Anatomy of a Conservative Lie: China is a Capitalist Country

Conservatives and reactionaries keep saying that China has adopted capitalism. What a stupid joke that is. All conservatives lie, no exceptions. There is no such thing as an honest conservative. I have never met one in my life. Conservative ideology is based for the most part on lies, though some Libertarians are quite honest.

For the most part, conservatives lie like they breathe. Conservatives literally need to lie to live.

Let me tell you something.

China is one of the most Communist or socialist states on Earth today. Fully 45% of the Chinese economy is publicly owned, and it does extremely well. Much of the very high economic growth has come from the public sector.

How on Earth can conservatives say that China is capitalist when 45% of the economy is state-owned? How ludicrous. But realize that all public firms in China operate on the profit model. They all compete with each other, so you have a steel mill run by one city competing with a steel mill run by another city. Many of the fastest growing industries are run at the municipality level.

China’s fully state-owned firms also do very well. In fact, they do so well that Republicans say that China’s public firms are “not fair” because American capitalist corporations can’t compete against them! The reason is that China’s firms get subsidies from the state. Poor capitalist corporations! They’re too inefficient to compete against Communist state owned firms. Poor babies!

Do conservatives realize that the state owns every single inch of land in China? How on Earth is that possible in a capitalist country? Capitalism is primarily based on the private ownership of land. No private ownership of land, no capitalism. Real simple.

I would also like to point out that the Chinese state spends an absolutely incredible amount of money on its people. Since 45% of the whole economy goes directly to the state, they have a lot of money to spend. And they spend it very wisely too. As I understand it, US capitalists believe in a minimal state, and there is nothing they hate more than state spending. Huge state spending is seen as wasteful tax and spend policies by all capitalists on Earth. Wherever you have massive state spending, you do not have a capitalist system. But I would like to thank conservative and reactionaries for praising China, the finest example of modern Communism!

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34 responses to “Anatomy of a Conservative Lie: China is a Capitalist Country

  1. Mayur Varshne

    Well said.

    The Chinese do not have the faintest idea of what Liberty really is.

    Besides, the meteoric rise of China as an economic giant is largely based on the phenomena of over flooding the foreign markets with goods of pretty mediocre quality at literally throwaway prices.

    Of course, the State has played an extremely active role in giving everything and everybody a big push. But, the Chinese have mostly been a very homogeneous race.

    China, still, has miles to go before it can really consider itself truly developed and diversified, like the West.

    • “Besides, the meteoric rise of China as an economic giant is largely based on the phenomena of over flooding the foreign markets with goods of pretty mediocre quality at literally throwaway prices.”

      Of course China needs to do what it needs to do to leap frog it economy development and growth including manufacturing “mediocre quality” throwaway junkets, and copying technology. While keyboard warriors can sit away typing away about how China is this and India is that , I suggest everyone of you take a visit and see it for yourself.

      2010s China is a whole bunch of bananas. We are already seeing innovative products out in the market. Give and take, in about a decade you will see more given that China’s R&D spending is now surpassing the US.

      • Mayur Varshne

        Frankly speaking, China does not really fascinate me at all. Like India, it is almost the same thing again and again. All they have is manufacturing. Besides, their goods are pretty average; even the Japanese goods are of a much better quality.
        In fact, it’s supreme arrogance repels me terribly as a North Indian.

      • Mayur Varshne

        I am, in particular, fascinated by the folks with wholesomely Gentile names who act a lot different from the typical Gentiles.

        They quite seem to have a distinct and very effective habit of always hitting below the belt.

        A keyboard warrior I, most definitely, am not. In fact, I am as straight as an arrow, most of the times.

      • Lin

        http://www.researchinchina.com/Htmls/Report/2014/7964.html

        China has been the world’s biggest piano maker and consumer nation for a while. Two phenomena I want to point out:

        1) Playing musical instruments, particularly piano, is excellent motor skill exercise for children, and positive correlation between math skills and playing instruments has been established.

        2) The average Chinese doesn’t consider listening to ‘Western classical music’ to be ‘Westernization’ as such. As much a Chinese patriot as I am, I usually listen only to Western classical music. It’s through listening to music of Tchaikovsky and Stravinsky that I came to admire the cultural achievement of Russia. Odette is immortal.

        Chinese made-violins are also getting quite good (actually old news). Unless one wants to buy a very expensive Italian antique, Chinese hand crafted violins are very good buys even to concert violinists.

        http://www.violinist.com/blog/superiorviolins/20153/16675/

        • Jason Y

          I don’t think Pink Floyd or Zepplin does well in China. When in Asia, it just seems out of place. However, certain types of American rock sound good in Southeast Asia, though. It’s all about “being out-of-place”.

        • Mayur Varshne

          Chinese use every trick in the book to capture the foreign markets, and, to migrate to the far more affluent West. That’s a fact!

          To make it worse, the Chinese seem to have discovered supreme arrogance.

          Japan has been in the manufacturing business much longer and has the experience and know how to make quality products. Only highly educated people are selected for jobs and they take pride in their workmanship. Products are also researched, tested and retested before they can pass very rigourous high standards. Japanese also tend to keep things simple rather than make extremely high tech things which may have glitches for years to come.

          Every Japanese part has a serial number on it which can be traced back to the very team that designed and made the part. If their part should become defective, they would be in a lot of hot water.

          China is still growing and to some degree, some Chinese products are becoming a lot better, but most are far behind.

          Japanese are more skilled and honourable and far more dignified. However, China has gigantic size and population at it’s disposal.

        • Mayur Varshne

          Chinese use every trick in the book to capture the foreign markets, and, to migrate to the far more affluent West. That’s a fact!

          To make it worse, the Chinese seem to have discovered supreme arrogance.

          Japan has been in the manufacturing business much longer and has the experience and know how to make quality products. Only highly educated people are selected for jobs and they take pride in their workmanship. Products are also researched, tested and retested before they can pass very rigourous high standards. Japanese also tend to keep things simple rather than make extremely high tech things which may have glitches for years to come.

          Every Japanese part has a serial number on it which can be traced back to the very team that designed and made the part. If their part should become defective, they would be in a lot of hot water.

          China is still growing and to some degree, some Chinese products are becoming a lot better, but most are far behind.

          Japanese are more skilled and honourable and far more dignified. However, China has gigantic size and population at it’s disposal.

  2. Mayur Varshne

    ……..For the most part, conservatives lie like they breathe. Conservatives literally need to lie to live……..

    The very same applies to the capitalists and the Liberals, in equal measure.

    • No liberals do not lie that much, not deliberately anyway. They swallow all of the lies that the media and government feed them though, but deliberately lie, no.

      The Cultural Left lies like they breathe. They literally need to lie to live due to the nature of their project.

      All capitalist lie like they breathe. I figure if a capitalist’s mouth is open, he’s probably lying. This is one of the main reasons I am a socialist, in fact. Sure, maybe we need capitalists but we also need mosquitoes, disease, taxes and death. I don’t see anyone cheering about those things. Capitalism may well be an evil necessity, but that doesn’t mean it’s not evil.

      • Mayur Varshne

        As a matter of fact, this evil is at the very core of the Western affluence and it should definitely be chastened.

        If this evil is non-Gentile in origin, then it should be eliminated.

      • Jason Y

        The cultural left is too extreme, but that doesn’t mean the mild cultural left is bad, but quite the contrary. However, the opposite, the extreme cultural right is now becoming popular and it differs little than what Hitler was into.

        • Mayur Varshne

          It ain’t that easy to change the basic character and demographics of a society.

          It is, in fact, a Herculean task to change the basic character and demographics of an elite society which is very robust and which is very proud.

      • Jason Y

        The extreme cultural left’s cases of oppression are not all the same, though. That’s where the alt-left gets it wrong. A black complaining about discrimination isn’t the same as some transsexual wanting government money for an operation and a mixed raced person getting picked on isn’t the same as some militant vegan.

      • Jason Y

        Here is an example of someone the cultural left might defend, and many would argue that his case is justified:

        http://www.fox35orlando.com/news/local-news/266496422-story (an autistic/deaf black man being beaten by some local townie)

    • Lin

      While you sure have my sympathy that Hindus’ 1962 butt scar still hurt like hell, I found:

      “To make it worse, the Chinese seem to have discovered supreme arrogance.”

      An amazing claim. I would say the rakshaks of Bharat have discovered hijra slapdildo theater. Just some stuff I picked randomly off the web. Honestly I don’t bother to counter their claims, as with you, why don’t you try to discover how much less ‘diversified’ is Japan than China:

      Just 13 years from now, Bharat will hire legions of white servants. The video was mostly shot in a wealthy gulf state to simulate a super rich Bharat.

      …..

      Not the least, back in 2013, some top Hindu cowputer scientists claim by 2017, Bharat will have the fastest super-super-cowputer at 133 exapoops (one exapoops is 10 to power 18 of cow droppings per sec). The present fastest machines (Yankee or Chinese) only operate at 0.093 exaflops or 93 petaflops. Look, that’s a claim made by serious Hindu scientists of a serious Hindu national research institute, not some internet Hindu wackos.

      http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/India-will-have-super-supercomputer-by-2017/articleshow/19450713.cms

      • Mayur Varshne

        …….While you sure have my sympathy that Hindus’ 1962 butt scar still hurt like hell………

        That’s ancient fucking history, boy. Making noise is one thing but raising hell is another. Besides, Nehru used to live in the ‘Hindi Chini bhai bhai’ La La land; he never really realized that how different the Orientals really are.

        If there ever is another Indo-China war or even another Indo-Pak, due to Chinese mischief, both the countries will be destroyed. The Chinese dragon knows that pretty well.

        The real difference between India and China is that China is highly integrated whereas India is quite fractured. To make it worse, the classes here take everything and everybody for granted.

        India never really had a Mao Zedong.

        Despite everything, India is moving ahead, at a brisk pace.

        India does not strut around as if it has conquered the entire World. India does not deride it’s neighbours, without provocation. India is rarely up to any serious mischief in the alien lands. India mostly behaves in a dignified manner.

        China is not even a shadow of Japan. To remind you, the initial industrialization of China was possible largely due to the Japanese aid. It’s just that Japanese have become a little too Spartan for the human world i.e they seem to have forgotten the infinite joys of sex, family and babies.

        • Lin

          “If there ever is another Indo-China war or even another Indo-Pak, due to Chinese mischief, both the countries will be destroyed…”

          Tell me why China is interested in the destruction of India?

          Brief historical account on Hindu nukes:

          1) China has been under US nuke threats since 1953, so during the late 50’s, china started her nuke program on a war footing and the first Chinese atomic bomb was detonated in 1964.

          2) India followed suit and detonated her 1st nuke in 1974. But it was claimed to be a ‘peaceful’ device for earth-moving purpose only. The Hindus knew darn well they were not the target of Chinese nukes, and the Hindus didn’t weaponize their nukes until…

          3) the BJP took power in the 90’s and weaponized their nukes to show Uday Bharat/India Shining, hahaha…

          4) Pakistan had no choice but to follow suit.
          ….

          The Indians had/have conventional military edge over the Paks but it’s now rendered meaningless with nukes, as any major conflict could easily be escalated into nuke exchange.
          ….

          The Hindus are a ‘pride-deficient’ people and often behave like a flat-chested girl wearing a germ-infested padded bra picked up from the garbage can.

          http://www.firstpost.com/living/talk-of-40-engine-planes-ancient-surgery-overshadows-indian-science-congress-sparks-outrage-2029661.html
          ……………

          “To remind you, the initial industrialization of China was possible largely due to the Japanese aid…”

          You certainly remind me of your ignorance. It’s well know that the first stage of Chinese industrialization was helped greatly by the Soviets. Even after later acrimony with the Russians, Chinese are always thankful to the Russians for that, considering that the Russians weren’t exactly that developed during the 50’s. To quote some facts: China manufactured her first jet fighter, a copy of the Korean War era MiG-15 during the late 50’s with Russian tech transfer. The only significant tech China got from Japan was ‘continuous casting’ used in steel plants during the 80’s.
          ……..

          Lastly, Mao’s greatest deed was not just integration of the people. He told us

          (1) It’s quite all right to rebel against the past. With the possible exception of Confucius’s home town, I could wave a placard “Confucius is an asshole” anywhere in China without inviting a mob.

          (2) To respect physical labor.

          Enough said. Look, I’m a long time observer of India (so are many of the posters at Robert Lindsay’s blog), and don’t try to fool me.

        • Mayur Varshne

          ….3) Hey, have another glass of cool cow piss elixir and relax. You can’t change geo-politico-econ relations easily by your propaganda…..

          I was talking about the supreme Chinese arrogance, from the very beginning. I never denied them their meteoric rise as an economic giant. But it was only pretty natural given their gigantic population and size.
          Also, a far more homogeneous Asiatic population greatly helped it’s cause.

          Chao Chao Mao Mao Pao Pao s are, again, most cordially invited to take on the Indian might, at the macro and micro level. The grass eaters will in ,all probability, prove much more than handful for them.

      • Mayur Varshne

        …..The Hindus are a ‘pride-deficient’ people and often behave like a flat-chested girl wearing a germ-infested padded bra picked up from the garbage can…..

        As matter of fact, the Indian er Hindu girls have much bigger tits and asses, despite their grass eating ways; oriental girls have the smallest tits despite them being voracious meat eaters. Definitely better genetics. White girls find the Orientals to be the least masculine.

        As far as basic integrity and sincerity is concerned, nobody understands the Chini Bhais better than the North Indians.

        Kindly have a good look.

        https://thecoverage.my/news/the-chinese-are-the-most-dishonest-people-in-the-world/

        As far as pride goes, Chao Chao Mao Mao Pao Pao s are most cordially invited to take on the Indian might, both at the macro and micro level. Forget the West, the grass eaters will probably be more than handful for the Chinese.

        I need to remind you of how Mao Zedong thanked the Japanese Emperor for invading the opium infested China in World War Two and greatly aiding the rise of Communist China.

        • Lin

          Hey thank you, I fully enjoy reading your BS since unlike Hindutwadis sites, Robert Lindsay’s blog allows rebuking Hindutwadis BS. You don’t like my analogy of flat chest girl (I didn’t even specify she needs to be Hindu)? I can change it to ‘Hindutwadis behaving like hijras bragging about penis size.’ Hindu girls are poorly nourished but have big breasts? I’m afraid you’ve mistaken starving kids’ swollen belly as breasts or Hindu females as dairy cows.

          Chinese are not honest? Thank you for reminding me, and I’ll keep it on moral watch because unlike you, I don’t consider ‘Honesty is overrated’ as you agree to. That link also says the British are most honest, haha, so all the venomous comments by Churchill on Hindus must be true according to your silly propaganda efforts.

          Just why don’t you admit to your BS or lie that Japan helped China’s first stage of industrialization, and now you diversify your BS that Chinese must thank the Japanese for their invasion? However please do forgive me for pointing out that India’s nuke weapon program actually is counterproductive. But let remind you I don’t hate the Japanese, particularly the later generation. Why should I when the Japan-China trade exceeds US-Japan trade?

          My suggestion:

          1) To help your racial pride, please go ahead and claim Chinese are racially inferior or low IQ or not capable of innovation. I can guarantee I wouldn’t bother (so far here I didn’t), or I might even join the chorus because I think I can help ease ‘yellow peril’ or ‘Sinophobia’.

          2) I suggest you should urge your fellow Hindus to boycott Chinese products in India. Why not ask the solar power installers in India not to use Chinese solar voltaic panels? China only invests US $100 billions per year on the solar energy industry. How about boycotting Huawei cell phones? I heard the profit margin is low. China is spending like mad on new tech like quantum computing, AI, new energy. And 10 years from now, you’ll need a new boycott list. Right now the biggest challenge to Indian manufacturing employment is not from Chinese workers – rather it’s from robots all over the world. You should suggest to your fellow Hindus to put on a R2D2 suit to apply for factory jobs just like I’ve seen Muslim-made toy robots that prostrate towards Mecca.

          3) Hey, have another glass of cool cow piss elixir and relax. You can’t change geo-politico-econ relations easily by your propaganda.

  3. Jason Y

    Capitalism may well be an evil necessity, but that doesn’t mean it’s not evil.

    Right, I don’t think capitalism in the Stalinist model works – but that’s no pat on the back for the opposite.

  4. SHI

    Chinese socialism is a sham. Indeed, major companies are State-owned that turn a sinfully high profit through resource theft, worker exploitation and quality compromises.

    The wealth disparity is very huge. Moreover, your ability to become rich depends on how well-connected you are to the top leaders of the Communist Party who are based in Beijing, Shanghai and the Canton region. The Chinese government discourages the rural poor from migrating to big cities to prevent ugly slums. If you were born into a family of peasants in one of China’s central provinces, tough luck.

    The above statement is true for India as well but seriously, one should never compare India to China. Thanks to State socialism, China is able to provide adequate nutrition for all its citizens regardless of where they live, also offering them access to elementary education and quality healthcare. Everything is possible in life except upward mobility.

    All this comes with a kicker. With unbelievably high smog levels in China’s cities, you are forced to breathe the most polluted air anywhere in the planet.

    • Mayur Varshne

      The Chinese economy is far more diversified.

      Upward mobility is equally hindered in India unless you acquire a nerdy abilities and temperament right from the very beginning.

      In India, the classes are completely indifferent to the common people.

      The lower part of North India including Delhi is terribly polluted, for any outsider.

      However, India has a booming service sector which seems to have come of age, finally with a heavy shot of capitalism. China does not have that.

      • SHI

        If you’re a jerk, you’re more likely to succeed in India than almost anywhere else with the possible exception of the United States. China doesn’t tolerate corporate jerks. They have zero tolerance for those peddling fake drugs and adulterated food, no matter how well-connected, the wrongdoers will be executed and their family made to pay for the bullets. Indeed, they are morally superior to Indians.

        No one can beat Americans though in a game of “I want to get rich quickly. Fuck everyone else.” They are ahead of the game in business frauds. Thanks mostly to the Jews who dominate American mindset.

        • Jason Y

          That could be a real temptation if you had the cash. Note, myself, as noted in another post, would be living high if I had 2000 a month like Robert did. Nonetheless, soon, after becoming comfortable, I might want more and more…Also, a drug habit or the like would make 2000 into literally nothing.

        • Jason Y

          A person with real access to cash or a college education (especially medicine or engineering) would certainly be attracted to “get rich”. Therefore, it seems to be a middle-class thing. For instance, a middle-class guy might desire to be a God, lol, and also he might fear that he won’t have enough for retirement.

  5. Mayur Varshne

    …….because unlike you, I don’t consider ‘Honesty is overrated’ as you agree to…….

    You have me terribly confused with somebody else, Sir.

    And, yes, Indian girls have bigger tits, asses and eyes than the oriental girls, even with all the grass. Clearly, the Indians are much different from the Orientals.

  6. Mayur Varshne

    …..Hey thank you, I fully enjoy reading your BS since unlike Hindutwadis sites, Robert Lindsay’s blog allows rebuking Hindutwadis BS. You don’t like my analogy of flat chest girl (I didn’t even specify she needs to be Hindu)?….

    You have me terribly confused with somebody else, there.

    And, yes, the assertion was pretty clear there; you were, indeed, talking about a Hindu er Indian girl.

    And, yes, after Russia had found China to be a bit too naughty and highhanded for close co-operation, and, therefore wisely withdrawn it’s whole hearted support to Communist China, it was Japan which had provided it the capital and know how for the development of it’s steel industry; the Chinese manufacturing took off a lot later.

    Communist China does not have even a single all weather friend because almost all the other countries find it to be untrustworthy and highhanded. China has always been the aggressor against India, from the very beginning. Worse, it has quite armed a rogue nation such as Pakistan with the sole purpose of weakening India.

    As a matter of fact, Mao did what he did. Kindly have a good look.

    https://www.quora.com/Did-Mao-thank-Japan-for-invading-China

    • Lin

      Your emotional outburst have vividly demonstrated your ‘pride deficiency’ and proved my points.

      **My ‘flat chest girl with padded bra’ statement is only an analogy, and you took it so seriously as I tried to imply Hindu girls having small tits? What about if I change it to ‘a short girl wearing foot fungi infested hi-heel shoes picked up from garbage can’? If that could make you less agitated, I could quote it next time, OR please grow up.

      ** Mao must thank Japanese invasion? That’s more than comical when said by a Hindutwadi. Yes, go ahead and thank the Mughals and Jinnah.

      **”China has always been the aggressor against India from the very beginning.”

      Tell me what can China gain by invading India?

      — Certainly China doesn’t want to conquer any part of India and take over the burden of feeding the hungry millions.

      — Neither India and China have large overlapping area of competing economical interest. Actually I would be glad if India could export beef to China like the Aussies are doing.

      ** Look, I never hesitate to say China is a 3rd world developing country; for example Chinese industrial wages are still below the poorer EU countries like Portugal.

      http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/27/chinese-wages-rise-made-in-china-isnt-so-cheap-anymore.html

      And China is trying hard to keep people employed while spending big on automation. These are the pressing issues Chinese are facing. If you think tit size or a certain past invasion by a foreign country are good or not is so important, it just mean you originated from a Turd World Defecating Country construct (as different from my 3rd World Developing China). I rest my case.

      • Mayur Varshne

        Actually, you are the one who is losing his mind and getting carried away. This blog can not really afford loud aliens.

        Most excellent sir, I am not even remotely a Hindu though yes I am a bit old fashioned. You can call me a de facto Christian. Deeds matter more than labels. As a matter of fact, I am definitely a simple and straightforward person. Only an idiot can mistake me for a militant Hindu.

        Of course, I simply abhor bullies,and, I am not very fond of supremely arrogant, snobbish people. I doubt, if you really read the newspapers on a daily basis. China seems to be losing it’s mind and focus these days. First it talks about Bhutan, then about Sikkim, then about Kashmir, and, then about Ladakh. I bet, the Chinese are quite fond of Indians.

        Chao chao mao mao pao pao s are most cordially invited to get a taste of the Hindu er Indian pride.

  7. Mayur Varshne

    …….. Right now the biggest challenge to Indian manufacturing employment is not from Chinese workers – rather it’s from robots all over the world. …….

    Most excellent sir, you seem to have terribly confused the developed world with something else.

    India does not have much of a manufacturing sector, in relative terms.

  8. Mayur Varshne

    ……Tell me what can China gain by invading India?
    — Certainly China doesn’t want to conquer any part of India and take over the burden of feeding the hungry millions……

    Most excellent sir, you do not seem to know even the basics of imperialism and capitalism.

    Japan did attack a far poorer, terribly opium infested China in the Second World War. There was an extremely good reason to do so.

  9. Mayur Varshne

    …….. it just mean you originated from a Turd World Defecating Country construct (as different from my 3rd World Developing China). I rest my case….

    As a matter of fact, the grass eating inhabitants of one such Turd World Defecating Country are a lot more pleasing to look at than the half apes whom the inhabitants of the so called first world mistake for Asians.

    Besides, many of them never really bother to get their hands dirty like the Chao Chao Mao Mao Pao Pao s.

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