Some Unbelievable Propaganda Against “Racemixing”

RL: Defects in what way?

Race Realist: In a study of 100,000 mixed-race adolescent school children, those who identified themselves as such had higher health and behavior instances than those of one race. The effect was still observed even when SES and other factors were controlled for. A problem with an obvious genetic component.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

Yet another study done on white-Asian mixes notes that they have a two times higher rate to be diagnosed with psychological problems such as anxiety, depression and substance abuse.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-08/uoc–baa081108.php

It was found, in agreement that black-white mixes engaged in more risky behavior than did mono-racial children. They also observe that mixed-race adolescents are stark outliers in comparison to whites and blacks, which still holds true despite being raised in similar environments to mono-racial children.

http://www.msu.edu/~renn/RHE-_mixed_race.pdf

Black and white couples also conceive children at around half the success of white male/female couples. And the aforementioned bone marrow/blood transfusion problems.

That’s all 100% sociological. We do not have a lot of mixed race people in this country, so the kids have some psychological stuff. But if you look at places were mixed race people are everywhere or even the norm, you see no such behavioral problems, and I’ve never heard of any health problems.

Whites and Asians are mixed to Hell in Central Asia all the way to Mongolia and Siberia. Any problems? Nope. Whites and Australoids are mixed to Hell in India. Any problems? Of course not. Asians and Australoids are mixed in Japan (20% Australoid). Any problems? Of course not. Asians and Australoids are also mixed in Philippines, Indonesia, coastal Papua New Guinea, Melanesia, Polynesia and Micronesia? Any problems? Of course not. Whites, Australoids and Asians are mixing heavily now in Singapore and have been for some time in Malaysia in general. Any problems? Of course not. The entire Southeast Asian stock was created by recent mass-mixing of Australoids and Asians? Any issues? Of course not.

Whites and Indians are mixed to Hell all over Latin America. Any problems or issues? Well, of course not. Whites and Blacks are mixed all over the Caribbean, the Middle East and North Africa? Any problems? Well, of course not. White, Indians and Blacks are mixed in Panama, Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, and Brazil. And even in Argentina. Any problems? Well, of course not.

Where are all these horrible health and behavioral problems you guys keep yelling about? They don’t exist.

Black and white couples also conceive children at around half the success of white male/female couples. And the aforementioned bone marrow/blood transfusion problems.

Has this stopped people from making babies in the US, the Caribbean, Latin America, North Africa and nations of South Africa and Namibia?

Is it really that hard to get a blood transfusion? Give me some evidence that there is a huge problem with getting a blood transfusion in Latin America or anywhere on Earth for that matter due to race.

In a study of 100,000 mixed-race adolescent school children, those who identified themselves as such had higher health and behavior instances than those of one race. The effect was still observed even when SES and other factors were controlled for. A problem with an obvious genetic component.

There is no genetic component there, obvious or otherwise. There’s a sociological and cultural component that’s 100% of the problem and a genetic component that’s 0% of the problem.

Have any physicians ever noted how the racemixing that produced these kids caused any particular health problem? What particular health problem was caused by say mixing of Blacks and Whites? What particular health problem was caused by mixing of Asians and Whites?

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116 responses to “Some Unbelievable Propaganda Against “Racemixing”

  1. That’s all 100% sociological. We do not have a lot of mixed race people in this country, so the kids have some psychological stuff. But if you look at places were mixed race people are everywhere or even the norm, you see no such behavioral problems, and I’ve never heard of any health problems.

    Seven percent of the country is mixed-race (more if we’re factoring in African Americans as well, 20 percent with American blacks factored in, then further when factoring in ‘Hispanics’). Are we using GDP and GNP as a baseline for quality of life? I think that’s the fairest measure, unless you object.

    Whites and Asians are mixed to Hell in Central Asia all the way to Mongolia and Siberia. Any problems? Nope. Whites and Australoids are mixed to Hell in India. Any problems? Of course not. Asians and Australoids are mixed in Japan (20% Australoid). Any problems? Of course not. Asians and Australoids are also mixed in Philippines, Indonesia, coastal Papua New Guinea, Melanesia, Polynesia and Micronesia? Any problems? Of course not. Whites, Australoids and Asians are mixing heavily now in Singapore and have been for some time in Malaysia in general. Any problems? Of course not. The entire Southeast Asian stock was created by recent mass-mixing of Australoids and Asians? Any issues? Of course not.

    Gdp and GNP of these countries (sans Singapore, which is 76 percent Chinese and attracts smart people)? How is the QoL and crime rate?

    Whites and Indians are mixed to Hell all over Latin America. Any problems or issues? Well, of course not. Whites and Blacks are mixed all over the Caribbean, the Middle East and North Africa? Any problems? Well, of course not. White, Indians and Blacks are mixed in Panama, Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, and Brazil. And even in Argentina. Any problems? Well, of course not.

    Unless crime and constant strife isn’t an issue…. (I do concede that a lot of it is caused by the CIA helping Mexican drug cartels, Latin America has some of the highest murder rates in the world).

    Is it really that hard to get a blood transfusion? Give me some evidence that there is a huge problem with getting a blood transfusion in Latin America or anywhere on Earth for that matter due to race.

    Genetically similar blood is best for big blood transfusions:

    Though compatibility is not based on race, genetically similar blood is best for patients who need repeated or large volumes of blood transfusions, or those who have produced red blood cell antibodies for various diseases and conditions like sickle cell, heart disease and kidney disease.

    Blood that closely matches a patient’s ethnicity is less likely to be rejected by the patient and provides fewer risks for complications. For example, some African American donors have different combinations of antigens in their blood like U-negative or Duff y-negative. Because these antigens are rarely found in other ethnic groups, these patients often depend on African American blood donations.

    Type O blood is the most common and most frequently used blood type. Type O negative blood is the universal donor, since almost anyone can accept it for a transfusion regardless of their blood type. These types are the first to run out during blood shortages.

    http://www.centralbloodbank.org/donate-blood/ethnicity-and-blood-donation

    You’re asking about evidence for lines out the door for transfusions, I’m talking about average differences. (As well as bone marrow differences and decreased IQ scores which then affect GDP and GNP.)

    There is no genetic component there, obvious or otherwise. There’s a sociological and cultural component that’s 100% of the problem and a genetic component that’s 0% of the problem.

    Health disparities still there even when controlling for SES is a cultural component? ….I see.

    Have any physicians ever noted how the racemixing that produced these kids caused any particular health problem? What particular health problem was caused by say mixing of Blacks and Whites? What particular health problem was caused by mixing of Asians and Whites?

    Asians and whites, mental health problems (already cited) and blacks and whites, lower IQ, higher risk for hypertension and heart problems.

    • Jason Y

      Asians and whites, mental health problems (already cited) and blacks and whites, lower IQ, higher risk for hypertension and heart problems.

      But pure blacks already have a low IQ in Africa, in fact much lower than with mixed, and Africa is as violent, or more so, than mixed race Brazil.

      • “But pure blacks already have a low IQ in Africa, in fact much lower than with mixed, and Africa is as violent, or more so, than mixed race Brazil.”

        But you are not seeing the point. It’s not simply comparing magnitudes but when certain defects are not selected against to the point where the mixing lacks the phenotypical “vigor” when you compare it to an overall threshold of IQ and criminality.

        Then add the other details and you would see why deselection would be required.

        • Jason Y

          If it’s already shown pure blacks are already shit, then why should we be concerned if they mix? (Note saying this sarcastically not to hurt real black people’s feelings.)

        • Not every hybrid is going to be the same phenotypically as an intermediate, the population will be more variable but with defedcts as similar severity since they wouldn’t be deselected for.
          From a “black” perspective IQs up, but from a white perspective they go down. And when you compare it by overall thresholds to maintain a society, it the combination lacks “vigor” in that regard.

      • AngryRussian

        There is a disparity between White and Black/mixed Brazilians. So Black/mixed Brazilians might not do better than Africans. For example, Nigeria’s homicide rate is more than two times less than that of Brazil, even the latter has its big White population.
        https://ahackinlondon.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/the-deadly-reality-for-young-black-people-in-brazil/

      • But pure blacks already have a low IQ in Africa, in fact much lower than with mixed, and Africa is as violent, or more so, than mixed race Brazil.

        The mixing is a negative for the white parent and positive for the black parent (in terms of IQ, on average of course).

  2. Well I gave you evidence of blood transfusion difficulties in the last article.

    As for your examples of mixed race populations in the world, that’s really a matter of reporting rather than actual incidence or because, as with humans an neanderthals, deselection too place in their evolution.

    In comparison mixed races of America are both
    A. more recent thus having less selection
    B. more reported on these matters.

  3. Jason Y

    Note, they not only want to say they’re more prone to disease, but they also want to say they’re more ugly on average than pure people. Talk about political bias.

    • Jason Y

      As our WN friend from Brazil who was once on here would say to my remark BRILLIANT !!! 😆 (in a meme)

      • Barack Thatcher

        The irony is that Santoculto is somewhat mixed himself (Black of course, as well as Sephardi Jewish)- he’s said as much.

        Santoculto once accused an anti-racist commenter on pumpkinperson’s blog of being you.

        He said “Jayson has come to peepee’s blog” or something like that.
        LOL

        • Jason Y

          Another self-hating NAM. Typical (note I’m not making fun of Phil, lol) I’ve noticed some of the biggest racists are indeed the people they hate.

    • “Note, they not only want to say they’re more prone to disease, but they also want to say they’re more ugly on average than pure people. Talk about political bias.”

      Except I didn’t say “more prone to disease”.

      When I refer to the medical health, they run the risk of

      A. not being able to find a match in blood transfering.
      B. Not having the right combinations of genes to defend against a medical condition.

    • pure people

      What serious person talks about racial “purity”? Strawman much?

      • Jason Y

        What else am I supposed to refer to them as? Racists are putting up the categories mixed and pure. Right?

        • Yes but the term pure is baseless. Everyone is mixed. That’s not to say that racial categories are meaningless, but what these people say are damn wrong.

        • Jason Y

          I see where you’re coming from, but it’s difficult to talk about such stuff without categories. Let’s say some people “look” mixed and others “look” pure.

  4. James Schipper

    Dear Robert

    I agree with you that there is no such thing as hybrid fragility, but there is no hybrid vigor either. If healthy, sane men produce children with healthy, sane women not related to them, then they are likely to have healthy, sane offspring, whether those women are of their own race or not.

    Regards. James

  5. Barack Thatcher

    In the long term, it really DOES NOT make a difference, the offspring are about between their parents’ races.

    I can buy however, that it’s “trial and error” in the beginning, so to speak. The race hasn’t selected against negative features as much.

    • Jason Y

      Why do you think most negative errors are coming from genetics? As I was saying we live in a cancer-causing shit-hole worldwide, with only so many anti-oxidants keeping us all from dying at any moment. All the food is contaminated with free radicals for the most part.

      • Jason Y

        I mean to say the food contains stuff which causes free radical generation and also I have left out massive sociological factors like political oppression etc.. In other words, even if genetic factors exist, they are greatly aided by the fact right wing governments won’t help the poor

      • Jason Y

        Yeah, negative errors are coming from genes alright, but not the kind that is inherited. They’re coming from genes who are being fucked now, as we speak, not inheriting crap from a father or mother. It’s all coming from the food.

        One way to show how sensitive genes are is to look at cosmic radiation. Did you know we cannot really send explorers out there because we don’t have suits and other protection for them?

      • “Why do you think most negative errors are coming from genetics? As I was saying we live in a cancer-causing shit-hole worldwide, with only so many anti-oxidants keeping us all from dying at any moment. All the food is contaminated with free radicals for the most part.”

        Because I’m referring to Blood types and gene related illness that have correlation to racial adaptations to their environments and info on how that relates to race-mixed people in particular.

        You are talking about exaggerated non specific factors of contamination, not even remotely relevant.

        “I mean to say the food contains stuff which causes free radical generation and also I have left out massive sociological factors like political oppression etc.. In other words, even if genetic factors exist, they are greatly aided by the fact right wing governments won’t help the poor.

        Wow, biased much? You are talking about politics when I’m talking about science.

        Also you are talking gibberish about oppression and poverty when that has no bearing on what I’m talking about, as you are talking about environmental contaminants rather than the genetics relations I’m talking about such as with blood types.

        “Yeah, negative errors are coming from genes alright, but not the kind that is inherited. They’re coming from genes who are being fucked now, as we speak, not inheriting crap from a father or mother. It’s all coming from the food.”

        That has no bearing on Blood types and geographical medical adaptations through genes combinations in different races as RR gave as examples.

        “One way to show how sensitive genes are is to look at cosmic radiation. Did you know we cannot really send explorers out there because we don’t have suits and other protection for them?”

        Except you haven’t tied this back to the original point, now you are just in denial.

    • “In the long term, it really DOES NOT make a difference, the offspring are about between their parents’ races.

      I can buy however, that it’s “trial and error” in the beginning, so to speak. The race hasn’t selected against negative features as much.”

      At least in the more severe defects, yes. The problem is that with the standard thinking of race mixing en masse, that part is left out.

      Jason tries to make me out as a racist, but I’ve mentioned that part every time I refer to the topic.

  6. Chinedu

    Race Realist hasn’t written anything, whether on his blog or here, that had any credibility whatsoever. Even I had minor identity issues as a child because while my dad is Igbo, my mother is Efik. Had I been born in an early time when the tribes were much more insular and stratified, I would’ve had major psychological problems. Mind you, I was a black kid in a sea of black people and yet the fact of my “mixed-heritage” posed problems I had to overcome.

    If you browse Race Realist’s blog you’ll find a person desperate to frame sociological issues as genetic imperatives. Often times it’s comical. He once claimed that blacks lacked the genetic wherewithal to excel at “high reaction time” positions in baseball. I schooled him on why fewer blacks play baseball. Moreover, I proved that,on the contrary, black players have historically been overrepresented at those positions. In fact I took him through an entire historical survey of baseball in America. Long story short, while he didn’t admit defeat (these guys never do), any impartial observer that reads that thread will conclude that I kicked his ass thoroughly. I did the same on every other one of his articles where he and I debated.

    • “If you browse Race Realist’s blog you’ll find a person desperate to frame sociological issues as genetic imperatives. Often times it’s comical. He once claimed that blacks lacked the genetic wherewithal to excel at “high reaction time” positions in baseball. I schooled him on why fewer blacks play baseball. Moreover, I proved that,on the contrary, black players have historically been overrepresented at those positions.”

      In fact I took him through an entire historical survey of baseball in America. Long story short, while he didn’t admit defeat (these guys never do), any impartial observer that reads that thread will conclude that I kicked his ass thoroughly. I did the same on every other one of his articles where he and I debated.”

      https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/01/20/hbd-and-sports-baseball/#comment-523

      Show me where in this thread on baseball where you refuted him.

      https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/01/20/hbd-and-sports-baseball/#comment-445

      Here race realist gave actual data on the position requiring good reaction time, not living up to your assertions.

    • If you browse Race Realist’s blog you’ll find a person desperate to frame sociological issues as genetic imperatives

      Source?

      He once claimed that blacks lacked the genetic wherewithal to excel at “high reaction time” positions in baseball. I schooled him on why fewer blacks play baseball.

      Having a fast reaction time and reflex is imperative to being a good baseball player. Blacks have lower reaction times. Therefore, blacks are underrepresented in baseball because of their lower reaction times.

      Sound argument, true premises.

      In fact I took him through an entire historical survey of baseball in America. Long story short, while he didn’t admit defeat (these guys never do), any impartial observer that reads that thread will conclude that I kicked his ass thoroughly. I did the same on every other one of his articles where he and I debated.

      I will admit that I am wrong when shown irrefutable evidence.

      Blacks are underrepresented in baseball? Oh no, better start saying that systemic racism or whatnot is the culprit, not any inherent genetic differences. Be real. The differences between races in track and field show that there are genetic differences (Jamaicans have a higher rate of the ACTN3 gene, which is associated with elite athletic performance and Type II (fast twitch) muscle fibers. Conversely, Eurasians have Type I (slow twitch) muscle fibers which is why they excel at Strongman, powerlifting and marathons (same with Kenyans). In fact, Kenya is only African country to place in the top 10 (yet never have won a medal), lending credence to my hypothesis.

      Look up the Brian Shaw. Far and away the world’s strongest man. Freak of nature. It’s due to how he is built, his muscle fiber typing and training. And before you say oh he’s using, so is everyone else so that’s a moot statement.

      I follow these sports, I’m in the gym every day of the week (working, not lifting), and I consistently see that whites are stronger than blacks while blacks have less fat-free mass than whites.

      To say that the causes of these differences are social in nature with no genetic component is a joke!!

      • Chinedu

        Race Realist,

        Your stupidity continues to astound me.

        Black Americans are underrepresented in baseball but black Caribbeans are OVERREPRESENTED. The only difference between them is nationality.

        In the past blacks most baseball teams had a policy of keeping black players below a certain token threshold. White fans didn’t want teams that were anywhere close to 50% black. Yes, that was indeed racism. A black player had to be exceptionally better than a white player in order to receive consideration.

        That was the past. Today the dwindling numbers of black Americans in baseball is due to the fact that black kids are no longer interested in baseball. Period!!!

        So you have this fact, which is rooted in reality and supported by reams of empirical evidence. But what do you do? You ignore all these facts and all this evidence and instead sift through the weeds looking for nonsensical, unproven and hilarious pseudoscientific claptrap to try to “prove” that blacks lack the genetic requirements for baseball. Baseball? Which blacks have dominated for 100 years? Even the Negro League teams and players were said to be superior to their white counterparts.

        You HBD proponents are are truly special kind of retard. Things that a 5 year old child would figure out absolutely elude you. That’s why I concluded long ago that HBDers and race realists are truly dumb as rocks.

        • Whites tend to excel at weight-lifting, wrestling, throwing heavy objects. These sports are rather boring because who wants to watch an Albanian dead-lift a barbell or a Greek roll around on mat with another Greek.

          Brute upper-torso strength is one thing whites will always have more of. Blacks will be faster and possibly have more endurance.

          Asians will continue to win ping-pong tournaments, Diving championships and martial arts competitions because of their grace and reflexes.

          Not much can change this.

        • To Trash,

          Bone and skin endurance, yes, but not regarding muscle as that would be a trait of slow twitch muscles of Eurasians.

      • “Race Realist,

        Your stupidity continues to astound me.

        Black Americans are underrepresented in baseball but black Caribbeans are OVERREPRESENTED. The only difference between them is nationality.”

        Even if that’s true, in what particular positions? BTW those “carribeans” would be Latino Blacks as he has mentioned in his article. So genetically they would have differences

        “In the past blacks most baseball teams had a policy of keeping black players below a certain token threshold. White fans didn’t want teams that were anywhere close to 50% black. Yes, that was indeed racism. A black player had to be exceptionally better than a white player in order to receive consideration.

        That was the past. Today the dwindling numbers of black Americans in baseball is due to the fact that black kids are no longer interested in baseball. Period!!!”

        So you are saying that due to policies of the past, policies that were override mind you regarding baseball segregation, is irrelevant why nowadays that blacks don;t participate in baseball?

        There’s a bit of a problem, being that Blacks had their own league where they could participate in baseball, just not with white players.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_sports#Major_League_Baseball

        After integration participation actually increased, so no dice.

        “So you have this fact, which is rooted in reality and supported by reams of empirical evidence. But what do you do? You ignore all these facts and all this evidence and instead sift through the weeds looking for nonsensical, unproven and hilarious pseudoscientific claptrap to try to “prove” that blacks lack the genetic requirements for baseball.”

        Except you haven’t refuted his data on reaction times with science and instead appealed to data on reaction dependent positions, where he also refuted you.

        “Baseball? Which blacks have dominated for 100 years? Even the Negro League teams and players were said to be superior to their white counterparts.”

        Proof and in what positions? So if they were superior to their white counterparts, despite the disadvantages of segregation and given opportunity for integration, exactly what caused numbers to dwindle?

        Data from that era was too vague actually compare.

        http://bleacherreport.com/articles/127212-how-good-were-the-negor-leagues#

        From the article-“You may have heard claims that the Negro Leagues were actually stronger than the majors because they consistently beat them in exhibitions. Well, yes and no. Competing Major League teams rarely had all their players from big league clubs—many of the players that played in these exhibitions were minor league players.”

        It then included a chart that showed that when you include more major league whites, The White Teams actually out scored them.

        “You HBD proponents are are truly special kind of retard. Things that a 5 year old child would figure out absolutely elude you. That’s why I concluded long ago that HBDers and race realists are truly dumb as rocks.”

        My break-and-take-down of your argument proves otherwise.

        • Chinedu

          I’m not debating you Phil. Forget it.

        • “You HBD proponents are are truly special kind of retard. Things that a 5 year old child would figure out absolutely elude you. That’s why I concluded long ago that HBDers and race realists are truly dumb as rocks.”

          I thought logic like mine was stupid like RR’s, so if you went through the effort to attempt to refute his, why not mine?

        • Chinedu

          Phil says:

          I thought logic like mine was stupid like RR’s, so if you went through the effort to attempt to refute his, why not mine?

          Because while Race Realist is an idiot and wrong 100% of the time, at least he posts with conviction. That is, he really believes the nonsense he is writing. You, on the other hand, are a troll. Your mission is to promote pro-white supremacist propaganda. You don’t debate honestly. You never acknowledge being wrong or being debunked. Instead you double down on the stupidity directly proportional to the degree to which you are being proved wrong. It’s infuriating and no sensible person is going to engage you because you are a 24/7 white supremacist keyboard warrior with apparently vast amounts of time and energy on your hands. It’s almost like you’re being paid to write your junk.

        • “Because while Race Realist is an idiot and wrong 100% of the time, at least he posts with conviction. That is, he really believes the nonsense he is writing. You, on the other hand, are a troll. Your mission is to promote pro-white supremacist propaganda.”

          By actually using data to prove you wrong, like claiming RR is wrong 100% of the time?

          “You don’t debate honestly. You never acknowledge being wrong or being debunked. Instead you double down on the stupidity directly proportional to the degree to which you are being proved wrong.”

          Post an example from my post above where I’ve done any of that. Again, this is projection from you.

          “It’s infuriating and no sensible person is going to engage you because you are a 24/7 white supremacist keyboard warrior with apparently vast amounts of time and energy on your hands. It’s almost like you’re being paid to write your junk.”

          Say that all you want, you’re they guy who claims that that HBD’rs are idiots that xan be simply refuted, claim debating them is a waste of time, yet comes back to argue (like how you are arguing with me now) and uses more Ad hominems then actual actual attempts to refute logic.

          Show me where I used any if those tactics on you.

        • Oh, and saying that I never admit to being wrong is actually a lie.

          “The closest thing to an ideological clash was regarding White South Africans facing hardships and discrimination, something that Robert still believes in.

          The thing is though he doesn’t label it genocide nor does he thinks Mugabe is responsible.

          That more or less consistent with my principles on the matter I explained to you here.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/10/31/mugabe-had-nothing-to-do-with-the-raids-on-white-farms-in-zimbabwe/#comment-279271

    • AngryRussian

      Even I had minor identity issues as a child because while my dad is Igbo, my mother is Efik.
      Mind you, I was a black kid in a sea of black people and yet the fact of my “mixed-heritage” posed problems I had to overcome.

      There are some rational points in that. Igbo and Efik (as, say, Germans and Poles) have lived independently and somewhat isolated from each other for a long enough time (if they are different tribes or nations then they must have), so each has created its own specific gene pool. So technically they may be mixed. But as such groups are much less separated from each other geographically and temporally, their mixing is trivial than between, say, Poles and Efik. But for the former case it is more about different cultures and a cultural conflict than about race or genes.

  7. Jason Y

    Note, Iv’e never argued people should be forced to mix. For instance, it might be that some black guy is into black women etc.. simply due to the fact that is what makes him hot. Nonetheless, WNs are trying to make science and beauty say that race-mixing is a sin against nature, much like Christians view homosexuality or transsexualism.

    Anyhow, people should be free to marry or date who they want without being hassled about it, generally speaking.

    • This I do agree with. If people want to do this on their own that fine, my point is that on and en masse level issues could arise particularly in medical context.

      • Jason Y

        Where I live and is the case most anywhere, people are dating their own race. Of course, it might seem like people are not, especially when you see mixed raced kids, usually black dad and a white woman, but it’s not representative of the real population, as though 50 percent or more of people into interracial marriage.

    • JASON Y You could feed every pure white family with NO CHEROKEE BLOOD in the South with 2 TV dinners and most likely these would be Italians in New Orleans or British expats in Miami Florida.

      Poor white males had no choice but to have Cherokee females as sex partners or hump their hand their whole life.

      White European women did not generally flow into the interior of the U.S. as frequently because they could find work and sex partner on the East Coast who would support them better than a frontiersman.

  8. I wouldn’t be shocked if mixed race individuals were more prone to mental health issues, but that would have to be from societal causes and not biological ones.

    • Jason Y

      No shit, It’s cause racist assholes are always picking on them !!

    • You could feed every rural white with no single Native American ancestor in Flyover Land with 2 TV dinners and a bottle of Pepsi.

      These would be the odd German couple in St. Louis who immigrated back when Germans still thought the Midwest was a worthwhile place to be or a Polish farmer somewhere in Kansas or a British expatriate millionaire in Florida.

      White women who immigrated from Europe to America could remain in the East Coast cities and marry up instead of accompanying some rude frontiersman into the interior of the U.S.

      If ANY white in Oklahoma did not have Native blood I’d be surprised.

      There is a reason why Manhattan, Boston and San Francisco have the elite whites and the Flyover has no political power to match it.

  9. Yes, aren’t those mixed race countries just wonderful. The massive region of mixed race people in Central Asia is just so inviting. The best of the West and the East combined in one dynamic region.

    Or not.
    “Hybrid vigour” is in my experience used by Cultural Leftists to push mass immigration. They argue we would be better off with mass immigration, but I think this just a gambit to support mass immigration to get right of whitey.

    Hybrid vigour CAN improve a species, but not always. It depends on the circumstances. The anti-racist assertion that hybrid vigour always leads to better results in incorrect.

    Now lets look at the world, in a practical sense. Would we be better off by mixing ourselves? Have a look at the White nations becoming mixed, and tell me its an improvement. I don’t see it. It’s not occuring,

    “Any problems”?

    Yes. These places don’t maintain the quality of life White places do. Thats a problem.

    People from these mixed race places are moving to where the White people are.

    The fact of the matter is anit-racism was always a flawed ideology. Perhaps some people have nostalgia about the days when being “against racism” made sense, but I think it was poison from the beginning. I’m NOT including ending slavery, or not killing people of other races out of sheer decency, but when people worried or starting worrying about racial make up, inclusion, assimilation etc.

    Whites don’t benefit from race mixing. Perhaps other races may, but we don’t.

    • what about white men who have asian fever or jungle fever?

      • Jason Y

        Possibly they find it exotic. but otherwise, have no interest in raising a family with who they screw, so you have to at least complement married interracial couples as it least having moral standards.

        Just like sex tourists in southeast Asia who fuck and go, leaving all sorts of mixed kids behind, and note I’m mainly referring to northeast Asians going to Southeast Asia.

        • Jason Y

          Gosh, that sounds like a gas station or 7-11, ha ha. Yeah, let’s go to Quick-Mart Fuck and Go. 😆 Don’t worry about mixed kids you might leave behind. What pussies worry about that ??

        • Yeah that’s basically how the small scale indian brothels are. Pay your money, pick the girl, go to a room and fuck and then go.

          That’s one of the few positives about India- the cheap availability of exotic brown women.

        • Yeah that’s basically how the small scale indian brothels are. Pay your money, pick the girl, go to a room and fuck and then go.

          That’s one of the few positives about India- the cheap availability of exotic brown women.

          That’s pretty degenerate.

        • pretty degenerate? like i give a fuck.

        • Jason Y

          Note Asian extremists in Asian lands bitch about GIs raping and using whores, but it’s mostly their own people who do sexual exploitation. It’s Asians who keep prostitution alive and also highly degenerate stuff like kidnapping, forced sex, and underage prostitutes, some young as 10. The Asians are the main customers

          But it’s all political and also typical racist hypocrisy. They don’t want the GIs there and/or they want to project hate of themselves and their shortcomings unto foreigners (the scapegoat thing). Typically governments in these lands use the US as a scapegoat for their own failure.

        • Jason Y

          Yeah that’s basically how the small scale indian brothels are. Pay your money, pick the girl, go to a room and fuck and then go.

          That’s one of the few positives about India- the cheap availability of exotic brown women.

          Ironically, most women in these stereotypical lands are not easy, but that’s the western fantasy. They would be incredibly insulted by the thought of men looking at them at all. It would be akin to staring at US college girls, thinking they’re the same ones at an exotic entertainment bar.

        • Jason Y

          Note, at the least in Asia, it’s OTHER Asians, Japanese and Korean tourists, keeping the prostitution going, and also the most degenerate prostitution. But again, due to the USA’s power, and also jealousy of the US, white men are often poster boys for imperialism over there, much like that one GI making headlines in the Phillippines for rape.

      • MAGNETO

        White guys live in India for money or cheap partying lifestyles on Goa beach. Not for the Indian sex.

        White guys live in Asia because they can. Who wants to live in Columbus, Ohio worrying about violent minorities, paying for their illegitimate children, the cold weather, the left-right conflict when you live cheaply in a warm climate.

        Sex tourism would be a very minor reason and not the reason that most white males choose to live in a foreign country…like I do.

      • MAGNETO Whites in India are there for money or they are junkies or hippies. Pure and simple.

        None of them go to the “woman markets” because Muslims hate Westerners and these places are run by the Mumbai mafia.

        Whites live in Asian countries for the lifestyle because it is better than being lower-class in Columbus, Ohio.

    • AngryRussian

      It’s not that bad in Kazakhstan. Actually their level is close to the Russian one (that is decent). But it has nothing to do with their race. Their relatively decent well-being is because of:
      1. Natural resources like oil, gas, coal, metal ore.
      2. Soviet industrialization which gave a good start for the country after 1991.
      3. Many highly educated Russian specialists still live there, though two times fewer than in the Soviet period.

      But that cannot be said about Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan. Uzbekistan is the main melting pot there, they have a dozen of racial types, but even if they have gas and cotton to sell, they are very poor and backward. But much more homogeneous Tajikistan (predominantly pure Iranians) and Kyrgyzstan (predominantly pure Mongoloid Turks) even worse, they are practically at the very bottom. The development and living standards in those three republics are at the level of Central Africa. Not much can be said about Turkmenistan, it is a closed country, but they have gas and a small population and must be better off.

      So every country is different there, it is wrong to treat them as one uniform entity.

      • Jason Y

        Yeah but the Russians are all melting with Asian types which are known to have a high iQ. For instance, China has a generally high IQ. Korea has a high iQ, and so does Mongolia, even though it’s still poor.

        • AngryRussian

          No, Russians are not melting, especially with East Asians. You’re just repeating Russophobic stereotypes from the 19th century. Mongols have had zero genetic impact on Russians. But it is not happening with recent Central Asian gastarbeiters either, because they are backward and Russians do not want to have anything common with them at all. Even if there is a non-Slavic admixture in Russians it’s mostly ancient Finnic, Baltic, and Iranian tribes, which racially was not much different from Slavs. Also, there may be some Turkic and Tataric admixture, but Volga and Pontic Turks are largely White anyway.

    • Jason Y

      That’s because you’re assuming the poverty is coming from genetics. Given that fact what use is socialism or even left wing ideology at all? Just like that dumb remark I heard on Stormfront about “Making Everyone the Elite” ha ha, lol.

    • Jason Y

      Also, note that race is defined as a nation. So Americans should be a failed state due to the mixing of Germans, English, Slavs, Italians, etc…

      • “Also, note that race is defined as a nation. So Americans should be a failed state due to the mixing of Germans, English, Slavs, Italians, etc…”

        Good job using the wrong use of political/cultural race compared to actual physical macro races.

        • Jason Y

          Good job using the wrong use of political/cultural race compared to actual physical macro races.

          No that’s where you get it wrong. Macro-race is what’s important. In fact, worldwide, most people are uptight about macro-race much more than race, even though in Asia mass prejudice exists against black skin in general.

          The Jews are a macro-race. The persecuted Irish of history’s past are a macro-race.

          There is no white brotherhood (or Asian or black one). It’s another WN myth.

        • “No that’s where you get it wrong. Macro-race is what’s important. In fact, worldwide, most people are uptight about macro-race much more than race, even though in Asia mass prejudice exists against black skin in general.

          The Jews are a macro-race. The persecuted Irish of history’s past are a macro-race.

          There is no white brotherhood (or Asian or black one). It’s another WN myth.”

          You idiot. In biological sense, “Macro race” equals Caucasian, Mongoloid, Or Negroid.

          What you are talking about are SUBRACES.

        • Second of all what you described wouldn’t have made America failed due to the fact that the enforced assimilation and maintain the Anglo Saxon Cultural Hierachy, so now those immigration wouldn’t have made America a “failed state” due to what you are insinuating as cultural degregation.

      • AngryRussian

        In what place a nation is equal to a race? In America with its stupid “races”? No, in a normal science the race is all about physiology and genes, and you have no power to change it, you are born with it, unlike culture, language and citizenship which can be easily changed. So there were never German or Italian races, people just assimilated into Anglo-American culture. They might then marry each other, but how did it create a mixed race? Their offspring is as mixed as people born in mixed German-Italian families back in Europe. But with a long history of slavery and segregation in America, there have never been much of mixing between Euro-Americans and African and Native Americans. America is rather a segregated country with three or more races living and breeding separately.

        • He’s talking about when a “race” was equal to a tribe or nation like “Franks”, “Belgae”, “Sabines”, “Illyrians”, “Germani”, “Britons”, and so on.

          In other words, when race was used in place of ethnicity or nationality.

        • Jason Y

          No different European peoples are indeed races. In fact, in the early settlement of America, Ben Franklin even suggested banning immigration from Germany, something which seems laughable to modern WNs.

        • “No different European peoples are indeed races. In fact, in the early settlement of America, Ben Franklin even suggested banning immigration from Germany, something which seems laughable to modern WNs.”

          Wrong use again Jason.

      • JASON Y It would be a failed state if America did not have the resources to have supported enormous industries which were actually founded by European immigrants in the 19th – 20th centuries.

        Jews might be disliked but Hollywood films have made an enormous amount of money and glorified the American dream.

        Asian immigrants have also brought a great deal of skills and work ethic.

        Notice how FLYOVER LAND does not have the same economic importance as California or New York? Asian-Americans, Jews and European immigrants don’t go there.

        Hybridized descendants of early American indentured servants with a Cherokee Indian or two thrown in did not make the Unites States into a world power in the 20th century.

        Recent Italian, Irish, Jewish and German immigrants into the population centers of New York, Boston and California did.

  10. AngryRussian

    The majority of the countries you have listed are at a low level of development and living standards. And the less they are mixed the more successful. E.g. Argentina, which is predominantly White is much more successful then highly mixed Central America and the Caribbean. This reality is observed even at the interior level: less mixed (and more White) Southern Brazil is much more successful and rich than more mixed Central and more Black Northern Brazil. So common sense tells us that the racial mixing do nothing good. I cannot say if there are any strong scientific evidences for that common sense, so I have no strong opinion on that matter. I do not like to see mixed-race people as defective. But if asked I’d prefer to live in Argentina or Uruguay than in Colombia or Bolivia.

    As for other countries or regions like SE Asia and Central Asia their racial mixing is so ancient that it is practically not a mixing any more, they developed long ago their own sub-race which smoothed any sharp racial differences. As I said many times the dichotomies White-Black or White-Asian or Asian-Black are absolutely false and anti-scientific. In Central Asia, for example, there are no such things as simply Whites and simply Asians which are mixing, but there are their own specific sub-races and sub-groups (I won’t bother you with terms) which cannot be assigned directly and easily to the White or Asian category. Americans think in terms of their own American racial reality (where people are only Whites, Blacks, Asians, Natives and “others”) and try to apply it to the rest of the world which is ridiculous.

    • Jason Y

      Mixed race has nothing to do with why northern Brazil and other places are poor. OK, Ireland was poor for much of it’s history and also pure. Africa is a pure place for the most part, full of low IQ and violence. The whole anti-mixed raced thing isn’t looking at all the facts, mainly cause it’s pushing a political agenda.

      • AngryRussian

        I did not say the purer the richer. I just say that in Latin America, where we can observe racial mixing in full, the general tendency is thus: more Whites and less mixing – richer. This is even more striking in Central America. Costa Rica is the most White there and it is the richest in sharp contrast with the surrounding failed banana republics. I’m not trying to prove anything, but for a detached observer what could common sense say about this strange correlation?

      • In Mexico the Whiter parts are indeed richer … but the whiter Mexico for some reason never catch up to the White United States though, and that kind of puzzle me. Have you been to Jalisco? is indeed whiter than Coahuila or San Luis Potosi or Nuevo Leon, but I still felt I was in Mexico seeing their development, I didn’t feel like I was in the first world like when I have been in Texas which is part of the United States, and believe me when I was in Jalisco I saw a lot of Whites! Sinaloa is Whiter as well and my sensation was the same, however a friend who was in Guerrero, a very southern nativish state, claimed it was really poorer and they didn’t have a lot of meat in their cuisine and she wasn’t sure what she even was eating lol because the food was poor, unlike Sinaloa’s food.

        • AngryRussian

          I think it is stupid to reduce everything to races. There are also nature, climate, geography, culture, religion, history, language and all such things, which can affect the overall mentality of the people and hence their prosperity. Back in Europe Protestants are doing better than Catholics, the Germanic nations are better than the Romance and Slavic ones, North and West are better than South and East, and so on. It is multidimensional. However, race must have something to do with it, otherwise there’s never been any sharp contrast of Cost Rica with the surrounding banana republics, for example.

        • Jason Y

          I think it is stupid to reduce everything to races. There are also nature, climate, geography, culture, religion, history, language and all such things, which can affect the overall mentality of the people and hence their prosperity. Back in Europe Protestants are doing better than Catholics, the Germanic nations are better than the Romance and Slavic ones, North and West are better than South and East, and so on. It is multidimensional. However, race must have something to do with it, otherwise there’s never been any sharp contrast of Cost Rica with the surrounding banana republics, for example.

          Really, lol ???

      • Barack Thatcher

        Regardless, you guys just don’t get it.

        Theoretically the mixed race areas should be representative of the races mixed, and the degree to which they mixed, exactly in the middle.

        A mulatto area can be far shittier than a White area, but if it’s closer even miniscually to a White area than Black, then we do have the “hybrid vigor” effect.

        • Another problem though is, without selection, that isn’t so simple.

          Keep in Mind, intermediate traits for people like Mulattos are misleading as if they are all intermediate, when that is simple an average and in real life they are all over the place.

          Basically, you just combine the bell curves of blacks and whites on various traits thus you have a wider distribution but with a lower average.

          So what you describe is unlikely unless the parent populations were specialized )say like skilled immigrants) or selection follows through.

  11. good news, so we can keep fucking indian and asian women then.

    • Jason Y

      Fucking Indian women, but then bashing Indian men is incredibly insulting. If Indian men knew about your feelings, they’d have a good cause to harm you, lol

      I mean at least a lot of white Asiaphiles have some respect for the people in general, female AND male.

  12. Chinedu

    The claim (Jensen, 1975) that blacks are slower than whites in choice (but not simple) reaction time is examined. It is false. The claim (Jensen, 1985) that Muhammad Ali was shown to have a “very average” reaction time is examined. It is false. The claim (Vernon & Jensen, 1984) that an unpublished technical report showed blacks to be inferior to whites on a relatively content-free mental processing task is examined. It is false. Suggestions are made concerning relevant questions that might be addressed by students of race differences in intelligence.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0160289687900134

    • Except it doesn’t cite studies to prove it, it just claims them false.

      • Chinedu

        A question for the group. Given the nature and tenor of Phil’s output on this blog, who here takes him seriously?

        Keep in mind, this is someone who feels obliged to counter everything I post. If I say the sky is blue he’ll say it’s orange. If I say the sky is orange he’ll say is blue. It doesn’t matter what the actual facts are. Phil doesn’t care. For the past several months there hasn’t been a single thing I posted that Phil has not responded to — usually within 10 minutes. I’m sure Robert can verify this if he wants to take the time to analyse it. Is this how a serious person behaves?

        Phil is obviously the very definition of a troll.

        • “A question for the group. Given the nature and tenor of Phil’s output on this blog, who here takes him seriously?

          Keep in mind, this is someone who feels obliged to counter everything I post.”

          Because, as I have shown, your claims were false.

          “If I say the sky is blue he’ll say it’s orange. If I say the sky is orange he’ll say is blue. It doesn’t matter what the actual facts are. Phil doesn’t care. ”

          Actually I do care, hence why I gave sources regarding your claims towards RR. Your the one who spends more than half of his responses making judgements and insults on others than actually caring to present facts.

          “For the past several months there hasn’t been a single thing I posted that Phil has not responded to — usually within 10 minutes. I’m sure Robert can verify this if he wants to take the time to analyse it. Is this how a serious person behaves?”

          So essentially you basing my objectivity based on response time as opposed to my arguments? How about the fact that I’m 17 thus I would naturally have more free time compared to significantly older commentors? Not to add that particularly now is a Holiday Break?

          If we are to based any opinion on arguments and “group perception”, you’re no one to judge if you see my list of your clashes with others.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/11/22/some-unbelievable-propaganda-against-racemixing/#comment-281348

          “Phil is obviously the very definition of a troll.”

          Group response,

          What do you make of a person who claims to be a person of facts yet uses data and sources less often than his opponents,

          claims that their arguments are weak but rarely uses logic to refute them, tries to avoid responses by continuing to rant their opinions of their opponent (like his actual response above),

          and then calls race realist stupid and a waste of time but continues to return and make assertions on a race realist blog?

        • Jason Y

          If I say the sky is blue he’ll say it’s orange. If I say the sky is orange he’ll say is blue. It doesn’t matter what the actual facts are. Phil doesn’t care.

          The interpretation of politics, history, science, beauty, etc.. is highly based on someone’s political outlook. For instance, WNs will simply say mixed race is ugly because they don’t like mixed race, while liberals might praise the beauty of a mixed race while ignoring obvious beauty (not saying though one is more beautiful than the other) of a southern white.

        • Jason Y

          and then calls race realist stupid and a waste of time but continues to return and make assertions on a race realist blog?

          I would like to take race realism seriously, but the followers of it are incredibly biased, and the researchers they cite are the same. They like race realism because that’s what they want to believe

          It’s no different than The Goode Family I mentioned, wanting to believe dogs will eat vegan food when in reality they hate it. (They had a comical episode where missing animal flyers were all around the neighborhood, the victims of the Goode Family dog.😆 )

        • To Jason,

          “I would like to take race realism seriously, but the followers of it are incredibly biased, and the researchers they cite are the same. They like race realism because that’s what they want to believe.”

          The reason why they cite the same people because HBD research is limited, even then that really on pertains to “major researchers” regarding psychometrics while other citation for things such a physiology or hormones are more varied.

          “It’s no different than The Goode Family I mentioned, wanting to believe dogs will eat vegan food when in reality they hate it. ”

          Well no, that would imply some sort of inconsistency that you would have to point out in terms of the logic of their assertions that would make HBD false, something you haven’t proven.

          “(They had a comical episode where missing animal flyers were all around the neighborhood, the victims of the Goode Family dog.😆 )”

          You know I pretty sure humor is a defense mechanism of yours as well as being these forced anecdotes a lame tactic to beef up your comments.

        • Jason Y

          No, I don’t think humour is lame attempt to beef up comments. I’m pointing out that extremists on both sides are stupid. Get it ??? They’re wackjobs, nutjobs. They’re not looking into real facts, but only believing what they want to believe.

        • To Jason,

          And that’s where I have issue. You say “they” don’t look into real “facts”.

          What I think you mean is that they take facts to concretely and morph it to fit their own intentions. As far as I know, issues such as HBD explanations for crime and IQ haven’t been successfully debunked by you.

        • Mike

          What do you make of a person who uses white supremacists blog as facts and stretches his arguments based on that? Believes whites can be no wrong? And jumps in to defend them every time using some biased sources to espouse antiblack racism and still shamelessly calls himself as black boy.

        • “What do you make of a person who uses white supremacists blog as facts and stretches his arguments based on that?”

          How many times do I have to repeat myself?

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/black-immigration-to-europe-and-other-musings/#comment-279823

          “Believes whites can be no wrong?” No, I refer to data on Chinedu’s incorrect assertions.

          When did I ever say “whites can do no wrong?”. Go back to the thread on South Africa and my point was that Chinedu made it out as Boers being the ONLY ones to displace Khoi-san people.

          “And jumps in to defend them every time using some biased sources to espouse antiblack racism and still shamelessly calls himself as black boy.”

          Defend them of what? My points in the past with Chinedu was that he used strawmen that doesn’t suffice to justify his assertions.

          I gave him multiple opportunities to prove me wrong yet he either insults me by calling me a troll or refuses to debate.

          Also, for being “anti black” I’ve mentioned multiple times that the reform’s shortsightedness resulted in less production, meaning it would stagnate the country’s progression hence hurting the whole population.

          BTW, you are no one to lecture about “racism”.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/11/08/who-voted-trump-100-rightwingers-and-racists-0-anyone-else/#comment-280219

        • Mike

          Multiple studies? What source would white supremacist use, ofcourse some pseudo whack bullshit written by previous era white ssupremacist just to prove their biased views. Also given the general bias prevailing it’s not unusual to see such bullshit like negroes in nerolqnd and other whack pseudo bullshit to journals and textbooks. You prove your dishonesty and overt racism by constantly linking to them. Chinedu is rightly pointing it out. Also that Chinese idiot deserved that response. He was supporting a candidate who has openly condemned every walking thing under the earth as if he is a saint . it makes no sense for a non-white to support white supremacy. Also he extrapolated that as if whole world is supporting him. What is irritatating is non whites and copycats all over the world espousing white supremacy views and foolishly supporting them. It deserves to be treated in a condescending way.

        • To Mike,

          “Multiple studies? What source would white supremacist use, ofcourse some pseudo whack bullshit written by previous era white ssupremacist just to prove their biased views.”

          If you actually saw those links, those websites would have links themselves to direct someone to multiple studies for Chinedu to debunk, not going through to trouble of finding them independently.

          ” Also given the general bias prevailing it’s not unusual to see such bullshit like negroes in nerolqnd and other whack pseudo bullshit to journals and textbooks.”

          And by using the format that I did, I gave chinedu the ability to disprove that but guess what? He did the same thing that your are doing, sensational speculation despite being able to directly refute me.

          “You prove your dishonesty and overt racism by constantly linking to them. Chinedu is rightly pointing it out.”

          Except when I did use them I clearly explained it was for format purpose in CONVENIENCE for Chinedu to debunk me. If I was biased, I would’ve tried to assert it as clear truth without being open for analysis yet I put myself under the position.

          “Also that Chinese idiot deserved that response. He was supporting a candidate who has openly condemned every walking thing under the earth as if he is a saint . it makes no sense for a non-white to support white supremacy.”

          If you felt so strongly about his position to insult him, I could understand calling him an idiot.

          However, despite being “against racism”, you unnecessarily used a slur to address him and tribalistically justified it as being treason of a “non-white” like a racist. So you are a hypocrite as I never called Chinedu a slur.

          “Also he extrapolated that as if whole world is supporting him.”

          No he didn’t.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/11/08/who-voted-trump-100-rightwingers-and-racists-0-anyone-else/#comment-280235

          “What is irritatating is non whites and copycats all over the world espousing white supremacy views and foolishly supporting them. It deserves to be treated in a condescending way.”

          Wow, you are an idiot. If you read his reason why, you would know that he supported Trump due to real concerns regarding his country of China, his own nation.

          You making up this “non-white” unity is proof of your racism on top of you justifying using a slur when not necessary.

        • To Mike,

          BTW, good job at Creaders of being racist when he never brought up race for his reasons for Trump.

          The fact that you saw race as a factor proves you racial bias, thinking that non-whites can’t be individuals and that politics are simple as to who to vote for regarding interest.

          I think you revealed who you are, so take of your mask.

        • Jason Y

          What do you make of a person who uses white supremacists blog as facts and stretches his arguments based on that? Believes whites can be no wrong? And jumps in to defend them every time using some biased sources to espouse antiblack racism and still shamelessly calls himself as black boy.

          I would say the assertion that each group has serious flaws to be more accurate. Possibly 10 or 20 percent of each race are assholes. The fault comes when we generalize the whole group based on the minority.

          However, note the minority can influence the whole group to be racist. For instance, a lot of decent minded whites went along with Jim Crow. A lot of decent minded blacks probably somewhat go for black extremism.

        • Jason Y

          Note, though, sociopathic assholes are drawn to power. So again we see them being in a place where they can fool a more moderate majority into their crazy dreams and fantasies.

          For instance, Hitler only had the strong support of a handful of Germans, but a more moderate German majority went along with him cause they probably fooled themselves into thinking he was less dangerous than he really was, and plus, given the Great Depression, no nation wanted immigrants except poor third world lands where only rich immigrants could survive (as they wouldn’t need a job)

    • Chinedu

      You’re obviously desperate to attract my attention, Phil. Sorry, I won’t debate a mindless, robotic troll.

      • If you actually believed that you wouldn’t have responded 10 times in the past after saying you wouldn’t.

        The only thing I want from you is a response that’s actually coherent, something you have repeatedly failed to do.

    • Chinedu

      I’ve never encountered a race realist of HBD theory that couldn’t easily be refuted by any layman. These people often have a rude awaking when they step out of their cloistered, circle-jerk environments and attempt to debate in the real world. Invariably they get their asses kicked time and again. But they’re so invested in their false beliefs that they will never admit to being wrong. Instead they start trolling or they start inundating the conversation with utter bullshit the way Phil does.

      Race Realists and HBDers, even the ones that write well, tend to be profoundly stupid. Who else would attribute instinctive human reflexes to brain power or lack of same? In baseball if a line drive is coming at you, you react. Even the untrained, out of shape fans in the stands react. You don’t wait for millions of neurons to fire in order to figure out how to respond. Virtually every animal, insect and flies have much faster reaction times than humans. So there is no correlation between quick reaction times and intelligence. That is, unless you think the common house fly is a genius.

      • “I’ve never encountered a race realist of HBD theory that couldn’t easily be refuted by any layman.”

        Care to demonstrate

        “These people often have a rude awaking when they step out of their cloistered, circle-jerk environments and attempt to debate in the real world. Invariably they get their asses kicked time and again.”

        Well that really wasn’t the case as shown in our past discussions, was it?

        ” But they’re so invested in their false beliefs that they will never admit to being wrong. Instead they start trolling or they start inundating the conversation with utter bullshit the way Phil does.”

        Take any quote of mine from the other threads and prove that they are bullshit, like mine with yours. For example, this is like you 5th time saying this and that about HBD’rs and me demanding you demonstrate it, but then you get sidetrack to calling me a racist and never appealing to logic.

        “Race Realists and HBDers, even the ones that write well, tend to be profoundly stupid. Who else would attribute instinctive human reflexes to brain power or lack of same? In baseball if a line drive is coming at you, you react. Even the untrained, out of shape fans in the stands react.”

        Now you are using a strawman of RR’s assertion, it’s not whether or not they react period but how fast they react.

        “You don’t wait for millions of neurons to fire in order to figure out how to respond.”

        Uum…yes, that’s how reaction with the brain works.

        http://virtuallabs.stanford.edu/tech/images/ReactionTime.SU-Tech.pdf

        “Virtually every animal, insect and flies have much faster reaction times than humans.”

        But they have simpler brain wiring that’s grounded in sensory and motor functions. lacking abstract thought like us.

        http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002270050464

        The correlation is based on a human context.

        “So there is no correlation between quick reaction times and intelligence. That is, unless you think the common house fly is a genius.”

        That’s when you put the correlation out of context, as it is proven to be a correlation specifically from brain processing for humans.

        http://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2007/10/29/speed-matters-but-not-how-you/

        http://www.radford.edu/jkell/Reaction%20Times.pdf

  13. Jason Y

    We should try to distinguish between liberal extremists and nutjobs like The Goode family and ordinary liberals

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goode_Family

    We should distinguish ordinary conservatives from WNs.

    • Jason Y

      Also as Robert might note, we should distinguish between cultural conservatives who are economically liberal and WNs. It’s possible to have generally culturally conservative leftist types who haven’t devolved into WN nutjobs, in fact, I’d say a lot of Americans are like that in reality.

  14. Jason Y

    No, unlike what some say on here, I don’t think Phil is a troll. Phil possibly thinks I’m a troll, but that’s OK. Chindeu isn’t a troll either.

    Why is it that anyone who disagrees with you is labelled a troll? That’s like Democrats calling Republicans Nazis or Republicans calling Obama a communist.

    • “No, unlike what some say on here, I don’t think Phil is a troll. Phil possibly thinks I’m a troll, but that’s OK. Chindeu isn’t a troll either.”

      Disagree with what you say in terms of scientific assertions despite knowing you have good intentions, though I don’t think you’re a troll either.

      BTW, thank you for your honesty.

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