, I don’t like criminal gangster culture, but I have no interest in being apart from other races – except for the fact I think the US as a whole should remain mostly white, simply to keep racists from gaining power.

        • Jason Y

          A rising non-white problem in the US causes whites to become monsters, so why not prevent it by not making the US mostly non-white.

        • A rising non-white problem in the US causes whites to become monsters,

          Excellent analysis, Jason!

          so why not prevent it by not making the US mostly non-white.

          You mean making the US White, right? My argument is that that won’t solve the problem. You think these racist fucks are going to calm down when they get a racist government to keep their country White? It doesn’t work that way.

          Administrations that come in pledging to keep the country pure are typically quite ugly. That was the Nazi project, and there have been many more examples. Fascists don’t go away when you give them lots of power. They usually just start acting worse.

    • Sisera

      Agreed.

      This site didn’t use to be like this, bro.

  3. Zamfir

    Why is your own position not a form of “identity politics”? You want to draw support from a subset of the population with a shared “identity” and organize them for political reasons. Your preferred group is an economic class not a race or religion. So what? People have many kinds of identities and collective interests. I see no principled distinction.

    And, strangely, you seem to express a lot of hate and contempt towards those outside the group you identify with. So what is your basis for objecting to whites who hate non-whites or Muslims who hate non-Muslims? You even say you’d take away the rights of others to benefit your group. These people are just your counterparts in other identity groups.

    Why isn’t the Alt Left another IP thing? And why is IP supposed to be bad? Seems like this is just the nature of democratic politics in a pluralist society: people vote to secure the interests of groups they belong to and care about. I see no problem with this. And I can’t imagine how it could be otherwise.

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