Black Male, 113 IQ

When we set Black male IQ’s at 113, the Black and White crime rates are equal. Now isn’t that interesting?

So if all Blacks were just as smart as Jews, they would be no more criminal than Whites. But sadly that’s not case.

Now this is very interesting. Let’s look at this group – the Whites with 113 IQ and the Blacks with 113 IQ. Were their life experiences different? If so, how? If the Black experiences were worse, then why were the Blacks immune to them? Let’s look at the genes. Whoa! Genes are not the same. 113 IQ Blacks had a number of high risk repeats and whatnot that can definitely raise the risk of crime. Yet in them, it didn’t raise it one bit. Wow that is interesting! Why not? How were they immunized?

I actually suspect that the answer here is twofold but both answers deal with the same thing – intelligence.

Theory 1: First of all, it is possible that 113 IQ Blacks have some general background criminal tendency risk common to the race. So they were sort of born with their mind wanting to go in these directions. My theory: At some point, IQ is so high that is swarms out your bad genes. At 113 IQ, perhaps the high IQ might enable Black men to “swamp out” their antisocial tendencies like a tidal wave washing over a village. The intelligence just overwhelms the bad drives and renders them moot.

There might be something to that because I am convinced that a lot of low crime people want to act bad too. Bad men do what good men dream. This has always been my thinking. There is one maniac running around raping and murdering women while 100 men are only dreaming of it. The role of repression in human behavior is severely underestimated.

I hate to say it, but I have had all sorts of criminal urges in my life. The overwhelming majority of the time, I was simply able to suppress or repress these urges and forget about them. My superego would come in and say You might get caught, it’s wrong, what about the person, how could you do that to them, what about jail what about prison, imagine what that could be like, you would never handle it, it would ruin your life, don’t do it. They few times I gave in, I decided it was not a bad thing to do and anyway, the victim deserved it. So it was more paybacks and revenge than anything else.

The take home point here may be that as IQ rises, we can suppress more and more of our nasty and antisocial impulses, not to mention our stupid impulses. IQ might be the Great Suppressor or the Great Repressor.

Theory 2: Another possibility is that the genes that elevate criminal tendency in Blacks are not evenly distributed in the Black population. Alpha and Tulio act good because they simply never got dosed with these repeats. And perhaps, as Black IQ rises, genes are connected with this IQ rise. And the higher the IQ, the fewer antisocial genes one is dealt because these traits sort of run together genetically. Conversely, as IQ descends, perhaps the frequency of high crime risk genes increases because these genes are tied in genetically with low IQ.

Anyway it is figures like this, where the “high crime race” commits exactly the same amount of crime as the “low crime race” and discovers just why it is that this is so that makes race realist research so interesting, even from a point of view of progressive motives.

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68 responses to “Black Male, 113 IQ

  1. Pingback: “Oh Well, She’s Just a Nigger Anyway” | Beyond Highbrow - Robert Lindsay

  2. The percentage of the black population that actually commit the crimes listed in the statistics is quite small. Right? It is possible for a small percentage of any given subgroup to make the entire subgroup look worse than they are. If a few bad actors commit many more crimes, this gives the appearance of a larger problem. The percentage of the black population committing crimes may be larger as compared to other subgroups, but this number should be taken into consideration. What percentage of the entire black population commit violent crimes? I know that locally, it’s less than 1% of the population that are committing the violent crimes, but this causes a perception of high danger in those cities.

    • Jason Y

      1 percent of violent blacks is enough to make a place a war zone.

      However, 10 to 20 percent of drug addicted whites isn’t enough to make a war zone, but it makes a neighborhood unliveable as it becomes full of bullying and extortion. You marry into one drug addicted white family and then they weasel everything out of you via theft, extortion, using children as pawns, identity theft.

      Ironically, the drug addicted whites usually hate blacks, even though they (the whites) are just as destructive as the blacks, but in their own different way.

      Note the whites always want to come across as your friend to enslave you, unlike the blacks who just put a bullet in your head.

      • TRASH

        JASON Y White drug addicts are not low IQ and they manage to live decades longer than the average Hispanic dealer or Ghetto crackhead. This is the problem.

        Many of them actually attend college where they discover cocaine or pills, drop out, hit the streets as petty dealers and thieves, go in an out of jail but do not die in a machine gun street war.

        So they live to be 50 and steal from their mothers, burglarized their neighbors or if they are female they work the streets and strip joints.

      • Your bully and extortion goes down in Asian neighborhoods. A white trash trailer park offers the small time theft and dope dealings that restricted to folks they have personal interaction with. The blacks on the other hand,… their criminally inclined behavior costs us all big time. We wish we only had issues with the fringe elements of white society. Crime rates would be minimal and we wouldn’t have moron white liberals bitching about unfair incarceration rates with certain groups. Give me the small issues created by trashy whites as opposed to the major problems created by the others. We lock them up and don’t give a shit.

        • TRASH

          I’d rank the Mestizos somewhere at the top for pure Banana republic mayhem. There is a limit to the ingenuity of blacks. They can walk up an shoot somebody but they cannot organize the SCARFACE level of violence that Al Pacino did in eighties Miami when cocaine was popular.

        • TRASH

          Meth users can pay $40 and be “good” for 3-4 days awake. Blacks have to smoke $500 worth of crack to be “good” for one day.

          Heroin is only drug of choice in Chinatown among users and they are either sick all the time or sleeping it off in some alley behind a Chinese restaurant.

          Asian mafias rarely want any trouble from whites, for some reason.

        • ((()))

          TRASH- Yes but the people on top of the drug empires are typically at least Castizo; Pablo Escobar was criollos, El Chapo appeared to be Castizo.

  3. Jason Y

    SD, also known at Trash, brought up the fact serial killers also have high IQs. If anything, the high IQ commit crimes like the lower IQ, but they’re better at covering them up.

    • Jason Y

      Of course, in classic theology it’s claimed the sinful nature is equal among everyone, but HBDers believe sin correlates with IQ. However, if the sinful nature thing is a joke and it’s all IQ, then what good is the Christian message?

    • TRASH

      Dahmer lived in a ghetto where crack wars were going on at the time and it is noted that today he probably would have been caught years earlier (He was in and out of prison for kidnapping males while bodies rotted in his house) but at that time the legal system was overwhelmed because of the crack wars of the late 80’s and early 90’s.

  4. ujpes_djkd

    The only way to make your dream concerning the IQ of black folks is extensive interbreeding, or genetic engineering.

    As for “if black were as smart as Jews”: can you imagine how boastful, overbearing, unpalatable, they’d become?
    I don’t even want to, lol. One ethnic group like that is enough.
    Moreover, they two groups, original Jews and novel “Jews” would start fighting with no quarter given for supremacy.
    That would be so… explosive.

    The fraction of a race, f, having an average IQ of x̄ and a standard deviation in IQ of σ, which is above the minimum IQ of μ.

    f(μ) = ½ − [σ√(2π)]⁻¹ ∫(x̄,μ) exp{ −[(x−x̄)/σ]²/2 } dx

    Suppose that for Race #1,
    x̄=101.5
    σ=16.4

    And that for Race #2,
    x̄=85
    σ=12.4

    I define the IQ Qualified Ratio as IQQR = f₁(μ)/f₂(μ). The IQQR is the ratio of the fraction of Race #1 having IQs above μ to the fraction of Race #2 having IQs above μ.

    For μ=110, IQQR=13.8
    For μ=120, IQQR=54.4
    For μ=130, IQQR=289.1
    For μ=140, IQQR=2057
    For μ=150, IQQR=19530

    • Well actually if you select for that actual behavior and not IQ, it wouldn’t take very long or necessarily race mixing.

      What would work would be outbreeding, meaning mixing with those distant fronm you immediate family. Depending on how it is done you would see an increase in intellect and altruism.

  5. ujpes_djkd

    First of all, it is possible that 113 IQ Blacks have some general background criminal tendency risk common to the race.

    Odd you didn’t name it, as it was both more kindly and accurate, “impulse control”. That’s all what it is. We can also name it “self-repression” ability, of course.
    I don’t think it’s commensurate to IQ, but there must certainly be a very high correlation linking the two.

  6. jamzw

    113? Talented two percent.

  7. Stary Wylk

    “The percentage of the black population that actually commit the crimes listed in the statistics is quite small. Right?”

    Only if you consider 28% (DOJ stat) quite small.

    ” …serial killers also have high IQs.”

    That’s why they are serial killers; without the intelligence, they’d get caught with fewer victims.

    It would be interesting and useful to study Black crime rates compared to White crime rates before 1960. That was when it became common to blame everything wrong with Blacks on White people. When humans get to avoid responsibility for their evil acts they usually behave more evilly.

    • TRASH

      Our worst serial killers have been street Jews in NYC and Anglo people. Joel Goodman and Son of Sam were killing people in the most crowded urban places on earth.

      IQ makes them dangerous.

      • One feral black buck out on the weeken in Chicago, kills more then the son of Sam did during his entire Broadway premier you dolt. And per population percentages, more peoples of color are serial killers and mass shooters. The lack of IQ makes them fellas even more dangerous.

        • TRASH

          KI Rubbish, the average Blood or Crip is busted the first or second time he shoots another black he is “beefing” with from some other “set” and is prison by the time he is 22. He gets out at 40 and maybe does it once more time.

          Mass shootings. Yes, anybody can open fire in a subway.

          They do not kill 35 people and ingeniously dispose of their bodies like Dahmer or Goodman. They do not have the capacity for organized planning.

          Blacks also kill other blacks within their specific geography “the hood”. None of them will drive to another state and kill a victim.

        • TRASH

          Nonsense, they are apprehended within a week and in jail at age 22 for life. Watch First 48. MORE of them decide to shoot somebody or stab them than whites but none of them kill 35 people like Dahmer or Manson or Gacy. They lack the facilities, knowledge of police procedure, cannot remain silent (Most are caught for boasting of their crime), cannot dispose of the remains.

          There are exceptions like the DC Sniper but most of them do not have the gas to leave their ghetto so are inflicting violence on other criminals over drug territory or gang-related matters of 9 square feet of ground (“our hood”).

          Whites are killed by blacks MOSTLY while trying to buy crack cocaine (Blacks do not sell meth or pills) in a black neighborhood or they are sex maniacs using hoodrat prostitutes.

          Blacks never go on a rampage in the rural white United States because they are afraid Leatherface will spring out with his chainsaw. Nor do they go on shooting rampages in the barrios where Mestizos are well-armed and prepared to retaliate.

    • TRASH

      STARY WALK Blacks and Hispanics murder one another in MANLY confrontations where both offenders have guns and one is drawn first.

      White serial killers tend to target hapless prostitutes on the street, the elderly, gays, children.

      There is a strong streak of cowardliness there.

      • Stalin Tonks

        I don’t want you disrespecting white serial killers. Take that back.

        • TRASH

          If two black males above 18 who are ruthless and engaged in street wars over cocaine sales territory murder each other in what is basically a fair fight I am not sure if that is quite the same is some poor prostitute being killed by a maniac with a hammer.

      • Stary Wylk

        “Serial killers tend to target hapless prostitutes on the street, the elderly, gays, children.” Fixed that for you.

        ” Blacks and Hispanics murder one another in MANLY confrontations where both offenders have guns and one is drawn first.” You make a picture something like “High Noon”.

        • He has a point though that probably a decent chunk of Black on Black murders are in thug related activity, but his take of them is still rather in acclaiming them as manly and distinct from “sick stuff”, the latter of which black are no strangers to either.

    • TRASH

      STARY WALK Irish in America were known for high levels of violence because at the time they washed up in the States Ireland was primitive and poor place.

      Blacks invented the word “white trash” to describe them.

  8. TRASH

    JASON Y Leatherface in Texas Chainsaw Massacre actually gets his ass handed to him when he rushes the Black Maria truck driver.

    My point….white serial killers tend target the weak and unarmed but fare less well against those that are.

    Dahmer himself was raped in prison and later killed by a black inmate.

  9. ((()))

    So it would appear testosterone is more the culprit than low IQ caused low impulse control?
    Regardless, did they look at the crime rates of Blacks and Whites at each IQ point or IQ range? How did they have data for this? It seems odd.

    • O forget the name of the site. Steven Hsu. There you go. One of the earliest HBD sites. I think he was talking crime rates between Blacks and Whites and he said when you set IQ at 113, the crime rates are identical.

    • Not necessarily. When controlling for IQ, the black-white difference in incarceration closes by 3/4.

      So there is still some disparity. Not being able to control impulses is a big one, and since blacks have low impulse control and high test (negative correlation), this is cause for some of the crime differences between the two groups.

  10. TRASH

    Canadian of German extraction who lived in the Upper Midwest suburbs. A Yankee, another words.

  11. TRASH

    Canadian, German extraction. Lived in Upper Midwest and now in Asia.

    K.I. is likely of British extraction, likes to think himself a noble Scots highlander, lives West of Chicago and East of LA.

  12. TRASH

    KI I’m of German extraction from Berlin but why is it that whites from the South who talk about being “white” don’t know where their ancestors are from in Europe?

    For all the talk of Whiteness they really know little about their roots.

  13. Whites and blacks differ in MAOL. For the 2 r allele it’s 5 percent for blacks and .01 percent for whites and for the 3 r allele it’s 37 percent for whites and 52 percent of blacks.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24326626/

    The small 4.9 percent difference in testosterone on average between the two may account for more.

    MAOL may explain a nice big chunk of the black-white crime difference.

    • This basically deals with the breaking down of serotonin in the brain.

      Blacks, proportionately, have the “dangerous variant” much higher than whites, but there could be some form of medical help that could help with Serotonin absorption would likely ameliorate this issue.

    • Chinedu

      When adjusted for a racist criminal justice system and unprosecuted white crimes, blacks are not more criminally active than whites. We know, for example, that white women are prolific shoplifters. The reason they’re such successful shoplifters is because no one is watching them. So then shoplifting arrest statistics are untrustworthy. We know that black people are sent to prison for the same crimes for which whites are not even prosecuted (drug related offenses, for example). So crime statistics are absolutely unreliable. We know that almost half of the prisoners exonerated by DNA evidence have been black. Extrapolating from that figure, it would seem that a significant percentage of blacks currently incarcerated are actually innocent, including those locked up for crimes that don’t lend themselves DNA analysis.

      The study you linked to said the following:

      The limitations of the study are discussed and suggestions for future research are offered

      A person genuinely interested in the truth would say “Gee, I’d better look into these limitations and maybe wait for future research before making sweeping declarations. But of course you don’t have any interest in the truth. Your only interest is in pushing a racist agenda.

      • Even homicide, Chinedu? There’s all these Whites running around committing homicide but no one is going after them because they think Whites don’t do that stuff or the system is too busy persecuting Blacks? If that’s true, I can think of a couple of people I ought to go kill right now, considering that I can get away with it because I’m White and all.

        Chinedu, the figures that show Blacks committing up to 8X more crime than Whites are from VICTIM SURVEYS. Those are from the FBI’s victim surveys. They go around and ask people if they have been victims of a crime. So there’s no bias. I’m not sure how that works though.

        Your theory does not pass the smell test. How many reports do we hear of Blacks complaining that crime is through the roof in their neighborhood? How often do we hear that from others living in Black neighborhoods. If someone were to move from a White city to a Black city, they would be stunned by the crime increase in the Black city. It would make the Black city look like paradise. Just about everyone who moves like this describes an identical difference.

        And just about everyone who moves from a Black city to a White city comments on how the crime rate has plunged down towards the center of the Earth and how much safer things are. Not only that, but after a 20% tipping point, as neighborhoods become more and more Black, just about everyone comments that the crime rate is going up, often by a lot. You either have to argue that all of these people are lying or racist or hallucinating.

        We can also look at police calls. There are vastly more calls to the police in a Black city than in a White city. Why are people calling the cops all the time in Baltimore? Because they are racist and hate Blacks? It’s mostly Black people calling the cops.

        All Caribbean countries have very high crime rates, especially violent crime. Brazil, Colombia, Panama, and Venezuela all have very high crime rates, especially for violent crime. All Sub-Saharan African nations have high crime rates, especially for violent crime, generally above European levels.

        Are people racist pricks in the Caribbean, South America and Africa? Some of those countries are almost all Black? Black people are racist against their own kind?

    • “When adjusted for a racist criminal justice system and unprosecuted white crimes, blacks are not more criminally active than whites. We know, for example, that white women are prolific shoplifters.”

      Source
      “The reason they’re such successful shoplifters is because no one is watching them. So then shoplifting arrest statistics are untrustworthy. We know that black people are sent to prison for the same crimes for which whites are not even prosecuted (drug related offenses, for example).”

      http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/is-the-criminal-justice-system-racist/

      ” So crime statistics are absolutely unreliable. We know that almost half of the prisoners exonerated by DNA evidence have been black.”

      Yet I’ve pointed out

      A. They make up only a small amount of black criminals/
      B. That doesn’t prove that other blacks didn’t do the crime.

      “Extrapolating from that figure, it would seem that a significant percentage of blacks currently incarcerated are actually innocent, including those locked up for crimes that don’t lend themselves DNA analysis.”

      Again, no.

      https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/09/28/possibilities-for-race-realist-research-with-progressive-motives-and-possibly-outcomes/#comment-275267

      They were basically estimated in the thousands

      http://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/raceinc.html

      When these rates are compared to the 38 million Afram population, it works it way to over 800 thousand incarcerated.

      • Chinedu

        I don’t think anyone here takes you seriously Phil. You’ve destroyed your reputation with your racist trolling. You’re too stupid to figure out that you should tone it down a bit or you’ll lose all credibility.

        • “I don’t think anyone here takes you seriously Phil.”

          Wow…that’s probably the most projecting and contradicting statement you’ve said yet.

          Why would no one HERE take my “racist trolling seriously” if this is a racist blog as you’ve said before?

          “You’ve destroyed your reputation with your racist trolling. You’re too stupid to figure out that you should tone it down a bit or you’ll lose all credibility.”

          How about YOU tone done you ad homines because, last I’ve checked, Robert actually warned YOU about being banned.

    • To Chinedu,

      “A person genuinely interested in the truth would say “Gee, I’d better look into these limitations and maybe wait for future research before making sweeping declarations. But of course you don’t have any interest in the truth. Your only interest is in pushing a racist agenda.”

      I had gave you a link that cited multiple studies that had replicated replicated the magnitude of the differences.

      http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/maoa-race-and-crime/

      • Chinedu

        You’re a racist troll, Phil. I’m not wasting my time with you. I don’t feed trolls.

        • Then why did you respond in the first place when you should’ve known by now that I would?

          Again, nice comeback.

        • Chinedu

          Just letting you know so you don’t somehow think you’re carrying the debate with with your myopic, out of context, uncorroborated, scientifically and mathematically illiterate, cheerypicked junk. I won’t debate you. I would read your gibberish and I won’t click on your white supremacist links.

        • “I won’t debate you. I would read your gibberish and I won’t click on your white supremacist links.”

          Not sure why you wouldn’t, you managed to point out a few things with some of the other literature brought up.

          But fine, I’ll being up an actual study directly.

          http://vahabonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/sjakdg..pdf

          “One of the most consistent findings in the criminological literature is that African American males are
          arrested, convicted, and incarcerated at rates that far exceed those of any other racial or ethnic group.
          This racial disparity is frequently interpreted as evidence that the criminal justice system is racist and
          biased against African American males. Much of the existing literature purportedly supporting this interpretation,
          however, fails to estimate properly specified statistical models that control for a range of individual-level
          factors. The current study was designed to address this shortcoming by analyzing a sample of
          African American and White males drawn from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health
          (Add Health). Analysis of these data revealed that African American males are significantly more likely
          to be arrested and incarcerated when compared to White males. This racial disparity, however, was completely
          accounted for after including covariates for self-reported lifetime violence and IQ. Implications of
          this study are discussed and avenues for future research are offered.”

  14. Shawn

    I recall reading somewhere that black males are more sensitive to testosterone–something like they had receptors that picked it up more easily, and this party explains their behavior. Maybe this is why hookers often say “no black men under 40” (or some similar older age).

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