HBD: Taking Apart the Anti-IQ Arguments Once Again

iRath: I know a lot of high IQ people that are stupid. It doesn’t mean you are all that creative or inventive. It means you have great memory recall. Kind of like an encyclopedia. In my experience, dealing with people who brag about high IQ points, they are usually narcissistic idiot savants. They are insufferable to be around because of their abrasive insecurities.

I don’t think the average person spends much time hand-wringing over their IQ score. On a day to day basis, it just not all that important. I do understand why people have an aversion towards elevating IQ scores as some sort of barometer of human value. Usually the people who are fapping on about it believe in their own divinity (narcissists), and that’s a very dangerous path we’ve been down before.

IQ measures more than recall. It’s the best measure we have for pure human intelligence.

If you don’t think IQ is important, then  you don’t think human intelligence is important. If you think human intelligence has no importance or value for human beings, I  suppose I would have to ask you why you are taking such an extreme position.

IQ measures:

  • Recall capacity (short term and long term).
  • Recall speed (short and long term).
  • Abstract thinking ability.
  • Verbal intelligence.
  • Nonverbal intelligence.
  • Pattern recognition.
  • Ability to compare and contract (analogy).
  • Actual capacity and breadth of human knowledge.
  • Pure, raw brain speed.
  • Brain efficiency.
  • Brain size (this is a statistical correlation).

Apparently the commenter does not think any of the above things are important. I suppose I would ask him why he takes such a radical position.

The commenter has known many high IQ people who were stupid?! Never met a single high IQ idiot in my entire life. Where have they been hiding? What does the poster mean by high IQ idiots? Explain.

In my experience, dealing with people who brag about high IQ points, they are usually narcissistic idiot savants. They are insufferable to be around because of their abrasive insecurities.

This is probably true, though I have never met an IQtard who goes around bragging about his IQ all the time in real life. There are a few on the Internet. IQ-haters like to go on and on about IQ braggarts, how the world is full of them, and how horrible they are, but where are they? I’ve never met one in my entire life. If they are such a problem, why I have never met one? This sounds like a solution in search of a  problem. Fighting the IQ-braggarts makes about as much sense as attacking a windmill with a spear. You are fighting against a problem that doesn’t even exist.

I do understand why people have an aversion towards elevating IQ scores as some sort of barometer of human value. Usually the people who are fapping on about it believe in their own divinity (narcissists), and that’s a very dangerous path we’ve been down before.

I’ve never met one of these people either, though there are some on the Net. Yes, they are insufferable, but best I can tell is they don’t even exist in the real world. Once again, a solution in search of a problem.

I don’t think the average person spends much time hand-wringing over their IQ score.

Of course most people don’t spend time thinking about IQ. I assure you though that everyone with a genius IQ or thereabouts knows their score and most, but not all, will tell it to you readily. In fact, most people with IQ’s over 120 know their scores and will immediately tell them to you, and some in the 110-119 range do too, and they will also quickly tell you, especially if they are 115-119. Where you run into people not knowing or even caring about their score is in the normal and below (90-100) or wide normal (84-116) ranges.

So people with scores above the wide normal range usually know their score and will readily tell you with no embarrassment or sense of shame or social violation. If they are 140+, generally speaking, you detect a sense of pride when they tell you no matter their gender. Under 140, not usually. Over 140 is the top 1% of humans. I would say if you are in the top 1% of any good thing, you ought to feel proud of it. Why not? We all need to feel good about ourselves.

I guess people in the normal range just don’t care, and they probably should not care. We are talking about most people here. I mean the vast majority of humans you meet day to day have IQ’s in the broad normal range. That’s even probably true in this slow city I live in, and this town is a graveyard of intelligence, trust me.

What’s wrong with being like everyone else? What’s wrong with being normal? Or regular? Or everyday? Or a typical person? Is it some sort of a sin?

What’s the point of knowing their score? Most people with average IQ’s are well aware they are not Einsteins anyway, and they do not lose any sleep over it. Almost everyone with an average IQ does not think it is important to be a brain (a logical point of view given their score), and they do not place much if any value on smarts. They tend to place value on other things that they think are more important than brains. Most of the people who really value brains are smart people.

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4 responses to “HBD: Taking Apart the Anti-IQ Arguments Once Again

  1. Jason Y

    There is no argument IQ measures what it’s supposed to, but often, terrible human characteristics like narcissism and self-righteousness are not affected by IQ.

  2. Lin

    I think people should stop discussing IQ all together. IQ debate has 2 major components:

    1) Data consistency

    2) Interpretation.

    It’s quite accepted that IQ data are quite consistent and with obvious trends like Black IQ in US is on the rise
    (due to race mixing or improved social condition?); whether its environmental/cultural or genetic/hereditary is immaterial. Let’s say its ‘environmental/cultural’ – just how fast can ‘environmental/cultural’ parameters change drastically? I would say decades if not centuries. For people at the lower end of IQ ranking to accept IQ hereditarianism is like asking them to accept they’re an ‘inferior race’.

    The only way is to take IQ empirically as it is and say that IQ tests are just another aptitude test which we all could improve upon. Then we’ll be all happy.

  3. Tulio

    I see no point in anyone bragging about their IQ score since it’s inherited and we had no choice how much brainpower we were born with. It’s like bragging about your height or dick size.

  4. Frito Pedejo

    Intelligence isn’t just all about how much you know; as it’s really more of what you know, understanding what you know, & best of all, applying what you know; those things I came to find out the very hard way.

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