Africans Are Not “Stone Age” People

Now I am not defending the United States. It’s actually inferior to Canada, New Zealand or Australian white settler colonies in many ways.

But this is mostly because a great deal of stone-age people were imported as slaves or Spanish soldiers raped Red Women in the Southwest 5 times a day back in the 1700’s to create a vast Mixed underclass.

Please do not call African Blacks “Stone Age people.” That is how the White Nationalists talk. Africans had had agriculture for 12,000 years when they were imported to the US. Stone Age people don’t have agriculture. I get so tired of listening to White Nationalists call Africans Stone Age people.

Agriculture itself rose in Africa. Africans were probably the first humans to practice agriculture.

There was little if any breeding between Spaniards and Indians in the US Southwest. That was all happening south of the border.

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  1. Betty

    The first known humans also lived in east africa ca 2,5 million years ago. From there they spread all over the world. Africans were also the first ones to make tools out of stones, bricks, etc.

    • Genetically speaking though they were Different from what we actually refer to as “West/central” Africans. The would be closer technically to Eurasians genetically but geographically yes, they were Africans based the research supporting OOA.

      Also some sites that show early implication of neolithic techniques to be foundations of future cultures.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kintampo_Complex

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nok_culture

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhar_Tichitt This one in particular I believe is connected to pearl millet and eventually “red” West African Rice domestication.

      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/269674882_Zilum_A_mid-first_millennium_BC_fortified_settlement_near_Lake_Chad Possibly a predecessor to Sao.

      https://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/tag/rock-art/ Neolithic adoption of patrolism of those like to be modern chadic peoples.

    • GulliverFredrich

      The problem is that Whites or White Indo-Europeans never actually came to creating basic farming or formal agriculture on their and they never historically practiced it, when they were on the Central Asian and Siberian steppes. Hell even the Greco-Romans were saying various Indo-European tribes did not even know how to farm or practice formal agriculture, let alone sophisticated towns and cities (Scythians, Sarmatians, Seres etc etc).

      They had to be FORCED TO ADOPT IT, via contact with civilizations and peoples in mid latitude to equatorial climates. For the vast majority of the BC and AD era, many White Indo-European peoples were illiterate brutish backwards horse nomads like the Huns and Mongols, who did not practice formal farming, let alone having cities and towns…

      • So This is you way of trying to boost up blacks, focusing on a section of history and beat down others?

        Yeah. lets forget the progress they made later on top of the general stagnation that Africans faced from mere neolithic practices (hint, farming skills changed since then) up to now.

        Also, Greco-Romans WERE Indo-europeans by language (look up the Italici for instance).

      • http://www.eupedia.com/europe/celtic_trivia.shtml

        Show me a similar list with Africans (as in Native Sub Saharan ones without influence of other peoples) with contributions of horses or Iron to europe. I won’t go into detail why using “egypt” is bunk.

        https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/the-birth-of-the-caucasian-race/#comment-272129

        I mean I certainly could as I didn’t learn history through the lenses of Afrocentrism.

      • Huns and Mongols were from China.

        Scythian peoples who are now the Sikhs of India were brutish nomads.

      • GulliverFredrich

        Ok well here is the issue here, and this is the big elephant in the room THAT NO ONE has addressed on this blog post or any other post previous to this one, in issues relating to race.

        WHY, OH WHY, CAN WHITE PEOPLE ON THIS GODDAMN PLANET, ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ALBINOS AND NOT AN ACTUAL RACE OF PEOPLE?

        Why is it so hard for people to accept the notion and idea that Whites are albinos and not a race of people, when there is so much, SO MUCH evidence proving this notion and idea, that they are? Modern day White Europeans are the specific combination of Black African albinos from West/North Africa, CROSS-BREEDING WITH INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN ALBINOS (referred to as the INDO-EUROPEANS/INDO-ARYANS) in differing %’s across the different regions of Europe across different time periods, to produce the modern White European groups we know of today.

        The genetic and scientific and medical evidence garnered so far, as well as archeological and historical clues seems to pin point to this reality and fact. I mean it’s so obvious that modern Whites are albinos and not a race, and the clues are just so obvious, that I don’t know if I should post the mammoth gargantuan evidence on here since people here seem to completely miss the obvious and it would take too much of my time, that I don’t know if it’s worth it……

        • Theory is incorrect and hard to accept because Albinos do not have the features whites and some North Indians possess-green or blue eyes etc.

          You’re quite ridiculous.

        • Okay, lets go over the fallacy you make within your own logic as I’ve already refuted you in facts.

          “Modern day White Europeans are the specific combination of Black African albinos from West/North Africa, CROSS-BREEDING WITH INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN ALBINOS (referred to as the INDO-EUROPEANS/INDO-ARYANS) in differing %’s across the different regions of Europe across different time periods, to produce the modern White European groups we know of today.”

          Seeing how they are are mixture between TWO DIFFERENT races with “albino” traits, breed within the confines of a geographic area for a long time ON TOP of varying in specific ancestry within each other, that pretty much earns them at least the title of a genetically distinct population in some sense.

          Even if what you said is true, exactly how does that refute their feats in history that I highlighted?

          It really speaks alot about how you think how instead of answering my question you wasted two comment ranting to what adds up to a non sequitor, a nonfactual one at that.

          Tell, where in “NW Africa” did Europeans emerged from because most genetics point to NE Africa.

        • GulliverFredrich

          @Trash

          Whites are albino’s and EXHIBIT ALL THE SIGNS OF ALBINISM! THEY CARRY FOUR OF THE ALBINISM GENES IN MUTATED FORM (SLC24A2, TYR, TYRP1, OCA2) TO BE CONSIDERED FULL CANDIDATES FOR ALBINISM!

          White europeans themselves are OCA-2 to OCA-7 albino’s while the albino’s that White Europeans supposedly produce is OCA-1 albinism.

          There are 14 types of albinism in total if you look it up but there is heaps of genetic evidence proving that White Europeans are not a race but are basically the result of Africans and Indians breeding together with albinism.

          WHITES ARE OCA2-OCA7 ALBINO’S! THEY CARRY FOUR OF THE ALBINISM GENES IN MUTATED FORM, SLC24A2, TYR, TYRP1, OCA2 TO BE CONSIDERED FULL CANDIDATES FOR ALBINISM IDIOT!

          OCA2 STANDS FOR OCCULATANOES ALBINISM TYPE 2,THIS TYPE OF ALBINISM RESULTS IN BLONDE/RED HAIR, BLUE/GREY EYES, AND PALE SKIN IN OTHER RACES BESIDES WHITE EUROPEANS BUT WHITE EUROPEANS HAVE THIS GENE!

          THEREFORE WHITE EUROPEAN ARE ALBINO’S BECAUSE IT’S THIS VERY SAME GENE IN WHITE EUROPEANS THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR BLUE /GREY/GREEN EYES, LIGHT/PALE SKIN, AND BLONDE/RED/BROWN HAIR!

          THE OTHER GENE THAT THEY HAVE SLC24A2 ALSO WORKS WITH THIS GENE TO CREATE LIGHT/PALE SKIN WHICH IS A SIGN OF ALBINISM, WHEN THIS GENE DOES THIS AND GIVES PALE/WHITE SKIN!

          A broken HERC2 gene results in blue eyes, a broken P-gene/HERC2 gene also creates albinism and ocular albinism in those who inherit! HERC2 variants that produce blue eyes/grey eyes also work in tandem with OCA2 to create blue/light eyes, WHICH AN ALBINISM VARIANT OF THE GENE AND AN ALBINISM GENE FOR THE SECOND ONE!

          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20944644

          “Although eye color is usually modeled as a simple, Mendelian trait, further research and observation has indicated that eye color does not follow the classical paths of inheritance. Eye color phenotypes demonstrate both epistasis and incomplete dominance. Although there are about 16 different genes responsible for eye color, it is mostly attributed to two adjacent genes on chromosome 15, hect domain and RCC1-like domain-containing protein 2 (HERC2) and ocular albinism (that is, oculocutaneous albinism II (OCA2)). An intron in HERC2 contains the promoter region for OCA2, affecting its expression. Therefore, single-nucleotide polymorphisms in either of these two genes have a large role in the eye color of an individual. Furthermore, with all genetic expression, aberration also occurs. Some individuals may express two phenotypes–one in each eye–or a complete lack of pigmentation, ocular albinism. In addition, the evolutionary and population roles of the different expressions are significant.”

          Scientists SPECIFICALLY LOOK FOR A MUTATED OCA2 GENE (stands of Occulucutaneous albinism type 2, the gene also responsible for blue/grey/green eyes in modern day whites and blonde/red/brown hair and pale skin) in ancient corpses and skeletons, TO SPECIFICALLY SEE IF THEY BELONGED TO WHITE EUROPEAN TYPE PEOPLES OR NOT!

          http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

        • http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

          This article you gave just admitted it occurred through low light levels, being adaptation as you tried to refute. The population were indeed darker skinned, but became lighter through selection as the article says

          “A broken HERC2 gene results in blue eyes, a broken P-gene/HERC2 gene also creates albinism and ocular albinism in those who inherit! HERC2 variants that produce blue eyes/grey eyes also work in tandem with OCA2 to create blue/light eyes, WHICH AN ALBINISM VARIANT OF THE GENE AND AN ALBINISM GENE FOR THE SECOND ONE!”

          Actually, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCA2

          Of the mutations of OCA2 classified as “albinism” as in a condition, blue eyes by HERC2 isn’t one of them and is merely lack of pigment.

          Also, for Albinism to occur, it would have to be directly to the OCA2 but that’s not the case, it’s with the HERC2 gene.

        • To Gulliver,

          The SM link actually said these genes were responsible for lighter skin, not OCA2 mutations.

          “And the new data confirm that about 8500 years ago, early hunter-gatherers in Spain, Luxembourg, and Hungary also had darker skin: They lacked versions of two genes—SLC24A5 and SLC45A2—that lead to depigmentation and, therefore, pale skin in Europeans today.”

          http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

        • TJF

          To Mike:

          You are a racist Phil you pretend to be black boy and bring dubious sourcess to support all your pseudo science.

          He’s already posted his photograph, which certainly looked like a young black man and I believe Phil and Rob have Skyped. Although Phil’s ideas maybe rather uncommon for blacks in the US there are other black people who are into HBD and I’ve never seen him post the sort of rants you typically see from Stormfront types. I’m sure Tulio and Phil disagree on a number of things but all the exchanges I’ve seen between them have been civil. Chinedu is the one who continually lobs verbal attacks towards Phil not the other way around.

        • To TFJ,

          Me and Robert haven’t skyped, but we have indeed exchanged e-mails and he would be aware more about my “deeper” politics than anyone else, so he would know that I’m black.

          BTW, the link Gulliver gave about european “albinism” actually went against what I said.

        • To Mike,

          First of all, none of my sources were even used to degenerate blacks in this thread, if you actually read my original comment to Gulliver it was how

          Second, HE was degenerating whites and going to THESE lengths. The only thing I did with Blacks generally was Jason not understanding Crime Statistics, and South Africa/Zimbabwe didn’t count because I wasn’t arguing against Blacks I was arguing against the efficiency of the way Land Reforms were carried out, as it also hurted exportation as well thus effecting the Country. I wasn’t even against the principal of reforms, but the method used.

          I even said that I COULD bring up a list on Blacks comparable to the one I gave on Indo-Europeans, my intention was to prove how he knew jack shit.

          Third of all, you are no one to just on mass generalization. You haven’t explained why bashing Arabs was more justified then blacks sense you gave no references to support you bias beyond “everyone knows it supports Arab Supremacy”, allowing someone to also say the same of black crime.

          You also used the term typical to refer to Chinese lying, so it’s bullshit you were referring to him specifically.

      • GulliverFredrich

        WHY, OH WHY, CAN WHITE PEOPLE ON THIS GODDAMN PLANET, (CAN’T) ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ALBINOS AND NOT AN ACTUAL RACE OF PEOPLE*

        • Because

          A). There is clear genetic research that differentiates them from other races

          B). If you read my comment on the genetics of Egyptians, you would know that OOA people were genetically closer to Blacks.

          C). Europeans are actually a mix of various Caucasian people and even a light skin versus dark skin one like a southern Italian are closer related than outside population due to most, Sardinians aside, are mixes of the various groups. The fact that there is a skin and hair gradient in Europe sort of disproves you point on “albinos”.

          As far as I’ve seen, all you really did was look at albinos from these population and pretend that all Europeans are very pale and blonde haired.

          Here’s a good place to start learning. http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Race_Face_Plates.htm

          See here about how skin variation actually developed in Europeans (and north east Asians) also.

          http://www.unz.com/gnxp/the-genetic-architecture-natural-history-of-pigmentation/

          Oh, and the thing isn’t just you are doing this with white people as I’ve seen you do the same with Arabs and Mongoloids (you have again with your notes on huns).

        • I meant to correct point B, genetically they were closer to modern Eurasians, not modern SSA people.

          An example would be the Hofymer skull, believed to be representative of OOA descendants.

          https://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/the-hofmeyr-skull/

        • GulliverFredrich

          Oh boy, it’s so easy refuting the stuff that people like Phil throw at me that I just don’t where to begin. I have argued and disproved points and false claims like this again and again and again, that I’m tired of having to deal with these same arguments already now.

          There is zero real actual evidence that Whites are the result of cold adaptation. The reason why some “Whites” in southern Europe appear dark is because they assimilated and mixed with Black European type peoples over the centuries and Blacks from North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula area. The apparent darkness is a result of admixture, but it’s pretty much a fact that Whites are albinos and not a race.

          The genetic record and charts simply prove that a White race never existed and is not a distinct race in the genetic sense but rather they are the albinos and albino-non-albino admixtures of various different groups of colored/albino peoples.

          Modern White Europeans are basically the resultant combination OF BOTH AFRICAN AND DRAVIDIAN/INDIAN ALBINOS BREEDING TOGETHER IN NORTHERN EUROPE BEFORE the advent of the Roman empire.

          This is why you find African genetic haplogroups in Northern and Northwest Europe today, in very, very White-looking peoples today. And in Southern Europe, you had bigger populations of Black Europeans historically, hence you get the swarthy looks over there today.

          Northern Europe was historically uncultivated and filled with large forests and swamps and uncharted territory in early Europe, like when the English colonists first arrived to settle North America and reported on the heavily forested and uncultivated lands there.

          The albinos of the first Black African settlers of Europe went to Northern Europe for cooler temperatures, less sunlight, and as a place of hiding and refuge from the first Black European settlers and inhabitants of Europe, who migrated to Europe from Africa via the Gibraltar straits and the Middle East.

          And you can see this in how African genes and African-like traits show up in places like Denmark to Ireland in very White-looking peoples and ethnic groups. It was from Scandinavia and the Baltics where White Indo-Europeans launched their invasions and movements throughout the rest of Black Europe AFTER mixing w/ Euro Black African albino tribes there and took over Europe.

          Take a look at this African albino child in this video about albinism killings in Malawi:

          He sort of looks like a ginger pale Irish boy from Ireland!

          Basically when this happens:

          African+Dravidian/South Asian/Indian albinos breeding together-

          African albinos:

          Indian/South Asian albinos:

          https://www.google.com/search?q=albinos+school+west+bengal&biw=1366&bih=655&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZxZ7f2dvQAhWMLSYKHX4UBjwQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=kJft0xFwBDxpCM%3A

          And add some recent non-White admixture from the earliest inhabitants of Europe as well as from North Africa and the Middle East, then you end up GETTING THIS AS A RESULT:

          And this is reflected in the European genetic record and pool! There is no such thing as “EUROPEAN” genes because the primary genetic haplogroups of modern Europe ORIGINATED FROM OUTSIDE OF EUROPE in different time periods in different places independent and separate from each other and migrated to Europe at different time periods in history, while originating from non-White groups that look nothing like White Europeans on the surface.

          But since the albinos of the carriers of European genetic haplogroups and genes OUTSIDE OF EUROPE LOOK LIKE AND RESEMBLE WHITE EUROPEANS, THEREFORE WHITE EUROPEANS HAVE TO BE THE RESULTANT COMBINATION OF AFRICAN ALBINOS AND INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN CROSS-BREEDING TOGETHER!

        • GulliverFredrich

          where is my new comment? And what are you talking about that I all I did was pretend to look at albinos from these populations, and then pretend all White Europeans are blonde and pale?

        • WHY, OH WHY, CAN WHITE PEOPLE ON THIS GODDAMN PLANET, (CAN’T) ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ALBINOS AND NOT AN ACTUAL RACE OF PEOPLE*

          Source?

        • GulliverFredrich

          So where is my goddamn new long comment that I just posted for all of you? I am not talking about the blue eyes one post….

        • GulliverFredrich

          Also many modern White Europeans, particularly Central, Eastern, North-East and South-East Europeans ARE NOT NATIVE OR INDIGENOUS TO EUROPE! THEY DID NOT “EVOLVE” IN EUROPE! They are actually Central Asian and Siberian transplants (aka the Indo-europeans/Indo-Aryans), and the descendants of recent migrants, invaders, and immigrants from that vast part of the world, whom started migrating to Europe as early as 3200 BC to finally peaking in terms of migration and ending around the early-to-mid dark ages in Europe period. This refutes a lot of the “Europeans” are a “distinct race” and “Europeans are genetically distinct and unique” bullshit that people keep ranting and repeating ad nausuem!

          Modern day White Europeans are simply albinos and not an actual race of people period!

        • “Oh boy, it’s so easy refuting the stuff that people like Phil throw at me that I just don’t where to begin. I have argued and disproved points and false claims like this again and again and again, that I’m tired of having to deal with these same arguments already now.”

          Lets see.

          “There is zero real actual evidence that Whites are the result of cold adaptation. The reason why some “Whites” in southern Europe appear dark is because they assimilated and mixed with Black European type peoples over the centuries and Blacks from North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula area. The apparent darkness is a result of admixture, but it’s pretty much a fact that Whites are albinos and not a race.”

          Citation of either of those?

          “The genetic record and charts simply prove that a White race never existed and is not a distinct race in the genetic sense but rather they are the albinos and albino-non-albino admixtures of various different groups of colored/albino peoples.”

          You do undestand there is more to race than pigment, right? See my charts before.

          “Modern White Europeans are basically the resultant combination OF BOTH AFRICAN AND DRAVIDIAN/INDIAN ALBINOS BREEDING TOGETHER IN NORTHERN EUROPE BEFORE the advent of the Roman empire.”

          Citation again.

          “This is why you find African genetic haplogroups in Northern and Northwest Europe today, in very, very White-looking peoples today. And in Southern Europe, you had bigger populations of Black Europeans historically, hence you get the swarthy looks over there today.”

          See my reference regarding black Africans versus “OOA” people.

          “Northern Europe was historically uncultivated and filled with large forests and swamps and uncharted territory in early Europe, like when the English colonists first arrived to settle North America and reported on the heavily forested and uncultivated lands there.

          The albinos of the first Black African settlers of Europe went to Northern Europe for cooler temperatures, less sunlight, and as a place of hiding and refuge from the first Black European settlers and inhabitants of Europe, who migrated to Europe from Africa via the Gibraltar straits and the Middle East.”

          Proof?

          “And you can see this in how African genes and African-like traits show up in places like Denmark to Ireland in very White-looking peoples and ethnic groups. It was from Scandinavia and the Baltics where White Indo-Europeans launched their invasions and movements throughout the rest of Black Europe AFTER mixing w/ Euro Black African albino tribes there and took over Europe.”

          Again, Proof? Those people you cited, compared to my face plates earlier, clearly show more dissimilarities through facial and craniometrics.

          “And add some recent non-White admixture from the earliest inhabitants of Europe as well as from North Africa and the Middle East, then you end up GETTING THIS AS A RESULT:”

          Okay, first of all, where did middle easterners even come about as a race based on what you are proposing?

          “And this is reflected in the European genetic record and pool! There is no such thing as “EUROPEAN” genes because the primary genetic haplogroups of modern Europe ORIGINATED FROM OUTSIDE OF EUROPE in different time periods in different places independent and separate from each other and migrated to Europe at different time periods in history, while originating from non-White groups that look nothing like White Europeans on the surface.”

          You do understand that overtime Haplogroups create variants once residing in a diverged geographic genepool so yes, Europeans genes do exist.

          “But since the albinos of the carriers of European genetic haplogroups and genes OUTSIDE OF EUROPE LOOK LIKE AND RESEMBLE WHITE EUROPEANS, THEREFORE WHITE EUROPEANS HAVE TO BE THE RESULTANT COMBINATION OF AFRICAN ALBINOS AND INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN CROSS-BREEDING TOGETHER!”

          Except I’ve already explain OOA people not being similar genetically to modern SSA populations except East Africans, who of themselves are closer to Eurasians. Again see my link on Egyptians.

          Second, that doesn’t mean Europeans aren’t a race, you are correct that they are a mixture of different groups (all of which were Eurasian), but the fact that they contain a different combination of genes than other people a bred so long in a distinct genepool makes the a different race.

          See my link with the face plates, it includes a genetic distance graph of different races.

          “Also many modern White Europeans, particularly Central, Eastern, North-East and South-East Europeans ARE NOT NATIVE OR INDIGENOUS TO EUROPE! THEY DID NOT “EVOLVE” IN EUROPE! They are actually Central Asian and Siberian transplants (aka the Indo-europeans/Indo-Aryans), and the descendants of recent migrants, invaders, and immigrants from that vast part of the world, whom started migrating to Europe as early as 3200 BC to finally peaking in terms of migration and ending around the early-to-mid dark ages in Europe period.”

          http://www.unz.com/gnxp/italy-from-top-to-boot/

          Actually all of europe is a mixture.

          “This refutes a lot of the “Europeans” are a “distinct race” and “Europeans are genetically distinct and unique” bullshit that people keep ranting and repeating ad nausuem!”

          No it doesn’t.

          “Modern day White Europeans are simply albinos and not an actual race of people period!”

          The fact that they are a unique mixture with varying level of past ancestry on top of having their own haplogroup variants proves that they are.

        • Mike

          Gulliver, don’t you know any links posted by Phil despite it being white nationalist pseudoscience but he has full rights in questioning volumes of texts posted by you?. Even if you bother to post it , he and that pseudo racialist Racerealist will quickly refute that with their BS materials from some BS sites

        • To Mike,

          “Gulliver, don’t you know any links posted by Phil despite it being white nationalist pseudoscience but he has full rights in questioning volumes of texts posted by you?”

          Exactly which link of mine was white nationalist in this thread? Pick it out.

          Also the few link he bother to give on the subject matter actually ended up refuting his claims

          “Even if you bother to post it , he and that pseudo racialist Racerealist will quickly refute that with their BS materials from some BS sites.”

          Congratulations Mike. Despite this guy not even answering my original question, responding to my comment with a complete non sequitor, ethnic bias that is off the charts, you still side with him simply because he isn’t me.

        • To Mike,

          Can’t say I’m surprised, both of you match eachothers view of Arabs and East Asians.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/11/08/pollution-and-overpopulation-in-india-by-magneto/#comment-280400

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/11/08/pollution-and-overpopulation-in-india-by-magneto/#comment-280396

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/11/08/who-voted-trump-100-rightwingers-and-racists-0-anyone-else/#comment-280219

          Couldn’t find it, but I’ve seen your “fuck Islam Arab supremacy” comment. So other cultures can be criticized to such a generalized view but not blacks?

        • Mike

          There’s a difference between criticism and racism. That Chinese idiot warranted that response by lying through the teeth. His support for trump is purely patriarchal. You are a racist Phil you pretend to be black boy and bring dubious sourcess to support all your pseudo science.

          You never miss an opportunity to belittle blacks like tulio, Chinedu with support from that filthy mongrel racerealist, and his quack race theories . Your hatred for blacks is pathological almost equal to guys running sites like chimpmania. Also, Arab supremacy is well known and Islam has been the vehicle for it. I’ll respond later with all the details due to time constraints now.

        • xoinosuilleabhain

          I obviously don’t agree with GulliverFredrich, but I have to admit, some of those Indian albinos look straight up Nordic. Especially PKAB152 in the second set (“C”).

        • To Mike,

          “There’s a difference between criticism and racism. That Chinese idiot warranted that response by lying through the teeth.”

          Did he though?

          “His support for trump is purely patriarchal.”

          Was it?

          “You are a racist Phil you pretend to be black boy and bring dubious sourcess to support all your pseudo science.”

          The prove it in this case that my sources are bullshit.

          “You never miss an opportunity to belittle blacks like tulio, Chinedu with support from that filthy mongrel racerealist, and his quack race theories . ”

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/blacks-couldnt-even-build-a-boat-to-madagascar/#comment-282299

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/africans-are-not-stone-age-people/#comment-282216

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/africans-are-not-stone-age-people/#comment-282198

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/11/25/an-example-of-anti-white-propaganda-white-men-raped-their-way-around-most-of-the-world/#comment-281934

          “Your hatred for blacks is pathological almost equal to guys running sites like chimpmania.”

          Show specifically generalizing blacks from my own opinion.

          “Also, Arab supremacy is well known and Islam has been the vehicle for it. I’ll respond later with all the details due to time constraints now.”

          Whether or not you are right or wrong wasn’t my point if you read my comment. You, right here, are generalizing a culture in a negative light, and I’ve asked why is it that one can with Arabs but not with Blacks?

        • To Mike,

          BTW, about racism vs. criticism,

          “Just like a typical manipulative Chinese, you lie here shamelessly. Who cares that a Chinese from Singapore supports trump. Go downlow on your own leaders.”

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/11/08/who-voted-trump-100-rightwingers-and-racists-0-anyone-else/#comment-280219

          That’s not racism?

          And saying a culture main religion is simply a tool for their domination wouldn’t be seen as racism by others?

          You talk about blacks, now, remind me how many blacks do practice Islam in Africa and Islam’s significance in African Historical advancement regarding empires and adoption new innovations? Boko Haram aside, black Muslims barely form terrorists groups like other groups such as Berbers.

        • I’ll go through the rest of this thread later.

          Mike,

          with support from that filthy mongrel racerealist, and his quack race theories

          May I ask what you’re speaking about? Mongrel? Quack race theories? Please elaborate.

        • GulliverFredrich

          xoinosuilleabhain

          Here are some more Indian/South Asian albinos:



          http://fvn.mnocdn.no/images/dc02ba31-7070-42ac-a163-3523cb57780a?fit=crop&q=80&w=1440




          http://lh4.ggpht.com/-PLyoy5x0GKk/UB9kPp_u-AI/AAAAAAAANpc/PIXx9zYvN6E/2012-07-26-Rising-Star-Outreach-5741.jpg?imgmax=800




          Obviously if you were to mix the above with African albinos, you know what you would get as a result for sure!

        • TJF

          To GulliverFredrich

          WHY, OH WHY, CAN WHITE PEOPLE ON THIS GODDAMN PLANET, (CAN’T) ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ALBINOS AND NOT AN ACTUAL RACE OF PEOPLE*

          Well Gulliver,

          Perhaps because that notion has no scientific backing..? You have never posted any peer reviewed publications to back up claim, phenotype is not necessarily genotype. Albinism is an expression of a recessive trait…I actually know a black man with albinism who had two kids with a white woman. Their children are markedly darker than he is because they don’t express the recessive trait.

          Also albinism is not restricted to Africans and South Asians and occurs in every race:

          http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

        • GulliverFredrich

          TJF

          There are fourteen known types of albinism according to modern science, with more possibly to be discovered; I am not sure if you are aware of this reality or not. The pictures of albinos that you posted are OCA1 albinos!

          OCA1 albinism is the highest and most lethal type of albinism that can affect a person, with the most reduction of production of melanin in the body resulting in white hair, very pale skin, and blue/grey/red eyes. This is what most people THINK IS TRUE ALBINISM WHEN IT IS NOT! There are all types and forms of albinism!

          Whites themselves are mostly OCA2-OCA7 types of albinos, the albinos that Whites themselves produce are OCA1 albino’s, which is the albino types that you posted in your pictures and which whites mistakenly and/or deceivingly identify as the ONLY known type of albinism to the public at large. However most to nearly all whites carry the mutated version of the OCA2 gene, which stands for Occulucutanoes albinism type 2; this type of albinism results in blonde/red/brown hair, blue/grey/green eyes, and pale skin as found in many modern White Europeans today. It is infact, THIS VERY SINGLE GENE, that scientists and geneticists SPECIFICALLY LOOK FOR IN ANCIENT CORPSES AND SKELETONS, TO SEE IF IT BELONGED TO A WHITE PERSON OR NOT!

          Whites themselves are the basically the differing %’s but cross-breeding result, of AFRICAN ALBINOS from North-West Africa, MIXING WITH INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN ALBINOS (known in history as the Indo-Europeans/Aryans), TO PRODUCE THE MODERN WHITE EUROPEAN GROUPS WE KNOW OF TODAY!

        • To Gulliver, I’ve already pointed out that the allele mutation that give europeans lighter skin pigmentation isn’t albinism, as in a direct mutation disorder in the OCA2 gene.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/africans-are-not-stone-age-people/#comment-282398

        • GulliverFredrich

          “To Gulliver, I’ve already pointed out that the allele mutation that give europeans lighter skin pigmentation isn’t albinism, as in a direct mutation disorder in the OCA2 gene.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/africans-are-not-stone-age-people/#comment-282398

          Actually idiot, you haven’t disproved anything at all or any of my claims since you completely seem to have a difficulty with logic and reading comprehension. Let’s look at the stuff that that I linked:

          “A mutation in the HERC2 gene adjacent to OCA2, affecting OCA2’s expression in the human iris, is found common to nearly all people with blue eyes. It has been hypothesized that all blue-eyed humans share a single common ancestor with whom the mutation originated”

          Obviously the writing in this article is full of lies and fabrications, designed to cover up the fact that whites are albinos and not an actual race of people. For example, there is no way, that all blue eyed humans share a single common ancestor, WHEN THERE ARE ALBINOS WITH BLUE EYES BEING PRODUCED IN REGIONS SUCH AS AFRICA AND INDIA, WITH BLACK/COLORED MAJORITY POPULATIONS THAT HAVE NO GENETIC RELATIONSHIP OR RECENT ADMIXTURE TO/FROM PEOPLE IN EUROPE!

          But again, OCA2 stands for occulucutanoes albinism type 2! Let’s look at what characterizes this type of albinism:

          Let’s see what is written above, as we can see OCA2 type albinism basically described the entire population of Northern to Central to parts of Southern Europe, as well as whites in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan and Tajikistan. And as we can all see, Indian/South Asian albinos, whos pictures I have provided have with OCA2 form of albinism, LOOK EXACTLY LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS!

          Ergo, since the blonde/red/brown hair and blue/grey eyes and pale skin of White Europeans IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE OCA2 gene and other forms of albinism; THEREFORE WHITES ARE ALBINOS AND NOT A RACE! As famed Stanford geneticist Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza recently stated,

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Luca_Cavalli-Sforza

          White Europeans are basically two-thirds “Asian” and one-third “African”. Now since modern day Africans and Asians look nothing like Asians or Africans on the surface, (except for South Asians and central Asian/West Asian populations on a facial structural level), BUT THE ALBINOS OF THOSE GROUPS DO AS MY PICTURES ILLUSTRATE, THEREFORE WHITES HAVE TO BE THE SPECIFIC COMBINATION OF AFRICAN AND INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN ALBINOS CROSS-BREEDING IN DIFFERING %’S TO PRODUCE MODERN WHITE EUROPEANS! And even geneticists like Sforza simply confirm and state the obvious.

          Now let’s look at what other gibberish you wrote:

          “The SM link actually said these genes were responsible for lighter skin, not OCA2 mutations.

          “And the new data confirm that about 8500 years ago, early hunter-gatherers in Spain, Luxembourg, and Hungary also had darker skin: They lacked versions of two genes—SLC24A5 and SLC45A2—that lead to depigmentation and, therefore, pale skin in Europeans today.”

          http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

          Obviously your idiotic ignorant ass didn’t take the time to actually LOOK UP WHAT THINGS THOSE TWO GENES CAN CAUSE! Let’s look at what SLC24A5 and SLC24A2 can cause:

          Oh lookie here! Mutations in SLC24A5 IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALBINISM IN HUMAN POPULATIONS, WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN?

          Let’s look at what SLC24A2 can also cause:

          OH LOOK! SLC45A2 ALSO CAUSES ALBINISM! Damn you people really don’t think these things through now do you? And guess what? SLC45A2 ALSO CAUSES ALBINISM IN INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN POPULATIONS LIKE PAKISTANI’S!

          http://www.dawn.com/news/1118756

          “He said his team had identified 17 pathogenic mutations, in four albinism genes including TYR (OCA1), OCA2, TYRP1 and SLC45A2 out of which 11 mutations are novel that are causing albinism in 30 families in southern Punjab.

          “For the first time in Pakistani population, three novel mutations are identified in TYR gene (OCA1), four in OCA2, one in TYRP1 and three in SLC45A2,” he said.”

          And as my pictures illustrate, INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN ALBINOS LOOK EXACTLY LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS! Albinos are the only people besides White Europeans that have pale skin, blonde/red/brown hair, and blue/grey/green eyes! Therefore by simple logic, Whites HAVE TO BE ALBINOS! And since Indians/South Asians are genetically close to White Europeans, almost like two peas in a pod in a genetic cluster table as again stated by famed geneticist Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza:

          And since again, modern White Europeans are basically one-third African and two-thirds Asian mix (of the South/Central Asian variety rather then East), and Whites are the only people besides albinos of other non-white populations, with blonde/red/brown hair and blue.grey/green eyes and pale skin; THEREFORE MODERN DAY WHITES TO BE THE COMBINATION OF INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN AND AFRICAN ALBINOS CROSS-BREEDING TOGETHER!

          And I like how your ignorant ass ignored the fact that my links showed that only is OCA2 responsible for a certain type of albinism, is ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIGHT/PALE APPEARANCE OF MANY EAST ASIAN POPULATIONS TODAY! And East Asian populations look NOTHING LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS ON THE SURFACE! Therefore again Whites have to be albinos and not a race, given all that we have learned so far above!

          And since there are albinos that look like White Europeans, STILL BEING PRODUCED IN HOT SUNLIGHT HIGH TEMP REGIONS OF THE WORLD LIKE PLACES IN AFRICA AND INDIA/SOUTH ASIA, THEREFORE THE WHITENESS OF WHITE EUROPEANS CANNOT BE THE RESULT OF ENVIRONMENTAL ADAPTATION AS THE EUROPEAN ALBINOS DECEPTIVELY TELL US BY SIMPLE LOGIC ALONE!

          Now let’s look at another article, which sort of contradicts some of the other articles on this topic posted here, about the origins of blue eyes in White Europeans:

          https://www.occupycorporatism.com/scientists-claim-blue-eyes-originated-from-7000-year-old-male/

          “In 2012, A team of researchers from Copenhagen University have located a single mutation that causes the mysterious phenomenon of blue eyes.

          All blue eyed people are believed to be genetically related to a person who lived in the Black Sea region sometime between 6 – 10,000 years ago.

          The research was published in the Journal of Human Genetics.

          A mutation in a gene called OCA2 came into being nearly 8,000 years ago. It can be definitively traced back to an ancestor from the Black Sea.

          Dr. Hans Eiberg claims that before this time, every human being had brown eyes.

          Eiderg said: “A genetic mutation affecting the OCA2 gene in our chromosomes resulted in the creation of a ‘switch,’ which literally ‘turned off’ the ability to produce brown eyes.”

          When blue-eyed peoples from Jordan, Denmark and Turkey were examined, their genetic difference was traced back to the maternal lineage according to Eiberg’s team.

          The brown melanin pigment is still dominant. However, following the last Ice Age, Europeans developed this rare mutation that differentiated them from the rest of the human race.

          Ninety-five percent of Europeans in Scandinavian countries have blue eyes. They are also found to have a greater range of hair and skin color.

          Comparatively, Europe has a wider variety of hair color and skin pigment than is found in any other continent in the world. These mutations are recent as Europe was colonized only a few thousand years ago, say mainstream scientists.”

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          “In 2012, A team of researchers from Copenhagen University have located a single mutation that causes the mysterious phenomenon of blue eyes.

          All blue eyed people are believed to be genetically related to a person who lived in the Black Sea region sometime between 6 – 10,000 years ago.

          The research was published in the Journal of Human Genetics.
          A mutation in a gene called OCA2 came into being nearly 8,000 years ago. It can be definitively traced back to an ancestor from the Black Sea.

          Dr. Hans Eiberg claims that before this time, every human being had brown eyes.

          Eiderg said: “A genetic mutation affecting the OCA2 gene in our chromosomes resulted in the creation of a ‘switch,’ which literally ‘turned off’ the ability to produce brown eyes.”

          When blue-eyed peoples from Jordan, Denmark and Turkey were examined, their genetic difference was traced back to the maternal lineage according to Eiberg’s team.

          The brown melanin pigment is still dominant. However, following the last Ice Age, Europeans developed this rare mutation that differentiated them from the rest of the human race.

          Ninety-five percent of Europeans in Scandinavian countries have blue eyes. They are also found to have a greater range of hair and skin color.

          Comparatively, Europe has a wider variety of hair color and skin pigment than is found in any other continent in the world. These mutations are recent as Europe was colonized only a few thousand years ago, say mainstream scientists.”

          And again OCA2 stands for, curtains opening”
          *drum roll

          https://www.allacronyms.com/_medical/OCA2/Oculocutaneous_Albinism_Type_2

          “OCA2 stands for Oculocutaneous Albinism Type 2”

          BOOM!

          And what characterizes this type of albinism?

          Damn! And again this albinism type basically again describes a vast majority of modern White Europeans, as indicated by the colors it can cause in humans on the surface. And again, obviously you are lying out of your teeth when you say that OCA2 cannot cause blue eyes, which are again DUE TO A LACK OF MELANIN IN THE EYES and a defective P-gene. Albinos also have blue eyes like Whites, BECAUSE THEY LACK MELANIN IN THE EYES AND THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE IT!

          I mean it’s obvious at this point, given everything that I’ve offered on the table so far, that modern day White Europeans are albinos and not an actual race of people, and the specific combination of Indian/South Asian albinos cross-breeding together.

        • GulliverFredrich

          MC1R does not fully determine hair color in Europeans, but MC1R DOES WORK WITH THE OCA2 GENE TO GIVE RED HAIR TO WHITE EUROPEANS!

          https://www.google.com/search?q=realhistoryww.com+OCA2&biw=1079&bih=553&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd7pC_n-PQAhUETCYKHfjkDLYQ_AUIBigB#imgdii=Swg9L_s1ircGpM%3A%3BSwg9L_s1ircGpM%3A%3Bv-twmwM-r7Ji_M%3A&imgrc=Swg9L_s1ircGpM%3A

          http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/origins_of_red_hair.shtml

          “Red hair is a recessive genetic trait caused by a series of mutations in the melanocortin 1 receptor (MC1R), a gene located on chromosome 16. As a recessive trait it must be inherited from both parents to cause the hair to become red… The mutations in the MC1R gene imparts the hair and skin more pheomelanin than eumelanin, causing both red hair and freckles.”

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1180688/

          “MC1R Mutations Modify the Classic Phenotype of Oculocutaneous Albinism Type 2 (OCA2)

          The heterogeneous group of disorders known as oculocutaneous albinism (OCA) shares cutaneous and ocular hypopigmentation associated with common developmental abnormalities of the eye. Mutations of at least 11 loci produce this phenotype.

          The majority of affected individuals develop some cutaneous melanin; this is predominantly seen as yellow/blond hair, whereas fewer have brown hair. The OCA phenotype is dependent on the constitutional pigmentation background of the family, with more OCA pigmentation found in families with darker constitutional pigmentation, which indicates that other genes may modify the OCA phenotype. Sequence variation in the melanocortin-1 receptor (MC1R) gene is associated with red hair in the normal population, but red hair is unusual in OCA.

          We identified eight probands with OCA who had red hair at birth. Mutations in the P gene were responsible for classic phenotype of oculocutaneous albinism type 2 (OCA2) in all eight, and mutations in the MC1R gene were responsible for the red (rather than yellow/blond) hair in the six of eight who continued to have red hair after birth. This is the first demonstration of a gene modifying the OCA phenotype in humans.”

          BAM! The hurt has got to be good! Phil I want to taste your tears now! Because this is just the beginning baby! Phil I hope you don’t cry yourself to sleep now, because you just got a vicious beating there son!

        • “BAM! The hurt has got to be good! Phil I want to taste your tears now! Because this is just the beginning baby! Phil I hope you don’t cry yourself to sleep now, because you just got a vicious beating there son!”

          Well actually no, lets actually read that again.

          “The majority of affected individuals develop some cutaneous melanin; this is predominantly seen as yellow/blond hair, whereas fewer have brown hair. The OCA phenotype is dependent on the constitutional pigmentation background of the family, with more OCA pigmentation found in families with darker constitutional pigmentation, which indicates that other genes may modify the OCA phenotype. Sequence variation in the melanocortin-1 receptor (MC1R) gene is associated with red hair in the normal population, but red hair is unusual in OCA.

          Basically specifying that not only is red hair separate from albinism, but it’s unusual.

          “We identified eight probands with OCA who had red hair at birth. Mutations in the P gene were responsible for classic phenotype of oculocutaneous albinism type 2 (OCA2) in all eight, and mutations in the MC1R gene were responsible for the red (rather than yellow/blond) hair in the six of eight who continued to have red hair after birth. This is the first demonstration of a gene modifying the OCA phenotype in humans.”

          This making it even clearer.

          Don’t cry too hard.

        • GulliverFredrich

          ^^^Seems like reading comprehension and logic only seems to be a challenge when individuals here and their opinions be challenged or their worldviews thoroughly destroyed. How sad 😦

          Fool! THE ARTICLE STATED THAT MC1R WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR RED HAIR, WORKING ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE, WHICH IS AN ALBINISM GENE, TO CREATE RED HAIR AND FRECKLES IN WHITE EUROPEANS! YOU SAID THAT IT IS ONLY MC1R THAT IS INVOLVED WITH EUROPEAN LIGHT HAIR WHICH IS FALSE AS ANYONE WITH A WORKING PAIR OF EYES CAN SEE! MC1R DOES CREATE RED HAIR, BUT IT IS NOT THE SOLE GENE RESPONSIBLE FOR LIGHT HAIR FEATURES IN WHITES!

          ALL MY LINKS SHOW, CLEARLY THAT VARIATIONS IN THE OCA2 GENE CAN CAUSE LIGHT HAIR LIKE BLONDE/BROWN HAIR TO FORM, WHICH IS PART OF VARIOUS FORMS OF KNOWN ALBINISM! THE OCA2 GENE DOES NOT NEED MC1R TO CREATE BLONDE/LIGHT HAIR IN HUMANS!

          THE ARTICLE CLEARLY STATED, THAT RED HAIR IN UNUSUAL, NOT THAT RED HAIR CANNOT BE CAUSED BY ALBINISM, WHICH MY PICTURES AND LINKS SHOW TO BE OBVIOUSLY FALSE! THE ARTICLE STATES DIRECTLY TO READERS, THAT MC1R WORKED WITH THE SUBJECTS WITH THE OCA GENE TO CREATE RED HAIR ON THEM, NOT THAT MC1R WAS NOT ENTIRELY SEPARATE TO NOT EFFECT THEIR ALBINISM! BUT MC1R WAS/IS NOT THE SOLE DETERMINING GENE TO CREATE LIGHT HAIR WITH SUBJECTS OF THE OCA DEFECT! SO YES YOU HAVE NOT REFUTED ANYTHING AT ALL, AND

          YOU HAVE INFACT LIED AND CONTRADICTED YOURSELF WHEN YOU SAID THAT MC1R WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR LIGHT HAIR IN EUROPEANS, WHEN IT CLEARLY ISN’T, AND IS ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR CASES OF RED HAIR FOR PEOPLE WITH THE OCA DEFECT!

          THEREFORE THESE ARTICLES ARE SIMPLY FURTHER PROOF WHAT WHITENESS IS ESSENTIALLY ALBINISM OR FORMS OF IT! You dodging and framing the arguments intentionally and misinterpreting everything stupidly and intentionally, IS NOT GOING TO DISPROVE OR GET RID OF THE REALITY OF WHITES BEING ALBINOS!

        • https://www.quora.com/Are-white-people-actually-albinos

          Here it tells the difference in the first comment, and actually that article you posted likely explains why you see similar features of whites associated with Albinism, because it triggers other genes to produce the phenotype in part but the independent gene mutation itself “like red hair” isn’t albinism.

          Also I see that either you or a similar person posted similar bullshit.

          Learn something about European genetics for real.

          http://www.unz.com/gnxp/our-magnificent-bastard-race/

          So you are right that Europeans are mix of population (your actual populations being false though) but as you see that doesn’t stop them from being a race.

        • “^^^Seems like reading comprehension and logic only seems to be a challenge when individuals here and their opinions be challenged or their worldviews thoroughly destroyed. How sad😦”

          You mean how I used your source to prove you wrong?

          “Fool! THE ARTICLE STATED THAT MC1R WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR RED HAIR, WORKING ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE, WHICH IS AN ALBINISM GENE, TO CREATE RED HAIR AND FRECKLES IN WHITE EUROPEANS!”

          And it clearly says that red hair was even less common in albinos, and that it was a separate mutation from albinism itself. Who’s exactly lacking logic?

          “YOU SAID THAT IT IS ONLY MC1R THAT IS INVOLVED WITH EUROPEAN LIGHT HAIR WHICH IS FALSE AS ANYONE WITH A WORKING PAIR OF EYES CAN SEE! MC1R DOES CREATE RED HAIR, BUT IT IS NOT THE SOLE GENE RESPONSIBLE FOR LIGHT HAIR FEATURES IN WHITES!”

          Except that article showing that it was MC1R that even gives Albinos red hair

          “ALL MY LINKS SHOW, CLEARLY THAT VARIATIONS IN THE OCA2 GENE CAN CAUSE LIGHT HAIR LIKE BLONDE/BROWN HAIR TO FORM, WHICH IS PART OF VARIOUS FORMS OF KNOWN ALBINISM!”

          Through interactions with other genes, not the OCA2 mutation itself.

          “THE OCA2 GENE DOES NOT NEED MC1R TO CREATE BLONDE/LIGHT HAIR IN HUMANS!”

          Even if it could that doesn’t proves only albinism produces blonde hair. If not, explain this.

          http://www.unz.com/gnxp/case-closed-blonde-melanesians-understood/

          “THE ARTICLE CLEARLY STATED, THAT RED HAIR IN UNUSUAL, NOT THAT RED HAIR CANNOT BE CAUSED BY ALBINISM, WHICH MY PICTURES AND LINKS SHOW TO BE OBVIOUSLY FALSE!”

          Except that’s not what I said, I said that the OCA2 mutation itself doesn’t lead to red hair, it’s the separate interaction with MC1R which the article clearly said.

          “THE ARTICLE STATES DIRECTLY TO READERS, THAT MC1R WORKED WITH THE SUBJECTS WITH THE OCA GENE TO CREATE RED HAIR ON THEM, NOT THAT MC1R WAS NOT ENTIRELY SEPARATE TO NOT EFFECT THEIR ALBINISM!”

          Yes it did if you actually read the passage, it clearly distinguished the two mutations.

          “BUT MC1R WAS/IS NOT THE SOLE DETERMINING GENE TO CREATE LIGHT HAIR WITH SUBJECTS OF THE OCA DEFECT! SO YES YOU HAVE NOT REFUTED ANYTHING AT ALL, AND”

          If you mean that red hair (a form of light hair) wasn’t triggered by MC1R in this scenario then you are wrong.

          “YOU HAVE INFACT LIED AND CONTRADICTED YOURSELF WHEN YOU SAID THAT MC1R WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR LIGHT HAIR IN EUROPEANS, WHEN IT CLEARLY ISN’T, AND IS ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR CASES OF RED HAIR FOR PEOPLE WITH THE OCA DEFECT!”

          A. How does that contradict me? I gave a link (and a link to that comment) that proves it as the overall significant role in variation in Europeans, and this article shows that MC1R is responsible for that in it’s introduction with non albino people.

          B. Where did I lie?

          C. No, the article said that the cause of red hair in albinos was the same mutation for non-albinos

          “THEREFORE THESE ARTICLES ARE SIMPLY FURTHER PROOF WHAT WHITENESS IS ESSENTIALLY ALBINISM OR FORMS OF IT!”

          No, it proves that albinos and non-albinos share the same mutation for red hair.

          “You dodging and framing the arguments intentionally and misinterpreting everything stupidly and intentionally,”

          That is some might projection there.

          “IS NOT GOING TO DISPROVE OR GET RID OF THE REALITY OF WHITES BEING ALBINOS!”

          Except that I’ve shown that not to be the case for their lighter skin either, read that science.mag link you gave carefully.

          “And the new data confirm that about 8500 years ago, early hunter-gatherers in Spain, Luxembourg, and Hungary also had darker skin: They lacked versions of two genes—SLC24A5 and SLC45A2—that lead to depigmentation and, therefore, pale skin in Europeans today.”

          http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

        • “YOU SAID THAT IT IS ONLY MC1R THAT IS INVOLVED WITH EUROPEAN LIGHT HAIR WHICH IS FALSE AS ANYONE WITH A WORKING PAIR OF EYES CAN SEE! MC1R DOES CREATE RED HAIR, BUT IT IS NOT THE SOLE GENE RESPONSIBLE FOR LIGHT HAIR FEATURES IN WHITES!”

          This I admit I was actually wrong, it was this gene.

          http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/06/genetics-blond-hair

          But I was right that other shades were caused by MC1R variations.

          http://www.unz.com/pfrost/a-new-allele-for-blond-hair/

          And seeing how Albinism itself, as far as we know, results in white hair and that red hair in those cases are also caused by the same variant in non albinos, one could reasonably assume that that may apply to other cases of albinism.

          Problem, the red hair example’s distinction between regular red hair people and albinos with red hair shows that albinism isn’t the only way to gain these features, and this is supported by my melanesian examples and that light skin was caused by different genes.

        • Mike

          Gulliver, your theories on albinism of white race appears unbelievable and far-fetched. Give credit where it is due. Some might be albinos but it doesn’t disprove the existence of white race.

        • GulliverFredrich

          It’s not unbelievable or far fetched at all, especially when I posted pictures of Indian/South Asian albinos that look EXACTLY like White Europeans and I also posted various genetic and scientific evidence to corroborate that. Either the extremely ignorant, or the ones in denial to the extreme, or the extremely stupid wouldn’t have come to the obvious albinism conclusion right now…..

        • GulliverFredrich

          Corrections to my first long response:

          “White Europeans are basically two-thirds “Asian” and one-third “African”. Now since modern day white Europeans look nothing like Asians or Africans on the surface, (except for South Asians and central Asian/West Asian populations on a facial structural level), BUT THE ALBINOS OF THOSE GROUPS DO AS MY PICTURES ILLUSTRATE, THEREFORE WHITES HAVE TO BE THE SPECIFIC COMBINATION OF AFRICAN AND INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN ALBINOS CROSS-BREEDING IN DIFFERING %’S TO PRODUCE MODERN WHITE EUROPEANS! And even geneticists like Sforza simply confirm and state the obvious…”

          “In the book Cavalli-Sforza asserts that Europeans are, in their ancestry, about two-thirds Asian and one-third African.”

          More links showing SLC24A5, and SLC24A2 causing Albinism:

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23364476

          “Exome sequencing identifies SLC24A5 as a candidate gene for nonsyndromic oculocutaneous albinism.

          Oculocutaneous albinism (OCA) is a heterogeneous and autosomal recessive disorder with hypopigmentation in the eye, hair, and skin color. Four genes, TYR, OCA2, TYRP1, and SLC45A2, have been identified as causative genes for nonsyndromic OCA1-4, respectively. The genetic identity of OCA5 locus on 4q24 is unknown. Additional unknown OCA genes may exist as at least 5% of OCA patients have not been characterized during mutational screening in several populations. We used exome sequencing with a family-based recessive mutation model to determine that SLC24A5 is a previously unreported candidate gene for nonsyndromic OCA, which we designate as OCA6.”

          SLC45A2:

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/51151

          “This gene encodes a transporter protein that mediates melanin synthesis. The protein is expressed in a high percentage of melanoma cell lines. Mutations in this gene are a cause of oculocutaneous albinism type 4, and polymorphisms in this gene are associated with variations in skin and hair color.”

          Correction:

          “And I like how your ignorant ass ignored the fact that my links showed that only not only is OCA2 responsible for a certain type of albinism, it is ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIGHT/PALE APPEARANCE OF MANY EAST ASIAN POPULATIONS TODAY! And East Asian populations look NOTHING LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS ON THE SURFACE! Therefore again Whites have to be albinos and not a race, given all that we have learned so far above!”

          The light skin and pale appearance of many North-East Asian mongoloid types, is also DERIVED FROM ALLELES RELATED TO THE OCA2 GENE! And OCA2 is an albinism gene, since OCA2 stands for OCULOCUTANEOUS ALBINISM TYPE 2!

        • To Gulliver,

          “Actually idiot, you haven’t disproved anything at all or any of my claims since you completely seem to have a difficulty with logic and reading comprehension. Let’s look at the stuff that that I linked:

          “A mutation in the HERC2 gene adjacent to OCA2, affecting OCA2’s expression in the human iris, is found common to nearly all people with blue eyes. It has been hypothesized that all blue-eyed humans share a single common ancestor with whom the mutation originated”

          Obviously the writing in this article is full of lies and fabrications, designed to cover up the fact that whites are albinos and not an actual race of people. For example, there is no way, that all blue eyed humans share a single common ancestor, WHEN THERE ARE ALBINOS WITH BLUE EYES BEING PRODUCED IN REGIONS SUCH AS AFRICA AND INDIA, WITH BLACK/COLORED MAJORITY POPULATIONS THAT HAVE NO GENETIC RELATIONSHIP OR RECENT ADMIXTURE TO/FROM PEOPLE IN EUROPE!”

          If you knew anything about the population history of India you wouldn’t have said that they couldn’t have gotten it by that ancestor.

          Second, Waadernburg Syndrome.

          http://afritorial.com/black-people-with-blue-eyes/

          Also the article clearly mean blue eyes as an allele variant not associated with a disorder..

          “But again, OCA2 stands for occulucutanoes albinism type 2! Let’s look at what characterizes this type of albinism:

          Let’s see what is written above, as we can see OCA2 type albinism basically described the entire population of Northern to Central to parts of Southern Europe, as well as whites in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan and Tajikistan. And as we can all see, Indian/South Asian albinos, whos pictures I have provided have with OCA2 form of albinism, LOOK EXACTLY LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS!”

          Except that it wasn’t a mutation in OCA2, it was one in HERC2 that interacted with the former gene which is different from OCA2 albinism.

          Exactly? No, see the face plates from my original comment.

          “Ergo, since the blonde/red/brown hair and blue/grey eyes and pale skin of White Europeans IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE OCA2 gene and other forms of albinism; THEREFORE WHITES ARE ALBINOS AND NOT A RACE! As famed Stanford geneticist Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza recently stated,”

          Except you haven’t proven yet that those traits are exclusive to those condition and seeing how I debunked you on red hair that would be a hasty decision.

          “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Luca_Cavalli-Sforza

          White Europeans are basically two-thirds “Asian” and one-third “African”. Now since modern day Africans and Asians look nothing like Asians or Africans on the surface, (except for South Asians and central Asian/West Asian populations on a facial structural level), BUT THE ALBINOS OF THOSE GROUPS DO AS MY PICTURES ILLUSTRATE, THEREFORE WHITES HAVE TO BE THE SPECIFIC COMBINATION OF AFRICAN AND INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN ALBINOS CROSS-BREEDING IN DIFFERING %’S TO PRODUCE MODERN WHITE EUROPEANS! And even geneticists like Sforza simply confirm and state the obvious.”

          Except lets look at that “african” admixture in context of Eurasians.

          http://anthromadness.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-east-african-cluster.html

          Second the fact that Europeans have their own branch away from modern Europeans proves they are their own race, something that the scientist you cite DIDN’T say.

          “Now let’s look at what other gibberish you wrote:

          “The SM link actually said these genes were responsible for lighter skin, not OCA2 mutations.

          ‘And the new data confirm that about 8500 years ago, early hunter-gatherers in Spain, Luxembourg, and Hungary also had darker skin: They lacked versions of two genes—SLC24A5 and SLC45A2—that lead to depigmentation and, therefore, pale skin in Europeans today.’

          http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin”

          Obviously your idiotic ignorant ass didn’t take the time to actually LOOK UP WHAT THINGS THOSE TWO GENES CAN CAUSE! Let’s look at what SLC24A5 and SLC24A2 can cause:”

          Oh lookie here! Mutations in SLC24A5 IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALBINISM IN HUMAN POPULATIONS, WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN?”

          Except that it is OCA6 albinism, not OCA2 as you said. So apparently you didn’t know what your are saying.

          This type also occurs in only 1/1,000,000

          http://www.orpha.net/consor/cgi-bin/OC_Exp.php?lng=EN&Expert=370097

          “Let’s look at what SLC24A2 can also cause:

          OH LOOK! SLC45A2 ALSO CAUSES ALBINISM! Damn you people really don’t think these things through now do you? And guess what? SLC45A2 ALSO CAUSES ALBINISM IN INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN POPULATIONS LIKE PAKISTANI’S!”

          Yet on the grand scale is rare outside of Japan, and it was only one out of 4 major canindates.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oculocutaneous_albinism

          http://www.dawn.com/news/1118756

          “He said his team had identified 17 pathogenic mutations, in four albinism genes including TYR (OCA1), OCA2, TYRP1 and SLC45A2 out of which 11 mutations are novel that are causing albinism in 30 families in southern Punjab.

          “For the first time in Pakistani population, three novel mutations are identified in TYR gene (OCA1), four in OCA2, one in TYRP1 and three in SLC45A2,” he said.”

          Yet on the grand scale is rare outside of Japan, and it was only one out of 4 major canindates.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oculocutaneous_albinism

          Also, this contradicts what you said about OCA2, as this is a different gene.

          “And as my pictures illustrate, INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN ALBINOS LOOK EXACTLY LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS! Albinos are the only people besides White Europeans that have pale skin, blonde/red/brown hair, and blue/grey/green eyes! Therefore by simple logic, Whites HAVE TO BE ALBINOS!”

          Except when you consider the logic I’ve explained in my response regard red hair as a mutation versus Albinism trigger red hair.

          ” And since Indians/South Asians are genetically close to White Europeans, almost like two peas in a pod in a genetic cluster table as again stated by famed geneticist Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza:”

          But it’s been long documented that they cluster with each other as Caucasians, so that was no surprise.

          “And since again, modern White Europeans are basically one-third African and two-thirds Asian mix (of the South/Central Asian variety rather then East), and Whites are the only people besides albinos of other non-white populations, with blonde/red/brown hair and blue.grey/green eyes and pale skin; THEREFORE MODERN DAY WHITES TO BE THE COMBINATION OF INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN AND AFRICAN ALBINOS CROSS-BREEDING TOGETHER!”

          Not wheen you actually consider the genetic data I pulled out.

          “And I like how your ignorant ass ignored the fact that my links showed that only is OCA2 responsible for a certain type of albinism, is ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIGHT/PALE APPEARANCE OF MANY EAST ASIAN POPULATIONS TODAY!”

          See how that contradicts what you’ve said earlier.

          “And East Asian populations look NOTHING LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS ON THE SURFACE! Therefore again Whites have to be albinos and not a race, given all that we have learned so far above!”

          What do East Asians have to do with this?

          “And since there are albinos that look like White Europeans, STILL BEING PRODUCED IN HOT SUNLIGHT HIGH TEMP REGIONS OF THE WORLD LIKE PLACES IN AFRICA AND INDIA/SOUTH ASIA, THEREFORE THE WHITENESS OF WHITE EUROPEANS CANNOT BE THE RESULT OF ENVIRONMENTAL ADAPTATION AS THE EUROPEAN ALBINOS DECEPTIVELY TELL US BY SIMPLE LOGIC ALONE!”

          Except a mutation can appear any regardless of environment, it’s the factors of genetic drift or Natural selection that actually makes it more common.

          “Now let’s look at another article, which sort of contradicts some of the other articles on this topic posted here, about the origins of blue eyes in White Europeans:

          https://www.occupycorporatism.com/scientists-claim-blue-eyes-originated-from-7000-year-old-male/

          “In 2012, A team of researchers from Copenhagen University have located a single mutation that causes the mysterious phenomenon of blue eyes.

          All blue eyed people are believed to be genetically related to a person who lived in the Black Sea region sometime between 6 – 10,000 years ago.

          The research was published in the Journal of Human Genetics.

          A mutation in a gene called OCA2 came into being nearly 8,000 years ago. It can be definitively traced back to an ancestor from the Black Sea.

          Dr. Hans Eiberg claims that before this time, every human being had brown eyes.

          Eiderg said: ‘A genetic mutation affecting the OCA2 gene in our chromosomes resulted in the creation of a ‘switch,’ which literally ‘turned off’ the ability to produce brown eyes.’

          When blue-eyed peoples from Jordan, Denmark and Turkey were examined, their genetic difference was traced back to the maternal lineage according to Eiberg’s team.

          The brown melanin pigment is still dominant. However, following the last Ice Age, Europeans developed this rare mutation that differentiated them from the rest of the human race.

          Ninety-five percent of Europeans in Scandinavian countries have blue eyes. They are also found to have a greater range of hair and skin color.

          Comparatively, Europe has a wider variety of hair color and skin pigment than is found in any other continent in the world. These mutations are recent as Europe was colonized only a few thousand years ago, say mainstream scientists.”

          Icon 1 posted 13 November, 2016 01:16 AM Profile for Mindovermatter Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote https://www.occupycorporatism.com/scientists-claim-blue-eyes-originated-from-7000-year-old-male/
          “In 2012, A team of researchers from Copenhagen University have located a single mutation that causes the mysterious phenomenon of blue eyes.

          All blue eyed people are believed to be genetically related to a person who lived in the Black Sea region sometime between 6 – 10,000 years ago.

          The research was published in the Journal of Human Genetics.
          A mutation in a gene called OCA2 came into being nearly 8,000 years ago. It can be definitively traced back to an ancestor from the Black Sea.

          Dr. Hans Eiberg claims that before this time, every human being had brown eyes.

          “Eiderg said: “A genetic mutation affecting the OCA2 gene in our chromosomes resulted in the creation of a ‘switch,’ which literally ‘turned off’ the ability to produce brown eyes.”

          When blue-eyed peoples from Jordan, Denmark and Turkey were examined, their genetic difference was traced back to the maternal lineage according to Eiberg’s team.

          The brown melanin pigment is still dominant. However, following the last Ice Age, Europeans developed this rare mutation that differentiated them from the rest of the human race.

          Ninety-five percent of Europeans in Scandinavian countries have blue eyes. They are also found to have a greater range of hair and skin color.

          Comparatively, Europe has a wider variety of hair color and skin pigment than is found in any other continent in the world. These mutations are recent as Europe was colonized only a few thousand years ago, say mainstream scientists.”

          And again OCA2 stands for, curtains opening”
          *drum roll

          https://www.allacronyms.com/_medical/OCA2/Oculocutaneous_Albinism_Type_2

          “OCA2 stands for Oculocutaneous Albinism Type 2”

          BOOM!”

          Except he didn’t define the mutation itself as OCA2, it was HERC2 INTERACTION with OCA2 that caused Blue eyes.

          BTW, you should disambiguate OCA2 the gene from the disorder,

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCA2

          “And what characterizes this type of albinism?

          Damn! And again this albinism type basically again describes a vast majority of modern White Europeans, as indicated by the colors it can cause in humans on the surface. And again, obviously you are lying out of your teeth when you say that OCA2 cannot cause blue eyes, which are again DUE TO A LACK OF MELANIN IN THE EYES and a defective P-gene. Albinos also have blue eyes like Whites, BECAUSE THEY LACK MELANIN IN THE EYES AND THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE IT!”

          Except this contradicts your point on the gene that were shown to actually cause it in Europeans that gave a different type of Albinism.

          “I mean it’s obvious at this point, given everything that I’ve offered on the table so far, that modern day White Europeans are albinos and not an actual race of people, and the specific combination of Indian/South Asian albinos cross-breeding together”

          No it’s obvious that you’ll go to great lengths to distort information and impulsively build a non sequitor built on an obvious inferiority complex rather than giving me a simple list of African avhievements comparable to Aryan Horse and Iron diffusion.

        • To Gulliver,

          Corrections to my first long response:

          “White Europeans are basically two-thirds “Asian” and one-third “African”. Now since modern day white Europeans look nothing like Asians or Africans on the surface, (except for South Asians and central Asian/West Asian populations on a facial structural level), BUT THE ALBINOS OF THOSE GROUPS DO AS MY PICTURES ILLUSTRATE, THEREFORE WHITES HAVE TO BE THE SPECIFIC COMBINATION OF AFRICAN AND INDIAN/SOUTH ASIAN ALBINOS CROSS-BREEDING IN DIFFERING %’S TO PRODUCE MODERN WHITE EUROPEANS! And even geneticists like Sforza simply confirm and state the obvious…”

          See my other response, though it may’ve not appeared yet.

          “In the book Cavalli-Sforza asserts that Europeans are, in their ancestry, about two-thirds Asian and one-third African.”

          Again see response.

          “More links showing SLC24A5, and SLC24A2 causing Albinism:

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23364476

          “Exome sequencing identifies SLC24A5 as a candidate gene for nonsyndromic oculocutaneous albinism.

          Oculocutaneous albinism (OCA) is a heterogeneous and autosomal recessive disorder with hypopigmentation in the eye, hair, and skin color. Four genes, TYR, OCA2, TYRP1, and SLC45A2, have been identified as causative genes for nonsyndromic OCA1-4, respectively. The genetic identity of OCA5 locus on 4q24 is unknown. Additional unknown OCA genes may exist as at least 5% of OCA patients have not been characterized during mutational screening in several populations. We used exome sequencing with a family-based recessive mutation model to determine that SLC24A5 is a previously unreported candidate gene for nonsyndromic OCA, which we designate as OCA6.”

          And note how this contradicts what you said of OCA2 causing it as thar’s a different gene as well as my other info on these Albinism types.

          “SLC45A2:

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/51151

          “ ‘This gene encodes a transporter protein that mediates melanin synthesis. The protein is expressed in a high percentage of melanoma cell lines. Mutations in this gene are a cause of oculocutaneous albinism type 4, and polymorphisms in this gene are associated with variations in skin and hair color.’ ”

          As this shows, it’s type 4 and not type 2 as you repeatedly claimed.

          “Correction:

          “And I like how your ignorant ass ignored the fact that my links showed that only not only is OCA2 responsible for a certain type of albinism, it is ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIGHT/PALE APPEARANCE OF MANY EAST ASIAN POPULATIONS TODAY! And East Asian populations look NOTHING LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS ON THE SURFACE! Therefore again Whites have to be albinos and not a race, given all that we have learned so far above!”

          Except that contradicts everything you made about the actual genes in skin pigment.

          “The light skin and pale appearance of many North-East Asian mongoloid types, is also DERIVED FROM ALLELES RELATED TO THE OCA2 GENE! And OCA2 is an albinism gene, since OCA2 stands for OCULOCUTANEOUS ALBINISM TYPE 2!

          Yet this graph clearly shows higher densities in the SOUTH EAST.

        • To Gulliver,

          That last source you used on OCA2 and blue eyes actually said that it WAS due to adaptation.

          What happened to logic and comprehension, plus it repeated the same thing as what you described as “covering up” the facts.

        • Mike

          Gulliver, Even assuming your theory is correct, black pretender Phil will come up with sources like nnotpoticallycorrect and insist that youre wrong just to quench his passion to denigrate blacks

        • GulliverFredrich

          xoinosuilleabhain

          Here is another Indian albino man I found on social media, check him out:

          https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12144647_1098520433515630_1209057017017123515_n.jpg?oh=c90529989fa1d688456c8c7740e41dfd&oe=58FBEF27

          https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12115547_779549048820306_5473634388704972143_n.jpg?oh=af8c97bb74a6d1f5a988aae8e81dc928&oe=58F0FED3

          Now compare this guy to this Germanic Nord warrior in the fantasy game Skyrim:

          They almost look like they are the same identical person!

        • To Gulliver, no surprise when you consider the genetic history of Indians,
          and based on this, by your logic, they aren’t a race either.

          http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2009/09/24/south-asians-as-a-hybrid-popul/

          http://www.unz.com/gnxp/the-aryan-invasion-was-not-fantasy/

        • GulliverFredrich

          ^^^^Looks like somebody is failing to see the obvious, and failing at basic deductive and inductive logic again! Get back to me when you can see the obvious!

        • “^^^Looks like somebody is failing to see the obvious, and failing at basic deductive and inductive logic again! Get back to me when you can see the obvious!”

          What’s obvious is that I just debunked you on why South Asians and Europeans were so close as branches.

          The data I gave shows that the modern populations are close, this being due to Aryans INVADING and mixing with a South Asian population, not that “albinos” went to Europe.

          The fact that North Indian’s based on this cluster closer to people of West Eurasia more so than they do with South Indians proves it.

        • To Gulliver, further more this info would imply if anything Indians aren’t a race as their ancient mixed components are still discrete to an extant, with Europeans being described as MORE Homogeneous.

          Which brings me to my point on why a population having ancestry of different populations alone doesn’t mean it isn’t a cluster.

          The reason why IS this process where the “blend” with less discreteness in ancestry between individuals. If the population remain stark to some extent (like in Indian) your logic has better fruit applying to THEM.

          Their is your logic.

        • GulliverFredrich

          “Basically specifying that not only is red hair separate from albinism, but it’s unusual.”

          Actually red hair is not separate from albinism at all, please take a look at this Indian albino child and this African albino:

          Obviously using DIRECT PHYSICAL EVIDENCE in the form of these photos, we can see that albinism CAN INDEED CAUSE RED HAIR, just as it can cause different colors of hair and eyes in different subjects. There even is a type of albinism known that causes red hair in African subjects called Rufous oculocutaneous albinism, please go look that up.

          And if you read my sources, it clearly again stated that MC1R WORKS WITH OCA2 SUBJECTS TO CREATE RED HAIR IN THEM, ITS NOT STAND ALONE TO NOT WORK ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE! Clearly you have trouble with reading comprehension and basic logic skills!

          “[We identified eight probands with OCA who had red hair at birth. Mutations in the P gene were responsible for classic phenotype of oculocutaneous albinism type 2 (OCA2) in all eight, and mutations in the MC1R gene were responsible for the red (rather than yellow/blond) hair in the six of eight who continued to have red hair after birth. This is the first demonstration of a gene modifying the OCA phenotype in humans.]
          This making it even clearer.”

          Let’s read what you wrote before again, and see how you are trying to backtrap and dodge stuff. Here is your statement from before:

          “To Gulliver,
          MC1R is what is determines hair pigment in europeans, not OCA2.
          http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v39/n12/full/ng.2007.13.html
          https://en.wikipedia.org

          /wiki/Melanocortin_1_receptor#In_mammals_and_humans”

          Clearly you lied out of your ass here, because the genes that determine hair color in whites, does not need MC1R for different colors other than cases of red hair. Because as I posted in my links above, different types of OCA can result in DIFFERENT HAIR COLORS!

          OCA1 can result in white hair, while OCA2 can result in either blonde/brown hair INDEPENDENT OF MC1R; however then, the article goes on to state that mutations in the gene MC1R ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE, RESULTS IN RED HAIR IN SUBJECTS AFFECTED BY OCA2 ALBINISM!

          So, for confirmation of that statement, let’s read what I linked to says:

          “The gene MC1R doesn’t cause OCA2, but does affect its presentation.[1]”

          So, the gene MC1R DOES NOT DIRECTLY CAUSE OCA2 and I never said that OCA2 DIRECTLY CAUSES MUTATIONS IN MC1R EITHER! However, what I did say, was that MC1R WORKING ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE, CREATED RED HAIR IN OCA2 SUBJECTS!

          Which is what the quoted paragraph simply states! The writing DID NOT SAY THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR OCA SUBJECTS TO HAVE RED HAIR CAUSING MUTATIONS IN MC1R, BUT RATHER THAT IT WAS UNUSUAL, NOT IMPOSSIBLE, (two different meanings here), and then finishes off with the sentence that the OCA2 SUBJECTS WITH RED HAIR CONTINUED TO HAVE RED HAIR AFTER BIRTH BECAUSE OF THE MC1R MUTATIONS!

          And then, the ARTICLE STATES THAT MC1R MODIFIED THE USUAL OCA PHENOTYPE BECAUSE IT WORK ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE TO CREATE RED HAIR INSTEAD OF BLONDE!

          However, usual OCA2 subjects DO NOT NEED THE MC1R GENE, TO CREATE BLONDE/BROWN/WHITE HAIR, WHICH CONTRADICTS THE EARLIER MADE UP LIE AND STATEMENT YOU SAID EARLIER!

          Oh and btw, MC1R can actually cause forms of albinism, who would have known?

          http://www.jdsjournal.com/article/S0923-1811(12)00936-X/abstract
          “MC1R gene mutation and its association with oculocutaneous albinism type (OCA) phenotype in a consanguineous Pakistani family
          Normally when MC1R is stimulated by the melanocyte-stimulating hormone (MSH) eumelanin is produced while mutations in MC1R produce reduced amounts of melanin or pheomelanin that result in OCA.”

        • To Gulliver,

          “Actually red hair is not separate from albinism at all, please take a look at this Indian albino child and this African albino:”

          I meant that red hair as a mutation didn’t have to occur through albinism exclusively, as the study pointed out.

          “Obviously using DIRECT PHYSICAL EVIDENCE in the form of these photos, we can see that albinism CAN INDEED CAUSE RED HAIR, just as it can cause different colors of hair and eyes in different subjects. There even is a type of albinism known that causes red hair in African subjects called Rufous oculocutaneous albinism, please go look that up.”

          Again, just because Albinism does create red hair and other variants, that doesn’t mean these pigment variations necessarily comes from albinism itself.

          They could be caused by an INTERACTION with an occurence of albinism, but that a different concept.

          “And if you read my sources, it clearly again stated that MC1R WORKS WITH OCA2 SUBJECTS TO CREATE RED HAIR IN THEM, ITS NOT STAND ALONE TO NOT WORK ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE! Clearly you have trouble with reading comprehension and basic logic skills!”

          You seem have trouble reading as I said that red hair as a mutation and albinism were two different things, not that they were mutually exclusive.

          “[We identified eight probands with OCA who had red hair at birth. Mutations in the P gene were responsible for classic phenotype of oculocutaneous albinism type 2 (OCA2) in all eight, and mutations in the MC1R gene were responsible for the red (rather than yellow/blond) hair in the six of eight who continued to have red hair after birth. This is the first demonstration of a gene modifying the OCA phenotype in humans.]
          This making it even clearer.”

          Let’s read what you wrote before again, and see how you are trying to backtrap and dodge stuff. Here is your statement from before:

          “To Gulliver,
          MC1R is what is determines hair pigment in europeans, not OCA2.
          http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v39/n12/full/ng.2007.13.html
          https://en.wikipedia.org

          /wiki/Melanocortin_1_receptor#In_mammals_and_humans”

          Clearly you lied out of your ass here, because the genes that determine hair color in whites, does not need MC1R for different colors other than cases of red hair. Because as I posted in my links above, different types of OCA can result in DIFFERENT HAIR COLORS!”

          Except you haven;t proven that those variants weren’t caused by a similar reaction as in the case of red hair and albinism.

          Also my response to you above this one shows that MC1R is involved with other forms of hair color in europeans.

          “OCA1 can result in white hair, while OCA2 can result in either blonde/brown hair INDEPENDENT OF MC1R;”

          Again, you haven’t proven that nor have you proven that to be the cause of hair variant in europeans.

          You haven’t proven that, neither have you proven that their weren;t other ways to get blonde hair. Plus I’ve already identified the gene in Blonde hair in Europeans, now show me where that is the case with albinism.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/africans-are-not-stone-age-people/#comment-282731

          “however then, the article goes on to state that mutations in the gene MC1R ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE, RESULTS IN RED HAIR IN SUBJECTS AFFECTED BY OCA2 ALBINISM!””

          And the conclusion was that MC!R, the cause of red hair in non albinos, was the same gene in albinos. The link meaning little in the way of the development of hair pigment through OCA2.

          So, for confirmation of that statement, let’s read what I linked to says:

          “The gene MC1R doesn’t cause OCA2, but does affect its presentation.[1]”

          “So, the gene MC1R DOES NOT DIRECTLY CAUSE OCA2 and I never said that OCA2 DIRECTLY CAUSES MUTATIONS IN MC1R EITHER! However, what I did say, was that MC1R WORKING ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE, CREATED RED HAIR IN OCA2 SUBJECTS!”

          Except you claimed that OCA2 caused hair pigmentation issues as well as using red hair subjects, you never bringing up the gene until showing me the study.

          If anything this study sup[ports my point on different genes affect pigment outside of OCA2, and you haven;t provide other variants didn’t and worked in the same relationship but I didn.

          “Which is what the quoted paragraph simply states! The writing DID NOT SAY THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR OCA SUBJECTS TO HAVE RED HAIR CAUSING MUTATIONS IN MC1R, BUT RATHER THAT IT WAS UNUSUAL, NOT IMPOSSIBLE, (two different meanings here), and then finishes off with the sentence that the OCA2 SUBJECTS WITH RED HAIR CONTINUED TO HAVE RED HAIR AFTER BIRTH BECAUSE OF THE MC1R MUTATIONS!”

          Yet it sdidn;t say MC1R DIDN’T cause different hair colors, as I did.

          “And then, the ARTICLE STATES THAT MC1R MODIFIED THE USUAL OCA PHENOTYPE BECAUSE IT WORK ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE TO CREATE RED HAIR INSTEAD OF BLONDE!”

          And seeing how OCA2 itself deviates from OCA1 by producing some pigment rather than none, it’s possible that a similar relationship occurs with different hair colors as it does with red hair.

          Seeing hoe OCA2 isn’t a complete albinism, and how it does interact with the typical red hair gene, then it could be speculated that’s how the genera; spectrum works thus the traits are not albinism itself but interactions.

          “However, usual OCA2 subjects DO NOT NEED THE MC1R GENE, TO CREATE BLONDE/BROWN/WHITE HAIR, WHICH ONTRADICTS THE EARLIER MADE UP LIE AND STATEMENT YOU SAID EARLIER!”

          You actually haven’t proven that, plus when the article said “MC1R” it liekly meant that as a location where

          “Oh and btw, MC1R can actually cause forms of albinism, who would have known?

          http://www.jdsjournal.com/article/S0923-1811(12)00936-X/abstract
          “MC1R gene mutation and its association with oculocutaneous albinism type (OCA) phenotype in a consanguineous Pakistani family
          Normally when MC1R is stimulated by the melanocyte-stimulating hormone (MSH) eumelanin is produced while mutations in MC1R produce reduced amounts of melanin or pheomelanin that result in OCA.””

          Actually it talks about how a mutation in it is associated with albinism, not that it causes it.

        • GulliverFredrich

          “https://www.quora.com/Are-white-people-actually-albinos

          Here it tells the difference in the first comment, and actually that article you posted likely explains why you see similar features of whites associated with Albinism, because it triggers other genes to produce the phenotype in part but the independent gene mutation itself “like red hair” isn’t albinism.”

          None of the stuff written in that quora page actually disprove the ACTUAL sources and logic and evidence that I have posted in the comments here providing support to my claims; and actually a member there ACTUALLY PROVED THAT WHITES ARE ALBINOS ON THE COMMENTS PAGE THERE.

          And quora is pretty much an unreliable source, full of trolls and idiotic conformist morons. What you are doing is making a fallacy of argument by authority and using a very shitty source for it, because you really don’t want to admit that I’m actually 100% true about whites albinos and not a race, which is a FACT; but also because you are suspending logic and truth for your own ignorant agenda and beliefs since what I wrote completely destroys your already erroneous worldview and idiotic assumptions.

          “Also I see that either you or a similar person posted similar bullshit.”

          Not bullshit, just FACTS AND TRUTHS ABOUT WHITES BEING ALBINOS AND NOT A RACE!

          “Learn something about European genetics for real.

          http://www.unz.com/gnxp/our-magnificent-bastard-race/”

          Please I know more about European genetics and European history then your ignorant ass ever could, and can understand the hidden factors and circumstances that led to key events in European history, more than your ignorant ass ever could. I mean I did take a college level course in European history in highschool so I know this stuff. Where exactly did I state that Europeans ARE NOT MIXED OR MONGRELIZED?

          I stated that WHITE EUROPEANS ARE MIXED AND MOGRELIZED DUE TO MOVEMENTS TO EUROPE FROM AFRICA, THE MIDDLE EAST AND CENTRAL ASIA AND SIBERIA IN DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS, WHICH RESULTED IN THE DIFFERENT GENETIC MARKERS SEEN IN EUROPE TODAY! AND THIS IS A FACT THAT NEARLY ALL MODERN SCIENTISTS, GENETICISTS AND HISTORIANS AGREE ON EXCEPT IDIOTIC WHITE RACISTS!

          However, because the peoples in the different quadrants of Europe, from West to East, to North to South, ARE EITHER GENETICALLY DIVERGENT AND GENETICALLY DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER, despite some superficial similarities or differences in pigmentation and color between each other, and the body types and skeleton types and phenotypes ARE DIFFERENT ACROSS THE DIFFERENT REGIONAL QUADRANTS OF EUROPE, THEREFORE A SINGULAR WHITE EUROPEAN RACE DOES NOT INFACT EXIST AND NEVER EXISTED OBJECTIVELY!

          Please see this for proof:

          So what unites the different White Europeans groups in their “whiteness”, despite the idea of it being a rather modern invention? EASY IT’S ALBINISM! Because as my Indian albino pictures show and prove, albinos ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE BESIDES WHITE EUROPEANS THAT HAVE RED/BLONDE/BROWN HAIR, BLUE/GREEN/GREY EYES, AND PALE/LIGHT SKIN! Indian/South Asian albinos LOOK EXACTLY LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS DESPITE HAVING GENETIC DIFFERENCES FROM MANY WHITE EUROPEANS IN EUROPE!

          When you check a modern genetics and skull morphology chart of Europe, Southern Asia and the Middle East and Central Asia today, you will see that the genetic differences are significant to too much, for a singular pseudo Caucasoid race to even exist! Simply put, a WHITE RACE, IN THE RACIAL SENSE, NEVER REALLY EXISTED!

          What unites Whites across the world, irregardless of genetic differences and even phenotype differences between each other, IS THE GENETIC CONDITION OF ALBINISM! Albus, the root word for the word albino, in Latin means WHITE! WHITE PEOPLE ARE CALLED WHITE, THEREFORE WHITES ARE ALBINOS AND NOT A RACE, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE INFORMATION ABOVE! Albinos again, like White Europeans are the only people that have blonde/red/brown hair, pale skin, and blue/grey/green/hazel eyes. Ergo Whites are albinos and not a race!

          “So you are right that Europeans are mix of population (your actual populations being false though) but as you see that doesn’t stop them from being a race.”

          Not really, you simply have an elementary grasp of genetics and medical science. White Europeans ARE NOT A SINGULAR RACE AND NEVER WERE ONE! One needs to simply look at a modern genetic table chart, and a skull morphology AND PHENOTYPE chart OF THE DIFFERENT WHITE EUROPEAN GROUPS TO SEE THIS FACT GET PROVEN!

          Example:

          Let me state this again, all of the primary genetic haplogroups of modern Europe, originated from different non-white groups and peoples INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER ACROSS DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS, AND MIGRATED TO AND MIXED IN DIFFERING %’s ACROSS AND TO EUROPE, OR DID NOT, IN DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS AND DIFFERENT PLACES IN EUROPE; while originating in very non-white groups, whom being the majority holders of these European genetic markers outside of Europe, LOOK NOTHING LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS ON THE SURFACE! BUT THEIR ALBINOS DO! Therefore the simple conclusion, is that Whiteness in the superficial sense HAS TO BE ALBINISM! And I have already provided a lot of evidence for that.

          A singular Caucasoid or white race never really existed, and the whole terminology and idea of it, came about in a century and time period where pseudo-scientific ideas were accepted depending on whether they accompanied popular ideas at the time, and modern hard critical scientific questioning and analysis was not the norm. There was no modern medical or genetic or scientific testing or instruments being utilized for ideas, for ideas such as these when the Caucasoid term came about, and people used flawed analysis and measurements to come up with bullshit concepts and ideas like a “white race”…

        • “Fool! THE ARTICLE STATED THAT MC1R WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR RED HAIR, WORKING ALONGSIDE THE OCA2 GENE, WHICH IS AN ALBINISM GENE, TO CREATE RED HAIR AND FRECKLES IN WHITE EUROPEANS!”

          You claiming MC1R with albinism creating red hair and freckles in whites, when I proved you wrong.

          What was that about lying?

          Also, lets see your argument, that since OCA2 causes variants in hair pigment, it must be the cause of such in europeans.

          The problem there is that you haven’t proven that those to be logically exclusive to albinism, otherwise explain my example with melanesians having it.

          You can’t use the blue eye albinism argument because just having blue eyes means two things, Waardenburg (which occurs at a rate close to the rate Black Africans have it, 1/40000) or has been noted a HERC2 gene mutation, which is different from the disorder of OCA2, it justs interacts with the OCA2 gene.

        • “https://www.quora.com/Are-white-people-actually-albinos

          Here it tells the difference in the first comment, and actually that article you posted likely explains why you see similar features of whites associated with Albinism, because it triggers other genes to produce the phenotype in part but the independent gene mutation itself “like red hair” isn’t albinism.”

          “None of the stuff written in that quora page actually disprove the ACTUAL sources and logic and evidence that I have posted in the comments here providing support to my claims; and actually a member there ACTUALLY PROVED THAT WHITES ARE ALBINOS ON THE COMMENTS PAGE THERE.

          And quora is pretty much an unreliable source, full of trolls and idiotic conformist morons. What you are doing is making a fallacy of argument by authority and using a very shitty source for it, because you really don’t want to admit that I’m actually 100% true about whites albinos and not a race, which is a FACT;”

          Except that I refuted you on the genes involved and their relation to OCA2 albinism that you claim.
          “but also because you are suspending logic and truth for your own ignorant agenda and beliefs since what I wrote completely destroys your already erroneous worldview and idiotic assumptions.”

          Cite me.

          “Also I see that either you or a similar person posted similar bullshit.”

          “Not bullshit, just FACTS AND TRUTHS ABOUT WHITES BEING ALBINOS AND NOT A RACE!”

          Except I disproved that.

          “Learn something about European genetics for real.

          “http://www.unz.com/gnxp/our-magnificent-bastard-race/”

          Please I know more about European genetics and European history then your ignorant ass ever could, and can understand the hidden factors and circumstances that led to key events in European history, more than your ignorant ass ever could. I mean I did take a college level course in European history in highschool so I know this stuff. Where exactly did I state that Europeans ARE NOT MIXED OR MONGRELIZED?”

          No, my point was since they were mixed of populations (which I added context to) it didn’t prove that they were mixed race.

          Also you are using a HISTORY CLASS over an actual scientific article? Who was talking about agenda and crazed logic?

          “I stated that WHITE EUROPEANS ARE MIXED AND MOGRELIZED DUE TO MOVEMENTS TO EUROPE FROM AFRICA, THE MIDDLE EAST AND CENTRAL ASIA AND SIBERIA IN DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS, WHICH RESULTED IN THE DIFFERENT GENETIC MARKERS SEEN IN EUROPE TODAY! AND THIS IS A FACT THAT NEARLY ALL MODERN SCIENTISTS, GENETICISTS AND HISTORIANS AGREE ON EXCEPT IDIOTIC WHITE RACISTS!”

          Except I added context to those mixtures.

          “However, because the peoples in the different quadrants of Europe, from West to East, to North to South, ARE EITHER GENETICALLY DIVERGENT AND GENETICALLY DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER, despite some superficial similarities or differences in pigmentation and color between each other, and the body types and skeleton types and phenotypes ARE DIFFERENT ACROSS THE DIFFERENT REGIONAL QUADRANTS OF EUROPE, THEREFORE A SINGULAR WHITE EUROPEAN RACE DOES NOT INFACT EXIST AND NEVER EXISTED OBJECTIVELY!”

          Except I disproved that by comparing them with Indians.

          “Please see this for proof:

          So what unites the different White Europeans groups in their “whiteness”, despite the idea of it being a rather modern invention? EASY IT’S ALBINISM! Because as my Indian albino pictures show and prove, albinos ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE BESIDES WHITE EUROPEANS THAT HAVE RED/BLONDE/BROWN HAIR, BLUE/GREEN/GREY EYES, AND PALE/LIGHT SKIN! Indian/South Asian albinos LOOK EXACTLY LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS DESPITE HAVING GENETIC DIFFERENCES FROM MANY WHITE EUROPEANS IN EUROPE!”

          Except those are sex chromosome variants, not autosomes. I’ve already discussed genetic affinity and structure so see that.

          “When you check a modern genetics and skull morphology chart of Europe, Southern Asia and the Middle East and Central Asia today, you will see that the genetic differences are significant to too much, for a singular pseudo Caucasoid race to even exist! Simply put, a WHITE RACE, IN THE RACIAL SENSE, NEVER REALLY EXISTED!”

          Except I disproved that using data from the same scientist you cited.

          “What unites Whites across the world, irregardless of genetic differences and even phenotype differences between each other, IS THE GENETIC CONDITION OF ALBINISM! Albus, the root word for the word albino, in Latin means WHITE! WHITE PEOPLE ARE CALLED WHITE, THEREFORE WHITES ARE ALBINOS AND NOT A RACE, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE INFORMATION ABOVE! Albinos again, like White Europeans are the only people that have blonde/red/brown hair, pale skin, and blue/grey/green/hazel eyes. Ergo Whites are albinos and not a race!”

          Accept I disproved you contention of it being OCA2 based on you mixing up different albinism with different genes

          “So you are right that Europeans are mix of population (your actual populations being false though) but as you see that doesn’t stop them from being a race.”

          “Not really, you simply have an elementary grasp of genetics and medical science. White Europeans ARE NOT A SINGULAR RACE AND NEVER WERE ONE! One needs to simply look at a modern genetic table chart, and a skull morphology AND PHENOTYPE chart OF THE DIFFERENT WHITE EUROPEAN GROUPS TO SEE THIS FACT GET PROVEN!”

          So you are arguing genetic/phenotypical variation disproves it? You see the same thing with Mongoloids and Negroids.

          You were the one who ignored genetic data by misusing haplogroups and

          Example:

          Let me state this again, all of the primary genetic haplogroups of modern Europe, originated from different non-white groups and peoples INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER ACROSS DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS, AND MIGRATED TO AND MIXED IN DIFFERING %’s ACROSS AND TO EUROPE, OR DID NOT, IN DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS AND DIFFERENT PLACES IN EUROPE; while originating in very non-white groups, whom being the majority holders of these European genetic markers outside of Europe, LOOK NOTHING LIKE WHITE EUROPEANS ON THE SURFACE!”

          I have pointed that out but your conclusion from that is flawed as them not being a true race.

          ” BUT THEIR ALBINOS DO! Therefore the simple conclusion, is that Whiteness in the superficial sense HAS TO BE ALBINISM! And I have already provided a lot of evidence for that.””

          And I’ve refuted it.

          “A singular Caucasoid or white race never really existed, and the whole terminology and idea of it, came about in a century and time period where pseudo-scientific ideas were accepted depending on whether they accompanied popular ideas at the time, and modern hard critical scientific questioning and analysis was not the norm. There was no modern medical or genetic or scientific testing or instruments being utilized for ideas, for ideas such as these when the Caucasoid term came about, and people used flawed analysis and measurements to come up with bullshit concepts and ideas like a “white race”…”

          Except I’ve Luigi_Luca_Cavalli-Sforza’s actual book and disproved you on that.

        • “No, my point was since they were mixed of populations (which I added context to) it didn’t prove that they were mixed race.”

          I meant that it didn;t prove they weren’t a race and i proved that through genetic comparisons of affinity variance between and within Indians and Europeans.

    • Hotdog

      Seeing other races and cultures as primative is not a white nationalist trait. They are more honest and upfront about views everyone has. Frankly, normies are often more anti-black because hating black is rather low level reactionary wheras a seasoned white nationalist will focus more on the jewish elite.

      • HOTDOG If you are a white Nationalist the chances are you have had an unsuccessful life. There has been youthful drug use, some minor jail time, some kids through failed relationships, an educational level that qualifies you for less.

        Then you blame Jewish dentists or lawyers on the East Coast for the fact that you had a kid when you were 21 without an advanced degree, have little influence or authority blah de blah de blah.

        • Hotdog

          Being against degeneracy does not make one degenerate, quite the contrary. I blame the elite jews ie. the media bosses that cover for child sex rings, promote pedophilia through their media, ect.

  2. Agriculture itself rose in Africa. Africans were probably the first humans to practice agriculture.

    According to Michael Hart, agriculture did not emerge independently in Africa, it spread there from the Middle East.

  3. I took African Civ I and II for my history degree. Most African civilizations developed metallurgy the same time as everyone else and African metal industries kept up with the rest of the world, falling behind only when steel developed.

      • My Brother actually watched this alot to learn about African History. Overall, not a bad source for those who like modern teachings of African Culture.

        • ROOTS Remake is ghastly White Guilt Pornography BUT DOES illustrate that after ONE GENERATION in America the African was bred out of American blacks through interactions with Irish, Cornish and Scottish populations of the Mid-South and later Plains Indians/Cherokees.

          As Kunta Kinte noted to himself in the film, those pure African-Americans were a “mixture of Wolof, Fulahi, Mandika” on a single plantation in Virginia to which Gambia river slave traders had been shipping their victims.

          What would THIS MAN (A Mulatto with considerable white and possibly Amerindian) have some insight into African culture?

        • “What would THIS MAN (A Mulatto with considerable white and possibly Amerindian) have some insight into African culture?”

          Aside from the chin and skin tone, the width of his general features and nose doesn’t exactly scream “mulatto”. Mixed to some extent, sure.

          Second, just because he isn’t African doesn’t mean he can’t study and discuss the cultures in Africa.

          That would limit his ability in terms of actual experience but not actual knowledge.

        • Jason Y

          As Kunta Kinte noted to himself in the film, those pure African-Americans were a “mixture of Wolof, Fulahi, Mandika” on a single plantation in Virginia to which Gambia river slave traders had been shipping their victims.

          Considering these tribes hated each other as much as the English and the French, or differing Amerindian tribes, wouldn’t it be hard to get them to work together.

        • Jason Y

          ROOTS Remake is ghastly White Guilt Pornography

          But so much of it is true! A minority percentage of owners were psychos. However, right-wing whites, especially in the south, don’t want to hear nothing of it! Especially poor southern whites don’t want to hear of it. Note, I’m not bashing the working class, but just stating a fact.

        • TJF

          To Trash:

          What would THIS MAN (A Mulatto with considerable white and possibly Amerindian) have some insight into African culture?

          Looks like a regular black American guy to me, perhaps with the typical 15% – 25% European admixture. Even if he were a mulatto why shouldn’t he have an interest in African culture…?

  4. Even in the Americas agriculture was widespread, even in cultures that didn’t have metallurgy. Many, if not most, of the Plains tribes were farmers before they acquired horses and adapted a nomadic lifestyle. None of them had metal. For the cultures who did, such as the Andean and Mesoamerican civilizations, I’m not aware of them using metal for anything beyond art and jewelry, and they had the most sophisticated agriculture of all.

  5. Jason Y

    With the exception of bluegrass, the music is a lot better in the US, mainly due to African influence, aside from some types of heavy metal.

    I’m very glad we didn’t become like Canada or New Zealand cause the culture would be so boring.

    • And NAMS sell many shoes overseas and Tacos which contributes economically but overall Australia has a higher standard of living, less welfare, less crime, a better infrastructure, longer life expectancy.

      I’m not convinced this is because white Americans are less intelligent than Australian whites.

      Meanwhile the U.S. is now becoming a bigger third-world country-brutal police in black uniforms instead of the friendly sheriff, racial divisions, political divisions (There would have been a Revolution if Hillary were elected, but liberals will stay home with their marijuana and their wine and their gay partner or one-child wife to complain about).

      Australia has none of this. New Zealand a bit more.

      • Tulio

        “Australia has a higher standard of living, less welfare, less crime, a better infrastructure, longer life expectancy.”

        Australia doesn’t have 4 decades of Reaganomics. And before you tell me that we’ve had Democratic presidents since Reagan, we haven’t had a true left wing president. Clinton and Obama anywhere else in the world would be considered center-right. They are only “left” relative to a nation steeped in Reaganism.

        In other countries, they have a more pragmatic understanding of the good that can come from government and more equal distribution of wealth. Only in America is the idea of universal health care even controversial. Most industrial nations would never allow their students to be over a trillion in student loan debt without something being done about it.

        Race plays a factor in many things, but race is not an explanation for EVERYTHING.

        • Juan Carlos

          What is very interesting to me is that it is not the increasing non-White numbers or integration that in and of itself causes White decline, rather, its White reactions to that.

          Take, for example, Ronald Reagan.
          Voting for a guy that’s going to screw over 90% of Whites just because he makes a pit stop in the Mississippi burning town in his Presidential campaign?

          really?

        • If Al Gore had been elected in 2000, another narrow election from the Clinton camp, the United States might have maintained its step with British Commonwealth countries like N.Z., CAN, Aus.

          Stupid wars, stock bubble bursts, tax breaks for the rich who were also lobbyists and voters.

          Obama could not do much during his 8 years and the improved economy has nothing to do with Trump but he will be credited for it.

        • Australians do cope with a people who were quite backward.

          As for taxing the rich…it’s a safety net under the tightrope of less economic growth depending on the economic theory.

          Sort of irrelevant now because rich people will simply open their factory in Bangladesh…No taxes is not going to stimulate the economy.

          People will probably buy shoes every 6 months at Wal-Mart if Trump actually moves the companies back to the U.S. as the price rises and things that are made in China will have a pricey tariff on them.

        • Jason Y

          However, that brings to mind something else. Wouldn’t shoemaking eventually be replaced by robots, or is Trump going to ban them?

          How about the WN robot? 😆 DIE NIGGER LOVER !!! GOOK LOVER !!! FAGGOT zap zap dead.

      • Jason Y

        It would surprise you how racist pot smokers can be. Some of the most vicious racists, of any race, smoke it every day. The whole hippie/pot thing is a myth. It has not mellowed out many.

        • Violent racists are the way they are BECAUSE THEY STARTED SMOKING POT AT 13,14 when middle-class kids are sneaking cigarettes. Their parents don’t notice or care. Anyhow, pot is a gateway and by 15 they are into crystal meth or crack or heroin.

          As adults they notice they have nothing. A GED and that is all. No qualifications, a minor criminal record, no contacts of any kind who can give them a job in the white-collar world. Usually their parents cannot send them to college anyhow. They cannot qualify for loans. So they are screwed.

          They harbor anger to Asians, Jews and liberals who have a job. Blacks they dislike through proximity because they lack the earning power to live anywhere besides areas with the black underclass. Unless they poor rural whites.

          Liberals are usually from middle-class families and attended university. They start with cigarettes at 15 and maybe drink in high school but do not become mega-potheads until they enter college at 18. By the time they start smoking pot as healthy young adults at 18-20 their brain is fully developed.

      • Jason Y

        I don’t like other Anglo nations. Thier culture is lame because they don’t have the jive influence of the blacks. I’m definitely a cultural racist for sure. American culture is the best !!

  6. Jason Y

    Blacks and other NAMS have a wealth of creativity. I consider that a very powerful human resource. Music and public speaking, for instance, can move minds and culture.

    • Define “creativity”. Expressiveness though verbal traits and extroversion then yes.

      Creativity meaning ingenuity in a diverse set then I doubt.

      • Tulio

        Black music. Pretty much every nation blacks have arrived in, blacks have been at the forefront of musical innovation. In Latin America, samba, salsa, cumbia. In the Caribbean reggae, ska, rocksteady. In North America, gospel, jazz, soul, blues, R&B, hiphop, house, rock n roll, doowop, techno, funk. In the UK, trip hop, drum n bass, jungle as examples.

        • Those I agree with.

          I meant “creativity” in other ways it could be applied like with science, mecahnics, or literature (verbal yes, though favors introversion more times than not).

          Also, even if we are to count music, exactly how would whites even be lacking if we to count artists within those genres like Jazz or Rock?

          I can get being strengths, my point is that they can be overstated without the right context.

        • Jason Y

          Black music. Pretty much every nation blacks have arrived in, blacks have been at the forefront of musical innovation. In Latin America, samba, salsa, cumbia. In the Caribbean reggae, ska, rocksteady. In North America, gospel, jazz, soul, blues, R&B, hiphop, house, rock n roll, doowop, techno, funk. In the UK, trip hop, drum n bass, jungle as examples.

          Absolutely.

      • In all fairness R&B, Rap, Hip-Hop have more or less replaced bass-blasting grunge, hard rock or anything involving a guitar. A few whiny pasty white singers are left and the odd boy band but the days of Wayne’s World bands on the charts or even grunge are gone….

        Extroversion is a NAM trait because consequential thinking does not really seem to feature and also many (Not all, but enough) are incapable of growth or change through any experience. They do or say what they feel like at the moment.

        Mestizos are not expressive verbally. Or extroverted. Their like a coiled snake.

        • Jason Y

          I’m wondering if that’s really due to increased multiculturalism, or actually due to the fact that free music downloading has smashed the music industry, destroying the incentive for musicians to be the best.

        • Jason Y

          Also, the Kiss guitarist was arguing in one article saying “Where are the Beatles? Where is Alice in Chains?”

          He has a point. There were supergroups in the past, even among hip-hop, but none today.

  7. Africans are very nice people and I’m friend with a few of them. If you want to call anyone stone age, please call indians that.

    As for the ghetto trash African Americans who get into fights in McDonalds and Burger King on YouTube, well that’s another story. But Africans from Africa itself are pretty good people.

    • Jason Y

      You lumping all African Americans into the same group, though it sounds politically correct, there would be a large difference between small-town blacks and certain ones in major cities.

    • A Nigerian day trader in Manhattan is no more similar to a ghetto NAM than an English butler is to a Florida pine barrens poor rural white.

      In both cases, there is some Native American admixture. On a genetic level, NAMS are not Africa (Entirely) and rural whites are not “Nordic” (Being of primarily Anglo-Celtic with tiny Amerindian admixture0.

    • Nigerian day traders are no more similar to a ghetto NAM than an English squire is similar to a Florida pine barrens cracker.

      Also note that many NAM’S in the suburbs are more intelligent than I am, better qualified in more respectable professions, wealthier and altogether superior to me.

      In both the case of the NAM and the rural white there is some degree of Amerindian admixture.

      Calling a Pine barrens cracker who is mostly Anglo-Celtic with 12% Seminole Native from a great-grandmother a “Nordic” is about as ridiculous as comparing a NAM ghetto black to an educated African immigrant.

      • I’m not talking about educated blacks who are well behaved. I’m talking about the trashy shitheads that get into fights in fast food joints, the videos you always see on youtube.

        As for Africans from Africa, they are more simple and a lot less aggressive than african americans, although I still am a bit intimidated by them of course. But African girls from Africa are also very feminine and traditional, some of the hottest women on earth are from Lagos, Nigeria. If you don’t believe me, download Tinder and a fake GPS enabler, and go start right swiping in Lagos, Nigeria and see the quality of women there. And I also got a super high rate of right swipes there and had like 150 matches within 48 hours. So African women are clearly hungry for white men too.

        If I didn’t live in India, I’d definitely go move to Nigeria and pound that jungle pussy all day and night.

        • Africans in India manage to make a decent living and African-Americans never visit India so how would you meet or be intimidated by one at all?

        • An example: on Tinder for Lagos, Nigeria, I was directly telling girls “Let’s meet and ride each other’s brains out” and about 30% of the time, they were fully ready and were eager to meet me for sex.

          Whereas using the same line on Tinder in India will get the girl acting all offended and act like a fucking cunt before she blocks you. Indian girls are very repressed and if you directly talk about sex to them, they get very uncomfortable.

          This is why India is so sexually repressed, cause of the women. The majority of indian men that I know are quite open sexually and have no issues with casual sex. It’s indian women who are still hung up and sexually repressed and no one is forcing them to be that way. Most men would be quite happy if indian women were more sexually open, although there would still be slut shaming of course from the lower class and uncivilized group of men.

          India’s just a very sexually fucked up place and it has always been like this and will always be like that.

          If the police go ahead and start cracking down on prostitution, well you can be certain the rape rate is going to dramatically increase. Prostitution that is basically tolerated is the only reason India hasn’t turned into a massive rape fest yet. If it ever becomes illegal and cracked down on, most men will start going fucking insane and just raping and killing women in the street.

    • Lol bro. Your obsession with Indians is kind of weird. You bring them up in every comment. I’m sure you know that South India is doi g extremely well.

      • South India is doing well? Karnataka? Tamil Nadu?

        Cochin has had a long link with the Gulf and their labor force has created a remissions economy that the Socialist government sort of distributes better than raw capitalist North India.

        Chennai not as well. Bangalore yes, because of foreign investment.

        South Indians shrugged off Delhi and sought foreign investment/support. Without this they would be screwed.

        Prior to IT, which South Indians excel at, South India up to 1995 was a backwater.

  8. Optimus Prime

    “Nigerian day traders are no more similar to a ghetto NAM than an English squire is similar to a Florida pine barrens cracker.”

    LOL My God!!how do you come up with phrases like that?? Are you working some where as writer Trash??

    • OPTIMUS Not since the decline of print media in the 1990’s. I was a journalist by degree and an advertising copywriter by trade but made most of my money with two produced screenplays.

      Beyond that, I am reluctant to release more details.

      • Optimus Prime

        Fair enough, this is internet anonymity should reign supreme. You must not give up on writing. You’re damn good at that.

        • OPTIMUS Blogs are wear people express how they truly feel, isn’t it. Like the story about the masked ball and the killer

          All of my opinions might be totally wrong. They’re only mine.

        • OPTIMUS Thank you.

          I don’t see the point of calling bloggers with opposing views profanities. My point of views are based upon evidence, though not statistics.

          Possibly, I’m totally wrong.

  9. OPTIMUS I began my professional life as a staff reporter for a small Midwestern city newspaper and was then a copy writer at an ad agency before 2 of my screenplays were produced into medium-budget and low-budget feature-length fiction motion pictures.

    I would be reluctant to reveal any further details about myself. Anonymity is the sole purpose of blogs.

    Anyhow all I have is an opinion which might be totally wrong.

  10. I wonder how White nationalist feel about IQ being linked to the mother/X-Chromosome.

    • To the extent that African-Americans are a by-product of Cornish and Irish males perpetrating colonial rape against West African girls-disgusting and shameful-I think some of this link might have some firm truth.

      How many fathers do we know who are bright and successful men with loser sons because they married some trophy wife model whose IQ was not so high.

      • Hotdog

        Back when a black slaves life was worth more than Irish, Irish slave girls were forced breed with negros to increase their offsprings value.

        • “Irish slaves” are a myth. Indentured servant =/= slave.

        • Hotdog

          http://settingrecordstraight.blogspot.ca/2015/03/irish-forgotten-white-slaves.html?m=1
          I’m more interested in how they were treated, not keeping in-line with the SPLC type narrative to downplay what happened to whites in general. The fact remains, the Irish seen as personal property had a higher mortality rate than the African-Americans seen as personal property.

        • Jason Y

          Why would breeding with Irish slave girls increase the slave’s value when the racist owners, who often thought blacks to be dumb, wanted stronger fieldhands?

        • To Jason, the logic was that since African slaves were more expensive then the offspring would have higher value than a pure Irish one.

        • I’m more interested in how they were treated, not keeping in-line with the SPLC type narrative to downplay what happened to whites in general. The fact remains, the Irish seen as personal property had a higher mortality rate than the African-Americans seen as personal property.

          Indentured servitude—A person under contract to work for another person for a definite period of time, usually without pay but in exchange for free passage to a new country. Not even going to talk about this garbage you linked. Do you have any primary sources?

          Even then, all peoples were treated badly at some point or another. Why must people write straight untrue garbage? Oh yea, all sides play identity politics. It’s so damn stupid.

          Please provide a primary source, thank you.

        • To Stan Lee, hence why I said “somewhere around 18 being more representative”, not 18 itself.

          Furthermore, I was talking specifically of those of black ancestry due to their IQs typically not being retain, but the actual age was 25 when the finally stabilize,

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/blacks-close-the-black-white-iq-gap/

          regardless, the ages you gave still weren’t good enough.

    • Hotdog

      I wonder how jews feel about white nationalism and white supremacy being seperate.

      • Most do not care about either, truthfully.

        Neither do Indian-Americans, East Asians or any other group in the white-collar bracket concentrated on the Northeast and Southwest.

        White nationalists are either rural or exurb whites in Flyover Land.

        After Vietnam the draft ended and that terminated any further concern that some Cowboy president elected by rural poor whites would draft their kids into a war-volunteer army these days.

        Rural whites have so little impact on anybody’s everyday life in New York or Los Angeles that their politics are not relevant.

        • Hotdog

          Those white collar bracket Indians and East Asians can be as ethno-centric, pro-race, ect. as they want to be, whereas a white who has racial integrity, regard, ect. better bend the knee and be prepared to kiss all the cheeks of the anti-white establishment. If a white collared white is a man, they risk losing their job like Dr. William Luther Pierce.

        • To Hotdog

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Luther_Pierce

          While you may have a point with other cases, this one is quite too overt to compare to the ethnocentrism of immigrants.

        • Hotdog

          A non-white equivalent or even more extreme version of Dr. William Luther Pierce would be far more likely to keep his job.
          Most college professors I’ve had were essentially more crafty versions of:

          The narrative and agenda were essentially the same cultural marxist “blame whitey” blather.

        • Oh, I thought you used him as a general example.

          If you mean to control from extremity, then yes I agree.

    • It’s been known for years, so these WN should keep up on new data. Like how the Aryans aren’t blonde haired and blue eyed.

      • I remember when I showed an extremely racist WN on YouTube this. He strongly argued that mixed people have IQs between blacks and whites as a reason against miscegenation. But the fact that children of BM/WW and daughters of WM/BW having the same IQ as whites was just too much for him. He broke down and made another account to pose as me in an attempt to ruin my name. 😂

        I wonder if they will try to support eugenics now…

        • Hotdog

          WNs often say jews always make it a black and white issue, I wonder if jews are secretly against BM/JW and JM/BW mixes….

        • xoinosuilleabhain

          I know Robert and others on this site consider Jew/Arabs to be white, but here’s a blurb I often post on Youtube to fuck with WNs consistent with the most “conservative” WN worldview (which obviously does not view Middle Easterners as white):

          The Jews are the product of an ancient miscegenation event. Tracking their paternal and maternal genetics separately indicates that a group of Levantine males came out of Palestine around 500-700AD to settle in Ashkenaz (Germany) as well as Spain/Italy. They mated with local European females and subsequently froze Jewish identity through the maternal aspect of their pedigree. If you claim to be a White Nationalist but are fine with Jews, you are admitting to cuck-dom in the most literal way imaginable.

        • Jason Y

          Why would an IQ between blacks and whites be a bad thing? The blacks are becoming smarter. You see, WNs bitch about black crime and whatnot, yet oppose real methods to decrease it.

        • Jason Y,

          Because those methods to decrease it are mixing with whites. Average white IQ fans while the average black IQ rises.

        • Because those methods to increase it are mixing with whites. Average white IQ falls while the average black IQ rises.**

        • @RaceRealist

          Isn’t that the whole reason why they are obsessed with IQ? Now that that’s down the toilet what argument do they have against miscegenation?

        • I believe you are talking about the Eyferth Study, which was actually flawed as it’s “Black soldiers” were 20% North Africans as well as the soldiers between the African and White Soldiers being screened for IQ at different proportions different, so it wasn’t representative.

          https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/09/27/is-hbd-an-ideology-of-hatred-and-racism-a-reply-to-robert-lindsay/#comment-930

        • @Phil

          Its not just that study but pretty much every study on the matter.

        • To Stan Lee,
          Can you be specific? As for “every study on the matter” would be wrong as most of the time I’ve found intermediate measures being the result, but are you specifically referring to BM/WW?

          can you show an actual study showing this along with restests at later age?

          I aware that mixed race children with white mothers have higher IQs than with a black mother, but can you actually prove that it’s the same as white IQs throughout lifetime?

        • TJF

          To Stan Lee:

          But the fact that children of BM/WW and daughters of WM/BW having the same IQ as whites was just too much for him.

          Do you have links to these studies..? I’d like to see them.

        • TJF

          To Phil:

          I believe you are talking about the Eyferth Study, which was actually flawed as it’s “Black soldiers” were 20% North Africans as well as the soldiers between the African and White Soldiers being screened for IQ at different proportions different, so it wasn’t representative…. can you show an actual study showing this along with restests at later age?

          The Eyferth study would have been more interesting with a follow up of the children when they were young adults (The median age of the children was 10, eg not an adult IQ) or at least a more modern study of adult mixed race blacks in modern Germany or Britain (more than a million). As it stands the study raises more questions than it answers.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyferth_study#Study_design
          “The children studied had been raised by their unmarried German mothers. All of the fathers, white or black, had been members of the US occupation forces stationed in Germany. At the time of the study, the children were aged between 5 and 13 (mean age: 10). The mothers of the children were approximately matched for socio-economic status; they were mostly of low SES. There were about 98 mixed race (black-white), and about 83 white children in the sample.”

        • To TJF,

          That would be indeed, as I’ve rarely heard of a mixed race IQ study that was long termed and focused in species mixed pairings.

          As for the Maternal IQ idea, the correlation has been found to be stronger based on focused examination on parental genes contributing more to the Hypothalamus and the maternal genes more towards direct intelligence, but as you said I figured it wasn’t that simple.

        • @TJF @Phil

          A study done by Willerman, Naylor and Myrianthopoulos in 1974.

          Now if you want older here are CAT scores from 12-13 years which strongly correlate with IQ.

        • To Stan Lee,

          Well looking at the background of the study,

          http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01066706

          These children were extremely young so those IQs were representative for a standard age to begin with.

          Second that other graph you gave were of immigrants, who wouldn’t be representative for a population in any case, let alone that 12-13 years old doesn’t present adult IQ, somewhere around 18 being more representative.

        • To Stan Lee,

          I meant not representative. Another obvious note I should make is that the second chart wasn’t even from the same sample due to it being from a different study all together.

        • I know they were very young. That’s why I said “Now if you want older” before posting the second chart.

          Were all those mixed kids immigrants? Because it has an “any kind of mix” category that says the same thing. And I know its from a different test. I did say that there were other studies(plural) that show the same thing.

        • My point was that with “kids”, typically I would expect maybe 8 or 10 but at four years old that’s barely even starting school. Of course, fair enough, you provided later tests…still problems.

          As I’ve pointed out, not even the same sample, specifically being immigrants. You can tell by the categories and mean scores for each.

          https://pumpkinperson.com/2014/12/31/the-impressive-intelligence-of-african-immigrants/

          They say mixed with African/Carribean, those being black immigrants groups, plus it doesn’t even specify the race of the parents.

          And, as I pointed out before, 12-13 years isn’t representative of adult IQ with 18 years for so being better.

          The author of this blog has post on IQ in blacks decreasing up until around that point.

        • Also, “any other mix background” weakens you case due to that likely not being black hybrids.

        • I’ve read that most of the abilities measured by an IQ test tend to level off around age 16, not 18.

    • TJF

      To Stan Lee:
      I wonder how White nationalist feel about IQ being linked to the mother/X-Chromosome.

      It’s not….or perhaps I should say – the mother’s IQ is more likely to play a part in the child’s IQ but there are many factors at play:

      https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2016/10/10/no-not-inherit-intelligence-mothers-genes/

      http://www.snopes.com/intelligence-is-inherited-only-from-your-mother/

      Aside from that – taking race out of the equation and even IQ – substantial portions of (negative or positive) personality can also be inherited from the father.

      A brilliant and kind Jewish female doctor who has a child with a thuggish white guy (even if he is not in picture) may produce a child who inherits some of less pleasant traits of the father.

  11. Early Lesbian Pygmy sculpture

    Give up this white nationalist, race realism stuff and concentrate on what matters. Concentrate on delicious healthy meals cooked in Finland by the finest Finnish chefs.

    • You concentrate on the stinking Tumeric and curry and spices that make your kitchen and body and breath stink so badly.

      • Early Lesbian Pygmy sculpture

        Inshallah u will be roasted and served with plenty of garlic, turmeric and masala. Your penis will be stuffed into your mouth as your roasted head is the centre piece of the feast. Your brain will be fed to the pigs as no one wants that low IQ wreck to eat.

        • Poggle. Some Indian females have eaten my penis but I would not allow you to.

        • Under a full moon for Eid Mubarak?

        • Early Lesbian Pygmy sculpture

          Inshallah the Indian females ripped off the tiny penis with great force and cooked it in oil and then covered it batter and fed it to the pigs. Feeding you to the pigs is what you are worth. A feast for for pigs;inshallah the fattest pigs in India will come to the banquet. Your penis cooked and placed in your mouth with your roasted head looking delicious for the pigs to eat.

  12. Maybe buy Tumeric and Curry leaves and Chili peppers so my kitchen and Body Odor and breath are stinking as your South Asia carcass.

    I can almost smell it on your blogs you nonsensical Desi.

  13. Stone Age people don’t have agriculture.

    Um yes they do. Re: Mesoamericans. The Maya farmed cassava, beans, maize, teosinte, etc. Where did you hear that Stone Age people didn’t have agriculture?

    The Maya were also entering the Bronze Age before they disappeared.

  14. Stone Age and Bronze age are different epochs. Agriculture is traditionally regarded as the beginning of civilization which separates it from the Stone Age.

  15. We all were at various epochs but they were highly advanced when the Spanish arrived.

    • Early Lesbian Pygmy sculpture

      U can never be highly evolved. You are Fit for pigs to eat with plenty of turmeric and masala. You have devolved not evolved. You have devolved to pig food.

      • More evolved than a low-caste Indian madman who probably still lives with his parents when he is 35 years old.

        • Early Lesbian Pygmy sculpture

          Your insults are trash like your name. U have not got the wit to come up with anything intelligent. You are just low IQ pig food and to be accused by you of being anything beyond that is a step up you fucking moron. Accusing me of being anything higher up on the evolutionary ladder is fine. Logic idiot. Learn some logic. But your idiot brain is probably hurting now since you are having to digest some simple information.

  16. Bangladeshi women eat the penis the best of all women in South Asia in my long experience of using brown women for my sexual perversions.

  17. LESBIAN SCULPTURE Cannot follow your logic. Sorry.

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