“Russia in Ukraine: Enemy or Friend?” by Eric Walberg

My good friend Eric Walberg sets the record straight on the Ukraine War. Bottom line is every single thing you are being told in the Western media is propaganda of some sort. It’s either a distortion, misleading or out and out false. The number of Western media outlets offering the truth of what is going on over there is zero. This is what I mean by our controlled media and why I say that there is no dissident press in the West.

Russia in Ukraine: Enemy or Friend?

Eric Walberg

Putin is either an aggressive schemer, to be opposed and vilified at all costs, or a wise, restrained real-politician, balanced irreconcilable forces next door. Which is it?

The 2014 coup in Ukraine succeeded due to the fierce campaign led by neo-fascists, heirs to the Banderistas of 1940–50’s, now lauded as freedom fighters, but seen at the time as terrorists, murdering Ukrainians and Jews, and sabotaging a Ukraine in shambles after the war. They had almost zero support then, having collaborated with the Nazis to kill tens of thousands, but their hero, Stepan, was honored with a statue in 2011, erected by the godfather of the current anti-Russian coupmakers, the (disastrous) former President Viktor Yushchenko. Ukraine’s Soviet war veterans were outraged and the statue was torn down in 2013, just months before the coup, bringing the Bandera-lovers back to power.

The eastern Ukrainians, mostly native Russians, centered in Donetsk and Lugansk, saw the coup as a surreal rerun of WWII, this time with Banderistas triumphant. They had no real plan, but panicked at the thought of what was to come, and seized government buildings and declared themselves mini-republics, calling on Russia to come and rescue them, as was happening in Crimea.

A tall order. Putin empathized with his fellow Russians, now being bombed and boycotted by the Ukrainian forces, with a death toll of 10,000 so far. Between 22 and 25 August 2014, Russian artillery, personnel, and what Russia called a “humanitarian convoy”, crossed the border into Ukrainian territory without the permission of the Ukrainian government.

This state of stalemate led the war to be labelled by some a war of aggression against poor Ukraine, a “frozen conflict”. The area has stayed a war zone, with dozens of soldiers and civilians killed each month. Close to 4,000 rebel fighters and the same number of ‘loyalists’ have been killed, along with 3,000 civilians. 1.5 million have been internally displaced; and a million have fled abroad, mostly to Russia.

A deal to establish a ceasefire, called the Minsk Protocol, was signed on 5 September 2014 but immediately collapsed. It called for reincorporation of the rebel territories under a federal system, with full rights of the Russian-speakers and open relations with the Russian Federation. Russia stands by the principles of the protocol, calling for Ukrainian borders to stay as they are, despite the pleas of the rebels. This restraint pleases neither side. The Russians clearly will not abandon their fellow Russians, but at the same time, refuse to invade and start a war with their unpredictable, basket-case of a neighbor. Russians are surely thinking: Ukrainians — you can’t get along with them or without them.

The Russian position is clear and firm: give Russian Ukrainian their rights, make our borders porous for locals and their relatives, revive shattered economic links among common peoples with a thousand years of common history. Get on with it.

The Ukrainian position is mostly hysterical, calling for NATO and Europe to fight off the Russkies, salvage the bankrupt economy, and ignore the creepy fascists. WWIII if necessary. The coupmakers are unrepentant as Ukraine slides deeper into insolvency, and corruption is getting worse (if that’s possible). Poroshenko is as unpopular as a leader can get, and only the threat of a Ukraine shattered in pieces gives him a life preserver among his citizens.

WWII replay

The West incited the coup and quickly embraced it, ignoring its unsavory origins in nostalgia for fascism. While it feigns shock and anger at Russian actions, it certainly can’t ignore that the Russians really had no choice, that their actions were/are both necessary and measured.

It looks suspiciously like the West is sitting back and enjoying the fisticuffs, reminding one of how the West sat back and let the Russians do the dirty work in WWII, defeating the Nazis, with the ‘Allies’ joining in the last year to warrant their claims (now the official story) that the US won the war — with a little help from its friends and even the nefarious Russians.

A messy conclusion to that war, the ultimate ‘frozen conflict’, the Cold War, that spawned the current many mini-frozen conflicts (Trans-Dniester, Abkhazia, Ossetia, Kosovo, not to mention ones farther afield, like Taiwan and Somaliland — all legacies of the Cold War).

‘No Pasaran!’

The plan is evolving, depending on what the Russians do. Putin’s red line is that Ukraine cannot – will not — join NATO. The NATO creep eastward, a violation from 1991 on of the implicit understanding with Gorbachev and Yeltsin, will not be tolerated.

The Ukrainian coup created a new scenario. If Russia had moved to support the rebel territories, form a customs union with open borders, aimed at eventual incorporation in the Russian Federation, that would have given the NATOphiles their trump card, and NATO and the EU would be hard pressed not to move in and try to salvage a bankrupt dysfunctional state, with the final coup as its prize: NATO now lined up surrounding Russia, the last real holdout against US world domination.

The Baltic ministates and (almost all) the Balkan ministates are now in the NATO fold. There are a few loose ends for the EU in the Balkans, but EU hegemony economically and US hegemony militarily are the new playing fields. Then there’s Turkey as a key NATO ally.

Whether this is an actual conspiracy or not only Russian hackers can tell, but the logic is there. Putin sees this logic and is not biting the bullet. Better a tolerable federated Ukraine where Russians are left in peace or another frozen conflict than NATO breathing fire on Russia’s borders.

The West played the ‘shock and anger’ card over Crimea, ignoring the fact that Crimea has been a key part of Russia since Catherine the Great incorporated it in 1783, the heart of Russian naval power, thoughtlessly given to Ukraine when Soviet internal borders were meaningless, populated by mostly Russians and Tatars.

As Ukrainian nationalism heated up after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia still maintained its bases there, paying rent to Ukraine. But dreams by Ukrainian Russophobes to join NATO and the desire of NATO forces to occupy Crimea or that somehow Russia and NATO could share Crimean bases are nonsensical. Russia’s only option was to accede to Crimeans’ pleas.

‘Remember 1856!’

As if to taunt the Russians on Crimea, a British missile destroyer and a Turkish frigate docked at the port of Odessa in July for a joint NATO maritime exercise , several days after the US, Ukraine and 14 other nations deployed warships, combat aircraft and special operations teams for the ‘Sea Breeze 2017’ exercise off the Ukrainian coast.

It looks like a reenactment of western policy following the Crimean War in 1856, when Russia was denied its naval presence in the Black Sea, as Britain and France were preparing to take the Ottoman territories for themselves and keep Russia out in the cold. Combined with the NATO creep in the Baltics and Balkans, it also looks like a replay of the build up to WWII but without the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. To Stalin’s (sorry, Putin’s) discomfort, there is no split among the imperialists anymore. Germany et al are postmodern nations, nations without a foreign policy, beholden to the world hegemon, the US. There is only one thousand-year Reich (sorry, Pax Americana) on the table these days. History may repeat itself but in its own ways.

Frozen conflicts have a bad reputation, but peace is always better than war. Tempers cool over time, and past wrongs can be ironed out with reason and compromise. Donetsk and Lugansk will not hoist a white flag to Kiev given the bad blood. They will continue to get electricity and gas from Russia and revive their economies by reviving trade and industry with their real ally. Kiev should be careful in its game of trying to starve the rebels into submission. Russians as a people have never backed down when faced with a hostile enemy.

The longer the freeze continues, the more willy-nilly integration with the Russian economic sphere will proceed. Or rather the Eurasian Customs Union (EACU) that Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan formed in 2010, eliminating obstacles to trade and investment that went up after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Moscow stands to benefit as a natural hub for regional finance and trade, and Ukraine is welcome. Win-win. A free trade pact as an economic strategy elevates the prospects of the entire region where Russia is a natural center of gravity. In 2015 the EACU was enlarged to include Armenia and Kyrgyzstan. Russia imports labor from the ‘Stans’ and could well help Ukraine by inviting Ukrainians to work as well.

Sensible realpolitik by the West would take NATO away from Russian borders and push Ukraine to make an acceptable deal on a federal state structure to keep its own Russians and its neighbor happy. Sensible realpolitik by Ukraine would be to join the EACU, bringing ‘Little Russians’, ‘White Russians,’ and plain old Russians back together. This would be welcomed with relief by EU officials who have no military ax to grind and are not happy about the billions it would take to get Ukraine off life support.

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24 responses to ““Russia in Ukraine: Enemy or Friend?” by Eric Walberg

  1. Jason Y

    White supremacists in the US are obviously evil, but in the Ukraine, they’re tied too much with a popular nationalist front. Note, in the US, David Duke and others claim there is a “majority” of Americans supporting so-called white nationalism, but if that were true, then millions of whites would be outraged over the Confederate monument, rebel flag removal etc..

    I mean, think about it.

    • Jason Y

      True outrage would mean a population truly voting in a white supremacist government and also they’d be taking to the streets. Note, people will take to the streets when angry. Look at the Chick-fil-a protest, not a white supremacist thing, but a fundamentalist Christian protest, a few years back.

    • Jess

      Every sane white American fears for our races’future except oil drillers and cucks who don’t know to separate shit and sweet. If you remain bluepilled you’re hopeless, you can seek refuge in a ghetto where your pet muh-dikers would treat you like a “king”.

      • Jason Y

        And how much of the American population shares your view (0.02 percent at best)? That’s a lot of cucks, but I guess your into the Noah’s Ark view of things, correct?

      • Jason Y

        Every sane white American fears for our races’future except oil drillers and cucks who don’t know to separate shit and sweet.

        Show me some stats.

        . If you remain bluepilled you’re hopeless, you can seek refuge in a ghetto where your pet muh-dikers would treat you like a “king”.

        In such a “fantasy” situation, I doubt they’re going to make you the king. More likely you’d get ignored.

        • Jess

          Jason Y, trump being elected itself is a big proof. How could a Yankee businessman without any political experience behind his back could win without a huge proportion.of whites that fear their future. MSM fake media is Jew propaganda so don’t bring up a lousy source and justify your stupidity, whigger.

        • Jason Y

          No, mam. People electing Trump is not proof people have turned to racism – at least not of the extreme variety.

          Anyway, oddly enough, Trump cheated to get in anyhow (Russian interference, interference in voter laws).

  2. Jason Y

    The 2014 coup in Ukraine succeeded due to the fierce campaign led by neo-fascists, heirs to the Banderistas of 1940–50’s, now lauded as freedom fighters, but seen at the time as terrorists, murdering Ukrainians and Jews, and sabotaging a Ukraine in shambles after the war. They had almost zero support then, having collaborated with the Nazis to kill tens of thousands, but their hero, Stepan, was honored with a statue in 2011, erected by the godfather of the current anti-Russian coupmakers, the (disastrous) former President Viktor Yushchenko. Ukraine’s Soviet war veterans were outraged and the statue was torn down in 2013, just months before the coup, bringing the Bandera-lovers back to power.

    White nationalism is less of a “hate” thing there and more tied in with a sense of being invaded and conquered. You got real people with a legit reason to be racist – while in the US, it’s just a minority of hyper-masculine idiots, among others.

    I mean, who couldn’t also deny the Viet Cong weren’t racist or that Kim’s government in North Korea isn’t? But there is more of a sense of really being conquered and humiliated there.

  3. Jason Y

    Quotes from Jess:

    If you remain bluepilled you’re hopeless, you can seek refuge in a ghetto where your pet muh-dikers would treat you like a “king”.

    Jason Y, Maybe a mere sight of a boot lipped sow gives you a hard-on And wet dreams for several nights.

    More proof it’s not about “separate but equal” but they really HATE and look down on other races.

    Boot lick sow? Mud people?

    But this isn’t surprising – as white supremacists, as noted, are also into stats that are mythological – like David Duke’s assertion that the majority of Americans favor Confederate monuments (and so-called white nationalist beliefs).

    • Jess

      That is defence to protect our race from going we xtinct. When someone invades ur home and steals your belongings would you just walk off with a casual shrug and continue to live with them as if nothing happened. Your colored pets are slaughterinfg whites without any remorse where is your outrage on your pet muh-dikers and Hebes who destroy our country like a cancer within. Maybe you must pull your oilldriller head out of your pet sow’s groidnormous ass.

      • Jess

        What your pet groids and their panderers Hebes have is the actual hate. Not people who are passionate about their history and worry about their existence as a race. Removal of confederate statue is one issue which redpilled a lot of whites from their deep slumber. But oilldrilling race traitors like you are too dumb to even realise you’re been used by your genesis3:15 enemies

        • Jason Y

          Nobody cares about Confederate statutes or they’re would be mass protests.

          What your pet groids and their panderers Hebes have is the actual hate.

          Groid label? More hypocrisy regarding the “separate but equal” claim.

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          blockquote>But oilldrilling race traitors like you are too dumb to even realise you’re been used by your genesis3:15 enemies<./blockquote>

          Nice extremist Bible stuff. But hey, maybe 0.01 percent of the population even takes your view seriously.

          Oh, they’re the enemy? So that justified murdering 6 million of them and even doing medical experiments on them (including kids). And I’m supposed to be ashamed of not being a Nazi?

          What also about the cocaine (prescribed by a doctor) mad Hitler who invaded nations to get more resources and whatnot? All in the same quest to destroy Communism and create a master race.

        • Jess

          Ah the tiring holohoax canard. That has been debunked multiple times. Your Jewish overlords are doing a bad job. They must use whigger tools like you to come up with better arguments. Anything remotely related to white interests is quickly labelled Nazi. Nice try! But unfortunately because of ur masters’ continual evil machinations, most of the country is becoming jewwise just like how they woke upto islam. So come up with something new.

        • Look you two. Another thread derail. The title of the thread is Russia in the Ukraine. That is what you are supposed to be discussing.

      • Jason Y

        Maybe you must pull your oilldriller head out of your pet sow’s groidnormous ass.

        More childish bullying – though I must hand it to you – you have some funny remarks.

        Let me ask you a question, still. Where are the stats? How many people support your “even dumber than Jehovah’s Witnesses” type beliefs? What is the chance the probability will change? It’s not much I tell you.

  4. Lin

    Ukraine on Fire–docu film made by Oliver Stone..
    Interview https://youtu.be/MZNTHpvT1j8

    95 mins video(in russian) https://youtu.be/mqJuafzpSrg
    English version but needs registration http://full.movieden.us/play.php?movie=5724358
    Torrent download http://itorrents.org/torrent/152E99C1197BBEC71C260DE9E541626F6A46F04F.torrent?title=%5Blimetorrents.cc%5DUkraine.On.Fire..2016..Oliver.Stone.WEB.DL.1080p.AVC.AAC.Vitumen

  5. Jason Y

    Not people who are passionate about their history and worry about their existence as a race.

    Believe me, I prefer the globalist situation to being ruled by Hitler.

  6. Jason Y

    Your colored pets are slaughterinfg whites without any remorse where is your outrage on your pet muh-dikers and Hebes who destroy our country like a cancer within.

    White supremacy is definitely the cancer and we saw the result in World War II

    • Jess

      If you hate living among whites so much why don’t you move to chicongo or Detroit or even Atlanta, you’ll feel like living like in paradise with your pet bucks and sows. If you’re filthy rich move to posh Jewish areas in NY or any posh neighbourhoods in multicultural CA or Seattle.

      • Jason Y

        Trying to not derail, but sure I’d rather live in among nonwhites than a bombed and/or nuked white nationalist state (aka Germany).

      • Jason Y

        Why are liberals and Jews living in such neighborhoods while this sociopathic minority of the working class (white supremacists) has it so rough?

  7. Jason Y

    On topic:

    The Ukraine was colonized by Russia for hundreds of years. Of course, they hate Russia and unfortunately, their liberation movement is also antisemitic, because they wrongly associate Judaism with Marxism (the philosophy of those hypocritical colonizers of Stalin’s day)

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