Official Response to Trump’s Remarks on the AltLeft

Very nice response by Rabbit to Trump’s idiotic comments on the Alt Left.

There are two Alt Lefts.

The first Alt Left is a fake Alt Left because it is a slur invented by the enemy (the Republican Right) in an attempt to libel the Left by claiming that people who want single payer health care are the same as Nazis! Lately it has been more used against Antifa types, but even there, it is misplaced. When used in this way, it says that anti-Nazis are just as bad as Nazis! Sound right to you? Nah.

Furthermore, the Alt Left moniker is rejected by the very people who it tagged. The entire SJW Left and especially the Antifa completely reject the term Alt Left as a slur. So Alt Left is a term like libtards, Leftards, pinkos, or moonbats used against the Left by the Right. Or when we on the Left refer to the Right as Rethuglicans, Rethugs, Trumpsters, Cum Trumpsters, or wingnuts. All of these terms are unacceptable because they are slurs made up by one side to describe the other side and these terms are rejected by the people they are said to describe.

So there is no Alt Left in the sense that the Right is using the term. Furthermore the use of the term in this way must be rejected by everyone on the Left.

On the other hand, there is indeed a real Alt Left. Just as Richard Spencer and Paul Gottleib coined the term Alt Right and more or less started the movement, I coined the term Alternative Left or Alt Left and also more or less started that movement. There is a post of mine called A Proposal for an Alternative Left a few years back that is, I believe, the first actual mention of the terms Alternative Left or Alt Left.

The movement sort of sat there and floundered for a while, and after a bit, Rabbit signed on board. Ryan England was also an early Alt Leftist as was Lord Keynes, although he split off into a somewhat different movement called the Realist Left. Another early Alt Leftist was an Israeli named Nicholas Kaldor. All of these people are still very important thinkers who are all Alt Left in some way or other. In recent days, Keynes and Kaldor have become more associated with an Alt Left split called the Realist Left. I would argue that the Realist Left is under the Alt Left umbrella.

Since then, quite a few Alt Left groups have appeared on Facebook, and as soon as the movement gained some traction, it quickly split into ~12 different factions at the very least, following the pattern of every leftwing group since Marx. I officially renounced some of them, to not much a avail. There are now still at least 12 factions, and there may be even more than that.

There are all sorts of Alt Left Facebook groups, but I have nothing to do with most of them. Rabbit and I have both almost completely lost control of the movement we helped found, which is quite all right. After, you cannot copyright or patent a movement. Movements often take off in radically different directions than those of their founders. The Alt Left, if it even becomes an actual thing, will develop into and take the positions of whatever those people want it to take. The members of the Alt Left will be the authors of their own movement, but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with it.

I recently visited the largest Alt Left group on Facebook and was appalled at what I saw. I made a post denouncing most all of them and said I was renouncing them and what they stood for. This caused a minor crisis, and I split off to form my own group called The Original Alternative Left. It’s still quite small, and it’s also more or less  inactive.

The large group had transitioned into something I no longer recognized. Most of the people in there were Trump supporters and most supported neoliberalism in economics. Right there, I would say they are not part of my movement. You can’t be Alt Left and support Trump except maybe on an accelerationist basis. You can’t support neoliberalism at all. Major dealbreaker, and you need to go away. If that’s how you feel about economics, the DNC is that-a-way. I am sure they can fix you up with a nice cushy job as a pro-corporate liberal .

Pro-corporate liberals have been running the party for some time, and they still do under the DNC leadership of Tom Perez. Although the party is now well split into Sanders and Hillary wings, the Hillary wings are still holding the ball and trying to run out the clock. The Sanders wing is very much playing defense as underdogs.

Rabbit has been a very controversial member of the Alt Left as his split is called “The Left Wing of the Alt Right.” However, that’s pretty much what the original Alt Left was. Like the Alt Light, we were originally aligned with the Alt Right (or at least used to read their websites), but we split with them due too many differences between them and us. Rabbit has some pretty racist feelings at times, and he has written some pretty racist stuff. Most of his recent postings have been racism-free though, and I honestly think he would rather talk about other things ,such as movies for instance. And Rabbit is one excellent movie critic. In my opinion, as much as the rest of the movement rejects him, I still think that Rabbit is one of the most important thinkers in our movement, and furthermore, he’s a fantastic writer to boot!

Further, Rabbit’s racism is attenuated by his liberalism, and Rabbit is absolutely a liberal on most everything but race, which describes quite a few Alt Lefties. Questioned about his racial views, Rabbit said that he did not with to harm non-Whites in the US in any, way, shape or form. Although he is a White Separatist at heart, he doesn’t want to displace or ethnically cleanse anyone. He has stated that he wants to go to some part of the globe where almost nobody lives and set up a white state there. Like Patagonia, Antarctica or even the moon. You might say he’s thinking long-term.

So as you can see, his liberalism attenuates his racism quite a bit. As long as you are a real liberal, your racism is never going to get too extreme and is likely to stay “the White guy next door” variety of soft racism that is almost ubiquitous (and I would say harmless) in US society. Liberalism is like an antivenom for racism. I have racist feelings myself at times of course (How can any White person not?), but I find that as soon as I get going that way, my liberalism starts acting like white blood cells attacking an enemy or antigen, and I can never go far down that road. Further, racist feelings feel like an ill-fitting suit that one is always half-trying to throw off. As real as they might be, they don’t feel very good inside, and I am generally glad when they fade away. It’s not something I want to think about, and it’s not a way I want to feel.

Antiracism is a core belief of liberalism. Liberals who become highly racist (and some do) generally move away from the Left altogether and join the Right. That’s just how it works. Left-wingers who go antisemite (and some do) also tend to leave the Left and migrate over to the Right somewhere where antisemitism has a more friendly home.

Here is an early Alt Left post of mine that has often been called a manifesto of the Alt Left, and that is exactly the way I would describe it. Read it and see what you think of it.

Official Response to Trump’s Remarks on the AltLeft

by Rabbit

As many of you may well know, President Trump conducted a press conference earlier today in which he specifically made disparaging remarks about the AltLeft. Many of these statements were slanderous and well off the mark. No one that I know who is associated with the AltLeft (which by the way has existed for years) would ever support or engage in violence.

As anti-Alpha Male anti-heroes, we don’t care for brodozers and machismo and people who eat chips loudly. We like our testosterone bound to SHBG, not left unchecked where it is free to bind to receptor sites willy nilly or converted into its more potent forms.

I personally don’t even like to attack bugs. In fact, I once had a black widow spider web in my shower and continued to shower next to it for a year, leaving the web completely undisturbed.

Occasionally I would glance over at the spider, its red hour glass glistening through the steamy water droplets, and I would say “Hey bud. how’s it going?”

I have no empirical proof, but to this day I like to think we had an understanding.

The idea that we would attend rallies and assault people could not be further from the truth. I could not harm a fly. Speaking of insects, I was as shocked as anyone when in the 1958 version of the film “The Fly,” Vincent Price and the detective just stood there idly watching as Al Hedison was devoured by the spider. They made absolutely no effort to save him, despite his desperate cries for help. Militants? Violence? Yeah right. To paraphrase Mike Myers in Wayne’s World “I don’t even own a gun, let alone many guns, which would necessitate a gun rack.”

Trump’s comments are a slap in the face to anyone who believes that the less aggro elements of Antifa and the AltRight should combine forces to get Single Payer health care passed and a plan for student debt relief. They could focus their dual energies on dismantling the College Football Industrial Complex. Time to get rid of the obsession with national championships, ditch the needless playoffs and restore conference rivalries. Go back to naming bowl games strictly after fruits, plants and other commodities rather than mega-corporations.

If the AltRight and Antifa groups are to have skirmishes, they should take the form of squirt gun battles, their classic Super Soaker 50’s and translucent squirt guns filled not with bleach but with Hi-C, Tang and Capri Sun. Yeah that’s right, the red pill is for squares.

The AltLeft is all about the Orange Pill. That’s where instead of spending a bunch of your hard earned mooncoin to attend a rally in Podunk USA and get maced by strange-looking subhumans, you simply head on down to the food court at your local dying mall and order up an Orange Julius, quietly(!) slurping it while daydreaming about the cosmos and reminiscing about the Radio Shack you used to buy remote control cars from in the late 80’s, which has now been replaced by some kind of ethnic eyebrow-waxing place (thanks to both globalization and greed-induced corporate imperial overextension.)

Go ahead, call us chic nihilists, fedora nationalists, new suburbanists, retro futurists or snorters of Pixy Stix. We don’t care. Deep down, orange you glad we didn’t take the Black Pill or the Turquoise Pill or the Periwinkle Pill? You know you are.

By the way, as I’ve mentioned many times I’ve always disliked the pill analogy. The Matrix is a terrible movie. The camerawork practically gave me motion sickness, and the whole cheesy “he’s the one” thing made this cynical GenX’er roll his eyes while mentally barfing at the screen of this melodramatic spectacle. It was a total corn muffin, not a sci-fi movie that I cared for, that’s for sure. I hated the digital effects and didn’t even enjoy the overall ambianic aesthetic as much as that of Damnation Alley, which is really saying something.

Trump’s statements are also a violent assault on every intelligent, well-meaning, teal-haired White feminist beauty who works her ass off in retail and reluctantly complains about how Indian customers are disproportionately cheap and constantly demanding discounts and other free shit. Furthermore, Trump’s words betray every Xenu-fearing person who has been stuck in line at Starbucks behind someone who couldn’t just simply place a fucking order without asking questions about every item on the menu…the calories, the ingredients, the special requests, the whole shebang.

When Trump condemns the AltLeft, it’s an insult to every person who recognizes that Vegas Vacation is the superior film in the National Lampoon’s Vacation franchise, even though Ethan Embry became kind of an SJW. What is it with former child/teen stars becoming SJW’s anyway? I don’t care about Will Wheaton, as I never got into Star Trek. Tristine Skyler (whom I had a brief childhood crush on after seeing her in the film Kidco and who outshined Christian Slater in one of the best ABC Weekend Specials, The Haunted Mansion Mystery) was a little bit more disappointing. She went to Princeton though, so good for her.

I really don’t understand how any 70’s or 80’s kid could get more than superficially into social justice. Our childhoods were filled with grossly offensive things, (remember Cabbage Patch Preemies? like ewww wtf I love social justice now), and those same childhoods were radically unmatched in their total awesomeness. Anyhow, suffice to say that Trump’s presser was a personal affront to anybody who found Back to the Future III to be a lackluster finale to the trilogy. I’m not sure how many people that works out to be, but it’s more than a few. You know it’s true. What Trump said is mind-boggling for anyone who was inspired by Warren Beatty’s charismatic “Guy Named Porpoise” speech in the 1978 film Heaven Can Wait only to wonder why 40 years later nobody prioritizes these issues.

Trump’s criticism of the behavior of the AltLeft feels like knuckles to the creep to every laid-back Beatnik Fascist that doesn’t care much for blabbing the drab gab but rather chatters hep patter on twatter, if you catch my drift. Not everyone wants to take the long trip to Roman Salutesville, but if we decide to rig ourselves a little shindig vessel, what’s the harm in a few kicks? After all, we’re peace-loving moonboots, and you’re the tabby cat with the codes to the missiles.

Every Left Transhumanist who seeks bionic upgrades, mind uploading, immortality and the resurrection of wooly mammoths should be disturbed by Trump’s pontificatory declarations about the fabric of our being. Like Box in Logan’s Run , we are “more than machine, more than man, more than a fusion of the two. Don’t you agree? Wait for the winds. Then our birds sing. And the deep grottoes whisper our names.” Trump may have “one of the highest IQ’s,” but he’ll be no match for us after we transcend our earthly bags of bones and fuse our collective consciousnesses to refurbished Tandy 1000’s.

People always claim that Trump is playing 4D chess. His moves are so unpredictable and counter-intuitive, and yet you just know the only possible explanation is that it must be because he is 12 moves ahead of you. I know this because I myself have beaten a computer at chess several times on the “very easy” setting. We here on the AltLeft have our own preferred game though. It’s called Hungry Hungry Hippos, and we’re playing for our fair share of all the marbles.

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26 responses to “Official Response to Trump’s Remarks on the AltLeft

  1. Jason Y

    Good video – best message on the protest so far (Schwarzenegger)

    • Far-Rightwing Hacker Known As 4chan

      I think if you look at Richard Spencer’s platforms, they align closely with the left (universal healthcare, socialism, etc), but of course there is the “peaceful” ethnic cleansing aspect.

      • Jason Y

        Richard Spencer should be thrown in prison for life and the supporters, even as mild as for Robert, should get out of town – and soon Boston type protesters will make sure of it. So get your luggage.

        Note, like Spencer, I’m against so-called immigration, but really so are so-called Communists. See, in an ideal world, there would be as much immigration cause the economic forces aren’t there pushing it. But that’s not saying Latinos cannot live here or that they should be shunned from living here. But there won’t be huge armies of them.

        • Jason Y

          See, in an ideal world, there wouldn’t be as much immigration cause the economic forces aren’t there pushing it.

        • Far-Rightwing Hacker Known As 4chan

          So…..horseshoe theory is correct?

        • Jason Y

          Yeah, that’s a no-brainer. But white supremacists are spreading the lie that Latin America’s immigration is caused by over-population

        • Jason Y

          Another dumb idea believed by such types is that blacks are violent. Well, that’s sort of right, but again, things like The War on Drugs and other stuff have to be taken into account. In other words, it’s more complex than it seems.

        • Where do you get this idea that I support Richard Spencer? I do not support him at all.

        • Blacks ARE violent. Period.

          On average anyway. On average, as a group, Blacks are far more violent and criminal than Whites are. Personally I think they are born that way and we need to do something about in some way or other.

          “Blacks are violent” is not a dumb idea. It’s the truth. That’s why most sane Whites do not want to live in heavily Black areas. Too violent, too much crime, too dangerous.

        • Jason Y

          Of course, heavily poor black areas are violent, but also heavily poorwhite areas are full of conniving types, types that may not be violent, but they will steal and do everything else.

        • Jason Y

          It would be dumb to segregate based on race cause all blacks are not poor – hence, they’re all not likely to be violent, except maybe to their wives, husbands etc..

          Ultimately, the combo of perhaps genetics and poverty lead to a bad mess. But again, poor whites (or hispanics, etc..)are equally despicable as the poverty combined with their conniving nature causes them to be people that cannot be lived with.

        • Jason Y

          Ironically, I’m more scared of London with the acid splashing attacks than I am some US black or African neighborhood.

        • Jonathan

          Theres no point in denying black crime epidemic being on the left. One must not call himself a leftist if he denies black crime and underplays it like the fake news media does. That is SJW. In the modern day America there is no real left or right. Democrats are sjw retards and republicans are money obsessed cunts operating under the guise of conservatism. Alt right and alt left seems to be heading in the right direction.

        • Jason Y

          The alt-right has to be shoved into an unflushed toilet 😆

          It’s the only thing they understand.

        • Jason Y

          Possibly SJWs are denying the black crime, but they’re also taking into consideration the poverty, something white supremacists don’t. It’ s a combo of the poverty and the genetics which is the problem.

          However, though, the main problem is white supremacists. They’re the main threat. I mean, we can always get away from the poor (whatever race they are), but a government ran by the alt-right or simply having them anywhere in the US – simply cannot be tolerated.

    • SHI

      I always disliked Schwarzenegger, he sounds like a sanctimonious elitist. I don’t even like his Terminator movies.”I’ll be back!” and stuff.

      This is the first time I saw a video of him where he sounds heartfelt and genuine.

  2. Jason Y

    Every Left Transhumanist who seeks bionic upgrades, mind uploading, immortality and the resurrection of wooly mammoths

    What’s wrong with immortality? Do you mean the health police? Also, why are saying it’s leftist? Wasn’t it the Nazis into eugenics?

  3. Jason Y

    The racists have been noticeably silent for the last day or so on here and social media.

    Bunch of cowards, lol.

    Just goes to prove they’re generally a bunch of weak men using projection and scapegoating to avoid dealing with themselves. And they have the nerve to call liberal men effeminate.

  4. Far-Rightwing Hacker Known As 4chan

    Why don’t you get into politics Robert? You have enough expertise to run as a minor politician, say state legislature.

  5. Jason Y

    Alt-left cannot represent Robert’s views because the name has been stolen and now it’s known for other stuff. It’s just the way it is.

    • Nope! We will continue to call ourselves Alt Left. The other use of it is i illegitimate. It’s as illegitimate as Leftard, libtard, moonbat, Rethug, Trumpster, Cum Trumpster, teabagger, wingnut, etc. It is an insult made up by the other side that is not accepted by the people it is talking about. The people being referred to as Alt Left completely reject that word to describe them, hence it is illegitimate.

  6. Jason Y

    So as you can see, his liberalism attenuates his racism quite a bit. As long as you are a real liberal, your racism is never going to get too extreme and is likely to stay “the White guy next door” variety of soft racism that is almost ubiquitous (and I would say harmless) in US society. Liberalism is like an antivenom for racism. I have racist feelings myself at times of course (How can any White person not?), but I find that as soon as I get going that way, my liberalism starts acting like white blood cells attacking an enemy or antigen, and I can never go far down that road. Further, racist feelings feel like an ill-fitting suit that one is always half-trying to throw off. As real as they might be, they don’t feel very good inside, and I am generally glad when they fade away. It’s not something I want to think about, and it’s not a way I want to feel.

    Antiracism is a core belief of liberalism. Liberals who become highly racist (and some do) generally move away from the Left altogether and join the Right. That’s just how it works. Left-wingers who go antisemite (and some do) also tend to leave the Left and migrate over to the Right somewhere where antisemitism has a more friendly home.

    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/as-us-gays-became-more-open-clothing-grooming-and-behavioral-spaces-for-straight-men-shrunk/

    Quote by Jason Y

    The racist right is always saying their opponents are cucks (wusses, fags), but they might be correct

    In fact, I think a problem with the left is it’s too soft Instead, the left needs to be aggressive like in the August Boston Protests. In other words, tell the racists to get lost. The problem with Charlottesville was that too few lefties were there; they were too “nice” etc.. So one of them got ran over as the result.

    I think being racist isn’t an advantage for the left, but its real problem is that it’s not confronting capitalism and right-wing racists harshly enough. I mean, yeah, there are some bad poor black people etc.. But the root is poverty combined with the genetic stuff, so we have to get rid of the poverty.

    So as with the Boston Protests, we have to tell the racist right to leave, much as a bar owner throws out someone rude, a schoolteacher makes the class clown shut up, or the blog throws out a troll.

  7. Jason Y

    OK, though, I haven’t lost my sense of humor, though.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/22/espn-pulls-announcer-robert-lee-university-virgini/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push

    He’s Robert Lee. He was banned from ESPN, but he’s probably Korean or something. LOL ha ha 😆

  8. SHI

    The failing New York Times isn’t offering much of a hope to Trump.

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    blockquote>This, in essence, is where we are now: a nation led by a prince of discord who seems divorced from decency and common sense. The alarm bells were loud and swift. Five members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff delivered a rare rebuke, condemning race-based extremism in the military and the nation. Foreign leaders, from Secretary General António Guterres of the United Nations to Prime Minister Theresa May of Britain, condemned intolerance and a failure of leadership in the White House.

    Of all the many complaints and condemnations, the strongest came from Mr. Trump’s putative allies in the business community, a glittering who’s who of financial and corporate leaders who began resigning from two White House advisory councils early last week, ultimately forcing the president to dissolve both panels in order to spare himself the humiliation of further corporate desertions

    I feel sad for the Man, to be honest. He’s having a hard time. But, he dug his own grave, aided by a big mouth.

  9. SHI

    Maybe Lindsay can run on an Alt-Left platform against Trump if this circus ever makes it to 2020.

    We can drive a crowd-sourcing petition, and create a website which is like the mirror opposite of Breitbart.

    It will be an equal fight. Should definitely be an even contest between the Alt-Right and Alt-Left. Let’s see

    1- Core online supporters – 4-chan vs. Reddit
    2- Memes – Pepe the Frog vs. Anonymous
    3- Rallies – Unite the Right vs. Music and Jam band enthusiasts
    4 – Weapons – Swastikas/Torches vs. Swinging clubs (Trump said that)
    5 – Power source – Money and muscle vs. Pure anarchy
    6 – Foreign intervention – Russia vs. Well, we’ll find a country that props up the Alt-Left

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