For Men: How to Catch HIV from a Woman

John writes:

Oh, yes. Hello. Just as I thought. When stories come out in the press about heterosexuals contracting HIV from sexual intercourse, it’s always women. I know two women infected, have heard of others, but never a straight man. I know a bunch of guys who don’t always use condoms and not one of them has HIV. HPV or other less serious stuff, sure; but never HIV. If you ask any person on the street if they know or have heard of a case involving a heterosexual male who never went bi or who isn’t a junkie having HIV, I guess the vast majority will say they haven’t.

This is how you get it if you are a man:

Plan 1: Get yourself an HIV-positive wife or girlfriend. Be monogamous with her.

Have sex with her ~700 times over a five year period. That means you are having sex with her maybe 140X/yr or 10X/month. Never use a condom. Make sure to have some incidents of vaginal and/or penile bleeding during the sex (very important).

Ok, now after you had sex with her 700 times over that five year period, you now have a 20% chance that you got HIV from her. But you have an 80% chance that you didn’t get it! Bummer! This a very poor and lengthy way to get HIV from a woman, and you probably won’t even get it, so it’s hardly worth it to try it, but you can try it as a last resort if nothing else works. Plan 2 is a much better and more efficient way to get HIV.

So you see, you can get it from a woman, but it is not that easy.

Here is an easier way:

Plan 2: Go to Thailand as a Western sex tourist. Have sex with some prostitutes. It would be best if you ask around to find out which prostitutes are HIV-positive. This is an easier way to get it because the HIV strain in Thailand transmits easier female-male than the one in the West. Only have sex with the HIV-positive ones. Refuse to use a condom no matter what she says.

Make sure you fuck her dry, that is, when she is not aroused. This generally will cause some vaginal bleeding (very important). Keep doing for a while, and you will probably get HIV.

This is the best way I can think of to get HIV from a woman. So if you are a man looking to get HIV from a woman during sex, I would recommend this route. Plan 1 is much riskier because it takes years, and even after quite a few years, you still might not get it. Plan 2 would be much better for men looking for a more surefire and rapid transmission.

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27 responses to “For Men: How to Catch HIV from a Woman

  1. How do you explain the nonsense being spewed by Center of Disease Control and the World Health Orginization, that HIV/AIDS spreads equally through heterosexual sex in South Africa?

  2. SHI

    Excellent post! Saved for future use. Thanks.

    Robert, I have applied lessons from your past blogs on HIV to enable reassurance in my personal life. I did have, in Donald Trump’s words, “my own personal Vietnams”, but most of the fear was unfounded. Engage in high risk sexual pursuits all you want.

    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/how-do-you-get-hiv-anyway/

    (This is really gold. By far, your biggest masterpiece on the subject of HIV transmission. The level of detailing is unprecedented – blowjobs, anal, etc. This should be mandatory reading in all college sex education classes.)

    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/the-myth-of-male-heterosexual-hiv/

    (This is pretty good too).

    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/female-to-male-hiv-transmission-much-ado-about-nothing/

    (Tongue-in-cheek!)

  3. SHI

    <i.Plan 2: Go to Thailand as a Western sex tourist. Have sex with some prostitutes. It would be best if you ask around to find out which prostitutes are HIV-positive. This is an easier way to get it because the HIV strain in Thailand transmits easier female-male than the one in the West. Only have sex with the HIV-positive ones. Refuse to use a condom no matter what she says.

    I have been to that country on three separate occasions: 2006 New Year, 2008 and 2009. So, here’s a run-down of the HIV situation.

    Sex with Transgenders (ladyboys/Katoyes) – Your chances of catching HIV drastically go up especially if you don’t use condoms. But, most trans will refuse sex to you if you don’t use a condom. Over there in Thailand, many Western sex tourists, even the heterosexual types, fall for the trans compared to women. Can’t blame them. Thai trannies are so god-damned attractive, “lady-like”, feminine, demure and soft-spoken that there’s really no way to refuse Many of them have had genital reassignment and facial feminization surgeries so there is no dick to deal with.

    Thailand is a global gender change destination http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-10-26/how-thailand-became-a-global-gender-change-destination

    I do recall with horror at this now but as they say, “What happens in Bangkok, stays in Bangkok.”

    Sex with Russian women from CIS countries – Some of the sois (streets) of Bangkok and Pattaya, as well as hotel lobbies, are filled with white women from Russia, Belarus, Georgia, Azerbaijan etc.

    Many of them have been in Thailand for 5-6 years at least, if not one decade. Some of them have died from AIDS.

    These Russian women in Thailand engage in high risk sexual pursuits. They have all the symptoms of “bleeding”, warts and other disgusting stuff that Robet mentioned. Some of them are having sex with 10 to 15 customers a night. On average, 3 to 4 per night at least.

    To hell with condoms. I don’t know if the situation has changed now but many customers don’t like to use any protection with these women. Some men have been infected in the past thanks to these Russians. So, heterosexual sex does cause you HIV.

    Sex with women from West African and Southern African countries –

    There are quite a few African prostitutes in Thailand. They happen to be infected. The chances of contracting something from them is as high as women from CIS countries.

    Sex with Thai/Chinese heterosexual women – Perfectly safe. The Thai and Chinese women take GREAT CARE in personal hygiene and keep themselves very clean and presentable. They also get regularly tested at government laboratories. Straight sex with Thai and Chinese hookers in Thailand without a condom is perfectly safe. Even then the girls, many of them won’t agree to fuck you without a condom. But it’s always possible to get a blowjob without a condom.
    Sex with regular Thai/Chinese women – Perfectly safe. In Thailand, the lines between hookers and regular women is increasingly blurred. Many college students take to prostitution for extra pocket money with no social stigma attached. Again, they take great care of their personal hygiene.

    • Spamby

      Lol, I agree with all of that except the part that says “no social stigma.” Thais do, indeed look down on women that sell sex, even if they use their services, they still see them as inferior.

  4. James Schipper

    Come on, Robert, are you really saying that it is harder for a man to get HIV from a woman than from another man? Isn’t that homophobic and disgustingly politically incorrect? Shame on you!

  5. Kareem

    Is HIV harder to get from a woman from anal sex also?

    • SHI

      Yea, no matter how hard you try, the chances are pretty miniscule.

      It’s better to use a condom though in anal, just to be on the safer side. The main reason is because it’s a filthy, disgusting area.

      The whole idea of putting that shit-stained condom back into the vag is very French, very disgusting (puke). I love fucking her ass more than anything else but only once I’ve changed over.

      Based on my experience, a hell lot of women irrespective of race, class or age enjoy being fucked from behind even though they will refuse missionary or even a blowjob.

      There’s a reason every decent condom packet comes in serving size of 3 units.

      • Based on my experience, a hell lot of women irrespective of race, class or age enjoy being fucked from behind even though they will refuse missionary or even a blowjob.

        You mean they like getting fucked in the ass, is that what you are saying? I would say that some women like it, and some don’t. I had a gf once who was a total anal maniac. She said she had done it ~2,000 times. There are others who say they will only do it sometimes because they think it’s risky to do it too much. You can definitely get injured getting fucked in the ass. You have to be careful if you are going to do that sex act.

        The whole idea of putting that shit-stained condom back into the vag is very French, very disgusting (puke). I love fucking her ass more than anything else but only once I’ve changed over.

        This is a terrible idea. They do this in pornos or it seems like they are doing it. It’s insane. You never put your penis in a woman’s ass and then put it in her vagina. She can get a very bad infection that way. That’s why they teach girls all those “always wipe from front to back” lessons about how to wipe after they pee, or shit I guess. I believe the reason women get UTI’s from regular sex is because God messed up and put the anus right next to the vagina and in vaginal sex some bacteria from the ass can somehow makes its way into the vagina. That’s also why a lot of women pee after sex.

        It’s better to use a condom though in anal, just to be on the safer side. The main reason is because it’s a filthy, disgusting area.

        Well, if you notice in pornos, the guy’s penises never have one tiny bit of shit on them? That’s because the women do enemas before having anal sex. That way the ass is very clean so the guy doesn’t get any shit on his penis. The only way I will do that sex act is if she does an enema first. Forget it.

        You do not always get shit on your penis though. Sometimes the anus is clean anyway so your penis is fine. Really the anus usually has nothing in it. She can also wash her ass with hot water and soap by sticking her finger up there until it’s clean. There’s a lot of ways to clean out your ass so you don’t have to deal with shit on your penis.

        • SHI

          I was only trying to say that I’ve never been refused a request for anal sex. It’s weird and really don’t know to explain this. I told you about this affair I had with my female, married boss back in 2012. A day came when I found her alone in the office. We cuddled and started kissing each other rather passionately. Soon I pulled down my pants (I like going commando usually, i.e. no underwears). My dick was really, really hard. It felt like a scene straight from a porno movie. As I proceeded to undress her with my hands, she started resisting. I would have none of it, I wanted to fuck her so badly. She yelled, “no”. I just grabbed her by the arms and pinned her down to a table, softly whispering in her ears that “I’m only going to fuck you in the ass, Very HARD, and then you can leave.” later another day she would confess to me that I had turned her on incredibly through my dominating and aggressive personality.

          She agreed reluctantly. I released her now and commanded that she slip a condom on my erect dick (I always carry condoms). I don’t really know how to put on a condom by myself. I always prefer the lady to do the honors. I have really never done it myself.

          Oh the anal sex lasted for at least half an hour, if not more. She was fully-dressed but I was so darn turned on. I wanted to fuck her desperately all these days. Today I was going to strike gold. I didn’t care no more if we were to be discovered.

          Well yes, she got a TON of pleasure and was shrieking and moaning like never before. I was imagining her cuck of a husband and she was enjoying her slut moment.

          Later my dick got tired and limping, but she begged me for some more. I said, “no. This is punishment for you refusing me the first time, being such a bitch of a boss.” we laughed, kissed and cuddled. True to my word, I didn’t fuck her in the vag. Maybe she wanted to save it for the marriage.

          Of course, we had penile-vaginal inter course the next time. We went the whole 9 yards on Kama Sutra. I was enjoying fucking her brains out. She always preferred ASS First, only ASS, endless BUTT-fucking. I was concerned I might injure her ass linings. But she told me it felt really good when I funked her in the ass, “your nerve endings are very sensitive”. Whatever that is supposed to mean.

          In fact, I have been complimented by other women as well on my ability to tear their ass apart and yet make them feel awesome.

          It’s an INSTINCT thing I believe. Maybe women somehow sense this guy must be incredibly good at fucking in the ass. I don’t know. But so far, I’ve never been refused a request for anal sex.

        • SHI

          Well, if you notice in pornos, the guy’s penises never have one tiny bit of shit on them? That’s because the women do enemas before having anal sex. That way the ass is very clean so the guy doesn’t get any shit on his penis. The only way I will do that sex act is if she does an enema first. Forget it.

          You do not always get shit on your penis though. Sometimes the anus is clean anyway so your penis is fine. Really the anus usually has nothing in it. She can also wash her ass with hot water and soap by sticking her finger up there until it’s clean. There’s a lot of ways to clean out your ass so you don’t have to deal with shit on your penis.

          Enemas never occurred to me. Yes, a lot of women keep it clean but a lot of them have disgusting butthole regions. I don’t mind giving cunnilungus even though the pee gets mixed up often. I’ve had women pee on my face and I have swallowed. Fair game, no problem. Although I wouldn’t do it every single time, I’m not disgusted by women’s pee.

          But I do draw the line at shit, scat, blood and those disgusting discharges. Once a girl made me go down on her while she was menstruating. It was holy blood all over. I almost choked with a gag reflex, and started crying like a baby. She was like “what the fuck. Are you a real man?” Yes, I don’t fancy virgins at all. Prefer someone else to do the hard work.

          Luckily most girls nowadays are not virgins. In my town of Fucksville, I don’t think there is a single virgin above 20.

          Racially, some women have better anal hygiene than others. Chinese and Thai women are supremely clean. Maybe they do enemas all the time. Ass-lovers might enjoy eating out of those buttholes.

          White women can vary subjectively. A Czech lady I fucked in Prague had the face of an angel but the most dirty and disgusting buttholes and hairy vag. My favorites have been Polish women. They are incredibly amazing lays, as clean and hygienic the Asians. I have fucked Spanish women too (from Spain). They are clean but the ones I fucked kinda didn’t smell that great. The French women are awesome as well, at least the ones I had. Real ladies. The English woman was amazing too.

          I have fucked only one US White woman so far. She was clean and smooth.

          As for Indian women, 60 per cent of them have terrible, terrible hygiene. It’s just like that Czech woman I had described.

        • Racially, some women have better anal hygiene than others. Chinese and Thai women are supremely clean. Maybe they do enemas all the time. Ass-lovers might enjoy eating out of those buttholes.

          White women can vary subjectively. A Czech lady I fucked in Prague had the face of an angel but the most dirty and disgusting buttholes and hairy vag. My favorites have been Polish women. They are incredibly amazing lays, as clean and hygienic the Asians. I have fucked Spanish women too (from Spain). They are clean but the ones I fucked kinda didn’t smell that great. The French women are awesome as well, at least the ones I had. Real ladies. The English woman was amazing too.

          There is no way whatsoever to keep your ass clean. It’s just not possible. The women in porn often do not eat the day before anal sex and they always do enemas before anal scenes, really no exceptions I suppose. You can’t keep your ass clean by doing enemas all the time, and that’s probably not a good idea. The only way to be clean really is if she does an enema beforehand or washes it out with soap and hot water with a finger. Or you can just check her with your finger up her ass to see if she is clean. I have stuck my finger all the way women’s asses and it went right in all the way. I pulled out and it was clean as a whistle. Women who do a lot of anal have loose assholes because the ass gets loosed up the more it gets fucked. So with an anal maniac, you just stick your finger up and it goes right in.

          You also need to use lube for anal sex. Some people say spit is ok, but that would not be enough. Women told me just stick in the woman’s vagina so it gets wet and then put it in her ass. I do not think you will lube your penis up enough by putting it in her vag first or by using spit for lube. It’s just not enough. Use lots of lube and lube her up really good and you can even lube up your penis real good.

          The ass has no lubrication, so you need to use lube. If you go in without lube, it can be very painful for the woman and plus you can definitely hurt her. Fissures or tears are the most common injuries from anal sex. I know a woman who got torn a couple of times by getting anally raped, and she said the fissures just healed right up. After one rape though, her ass bled for a month afterwards.

  6. Johnny Caustic

    Two additional tips.

    Try to acquire gonorrhea, herpes, and/or syphilis first. They will create sores or microulcerations on the penis that make it easier for the AIDS virus to enter.

    Be uncircumcised. Circumcision reduces the transmission risk by about 50%.

  7. Ken

    Having HSV increases the chances of catching HIV i believe, but i don’t know if that applies to straight men, or if the type of HSV you have makes a difference. I think HSV2 is the genital type, so its probably higher risk than HSV1

    • Yes some straight men have gotten HIV from a woman when they had sex with an HIV-infected woman when the men had active Herpes lesions. With Herpes, you are either breaking out or you are not. It is very bad at first, and then it goes away pretty much except you break out maybe a week out of a year.

    • I think you do not get HSV1 on your penis. It’s only on your mouth and you won’t get HIV from HSV1. It is HSV2 or Herpes Genitalis that you get HIV from if you have active lesions and yes straight men are at risk. There are straight men who have gotten HIV from a woman because they had HSV2 and they were breaking out when it they had sex.

  8. Only 2 ways men can get HIV from a woman. Needle sharing and repeated sex exposure to an infected individual, but I kind of doubt the latter.

    As you can see, sexual promiscuity or having many female sex partners plays virtually no role increasing your odds of getting HIV, unless you come down with genital herpes, but even then, your odds are very slim.

    When someone like Magic Johnson claims he slept with over 300 women, the blind public goes “Ah that’s how he got it.” Nope, doesn’t work that way.

    You can have unprotected sex 500 times with an known HIV positive female, and still not get infected. This is why there’s never been and never will be an AIDS epidemic amongst heterosexuals, except Bogus South Africa.

    Once HIV spreads to a woman, it becomes viral dead end.

  9. There’s a fundamental reason why it’s exceedingly difficult for a woman to spread HIV. They don’t have a penis. 😀

  10. SHI

    You also need to use lube for anal sex. Some people say spit is ok, but that would not be enough. Women told me just stick in the woman’s vagina so it gets wet and then put it in her ass. I do not think you will lube your penis up enough by putting it in her vag first or by using spit for lube. It’s just not enough. Use lots of lube and lube her up really good and you can even lube up your penis real good.

    The ass has no lubrication, so you need to use lube. If you go in without lube, it can be very painful for the woman and plus you can definitely hurt her. Fissures or tears are the most common injuries from anal sex. I know a woman who got torn a couple of times by getting anally raped, and she said the fissures just healed right up. After one rape though, her ass bled for a month afterwards.

    I did mention I don’t like to go in rear-side without a condom. Lubricants aren’t necessary for women to enjoy anal sex safely. Maybe in the US all women insist on lubes but in third-world countries, most people haven’t even heard of them. Lubes are a recent modern invention.

    Even latex condoms weren’t around before much of the 20th century. But anal sex has been around since the dawn of time. All right the ancients may have used products similar to lubes but can’t really compare that to the advanced formulas of modern-day, latex condoms.Lubes aren’t even handy. It’s perfectly normal to be carrying condoms on you at a bar/nightclub but imagine lube gels in your jeans rear pocket. I mean you can carry them of course but it’s awkward.

    I mainly use Durex High Sensation, Extra Sensitive Ultra Thin or similar brands. These products have been manufactured so well, they snugly fit over my manhood, giving me a “lock” sensation for me. It’s like a whole new penis was just born. Zero complaints. And they’re really effective during anal sex. None of my girls ever complained. I have gone on and on and on. Durex has been my closest buddy for like what, 15 years now. It has never let me down. God bless Durex!

    I used cheap condoms a few times which are the complete opposite of my favorite brand. Over here in this country, we have cheap condom brands like “Kama Sutra”, “Mood” and “Man-Force”. Vile, disgusting products prone to breakage.

  11. SHI

    Damn, just going up and down this god-damned thread makes me so horny. Maybe it’s the Zinc in my new diet. I’m gonna fuck someone tonight.

  12. The Big Myth of South Africa

    We know the AIDS heterosexual epidemic in Africa is false, because it’s never been a big factor in U.S.A, or throughout the world. How does a retro virus subtype hit dominant heterosexual population in one part of the world, but is exclusive throughout the rest of the world, on epidemic levels.

    HIV-subtype B is common strain amongst homosexual men and IV drug abusers. It’s origin is Africa, and has emigrated throughout the world. Keep in mind, gay men and IV drug addicts are very small part of the population, yet this strain has infected and killed many of those two groups.

    The gay population is roughly 3%. Gay male pop is around 1.5%. We exclude lesbians, since they are rarely infected with HIV virus. IV drug abuse population is less than .5%. The heterosexual( Male and Female)non IV drug population is about 50X greater than gay men/IV drug population.

    There’s no reason for HIV virus subtype( C) that greatly affects heterosexuals(predominant group) in South Africa(allegedly) to stay doormant in one place after 35 years, while Subtype B has easily circulated around the globe to infect minuscule population.

  13. HIV and Prostitution

    I read article several years ago about 500 female prostitutes in NYC and not a single one tested positive. Here’s an older one.

    http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/rrbprostitute.htm

    This can easily be explained. The reason very few female prostitutes get HIV is for several reasons. A big reason is their clientele. Most of them are fully heterosexual men, and very few straight men are carrying the virus, unless they’re IV drug addict or extremely unlucky. https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/07/17/for-men-how-to-catch-hiv-from-a-woman/

    Secondly, prostitutes practiced condom sex about 99.9% of the time. Far more responsible than your typical square woman.

    Thirdly, they rarely engage in anal sex, which is by far the most efficient route. https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/how-do-you-get-hiv-anyway/

    Example: A hooker has 500 Johns for the year. There’s a great chance that not a single client is even carrying HIV virus, since they are having sex with heterosexual men, who rarely carry the virus. You have to be exposed to someone carrying the virus to even get it.

    Let’s say 10 of those 500 are bisexual males/ IV drug abusers. Not every bisexual male or IV drug abuser is HIV positive. It’s about 20% for young gay males. Again, you have to be exposed to the virus.

    Now let’s say 2 or 3 of 500(high end) are carriers of the virus. Since prostitutes rarely engage in anal sex, probably 90%, and they use condoms virtually every time, (unless against their will), the chances of contracting HIV from protected vaginal sex is about 1 out of 50 million from one time visit.

    Hardly exposed because of clientele, plus protected vaginal sex, equals very, very low risk for prostitutes acquiring HIV, despite numerous sex partners.

  14. http://whale.to/a/scheff94.html

    AIDS in Africa is simply old diseases renamed AIDS. The same diseases that been killing Africans for eons.

  15. Spamby

    Robert, can you explain how Charlie Sheen got HIV?

  16. No idea. But none of the women he had sex with has HIV.

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