Benefits and Problems of Dengism in China

Well, that was Mao’s view.

I think the Cultural Revolution should just weed out the capitalist and reactionary elements in the party, that’s all. The Chinese Cultural Revolution went way too far and did a lot of bad things.

There haven’t been any cultural revolutions (not really anyway) ever since. I guess Stalin did in 1938 but he also killed all sorts of innocent people.

You don’t need constant cultural revolutions to preserve Communism.

As far as Deng Xiaoping’s model goes, China is still a Communist country in a very many ways. It’s market socialism. I think you need a market even in a Communist society. Otherwise everything goes wrong. The market should be used as a tool for harnessing the productive forces. The market would provide a lot of readily available goods, a pricing mechanism, etc. But the market needs to serve society, not the other way around. If the Party is in control, they could use the market as a tool and if any sector of the market ceased to serve society, the Party could step in and modify that sector, take it over or even shut it down.

But there are all sorts of problems with Dengism. Deng got rid of free health care in China. I believe in China, you need to pay to go to the doctor or get medicine. Millions of people are dying in China from lack of healthcare. This is the move that almost the entire world has cheered wildly for – Dengism. Have you ever heard the Western press say one bad thing about Dengism? How bout millions of people dying from lack of healthcare? Why should we cheer for that? What sort of person are you if you cheer for that? Capitalists cheer for stuff like that. Capitalists see millions of people dying for lack of healthcare, and they stand up and cheer. See why I have such a low opinion of capitalists?

Also sexism came back in a very big way under Deng. Men started treating women a lot worse than they did under Mao. I do not know why that is, but capitalism just seems to bring out the worst in people.

Of course the crime rate absolutely exploded under Deng.


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5 responses to “Benefits and Problems of Dengism in China

  1. ‘The Chinese Cultural Revolution went way too far and did a lot of bad things.’

    slight understatement but amen to that. at least you said it!

    I agree with most of what you said, about the role of the market, about the healthcare.

    I don’t trust commie statistics. Plus I doubt crime will ever be that high in China. People have stuff to rob now though.

    there is plenty wrong with capitalism, plenty wrong wit out civilization. Its way too materialistic but not everything can be solved by changing the economic system. Some problems are cultural and spiritual. A lot of things follow from how we think about life and death and the nature of things.

    • Commie statistics on most stuff is good and clean. No one has proven that they faked figures for health, education, housing, nutrition, or crime. In fact the UN went and found the exact same figures that the Cubans found.

      The Chinese Communists were not lying. There was little crime under Mao and it exploded with Deng. If you knew about the intimate links between capitalism and crime (continuing to be denied by capitalist fanboys on this site) you would not have even written that sentence.

      Crime is always lower under Communism. A country goes Commie and the crime rate often crashes. And every Communist country that went capitalist saw an explosion in crime with few exceptions.

  2. Reader

    You’re kinda random in terms of topics. I found your blog via the “You don’t want to be a genius” post which resonated with me.

    I’m a high IQ misfit who has been living in China for the last 6 years. It’s actually not such a bad place to live in, despite western propaganda and I feel much more at ease here as the natural outsider purely by appearance.

    My Chinese wife has some free healthcare card, but the public healthcare system is atrocious for anything but super basic diagnostics and treatments. It’s really cheap though (as in less than 5 bucks to see a doctor), so even the poorest of the poor can afford treatments in public hospitals that aren’t costly and long term, unlike in the US where you get billed for up to tens of thousands of dollars for simple stuff as an uninsured person.

    Exploding crime? It’s just economic crimes. China is one of the safest places I’ve ever been to, next to Japan. Chinese people have a really low tendency for violence and I have never seen a violent altercation in all these years despite being surrounded by millions of people every day.

  3. Yee

    Healthcare in Mao era was not free, but paid by employers. Since employers then were all level of governments, so it was seen as free.

    Now it’s a similar model with some restrictions. It’s setup as a state run medical security programme, employers pay 6% of your salary into the fund, yourself 2% into your personal medical account. 80% of the medical cost will be paid by the fund, 20% by your personal account. But it has a reimbursement limit about US$45K, and no reimbursement for imported medicines.

    Since medical care in China is quite low cost, as long as you don’t get very difficult to treat cancer or other long term illness, your 2% in the personal account has no problem cover all expenses. An abdomen surgery costs less than US$2000, sewing back a severed finger costs 600, you pay 20% of that. And these are at the best hospital in the Southern China region.

    Healthcare in China is not free, but it’s efficient and affordable. Actually, healthcare is one of the things overseas students miss most about home. Of course, it’s only for those not severely ill.

    • Yee

      In a bizarre way, China is coping the US, with some improvements. The same way we “stole” so many other things that make westerners angry.

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