Note to commenters: Please stop referring to Unsub as a pedophile. He may well be one, but that’s something that can be determined from this crime as it was not a pedophilic offense. Instead, this was a hebephilic offense. And the perpetrator could certainly be seen as a hebephile, although he’s not necessarily one. If you want to refer to the nature of the offense, use the word hebephilic instead of pedophilic. If you wish to refer to Unsub’s paraphilia, please refer to him as a hebephile and not a pedophile.
Thank you so much for this. I am getting tired of words being misused. And now we are being scientific on the board.
And you all just learned a new word – hebephile! I will not tell you what it means. Instead I will send you off to discover that yourself, which is not difficult at all.
Note 2 to commenters: I am really getting sick and tired of saying this, but most of the material below is made up of rumors and my own opinions and theories. None of that is represented as fact. The only thing that is represented as fact as statements sourced from LE or the media.
And incidentally, the way I wrote up the case is precisely how detectives work a case. Detectives do not work cases using the scientific method. If they did, they would hardly solve one case. It’s more “We believe this for now…this is true for now…at the moment, this is what we think happened…we believe…” They are throwing out endless theories about what really happened and accepting them as (temporary) facts. They are then continuously revising and throwing out theories and creating new ones.
Being a detective is about being wrong. Not just once, but being wrong over and over so many times your head will want to come off. If you can’t handle being wrong, then detective work is surely not for you. Finally detectives arrive at enough information to file a case against someone, but a lot of that is not factual either. They believe he did the crime. They believe that this, that, or the other happened with no way to really prove it – it’s just what they conjecture.
If he is convicted, then the theory that he did the crime is validated as fact, but I am not sure what other evidence is. And even court decisions are not scientific fact because they get overturned all the time. There are not a whole lot of 100% certain, clear scientific facts in LE work, detective work on the judicial system itself. A good portion of the decisions made turn out to be theories, temporary but unstable facts, beliefs, hunches and guesswork, all represented as fact in the court.
If you have issues with theories, opinions and what not, just quit reading and get the Hell off my site right now and never come back. I am really getting sick and tired of this BS.
Major update here: Updated March 17: Sexually-Motivated Double Homicide in Delphi, Indiana, February 13, 2017: Liberty German and Abigail Williams. The only new addition was sourcing to please all the haters, but even with all the sourcing, the haters are still upset as it’s still not good enough.
Sexually-motivated double homicide of two teenage girls, one 13 and the other 14. For some background on this heartbreaking case, see here.
I like to do “sleuthing” in my part time. Although it’s gruesome, playing detective is a bit of a hobby of mine, and it is engrossing in some odd way.
I would like to throw a lot of stuff out there.
My Musings on This Case
The girls were obviously tied up, I believe with a rope. There is a rumor that LE retained some rope with DNA. There is no evidence at the moment that this is true, but it is possible.
Initial reports said the girls were found in a cabin or shack. Rumors came from family members and were the first reports about the case. These are false rumors. The girls were found in open forest.
I believe that Libby was killed on 2-13, possibly pretty quickly, and Abby died or 2-14. The published obits state those dates. There is a rumor that the families chose those dates as death dates, but that would apply only to funerals, not obits. Obit info would come straight from coroner report. Therefore, the coroner report had to state different death dates. There is a rumor that Abbie survived the initial attack but died later on of hypothermia and that her body was still warm when found. This rumor appears to be correct, and along with the different dates on the obits, adds weight to the theory that they died on different days.
When the search was going on, both phones were dead.
This was probably not a crime of opportunity. He probably planned this very well. He plans his crimes with the utmost meticulousness. That is why he is armed with the gun and disguising himself.
Unsub is clearly trying to disguise himself in the photos. He is using a hat and a scarf in front of his face to do this. As stated by LE.
Talk of backpacks and duffel bags makes no sense to me. I do not believe that Unsub had a backpack or a duffel bag, but perhaps he did. At any rate, there was a man dressed in all black seen at the time also. This man definitely had a backpack. I believe that this man participated in the murders with Unsub. In other words, there were two killers.
There is a rumor that Abbie was barely alive when found and died on the way to the hospital. Rumor came straight from family members. This is probably a false rumor, but it is somewhat close to the truth. Another rumor says she was dead, but the body was still warm. This rumor is much better and appears to be closer to the truth.
In published UK media, grandfather who raised her made an odd statement, “I know Libby. She put up one Hell of a fight.” The grandfather has been cleared. However, he is correct that Libby put up a strong battle. The reason that the grandfather said she put up a wild fight is probably because that is what it says in the medical report. If she fought hard, there will be talk of defensive wounds and maybe DNA under her nails. In that case, Unsub may have scratch marks.
I do not believe that LE has any particular POI at this moment. They are far away from solving this case.
The first thing they did was to go around questioning people who were being talked about as possible suspects. They have already cleared a number of people this way. They are also going around to all of the local RSO’s and questioning them. They wanted them to come talk about the case. While there, they searched their phones and asked them to submit DNA. They are clearing at least some of the RSO’s this way.
The raid was on the property of the Jim Maxwell who lives on Bicycle Road. He is completely innocent and cleared. This poor guy had nothing to do with it.
I believe the gun obviously holstered on the right under the jacket of Unsub was used to control the girls. He also got them to keep quiet, maybe with the gun. However, I believe the gun was used to kill the girls. It would have made too much noise. Rumors that this was not a gun crime are correct.
Early rumors stated that both girls had their throats slit. This rumor appears to be correct. I believe that the crime scene was a bloody and ugly mess, a real horrorshow. Funerals were open casket, and witnesses stated that both girls had scarves covering their necks, more to cover something up than as clothing. This adds weight to the theory that their throats were slit. Libby also had small wounds in many places on her body, and her face had been somewhat injured. This is because she fought back against him very hard.
This is obviously a sexually motivated offense. Initial reports said both girls were raped. There is no evidence that this is true, but in my opinion, Abbie was definitely raped. Whether Libby got raped is not known, and there are problems with the theory. One theory is that he kept Abbie alive overnight to use her. This theory is correct. There is no evidence of physical torture in this case.
Unsub is aged 50-60 based on his photos, voice and other things.
Jim Logan was in Lafayette on 2-13, and Unsub may have known he would not be there. How he knew this, I have no idea.
He’s going to lay low for a while. He won’t do any similar crimes in the near future. He’s not that stupid.
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