There Is No Genocide Against Whites in South Africa

Chinedu: Robert,

What’s being done to Whites in that country? What discrimination? The most persistent complaints are from Blacks due to the fact that after all the struggles whites continue to monopolize power, land, the financial systems and resources.

Phil: http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

Phil, there is no active genocide against Whites in South Africa.

From the Genocide Watch website:

South Africa – Given the history of Apartheid in South Africa, there is deep-rooted polarization between whites and black in the nation. Part of the polarization in South Africa is the legacy of Apartheid and the continuing dominance in the economy of white owned businesses and farms. There is also polarization from the black population, who feel excluded from real power and jobs, even though the ANC now controls the government.

This general polarization created a fertile ground for political radicalization, which was the case with the rise of Malema, former President of the ANC Youth League who is now suspended. Genocide Watch continues to be alarmed at hate crimes committed against whites, particularly against Boer farmers, an important early warning sign that genocide could occur. Those who commit such crimes must be promptly brought to justice, and denounced by the political leaders of South Africa.

Here is the page of countries where GW is worried a genocide will occur or where one is actually occurring. There are three stages

  • First Phase: Genocide Emergency – actual genocide is occurring.
  • Second Phase: Genocide Warning – preparation for or potential massacres.
  • Third Phase: Genocide Watch – Polarization – warning that genocide may occur in the future.

South Africa was in the third phase Genocide Watch – Polarization – Early Warning Phase of Genocide in 2013, which means that hate crimes against Whites were occurring at such a high level that there may be as genocide at some point in the future.

Yes, Genocide Watch has a page on South Africa, but so what? GW has a page on almost every country in the whole world! OK? GW is not saying that there is a genocide going on or about to occur in every country.

Further, some of the so-called genocides are just wars. Supposedly there is a “genocide” going in Syria with Assad killing the rebels who have taken up arms against him along with quite a few of their civilian supporters. That’s not really an actual genocide though because there is no ethnic group called “Syrians who hate Assad.”

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26 responses to “There Is No Genocide Against Whites in South Africa

  1. Please note many educated and professional black Africans are leaving South Africa as well.

    • Mike

      Trash is right. Even educated Negro males are leaving Africa. Unlike what Black pretender Phil says, it’s not a genocide. It’s a law and order problem getting out of hand. The incompetent police officials and the rigged system is largely responsible for the current mess in SAF. It’s becoming quite useful for White supremacists to use that info in their desperate fantasy to reinstate White supremacist rule.

      It helps them to have shills like Phil. You seem to worry so much about the plight of Whites that you do not miss an opportunity to argue with Tulio or Chinedu and put them down with your stupid racist theories. If you are onto criticism of Black culture, I can understand, but what you do is not criticism. You attack the foundation of Black social fabric with your evil, malicious intentions. Where is the outcry from you Phil, when Sam and Epgah were launching brutal racial tirades against Blacks? Isn’t that what you love to hear as a White racist clown? The mask is off real good now, maybe it’s time to upload your real picture and finish the drama.

      Robert is right. What is happening in the Middle East is genocide.

    • Jason Y

      Possibly, at least among the poor Afrikaners, the situation is not genocide, but rather is humiliation. However, that’s not a good feeling. Nobody wants to be in that boat.

    • “Trash is right. Even educated Negro males are leaving Africa. Unlike what Black pretender Phil says, it’s not a genocide. It’s a law and order problem getting out of hand. The incompetent police officials and the rigged system is largely responsible for the current mess in SAF. It’s becoming quite useful for White supremacists to use that info in their desperate fantasy to reinstate White supremacist rule.”

      Agaon, my point on whites be specifically tarteged and Mugabe’s similar actions before.

      “It helps them to have shills like Phil. You seem to worry so much about the plight of Whites that you do not miss an opportunity to argue with Tulio or Chinedu and put them down with your stupid racist theories. If you are onto criticism of Black culture, I can understand, but what you do is not criticism. You attack the foundation of Black social fabric with your evil, malicious intentions. Where is the outcry from you Phil, when Sam and Epgah were launching brutal racial tirades against Blacks? Isn’t that what you love to hear as a White racist clown? The mask is off real good now, maybe it’s time to upload your real picture and finish the drama.”

      My problem with them is that they often used strawmen and have even try to justify the treatment of whites their which I do not tolerate.

  2. Jason Y

    Right I agree. No genocide going on. However, it could lead to a genocide in the future.

    Nonetheless, South Africa has a lot to gain from the international scene. Look how it hosted the World Cup. Note if it did decide to go the Mugabe route, then it would get punished and isolated again, much as it was under aparthied.

  3. Tarabas

    I can understand your loathing of the deep state and why some people absolutely despise US/NATO foreign policy. Mass brainwashing to support the US war machine is disgusting enough, armchair warriors “actin tuff” notwithstanding.

    The hypocrisy of the following website deserves a discussion all by itself.
    http://genocidewatch.net/
    It’s an obvious neocon website with a very US centric bias.

    Here’s their most recent country risk report
    http://genocidewatch.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Country-Risk-Report-2016-updated-pdf-Sheet1.pdf
    It’s divided into victims and “killers”. The word choice sounds like a sick joke, doesn’t it? It’s clear that those persecuted are nothing more than political chess pieces to those behind the report (absolute psychopaths who will resort to murder for financial gain).

    You’ll notice that GW is very selective when it comes to who they represent as victims. In Ukraine, Donbass Separatists are antagonised yet what is not mentioned is that Ukrainian police fired live ammunition on pro-Russian protestors. Thailand is omitted in the report while India, Mexico and Indonesia are severely downplayed.

    There is a very predictable trope going on over there. Maoists, Marxists, Commies, Socialists, etc. are always the oppressors while democrats are always the victims.

    In reality much can be said about America’s role in Iraq and the Middle East. Much can also be said about the ongoing tensions between blacks and cops in America. Or the never ending racial tensions there.

    One of their missions seems to be to end genocides the world yet how do they expect to achieve this if they are unwilling to present information in an unbiased fashion. How will genocides end when clear favoritism is practiced, when real dictators are shown leniency and certain ethnics and races are ignored altogether?

    It’s important to understand that while minorities and powerless groups are being slaughtered the world over, certain groups are using this to justify the US neo imperialism.

    Nothing says this better than the site’s founder himself.

    “Blaming Iraq’s civil war on the American invasion is similar to blaming the U.S. for the Cambodian genocide. It is upside-down logic to blame U.S. forces that are trying to stop the Iraqi civil war, just as it is perverse to blame America for communist atrocities.”

    http://www.genocidewatch.org/images/Iraq-30Sep07WhyDidYouAbandonUs.pdf

  4. Ultra Cool

    How bad to White South Africans have it anyway? Are blacks or the government actively denying them rights or resources? I don’t understand what is being done against them.

    • Specifically I’m referring to Boers, Dutch/German descent who mainly make up the white working class.

      Basically land reforms made to redistribute land based on Apartheid condidtions were made. What followed was farm attacks from other blacks killing them (an consequentially black workers under them).

      As well with new laws regarding hiring based on ethnicity left them at a disadvantage as well, with establishments such as hospitals not even taking them.

      • Jason Y

        What I don’t get it is, “Why bite the hand that feeds you?” If the Boers are giving the blacks agricultural jobs, then why do they want to kill them?

        • Jason Y

          Jobs are hard to come by in thde 3rd world, so it seems like the blacks would be grateful.

        • “What I don’t get it is, “Why bite the hand that feeds you?” If the Boers are giving the blacks agricultural jobs, then why do they want to kill them?”

          Well it’s been explained before many times, so you’ll probably see the answer again though I’m currently too preoccupied to repeat it.

          Though I’m actually planning to write an article to being closure to this.

        • JASON Y

          They don’t personally. They probably rape more African girls do to sheer proximity of opportunity.

          Crime waves are like hurricanes. They are largely impersonal.

        • Jason Y

          JASON Y

          They don’t personally. They probably rape more African girls do to sheer proximity of opportunity.

          Crime waves are like hurricanes. They are largely impersonal.

          Good point. WNs always make it seem the blacks are doing this stuff BECAUSE the victims are white. In reality, they’re just brutes who kill anyone in sight.

    • ULTRA COOL No, it’s simply impulsive in-the-moment violence for immediate gratification in the form of robbery, rape and violence through home-invasion or car jacking.

      The crime rate rose something like 400% after the ANC took power.

      There is also the currency devaluation that has driven many whites to leave as well as educated blacks.

      Remember this: the ruling or upper-class of whites will be the FIRST TO LEAVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO SO.

      • “Remember this: the ruling or upper-class of whites will be the FIRST TO LEAVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO SO.”

        But with that rule there is a conundrum in the case of South Africa, considering that whites within the bounds of working class are the ones that have a higher incentive to leave as well as farmers basically being in the state losing wealth when they do leave

        • PHIL I’ll present a reverse example.

          Educated grandchildren of Northern blacks and Louisiana Creoles nice communities in Harlem and Massachusetts. Small neighborhoods of black professionals.

          Then Italians began to enter the United States and swarmed into these formerly nice neighborhoods because they were more affordable: black professionals in those days earning less money but still living in nice neighborhoods.

          They became slums (Though Italian-Americans have moved into the middle-class since) and at the time it was difficult for blacks to move because of expenses.

          Another words those people in any society who would need the most assistance to relocate cannot do so and are subject to the tender mercies of sweeping socio-economic or geo-political forces.

        • “Educated grandchildren of Northern blacks and Louisiana Creoles nice communities in Harlem and Massachusetts. Small neighborhoods of black professionals.

          Then Italians began to enter the United States and swarmed into these formerly nice neighborhoods because they were more affordable: black professionals in those days earning less money but still living in nice neighborhoods.

          They became slums (Though Italian-Americans have moved into the middle-class since) and at the time it was difficult for blacks to move because of expenses.

          Another words those people in any society who would need the most assistance to relocate cannot do so and are subject to the tender mercies of sweeping socio-economic or geo-political forces.”

          Well that basically the point I was getting to. The thing is that white South Africans of Upper status leave due to resources, but my point is that if we are going to refer to major white/black incentives to leave South Africa Farmers I’m fairly sure are the more distinct demographic on the part of immigrating White South Africans.

  5. matt

    The situation in South Africa is disgusting on every level, even if it does not rise to the level of genocide. The crime, corruption, violence, and ignorance defy belief, especially given that they started with the resources of a first world society and squandered it in less than two decades.

    • Barack Thatcher

      Agreed. Bad but not quite genocide.

    • Jason Y

      Aparthied was morally wrong. (Sorry, but the truth though WNs don’t like it.) However, a nation with black poltiical domination will always be vastly more corrupt and poverty filled than one with white domaination. There is too much evidence backing the idea up. Possibly the problem lies in the fact there hasn’t been enough time for African society to get it together.

      • Jason Y

        Why did they have to have aparthied? Why not just a strong police state, like say the LAPD on steroids? Basically Los Angeles has no segregation, but it’s police force at times can be brutal, as we saw with Rodney King.

  6. First, let’s define ‘genocide’.

    (a) Killing members of the group;

    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the
    group;

    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life
    calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or
    in part;

    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the
    group;

    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

    http://www.teachgenocide.org/files/UN%20Definition%20of%20Genocide.pdf

    I’d say that a, b, and c apply. Don’t know about d and e though.

    The murder rate since Apartheid ended is astounding. It’s really unbelievable.

    This equates to 309,583 murders from the year 1950 to 1993 (44 years – averaging 7,036 per year), meanwhile according to SAPS statistics, 193,649 murders were committed in 8 years after the “new democratic dispensation” came to power, thus giving an average of 24,206 per year (crime statistics for 2002/03 are not yet available). However if we consider the Interpol statistics, which are only available on their website for the years, 1995-1999 and 2001 (6 years), the number of persons murdered in South Africa within those 6 years is 287,292 – averaging 47,882 per year. Clearly the new government is not winning the war on crime, especially violent crime.

    http://www.frontline.org.za/Files/PDF/murder_southafrica%20(5).pdf

    Too lazy to find a racial break down (if there is one).

    I agree with Phil. With the UN’s definition (which is pretty loose, I admit), this definetely is occurring.

  7. Sam J.

    No genocide? Ok, then why are people who run the government singing,”kill the Boers” at political rallies? Now maybe they’re just kidding but it’s not a very good joke. These people with their, not so funny, “kill the Boer” jokes run the country.

    • Matt

      This video made my head explode when I watched it a couple years ago. It isn’t just an abstract thing, whether it is genocide or not.

    • Jason Y

      That’s just common ethnic nationalism. In South Korea, for instance, most of them have almost no pity at all for Japanese citizens. Other examples can also be found in much of the Arab world, in the Pakistan/India conflict etc…

    • Jason Y

      Funny that WNs argue for free speech and freedom from political correctness Well there you go people, free speech in it’s full glory 😆 Sam posted it all for everyone to see !!

      Let’s not be wussy crybabies queers and complain about it OK? Take it like a man.😆

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