(((Beauregard))): Extroversion is effective for society to function – people have to seek out what they need to progress it. If everyone was timid there would’ve never been group efforts to invent things, etc.
This if anything is more necessary than “boyhood bullying”, etc. Quite simply, that can breed dumbassery.
I am not sure why you think the inverse is true.
If it breeds dumbassery, most men I know must be dumbasses.
The rough and tumble world of Boyhood seems to be a necessity to turning a boy into a man. Without it, you will not have a good transition and you will have a lot of not-men instead of men. It’s important because it teaches how to act like a man and punishes you when you do not act like a man. That’s called learning.
It’s not bullying if you are all doing it to each other, and you are all best friends anyway.
Bullying effeminate boys teaches you the lesson that death is better than effeminacy. It also teaches you that there’s nothing worse than homosexuality, so don’t do it! We used to play Smear the Queer. One guy would get on this huge ball and bounce around on it. He was automatically the Queer. The rules were that the Queer got destroyed. So the Queer would get on the bouncing ball, and we would all try to waste him to knock him off the ball. The Queers actually enjoyed getting hit. This game taught me a simple lesson: Queers get their asses kicked. You do gay stuff, and someone’s going to beat you up.
Bullying crybabies teaches you that men don’t cry. In my world, crybabies got hit. No questions asked. We were going to beat the tears right out of those little sissies. So in a way, I was taught, “You cry, you get hit.”
Bullying complete idiots teaches you to not act like a goddamned retard. This teaches you that “Idiots get hit and teased. So don’t be an idiot or you’re going to get hit!”
Bullying pathologically mean boys teaches you not to be a psycho. This teaches you that if you are going to act like a future serial killer, you will have no friends and people will tease you and hit you everywhere you go. Living Hell. So don’t be a psycho!
You want to create a society where men don’t even act like men, go for it. But leave me out of your social experiment.
One final thought: I believe that this rough and tumble world is just boys being boys. Boys will be boys. Left completely alone, boys may well act this way simply because they are programmed to.
There is a radical feminist site I like to go to just to read crazy people. These women absolutely hate all men. Mostly they want to kill us off. They keep talking about “the 10%.” That means we need to get society down to 10% men. One woman said, “Well sure we hate men, but boys are ok, right?”
Another radfem answered: “How well do you know boys? Boys are little monsters!”
That’s sounds bad, but I sat back and thought, “This radfem has really got us figured out. Of course boys are monsters.”
That’s the way I remember Boyhood anyway. Not that that’s a bad thing. I enjoyed being a monster is a world full of little monsters. It was a blast.
I can’t tell you how many times my parents screamed at us and punished us brothers for fighting. Didn’t do the slightest bit of good. Not even 1%. Even my father was outraged.
“I had two brothers and we never fought, ever! Brothers fighting! Disgraceful!”
They might as well have been talking to a wall. I am not sure what my brothers were thinking, but I just thought my parents were being stupid and my Dad was a fuddy-dud stick in the mud. I simply thought that brothers fighting was completely normal because we had been doing it forever. Anyway we three were always pretty much best friends anyway. That’s what people don’t get. Boys fight with the beloved siblings and best friends all the time. Doesn’t harm the relationship because boys just think teasing and fighting is normal behavior.
My mother was raised in a house with five girls so boys were a mystery to her. Nevertheless, I always thought she figured us out better than my father did. She had a sort of “boys will be boys” attitude.
In other words, trying to create this serene Boyhood that’s not rough and tumble Bootcamp for Manhood is probably like shoveling sand against the tide. You can push it all you want, but I don’t think it’s going to work. Sure we’re monsters, and that can be a problem. But we are probably programmed to be little monsters, and all the social engineering in the world won’t do much to that.