Robert Stark, Rabbit, and Alex von Goldstein Talk about the 2nd Presidential Debate, Milo & the Alt Left

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This is a great show with Stark, Rabbit and von Goldstein. It’s not an interview – instead it’s just them discussing various things. They discuss me a fair amount here, so obviously it’s a great interview! Yay!

The first half they are mostly talking about Trump and Hillary and the election. All three of them support Trump, but the things they attack Hillary on are absolutely correct. She does indeed represent the worst of the Right and the Left.

They go on to discuss social democracy, health care models, and Trump and Hillary on US foreign policy in Syria.

They then go on to talk about the Alt Left a lot, including Rabbit’s piece, A Proposal to Go Away which takes on the newer Alt Left entryists who have heavily taken over the movement and are moving it away from Rabbit’s and my alternating views on either White advocacy, race realism, the Jewish Question, gender realism, Pedophile Mass Hysteria or other taboo topics some of which Rabbit and I have specialized in.

Rabbit takes offense to one of the entryists saying that Rabbit’s wing does not even belong on the Alt Left at all, when Rabbit practically founded the movement! Rabbit is a bit outraged about that. He also notes that the same person said that I might be ok, while Rabbit isn’t. Rabbit points out that I am not so sweet and innocent either and that I am tainted like he is. He makes the point that the whole idea of the Alt Left was to be a Left where you could talk about all sorts of taboo topics like race and gender realism, Red Pillism, MRA’s, PUA/Game, anti-feminism, sexual orientation realism, gender identity realism, etc.

Rabbit notes that first of all, I have been writing about Left Race Realism for a very long time – up to seven years. He also notes that if you go back and look at my older stuff you will find all sorts of incendiary material on Jewish influence, my being attracted to teenage girls (no apologies folks), etc.

In discussing Ryan England’s article, Rabbit, Stark and von Goldstein all agree that they would be on the Left Wing of the Alt Right. Rabbit also notes that he likes Ryan, and I agree. I like him very much. Actually this is still probably the biggest wing at the moment and the biggest Alt Left group on Facebook is apparently a problematic Left Wing of the Alt Group. They talk about Rabbit’s article about how Milo, whoever he is, is not one of us. He’s not Alt Right for sure, and no way on Earth is he Alt Left. They then go on to discuss why Rabbit never felt at home on the Alt Right – for much the same reasons I never did either.

They also discuss Retro Futurism, New Retro Wave, Synthwave, etc. and how some on the Alt Right are adopting some of these movements. Honestly, I have no idea what these movements are at all.

Robert Stark, Rabbit, and Alex von Goldstein Talk about the 2nd Presidential Debate, Milo & the Alt Left

Trump’s debate performance far exceeded the first debate and was consistent yet combative from the beginning.
How despite that, Trump did more to solidify his base rather than appeal to undecided voters.
How Trump responded to the leaked lewd comments of his.
Trump vows to get rid of the carried interest loophole, despite his support for tax cuts for the top 1%.
WikiLeaks Dump: Hillary Dreams of ‘Open Trade and Open Borders.
Excerpts from $Hilary Clinton$’s $Wall Street Speeches$.
How Hillary Clinton represent the worst of both the left and right (corporate plutocracy, anti-worker, anti-white and male discrimination, and neoconservative foreign policy).
In contrast, Bernie Sanders proposed policies that would have benefited the working and middle classes and like Trump posed a threat to the establishment.
How the political ideal would be to combine the best aspects of Trump and Sanders (ex. Radical Centrism).
How Trump’s economic policies are not ideal, but he is going as far as he can within the limits of the GOP’s Overton Window.
Health care in the debate, how Trump focused on criticizing Obamacare but only briefly touched on his proposal to allow insurance companies to compete over state lines.
Robert’s point that in the American health care model you’re screwed if you can’t afford health care, but in the public model in England where he lived, everyone gets health care, but the quality is not the same as private hospitals in the United States.
Rabbit’s point that socialized medicine works best in small homogeneous societies but not on a large scale in the United States.
Robert’s point that the Swiss Model for Health Care is the best of the existing models, but ideally insurance should be a usury-free public utility.
Trump correctly admitted that Russia, Iran and Assad are a counter balance to ISIS and Wahhabism to the dismay of GOP foreign policy hawks.
Why there needs to be restrictions on democracy.
Rabbit’s article A Proposal To Go Away about the Alt Left and how many of the new members are saying that Rabbit isn’t Alt Left, despite his being involved much longer.
How Alt Left founder Robert Lindsay has been involved in Left Race Realism for a long time.
The article Sub Types on the Alternative Left, and how Rabbit as well as Robert and Alex fit into the Left Wing of the Alt Right.
How the Trump’s campaign, Milo, and Breitbart are bringing mainline conservatives into the Alt-Right, and the Alt-Left is attracting disaffected Bernie Sanders supporters who still hold onto a degree of Political Correctness.
Rabbit’s article Milo Inc. – Not One of Ours Either about how Milo is a mainstream capitalist conservative, is not Alt -Right, and supports importing foreign tech workers and neoconservative foreign policy.
How despite that, Milo has been useful in trolling Political Correctness.
How Rabbit’s socially liberal views and interest in futurism and modern art often make him feel out of place in the Alt-Right.
Robert’s point that the Alt-Right is adopting Retro Futurism, New Retro Wave/Synthwave, and Vaporwave  (ex. Alt-Right Synthwave Artist Xurious).
Rabbit’s response that they are attracted to the aesthetics and popular memes but still hold onto reactionary traditionalist views.

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One response to “Robert Stark, Rabbit, and Alex von Goldstein Talk about the 2nd Presidential Debate, Milo & the Alt Left

  1. Tulio

    I’m somewhat familiar with retrowave but it’s a mind fuck to hear that it’s drawing the alt-right crowd. Why???

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