New Interview with Me Up

Conversation between me, Pilleater and The Adventure Kid. I really like both of these two younger guys. Pilleater is an Amerasian man who is promoting something called Asian Aryanism, which promotes the idea that Whites and Asians (NE? SE?) are superior races and they should get together to form a new mixed race.

I think he is also a separatist in that he wants to split off his own state, but instead of a white state like everyone else wants, he wants to have a site for Whites and Asians (and nobody elses). That of course is a racist vision, but it’s one that I can almost stomach, although it will never come to pass anyway.

I have always said that if you are going to be a racist anyway, you might as well hate as few people as possible. Which is why Pan-Aryanism is better than standard White nationalism. While White nationalism is bizarre in insisting that the only White people are from Europe. They conveniently leave out folks like Turks, who are excluded simply on the basis of their religion, and sometimes Armenians, who I guess are just a bit too swarthy, eh? And of course, they insist Jews are not White, but it’s obvious to anyone that Jews are White people. The WN’s just arbitrarily make this distinction because they hate Jews and wish to exclude them.

However, on Stormfront, I believe that they have been bending the rules somewhat. There was a furor a while back when 300 Armenian members were thrown off the site. But after some discussion, Don Black allowed them back on on the basis that Armenians are Whites. Iranians were supposed to be banned as non-Whites, but a number sneaked on anyway and started posting openly as Iranians. Black didn’t do anything, which seems to imply that he thinks Iranians are White.

The conversation covers all sorts of topics. It was supposed to be about the Alt Left, but we ranged all over the place like the free range humans that we are. A lot of psychological discussion, talk about SJW’s; Identity Politics; socialist and capitalist economic systems; China; Japan; socialism, nationalism and national socialism; Marie Le Pen; race and IQ; intelligence, morality and crime; guilt in sociopathy and OCD; gay male culture, behavior and psychopathology; the nature of guilt and its relation to morality and intelligence; the psychological status of modern college students; selfishness; narcissism; the Internet; the marriage of the Cultural Left with neoliberalism; intelligence and crime; Blacks and crime; and Black IQ, etc.

We talked about everything under the sun and even a few nasty things growing in the dark.

Enjoy!

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47 responses to “New Interview with Me Up

  1. TRASH Jr.

    “Pilleater is an Amerasian man who is promoting something called Asian Aryanism, which promotes the idea that Whites and Asians (NE? SE?) are superior races and they should get together to form a new mixed race.”

    Why does he fancy himself “redpilled”? Such fanciful concoctions show just the opposite of being a ‘realist’/”redpilled”.

    The brutal reality is that idiotic prison skinheads that represent a plurality of the WN movement scapegoat Asians in a similar way to Jews.

      • TRASH Jr.

        I couldn’t resist this one.

        • Asian Aryanism doesn’t make any sense. North-Eurasianism made more sense.

        • Beauregard

          BRIANDAMAGE
          Correct, there were similar selections of Europeans and NE Asians, but that is different than an actual ancestral relationship.

        • Yee

          The idea only reflects mix-bloods feeling rejection in America. No sense whatsoever.

          Anyway, it’s foolish to be obsessed with race. I never believe race make much difference between people. I believe culture does, environment does.

        • Beauregard “Correct, there were similar selections of Europeans and NE Asians, but that is different than an actual ancestral relationship.”

          So is Asian Aryanism more correct than North-Eurasianism ancestral relationship-wise? I would say none.

        • TRASH Jr.

          briandamage
          As I understand it, the phenomena is that if two unrelated people are thrust into a similar environment, as Whites and Asians were, they will eventually develop similar phenotypes. Phil could perhaps explain it better.

        • Phil78

          Basically what Briandamage is saying is that, in terms of a ancestral relationship, North Eurasianism is more accurate.

          I believe Trash Jr. is talking about parallel development in the traits Asians and european share, primarily being pale skin and traits relevant towards civilization

        • TRASH Jr.

          phil
          parallel development is correct.

          Wouldn’t that throw a wrench in the whole Ethnic Genetic Interest theory?
          I mean, Blacks and Abos look similar but are more distantly related than any other two groups, yet on the surface, what people grasp intuitively, they are not.

        • Phil78

          In terms of genetic distance, yes and no.

          It could limit the range of genetic distance as an indicator interracially, but it’s consistent with assortive solidarity. That is, the Theory also involves phenotypical traits being the basis of association than just distance.

          I suppose genetic distance would be more powerful within a race, say between families though phenotypical traits and habits would likely still play a role.

        • “Basically what Briandamage is saying is that, in terms of a ancestral relationship, North Eurasianism is more accurate.

          I believe Trash Jr. is talking about parallel development in the traits Asians and european share, primarily being pale skin and traits relevant towards civilization”

          Both Phil and Trash Jr. are right. I was poking fun at the idea of Asian Aryanism but then again it seems phenotype has more relevance in today’s world than genotype. I strongly believe that in a few decades we will see “Northern Eurasia” working more closely as the rest of the world grow in population and demanding more resources. Right now we are seeing the beginning of it. WNs are may clam alliance based on genotype but that era is long gone. When the IQ threshold exceeded 100, many were left in the dust. That is the reason why these WNs are reminiscing the past based on genotype to validate their current predicament.

          Trash in his own way said it best.

    • Dingo

      There’s a good bit of both Pan-Aryanism and Asian admiration in WN movement. During his Augsburg speech Richard Spencer told a Persian, “You’re Whiter than me!”. Jews are the main focus, then NAMs, Asians are barely discussed by comparison. Jared Taylor said something to the effect of Japan makes White countries look 3rd world.

      • TRASH Jr.

        DINGO
        tell that to EP-GAH.
        Tell that to Geert Wilders.
        etc.

        Most WNs are not fond of Iranians or Turks and certainly not Arabs.
        This is utter lunacy.

        • Dingo

          You’re wrong about Iranians. They are admired by many pro-Whites with an interest in History like TheGoldenOne. They are hard not to admire.

        • Dingo

          Iranians are admired by WNs with an interest in History. Held up as an ideal over Greeks in the past, even today young pro-Whites like TheGoldenOne admire them.

        • TRASH Jr.

          DINGO afaict there aren’t many in Western nations. This may be why they are not resented.

          Turks are, however.

        • Phil78

          Dingo, I would resist the habit of generalizing grunts based on the likes of Spencer and Taylor, the latter being particularly under suspicion due to his leniency on Jews.

          Most aren’t that well read or that open-minded.

        • Dingo

          TheGoldenOne is from Sweden, which has quite a few Iranians I believe. Most WN will not speak with the white eloquence of Taylor, but there’s love for Asians boiling under the surface there. Other WN may chastise or mock White dudes into Asians; that WN even have to keep fellow WN in check when it comes to Asians is telling. The average non-WN male doesn’t stack up well against Taylor. White Nationalism is a movement of almost entirely White men, plenty of well-read bookworms with independent minds.

        • Phil78

          Define “Plenty”. You can get some Richard Spencer types but that doesn’t equate to “brotherhood”.

          For Every 1 “TheGoldenOne”, you are going to get 10 Anglins.

          Love for Asians bubbling under the surface? WNs keeping others in check when “it comes to Asians”?

          Exactly where do you get your sample of WNs as you seem to only refer to the Goldenone with no other experiences to back up the rest of what you claim.

          Call me cynical, but there is no real reason For White Nationalists based on their foundation of EUROPEAN preservation and ethnostatehood to seek relations with Asians aside to accept mutual understanding of protectionist goals for each group.

          Not sure why you bring up a non-WN male to compare to Taylor when I’m talking about criticism Taylor receives from WN grunts.

        • Dingo

          The first sentence of my last post, regarding TheGoldenOne, was intended for TRASH jr. There was more elite WN boards than Stormfront and the comedic Daily Stormer. You can quality control better with a smaller group. I’ve been a part of groups with 1 bad apple or occasional troll. Jason here wants to gas all WNs, is he really any better than a WN “grunt”? My main point in bringing up non-WN is to point out that the inferiority of “grunts” is not limited to WN. Taylor seems like he took the blue pill on Jews when he brushes them off as White.

        • Phil78

          To Dingo,

          “There was more elite WN boards than Stormfront and the comedic Daily Stormer. You can quality control better with a smaller group. I’ve been a part of groups with 1 bad apple or occasional troll.”

          I’m not denying that elite ones exist, but rather how much of a generalization can one making of WN stances on Asians with what you describe as “small, quality controlled groups”.

          “Jason here wants to gas all WNs, is he really any better than a WN ‘grunt’ ?”

          I’ve argued plenty with Jason on the subject so on one hand I see your point, regardless it doesn’t really change my skepticism on the general stance of Asians by WNs that you describe in the sense of a norm.

          ” My main point in bringing up non-WN is to point out that the inferiority of “grunts” is not limited to WN.”

          And I never said such, I’m just bringing up their significance.

        • Dingo

          I’m not saying the Asian-Aryan brotherhood is strong. The respect between Asians and Whites is strong though.

        • Phil78

          “I’m not saying the Asian-Aryan brotherhood is strong. The respect between Asians and Whites is strong though.”

          I could agree with that in a certain sense, particularly with the more educated types.

    • Dingo

      Prisoners and skinheads make up a small % of WNs. Even brown inmates get Nazi tats. A founder/leader of the AB was a Jew and members have said it’s more about the White prison minority trying to not get raped/killed.

      • TRASH Jr.

        “it’s more about the White prison minority trying to not get raped/killed.”

        This is true. But the resentment over being ‘sobbing sex partner to a 9-inch NAM’ in prison breeds WNs for life.

  2. TRASH Jr.

    DINGO
    WNs are often times morons, bro. Some are not, but many are.

    WNs kill Sikhs because they think they are Muslims. They have no concern over whether these light skinned Punjabis come from the Aryan Central steppes of Asia.

    • Dingo

      A lot of WN crimes I’ve looked into are hoaxes, including a big Sikh one years ago. True about morons but you could say that about many groups.

  3. Tulio

    Couldn’t see this movement taking off. Racial nationalists tend to believe first and foremost in preserving their bloodline and not diluting it. I couldn’t see why a white nationalist would want to mix with Asians even if he admires Asian people as mixing with them would mean the features unique to Europe such as blonde hair, red hair and blue/green eyes would eventually vanish. They also wouldn’t need to share a nation with Asians as they don’t really need Asians for anything.

    I’m not a believer in racial nationalism, but putting myself in their shoes for a moment, I can’t see why they would be incentivized to want to do this. I think because this guy is Asian and probably admires white nationalism as an outsider, he’s trying make room for himself in the movement. It’s kinda like that mulatto guy in Sweden I read about years ago who was a neo-nazi. I’m sure he wishes the white nationalists would open up membership for mulattos to make room for him since he admires them. I’m sure there are even a couple pure blacks who admire white nationalism who wish they’d make room for a few blacks that like bash other blacks. I’m sure Sheriff Clarke in Milwaukee is one of them.

  4. Magneto

    Fascinating, this is a very interesting concept. White men and Asian women are the true master race. White women are filthy fucking whores whereas Asian women have class.

    It’s a great idea, that way all us white men with asian fetishes can fulfill our desires. White nationalism never made sense to me because I don’t like white women

  5. Frito Pendejo

    The only way I could see Asians & Whites relating to one another is via rivalry, seeing how the East Asian nations are now @ rough parity when it comes to overall wealth vs. the Western World, still as of yet still got a ways to go insofar as military potential is concerned. They’d be no point of Euro-Asian-ism movement, except perhaps as uniting with each other as to jointly dominate the world, as unity can depend as much to being in opposition to towards a common enemy, or @ least a common challenge as it is, something I don’t see coming in being in the foreseeable future, unless…. maybe if an asteroid belt was headed towards planet. Besides that, I don’t think so!

    • At this moment, the rivalry you talked about seems to be common sense as both dominant cultures are competing for resources and affluence. I think the demographic landscape change in the near future will push East Asians and Whites to work together for common goals. I feel the reactionary far right movement spreading across Europe and North America is just a reaction to the pressures of a changing world demographic. These pressures which will intensify as time goes on and new alliances would probably surface to maintain security and standards of living.

      The African, South East Asian & South Asian birthrates dwarf the rest of the world. Europe and East Asia have lower birthrates. Below the replacement threshold. Even China’s birthrate is dismally low. We are projected to have a population of 10 billion people in 30 years. Poverty and hunger will be common for Africans, SEAS and South Asians in the near future.

  6. The Asian/Anglo half breed wants to create a seperate Asian Aryanist state? Also he coincidentally feels the two ethnic groups (because there’s truly only one race) he owes his genetic heritage to are “innately” the superior. Oh big surprise but hey I get it. Its actually the simple obvious conclusion….although incomplete. By incomplete I mean one has to deny or rule out that horrible thing the alt-right shudders when hearing -> “systemic racism” I find it strange these wanna be big brains rule out any & all historic & contemporary factors effecting IQ when they’re so busy talking about how superior they are. This is either consciously or most likely or subconsciously done. Its a way of blaming a down trodden group of people for there condition. Everything a person or group does springs from environment. If your people are decendent from a river valley civilization close to domesticable crops & animals they eventually built pantheons & pyramids. If your decendents lived on a tropical island with none of these things & no “positive” contact with peoples who had these things they more than likely are still building huts & tents. If from birth I drop those Anglo-Asian genes in Australia they’ll be throwing boomerangs & chasing kangaroo’s too

  7. Tulio

    You know if this was to be done, maybe it should be done in Australia. It’s already situated near Asia and it’s already in the process of being slowly taken over by Chinese and Vietnamese. Plus it’s about the size of the USA yet is sparsely populated. We really don’t need any more people in the USA anyway with a population of 320 million. Australia only has about 24 million people are so they’ve got a lot of empty space to fill out.

    • Most of Australia is desert. Only the periphery are comfortably habitable. But yeah, Australia is naturally in Asia and naturally will have Asian immigration pressures. The question for Australia is not whether it should allow more Asian immigration but what type of Asian immigration. Indonesia is just right next door. Indonesia’s creeping Wahhabism, and the porous Northern Australia border……..You get the drift.

    • Yee

      Such a country already exist, the Philippines.

    • what hurts Australia is all the desert. Unlike America wich had grassy plains streatching from sea to sea. Australia wouldn’t be able to substain 300 plus million people. When I said “dropping Anglo-Asians in Australia” Im more alluding to doing so in pre colonial times or an ancient period before Europeans brought in tools that helped tame the land & civilization

  8. Jason Y

    Having Stormfront’s membership put in a massive gas chamber would be –
    just the start of the fun – if I were president.

    😆

    • Jason Y

      There almost a complete and utter waste of humanity. I’d have more interest in keeping the villains on Batman alive, lol. And that is true for Daily Stormer also.

  9. Jason Y

    WNs don’t like Northeast Asians, even if they admit they’re smart. At least in the US, there are too many grudges due to war and also there is economic jealousy from proles, and finally, the Japs etc.. just look funny. It’s sort of a primitive childish xenophobia, I suppose.

    • WNs are not relevant in the grander scheme of things. They are just opportunists hoping to cash in on their “genetic superiority” based on the narrative that was written by the colonial masters. At the end of the day, if you don’t cut it, no matter what race you are you will not cut it.

      • TRASH Jr.

        Truthfully rednecks in The Flyover are unconcerned about what memes 14 year old autists on 4chan will come up with next.

        Trumpenstein is as well.

        Alt-rightists are solely used as a strawman by mainstream media to portray right-wingers generally.

        They’re tools, essentially.

  10. Robert who is more intelligent in your opinion: Brahmins or east asians?

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