Fight Over “Faggot!” Remark One, Two and Three

Jason Y: Only massively hypermasculine men would kill someone accusing them of being gay. Other people possibly get hurt by it, but either ignore it or maybe try to insult them back, but in a low-key manner, maybe with some “Fuck you” remark or something.

White Dawg: I agree with you, Jason. If you are remotely masculine and not mentally ill, you would counter with a put down of some sort. One might choose to ignore but usually, one does say “Fuck you, blow me” in one way or the other. Sometimes, during the fighting ages – teens, late adolescence or early twenties, calling someone something similar to this would be the last words used to start the actual fistfight.

But, murder, no. Maybe accidental manslaughter.

Keywords are “not mentally ill”.

I live in the hood. It’s full of Mexicans, who are massively hypermasculine, and Blacks, and you know what they are like. We also have a fair number of Arabs. Do you think Arabs are hypermasculine? The few Whites around here are essentially the dregs. The very few good-looking White girls around here are all hooked with really lousy, ghetto, thuggish Black guys. The guys look like total scum, but the White girls eat em up like chocolate.

A good way to get punched or even killed in Latin America is to challenge a man’s masculinity in any way. In fact in a number of those countries, you can just about get away with such a crime, as it is considered an honor crime, and a man has a right to defend his honor down there, with his fist or maybe even with a gun or a knife.

Down there, some guy calls another guy a faggot pussy, and the other guy pulls out a knife and stabs him. Most men down there will have no sympathy for the guy who got killed. They will say that he was asking for it, and what did he expect was going to happen? No sympathy for idiots. He would be treated like a guy who jumps into the polar bear exhibit as the zoo and gets killed. So what! Darwin Award!

About the guy who did it, a lot of guys will just shrug their shoulders and say, “Yeah, well, a man has to defend his honor…I might do the same.”

They would agree that it is a tragic situation for both parties, and it is a rather sad and not joyous occasion, but they will tend to have a “What do you expect?” attitude towards the killer. They might be inclined to let him go. They won’t cheer for him, and they will think it is all a tragic mistake, but they will not want to persecute him either.

Fight Over “Faggot!” Remark One

When I was 19, I went out with a couple of my friends. My friends were quite good-looking Alpha type guys (surfer/stoner/drug dealer types), and actually that description in the parenthesis would be a good description of me too. I don’t know if I was good-looking or not, but people were always raving about how handsome I was, so perhaps I looked good.

One of the guys knew these two single chicks who lived alone. Problem was they were fat, but they were very nice and sort of pretty too. They were about 19. We went in the apartment and the vibes were  crazy. These two fat chicks were giving off vibes like, “Whoa! We won the lottery! When do we get a chance to get guys like this? How do we get these guys to fuck us? Goddamn, we want to fuck you hot guys so bad! We are going to tie you guys up and rape you here!” and we were giving off vibes like, “Um, don’t think so, you chicks are really nice, but you’re fat, sorry lol.” The sexual tension was so thick you could cut it with a knife. Nobody said much along those lines, but you could feel the sexual cold front like a heavy fog.

So nothing really happened.

We went to this party across the way. I think we went with those girls. There was booze, hard liquor and I think a lot of pot. By 11 PM I was seriously wasted, and the room was rotating on its axis. All three of us guys were in the kitchen, and all of us were straight. The two other guys were seriously macho, almost scary. Some guy tried to one-up or AMOG us. He pointed to all three of us, noted that we were all together, had been together all night and had not gotten any women, therefore, we must be faggots. He was not very nice about it either.

My friend suddenly turned around and hit him hard. They guy flew back against the wall, and there was a serious fight for awhile. We left later and were talking in restaurant and decided that a comment like that could only have been answered with a punch. I said I was not sure if I would hit someone who called me that, and the guy who threw the punch said, “I sure hope you would,” and looked at me disdainfully and dubiously. The other guy agreed. Their attitude was, if you do not answer that comment with a punch, you are seriously pussy or probably a fag yourself. You are disgusting and disreputable, you are not any sort of man at all, and we will not associate with you anymore. You are a worm. Oh and you’re probably a fag yourself.v

Fight Over “Faggot!” Remark Two

This guy named RG was one of meanest and evilest bullies around. Basically your worst nightmare of an antisocial juvenile delinquent. He called me a fag in the 8th grade one day after school. I am not sure what else he did. I think he started something physical or challenged me to fight.

At any rate, he did something provocative, and there was a huge fight between him and me. I held my own somehow. It wasn’t fun at all, but a huge crowd of guys gathered around, and they were all cheering and yelling like it was a football game. Good times! The fight ended with no one winning. Everyone agreed that I had to hit him in those circumstances. My net worth at the school increased exponentially after that fight. Before I was a wimp, but now there was this new respect. I was still sort of geek, but now I was a dangerous and honorable geek and plus I was probably not a fag either, and that at least earns a nod.

Fight Over “Faggot!” Remark Three

A couple of years after incident one at age 21, I was at this party my friends threw. We were all drinking beer, and it was about 10-11 PM. RG came up to me.

Well, RG could never get laid ever for some reason even though he was a psychopathic bully. He was almost too mean and ugly to get laid if that’s even possible. He was a doper all through high school, and I think even the booze set in which was unusual for high school, as alcs were rare. After high school, he turned full-blown alcoholic, dressed poorly, never combed his hair, smelled bad, was as ugly as ever and stumbled around drunk most of the time. Of course he was just as mean as ever, but now he was regarded as a pity case, being a drunk.

He staggered up to me at the party outside and said, “Lindsay LOL. You faggot LOL.” Well that’s one thing, and who knows how to respond? But while he is doing this, he took his beer and poured it down the front of my open  shirt. Now where I grew up, if someone does that, you have to hit them. You must. No two ways about. If you don’t, you are a pathetic, sissy fag and no one will talk to you anymore. Well, I hit him about as soon as he did that, and a wild fistfight broke out.

Somehow the fight migrated into the kitchen, and the women as usual were yelling, “Both of you guys are going to jail!” the way they always do.

Some people were asking what to do, but one guy said, “Don’t worry. Just leave them alone. Bob will kick his ass.”

The kitchen cleared out fast, and the fight got seriously nuts and even dangerous. I was so mad I picked up a kitchen table, lifted it over my head and smashed the table right down on his head! Yep. I hit a man over the head with a table! With a table. I can’t believe I did that. I did it with such force that the wooden table broke into many pieces, and RG crashed to the ground, nearly out cold and badly hurt but not dead or even close. Eventually, RG picked himself up, staggered over to me and shook my hand. I guess he wasn’t going to call me a faggot anymore that night.

There was some frenzied discussion about what I did.

“Geez man. Bob broke the damn table! Is that ok? Should we let him get away with that? He should pay for it.”

The attitude of most including the owners of the house was, “So what, who cares if he smashed the  table to bits? It was worth it for RG to get his ass kicked. Bob should not be made to pay for the table. Just forget it.”

I would be careful calling people that. Those are fighting words where I was brought  up.

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53 responses to “Fight Over “Faggot!” Remark One, Two and Three

  1. These days “faggot” isn’t so much a matter of fighting words as grounds-for-dismissal words if somebody overhears it or sees it on social media. The faggots have outsourced retaliatory punching to the state and/or the social justice infrastructure and relegated it to the realm of financial injury.

    • Jason Y

      Well, why not? Some right-wingers are saying people are doing law-fare (as opposed to warfare), but I cannot really blame them. I mean they’re putting up with this crap in grade school. Now they’re out and saying, “Enough is enough ! “

      • The hurt feelings economy, eh? Sounds expensive … or lucrative, depending on which side of the stall you’re on.

        • Jason Y

          It might be expensive, but possibly some gays are so fed up that they just want some people to hang. Hey, well about blacks getting lynched for just mildly disrespecting whites in time’s past?

        • Doesn’t say much for their cumulative contribution to the social fabric, does it? Maybe William S. Burroughs was right and homosexuals are entitled to a Zionist-style “gay state”. San Francisco and Hollywood might furnish the germ of such an enterprise. Hopefully that can be accomplished without the straight-massacring death squads Burroughs envisioned and advocated. Maybe they could call it BiroGRIDSzhan.

      • I’m sure George Michael cares if Clint the part-time Gas Station attendant calls him a “faggot” because he is behind on alimony payments but has a strong heterosexual dick.

        Gays keep populations down. More men should be homosexual, which would also give dirty bastards like me greater access to females.

        I wish every man but myself was gay. I’d be able to save money.

  2. Jason Y

    Down there, some guy calls another guy a faggot pussy, and the other guy pulls out a knife and stabs him. Most men down there will have no sympathy for the guy who got killed. They will say that he was asking for it, and what did he expect was going to happen? No sympathy for idiots. He would be treated like a guy who jumps into the polar bear exhibit as the zoo and gets killed. So what! Darwin Award!

    Kids are calling each other that all the time. Always have and always will. You mean they should KILL every time their feelings are hurt? I though you are on the cultural right, not left?

  3. Jason Y

    A big reason people hate blacks, Mexicans is because a number of them are just too angry and hypermasculine. Of course, people would be scared of anyone like that. For instance, there was this news story of a black guy who killed a woman in a bar, simply cause she insulted him. It sorts me of that scene on GoodFellas where the waiter was shot dead cause he told Joe Pesci to go fuck himself (in jest) . 😆

    • Juanny Boy

      Nailed it here, Jason.
      Other than the really low IQ folks who just respond based on appearance, this is perhaps the big reason people dislike Blacks. I will not the ‘hyper masculinity’ is a bit more friendly/less ethnocentric in rural Black guys. This is also true of Mexicans, they seem to be more respectful of other races than Blacks. Perhaps it is because Whites are bigger than them 😆

    • Blacks and Mexican insults don’t really sting. “Bitch” or “punk” are not going to be hurtful to the average white male.

      If I tell a Mexican he is a raped-up guinea pig orphaned product of white men using Indian women badly out, that will sting.

      Or that Black man comes from the sperm of some British slime-ball who had to purchase an African girl because he could not get a white woman to marry him.

      Blacks and Mexicans don’t care about prison. Guaranteed employment and the food is free. Cleaner than the rental apartments they live in.

      They know they are going to be in jail sooner or later and most of them are dimly aware that whites and Asians have a better CV.

      Usually by 15 or 16 their fate is sealed anyhow. High school dropout, Mom alcoholic and neglectful or worse a prostitute, father a shadowy figure they don’t know, drug dealing, gang activity.

      They have nothing to lose by spending 40 years in jail. Its full of people they can identify with.

  4. Jason Y

    That’s interesting the part in Robert’s article about defending your honor. See, I tried to do that when I was in middle school, but it was just like throwing a rock at a bees nest. I did it because Hollywood movies like The Karate Kid or Rocky told me to do so.

    Anyhow, I can see why gangbangers kill because that’s the only way you can defend your honor. Fighting doesn’t work anymore, especially if you cannot fight. Killing though is extreme.

    • Gangs kill over drug-distribution territory. Racism comes into this territorial equation because Mexicans for example do not want Crips or white Bikers undercutting their bottom lines.

      • Jason Y

        Yeah, I think Robert is exaggerating things. I don’t think these people kill over petty names. I mean shit, look at all the name-calling on White Men Can’t Jump.

    • Mexicans and blacks don’t care. Their life is over at 15 anyhow in terms of societal status. Jail is actually cleaner than their apartment with its roaches and garbage.

      Dimly they are aware that in a post-industrial society Asians and whites and Jews are simply intellectually more capable of high earning-power.

      Nothing to lose.

  5. Juanny Boy

    I suspect the macho Stabbings are mainly a Central America Mafia oriented thing.
    It is true however that even educated Latrinos are macho…i have seen this many times.

    • Jason Y

      What what are they supposed to act like? Little girls? Women? You mean they like sports and don’t cry? I don’t think their masculinity, for most of them, is fake and pompous, it’s just how men normally act.

      • Juanny Boy

        Not Jews, or at least Ashkenazi-Americans.
        They do not place emphasis of Hyper-masculinity.

        Now they ARE called ‘whiny bitches’….
        but a lot is just motivated by jealousy.
        That’s why I love them….

        • JUANNY BOY You wouldn’t want to hang around Coney Island gas stations and Bronx docks calling Russian Jews “faggots”. One of them would fight you.

          Seinfeld would lead you to believe that Jews are all funny, jovial and self-effacing.

          Winehouse, Necro the Rapper and Ron Jeremy are the sort you will actually meet hanging around the Bronx. Trust me, it does not take much to get jumped by them.

        • Juanny Boy

          Who grovels to who for a job, ultimately?

          Which states do foreigners wish to visit? New York and Los Angeles or Oklahoma?

          Whose kids have to eat Macaroni and cheese three days a week and have to take out huge student loans? Theirs?

          Who probably gets more sex from better-looking women?

          If you have a wonderful job and a house and nice car and good stock options why blow it to get your hands dirty fighting a thug outside KFC?

          Who’s daughter dates a black thug because the media tells them too? The German Jew’s daughter?

        • Jews are headed somewhere nice for pleasure or money. Why stop to get your hands bruised and dirty because a lousy slob loser or NAM with nothing questions your sexuality when you get more blowjobs in nice hotel rooms in a weekend than he will in a lifetime.

          There is no profit margin in fighting greasy slobs who call you a faggot because they have time on their hands and nothing to lose with no job on the streets.

          Fighting losers on the street proves nothing. You’re just another NAM if you do that.

        • JUANNY BOY

          Who whines like a bitch for a higher wage, better public schools, more government assistance, lower interest rates, less rent-seeking…the whiners ain’t Jewish. Nor Asian. Dollars to donuts they will be white or Hispanic or Blacks.

          Hyper-masculinity does not earn a time. Maybe low-class dumber women are attracted to such behavior but after the age of 18 the hot intelligent girls are looking for material gain themselves.

        • Juanny Boy

          TRASH
          I should’ve clarified and said secular Jews.
          I would not want to get into a brawl with Crooklyn Chasidim I agree.

        • Jason Y

          Hyper-masculinity does not earn a time. Maybe low-class dumber women are attracted to such behavior but after the age of 18 the hot intelligent girls are looking for material gain themselves.

          Deep down, higher IQ women are not attracted to hypermasculinity, unlike what Robert says. However, exposing feelings is still generally suicide in a society and is so easy on social media cause often political ideas etc. are exposed. I caused me to practically be crucified at this community college.

      • Whether whites raped local women or simply had casual sex with indigenous women and abandoned them a society like Philippines or Mexico that grew out a load of illegitimate children from conquering races is not the best start to a new civilization and I posit that probably Anglo colonies did better because women were imported for sexual relief and families instead of mixed children became the inheritors of these colonies.

        • Jason Y

          Are saying mixed families are NOT real families? That’s most certainly a lie. Note, not trying to be PC here, but look at the facts.

      • Historically a great deal of the initial conquest of Latin America involved single males and not families. This might have been an unstable framework as a result.

    • Headsup

      Lots of latrinos carry knives, not just gangsters.

      • HEADSUP As Trejo’s character demonstrated in Desperado, they know how to utilize them quite well.

        Generally they are small and in an man on man street fight against a black or redneck they will be out-muscled but in a knife fight grace, reflexes and endurance will have more importance.

        Fights usually turn into wrestling matches which turn into weight and strength contests so blacks or rednecks are going to defeat them.

        In a knife fight its a matter of pain-tolerance, reflexes, endurance, speed.

        • jose

          Not. Mexicans are quite good fighting with their hands, it’s even something cultural. The same here for example with Paraguayans.

  6. The more educated and professional a Latino the more likely he is to be a pale-skinned elite as oppose to an Indian.

    • Juanny Boy

      Yes but they are Meds and Meds act very masculine.

      • I would not call somebody in a New Jersey pizza parlor a “faggot” either. I’d say light-skinned Mexicans are like Italian-Americans.

        Generally they probably would not stab you but rather would put you in the hospital for two weeks.

        • Juanny Boy

          TRASH
          I am not aware of any Cuban gangs other than a few in the “fresh of the boat days” (1959-1965).

          They beat the shit out of Lee Harvey Oswald for handing out pro- Castro fliers in New Orleans in Spring 1963. But obviously they did not kill him.

          Law and order was tougher back then but who would’ve blinked twice when they killed some Dishonarably discharged commie in those days?

  7. Juanny Boy

    TRASH
    Gang activity is not a statement on the alleged inferiority or superiority of the intellect of a group.
    Meds, per the immigration act of 1924 supposedly only represented 11% of America, and that remained constant until now with quotas and trends.

    Nords represent 65%-11% or 54%.
    Who is going to join gangs if not solely for political clout?
    I also suspect it emerged in Sicily because the Spanish were dicks to the natives when they ruled it. It was a form
    of ‘protecting muh people'(or robbing them sometimes) not just pure thuggery.

  8. jose

    It’s something that maybe exist into most part of heterosexual men of the planet, but also something cultural. Argentina is maybe one of the less violent Latin American countries, but I think that most part of heterosexual men will try to hurt you if you really question their sexuality, even if it’s to annoy them (at least that you are his friend and it’s a joke, like friends here can insult between them sometimes). And when lower is the social class, probably bigger is the percentage of men that would reaction agresively and worse would be the violence.

    That’s also why homosexuals are very careful in try to seduce men that seem heterosexual. If they do it, is in a passive way and making it clear that you will be the active male of the hypotetical sexual relation. The same with transexuals, but many of them are working-class/lower-class people that have a men body, and usually practice prostitution in dirty and dangerous places, so usually they have had to dealed with violence many times (thieves, violent clients, rapists, haters, cops, etc.) and thus they know fight, and also have knifes or guns for self-protection.

    • JOSE

      Argentinians seem to be mostly Italians and Gallegos Spanish as oppose to pure Red Indian tribes or the descendants of Andalusian Moors.

      “She-males” almost always carry knives and I do not blame them. I’m sure they need them from time to time.

      • jose

        I put an example of a relatively quiet Latin American country (but with a big increase of violent robbery in medium-sized and especially big cities).

        And obviously Argentines are usually descendants mostly of Italians and Spaniards, but also, most part of population have some native ancestry (and also there is a big minority without Amerindian ancestry).

        Amerindian ancestry obviously comes from various ethnic groups, but, if we take it as a whole, it’s the third bigger ancestry behind Italian and Spanish (bigger than ancestries from Germany, Poland, Ukraine, Ireland, France, Russia, Lebanon, Syria…).

        • JOSE I think the Aztecs and Colombian Indians were particularly brutal and violent tribes and this is demonstrating in the LA Barrios or Miami Cocaine Wars of the 1980’s.

          Additionally the Spanish who colonized the Southwest of the United States were Andalusian Moors as oppose Italian engineers or Gallegos political refugees that immigrated to Buenos Aires.

          Same with Uruguay and some other South American countries.

  9. jose

    TRASH

    “I think the Aztecs and Colombian Indians were particularly brutal and violent tribes and this is demonstrating in the LA Barrios or Miami Cocaine Wars of the 1980’s.

    Additionally the Spanish who colonized the Southwest of the United States were Andalusian Moors as oppose Italian engineers or Gallegos political refugees that immigrated to Buenos Aires.

    Same with Uruguay and some other South American countries.”

    Not. There were violent and less-violent peoples everywhere in the Americas. This violence of drug cartels it’s something cultural more than racial. Look to Pablo Escobar, he was white.

    Avas and ethnic groups that desprended from them (Mbyas, Kiowas, etc.) were very violent and practiced ritual anthropophagy. Quechuas were afraid of them like Chinese were afraid of Mongols or some Europeans were afraid of Vikings. Avas expanded a lot (that’s why various ethnic groups desprended from them), they were present from center of Brazil to the west coast of River Plate (which actually is the estuary of Parana river), and from coasts of southern Brazil to the east of Bolivia and northeast of Argentina. In that region of Bolivia and a little of Argentina (and also the extreme west of Paraguay), they never were conquered by Spaniards, and only were defeated in 19th century by armies of “modern” nations like Argentina, Paraguay and especially Bolivia (whose government was who most fought against Avas).

    • White women immigrated to Argentinia and families are more stable than a bunch of soldiers or male vagrants from Spain producing orphans with Red Indian women in Mexico or Colombia or Mulatto people of Brazil.

      Countries populated by orphans produced through rape or prostitution by are not historically not going to be as stable as those populated by white families such as the Italians of Buenos Aires or Uruguay or Gallegos Cubans.

      • jose

        You believe too much in that theory of massive rapes from European invaders to Amerindians and black slaves. In fact, most part probably were not rape at all, which don’t mean that frequently those ties formed stable families or stable marriage for many years, but most part were not rapes, were allowed relationships.

        And many Italian/Spaniards immigrants in Argentina were farmers, in fact, many European immigrants in general were farmers, but it’s true that many of them arrived as families, at least those from Central and Eastern Europe (Spaniards and Italians not so much, in fact, most part of them were lonely men).

        • Hey Jose, new blog policy is regular commenters have to donate. $10 and you can comment here until I die! Cool or what!? I know you are in Argentina and if this is some sort of hardship to you, email me and we will see if we can work something out.

          I really enjoy your comments here which counteract a lot of the elitist comments on here. Lends an antiracist flavor to the site, but you’re not nuts about it. You are straight up. And I love your myth-busting. You really show Latin America how it really is with all the lies and illusions stripped away.

        • JOSE A society of orphans is not the best start of a new nation and I believe this is the difference between stable South American countries or Cuba and Mexico or Central America.

        • Jason Y

          I second that. Massive rapes are not going to produce a mixed population. GET REAL. Sure, there was some massive inequality in the mating, but so is there now in the Phillippines.

  10. jose

    “Hey Jose, new blog policy is regular commenters have to donate. $10 and you can comment here until I die! Cool or what!? I know you are in Argentina and if this is some sort of hardship to you, email me and we will see if we can work something out.”

    I will e-mail you, because I don’t know how donate, I don’t have a credit card like asks Paypal. And my amount will be very low beacause 1 dollar is like 16 pesos today. So I can send you 100 pesos and would be like 6 dollars and some cents. I win 5000 pesos per month.

  11. Grown men past age 24 looking for fights are morons. You shouldn’t even have a fight, even when insulted, unless your life or lives of love ones are in danger.

    • jose

      So here there are many morons. But more than look for fights, it’s pretty common that men to react agressively to disrespect or provocations. This agressiveness increase when younger is a man and also when lower is it social class and it level in the educational system.

      I’m not homophobic but I will get angry if a homosexual try to seduce me, unless that I was doing something very effeminate, which I never do. In the normal case of passive homosexual trying to suck my dick or being fucking in the ass by me, would be disgusting but not so dramatic like if tries to seduce me putting me in the passive place of the hypotetical homosexual relation. This have to be responsed with violence because it’s a fucking provocation and lack of respect. Homosexuals almost never do that, even masculine homosexuals, for this reason (they don’t know how crazy, drunk, agressive, etc. is the other, or even if it’s homophobic).

      Once a homosexual was talking to me into a discotheque obviously for seduce me in some moment, and was a passive one. He was looking at me all the time and smiling, which caused me repulsion almost by inertia, and in some moments he talked to me of any stupid thing only for be close to me, and in a moment that he was dancing close to me, I was just about to punch him in the face (which would have caused the security guards to kick me out of the place and the police take me detained for several hours or a whole day), I talked to him in a bit aggressive way to make it clear that I like women and that he did not have to try to seduce me because I would hit him. This was the end of the incident, nothing more was necessary. And I was a bit drunk but after all usually I am pretty quiet, because I know other people who would have hit him at the first approach.

  12. I’m not frequent commenter and already made triple digit donation to this website. You’re Welcome.

  13. jose

    TRASH

    “A society of orphans is not the best start of a new nation and I believe this is the difference between stable South American countries or Cuba and Mexico or Central America.”

    In all case, a society of many kids with single mothers, not orphans.

  14. I still assert that Argentina, Uruguay, Canada and Australia probably benefited from the importation of women as oppose to children abandoned by Spanish sailors or soldiers in Colombia or Central America.

    Many Italian women MUST have immigrated to Argentina and Uruguay at some point in history.

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