The Old “Arab Israelis Have It So Good” Argument

Malla: Well, I did some research on this and it seems the Mizrahi had a more realistic opinion about Arabs and non Whites in general, while the Ashkenazim (and maybe Sephardics), especially during the early days of Israel, had a more idealistic opinion of the Third World. But the Mizrahi themselves are non-Whites. If Arabs and non-Whites then so are Mizrahis because Mizrahis are just Arabs. Besides, many Ashkenazis came with socialistic ideas of kibbutz farming and hippieness, while the Mizrahi were more realistic.

Check this interesting video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f80NnYflDU8

Check out the Ashkenazi/Mizrahi couple at 6:52. So it seems more Mizrahi (Middle Eastern Jews) are more right wing and support predatory violent behavior towards Arabs and Palestinians, while the Ashkenazis (Euro Jews) vote more left and are friendlier to Arabs (idealistic mindset). I do not know how the Sephardics and Ethiopians Jews vote.

Besides, Israel has a massive poverty rate, one of the highest in OECD countries. No wonder they get pissed by migrants from Africa taking way their jobs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SSd0rgTc1E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPuQwFX2J2A

But Israel has an overall high standard of living. Arabs in Israel, in spite of whatever racism they face, have a higher standard of living and social freedoms than most other Arab countries. Only Tunisia and Christian-dominated Lebanon come close in social freedom, and the Gulf states are the only ones who have more income among Arabs.

This is similar to the case in Rhodesia and South Africa where the Blacks had a higher standard of living than Blacks in the rest of the African continent. Or Singapore, where the Indians and Malays have a higher standard of living than Malaysia and definitely (much, much, much) higher standard of living than India thanks to the huge Chinese population. Singapore’s quality of life is comparable to other Chinese majority developed places like Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan. One may ask that if Anglo-Celts and other Northern Euros never came to Australia would such an Australia (Australia full of only aborigines) be so developed as it is today or it would be more like Papua New Guinea.

It’s pretty bad to compare the surrounding Arabs with New Guineans and Aborigines. The whole Arab World is built up to Hell. They’re all modern countries over there. I have seen photos of Libya before the war, and it looks like Miami. I saw a recent photo of Casablanca, and it looked like LA. I have seen photos of the rest of the region, even war-torn Syria and Iraq, and they look like regular modern countries. There’s not a lot of difference between in the ordinary street scene between Amman, Beirut, Damascus or even Cairo and Tel Aviv. It all looks the same, like any modern built-up country.

There is none of the horrible poverty you see in India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Latin America or Black Africa.

Arabs will not tolerate that sort of abject shantytown type poverty. They are basically socialist people who don’t care about money too much and believe that everyone should be well taken care of. Social safety nets are ordinary things in every Arab country. There’s no debate about this sort of thing. They are not individualists. They are collectivists. And they don’t think rich people are better than poor people. They are not particularly greedy, and they have a “We are all part of one village” mindset wherever they live.

Semi-feudalism came late to the Arab World via the Ottomans, and it never worked well. There were landed gentry and fellahin, or landless peasants. Nasser was the man who confiscated the land from the land barons and gave it to the landless peasants. If you went around the whole Arab World back then, even in say Yemen, there was a portrait of Nasser on every wall. Now in Western or Latin American culture, doing that is called Communism, and everyone hates it. But the Arabs love this sort of thing.

Baath nationalist parties came in in Syria and Iraq around 1960, a revolutionary socialist state arose in Libya in 1969, and another one was birthed in Algeria in 1964. Land was confiscated from feudal latifundiaists in all of these place and distributed to the peasants. The governments were all officially socialist, secularization was enforced even at gunpoint if it took that, huge safety nets were set up, and the state even got involved in quite a few of the larger industries and became a major employer. All of this was wildly popular all over the region.

US style radical individualism and Libertarian free market capitalism is totally anathema to all of those societies. For one thing, it goes against Islam, as Islam is a socialist religion. In feudal times, large Arab landowners enlisted the help of the local imams in interpreting parts of the Koran where it said, “Some are rich, and some are poor, and that’s all just fine” or something to that effect, but it never worked well. It ended up turning the local imams into hated figures like the priests of Catholic Church in the West and Latin America who always sided with the rich against the people.

So this whole idea that the Israeli Arabs have it good for having some extra money falls flat on Arab and even Arab Israeli ears. Standard of living is not number one on their list of the most important things in life.

If the Arabs are all so jealous of Israel, why are the non-oil Arabs are not jealous of the oil Arabs? Typical Jews to reduce everything down to money. Arabs don’t care that much about money. They don’t revolve their whole lives around money or sit around hating Jews for having more skyscrapers. That’s not important to your average Arab.

I have never in my life heard one Arab tell me they were jealous of Israel.

In Palestine, White European racist fascists invaded the region, started wars with everyone around them, and, being high IQ, produced a developed economy. So what? These jerks get brownie points because they are rich? I’m supposed to love them because they’re rich and hate those Arabs because they’re poor?

The commenter is an Indian, that’s why he thinks that way. We are socialists here; we don’t think like this. Actually I think the more money someone has, the worse of a person he tends to be, but that’s just me.

All of these arguments were used by the South Africans who practiced a very similar White settler-colonial project far after this stuff went out of style.

Arabs in Israel are not happy people. They’re angry, and they have no loyalty to the state at all. The Jewish fascists say the Arabs are traitors, and the Jews are actually correct on that score. Indeed they have no loyalty to the state and do not even see themselves as Israelis.

The similarities between Israel and apartheid South Africa are striking. It’s notable that Israel was long one of South Africa’s strongest allies, and towards the end, it was one of their only allies. Arab Israelis are are institutionally treated as second class citizens in exactly the same way the Blacks were under apartheid. 

Were those Blacks happier on their South African Nigger Plantation because they had a higher standard of living? They were not, but this was the argument that was used to show that they were happy Negroes toiling away cheerfully in the sun for their beloved White slavemasters. Similarly, South Africa moved into the neighborhood and in a matter of time, like Israel, it was soon also embroiled in wars with most if not all of its neighbors. Similarly, South Africa, like Israel, had zero friends in the region.

Blacks in South Africa and Arabs in Israel don’t want money and stuff. White Gentiles and Jews only care about money, and they don’t care about humans, so they think everyone else feels that way too. But they don’t. People want to be free, even if being free means not having as much stuff. Stuff doesn’t make people happy. You can keep giving your slave the latest gadgetry in his slave quarters, but he’s still not a free man.

Same with South Africa. Hey look, these White European racist fascists came in here and built up the region and made a big economy because they have higher IQ’s! So what. I am supposed to like them more because they are rich and hate those Africans because they are poor? I realize this is Indian thinking, but we socialists do not think that way.

Arabs have more political rights in all of the Arab World. In the Arab World, they are not systematically discriminated against due to their religion or ethnicity.

I would argue that those Arabs in Israel do not want all of those social freedoms. Freedom to do what?

And what social freedoms do they have there that they do not have in the rest of the region? How are the social freedoms of Arab Israeli Christians better than those of Arab Christians in Lebanon or Syria? Someone needs to clue me.

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429 responses to “The Old “Arab Israelis Have It So Good” Argument

  1. Jason Y

    In Palestine, a bunch of White European racist fascists invaded the region, started wars with everyone around them, and, being high IQ, produced a developed economy. So what? These jerks get brownie points because they are rich? I’m supposed to love them because they’re rich and hate those Arabs because they’re poor?

    The commenter is an Indian, that’s why he thinks that way. We are socialists here, we don’t think like this. Actually I think the more money someone, has the worse of a person he tends to be, but that’s just me.

    All of these arguments were used by the South African assholes who practiced a very similar White settler-colonial project far after this stuff went out of style.

    In WN circles everything is about superiority and IQ, much as it would be with money worshipping multicultural elites in the US. Well, in the 2nd case, race wouldn’t mean that much, but it’s still a mindset based on superiority, just race isn’t brought up.

    Note, the whole thing is South Africa and also in the Jim Crow south (The old “The blacks were savages in Africa and we did them a favor by making them slaves.”) is money makes people better, richer and middle-class people are better.

    Anyhow, even with blacks in the US, not counting the materialistic rappers and whatnot, money isn’t viewed as important and there is a massive collectivist spirit not seen as strongly among whites. Possibly the cause the blacks figure they’ll have any middle-class money anyway so it’s a waste time to think about it. So you don’t see as many wanting the picket-fenced house down the street, and selling their soul to buy it as these really nutty, fruity white yuppies do.

    • Jason Y

      Sorry meant to say

      “Possibly cause the blacks figure they’ll never have any middle-class money anyway so it’s a waste time to think about it. So you don’t see as many wanting the picket-fenced house down the street, and selling their soul to buy it as these really nutty, fruity white yuppies do.”

    • “Anyhow, even with blacks in the US, not counting the materialistic rappers and whatnot, money isn’t viewed as important and there is a massive collectivist spirit not seen as strongly among whites. ”

      Uuummm, proof? This is the first time I’ve every heard you claim such.

      • Jason Y

        OK, then where is Robert’s proof about the Middle East and South Africa? I don’t see any sources, just claims. No offense to Robert, but your not holding Robert to the same standards.

        • Then you must have missed this part on Robert’s history lesson,

          “Semi-feudalism came late to the Arab World via the Ottomans, and it never worked well. There were landed gentry and fellahin, or peasants. Nasser was the man who confiscated the land from the land barons. If you went around the whole Arab World back then, even in say Yemen, there would be a portrait of Nasser on every wall. Now in Western or Latin American culture, doing that is called Communism and everyone hates it. But the Arabs love this sort of thing.

          Baath nationalist parties came in in Syria and Iraq around 1960, a socialist state arose in Libya in 1969, and a revolutionary socialist state was birthed in Algeria in 1964. Land was confiscated from feudal latifundistists in all of these place and distributed to the peasants. The governments were all officially socialist, secularization was enforced even at gunpoint if it took that, huge safety nets were set up, and the state even got involved in quite a few of the larger industries and became a major employer. All of this was wildly popular all over the region.

          US style radical individualism and Libertarian free market capitalism is totally anathema to all of those societies. For one thing, it goes against Islam, as Islam is a pretty socialist religion. In feudal times, large Arab landowners enlisted the help of the local imams in interpreting parts of the Koran where it said, “Some are rich, and some are poor, and that’s all just fine” or something to that effect, but it never worked well, and it ended up turning the local imams into hated figures like the priests of Catholic Church in the West and Latin America who always sided with the rich against the people.”

          You didn’t even elaborate in detail as he did, you pretty much just regurgitated what you’ve seemed to have read for the first time.

          Given how you used inbreeding since you first heard of it in HBD context and other cases like Maternal IQ months back you give me good reason to suspect this kind of weak utility of ideas.

        • Jason Y

          Perhaps inbreeding is irrelevant. Anyhow, no, they shouldn’t inbreed, but maybe those with high IQs should be so arrogant. One is as bad as the other in a certain sense.

        • Jason Y

          Certain Jews are simply the master race that WNs want to be like. Nonetheless, there are major problems with an obsession with superiority and of course, superiority isn’t eternal life, and the human lifespan isn’t even that long.

        • “Perhaps inbreeding is irrelevant.”

          That’s not what I was getting at, my point was how you used topic like that where it was your hammer, and since you you only had that hammer, every situation looked like nails.

          “Anyhow, no, they shouldn’t inbreed, but maybe those with high IQs should be so arrogant. One is as bad as the other in a certain sense.”

          In the context of Israel that kind of hard to distinguish as Jews are inbreed, it’s just that the simultaneously selected for IQ.

          And again you are confused as I’m talking about how you used the ideas, not which group was wrong based on those ideas as criteria.

          “Certain Jews are simply the master race that WNs want to be like.”

          That depends on how you define WN.

          “Nonetheless, there are major problems with an obsession with superiority and of course, superiority isn’t eternal life, and the human lifespan isn’t even that long.”

          Okay, first of all, what does lifespan even have to do in the context of a perceived superior group as a value? The point is the persistence if the status the group holds.

          Also, if it was relevant, then it would be expected that the superior group would have a longer lifespan compared to others.

        • Jason Y

          Okay, first of all, what does lifespan even have to do in the context of a perceived superior group as a value? The point is the persistence if the status the group holds.

          Also, if it was relevant, then it would be expected that the superior group would have a longer lifespan compared to others.

          A short lifespan means the money or superiority gained in this world is short-lived. In fact, as I noted, even a long lifespan isn’t a lot of time to enjoy advantages.

        • “A short lifespan means the money or superiority gained in this world is short-lived. In fact, as I noted, even a long lifespan isn’t a lot of time to enjoy advantages.”

          And I can flip that saying if life doesn’t have enough resources to maintain a happy lifestyle, what’s the point for it to be long?

          The length of it’s duration is based on a certain point, a natural limit in people, that is used to determined how much it “enough”. “Superior people” automatically have better potential to reach that point and the “inferior: would likely have shorter lives.

          Your logic would only apply if humans expect themselves to be immortal or lack the perspective that having a long life would be meaningless without actual value to it.

      • Mike

        When white nationalist pseudoscience can be linked as proof anything under the sun can be linked as proof and everybody is entitled to their opinions

    • Sword of TrutH

      There’s a documentary where a Klansman talks about his black Mammy with love and affection. How many money worshipping elites have such intimacy with races outside of their private school, gated community, ect.?

      • Jason Y

        Sorry such sentimental stuff won’t cut it. Robert made it clear South Africa, the south USA. Israel are oppressive regimes despite the close bonds it sometimes made. Actually, how many close bonds existed as you mentioned in comparison to the remote and oppressive ones. Can neo-Confederates answer that? If it was true all blacks were house negroes than Robert has no argument in this post.

        • Sword of TrutH

          I was referring to modern times. Israeli oppression is still going on today.

        • Jason Y

          So you’re saying blacks are not oppressed in the post-Jim Crow era? What is Ferguson about or Black Lives Matter?

        • To Jason, see Robert’s opinions on such matters regarding “unarmed black victims”. With that noted That doesn’t compare to the by and large oppression of Palestinians and conflict with neighbors.

        • Sword of TrutH

          Sorry such sentimental stuff won’t cut it. 93% of black homicide victims were killed by blacks according to the 2010 Bureau of Justice Statistics.

        • Jason Y

          Israelis see Palestinians the way WNs and others see blacks, as terrorists and criminals, in other words, violent.

          But they are violent because they don’t want improvement under the rule of condescending whites (Jews) who are richer and have a higher IQ. That’s called “Working in a plantation.” and Robert explained that’s an insult to their pride and freedom.

          Also, WNs bring up black homicide but don’t try to factor in the causes of the homicide, one being massive dysfunction caused, again, by blacks living in a condescending world where shots are called by condescending whites.

        • “Also, WNs bring up black homicide but don’t try to factor in the causes of the homicide, one being massive dysfunction caused, again, by blacks living in a condescending world where shots are called by condescending whites.”

          Then Explain pretty much every other Black Country that current has little influence by whites as you claim with ones in America. Colonialism? All right, well in that case that indicates that even after a police state is removed they will persist to act like that and would require more interference from the outside to help. Don’t see something a little wrong with that picture, that alleged environmental behavior that alleged environmental leaves them with so little agency when the stimulus is removed?

          Nice try Jason.

    • Barack Thatcher

      “In WN circles everything is about superiority and IQ”

      To an extent. Now a-days they seem to be obsessed with ‘being allowed to so compassion for their poor White familia’. Now, I think it is attempting to further hitch a ride on “populism”, as they are being rejected by Donald, Marine, etc. I do think it’s an act, but to an extent it may not be.

      “g (general intelligence) is a population wide phenomena”.
      1. It’s not true.
      2. Fash af.

      but this is what they believe.

      • Barack Thatcher

        Now, I do hate to potentially lend help to WNs, but
        IT’S THE CRIME STUPID” should be their motto.

        ‘your average White or Asian’ doesn’t care about only 1/6 of Blacks being as smart as your average White in and of itself. But they DO care greatly at Blacks committing 6x the crime as Whites and 10x of Asians.

        • BARACK

          They should study the Latin systems that Andalusian and Gallegos and Basque manage to keep some order with in Central and South America.

          Spanish have CONTINUED TO RUN THINGS in Latin America and survived even though Indios, Zambizos, Castizos, Mulatto outnumber them.

          They must be doing something right.

      • Jason Y

        Well, I think everyone has a conscience. That’s why some WNs have to break down occasionally with some teary-eyed BS about nursing on a black mammy as a baby. Of course, now it’s about showing compassion for poor white people, at the expense of being a dick about non-white poor people of course.

        Note the same crap that makes NAMS poor, also makes whites poor, but the NAMS are created their own poverty, but the poor whites haven’t. But how can you explain that logically? You cannot. It’s just family bias.

        It’s like saying your mean, bullying son is a good kid while the neighborhood asshole is indeed a menace to society.

        • ESCAPING POVERTY

          1 You have to move from a poor area when you are under 30.

          You cannot be married or have kids.
          You have have a trade or a degree.
          You have to have rent and a ticket.
          It is better to be male.

          WHY NAMS AND POOR WHITES DON’T GET OUT

          Their brain is adrift on drugs by 17.
          They barely graduate high school. Or GED.
          They have kids at 18-23.
          They have no money for rent or a ticket.
          They have criminal records.

          Poverty is hard to escape and easily worse if you are stupid.

        • Jason Y

          ESCAPING POVERTY

          1 You have to move from a poor area when you are under 30.

          You cannot be married or have kids.
          You have have a trade or a degree.
          You have to have rent and a ticket.
          It is better to be male.

          WHY NAMS AND POOR WHITES DON’T GET OUT

          Their brain is adrift on drugs by 17.
          They barely graduate high school. Or GED.
          They have kids at 18-23.
          They have no money for rent or a ticket.
          They have criminal records.

          Poverty is hard to escape and easily worse if you are stupid.

          And the poor aren’t already aware of that fact? So moving past this idea, what can be done to help the poor, aside from putting them in a right-wing super environment (in other words, degrading slavery to the rich and middle class)? Maybe WNs would suggest eugenics or outright murder? How about just getting rid of the whole Arab population instead of praising their socialism as Robert is doing? In fact, talk show host Michael Savage actually even suggested that idea.

        • Barack Thatcher

          “Well, I think everyone has a conscience. That’s why some WNs have to break down occasionally with some teary-eyed BS about nursing on a black mammy as a baby. Of course, now it’s about showing compassion for poor white people, at the expense of being a dick about non-white poor people of course.
          Note the same crap that makes NAMS poor, also makes whites poor, but the NAMS are created their own poverty, but the poor whites haven’t. But how can you explain that logically? You cannot. It’s just family bias.
          It’s like saying your mean, bullying son is a good kid while the neighborhood asshole is indeed a menace to society.”

          I agree, but if you read between the lines you can see the same is true of neoliberals.
          Now, why has Neoliberalism been a dominant political force while White Nationalism is a joke?

          Neoliberals have IQs of 105 and can cloak the ridiculous parts of their ideology. Podunk WNs with IQs of 90 CAN NOT.

        • Barack Thatcher

          neoliberals are the inverse; reverse NAMs and poor Whites I mean.

        • Jason Y

          Ridiculous parts of trendy anti-racist ideology, if that’s what you mean, are irrelevant.

          WNs want to use their ideology to emphasize that NAMS should be kissing their ass with gratitude for putting them (NAMS) on a nigger plantation. It’s the whole fire which fuels commentators like EP-GAH who is always referring to whites as “their betters”.

          Note, no NAMS will ever suddenly repent of so-called ingratitude. Never have and never will. But who can blame them?

        • Jason Y

          Also most poor whites don’t benefit from WN ideology as arguments used to justify eugenics against NAMS could also be just as easily used against them.

          Finally, going back to NAMS, as Robert explained, NAMS don’t give a shit about this alpha male, libertarian, social Darwinist stuff that WNs believe in. So like with the Arab world, whether we see Republican or democrat globalists or WNs, complaining that Arabs are lazy NAM parasites, we see that the Arabs themselves don’t care. Possibly, like with Bin Laden, they view the so-called infidels with equal hate and disgust.

        • Jason Y

          It’s funny when ep-gah or some other WN commentator mentions “WNs are tired of helping out NAMS so we have stopped and decided that separation is best.”

          Well, of course. It’s because condescending WN racist thinking and also the condescending American Way thing of individualism hits a brick wall in the middle east and in most parts of the world.

        • Jason Y

          Actually, a lot of NAMS are unreasonable people who are abusive. Nonetheless, the fact remains that WNs, American individualists etc cannot connect with much of the world’s population.

        • Barack Thatcher

          “Also most poor whites don’t benefit from WN ideology as arguments used to justify eugenics against NAMS could also be just as easily used against them.”
          indeed.
          There’s a term for this; Useful Idiots!

  2. Jason Y

    I’ve always wondered about these white suburban yuppies, though. Well, I do know possibly their seemingly selfish lifestyle might provide jobs. Other than that, I don’t see any good in it. Do they produce enough jobs for everyone else to avoid playing the role of Marie Antoinette of America ??

    Note, what I say sounds like jealousy, but it actually isn’t. I just see most of these people as idolaters. It’s sort of like people who build gold buildings while people starve and then possibly these middle-class people would bitch and say the poor are lazy or they could be like them and have gold buildings.

    • Jason Y

      Though it sounds over-sentimental and corny, another big reason why middle-class yuppie lifestyle is pointless is because people don’t live long enough to enjoy it. The human lifespan only lasts on average about 80 years in the US.

      • “The human lifespan only lasts on average about 80 years in the US.”

        That would be taking in account of other major lifestyles as well, not controlling for SES.

        • Jason Y

          Right, some die when they are 40 and some at 100 or later. But even at 100, I still feel the American Dream is a type of illusion and idol, and its pursual is a waste of time for most people.

      • JASON Y I think Yuppies enjoy their lifestyle for longer than poor whites.

        • Jason Y

          Well, yeah, of course, but does it justify a life of idolatry? 80 years is less than you think as that Pink Floyd song Time was saying.

    • “Well, I do know possibly their seemingly selfish lifestyle might provide jobs. Other than that, I don’t see any good in it. Do they produce enough jobs for everyone else to avoid playing the role of Marie Antoinette of America ??”

      You know, it’s funny how you bring this up after going on about the Southern Elite, seeing how the type you are talking about are more common among modern alleged leftists than the South.

      Hell, that pretty much characterizes the North from the perspective of Southern Nationalists.

      • Jason Y

        No, not really. Plenty of middle-class peckerwoods sit around and bitch about parasitic NAMS. Why do you think the southern elitists all vote Republican? How would the southern middle-class be different than the middle-class that existed in South Africa?

        And yes, a lot of yuppies in the north worship the American dream, and may even be Republican, but probably they aren’t as racist, at least not in the southern sense. Also, a lot of democrat liberals are suburban yuppies, who aren’t racist but well, still act somewhat like money and home obsessed elitists.

        • “No, not really. Plenty of middle-class peckerwoods sit around and bitch about parasitic NAMS. Why do you think the southern elitists all vote Republican? How would the southern middle-class be different than the middle-class that existed in South Africa?”

          Lets read what you said again, “I’ve always wondered about these white suburban yuppies, though. ”

          And take a look about Yuppies on the left, these types barely being any different but are less honest on how they really feel and try to go along with “progressiveness” by societies definition despite many living in rather universe neighborhoods.

          And given the North’s head start in Urbanization and economic development, for a good while types like these existed in greater numbers for longer periods of time.

          “And yes, a lot of yuppies in the north worship the American dream, and may even be Republican, but probably they aren’t as racist, at least not in the southern sense. Also, a lot of democrat liberals are suburban yuppies, who aren’t racist but well, still act somewhat like money and home obsessed elitists.”

          And all you are pointing at is a quality difference on the surface, I’m talking about the general yuppie deficits in social and economics and how they would exist in greater numbers are higher in the North.

        • Jason Y

          Your making all this stuff too complex. What Robert is saying is that certain groups, whether they be South African whites, libertarians, middle-class southern USA whites, Northern USA republicans, or “out of the closet” white supremacists, are convinced that being superior is the goal of human existence and those not measuring up are committing some grave sin and/or have some handicap.

        • “Your making all this stuff too complex. What Robert is saying is that certain groups, whether they be South African whites, libertarians, middle-class southern USA whites, Northern USA republicans, or “out of the closet” white supremacists, are convinced that being superior is the goal of human existence and those not measuring up are committing some grave sin and/or have some handicap.”

          Except I’m not arguing with what Robert is Saying, I’m referring to a specific detail regarding Yuppie luxury. You are merely talking about the social darwinist aspect of these groups.

        • Jason Y

          Lets read what you said again, “I’ve always wondered about these white suburban yuppies, though. ”

          And take a look about Yuppies on the left, these types barely being any different but are less honest on how they really feel and try to go along with “progressiveness” by societies definition despite many living in rather universe neighborhoods.

          It doesn’t matter how they really feel. This isn’t some poetry class. No, we’re interested in what voting decisions they are making. Are these decisions helping the progressive cause or not?

          Yeah, I’m sure in some ways a few white southerners had closer bonds with blacks than some white liberal yuppie in suburbia. Nonetheless, looking at the whole ball game, white southerners are not supporting progressive politics that help NAMS, despite the Klansman who nursed on his black mammy as a toddler. 😆 (from Sword of Truth’s comment on this post)

        • “It doesn’t matter how they really feel. This isn’t some poetry class. No, we’re interested in what voting decisions they are making. Are these decisions helping the progressive cause or not?”

          See my point on how I was talking about your point on Job generation. My point on their form of “leftism” on a social level is pseudo.

          Their votes? Voting is far from the only medium of influence, their hypocrisy with social relations with races as well as white guilt promotion is devastating to an actual leftist cause.

          “Yeah, I’m sure in some ways a few white southerners had closer bonds with blacks than some white liberal yuppie in suburbia. Nonetheless, looking at the whole ball game, white southerners are not supporting progressive politics that help NAMS, despite the Klansman who nursed on his black mammy as a toddler. 😆 (from Sword of Truth’s comment on this post)”

          White Southerners or white elites, occasionally you seem to have trouble distinguishing the two.

          Anyways, I’m not talking about who loves NAMS more, I’m talking about integrity deficit lacking in Yuppies as you call them.

          Helping NAMS? Okay, who is helping them? Robert had recently typed multiple articles on how the Left is pretty much against them.

        • Jason Y

          Their votes? Voting is far from the only medium of influence, their hypocrisy with social relations with races as well as white guilt promotion is devastating to an actual leftist cause.

          The opposite of white guilt is people like ep-gah claiming that NAMS should be grateful for the fact whites built whatever civilization they enjoy. Robert has dismissed such thinking in this post as arrogant and besides the point, as many NAMS, like some whites, don’t care about money.

        • “The opposite of white guilt is people like ep-gah claiming that NAMS should be grateful for the fact whites built whatever civilization they enjoy. Robert has dismissed such thinking in this post as arrogant and besides the point, as many NAMS, like some whites, don’t care about money.”

          I see it as being less about money with NAMS in general, robert speaking specifically about Arabs in that case, and more on the focus of abuse.

          Technically a better opposite would be one Robert actually agrees with that NAMS shouldn’t complain about the society the live in NOW under whites, as Chinese for wouldn’t exactly bend over backwards as Whites do know.

          Hell, for instance, Blacks under Blacks typically don’t receive such mobility.

        • To Jason,

          I meant to add South African blacks as well with Arabs.

        • Jason Y

          I see it as being less about money with NAMS in general, robert speaking specifically about Arabs in that case, and more on the focus of abuse.

          Sorry to sound like a smartass here, but, REALLY ???

          Of course, the money situation of NAMS in Israel, South Africa etc.. IS abuse. That’s what Robert is saying. Note, there are advantages to living in the slave quarters, but overall, it’s abuse because there is no freedom and tons of blows to one’s pride.

        • Jason Y

          I mean a woman can become a hooker and get herself out of poverty and rich probably very quick, but only a minority of them choose to do it.

        • “Sorry to sound like a smartass here, but, REALLY ???

          Of course, the money situation of NAMS in Israel, South Africa etc.. IS abuse. That’s what Robert is saying. Note, there are advantages to living in the slave quarters, but overall, it’s abuse because there is no freedom and tons of blows to one’s pride.”

          My point IS that the abuse doesn’t compensate for money, I tried to clarified that as you seemed to have phrased as a a cultural trait of not caring for money as whites do characterized by Arab socialism which btw you haven’t proved to apply to blacks as well.

          “I mean a woman can become a hooker and get herself out of poverty and rich probably very quick, but only a minority of them choose to do it.”

          I’m not even seeing where you are going with this looking at my original quote you used.

        • Jason Y

          My point IS that the abuse doesn’t compensate for money,

          Well, yeah, of course. What do YOU consider abuse?

        • “Well, yeah, of course. What do YOU consider abuse?”

          How is that required? Considering I use that to refer to both Israel and South Africa mentioned in the article then you should already have a good idea of what my standards for abuse are.

        • JASON Y

          It’s easy for the upper-class and middle-class (Especially the young single college-educated like I was when I blew the States) to vanish.

          Democratic liberals are not townies anyhow who cry if the home team loses and lived on one street their whole life and often moved frequently as children as their parents had in-demand jobs. Born in Boston, raised in Detroit, moved to LA at the age 12.

          Hipsters are often drifters.

          Money and home-focused elitists will sell it in a hot minute if the property value goes down, often at a loss. South of France is as nice as Chicago or Houston, so they are gone.

          Only the working-class and service sector types who had kids at 22, mortgaged a house young and depend upon the local economy for a living wage are attached to one place.

          Guess what…Liberals don’t give a shit about them anyhow.

        • Jason Y

          How is that required? Considering I use that to refer to both Israel and South Africa mentioned in the article then you should already have a good idea of what my standards for abuse are.

          And what are they?? (sarcasm)

        • Jason Y

          JASON Y

          It’s easy for the upper-class and middle-class (Especially the young single college-educated like I was when I blew the States) to vanish.

          Democratic liberals are not townies anyhow who cry if the home team loses and lived on one street their whole life and often moved frequently as children as their parents had in-demand jobs. Born in Boston, raised in Detroit, moved to LA at the age 12.

          Hipsters are often drifters.

          Money and home-focused elitists will sell it in a hot minute if the property value goes down, often at a loss. South of France is as nice as Chicago or Houston, so they are gone.

          Only the working-class and service sector types who had kids at 22, mortgaged a house young and depend upon the local economy for a living wage are attached to one place.

          Guess what…Liberals don’t give a shit about them anyhow.

          Right wing or left wing, the homebodies are all the same. OK, so the lefty hipsters will sell property constantly. So what? The bottom line though is that often they are materialistic and look down on those are forced to rent like the Republican convinced his Protestant work ethic makes him superior.

        • Jason Y

          The left or right wing “Home and Garden TV” fans think renting is for teenagers and adult losers. They’re obsessed with home ownership as a status symbol.

        • Jason Y

          Phil is trying to run things in circles simply to always disagree with me. How many times around the merry-go-round has this dumb argument existed about NAM abuse on the “condescending rich white or Jewish plantation”? We have basically both said the same thing, but he still contends he’s saying something different.

          Yes, NAMS are abused on these racist super-environments and the money won’t pay for the hurt pride, dignity, loss of freedom, and other things. It’s much like some situation with overparenting and Yuppies.

        • “Phil is trying to run things in circles simply to always disagree with me. How many times around the merry-go-round has this dumb argument existed about NAM abuse on the “condescending rich white or Jewish plantation”? We have basically both said the same thing, but he still contends he’s saying something different.”

          My point was you Isolating a certain aspect of yuppie behavior to “Southern Elite” and I corrected you.

          This then transitioned to you bringing up white guilt and it’s opposite, saying NAMS don’t care about money. I gave a better example of an equivalent, explain that Robert didn’t say NAMs in general didn’t care about money in the same way he explained the socialist nature of Arabs, but rather they didn’t hold money OVER abuse.

          You agreed with me on that last not and pestered me on what I considered abuse.

          Then you said the money situation was abuse in of itself which isn’t what Robert said, he said that it was irrelevant.

          So no, we not saying the same thing. BTW, I find it funny how you ignoring the way you were DEFENDING Israel a few days ago.

          “Yes, NAMS are abused on these racist super-environments and the money won’t pay for the hurt pride, dignity, loss of freedom, and other things. It’s much like some situation with overparenting and Yuppies.”

          So you are pretty much going with that shit PC explanation? First of all, define “NAMS” and their specific chronological and geographical setting because I would confuse Israel-Palestinian relations with US white-NAMs relations in the modern day, which you indicate with “are”.

          Robert pretty much said in the past that doesn’t explain the current lack of success of NAMS in America, nor the current state of relations. He contends that there are still racist whites with political motivations, but that’s different.

        • *I meant to say “I wouldn’t confise different White-NAM relations..”

      • “And what are they?? (sarcasm)”

        Sarcasm fail, I’ve basically explained that.

    • JASON Y Physical migration speaks more than words.

      White liberals who parents were Jews or Whites from factory towns back east might decry the post-industrialist state of Detroit or Pittsburgh but they got the hell out and nothing would make them move back.

      “White Flight” from Northern cities speaks more than a few words of sadness about NAMS left behind.

      NAMS are left behind because they lack the skills, education and MONEY to move.

      • Jason Y

        Just because someone feels sad for Detroit doesn’t mean he/she is stupid enough to move there out of some solidarity with the oppressed.

        • Jason Y

          It sort of reminds me of that dumb “Love it or leave it” slogan by rednecks.

        • JASON Y …And you have now summed up how the Yuppie lawyer or CPA feel about the 43 year old dishwasher or McDonald’s employee.

          “It’s real sad you did not see how squalid your life would be at 14 when you were being “John Bender from BREAKFAST CLUB” in class and smoking dope in the school library”.

          “Even sadder that you graduated to meth, wracked up a few adult charges for property theft or possession with some intent, went to jail for 6 months etc.”

          “You have no understanding of the market and the bubbles that white-collar people who work in banks or real-estate shove on you that keeps your wage at $8 when that barely buys bubble gum”

          But….the Yuppie is not going to be able to do much.

          And if he did give the poor person 40,000….it would be gone in 6 months.”

          So what to do, really?

        • …And I doubt the Yuppie on his way to Hawaii will hand over his tickets and money to the poor woman in the Airport lounge to work her shifts either.

          Physical action speaks, words deceive.

    • JASON Y MARIA ANTOINETTE

      Selfish yuppies.

      Most poor people are like BREAKFAST CLUB’S John Bender in school. They are drugging at 13-14, sometimes get hooked by 16 and do not wake up to the harsh realities of their life until 22 (“Go visit John Bender in 5 years” says the crazed Yuppie principal and later says “you’ll be wrapped up in your own pathetic life” which is also of course true).

      NB They also commit petty crime in their teens and make people fairly miserable.

      Yuppies are selfish enough to buy rubbers. Usually they beat off to Dad’s porn stash until 17 or 18 when they are practicing birth control. The poor are f*cking their heads off (Esp. girls) and have a kid at 21 with no consideration for consequences.
      Yuppies don’t expect society to be able to do much for you. They work in law, finance, banks, credit and know full well the money is not in the public funds.
      Yuppies from small towns are planning to get out. They know at 18 when they leave for college or the military that this all she wrote…their town is behind them because industrial base is long-gone.
      Yuppies don’t marry at 20 thinking there is some happy ending. They marry at 30.

      YUPPIES are supposed to care that “John Bender” indeed grows up to be wrapped up in a pathetic life and his kids have a pathetic life?

      • Jason Y

        We all know Yuppies have got it together, just like the white elite class did in Haiti, and all the poor trash of any race should be ashamed because they wasted away their life, unlike the Yuppies.

        Again, more condescending crap, and as Robert said, “Poor people don’t like being slaves to condescending “betters” as ep-gah called them.” “OK, no shit, your better than I am, as I serving your Big Mac and Fries while you’re on the way to a skiing trip.” :lol;

        • JASON Y What should the Yuppie do?

          Put the rubber on the poor person’s penis when they are 18-21 to make sure they do not conceive a child recklessly.

          Cock Block them if they are intending to have children at 22? Lie between?

          Prevent the meth pipe from reaching the lips of the 14 or 15 year old?

          Apart from waging working wages (Which should be implemented) how exactly is this accomplished?

        • GUIDANCE COUNSELOR ADVICE

          Show the Happy College Graduates on their way to Hawaii while “John Bender” serves fries and looks exhausted.

          NOW THAT would certainly get a few more poor young people from dropping out of high school.

        • HAITI vs. HICKSVILLE

          Poor Africans were torn from some civilization where they presumably were satisfied with their society and standard of living at gunpoint.

          Poor whites were not dragged into an alien civilization. They were born into European or Euro-settler societies with European parents-or grandparents. Over 10 generations they manage to learn nothing. Their great-great-grandfather was a loser, vagrant or criminal in Scotland whose wife was a beggar or prostitute. Even the New Start in the U.S. helped little-unlike Australia where whites who’d been in jail managed to build a new and prosperous country.

          Poor whites were drugging at 14, making life a nightmare for principals and juvenile officers and parents (Usually one parent. They left school with no qualifications (I can relate I have a lousy Journalism degree with a minor in Economics).

          As adults there was divorce, drink, drugs and children at a young age while the yuppie graduated college by beating off in his dorm toilet instead of having children.

          Poor Africans were not subjected to this.

        • JASON The Yuppies did not drag Poor Whites from an alien society across the world into their own society to work free at gunpoint.

          Poor whites are born into the same civilization.

          How to help them when they are 42 years old, have 3 kids by 3 different sex partners, did drugs for 30 years since that first joint at 12 back in 86, wracked up a series of petty convictions, left high school back in 1990 at age 16 without any qualification…

          Well, you could raise the wage a little bit.

        • JASON

          When I walked past men my age in the airport working in concessions I though how sad it is to see people traveling to interesting and profitable destinations while you will always go home at night to the same threadbare apartment or house and watch television.

        • JASON Y BREAKFAST CLUB SCENARIO What if “Claire HAD married JOHN BENDER”

          Claire throws over college and gets pregnant at 19 by John Bender when he is 20.

          Her parents do not like him much. They stop giving her money. She is stuck in Section 8 housing with an infant to raise on Aid to Dependent Children.

          John gets a minimum wage job but it does not cover the bills and he spends the money drinking.

          John tries crystal meth for the first time at age 19 and is instantly addicted.

          John leaves his wife and Claire has to work full-time while their child is raised by her weary and pissed-off 46 year old parents.

          John begins to sell weed to high school students to support his meth addiction. He is busted again and again.

          John also commits other petty crimes.

          John goes to jail. NAMS inside prove even tougher than Andy the Jock and take his junk food. One NAM wants to screw John’s butthole. John joins a White Power gang, gets tattoos and cuts his hair.

          John finally quits meth at 35. He looks 60 years old. His daughter is a teenager. He has no money for birthday presents.

          THE END

  3. Jason Y

    Were those Blacks happier on their South African Nigger Plantation because they had a higher standard of living? They were not, but this was the argument that was used to show that they were happy Negroes toiling away cheerfully in the sun for their beloved White slavemasters.

    That’s a common argument on Stormfront, heard nearly every day. Oh, those NAMS should be so grateful that whites built a civilization for them !! Yet at the same time, unless the white working class is profiting from the NAMS, they want them to get the hell out of their civilization.

    • JASON Y RUBBISH, WHITES LEAVE NAM CIVILIZATIONS WHEN THEY HAVE PROFITED.

      WHITE ENGINEERS AND FOREMAN AND AD EXECS in Flint or Detroit got the hell out of the cities (Along with Jews owning Pawn stores etc) and moved to the suburbs, exurbs or out-of-state.

      It is the NAMS and the poor whites who are left behind in crumbling ruins while the White who saved his money then purchases a house in Arizona.

      Ethnic whites who came to the Northern Cities of the U.S. and profited from the NAM labor in factories BOLTED when this industry collapsed.

    • “Only a minority choose to” is nonsense: 7/10 Filipino women will sell. I don’t blame them The rest are trying to marry a foreigner via Internet mail order bride services.

      Unless horribly ugly or crazy a woman under 40 can latch on to some male and blow town.

      Even in small-town America the best-looking women leave for cities or states which are more prosperous.

      Because a woman can lie down for 30 minutes and get what she wants.

    • JASON Y How many Filipino men are in the U.S. as oppose to women. A male has an anus and unless he is gay he cannot get out and even if he is gay he has to find a limited demand.

      Every Filipino female wants out and tries for a foreigner male.

      Unless she is Chinese or Spanish-Mestizo and you will see few of these with a white and none with some old white retired postal worker from Germany.

      Women can lie down to get what they want.

    • Jason Y

      What I mean is the case of Haiti where WNs praise the French for making such a good use of the slaves, and then point out that once freed (from revolution) they turned it into a hellhole.

      Also, the slaves of the antebellum south made the south USA and America rich, but later became a huge drain on the economy, prisons etc..

      • Jason Y

        Then the ultimate BS irony comes when David Duke blames Jews, though a video by William Pierce praises the French and their slavery in Haiti.

        • If a meteor crashed into Duke’s house he would blame them, so what?

        • Sword of TrutH

          As opposed to blaming poor flyovers or bullies that would call a White person a nigger…
          Here’s the video Jason is referring to:

        • Jason Y

          OK, that’s the video I watched. Well, again more pompous, arrogant WN propaganda, which ignores the fact, as Robert stated, that blacks want freedom, not slavery in more stable and advanced society that is also condescending and oppressive.

    • JASON Y WHERE THEY WERE MOST UNHAPPY

      When they migrated North among indifferent Italian and Jewish and Slavic immigrants who knew nothing of their history and did not care they were most unhappy.

      Unlike the Southern White who has a long relationship with them the Northern Jew who owns the pawnshop or is a cop does not care a solitary shit about their life at all.

      In some ways this is worse than the cracker.

      • Jason Y

        Sorry, don’t buy it. Remember Robert’s words, “They were not happy on the nigger plantation.” That’s what South African whites and Southern USA whites built for them, and yes, both groups seemed “concerned” about blacks to some degree, though in a very arrogant and condescending fashion. Blacks want to be free and they’re free somewhat up north cause the people up there, though ignoring them, are not trying to enslave them

        • Jason Y

          The southern and South African concern for blacks sort of reminds of me of aspects of political correctness, ironically.

          Note, now the health police abound telling people how to live, overparenting children, and all sorts of other insults to human liberty. So it’s sort of the same idea. These certain whites were concerned somewhat about blacks, though often for selfish reasons, so they constructed a world which severely limited their freedom and smashed their pride and human dignity.

          It’s kind of like what we saw on that movie “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.

      • Jason Y

        Possibly blacks are most happy where they are among their own people and perhaps also among certain allies from other races. They don’t need south USA and South African crackers, especially, and they don’t Northern Jews and Slavs.

  4. Sunni is the natural outcome of capitalism not socialism — because White man elites plan that. It is not true that Arab is socialist, especially Sunni Arabs.

    Sunni tolerate huge wealth disparity far more than the rest. The Sheikh and Sultan steal all their wealth, and fuck all their women, meanwhile telling Arab women to hijab.

    Meanwhile Sunni keep quiet no matter how much their Sheikh abuse them. But when Christian give them free food free healthcare free monies free school free house, they want to kill Christian more.

    Basically Sunni are son of Satan, world super moron, champion crackpot.

    • Were you beaten on by Sunni Muslims as a child? You use “they” as if each and every Sunni is a crazed extremist lusting after the blood of of infidels. The followers of ibn Wahhab maybe and the extremist terrorist groups fighting for what amounts to a Wahhabi theocracy like Saudi Arabia but there are, what, 1.5-2 billion Muslims in the world of which 85% are Sunni? If “they” all bought into AQ/ISIS stye Wahhabi on steroids groupthink in a big way they would be making life very unpleasant for many non-Muslims around the world.

      Anyone who thinks that Muslims all think alike and are united in a fanatical hatred of the west and Christianity has not met many Muslims or researched Islam very thoroughly, if at all.

      • Brian Damage

        They are alike. Since the 1970s. Pretty much most of the Sunni Muslim world are Wahhabi based. They are ” making life very unpleasant for many non-Muslims around the world.” Even secular Turkey now is sucumbing to Wahhabism. The last true secular muslim majority state.

        • Noni

          This is the ideal form of Islam Mohammed envisioned. This was how medieval Islamic countries were minus the modern weaponry

    • Everyone know Sunni Moron and their Jewish pimp keep repeating lies 0.01% Muslim bad and 99.99 Muslims good, but in reality, for example in Malaysia, appalling 62% of them keep thinking of murder.

      If you love Sunni I advise you go down their neighborhood and preach “love the Jews”. See if you still love them when they cut your penis, cook it, before putting a few bullets up your ass.

      Also at the same time, bring your daughter there and offer her as sex slave. Even then I doubt Sunni will stop hating you.

      Please love them. haha

      • BURMA is the result of this Chinese regard for Islam that you just expressed. We are going to see a great deal more conflict in Myanmar and Singapore between Chinese and Muslims, sadly.

        We’ve seen a few riots already, but it will get far worse.

    • CREADERS You’ve never spent a day in Dubai or Abu Dhabi or you would know this is not the case.

      Gotta say the roads have less potholes and the buildings free for Arab poor look nicer than the country parts of China under your Centrally Planned government.

      Communism is supposed to be the Great Equalizer but Interior China did not get 1/10 the wealth of the Eastern Coast.

  5. Emphasizing that “white European fascists” came and stole the Palestinian’s and South African’s land and then going out of the way to point out that, because they [ostensibly] had a “higher IQ” and built an advanced state (you used a different term but I can’t recall it atm)…well, that makes it sound like you’re trying to emphasize, for whatever reason, the “higher IQ” point and not seem like an asshole while doing it.

    Why? It does sound like a WN trope and even if it is true (although I have seen no evidence that this is the case) it makes no difference. If Europeans had not gone around the world ripping people’s land and commiting genocide they wouldn’t have to worry about justifying the subjugation of pissd off “backwards” people they deem inferior and despise because they don’t look at the world through a European lense.

    • Other than Europe, Sunni Arab is guilty of imperialism, but no one take them to task, and Sunni forever claim victim.

      How do you think a bunch of moron bedouin is able to jihad all the way from France to Pakistan?

      White man are imperialist no doubt. Those who over-cry victim are loser and shit race, who exonerate themselves just because their grandfather are so stupid and fuck up to fight white man with cudgel, and they still not able to build AK47 for themselves.

      • CREADERS Chinese to some extent WERE SMART ENOUGH TO STICK TO THE SYSTEMS BRITISH SET UP IN SINGAPORE AND HONG KONG.

        • Brian Damage

          British administration is second to none. It provided a proven platform for those Chinese to prosper. But then again an almost perfect sytsem does not guarantee success. Look at the other “British systems:.The success of these two city states are not because of the system but rather the people. It may have made things easier without the trials and errors that China and Taiwan had to go through. Taiwan arrived eventually like the Koreans and China is going that way..

        • Malla

          In the case of Taiwan, unlike in other parts of the Japanese Empire, Japanese rule was quite humane and they were quite popular among the people. Don’t know why this was different in the other part of their huge Empire.

      • Brian Damage

        “Sunni Arab is guilty of imperialism, but no one take them to task, ” I guess no one took them seriously. If they are taken seriously, they would have been wiped out long ago. A few inconveniences of terror can be tolerated as long as the oil keeps flowing.

        Just like ISIS. A convenient scapegoat for the power struggle that’s happening in the region. Once power is consolidated, ISIS will be defeated within a month.

        • Who cares about “Toilet Bowls in a Sandbox”? Not China, that is for sure.

          American public is not going to want lose more trillions in Syria.

          People killing people in a sandy poor country is sad but if there is no natural resource at stake like Oil than nobody will care.

          Yemen, Syria, even Iraq now. These places are not a concern. They will not yield oil and only cause more refugees to rape Germans in swimming pools.

          So nobody wants to sent their armies.

        • Toilet Bowls in the Desert do not concern anyone if there is no oil and Iraq taught the world that getting oil out of a Toilet Bowl is more trouble than it is worth so like Yemen Syria will remain at war for 10 years and after half the males are dead then maybe the West will do business with the government that replaces it.

    • Malla

      Whites went around conquering the world. And Africans did nothing to other Africans, did not fight wars, did not build empires? Dahomey, Zulus etc… were all empire builders in their own right. Aztecs and many native Americans were imperial too. This is just human nature (unfortunately).
      Looking down upon other people as backward in some way is human nature too unfortunately. Indians look down upon all non Indians as backward. So do the Arabs as well as the Chinese for example. This is just human nature, ‘my tribe is the best’ mentality.
      What White people did, everybody else did too. It is just that White folks won most wars against most non Whites. If given the chance any other race in the world would have done the same even if they deny it today.
      For example why did the black Haitians after having gained independence from France and genociding its White population colonize the neighbouring Dominican Republic???? Who told them to? Did the Dominicans invite them?
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_War_of_Independence

    • People like Indians and African need to give white man a thank you note.

      Without whte man there be no India rail and a lot of Sati.

      And who give toothpaste, penicillin, mobile to the blacks? If everyone stay out of Africa and keep it as it is, they will still genocide themselves.

      With white man, there are more law and order.

      • Malla

        These videos by Prof Gates about African civilizations is brilliant

        Check out 14:30 In the Sahara, slavery is still rife. And guess what, the slave tribe or caste are supposed to be happy to be slaves. See how the African says that slavery is their tradition. Slaves are born into slavery and are slaves forever while the Tuareg get easy labour. I do not see any American black organization saying anything about this. Those racist imperialist Whites who banned slavery in Africa missed this part of Africa it seems.

        Also check this out

        Check 29:42, The Dahomey like the Ashanti were an imperial African power, so much so that to escape their amazons many Africans have to build Venice like villages. Don’t look like peaceful hippies to me. The idiots in the media and academia have constantly pushed this crap about us non Whites being nice and peaceful wise people before those evil racist White Neanderthals went killing, looting and raping the world. What a bunch of crap.
        Check out 31:30 in the same above video.
        Dahomay as well as the Ashanti made a lot of money from selling black slaves. They were an imperial power (the medieval Dahomey look very Aztec in their nature) who conquered other Africans and even sacrificed enemy warriors (Aztec style). Dahomeys took part in imperial conquests every year. No hippy democracy here. The fat king wears a nose filter to breathe cleaner air than us lowly commoners. No socialist paradise here.
        Check 11:21 the Ashanti, a warrior imperial empire from Ghana.

        In

        Arabs could bonk African women but African men could not have access to Arab women.
        In 56:51 minutes a Swahili Arab says African women were cheap and only poor Arabs married African women. No Whites involved in this racism. The Sheikh is proud he has no African ancestry but only Arab. Black women were concubines to be enjoyed by the Arab.
        In 1:26:57 in Zanzibar, when the blacks took over after GENOCIDE of Arabs and Indians by blacks they did the same thing to the browns what was done to them earlier. No White redneck involved.
        BLAME WHITEYS AS MUCH AS YOU WANT BUT NOBODY IS CLEAN.
        On a final note, the genocide of the Arabs and Indians of Zanzibar by blacks. No American media or university talks about this.

        • Jason Y

          Right, but this stuff is used to justify arguments contrary to Robert’s assertion in this post that “Blacks being grateful for white imperialism is a load of BS.” Sure, blacks under white rule may act better and have more high tech gadgets, but they’re not free.”

        • Malla

          Jason this was not in response to Robert but to the Kilimanjaro guy who only talks about White imperialism and ignores non White bad behaviour. My life has improved a lot because the the British came. No muslim raiders and snotty Hindu caste system, disease and superstitions. Modern technology to enjoy and the Brits were hardly that brutal. Modern western education so I can debate using logic instead of memorizing some religious text. My life as a brown Indian has sure improved.

        • MALLA I lived in Oman and actually Zanzibar was an Arab colony of Oman where under Arab domination Zanzibar people were suffering.

          It was a revolution, in fact, against occupation by an Arab country. That is all.

          Whether the Zanzibaris had been black, yellow or white they would have revolted against rule by a distant Arab country.

        • Malla

          No excuse for a holocaust. Besides Zanzibar was the Capital of Oman then and Arabs have been living there for centuries. My point is that the mainstream narrative in the West ignores such uncomfortable facts of non Whites killing other non Whites. In their eyes it is only White racists going all around looting and pillaging.
          The blacks could have simply deconstructed the whole racist structure after gaining power, no need to kill everybody.

        • Jason Y

          Jason this was not in response to Robert but to the Kilimanjaro guy who only talks about White imperialism and ignores non White bad behaviour. My life has improved a lot because the the British came. No muslim raiders and snotty Hindu caste system, disease and superstitions. Modern technology to enjoy and the Brits were hardly that brutal. Modern western education so I can debate using logic instead of memorizing some religious text. My life as a brown Indian has sure improved.

          That’s only cause Indians already had a condescending snotty world BEFORE the Brits came. In the case of Africans being taken to the New World, though, it wasn’t the case. The Africans didn’t have to deal with condescending super-aliens with massive technology enslaving them while they were in Africa. Note there was some slavery, but it just wasn’t the same thing.

  6. White man race traitor keep using skit to exonerate Sunni shit community. China Han Chinese not so stupid. We dont have these shit.

    We just tell Sunni they are fuck up and need to improve.

    White man is hopeless as your elite prostitute themselves to satan.

    • William

      Are you a flyover country prole WN masquerading as Asian?

    • Many Chinese think in multi diemensionally like I do.

      I dont see white man totally bad, neither totally good. I see things holistically.

      • William

        I suppose that’s possible.

        It’s just that many Asians see Whites as a rival and are secretly gleeful at alleged White demise, even if they know it’s amoral.

      • We are just assured of our civilization, For example, white man think over-fucking, LGBT is good.

        We think this is fuck up.

        • William

          It’s probably biological.

          Blacks like to bang most, then Caucasian, then Orientals.
          It is r-k selectivity, hormones, etc.

        • CREADERS Chinese men certainly do a great deal of screwing Malay women and having “side-families” in Southeast Asia. Any Chinese man in Cambodia or Philippines with money has a “side-family”.

        • CREADERRS How many Chinese men does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

          Chinese men will screw anything.

          This is why Philippines is a country of poor Chinese-Mestizos where everybody is 1/8 to 1/4 Chinese but have no interaction with their Chinese family members or China.

          Grandfather was some Chinese bush peddler who had a family with a Chinese woman and then a side-family with some Malay woman he gave a few pennies to.

      • CREADERS Nonsense, Chinese are IN-THE-BOX THINKERS and when somebody presents arguments like I’ve presented to you then you become hysterical as you have on several occasions.

        • Jason Y

          Most people in the world think inside-the-box thinkers. Name a place that isn’t outside some college university.

    • CREADERS As if Chinese do not PROSTITUTE THEMSELVES TO ANYBODY if the money is right.

      Seeing A 50 YEAR OLD CHINESE WOMAN SELL HER BODY IN THE PERSIAN GULF OR K.L. MALAYSIA IS PRETTY SAD but reflects that CHINESE WILL SELL THEMSELVES TO ANYONE.

      Same with your Drug Kingpins in Manila. Filipinos are stupid and prone to addiction but 50 year old Chinese men going to jail for cooking up shabu is pretty sad.

    • CREADERS Seeing a 50 Year Old Chinese Woman on KL Malaysia streets selling her body is a reflection that Chinese will sell themselves to anybody for money.

      • Brian Damage

        It is the same a 50 yr white woman in selling herself.
        Just look at the big picture. Look at the forest instead of the trees. If the forest is healthy, what’s with a few dead trees? I am more wary of people pointing out the few healthy trees when the whole forest is pretty much a shithole. Just like your favorite country, India.

        • BRAIN DAMAGE It’s the same WE ARE THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF OUR GREAT CONFUCIUS OR HINDUISM PATRIOTIC GARBAGE from all Indians and Chinese alike to a white guy in Asia.

          Whites do not BELLOW the superiority of our civilization. We cannot be bothered and we know that ultimately you live in a world we basically invented.

          I never said I thought India was great and you are dead-on that I married a Chinese woman and have two kids and it has to be said her father’s filial piety was small.

          But I don’t give a shit.

        • BRAIN DAMAGE Meh, Chinese in Southeast Asia are in a forever-precarious situation because they are most unloved by the Malays and it is doubtful if Indians or Arabs in those countries love them either.

        • BRAIN DAMAGE I would not move back to India if you paid me and I am white.

          However as both India and China see themselves as the ruling force in Asia what will happen in the future is more conflict in Singapore, Malaysia etc. where the slightly more organized numerous Chinese try to rule over the Indians.

          Luckily I’m white.

  7. Malla

    I can guarantee you that if the Zulus or the Ashanti were given today’s weapons like AK 47s and Kalashnikovs, they would have gone on a World conquering spree. Europe itself faced invasion from the Turks, North Africans and Mongols. If the Muslims had not been stopped in Tours by Charles Martel, I am sure they would have continued North France, England, Germany. They might not have adopted to the cold weather well but they would have gone conquering. If the Turks were not stopped in Vienna, they would have gone on a further conquering spree in Europe. Hell if the Europeans had not intervened in Africa, maybe Africa would have gone Arab.

    • That is right.

      Cry Sunni Cry..you are victim and I pity you –hahaha … vomit

      Even people as moronic, satanic and useless as Sunni, they cannot stop wanting to conquering, and in desparate move today, they decide to mass migrate to White man land, fuck the white man, have kids and bring them up as mad jihadhist,

      Nowaday Sunni imperialism is by cock, and by fuck.

      Then they blame white man imperialist.

  8. Sunni now embark in conquerin Europe through fucking.

    • Malla

      Today’s guilt ridden Euros do not deserve their ancestors. I wonder what was the point of Charles Martel or Jan Sobeiski fighting the Islamic hordes only for their descendants giving up their land like pussies. And being from the Third World, let me tell you, we do not respect pussies. Even Indians in Europe (I have relatives there) do not respect the native Whites. They find them pathetic and ready for looting and conquest. Have not met a single non White in Europe who praise the Whites for tolerance. Indeed most consider White people to have no culture. I have lived in the Third World I know, people respect strength and cunning not moral superiority. Sad but true.
      This ‘White people have no culture’ crap would not have worked in Victorian England for example.

      • Jason Y

        I don’t think your argument is an excuse for hate, though. Where can we draw the line between standing up against evil and hate?

        • Malla

          Hate LoL, In my stay in Europe I saw a lot of hate, mostly non White hate towards Whites and also other non Whites. Pakistanis calling blacks monkeys and shit. I remember being with a group of Turks and Pakistanis in London and we see a black girl dancing with joy about something talking on the phone going down the stairs, one of the Pakistani guys says ‘Dekh bandanrni nach rahi hai, dekh bandarni nach rahi hai’ translated into English from Hindi/Urdu ‘Look the female monkey is dancing, look the female monkey is dancing’ . And if you think this Pakistani dude is a looser redneck, you have got it wrong. The guy is rich as his Dad owns many shops in London and he is well educated and top of that he was popular among the ladies. He was a tough smart Alpha macho dude.

        • Malla

          To illustrate my point lets watch a video, shall we

          No go zones for blacks in South Asian areas and vice versa. Somalis and Caribbean black gangs killing each other in Britain. What are you gonna do about this hate????

        • Malla

          Also check this video on gangs of LA

          Race war between Hispanics and blacks
          Check from 20:34, see that the Hispanic gangsters talk about blacks, its racist and disgusting. That is a no go zone for blacks. This is in the USA where theoretically you should be able to go to any public place in the country.
          Look what he says’Kill blacks Kill blacks , its all about browns thats whatsup’
          What you gonna do bout this hate. LOL I would like to see a sensitivity trainer liberal going to teach these tough Hispanic dudes some racial sensitivity. LOL they would shoot that pussy guy full of lead. The whole multicultural multiracial project is bursting at the seams.

        • Jason Y

          Hate LoL, In my stay in Europe I saw a lot of hate, mostly non White hate towards Whites and also other non Whites. Pakistanis calling blacks monkeys and shit. I remember being with a group of Turks and Pakistanis in London and we see a black girl dancing with joy about something talking on the phone going down the stairs, one of the Pakistani guys says ‘Dekh bandanrni nach rahi hai, dekh bandarni nach rahi hai’ translated into English from Hindi/Urdu ‘Look the female monkey is dancing, look the female monkey is dancing’ . And if you think this Pakistani dude is a looser redneck, you have got it wrong. The guy is rich as his Dad owns many shops in London and he is well educated and top of that he was popular among the ladies. He was a tough smart Alpha macho dude.

          A lot of it’s due to ignorance. Most of those people have never left their village and the only idea of blacks comes from Hollywood movies and maybe tales from people who had traveled to the west. Plus there is this “We have to kick around someone weaker than we are to feel better about ourselves.” It’s like a dumbass redneck who can only master basic math and gets off picking on a Downs Syndrome victim.

        • Jason Y

          Race war between Hispanics and blacks
          Check from 20:34, see that the Hispanic gangsters talk about blacks, its racist and disgusting. That is a no go zone for blacks. This is in the USA where theoretically you should be able to go to any public place in the country.
          Look what he says’Kill blacks Kill blacks , its all about browns thats whatsup’
          What you gonna do bout this hate. LOL I would like to see a sensitivity trainer liberal going to teach these tough Hispanic dudes some racial sensitivity. LOL they would shoot that pussy guy full of lead. The whole multicultural multiracial project is bursting at the seams.

          Hispanics are a hopeless case and a nation with them as a majority will be hell for blacks. Note the hypocrisy as they hate blacks, but they complain when racist hate is directed toward Mexicans. I saw a similar thing with Koreans living in Korea and Filipinos living in the Phillippines, who generally hate blacks.

        • Jason Y

          I mean when racist hate from whites is directed toward Mexicans.

        • Jason Y

          I pretty much cannot stand alpha male Mexicans, which comprise most of them, nor extreme alpha male whites. They are incredibly narrow-minded cave mannish type groups. They have zero respect for anyone not exactly like them cause they only respect others who are exactly like them, the others are faggots in their eyes, or women, or a rival tribe. Definitely, there is no mutual respect going on around them, so I can only stand them for about 10 minutes and then want to kill them.

        • Stalin Tonks

          Ha! Ha! Jason. Non-whites see cucks like you as pussies and idiots.

        • Barack Thatcher

          STALIN TONKS

          I’m trying to find you mofo’s “Le Merchant Jesus” cartoon in time for Christmas….
          but it seems (((it was taken down)))
          damn!

        • Malla

          Jason Y, this racism against blacks is not only present in Hispanics, in nearly every Arab country, most people ill treat them, including North Africa. And now India has joined the party. Clashes with blacks happen nearly every month in a country where blacks make up only approx 0.0000001% of the population. I have already linked videos about them. Blacks being lynched in Libya. Blacks ill treated in Morocco, Yemen, Iraq, Algeria…. you name it. Blacks being unwanted in Israel. Even Ethiopian Jews were given secret contraceptives to keep their population down. Non Jewish blacks are treated even worse.

        • Jason Y

          Ha! Ha! Jason. Non-whites see cucks like you as pussies and idiots.

          Non-white assholes see people preaching kindness as pussies and idiots. That would be ones into the materialistic, idolatry driven culture like your typical dipshit Mexican gangbanger or black rapper.

          OK, throw these certain non-whites in with the WNs and let them hate each other. Because, they deserve each other

        • Malla

          Eugenics in a first World country

        • Jason Y

          Jason Y, this racism against blacks is not only present in Hispanics, in nearly every Arab country, most people ill treat them, including North Africa. And now India has joined the party. Clashes with blacks happen nearly every month in a country where blacks make up only approx 0.0000001% of the population. I have already linked videos about them. Blacks being lynched in Libya. Blacks ill treated in Morocco, Yemen, Iraq, Algeria…. you name it. Blacks being unwanted in Israel. Even Ethiopian Jews were given secret contraceptives to keep their population down. Non Jewish blacks are treated even worse.

          A lot of it is due to ignorance. As I said before, they only know about blacks from people who have traveled overseas and Hollywood.

          At least in the US, a substantial amount of the population are kind folks who don’t lynch blacks on sight. As for these other cultures you mentioned, possibly the people lynching blacks don’t represent the whole population. Normally, it’s the local dickheads doing all the hell-rasing just like in my hometown.

        • Jason Y

          Again with Malla, Stalin Tonks, and others you see the obsession with superiority that Robert was talking about.

          Now Stalin Tonks picks fights with me when it’s Robert who is saying that an obsession with superiority, as displayed by the beloved WN nation Apartheid South Africa (and also Israel), is BS. Robert said it first.

        • Jason Y

          Note when Robert posted a video about Bob Dylan, the puss-face Stalin Tonks bitches about Bob Dylan, but wouldn’t criticize RobertLindsay. So, what’s the matter, chicken? Why not attack the original poster? Afraid of getting kicked off the blog? 😆

        • Malla

          Jason, in India the local dickheads are doing it but the vast majority of the population support the dickheads and approve of the anti black actions. There was this politician of the AAP party who rushed with his followers into a black area and forced the black women to pee in test tubes in front of men roads so that they could be tested for drugs, his party is a very populist party. He did what he did because most people wanted it and they were complaining to him. Many Indians think blacks are demons and cannibals.

        • Jason Y

          Jason, in India the local dickheads are doing it but the vast majority of the population support the dickheads and approve of the anti black actions. There was this politician of the AAP party who rushed with his followers into a black area and forced the black women to pee in test tubes in front of men roads so that they could be tested for drugs, his party is a very populist party. He did what he did because most people wanted it and they were complaining to him. Many Indians think blacks are demons and cannibals.

          That was also the problem with the Jim Crow south.

          God help these people !! If they don’t fucking grow up and enter the modern age, then they will continue to be the monkeys they’ve always been. 😆

          Note there is always a certain anti-foreign sentiment in these lands, but blacks get the worst of it. Case in point, all white-worship in South Korea, China etc..

        • Jason Y

          I find it funny cause so many Tennessee farmers see blacks and Indian store owners (ones in Tennessee) as both being black and will make little cute racist comments, nothing threatening. “Yip-ee looky here they look just like colored people 😆 huh hah har har…”

        • Malla

          I have a slightly different take on things. Just like how an Arab can use a White invention like a Kalashnikov against Whites, a lot of this gang culture stems from black rap and ghetto black behaviour. Non blacks non Whites/non North East Asians are using ghetto black culture against blacks themselves.
          Check out this great video by this Hungarian French guy who explains why France is dead as well as North African gangs. Video in Hungarian with English subs

          First check out
          5:11 when he explains that France as a nation is dead.
          then later
          at 3:35 he says it that initially the North African youth were influenced by US black ghetto via MTV culture before radical Islam took over. White culture, even White working class culture rarely appealed to them.
          This is what happened with other brown immigrants too like Pakistanis/Banglas in UK. Later it turned to radical Islam /La raza etc… and they turned on the same blacks who had influenced them.
          Besides, the earlier Hispanic immigrants were village proles who did not trust banks a lot and thus had their cash on them (whatever little they had). They were small in those days, working hard dirty jobs first generation Hispanics. They were thus easy prey for tough black criminals. Their kids decided they will not take this crap no more. First world food led them to be bigger & tougher than their parents.
          North East Asians picked up White Middle class culture and went a different way. Indians stuck to being parasites.
          The future of the USA looks like Balkanisation.

        • Malla

          Jason Y talking of Indian store owners and blacks, they are not getting along well anyways

        • Malla

          I meant 13:35 not 3:35 in the earlier Hungarian French video

    • TJF

      To Jason Y:

      Hispanics are a hopeless case and a nation with them as a majority will be hell for blacks.

      Well there are already Latino nations with plenty of blacks, Panama and Columbia come to mind and Puerto Rico has a fairly strong African influence. I don’t think it would be hell for blacks but generally Latinos do not have Anglo White guilt so I suspect things like affirmative action would disappear. My personal experience with Latinos is that when their numbers are small they tend to assimilate to the larger culture. I’ve met Latinos who are into Punk music, Goth, Metal, surf culture, and hip hop, etc. If the percentage of the Latino population in the US had stayed the same as it was in the 70s (and earlier) I suspect Latinos overall would have effectively become a subset of whites (through assimilation and intermarriage). As it stands with their ever increasing numbers and strong push for a separate identity I think this possibility will go away.

      • Jason Y

        Possibly materialistic Mexican gangbangers don’t represent all Mexicans. If anything I’m assuming they would be driving all the hate against blacks. Possibly most Mexicans moderately dislike blacks, but they’re too much of a peasant variety to do much about it. Myself, I’ve seen Filipinos and others, the ordinary ones, and they couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag.

        Also, where I live there are dickheads, hot-heads who don’t represent the population but claim to, and drive blacks out of mountain valleys, pick on social misfits, run their pussy mouth 24/7 on Facebook, and whatnot.

        • What job or industry attracts African-Americans to rural mountain valleys?

          I’d tell the rural whites they could have it.

          Once a neighborhood is being run by Mexican gangsters its probably time to sell your house and move forward in life. The property values might diminish anyhow.

  9. Jason Y

    There was this book where they tried to white-wash the whole black/white relationship before the Civil War by making it seem like most of the slaves were house slaves. It’s just blatant lies. Actually the authors should be sued by telling lies.

  10. Malla

    As far as post apartheid South Africa goes, this video is interesting

    Check out the part around 3:40, 12:47 and also 19:28
    The Cape coloureds are now claiming Apartheid never ended except that it is the blacks who are now the plantation masters and coloureds are the ones suffering.

    • Jason Y

      Blacks can be viscously racist against mixed people. Look how they bullied Bob Marley in his youth.

    • MALLA

      Show me ONE Brahmin whose going to spend his time bothering black people on the road. Or a Baniya.

      Just more idiocy from lower-caste Hindus-Muslims.

      Lower-caste South Asians will sometimes bother any foreigner of any color who lives in India. Period.

      Brahmin and other higher castes won’t, its the losers who do this. Nothing better to do and nowhere to go.

      Part of it is the same jealousy of “local dickheads” anywhere of any color. They are never getting out of their little neighborhood so what have they got to lose?

      Nowhere to go and nothing to do.

      • Malla

        Man Trash, you need to go to Brahmin dominated states in India like UP and Bihar. Man those places are so shit, parts of black Africa are much safer. There are Brahmin millias killing lower castes (I am upper caste BTW) and the lower castes retaliate as well. They make American rednecks/British Chavs look like intellectuals, trust me on that. Their villages/towns are so dirty and shit with open gutters and crappy houses that the lowest of the White American rednecks/British Chav would puke the moment the steps down the trains. That Redneck/Chav dude would not have even imagined that humans can live like this. Their dogs live claener/better lives than some of the people living in those Brahmin villages.

        • MALLA Please explain why Brahmin in Jo Jo or Dubai do not give a shit about a foreigner African or white and its only the lower-castes or Muslims who would bother a foreigner?

        • Malla

          Trash, Brahmans outside India and in the big Indian cities may be civilised but in villages, the same Brahmans are human trash.
          Listen I am Kayastha, we are half Brahmans half Kshatritas (warriors). I got my DNA tested and as expected my Y DNA is R1A1 Slavic from Central Asia. But we are mixed, mixed with original natives of India.
          Varanasi, the Hindu holy city dominated by Brahmins and Kayasthas like me is a shit hole. It is probably the dirtiest place on planet Earth worse than most places in Africa. One sniff of Varanasi and any sensible man would run to a red neck trailer in rural America or a poor Russian housing project for sanity.
          We had a castes like brahmins and kayasthas who did nothing but concentrate on intellectual pursuits and yet we could not even invent a candle!!! We used oil lamps and that is all we know as Babur the Mughal conqueror rightfully observed.
          We had a caste like the Kshatriya, a warrior caste who could concentrate on the art of warfare. That is all they had to do in life and yet India was conquered easily repeatedly throughout history by Scythians, Huns, Khambojas, Arabs, Turks, Persians, Mongols, Mughals, French and finally the British.
          Check this out, this is a housing project in Tokyo where the poorest Japanese live

          Check from 2:53
          and this is Varanasi, city of Brahmins and Kayasthas

          No comparison really. The Japanese poorest shits are far far better and civilized than our best. LOL. Yet we claim how great we are, how civilized we are. My relatives have been pissing me off on this from my childhood of how civilized we are while others are barbarians. WTF.

        • MALLA

          Brahmin and Bania in cities were Africans and Europeans live are weak Mumma’s Boys who will not try to JUMP a 6’3 200 pound African or White male.

          No, it will either be low-caste Indians or Muslims.

          NB Advice for Africans and Whites IN INDIAN CITIES OR DUBAI…Keep YOUR MOUTH SHUT when low-caste or Muslims get aggressive. Walk away. They HAVE NOTHING and WILL NEVER BE ANYTHING ANYHOW.

          As a FOREIGNER who lived in Mumbai I’d say your safe in predominantly Brahmin areas. You’ll be safe in Dubai with Brahmin but might get raped or robbed at night near a work camp in the desert (One female British doctor was).

          Poverty in Indian rural cities is terrible and Dravidian/Slavic tensions have been around since the Aryans came through the Pass from who-knows-what-white country….

          But Africans and Whites in the Western Cities like Jo Jo and Andheri will not be beaten, raped or robbed by Brahmin or Baniya. Sorry, this won’t occur.

          Their assailants will be Muslim or Low-Caste.

        • Malla

          And what is funny our PM Modi is starting a Project to convert varanasi into Kyoto. it is a joint project with the Japanese government. WTF, that is NEVER gonna happen. It will happen only if we replace the people in varanasi with the Japanese. What will happen is that the Japanese will send aid and experts. The money from Japan will be stolen by upper caste and lower caste desis, Hindus and Muslims alike, the Japanese will get frustrated and will finally leave.
          You have seen varanasi in the video above, check out Kyoto

          varanasi again

          Never gonna happen ever.

        • peterparker123

          Brahmins themselves are not homogeneous, that’s why.

          ON brahmins of up doing this, they have armenian ancestry, and armenians is also part of indo-european war like culture. That’s why you see those brahmins of UP with war like tendencies.

          But brahmins of kerala have different history. They were clergy men, who got into brahamnical fold, and were doing job of the lords. Their main work was to do puja paath, yagna etc. That’s why they are soft.

          As I say, brahmin does not mean a race now, but professions.

        • peterparker123

          //I don’t argue that Brahmin in India are responsible for everything you have mentioned BUT THEY WON’T BE BEATING UP BLACKS OR WHITES.//

          clerks and beating?

          Again, these are brahmins, the IAS Middle castes, not brahmans, the lords.

          I have more doubts that whether india was ever touched by vedic people. For sure, the valleys, and other north indian parts like gharwal definitely had vedic people, and, to some extent, west bengal, under king shashanka’s rule, but apart from that, some kingdoms like hoysala of mayuasharma, did not even exist for more than 100 years.

      • Malla

        LOL this is your intellectual Brahmin


        The guy hitting with the stick Ganesh Joshi is a Brahmin, Most of the people behind him are predominately Brahmins. If you ask me, they are barbarian monkeys. Russian skinheads are far better humans than this human trash. LOL.
        Shit like this happens in India often. If you see the small towns and villages of India, your red neck towns in comparison will look like heaven and the people much better too. No comparison really.

        • MALLA Small towns everywhere have ignorance a foreigner wants to avoid, I agree.

          I would nto recommend a Brahmin entering a small town in Canada or the U.S. either.

          Small towns are where idiots who lack the skills to go anywhere are stuck.

        • MALLA

          Whites and Africans in India don’t live in small towns. They live in the West Coast cities from Mumbai to Cochin to Bangalore.

          I notice the Brahmin men are wearing suits and ties and appear to be employed at SOME KIND OF JOB.

          I doubt these BRAHMIN would BEAT UP AFRICANS in Jo Jo.

          Inter-caste violence and hassling some foreigner who does not know anything about you or your culture are different.

        • MALLA Which Brahmin in Jo-Jo beats up Africans or Europeans? Which European or African would live in Bihar?

          Yes, this is terrible BUT has nothing to do with foreigners who live in Mumbai or Bangalore.

          Bottom line: Brahmin are too busy making money to give a shit about FOREIGNERS. Beating up foreigners in Jo Jo is probably a Low-Caste thing because they don’t have a decent job anyhow and nothing to do.

        • Malla

          TRASH, small town America or Canada is HEAVEN compared to small towns in India. How can you even compare? In behaviour of the people in everything. HOW CAN YOU EVEN COMPARE. They are not even in the same page, not even in the same chapter or the same book.!!! I have been in Chav neighborhoods in Europe, far far better than out small towns in everything.

        • peterparker123

          //Listen I am Kayastha, we are half Brahmans half Kshatritas (warriors).//

          You actually are a mixed race, with vedic ancestry, as well as australoid/munda, and to some extent, a bit of mongloid.

          Yes, as per the hindutva, you are also one of their important upper caste member. But, castes are not going to unite. It is racial profiling which brings nationalism, not professions.

          That’s why a brahmin, clergy, babu married you, not vedic, ural/ukranian/norse/indo aryan.

        • peterparker123

          joshi does not make one a brahman, he may be brahmin, again, due to profession.

          In kashmiri aryanic language, joshi == zutshi. It actually means one who reads jyotish.

          Yes, if you think that these are brahmins, you are free. But, they are not brahmnas of vedas.

        • Malla

          Peter, I too think that Brahmins of today are NOT 100% the Brahmins of the Vedas. Something went wrong along the way. Brahmins of the Vedas never lied. Never lied on the threat of death. Brahmins today, most of them lie like crazy. It is just that upper castes Hindus have a higher IQ (on average) and hence we dominate many of the White collar jobs. We are not morally like what we were meant to be if one reads the Vedas.

        • peterparker123

          @Malla

          First, know the differecen. Vedic lords were labeleld as BRAHMANS, not brahmin.

          Brahmin is a professional elite, like clergy. It is similar to clearing IIT-JEE entrance. If you can get AIR-1, then you are considered as top most qualified. Same is brahmin, the more you can prove your elite charachertistics as profession, the more you will be liked. These brahmins can hardly set the world of fire. And, the biggest qualification of being a brahmin is to be timid, and being servile without questioning anything. Who wants to be part of such clergy?

          Fact of the matter is, those indo-aryans, and many nordic-aryans, who decided to stay in gharwal etc, never ever wanted to be part of this clergy. Therefore, many of the native people were taken into this fold. Now, I am not saying that not all brahmans of vedas did not become brahmins, but not all brahmins are brahmans of vedas.

          And also, there is no such thing as do’s and don’ts in vedas. It is again hindutva campaign. Vedas don’t have culture, no science also.

          These are part of brahamanical elite like puranas,upanishad etc. It is their creation.

        • peterparker123

          @Malla

          Trust me, I am the one who has indo-european ancestry, and as such never faced any backlash from british, american, christians,mulims etc.

          Though have suffered setbacks at the hands of hindus only, including many brahmins too.

        • Peter, new policy is all regular commenters have to donate. $10 minimum and you can comment here for life. I think you may be in India so that may be hard for you. If that is a hardship for you, email me and we will see what we can do about it. I really enjoy your anti-caste stuff here. It’s great!

          Thank you for your cooperation.

        • Peter, I am going to have to ban you as you have not yet donated. I think you live in India, so if the money is a hardship for you over there, write me an email and we can see what we can work out. Enjoy your comments putting Brahmins in their place.

        • Malla

          Peter
          Actually there is a minor difference to this day. India is Brazil-Mexico not South Africa (it was like South Africa in the ancient past maybe).
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3769933/
          “Second, we find that the Indian groups consistent with simple ANI-ASI mixture are most often from tribal and traditionally lower-caste groups. Middle- and upper-caste groups tend to have evidence of more complex histories, with signals of multiple layers of ANI ancestry from slightly different ANI ancestral populations (Appendix C). Further evidence for multiple waves of admixture in the history of many traditionally middle- and upper-caste groups (as well as Indo-European and northern groups) comes from the more recent admixture dates we observe in these groups (Table 1) and the fact that a sum of two exponential functions often produces a better fit to the decay of admixture LD than does a single exponential (as noted above for some northern groups; Appendix B). Evidence for multiple components of West Eurasian-related ancestry in northern Indian populations has also been reported by Metspalu et al.7 based on clustering analysis.”

      • Malla

        When I was watching that video from the Chinese website linked by Creador about South African White slum dwellers, I was appalled and surprised at the cleanliness and order in those slums. Brahmin villages comparatively are trash, smelly with gutters and ugly buildings. Even villages in poor North Korea are heaven compared to Brahmin villages and the behaviour of the people much more civilized.

        • White Slum dwellers were not born poor. Halfway through their lifetime Mandela seized control of South Africa and those poor whites unable to flee South Africa-which many have now done-indeed bore the brunt.

        • Malla

          TRASH it is not about poverty but about cleanliness and order. Many of the small towns in India have many filthy rich people but are far more chaotic, barbarian and smelly shitty than those poor Africkaner White slums. It is not wealth that I speak of but civilized behaviour and human dignity.

        • MALLA Filthy rich Brahmin from Bihar on a train WILL NOT ATTACK Africans or Europeans (They’ll talk to us whites because we share a certain genetic history but will not even GO NEAR an African).

          I don’t argue that Brahmin in India are responsible for everything you have mentioned BUT THEY WON’T BE BEATING UP BLACKS OR WHITES.

        • Optimus Prime

          In addition to the comment, brahmins plus Upper castes.. They are not behind brahmins much as far as institutionalized racism goes. They aren’t attacked as viciously as they should be.

        • Malla

          Optimus Prime, in Hindu customs killing a Brahmin was considered the ultimate sin. It was a bigger sin than killing a deity. There are cases when even Gods were made to repent for killing a Brahmin. The only bigger sin in Hinduism than killing a Brahmin is killing a Cow!
          You can be a mass murderer and kill a billion nobodies. And some other guy is guy guy who helps the poor, saves animals, invents cure for cancer. But if that other guy kills a Brahmin he is much bigger sinner than you. This is Hindu morality.

        • Optimus Prime

          Malla, Not denying what you’ve said, but I don’t understand why Vaishyas, Kshatriyas and all the upper castes under their clan aren’t getting the contempt they deserve. I am shocked they get a free pass despite their vicious racism. They are equally worst offenders if not like Brahmans. Agree brahmans are the architect of this societal mess and these people seem to be just happy with the power to abuse. I do not know where you live, but I live down south and here the upper caste and lower caste who gain upward mobility despise other lower castes/untouchables without any impunity., Only brahmins are singled out for their supposed racism. I have seen far more casteist kshatriyas than brahmans. The casteist feeling seems to be running through their veins and it’s not going anywhere sooner

        • peterparker123

          //The only bigger sin in Hinduism than killing a Brahmin is killing a Cow!//

          And you believe it!!!!!

          This clearly shows that how those clergy men imposed themselves on native indians.

          I thought, you can analyse it rationally.

          As per constitution, I am also brahmin, but, as a matter of fact, I am brahman of vedas, the norsemen, whose ancestor migrated from gharwal regions, 500 years back.

        • Optimus Prime

          *with impunity I mean

        • Malla

          peterparker123
          I don’t believe it but that is what all Hindus believed once upon a time.

          Portuguese explorer Francis Xavier on the Brahmins. Of course he was a Catholic priests so there maybe some propaganda in his letters but somehow I believe him.
          https://archive.org/stream/lifelettersofstf01coleuoft/lifelettersofstf01coleuoft_djvu.txt
          We have in these parts a class of men among the pagans who are called Brahmins. They keep up the worship of the gods, the superstitious rites of religion, frequenting the temples and taking care of the idols. They are as perverse and wicked a set as can anywhere be found, and I always apply to them the words of holy David, ^from an tmJioly race and a wicked
          and crafty man deliver me^ O Lord.”’^^ They are liars and cheats to the very backbone. Their whole study is, how to deceive most cunningly the simplicity and ignorance of the people. They give out publicly that the gods command certain offerings to be made to their temples, which offerings are simply the things that the Brahmins themselves wish for, for their own maintenance and that of their wives, children, and servants.
          Thus they make the poor folk believe that the images of their gods eat and drink, dine and sup like men, and some devout persons are found who really offer to the idol twice a day, before dinner and supper, a certain sum of money. The Brahmins eat sumptuous meals to the sound of drums, and make the ignorant believe that the gods are banqueting. When they are in need of any supplies, and even before, they give out to the people that the gods are angry because the things they have asked for have not been sent, and that if the people do not take care, the gods will punish them by slaughter, disease, and the assaults of the devils. And the poor ignorant creatures, with the fear of the gods before them, obey them implicitly. These Brahmins have barely a tincture of literature, but they make up for their poverty in learning by cunning and malice. Those who belong to these parts are very indignant with me for exposing their tricks. Whenever they talk to me with no one by to hear them they acknowledge that they have no other patrimony but the idols, by their lies about which they procure their support from the people. They say that I, poor crea- ture as I am, know more than all of them put together. They
          often send me a civil message and presents, and make a great complaint when I send them all back again. Their object is to bribe me to connive at their evil deeds.

        • Malla

          Optimus, actually my kayastha relatives are as racist casteist as any brahmin can be. In villages our relatives have different set of utensils for lower caste peoples. Yet they pratter all day how those evil Brits were racist to our ancestors. What hypocrisy?
          Many of my ancestors actually made a lot of money during the British Raj. They were zamindars (land lords), they gave a low fixed tax to the Indian government (British Raj) but in return looted the lower caste farmers with a tax as high as 50%. Yet they now cry about how bad British rule was, how they looted the country etc…!!! Typical Indian ‘hypocrisy in a heartbeat’ mentality.

          Even lower castes can be castist and racist to other lower castes. Earlier days a chamar (leather worker) never ate food with other lower caste people.

        • peterparker123

          //Portuguese explorer Francis Xavier on the Brahmins. Of course he was a Catholic priests so there maybe some propaganda in his letters but somehow I believe him.//

          ha ha ha, those hindutavadi.

          Portugese, as basque, were first european to arrive in India.

          At that time, they had trade links with the then brahmanical vijaynagar empire. Vijay nagar kingdom used to purchase portugese manufactured ammunitions, and vessels. And even the services of portugese military men.

          But after the fall of vijay nagar, portugese people did not leave india, how can they? They themselves had lot their own area.

          So they created kingdom in the malabar regions. That includes mangalore, goa, dadra and nagar haveli etc.

          And, it will be very surprising, but the native girls of those regions married these basque male. Those girls converted to christianity, out of love for their husbands, not forceful etc.

          Even today, all mangaloreans,goans, still ascribe to their pre christian customs and rituals. Portugese people never interferred in their ritual, only the community got changed.

          Peshwas too never fought against portugese, but, the empire was kept as union terriroty.

        • peterparker123

          //Optimus, actually my kayastha relatives are as racist casteist as any brahmin can be.//

          Because, origin of both caste brahmin and kayastha is same.

          Brahmin is top of hierarchy under brahamnical set of vocations, who were like administratros. Kayastha were functioneerig of professional elite, like IAS officer will have important officers or executive.

          This is classification on profession, but not on racial profiling. If racial profiling is done, then I am sure, there won’t be much of difference.

        • Malla

          Francis Xavier on his conversation on Hindus
          https://archive.org/stream/lifelettersofstf01coleuoft/lifelettersofstf01coleuoft_djvu.txt
          “So he was obliged to expose his
          ignorance, and replied that their gods required two duties of
          those who desired to go to them hereafter, one of which was
          to abstain from killing cows, because under that form the gods
          were adored; the other was to show kindness to the Brahmins,
          who were the worshippers of the gods.”

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C4%81hmanahatya
          Brāhmahatya (also known as Brahma Hatya) is Sanskrit for “the act of killing a Brahmin”. Puranic Hinduism considers this act to be a major sin, worse than the murder of others.

          Legend
          In a story involving Indra and Vritra, Brāhmahatya is portrayed as a hideous crime. The killer and his/her descendents thereafter bear a curse. It is not limited to the killing of a Brahmin. It extends to the killing of all those creatures that are equivalent to a Brahmin.

          Japa, tapa, homa, yagya, tarpan and shradh kriya can defeat the curse. Brahma dosha nivarana pooja is also mandatory. In such cases trimbaka pooja at triyambakeshwara and pinda daan at gaya is suggested. Ancient scripts state that the curse can be defeated by the darshana of round ek mukhi rudraksha, but it is very difficult to get the original one.

          In Tiruvidaimaruthur Shiva temple, near Kumbakonam, an idol for Brahmahatya is present. The complete legend of this temple is associated with this curse

  11. Jason Y

    Same with South Africa. Hey look, these White European racist fascists came in here and built up the region and made a big economy because they have higher IQ’s! So what. I am supposed to like them more because they are rich and hate those Africans because they are poor? I realize this is Indian thinking, but we socialists do not think that way.

    Ep-gah was the biggest supporter of that idea. Note all the comments where he said “They destroyed what their ‘betters’ had built for them”, “The fucking white fascists had built Latin America, Africa, you name it and these ingrate NAMS destroyed it and/or don’t appreciate it.”, “The Africans should build a huge statute to Cecil Rhodes.”

    • JASON Y Poles in Detroit or Flint experienced the same phenomenon. Halfway or 3/4 through their lifetime as they concluded paying the mortgage on a house worth a great deal of money in 1965 in a booming industrial city the economy collapsed.

      They were stuck in Flint or Detroit-once the Paris of the Midwest and richer than San Francisco at the height of U.S. Manufacturing in the 60’s-because their city was wonderful in 1965.

      By the time they paid their mortgage in 1995 after 30 years they could not sell the house because NOBODY wanted to move to that city. Wasn’t worth $500 so they are stuck for life.

      Meanwhile the educated middle-class under 40 took off as fast as they could.

      So only the druggies, prostitutes, criminals, feeble-minded, elderly and others unable to leave stay. Businesses shut and there are no taxes.

      Same with South Africa.

  12. MALLA

    FOREIGNERS AFRICA OR EUROPEAN WOULD HAVE TO BE CRAZY TO HANG AROUND POOR TOWNS AND SLUMS IN INDIA…OF COURSE YOU WILL GET YOUR ASS KICKED FOR NO REASON BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS BORED.

    No quarrel there.

    But in DUBAI or MUMBAI JO JO it will not be Brahmin or Banias because these people have a job, are busy and do not care about foreigners.

  13. MALLA

    Indians who live in South Carolina or Texas will tell you that small towns are NOT HEAVEN even if the standard of living is better.

    I assure you of this.

    Small towns everywhere are where people live who a) lack the education or skills to go anywhere else b) are usually poor and cannot afford to leave c) are ignorant d) resent the lower standard of living they have compared to the cities or suburbs (Yes, small towns in America have a higher standard of living than Bihar but lower than suburbs or cities).

    • Malla

      Indians in USA and Europe complain about the smallest things and criticize everything. When they come to India they ignore the smells and shit and shitty behaviour of the people and take it as normal. The moment you point out the shittyness around you they shriek ‘desh drohi’ (traitor to nation), start prattering about the greatness of Hindu culture and some illogical non sense. I think 95% of Indians cannot think logically which at least 75% of Whites can. I find villagers living in England more logical and rational than educated Indians from the IITs.
      I said small town America is HEAVEN compared to Indian cities not American suburbs.
      England, yes England. I used to frequent farmer’s market in England in Preston and most of the people seemed very intelligent and smart and polite and civilized. more rational and intelligent than the Indians in my company who are all educated engineers, I am a 1000% sure about this. But my Indian engineering colleagues are definitely more cunning and cheat better. So I am not sure rural people are dumb. Maybe so in the USA but not sure if that is the case in Europe.

      British Farmers and small town people


      Indian villagers

      The British villagers are much more intelligent , have much more knowledge of history and general knowledge, more civilized, clean and I can go on and on. Our villagers and small town people are barbaric, dumb,dirty and not in the same league. Sorry buddy. Maybe the British are smarter than White Americans.

      • Whites who went to America were largely peasants. Minnesota Swedish-Americans will have a lower IQ on average than most Stockholm residents and Appalachians than Scots. On average.

        Jews and later Europeans from Ireland, Germany etc who immigrated AFTER 1910 were tradespeople who were moving to the States when the Immigration Laws TOUGHENED UP and those unfit were rejected.

        This is why Northern Yankee whites who immigrated after 1910-Italians, Jews, Germans, Slaves, Irish-tend to be a bit more intelligent.

        • Malla

          Thanks for the info.

        • Jason Y

          Whites who went to America were largely peasants. Minnesota Swedish-Americans will have a lower IQ on average than most Stockholm residents and Appalachians than Scots. On average.

          I’m sure that was the case then, but it means nothing now, even though some Europeans back in the home country can be snooty smart-asses.

      • Malla

        Hahaha
        Ex Chief Justice of India Justice Katju says 90% of Indians are idiots and fools.

        Check 13:37
        He rightfully observes that 90% of Indians are fools. 90% of our MPs (Members of Parliament) are criminals.
        Check from 20:31
        He explains why Indian democracy is fucked as we are a feudal backward society. Democracy fucks up in a multicultural multiracial society as people vote only for people of their own tribe. The Hinduvadis are the feudal elements of the past who are fighting back modernism. And unfortunately they are winning. And winning permanently.

        • Higher-caste Indians are not fools. They are subtly benefiting from what might be the stupidity of lower-caste and Muslim fools.

        • Malla

          And Guess What Churchill predicted about India, during the last days of the British Raj.
          All what he predicted came true. 1000% true.
          http://greatthoughtsofwisdom.blogspot.in/2012/12/sir-winston-churchills-prediction-about.html
          Sir Winston Churchill… His argument against granting India freedom…
          “Power will go to the hands of rascals, rogues, freebooters; all Indian leaders will be of low calibre & men of straw. They will have sweet tongues & silly hearts. They will fight amongst themselves for power & India will be lost in political squabbles. A day would come when even air & water would be taxed in India. ”
          When 90% of the population are fools, this is inevitable.

        • peterparker123

          //Higher-caste Indians are not fools. They are subtly benefiting from what might be the stupidity of lower-caste and Muslim fools.//

          Free booters, and that’s why they will never oppose castes.

          On the contrary, they oppose racial profiling.

        • Malla

          TRASH, the highest castes like brahmins and Kayasthas make up about 5 to 7% of the population. But even if we upper castes are not fools (which is true) we have fucked up character. We cheat, we lie, we swindle, we steal. Most Indians should have been like ex Chief Justice Markandey Katju. He is a TOP Brahmin but he opposes the caste system and is an upright person. Most people of my country are either idiots or else they are cheats, scum and swindlers. Many are idiots as well as cheats and swindlers!!!. I am sad to type this but it is true.

        • peterparker123

          //TRASH, the highest castes like brahmins and Kayasthas make up about 5 to 7% of the population.//

          This is as per hindutvawadi demographics, just for vote counts.

          And still, what is high caste and low caste? They are professions.

          I feel, there are hardly any superior races left in India.

    • Jason Y

      I don’t know about India, but Filipino villages are not that bad. Sure it’s a different way of living, sort of like what Americans might experience in Boy Scout Camp, but people can survive and adapt. Note, anyone with an American style house in the Phillippines is rich or has people from a rich nation sending money and sometimes they will have servants.

  14. MALLA Whites who entered the Northern United States after 1910 did so under tougher immigration laws which sought out tradespeople with no criminal records or diseases.

    Prostitutes and criminals were turned away at Ellis Island or deported.

    When Jews arrived in the U.S. even later, most were scientists or intellectuals in Europe.

    By the time INDIANS arrived they were the most talented.

  15. MALLA

    Compare and contrast Indian crime rates in San Francisco or New Jersey with Canada.

    U.S. screened Indians carefully so only educated and skilled Brahmin or Bania could get in. They’ve made a fairly significant contribution, I should add.

    Canada took Sikhs and Tamils. England took Northwest Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

    Today Vancouver and Bradford, UK have “No-Go” areas ruled by Indian drug-dealers, pimps, gangs etc. Indian prostitutes of 15 roam the streets, seeking a partner for $40 worth of crack.

    You won’t see this in Indian-American neighborhoods because the U.S. screened Indians so thoroughly in the 1960’s-1970’s.

    You will not see AS MUCH terrorism in the United States because Pakistani doctors and College Professors are unlikely to have children who go to jail for selling drugs and then are radicalized.

    These are vast generalizations but they are generally true.

    • Malla

      Asian Indian Americans are the most elite group of immigrants in US history. Elites from India transferred themselves to join the elites of the USA. Canada and Britain were not so choosy (though Britain also got elite Indians in large numbers, doctors and merchant class). Canada, Australia and New Zealand seem to be meritocratic in the their immigration policy only recently.

  16. MALLA

    The top Brahmin never immigrate to the U.S. Who would trade a penthouse in Jo Jo for a 7-11 in Newark? Top Brahmin and some Baniya make their money in Dubai.

    So you support my statement about caste and occupation. Sikhs from the Punjab who immigrated to Canada have created war zones there while Gujarati merchants in New Jersey opened stores and gave white teenagers jobs.

    This is because Muslim and low-caste Indians are generally more violent, less-intelligent, impulsive, uneducated and poorer than Baniya or Brahmin.

    You are repeating what I have said MALLA: U.S. takes the three highest caste Indian white-collar professionals and so New Jersey is not the violent “No Go” area for whites like Canada, Britain or Sweden.

    Please explain why Sikh neighborhoods in Vancouver are a chaos of drug dealing, middle-aged Punjabi prostitutes, youth gangs, drive-bys and London’s Pakistan Pathan neighborhoods the same….But Gujarati neighborhoods in New Jersey are clean, prosperous and lawful.

    • Malla

      You are correct to a very large extent. It is just that I have seen many barbarian Brahmins and banias. I have Brahmin relatives, my mom’s younger brother married a Brahmin woman for example. But, in my opinion, the average middle class Englishman in England (or nearly all Japanese or most Germans) is a far intelligent and civilized specimen of humanity than us Kayasthas or brahmins or those banias, even the educated ones.

      • MALLA

        In terms of who is causing the crime and prostitution problems in England or Germany it is not Brahmin or Baniya castes.

        Baniya and Brahmin children born in the U.S. are not creating the nightmare “No Go” areas of Canada or Bradford, UK.

        • peterparker123

          Those baniya and brahmin kids can’t do anything in India, canada is stil la superior british/anglo civilization.

      • MALLA

        I would not disagree with you that small Northern Indian states like Bihar are backward.

        Nor would I tell any African or Japanese he should move there and walk around after dark.

        • Malla

          All villages in India except those in the Himalayas and some coastal villages are full of mostly stupid cheating barbarian smelly backward people. Same is true of the vast majority in small towns and cities.

  17. MALLA

    Small-town people are usually morons who have never been anywhere and cannot go anywhere and this is why the live in small towns.

    True everywhere except maybe East Asia.

    • Malla

      And Britain too. You should meet British farmers in a farmer’s market. Many are ex professionals from the city. Smart, intelligent civilized folks and friendly to a brown skinned foreigners like me (as long as I respond with the same amount of civility which is fair). Same for many parts of Europe including some parts of Eastern Europe like Poland or the Czech Republic. I met some smart people civilized in small towns. I think American small town people are more ignorant/barbaric than those from Europe and East Asia.

  18. yo

    “what social freedoms do they have there that they do not have in the rest of the region? How are the social freedoms of Arab Israeli Christians better than those of Arab Christians in Lebanon or Syria? Someone needs to clue me.”

    For one, they aren’t subject to sharia law, you damn moron, they aren’t subject to the whims of some inbred imam or rich arabs to have their limbs or their head removed, stoned or lashed to death, for stupid things like touching a quran the wrong way, you ignorant fuck.

    And of course Nasser, an arab squatter in Egypt was popular after distributing THE SPOILS of the Ottomans, 1st, Arabs don’t consider the Turks muslim in the truest sense, 2nd lotting and distributing the spoils among the looters is a practise enshrined in the quran where 20% of the loot is reserved “for Allah” i.e. the caliph or leader of turn. Arabs are thieves and raiders.

    • YO Why are Arab Gulf cities so nice and Turkey and Cairo (Slavic and African, respectively) third-rate toilet bowl backwaters.

      Dubai or Turkey? Where would you rather spend the night. I’ve been to both. I’d like to be in Dubai, though these are pure Arabs.

    • What’s your problem? Are ou a Jew? You talk like a Jew.

      LOL, Christians in Lebanon and Syria (at least the parts run by the government) are not subject for “Sharia Law” you fool.

      In fact, Christians in Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq and even Yemen are not subject to this “Sharia Law” you describe here.

      Nasser the Egyptian was a squatter? I guess he had no right to be there? WTF is your problem, idiot?

      LOL, “distributing the loot” has to do with goods plundered from the infidels under jihad. You can’t steal from your fellow Muslims or plunder them and distribute the loot, hebe. That doesn’t apply to taking from rich Arabs and giving to poor Arabs. There’s nothing in the Quran about that. It’s just that Arabs don’t believe in having money define their whole existence like your idolatrous people and they believe in splitting the money and stuff amongst themselves.

      Now why don’t you get the Hell of this blog, hebe, and go back to Tel Aviv or Jew York whatever kosher hole you crawled out of?

      HAND!

      • ROBERT

        I lived in the Persian Gulf and Arabs in wealthy countries have managed to haul everyone out of poverty since in the last 30 years since they began to really profit from oil.

        Every Arab citizen has a right to a house and nobody goes hungry.

        • Malla

          Well Saudi Arabia is slipping since the oil price going down. 25% of Saudis live in poverty. And see their slums 3rd world poverty far below the trailer trash losers of USA and dirtier then the South African White slums.

          Check from 5:55
          Check out the Saudi slums, open sewage water and shit. Compare and contrast to that South African Afrikaner slum which is cleaner with gardens and plants and pets. All peoples are not the same.
          Both Saudi Arabia and Israel hide the huge amount of poverty they have. If you ask me, both Saudi Arabia and Israel need communism. Both have extreme poverty as well as prosperity. The oil wealth needs to be distributed and feudal tribal bedu laws and sharia need to go away. Only Communism can do that effectively.

  19. yo

    So much for your shit about “arabs don’t worry about money” THEIR DAMN RELIGION REVOLVES AROUND TAKING THE LANDS, PROPERTIES, WOMEN AND LIVES OF NON-MUSLIMS. Even their stupid version of heaven is a bordello with lots of material shit like virgins, slaves, wine, honey and golden houses. Havent you read the quran not even once in your fucking life? Fucking ignorant fuck.

    And what is this talk of “economic refugees” I hear on tv? shit from arab-invaded north Africa comes in droves to Europe and America, politicians telling us they’re needy so we have to let them alone undisturbed to steal, rape and kill “white European fascists” to their heart’s content.

    • YO Dubai and the other OPEC states won’t accept a single refugee, I promise you that.

      Compare where you live with the standard of living and skyline of Dubai or Abu Dhabi….Trust me, your city is poorer wherever you are from.

      The worst countries in the Muslim world are not-quite-Arab fringe ones-Syria, whose population has some genetic similarity to Sicilians and is Mediterranean/Greek or North Africa which is Afro-Asiatic Berber or Turkey which has heavily Slavic-Greco influences.

    • YO Dubai has a nice skyline and they won’t be accepting any refugees so wherever you are from you can certain the average Arab in an OPEC nation like Dubai or Kuwait has a nicer car, nicer roads, safer schools, taller and new buildings, more money than you do.

      No idea where you are from but trust me, your city does not have as many skyscrapers as Dubai, for example.

      OPEC countries have more money than your county, state or city put together.

    • Whoa! I take it you don’t like Arabs, huh Jewboy?

  20. MALLA India’s economy is totally dependent on workers in India, or at least the economy of Kerala. I’m not pro-Arab but work in the Persian Gulf floats the Indian economy.

    Saudi is not in the Persian Gulf and admittedly you speak the truth.

    Still, Dubai is nicer than Mumbai and many Indians work there for 50 years.

    • Malla

      Ya obviously Dubai is way nicer than Bombay.No doubt about that. Not even in the same league, actually being nicer than Mumbai is not that hard. Tehran and Hanoi are nicer than Mumbai.

  21. Moreover India’s economy is dependent on overseas remissions from the Persian Gulf.

    • peterparker123

      India’s economy is dependent on export of goods to developed countries, and exporting to arab/gulf too.

      Manpower services of their own people.

      This is the organised sector.

      There are unorganised works too which happen.

      Lot of people still do heavy labor job, like carrying people on their shoulders etc.

      • PETER Cochin was built on Western Union payments back to Kerala from Dubai and Kuwait and especially Oman.

        If every Indian was unable to work in the Persian Gulf then India would suffer a blow to its economy.

        • peterparker123

          I know. Those kerala people are biggest immigrants from India, especially to gulf.

          Second ethnic community to migrate are people of coastal andhra.

  22. Jason Y

    Look either the commentators here on Robert’s side and are against superiority as being the criteria for human value or they’re not. Judging from what I’ve seen, most on here are WNs or WN sympathizers and they haven’t repented of this “superiority worship”. So in that case, they don’t really agree with what Robert is saying.

    Of course, perhaps Trash and maybe Barack Thatcher might agree with Robert somewhat, especially Barack.

    So either you’re a socialist or you’re some sort of fascist, though not all fascists are racists.

    • Jason Y

      Case in point, if you’re obsessed with third world birth rates and Muslim terrorism, then chances are, you have the same mentality that Israel (and Apartheid South Africa) has regarding Muslims and NAMS in general. In other words, you view the Muslims and other NAMS as lazy, a threat, and a drain on human resources, and of course losers for not succeeding with money and IQ.

    • Barack Thatcher

      JASON
      I believe there are truth to both arguments. What I object to it’s “let’s deport African-Americans from the U.S.”.
      1. That’s necessary? (lol, no)
      2. Sacrificing Western values/the rule of law in the process is beneficial to Whites and White culture (Lol, no)

      Apartheid was a nasty system, but the country is going to hell post-Apartheid. I think Mbeiki, Mandela, at least encouraged “harmony” and could’ve helped a lot. Zuma is dreadful, but I’m not really that familiar with SA politics.

      • Barack Thatcher

        JASON
        I really fail to see alternative theories to all the evidence regarding HBD. I am truly a “reluctant HBDer” not a closeted racist/nationalist/low-life who pretends to be so.

        I think numbers are key.
        Desegregation in the U.S. was not as big of a deal for standard of living, etc. because NAMs are to this day <30% of the population. But in SA Blacks and Mulattos were 85%ish.

        Now you have “moderate Nationalists” like Stefan Molyneux or Ann Coulter who don’t want to deport non-Whites or repeal the Civil Rights act but say “let’s keep immigration predominately White (or White and Black in Coulter’s case) because that’s just America”…
        now, how would they feel about the Pallies?

        If the Israelis let the Gazans and West Bankists in they’d go from 20% Arab to around 50% over-night. The Jewish culture would take a hit.

        This is really showing that even “light” nationalism- keeping a country 80% of one race can be very, very brutal.

        • Jason Y

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          blockquote>Desegregation in the U.S. was not as big of a deal for standard of living, etc. because NAMs are to this day <30% of the population. But in SA Blacks and Mulattos were 85%ish.

          Well, like Robert was explaining, the whites were trying to run a nigger plantation. It just doesn’t work. Now, of course, white people should side with oppressed white South Africans. Nonetheless, there is a little bit of karma going on with the whites.

        • Jason Y

          Sorry mistake in HTML

          Desegregation in the U.S. was not as big of a deal for standard of living, etc. because NAMs are to this day 30% of the population. But in SA Blacks and Mulattos were 85% ish.

          Well, like Robert was explaining, the whites were trying to run a nigger plantation. It just doesn’t work. Now, of course, white people should side with oppressed white South Africans. Nonetheless, there is a little bit of karma going on with the whites.

          ALSO, as you mentioned the whites were vastly outnumbered starting in the 19th century when blacks started invading from the north. Therefore, the whole Apartheid deal was a lost cause from the get-go.

        • BARACK DEPORTATION QUERY????

          Trump is the son of a German-born immigrant like most white Americans from the Northeast States who immigrated from 1880-1930.

          How is he going to justify deporting 11th generation Tejas Spaniards whose cleric ancestors ran missions or African-Americans who have been in the U.S. since 1600 and half an Amerindian great-grandmother?

        • Barack Thatcher

          TRASH
          He has no intention of doing that, and it would be difficult to send most African Americans back (repeal the 14th amendment). But foreign born non-Whites could be stopped of citizenship, they weren’t covered by the 14 amendment but just by the immigration act of 1952.

        • Barack Thatcher

          TRASH sadly many people believe this.

          On Stormfront and other more hardcore WN sites they wish to deport anyone not 7/8+ Gentile European. They’d seek to deport you if you were still here (1/4 European Jew is enough to be “non-White” to them).

          Even I would have to submit to a DNA test because I’m ‘suspect’ as being 1/8+ non-White (I have brown hair, not Black)

        • Jason Y

          TRASH
          He has no intention of doing that, and it would be difficult to send most African Americans back (repeal the 14th amendment). But foreign born non-Whites could be stopped of citizenship, they weren’t covered by the 14 amendment but just by the immigration act of 1952.

          Trump is a joke. I’d doubt if he’d do better than Carter. Plus if he tries to deport illegals and look all tough, then he will just provoke riots and Trump has typical Jimmy Carter support from congress etc.., so nobody will help him.

        • Jason Y

          Well, Trump seems to have support from Congress now, being that it’s all Republican, but I suspect elites will sabotage the economy or Trump’s own foolishness will do it.

      • Jason Y

        The collapse of Israel would also lead to hell, maybe even genocide of the Jewish residents. No doubt the place would be less advanced than the place before it. However, as Robert said, the people are not concerned with money. They just don’t want to live on a plantation.

        I saw this in South Korea too, constant complaining about being a colony, despite being rich. So many Americans see them as ingrates cause we are defending their nation, yet always an attitude. So the only conclusion you can draw is they prefer freedom over comfort. That’s why so many of them side with North Korea despite the fact the place is tyrannical and starving, at least North Koreans are not controlled by rich condescending foreigners. (Freedom from condescending foreigners, not necessarily real freedom as the North Korea has none)

        It does seem like a ridiculous attitude, but you see it everywhere. It was true in France under De Gaulle, in the Vietnam War. You see it in Yuppie families who over parent their children and then later comes a backlash.

      • Many white Canadians would like to see their Indians sent straight back to Mongolia or Siberia: like blacks in the States who were there before Trump’s German grandfather heard of the U.S. it is first come.

      • BARACK Only the wealthy whites will leave the U.S. if it declines. Many have.

        I personally have lived in Asia for 20 years and not missed the U.S. for a single day. Crime is lower here, you can get the same medical care, Asians are quieter and more mellow, property cheaper.

        It is the minorities who will not leave the U.S. because they lack the money or imagination.

        More and more retirees of both sexes are moving to Asia.

  23. Barack Thatcher

    JASON/ROBERT
    I suspect Saudi Arabia never really did the Ba’athist-Socialist thing quite as well; they still have a royal family do they not?
    They’re allies with Israel as well.

    Taking in the Palestinians would hurt badly because most of the citizenry is not well off; wealth is vastly unequally distributed.

  24. Barack Thatcher

    MALLA
    What do you think abortion is in the U.S.?
    There are tapes where USA President Richard Nixon speculates that Whites were suddenly more open to abortion because of desegregation.

    As for birth control I’ve heard Puerto Rican women were unknowingly sterilized as their economy went sour mid century (I’m not familiar with factors behind this).

    • BARACK

      You’re own societies are a poor mulatto/mestizo and small rich Gallego elite population pyramid anyhow.

      Cuban blacks will have 4 kids and live in poverty. Gallegos women will work in a bank and have 2-3 at age 30 when married to a solid provider.

  25. JASON Y / BARACK

    STUCK = F8CKED Some differences

    British South Africans left. Once the wealthier whites with 1.4 children and two white-collar parents sell every house and leave that is it for the economy. Poor whites who drove buses and 4 kids could not leave so like the poor whites in U.S. cities they are screwed.

    *S.A. Africans are not urban-based. They are the natives and live both in the wilderness and in the cities. White flight from the city cannot help you much. S.A farmers are at equal risk.

    British South Africans left quickly, taking their money with them. Physical action speaks loudest.
    Mestizo psychotics are everywhere but less so in the rural areas and they regard Whites as being like “Indios”-native people who live out in the country and have no relevance to them. As long as their barrios are avoided they care less.

    *America has vast exurbs and rural areas (These are hit hard by economic conditions however) where whites are 1,000 miles away from the cities.

    U.S. NAMS are HARDCORE urban people. Perhaps a few Bloods or Eses did some judge-sentenced time in Army Motor Pool but most could not set up a tent or would want to sleep in it.
    They don’t want to skulk around dirt-road America where whites live because they would get their shoes dirty, be far away from their underground economic livelihoods of strip clubs, crack-houses, fencing operations, stolen vehicle shop shops, pawn stores, beauty parlors, prostitution strips, illegal arms dealing operations, gambling joints…GIVE UP ALL THAT TO GROW WHEAT ON A FARM IN KANSAS?

  26. Barack Thatcher

    TRASH that’s correct, rural areas just aren’t as attractive for them, yet they’re convinced NAMs are going to rustle their cattle, so to speak.

    It relates to the “nationalist” worldview that Podunk, USA is the center of the universe just because it is x “nationalist” ‘s hometown and he’s not ventured far from it.

    In W.V., the youth is Whiter than everyone overall. That should speak volumes.

    • BARACK Pray tell what is there to “take over” in Podunk, USA?

      • Barack Thatcher

        TRASH your average “White Nationalist” from Podunk USA;
        1. Average IQ 85-90
        2. High School dropout, drug conviction time in Jove as a member of a skinhead gang.
        3. Has never left their state

        You can’t expect these people to be think logically.

        • BARACK

          No Hispanic or black much less a Muslim or Northwest European would “invade” these places or seek to immigrate there if you paid them minimum wage.

          What’s the job market down to there? Wearing a HAPPY BURGER Hat or peddling Oxy or a prison guard uniform?

          Gee, that’s a Land of Opportunity.

          I’m no genius myself but the most basic Kindergarten logic would dictate that this is hardly where Abdullah wants to leap off a boat to swing his scimitar.

        • Malla

          I would bet that the vast majority of the world is still worse off than those redneck places. Besides migrants now a days do not come to work but to get some form of welfare.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income
          The percapita income of the poorest US state: Mississippi (I am not considering bankrupt Puerto Rico) $36919.
          From
          http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=67
          Per capita income of India:$4000
          Nicargua: $4500
          Nigeria: $2800
          Yemen:$2500
          Indonesia: $5200
          Uganda:$1600
          Egypt:$6500
          Brazil:$ 12,100
          Congo:$400

          Yes those red neck places are crap but a large swathes of the brown black world is super crap.

        • Jason Y

          36,000 in Mississippi is good money. It’s also incredibly good money for a single person. What are they complaining about?

          Possibly they are complaining because people always are comparing themselves to the Jones’ down the street. If people in Yuppie areas of California make 100,000, then 36,000 seems third world.

        • Jason Y

          I’ve always wondered why Mississippi is so poor when it’s neighbor Texas has always been so rich. Possibly Texas drains all the educated workers out of Lousiana and Mississippi.

        • Jason Y

          Ironically, Mississippi used to be one of the richest states. However, it was smashed by the Civil War and the UK etc.. began to buy cotton from India and Egypt.

          Note that’s also the reason they wouldn’t come to the Confederacy’s side in the war.

        • Jason Y

          I think the biggest problem and this may warrant another blog post is “Should evolution dick-tate 😆 economic and social policy? Generally American individualists, fascists etc.. believe the vast NAM population needs to die because they have failed at evolution, being lazy, not faring well with American individualism. Note, even black athletes who obviously aren’t lazy are also bad, as they don’t have brains to match up with the 100 or above crowd.

          Well, anyhow, the argument is irrelevant cause the right-wing cannot stop the NAMS, unless they resorted to using WMDs. As noted before, the NAMS don’t care about right-wing thinking and view the right as the enemy.

    • Jason Y

      TRASH that’s correct, rural areas just aren’t as attractive for them, yet they’re convinced NAMs are going to rustle their cattle, so to speak.

      It relates to the “nationalist” worldview that Podunk, USA is the center of the universe just because it is x “nationalist” ‘s hometown and he’s not ventured far from it.

      In W.V., the youth is Whiter than everyone overall. That should speak volumes.

      Well, to a small-town white boy, his view is the same as some foreign NAM who thinks his world is the center of the universe. However, key differences being:

      Some small-town whites will go on Facebook, Fox News, and Stormfront complaining NAMS, worldwide, are lazy parasites who fail at American individualism.
      The fact remains the NAM worldview is more important because there are more of them. There are more NAMS and they generally favor collectivism.

      3.Pockets of assholes remain in various NAM nations who agree with Ameican individualism to some point, like high caste Hindus or upper-class Latin Americans.

      The fact NAMS worldwide love Michael Jackson or Lionel Richie, but hate Joe Smith Republican from Podnick USA or W. Bush says a lot. “Gosh those ungrateful niggers always wanting a handout that I have to work for !!”

      • Jason Y

        Sorry placed under wrong comment:

        from Jason Y.

        I think the biggest problem and this may warrant another blog post is “Should evolution dick-tate😆 economic and social policy? Generally American individualists, fascists etc.. believe the vast NAM population needs to die because they have failed at evolution, being lazy, not faring well with American individualism. Note, even black athletes who obviously aren’t lazy are also bad, as they don’t have brains to match up with the 100 or above crowd.

        Well, anyhow, the argument is irrelevant cause the right-wing cannot stop the NAMS, unless they resorted to using WMDs. As noted before, the NAMS don’t care about right-wing thinking and view the right as the enemy.

      • Jason Y

        Note, I do agree with personal responsibility like most Republicans, but I think the whole right-wing message is so condescending and pompous that it drives the NAMS away, while Michael Jackson’s Heal the World causes whole crowds to chant in unison at concerts. 😆

        Note this is true despite Michael’s child molestation allegations.

        • Barack Thatcher

          I do agree with personal responsibility like most Republicans

          I suppose everyone who lives, by definition, takes some personal responsibility in not getting themselves killed in someway.

          It is an overused type of statement, however. No level of “personal responsibility” is enough to pay high prices for healthcare if your family is uninsured as a child. It means your status is the status of your parents.

          Now, with that being said, it’s great that Alt-Reicher loves to defend poor Whites (no sarcasm) but it is BLATANTLY HYPOCRITICAL that they do a complete 180 on NAMs, with lots of vitriol to boot.

          I think they’re just innately incapable of understanding his irony. Neoliberals get it, at least the ones the media; a ‘we know but we don’t care’ ideology.

          What a 105 IQ versus a 90 IQ can do; a brutal illustraion.

        • Jason Y

          What is Robert actually saying? Actually, I just said what he was saying. What do you see that’s different?

        • Jason Y

          Sorry above comment addressed to Phil.

        • Jason Y

          Again, it’s more family favoritism. It’s like saying my boy is angel when he throws eggs at a neighbor’s house, all the while bashing another kid does the same.

        • Jason Y

          It reminds me of these really racist wigger assholes who do everything ghetto blacks do, but their redneck moms hate blacks (and so do the wiggers) calling them names and accusing other people acting “nigger”.

      • “Some small-town whites will go on Facebook, Fox News, and Stormfront complaining NAMS, worldwide, are lazy parasites who fail at American individualism.”

        Exaggerated? True. Not reflecting an actual problem? False.

        “The fact remains the NAM worldview is more important because there are more of them. There are more NAMS and they generally favor collectivism.”

        More important because there are more of them? I’m not seeing your point how simply because there are more NAMS that makes their centrism more important.

        Also you say “collectivism” but what does that actually mean in a moral context, cultural collectivism as a means to be efficient or by a means to be clannish with others? With NAMs that currently go into the U.S from non elite classes what is usually the issue? See Roberts point with illegals.

        Note, Robert only claimed such a history with Arabs, not NAMS in general.

        “3.Pockets of assholes remain in various NAM nations who agree with Ameican individualism to some point, like high caste Hindus or upper-class Latin Americans.”

        And they are the only problematic ones?

        “The fact NAMS worldwide love Michael Jackson or Lionel Richie, but hate Joe Smith Republican from Podnick USA or W. Bush says a lot. “Gosh those ungrateful niggers always wanting a handout that I have to work for !!””

        I’m fairly sure that’s a non-sequitor.

        • Jason Y

          Robert is the one who brought up the idea that NAMS worldwide don’t care about the superiority-obsessed culture of right-wing whites.

        • Correction, he said that in this situation of Israel, the Arabs have a cultural economic history were they don’t care that developed into a socialist culture.

          He said that with Blacks in Slavery and in South Africa that they don’t have the same values of wealth that Whites have and place that over their freedom. That does not mean that they themselves base that off a socialist culture like Arabs as Robert contends.

          Also that is irrelevant because he didn’t say “they are collectivist thus they have a better worldview” because that would go against his points on white society, immigration, white workers, and other issues he has talked about in the past that would overlap with such an assertion.

        • Jason Y

          No, that worldview is better according to his opinion, or he’d be siding with Apartheid South Africa and Israel, which obviously in this article and others he is not.

        • I’m not saying which is better, I’m clarifying what he actually said versus what you are saying.

          He said that the socialist view of people like Arabs, or the view of Black slaves or South Africans are incompatible with the libertarian/fascist views of Jews and Whites in those given situations, not that NAMs all have that view making theirs better.

          Also you weren’t merely talking about worldviews, you were comparing cultural centrism between different groups and claiming which was better. Centrism is more comprehensive than the economic worldview you are talking about, weighing in other cultural traits and behaviors.

          With that criteria, Robert didn’t say NAMs were better overall, he said that in the Fascist oppressive regimes that their value of freedom was better.

        • Jason Y

          No, Robert thinks socialism is a better system. Otherwise, he’d side with Israelis and Apartheid South Africa.

          Note, Robert does on occasion stick up for white racists, and sometimes I agree with it, but overall he is a socialist and that whole scene doesn’t mix well with the attitude on Stormfront, or the more sanitized PC version you hear on Fox News. Either you think superiority measures human value or you don’t.

        • “No, Robert thinks socialism is a better system. Otherwise, he’d side with Israelis and Apartheid South Africa.”

          Reread what I’ve actually said. If you can’t for some reason I’ll summarize it.

          Socialism=/= NAMs WV since Arabs+Slaves+SA Blacks=/= All NAMs.

          “Note, Robert does on occasion stick up for white racists,
          and sometimes I agree with it, but overall he is a socialist and that whole scene doesn’t mix well with the attitude on Stormfront,”

          And that’s not what I’m disagreeing with, I’m talking about your generalizations and how they are different from what Robert is actually saying.

          “or the more sanitized PC version you hear on Fox News. Either you think superiority measures human value or you don’t.”

          And lets go over with what I’m actually saying.

          First, you talk about white claiming NAMs to be parasites that can’t assimilate. I said that would be exaggerated, but it did reflect an actual issue that Robert sided against it’s loose promotion such as with Immigration in the US and Europe.

          You then went on making generalizations with NAMs, making their centrism more important than those of whites despite Robert not associating those socialists traits with NAMs generally, rather that they were present in certain relations under oppressive regimes.

        • Jason Y

          Sorry, it was under wrong comment:

          From Jason Y.

          What is Robert actually saying? Actually, I just said what he was saying. What do you see that’s different?

          OK, you did give some reasons why, but you’re making it too complex. Robert said what he said, and what he said basically was, “Arab NAMS (and this could be expanded to most other NAMS) are collectivist and he (Robert) thinks that’s great, and Israelis and South Africans are high IQ people obsessed with money and superiority, and he is opposed to them.”

        • “OK, you did give some reasons why, but you’re making it too complex. Robert said what he said, and what he said basically was, “Arab NAMS (and this could be expanded to most other NAMS) are collectivist”

          And that extrapolation on your part is where you fail. Show where in that article that he implies that all NAMs are collectivist outside of the Arabs you described.

          When talking about blacks he was talking about freedom, not collectivism.

          “and he (Robert) thinks that’s great, and Israelis and South Africans are high IQ people obsessed with money and superiority, and he is opposed to them.”

          Accept South Africa currently isn’t under Apartheid so in the case of South African whites that would be a “were”.

          Finally he’s talking about these mindsets in particular situations, like one being under the regime of another. So not only could you not extrapolate the qualities of one to the other, but neither could you extrapolate one mindset to another.

          For example, you bringing up minorities being blamed for “leeching” off of white countries were Robert in that regard does agree that due to their behavior immigration should be limited with immigrants past a certain skill level.

        • Jason Y

          Well, as far as Robert is concerned, he might stick up for white South Africans sometimes, but he made it clear that Apartheid was wrong due to the theory he stated in this post. Obviously, if he thought apartheid was wrong, then he does somewhat cheer the present situation there. Yes, the place went downhill in many aspects, the point is, the NAMS there are free to do what they want.

        • “Well, as far as Robert is concerned, he might stick up for white South Africans sometimes, but he made it clear that Apartheid was wrong due to the theory he stated in this post.”

          That’s not what I even disputed.

          “Obviously, if he thought apartheid was wrong, then he does somewhat cheer the present situation there.”

          While against the historical racism, show me where he even somewhat cheers the current situation specifically on a racial level.

          ” Yes, the place went downhill in many aspects, the point is, the NAMS there are free to do what they want.”

          Yes, free to do what they want and pretty much wreck the infrastructure, reverse discrimination towards whites, etc.

          “More than 400,000 white South Africans are thought to live in poverty. The country’s population is about 50 million.
          Those living in squalid conditions are forced to survive on around £28.99 a month.
          The squatter camp in Munsieville, near Johannesburg, is one of 80 across South Africa. It is built on the site of an old dumping ground and is home to around 300 people, of which a quarter are children.
          There is no electricity, no running water apart from a couple of standpipes, no secure structures and little food.
          Houses are typically built with bare earth floors, but frequent floods wash away the topsoil and leave decades-old waste exposed.
          Hospitals refuse residents care and those living at the camp are regularly rebuffed by potential employers at job interviews. ”

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3462336/The-white-squatter-camps-South-Africa-home-hundreds-families-enduring-terrible-poverty-blame-fall-Apartheid.html

          Should they be persecuted themselves, no. However that pretty much shows why your black and white idea “collectivist NAMS” doesn’t work.

        • Jason Y

          Phil is making an incredibly poor argument here

          Yes, free to do what they want and pretty much wreck the infrastructure, reverse discrimination towards whites, etc.

          Robert is no dummy. He already knows that. But he still said that was the price of freedom. Indeed, the price of freedom in Palestine (destruction of Israel) too would be a nation that is vastly inferior in every way to modern Israel.

          What your arguing, a common WN argument, is that the world must have stability and prosperity on the level of white nations, and people having mediocre civilizations, main due to IQ, isn’t a good thing. That’s why on Stormfront they constantly argue very pompous, condescending arguments about how blacks were so much better off being enslaved and sent to the New World, especially the US.

          Note South Africa has major problems, but the nation can improve. But it will probably never be like Apartheid South Africa in terms of stability and prosperity. However, the old South African nation only had that stuff at the cost of NAM slavery (police state, segregation).

        • “Robert is no dummy. He already knows that. But he still said that was the price of freedom. Indeed, the price of freedom in Palestine (destruction of Israel) too would be a nation that is vastly inferior in every way to modern Israel.”

          Except that would only make my argument poor if I was arguing against Apartheid being lifted, rather what I’m talking about is the real value of “worldviews” in proper contexts.

          My point with the ethnic relations in SA is that you can’t simply say a certain group worldview is “better” by taking it out of context as you are doing.

          “What your arguing, a common WN argument, is that the world must have stability and prosperity on the level of white nations, and people having mediocre civilizations, main due to IQ, isn’t a good thing. That’s why on Stormfront they constantly argue very pompous, condescending arguments about how blacks were so much better off being enslaved and sent to the New World, especially the US.”

          NO, that’s not my argument. My argument is that you are hasty in accurately assessing “Worldviews” and “centrisms” to groups in general.

          “Note South Africa has major problems, but the nation can improve. But it will probably never be like Apartheid South Africa in terms of stability and prosperity. However, the old South African nation only had that stuff at the cost of NAM slavery (police state, segregation).”

          Again, saying things was better under Apartheid is not my contention. My point is that you were taking Roberts points on group values out of context saying “NAM’s WV is better than White’s WV”.

          Here’s what you said

          “Some small-town whites will go on Facebook, Fox News, and Stormfront complaining NAMS, worldwide, are lazy parasites who fail at American individualism.
          The fact remains “the NAM worldview is more important because there are more of them*. There are more NAMS and they generally favor collectivism.

          And my point is that you sloppily mischaracterized NAM WV with NAM actions in certain scenarios.

          And regarding South Africa, you sort of glossed over the issues That I pointed out, Just because it’s in respects to blacks preferable over an apartheid, doesn’t make a good standard for a country especially when they aren’t the only ones.

        • Jason Y

          What are you trying to argue? That all NAMS don’t share the view that money and a 1st world standard of living are not important? Well, your right. A minority of them don’t. However, the majority of them do.

        • “What are you trying to argue? That all NAMS don’t share the view that money and a 1st world standard of living are not important? Well, your right. A minority of them don’t. However, the majority of them do.”

          Specifically, that they don’t have those traits actually developed in a socialist like Robert claimed with Arabs.

          Another thing I disagree with is that this alone makes their centrism better when that would be composed of other factors as well.

          See what I mean here.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/08/01/be-careful-what-you-wish-for-blacks/

        • Jason Y

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          blockquote>Again, saying things was better under Apartheid is not my contention. My point is that you were taking Roberts points on group values out of context saying “NAM’s WV is better than White’s WV”.

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          Of course, you think Apartheid SA was better, and so do I. If you’re looking at stability, crime, and standard of living, then of course, it was better. But again, as Robert was saying, the NAMS were not free.

        • “Of course, you think Apartheid SA was better, and so do I. If you’re looking at stability, crime, and standard of living, then of course, it was better. But again, as Robert was saying, the NAMS were not free.”

          When I said better, I meant for Blacks.

          My point of looking at stability was to show that you can’t extrapolate worldviews of people as general as you put them in the situations that Robert explained by shifting it to the situation of “parasitic NAMS”.

        • As well, I wasn’t just looking at stability, but also social relations with whites which supported my case of looking at centrism in total.

      • JASON

        NAMS paint graffiti on physical walls not virtual ones. They live in the real world.

        NAMS do not post on FACEBOOK or other internet sites because they live in a material world and have a commerce of illegal drugs, stolen goods, sex workers, clothing stores and pawn shops, chop shops etc. etc.

        So they are preoccupied with money.

        Small-town whites do not even have a thriving underground economy. There is no commerce at all, whatsoever.

        • Mike

          Why worry about squatter camps of a few whites who deserved that after inhuman conditions they made it for blacks in their own land. When you force the natives to live as a second rate citizens you will have to endure the same thing once they gain power. Nothing amusing here. It’s not as if the Afrikaners are the only ones suffering through out the world. Take the case of North Africans rohingyas what Afrikaners have pales out in front of what these people are enduring.

        • “Why worry about squatter camps of a few whites who deserved that after inhuman conditions they made it for blacks in their own land.”

          So you’re saying that the families today that were vulnerable to the economic shifts of post-apartheid SA were the ones actually responsible for the policies regarding black oppression.

          Nice to see consistency with you not being a racist yourself.

          “When you force the natives to live as a second rate citizens you will have to endure the same thing once they gain power.”

          So rather than justice towards uplift, the value is in revenge? I see.

          ” Nothing amusing here. It’s not as if the Afrikaners are the only ones suffering through out the world.”

          Just because they aren’t the worst of, that makes the actions against them defensible?

          “Take the case of North Africans rohingyas what Afrikaners have pales out in front of what these people are enduring.”

          Careful, those are Arab supremacist you are talking about.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people#Religion

          Chances are they probably deserved it by your logic.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/africans-are-not-stone-age-people/#comment-282416

          And again, that makes their actions defensible?

        • Jason Y

          “More than 400,000 white South Africans are thought to live in poverty. The country’s population is about 50 million.
          Those living in squalid conditions are forced to survive on around £28.99 a month.
          The squatter camp in Munsieville, near Johannesburg, is one of 80 across South Africa. It is built on the site of an old dumping ground and is home to around 300 people, of which a quarter are children.
          There is no electricity, no running water apart from a couple of standpipes, no secure structures and little food.
          Houses are typically built with bare earth floors, but frequent floods wash away the topsoil and leave decades-old waste exposed.
          Hospitals refuse residents care and those living at the camp are regularly rebuffed by potential employers at job interviews. ”

          That’s a very sad situation obviously and people should be outraged. Perhaps the international community should help these people immigrate or pressure the SA government thru sanctions (as the did with Apartheid) to stop the abuse.

          Nonetheless, all this stuff is mainly a product possibly, though I could be wrong, of South Africa heading into a mediocre existence due to finally being under NAM control. Maybe the government there really cannot help them due to weakness. However, again, the government is weaker because the NAMS are free.

          OK, look at it this way, 400,000 whites are now poor, but I bet a larger portion of the NAM population is still poor. In that case, the whites are not going to get special treatment from a NAM government.

          It’s just the way it is, but I hope, as I explained above, outside government could step in and help out.

          Phil’s only solution would be to return SA to the whip, literally. In that case, yeah, the 400,000 whites would get out of poverty. However, the equal or greater number of poor NAMS would stay in poverty and also lose freedom.

        • Jason Y

          Whites should be sad to see fellow whites in such a state. That’s sort of what Robert was describing when he discussed his hatred of those who bash their own race. Nonetheless, as I explained in another comment, there is some racial bias in the SA government. But it might be just a case of There are a lot of poor people of all races, and we cannot give whites special attention.

        • Jason Y

          If people on Stormfront etc.. were so concerned about white brotherhood, then why don’t they help the white South Africans with real money? There are enough of them to donate and possibly get them all out of the country or back on their feet.

          Such a cause is certainly more noble than something to do with helping cops in Ferguson MO or something. Such projects would be a waste of time given the PC culture in the US.

        • To Jason,

          “Nonetheless, all this stuff is mainly a product possibly, though I could be wrong, of South Africa heading into a mediocre existence due to finally being under NAM control. Maybe the government there really cannot help them due to weakness. However, again, the government is weaker because the NAMS are free.”

          And I never said being free was WRONG, my point was your WV generalizations, see my other response.

          “OK, look at it this way, 400,000 whites are now poor, but I bet a larger portion of the NAM population is still poor. In that case, the whites are not going to get special treatment from a NAM government.”

          Would being accepted to a Hospital be special treatment?

          “It’s just the way it is, but I hope, as I explained above, outside government could step in and help out.”

          Seeing how much the current Black population is actually being helped, I doubt soo.

          “Phil’s only solution would be to return SA to the whip, literally.”

          I’ve literally explained 20 times that I didn’t agree with that.

          “Whites should be sad to see fellow whites in such a state. That’s sort of what Robert was describing when he discussed his hatred of those who bash their own race. Nonetheless, as I explained in another comment, there is some racial bias in the SA government. But it might be just a case of There are a lot of poor people of all races, and we cannot give whites special attention.”

          Given the state of SA in terms of efficiency, I could agree with you last point on the hows and whys.

        • Mike

          “So you’re saying that the families today that were vulnerable to the economic shifts of post-apartheid SA were the ones actually responsible for the policies regarding black oppression.Nice to see consistency with you not being a racist yourself”

          Since you’re so fixated on seeing people as group, this must not offend you as you said you were “black”. Where is the proof that they were not abusive?

          “Just because they aren’t the worst of, that makes the actions against them defensible?”

          No, its a law and order issue not genocide as you paint. Even Robert acknowledges it. Defensible? yes probably, unless it is proven that the rate of extinction is much greater than what they inflicted. Again white nationalistic sources won’t help it.

          So rather than justice towards uplift, the value is in revenge? I see

          Yes revenge is sweet. You should know it better since you take pains in digging up pseudo scientific posts just to berate Chinedu. You are in no position to tell this

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people#Religion

          They are Muslim so what? they are persecuted, are you going to deny it? Don’t bother coming up with your dubious sources to attribute their plight to Jews or blacks. it is the Arabs I was referring to and my point on their religion still stands. But you will feel compassionate to every other group in the world except blacks

        • Mike

          “due to finally being under NAM control.”

          Well Jason, Stop using the term NAMS for south Africans. That is a disparaging term, just keep it here in the states. Blacks are not NAMs in SAF. SAF has a serious law and order problem, only purging a lot black/white ruffians is going to fix it. I wouldn’t mind a police state/military rule to clean up the country(only internal, enough of colonialism)

        • To Mike

          “Since you’re so fixated on seeing people as group, this must not offend you as you said you were “black”. Where is the proof that they were not abusive?”

          Uuumm..were is the proof that these particular families were abusive to justify this treatment you think is deserved.

          “No, its a law and order issue not genocide as you paint.”

          Accept I’ve settled with Chinedu that it’s not genocide. That doesn’t mean you aren’t appealing to revenge.

          “Even Robert acknowledges it. Defensible? yes probably, unless it is proven that the rate of extinction is much greater than what they inflicted. Again white nationalistic sources won’t help it.”

          You know what else Robert Acknowledges? that such behavior is not acceptable.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/10/30/how-common-antiracist-arguments-are-inadvertently-viciously-racist-themselves/#comment-278956

          “Yes revenge is sweet. You should know it better since you take pains in digging up pseudo scientific posts just to berate Chinedu. You are in no position to tell this.”

          Well number one I’ve presented Chinedu with various sources, argued thoroughly, and asked him to refute my points.

          Nowhere can you find me using that data to insult him or attack him because of his race, I even dare you to find me doing such.

          BTW, this was my latest talk with him, yes I truly value revenge over resolution.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/blacks-couldnt-even-build-a-boat-to-madagascar/#comment-282299

          “They are Muslim so what? they are persecuted, are you going to deny it?”

          No, this was just a point towards your hypocrisy regarding racism.

          ” Don’t bother coming up with your dubious sources to attribute their plight to Jews or blacks.”

          Why the fuck would I when they come from South Asia?

          “it is the Arabs I was referring to and my point on their religion still stands. But you will feel compassionate to every other group in the world except blacks”

          You know what….if you really want to see a pathetic fake black READ THIS.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2014/12/22/marx-was-right-
          2/#comment-283330

          And evidence of me not being against blacks, see the links of this comment.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2014/12/22/marx-was-right-2/#comment-283345

          Furthermore, I brought that up because you haven’t answered me in the thread with Gulliver why YOU could generalize Arabs, saying fuck Islam, but it’s wrong with blacks if similar evidence could be brought up.

        • Mike

          You sow hate and bigotry and you’re gonna reap them. This is what happened in SAF. You may justify apartheid and quote thousands of sources supporting this it doesn’t deny the fact that the natives were oppressed by a brutal regime. sort of like what is happening today in North Korea you never knew the exact statistics of the murder during apartheid regime. Racist pricks like Sam brought up dubious sources to justify apartheid regime using fake murder stats. The criminal regimes atrocities were grossly under reported. So it’s not surprising that you fall for the supposed plight of whites given your inherent antiblack hatred.

        • “You sow hate and bigotry and you’re gonna reap them. This is what happened in SAF. You may justify apartheid and quote thousands of sources supporting this it doesn’t deny the fact that the natives were oppressed by a brutal regime.”

          Thanks for ignoring that I didn’t support it.

          ” sort of like what is happening today in North Korea you never knew the exact statistics of the murder during apartheid regime. Racist pricks like Sam brought up dubious sources to justify apartheid regime using fake murder stats.”

          So basically you can’t really reinforce why whites generally should pay in South Africa today and continue to claim that murder stats go unreported the government regime, despite you criticizing me for apparently putting people into groups.

          So those families were the ones murdering people for being Afrikaners, despite groups of Afrikaners being for the fall of the Apartheid?

          http://articles.latimes.com/1990-04-20/news/vw-1197_1_afrikaans-andre-brink-afrikaners

          And thus putting them through “punishment” will bring them back those who were unknown numbers killed?

          You know what, I honestly don’t care what you think of me being “fake”.

          I gave you evidence for otherwise, and I’m sure not going to bend over backwards to prove such to someone who claims to stand on some moral highground yet appeal to tribal ideals of Justice, calling revenge “sweet” towards a bunch of people you probably never even knew, while paired with your own group biases as well.

          So you appeal to unknown stats of Blacks killed during the Apartheid, so if we are to take Robert’s word what can be said about blacks in that regard? You seem to agree with him that regard but I doubt for what he has to say on Black versus white crime rates.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/10/26/the-problems-with-minimizing-black-crime/#comment-278782

          You want to talk stats on murder and the obvious? See murder rates in pretty much most black Countries as well as Malla’s videos on Henry Louis’ Gates Africa.

        • Mike

          Again you go length and breadth feeling for whites largely ignoring “your” tribe. So basically you don’t care how many blacks lost their lives but you are damn sure that reinstating apartheid regime is going to fbring back glorious days for south Africa. That’s glorious coming from someone who calls him black. Don’t flatter yourself that you have buried the hatchet with Chinedu. That response doesn’t indicate anthing of that sorts. HE didn’t bother debunking all the white nationalistic garbage from racerealist and other trashes you posted because it just isn’t worth it. He would have come back and explained if he considered having buried the hatchet with you.

        • “Again you go length and breadth feeling for whites largely ignoring “your” tribe.”

          My “Tribe”? What tribe? Me being black is my ancestry, my “tribe” would be African Americans and even that would be fallacious until you break it down into regions.

          Go to anywhere and Africa and see their points on “tribes” and who to stick with.

          ” So basically you don’t care how many blacks lost their lives but you are damn sure that reinstating apartheid regime is going to fbring back glorious days for south Africa. ”

          Quote me, quote me where I said that. What I said in regards to those murders is whether or not MORE inflicted pain would bring them back.

          IT WON’T.

          “That’s glorious coming from someone who calls him black. Don’t flatter yourself that you have buried the hatchet with Chinedu. That response doesn’t indicate anthing of that sorts.”

          Except that’s basically how he responded to Robert when they had an agreement, to the point that Chinedu even donated to him after *they collided for ages, so this barely means “nothing”.

          We’ve also talked before on similar terms.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/07/02/black-women-and-beauty-by-phil/#comment-264971

          And my point with my point on Chinedu was that we came to an agreement and we’ve exchanged interest where we could both become civil with each other.

          And if we to ever speak again I would keep this in mind.

          “HE didn’t bother debunking all the white nationalistic garbage from racerealist and other trashes you posted because it just isn’t worth it.”

          I’ve asked multiple times to prove bias after he claimed multiple times that it would be easy. I asked him to and he still didn’t hence I hold my stance on HBD.

          “He would have come back and explained if he considered having buried the hatchet with you.”

          That’s fine, but you still have explaining yourself as why you pretend to read my replies as if I’m defend Apartheid when I’m asking whether or not the actions on whites today are defensible and you agreed that they were.

          Now, quote me where I did support Apartheid.

  27. BARACK Florida: Race and Deportation

    Most Cubans are the grandchildren of Celtic Gallegos or Catalan Spanish immigrants and would be the most “pure white Europeans” in Florida.

    Whites in Florida are 12% – 25% Seminole Indian usually on the female side of their family. “Conch” was the word for these children of Brit stragglers from the Bahamas-sailors and farmers-and local Amerindian women.

    If you get past the blonde hair and blue eyes you can see this in “Pine Barren Crackers”: they have flat Mongolian faces, high cheekbones, squint eyes, straight wiry hair.

    • Barack Thatcher

      TRASH
      The Florida Celts will take to ShamRen to rant about ‘muds’ after they break their collarbone in a dirt bike accident and all their Doctors are Jooos or Coobans.

      Never mind that their Mother was 1/4 Indian, they ‘is da Master race’ and hate those dumb Hebrews and wet-backs.
      One of these mofos (presumably not from Florida) said we should build a wall South of Miami…LOL

  28. Barack Thatcher

    TRASH iirc only about 87k Europeans moved to the U.S. in 2014, predominately from Eastern Europe.

    Compare this to 1925-1927 when it was recorded that 138k Europeans- predominately NW entered each year.

    Part of it is probably that WW2 had a “plague effect” with worker right’s and resources, etc. but part if it is cultural, surely.

    • Podunk nationalists would believe people want to invade. Nobody does. The rest of the world long left the U.S. behind.

      West Virginia is not attractive to Scottish immigrants anymore and Pittsburgh is not attractive to Germans. Their quality of life is 1.5 x higher in Europe.

      Eastern Europe is the poorest part of Europe. Maybe life in a dingy apartment in Chicago is slightly better.

      Northwest Europeans will head straight for Australia or New Zealand where health care is free, crime is low, wages are high and streets are clean.

    • BARACK

      Which Scottish national wishes to immigrate to West Virginia and join his distant cousins so he can peddle $5 Oxy pills or wear a Happy Burger Hat for some wage that would not pay to heat some old wooden house?

      Does that seem logical?

      Eastern Europe is not completely white (Mongol influences and Arab/Turkic in the South) anyhow but it is the only place that whites are poorer than the average American white.

  29. MALLA Not many Indian-Americans are on welfare. They manage to obtain some sort of employment through some other Gujarati or Sikh, however menial.

  30. HAITI

    Mestizos and Asians and Blacks and Jews have little love for one another. Unlikely that if the white is removed from this equation that things will even be as nice as Haiti.

  31. Barack Thatcher

    MALLA so what?
    Most SE European countries are better off than the middle eastern migrant countries, yet they still just pass by and head to NW Europe.
    This is the same phenomena as NAMs heading to urban areas in the U.S. and not Stalin Tonk’s God-forsaken neck of the woods.

    • Most Africans in Sicily see it as a bus stop. I agree. They are headed to some country where some form of the Germanic language is spoken.

      Now these places are cold, grey, austere and the food is not as delicious is it?

      However there is work or welfare and some German liberal woman or boy to rape in a public swimming pool.

    • BARACK Greece is that different from Turkey? Sicilians are not half-Arab themselves?

      Immigrants don’t even see these people as white. White to them is the land of rainy streets, cold mornings and bad food.

      Try raping a Sicilian woman in a public swimming pool.

    • Malla

      Well Bangladeshis come in large numbers to India even though India is a shithole but Bangladesh is even worse and poorer. There has been a large cry in India of Bangladeshis coming and conquering territory in India. Everybody here talking about Bangladeshis coming to India and making the country dirty, taking our jobs, being traitors. Many years back, illegal Bangladeshis were sent to the border in cattle cars by Marathi nationalists Shiv Sena to be kicked out of the country.
      Donald Trumpo needs to learn a lot from India.

      http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2010/12/the_great_wall_of_india.html

      Maharastra state which has Bombay
      Shiv Sena’s unit acts against ‘Bangladesh zopadpatti’ in Bhayander
      http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Shiv-Senas-unit-acts-against-Bangladesh-zopadpatti-in-Bhayander/articleshow/18049970.cms

      Shiv Sena’s = Marathi nationalist (semi fascist) party, very popular and has been in power many times. Marathis are the biggest ethnic group in Bombay, the city is the capital of Maharastra state. This party is very popular and any criticism is met with hudlums and mobs beating the shit out of you. It is against non Marathis coming into Maharastra state including other Indians. Attacked South Indians and North Indians in the past.
      zopadpatti = slums
      Bhayander = name of place in Mumbai

      http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/shiv-sena-bjp-govt-launches-operation-in-mumbai-to-push-illegal-bangladeshi-immigrants-back/1/264716.html
      One crore Bangladeshis live illegally in India. The Shiv Sena-BJP Government launches an operation in Mumbai to push them back. The Left says they are Indians.

      http://www.news18.com/videos/india/alerts-1681-633525.html
      BANGLADESHI MIGRANTS BEHIND MUMBAI’S RISING CRIME GRAPH: SHIV SENA

      How could a shithole like India get immigrants? Because people will always go where the quality of life is better and leave their shitier place behind. And guess what? The British nationalst Party struggles to come into power in racist Britain, but in brown man Maharashtra, the local version of the BNP has a history of coming to power with land slide majorities.

      I can guarantee that given a chance, millions of these same Maharastrians will storm into those redneck areas if given a chance because those redneck areas in the USA are heaven compared to Maharastra (which is the most prosperous big state in India BTW). But those same Maharastrians who have migrated and settled in redneck lands and overwhelmed it would still want their Maharastra ethnically pure if given the chance. This is how the world works, ‘My Homeland only for people of my genes and culture, BUT I should get the right to migrate into the homelands of everybody else (if possible dominate, breed, become majority and take over)’.

      • Malla

        Marathi Hindu nationalist Shiv Sainiks and MNS (Maharastra Nav Nirman Sena , splinter group of the Shiv Sena because of family feud in the ruling Thackeray family ) attacking North Indians. Maharatra being the most prosperous big state in India is an obvious destination for migrants from other parts of the country. Earlier they attacked South Indians, now they attack North Indians. Maharastra is Central West India.




        Strangely Maharashtra are a very friendly people by Indian standards.. Others are even more racist. In Gujrat state, it is nearly impossible for a non Gujrati to get a house on rent. In the south in Tamil Nadu state, North Indians are harassed for speaking Hindi and are overcharged on everything by fruit vendors to Taxi Drivers if they do not speak Tamil. The same North Indians will attack the North East Indians. The whole country is a racist mess. If Indians attack other Indians what chance do Africans and other foreigners have.
        Here in South India, Tamils are attacked by native Kannada youths. Bangalore is in Karnataka state and the locals are Kannadas. There is a long river/ water dispute between the two South Indian states of Tamil Nadu and Karnataka

        In the earlier video Kannadas attack Tamils, here Tamils return the favour by attacking Kannad vehicles and people.

        Ohhh, the pleasure of a multicultural society. Diversity is Strength.

      • Malla

        More on the Indo Bangladesh wall. USA has one Donald Trump, here we are all Donald Trumps, a nation of Donald Trumps.


        Illegal immigration is a big issue in many Indian states.
        Donald Trump’s birthday celebration in India. He is very popular in India.

      • Bengali people live on the Indian border, keep in mind. Bangladeshi Hindus have relatives in Calcutta. That line was drawn by the British to separate.

        Bangladeshi people are Muslim and Bengali Indians are Hindu, that is the only difference between them.

        True Dhaka is worse than Calcutta. Not by too much though.

      • MALLA Bangladeshi illegals enter Bengali India where the language is spoken and the only difference is religion (Hindu Bengali Indians).

        Dhaka is poorer than Calcutta, but not by much.

        Bangladeshi illegal immigrants are only in Bengali Indian cities (Where many have relatives) and the language is spoken.

        You’ll never met a Bangladeshi illegal in Punjab, Bangalore or Delhi.

        They are confined to Bengali-speaking states on the Bangladeshi border through which Partition drew a line arbitrarily.

      • MALLA Indians who immigrate to Canada from the Punjab are sorely disappointed immediately and you can read this on the internet.

        They are naive enough to believe that just because they are an engineer they will be hired as an engineer in Canada. They they end up as factory worker or something and are bitterly disappointed.

        Meanwhile, Sikhs in Canada watch in horror as their children descend into prostitution and drug addiction and gang activity in the bad areas they can afford to live.

        If Indians were allowed to immigrate to rural States in the U.S. and did not bring 1 Crore they would simply be on welfare or perhaps take some low-paid job. It might be better than Calcutta or Dhaka-where I have been-but not much.

  32. Barack Thatcher

    TRASH Spain’s official unemployment rate is 19% iirc, ours is 5%.

    Of course the real unemployment rate of both is higher (low growth, low risk monetaristic environment has triggered this).

    Why would someone unemployed from Spain not want to move to the U.S.

    SOCIAL SAFETY NET IN EUROPE

    They also think we’re backwards “Le American Bear” proles.

    • Barack Thatcher

      TRASH Euro-zone has also halted some of this.

      An Italian underclass hitchhikes to England, where they are regarded like NAMs.

      Some Portuguese in Belgium. A friend knows a Spanish national living in Germany.

    • BARACK If you are unemployed in Spain and can still watch television and eat twice a day and drink a bottle of syrupy red wine why go immigrate to Dick’s Knob Kansas to work in I-HOP around fat, coarse, cursing Anglo-Celts who will call you a “Furreinger” or believe you are sum kinda Mehican.

      Even for the unemployed in Europe life is reasonably civilized.

  33. Eugenics

    You probably won’t be poorer than you already are if you never have children but if you have children your children will be poorer than you.

    Government services in the United States are so sub-par that poor people feel they have far less to lose than the son of a junkie prostitute in France who still has a room, food, a television, a bottle of wine, some dope. Perhaps he is slightly worse for wear but this is not the same as the NAM or poor white trying to hitch down the road to some city where he hopes he’ll be hired with a total of $25 in his pocket. If you are a poor person in Western Europe enjoying these luxuries, jail might feel like a bad place. If you are a NAM in the U.S. who slept on the street or at their insane grandmother’s house than how much worse is jail?

    Jail sentences are totally draconian in the United States now because unlike Europe the poor in America no they have no hope for the most part of ever earning more than a living wage so street life is preferable. Therefore the US government has to imprison the poor for many more years. If they get out they’ll commit more crimes.

  34. PETER PARKER

    In point of fact the Aryan whites entering India were MORE ADVANCED than their Central European cousins AT THAT TIME.

    Let’s give the Dravidian Harrappan civilization its due: they were pioneers of maths, astronomy, architecture and even early seafaring. Dravidian people were not and are not stupid.

    Aryans contributed to this but they did not build the first civilization in India.

    • peterparker123

      That I agree. I don’t buy into the theory that dravidians were inferior. I don’t why they have to make such claims.

      Not the first, I think, aryans did not build civilizations in India. And by India, I am talking about the present day lands.

      Problem is that hindutvavadi club everything in sub continent as India.

    • peterparker123

      //Aryan whites entering India were MORE ADVANCED than their Central European cousins AT THAT TIME.//

      SO I think max muellers was right. They were indeed nordic race.

      • PETER Why are lower-caste Indians in Canada and U.K neighborhoods more likely to be in prison than Brahmin or Baniya in Canada or the U.K.

        Visit an Ontario prison: it will be full of lower-caste Indians and Sikhs who are drug dealers, pimps, gangsters.

        But none of these inmates will be Brahmin or Baniya caste.

        No matter WHAT YOU SAY the Indians who are in jail for crimes on the street or youth gangs are lower-caste Indians (Muslims too) and Sikhs.

        Why?

  35. PETER & MALLA White Perspective

    Upper-caste Indians are guilty of many things but being stupid and making bad decisions is the territory of Muslim Indians and low-caste Hindus.

    Thus, they fill the jails of Canada and the U.K. while in the United States the Indian-Americans from the three higher castes prosper.

  36. Barack Thatcher

    JASON
    I’m unfamiliar with this “foreign NAMs view themselves as the center of the world” ideology.
    Why do many (at least the elites of foreign NAMs) watch American politics closely?

    Your average Mexican probably knows more about the American Government than a poor White American does about all other countries in the world combined.

    • Barack Thatcher

      what needs to be done, then how to do it…
      poor Whites fail on both, sadly.

    • Jason Y

      Lots of people around the world watch the US, big deal. However, besides the presidential race or maybe some Hollywood gossip, they don’t care about the USA as it’s miles away.

    • Actually when the Spanish left Mexico as a result of Independence Mexico sank in political awareness and importance.

      Your average Mexican might understand rules that apply directly to his situation or that of Mexicans attempting to immigrate to the United States from Mexico.

      He’d understand nothing about issues of trade with China or the like.

  37. JASON Y South African BREAKFAST CLUB Analogy (Easy to Grasp)

    1985

    John Bender is scared by his principal and one or two other scrapes with the law. He straightens out somewhat and manages to graduate with terrible grades from high school at almost 19 years old in 1985.

    1986

    John joins the army thinking he’ll be an airborne ranger. He is serving two unproductive years when he has a motorcycle accident. He is mustered out and uses his GI Bill to become a floor tile installer.

    He has two children between 20-22.

    1986-1990

    John’s working-class section of the Chicago suburbs was working-class Lithuanian but the manufacturing sector has shifted

    BREAKFAST CLUB’S high school and surrounding are became a welfare town as the globalization hit and the economy became entirely post-industrial. Educated whites moved out and working-class whites like Bender struggle to find jobs as the tax base erodes.

    Crack and then crystal meth are pumped into the surrounding areas. Violence and gang-related activity spikes.

    2000

    Claire and Brian attended university left Illinois in the late 80’s for San Francisco the moment of graduation.

    Andy the Wrestler moved to an upscale suburb as a Sports Therapist.

    John Bender remains in the house his father left him.

    2008

    John Bender’s parent’s house in what was once a working-class Lithuanian neighborhood is not completely NAM.

    His property is worth 20% of what it once was.

    Both children attend the same high school as John did but now the working-class and middle-class whites are a tiny minority.

    John’s son finds John’s marijuana roach (John never got into hard drugs but still smoked pot from time to time) and smokes it at age 13. By 14 he is a stoner. He tries crystal meth at 15 and becomes addicted. He never graduates. Instead of acting like a shop hood as John did he is a “wigger” who calls everyone “Dawg”.

    John’s daughter was molested once by John’s wife’s brother when she was 6. At 17 she is sucking the brown wieners of Hispanics around the school grounds and on one occasion they give her drugs.

    John Bender is now almost 50. He cannot escape his neighborhood because his property is worth nothing. An incompetent series of NAM local politicians run his district incompetently and there was a corruption scandal.

    …Welcome to South Africa and working-class whites in America.

    • Jason Y

      That’s a sad story, but in the case of SA, it was the price of having freedom. Note, it was inevitable in SA, because the NAM majority hated the government and so did all the close neighbors of the nation, even without international boycotting.

      • JASON Y All lip service, anyone with money and qualifications leaves.

        • Jason Y

          Well, of course, “on the up” people don’t want to live in mediocre lands of a 80 to 90 IQ people, or is it lower generally in SA? However, plenty of mediocre societies exist worldwide, but they don’t attract immigrants like the white nations or Israel, cause everyone wants high pay.

        • Jason Y

          Lands such as the new SA aren’t necessarily shitholes, or at least after a rough transition phase they might become way more liveable. However, they’ll never be like high IQ white nations, unless of course, the NAM population is subjected to a police state, which they were in the Apartheid era.

    • Jason Y

      In the case of America, I don’t know really what to say. I mean, often the lower class white women are incredibly racist, some of them, cause they’re afraid of becoming partners to non-whites. Other women, though, actually like NAM men and eagerly want to marry them, adopt their culture, etc..

      Of course, higher class white women or women in rural areas normally don’t have this problem, though a few of them hate NAMS anyway cause of the redneck culture.

      • Jason Y

        In some small towns with few blacks, a few BBWs might date a black guy in town and nobody cares. Generally these women won’t adopt a black culture much even though they are married to one. However, the black guys are often as redneck as the white guys in these places, lol.

      • JASON Y

        How many mixed-blood kids with a White mother on welfare are Eurasian?

        How many Eurasian children from the marriage of a white woman to a Japanese American guy end at SECTION 8?

  38. JASON Y Appalachia’s Hot Women

    Yes, Jason, they are extremely attractive at a young age and soon with child. But there are so many of them that are hot that the young man can hardly confine himself to one. So he skips off to have more.

    • Jason Y

      It may seem racist but in porn I don’t like seeing Slavic faces cause the girls back home are not Slavic, they’re Celtic.

      • Why operate a porn factory in LA paying $1000 a scene to white Celtic girls with dysfunctional backgrounds and baggage when operations are a fraction of the cost in Prague or Budapest and the cheerful peasant girls will smile as two penises 13 inches long DP them?

        Bottom line in Capitalism Jason.

        That’s why the plant moves to Mexico.

  39. JASON Y Global Outsourcing:

    Why pay $1,000 to some hillbilly girl from Ohio you found in L.A. when you can hire beautiful Czech or Russian peasants for $400 who will take your penis in their anus while you stick their head in the toilet.

    Bottom-line globalization is about degradation vs pay and much like the rednecks who were laid off so the plant could go to Mexico where no unions or human rights exist porn has now left LA where in the 1990’s it was still Flyover girls with drug problems.

    Porn equipment is cheap to transport to the Eastern Bloc countries so it is not necessary to shoot anywhere but Prague.

    Homegrown poor white women who used to enter porn grudgingly in Los Angeles from Flyover Land are replaced by Russian peasant beauties who will smile as two huge black penises are in their mouth at the same time.

  40. MIKE/JASON Defining NAMS and Indigenous Response

    The smaller the population of whites, the more trouble they face. In a country like India, they will be forced out eventually.

    Tragically, countries like American and Australia have a very small number of natives. But they are not going to revolt. Too few in number.

    If you live in a country where whites are a minority than eventually there will be a revolt. If these whites cannot get out, either they live a dire life or are killed.

    • Mike

      Trash, But in south Africa boers brought this upon among themselves with apartheid and bigotry. They are responsible for their dire lives. For all their rich talks advising NAMS about assimilating in the west. They have failed to assimilating in a foreign land.

      • British South Africans who were equally culpable escaped the consequences by packing up and leaving South Africa in the 1990’s for Britain or Australia or Canada.

        No White in Africa every intended to assimilate into Zulu or other African culture (Though like Canadian or American rednecks who possessed distant Amerindian blood many Boers themselves were 1/8 or 1/12 black)

        Boers in the working class simply could not leave but whether they were more unpleasant than the British South Africans is a open for debate.

      • MIKE

        Doubtful that any white in South Africa intended to assimilate into Zulu culture.

        Educated and moneyed South African whites left the country. Point blank.

        • Mike

          Trash, nobody wants them to leave. If they had assimilated and treated fellow men as humans we wouldn’t have seen this situation. Alt righters have no problem in advocating NAMS to leave. Why don’t they take a cue from their ownn philosophy?

        • To Mike,

          “Trash, nobody wants them to leave. If they had assimilated and treated fellow men as humans we wouldn’t have seen this situation.”

          Even though the people who have left due to money and resources were more likely to be the ones most responsible and the ones taking the heat now would’ve been the least influential.

          Also, I’m pretty sure these acts that you claim they deserved would go against the constitution’s statements on race relations which I brought up in the past.

          “Alt righters have no problem in advocating NAMS to leave. Why don’t they take a cue from their ownn philosophy?”

          They hang on with the point that whites build the infrastructure, so they would stay in the country and assert that without them SA would be hardly like any other pred. black country.

          They, in turn, advocate NAMS to leave due to similar dysfunction. So in their view, nothing is contradictory.

          Interestingly enough though, a Famous South African White nationalist Arthur Kemp written this which you may find interesting.

          http://www.arthurkemp.com/2013/06/nelson-mandela-nationalist-reappraisal.html

  41. Barack Thatcher

    TRASH
    I do empathize with South African Whites and have non-Black South African family members as well.
    But Mike has a point. Why could South Africans could just not have set up a caste system like Mexico, not this brutal segregation and oppression?

    Not many Whites shouldn’t have objected, there don’t seem to be many poor Whites in Mexico. South Africa was Whiter than Mexico anyway.

    • Barack Thatcher

      Whites would not have objected.

      • Mike

        Barack and Trash, I do not agree with institunalized caste system but what happened in SAF was a defacto caste system almost similar to what we have heard about places like south Asia except it was far more brutal and oppressive. Atrocities were massively under reported and no when law and order situationn is terrible they make all the hallaboloo as if it is a white genocide. I do nott condone what it is happening they need to take out criminal elements root trunk and branch. But then you cannot take this an excuse to justify apartheid was the best thing that has happened there.

      • To Barack,

        While this may’ve been preferable, on what Criteria? Keep in mind, consistent with JS earlier point on Hispanics, the made sure to encompass other people they had under them into a hispanic ethnicity and culture. Then they had a foundation once those people found their place within a culture.

        And to Mike’s point, it was already Caste like but was more distinct from a macro view.

        Basically, from top to bottom, it was British, Boer, mixed, and Black. With mixed and blacks the status may slightly vary with whether or not they spoke dutch. Within the “Afrikaneer Sphere”, there was a better resemblance to Mexican caste in a sensee with the various types of Mixed or assimilated dutch speakers.

        • Barack Thatcher

          Phil- It seems that a sort of ‘natural order’ or a Libertarianistic/social darwinistic society is something that has the potential to create a lot less resentment among the disadvantaged races; they can’t complain of government oppression.
          The main resentment comes from the poor people of the dominant race (regardless of it’s a minority or not). Now, poor Whites in Mexico are non-existent, so that malcontent does not exist. A poor Mestizo sees cousin Juan do well on the standardized tests and gets into college, he’s not kept out of college solely because of his race and his spot given to a White with lower scores (as happened in SA).

          It seems like most NAM-HBDers (Jayman, LOTB, Unmarried Man, etc.) seem to be Libertarian-leaning. It’s in their best interests in some ways. You and Tulio are a rare breed.

        • Barack Thatcher

          PHIL
          Trash has asked why non-Whites put up with all the White Latin American abuse of them.

          I’ve been thinking that a large part of it is that the Smart non-Whites essentially CAN succeed based on their merits and are integrated into the elites. Although there is tons of defacto discrimination (non-Whites are considered ugly, live in poor areas, etc.) the smart non-Whites in Latin America work around it and make it to the top.
          THEREFORE the non-Whites have no leadership, the leadership has all sold out to the White elite…..

          if SA had been set up like Mexico, Nelson Mandela would’ve worked as an upper middle class lawyer in Capetown, making big money defending parliamentarians prostitution charges. He would’ve never gotten involved in protests, etc. Get it?

      • Mike

        Interestingly I do not see any racial hostility in the sports teams despite the quota system. I personally know few rugby Players from Bloemfontein and Capetown who say Players from different races gel well even when they are off-field and enjoy each others company. This racial tension appears to be blown out of proportion by the media. Again there is no denying that criminals regardless of their races must be taken out for the overall good for the country.

    • SEXUAL SELECTION AND ASSIMILATION

      White men seem more capable of intermarrying with Red women than Black women and this is ultimately why Latin America has such a successful racial pyramid.

      White males are less likely to marry with Black females. South Africa simply had two races with little love for one another.

      • Jason Y

        I don’t know about that. Brazil has a big mulatto population, and South Africa also had a mixed population (called coloreds). Note, certain nations like Mexico have no mulattoes, only mestizos because that nation didn’t import massive numbers of blacks (Well, some but not as many as Jamaica etc.)

        • Jason Y

          The south USA would probably have been a massive mulatto area had not white men brought white women with them, and also we must note the ratio of whites to blacks was high in the south USA compared to Haiti etc.

      • Jason Y

        This is sort of a dumb argument, no offense. Actually, the red and white race have little love for each other, unless the white men are overseas stranded with no white women, then they marry red girls.

      • Jason Y

        On another thought, we know a lot of white men are hostile to red culture cause they’re hostile to brown culture. Note in my family which is already heavily mixed with Amerindians we don’t care if someone marries red, but there is outrage if they are black.

        Nonetheless, with the massive anti-Mexican prejudice I’ve seen in my area, I think most families would see dating a brown person with possibly as much repulsion as someone dating blacks.

        The prejudice is ridiculous. Like this whole group of Mexicans came to workout at a gym once, and once they left, some redneck commented to me, maybe thinking falsely I was racist and said, “We are being invaded.”

        Note this white ass-wipe probably goes eats and Mexican restaurants but he’s outraged when large numbers are at his gym.

    • Simple, whites won’t intermarry with black women because of a mutual lack of sexual attractive (Oh sure there is sex but no marriage) and therefore you have two distinct races with little love for one another.

      Mestizos in Mexico seem to despise Indians as much as the Spanish businessman in Mexico City.

    • Jason Y

      Actually, the widespread segregation didn’t start until 1948 when rising numbers of blacks were deemed to be a threat. However, Jim Crow started in 1877 in the US.

    • Jason Y

      Sorry under wrong comment:

      From Jason Y

      Actually, the widespread segregation didn’t start until 1948 when rising numbers of blacks were deemed to be a threat. However, Jim Crow started in 1877 in the US.

  42. Barack Thatcher

    PHIL
    It may be cynical but people look out for themselves firstly.

    Had a ‘meritocracy’ been in place in South Africa, and say the ruling elite was something like
    60% White
    20% Asian
    15% Mulatto
    05% Black
    it would mean that all the high-IQ Blacks would not side with the “rabble rousers” and they were removed from threatening positions to the White establishment!

    The low-IQ types couldn’t manage much on their own, they’d be put down and garner little international sympathy.

    • Barack Thatcher

      A parallel could also be drawn to why the Alt-Right is so disliked by the White upper middle class.

      The Upper Middle Class is living the good life (no reason to side with the alt-righters in the first place) AND they jeopardize their success by siding with them! Therefore they won’t.

      Now, if the JOOOS said “oy vey here’s a law where no gentiles can become lawyers or doctors” then the Whites would have something to gain by siding with the alt right and take notice.

      • Are East Asians really prevented from being surgeons or Irish Catholics?

        JOOS could care less if Neil Armstrong was a JOOO or if their chiropractor is a JOOO.

        JOOS have an average IQ of 115 (Not ingenious but fairly smart) so more of them are likely to be white-collar professionals.

  43. Barack Thatcher

    PHIL
    Jews represent 57% of Doctors iirc. This is defacto.
    Now, if Congress passed a law tomorrow saying “Gentile Whites can represent no more than 43% of the Doctors”, most Gentile Whites would flip shit.Yet they don’t take notice to the numbers now.

  44. BARACK Every single doctor in North Dakota would be Swedish and every doctor in Harlem is black and in L.A. I’d bet many are Asian.

    Now in the South or Flyover States where you have a great many whites whose IQ is probably 95-105 and three Jewish families in town whose IQ is 115-120 the difference is glaring.