Papuan Barbarism

Waltem writes: Read Lawrence Keeley. “Savage” warfare (like say, in New Guinea) is proportionately more lethal than “civilized” warfare.

Correct. Primitive man leads a short, nasty and brutish existence. As recently as the 1300’s in England, the homicide rate in the larger cities was 50 times higher than it is today in the US. Fifty times higher. We think Latin America is out of control because it has a homicide rate 10X hours. Now imagine a society that is 5 times worse than Honduras. That was urban England in the 1300’s.  Whites were unbelievably barbarous not so long ago themselves. So what happened? How did the homicide rate decline by 98%? Did our genes change? Come on hereditarians, let’s dish it up.

Yes, the Papuans engage in warfare continuously. At least until recently, they habitually molested most if not all of the children, and the children were exposed to incredible violence. Childhood was a time of frequent  beatings from your parents and even your siblings. You probably witnessed your mother murdering one of your newborn on 2-3 year old siblings. You may have even participated because some Papuans force the children to murder their own three year old siblings as some sort of an object lesson. There’s no escaping it warfare and violence in these places.

And when Papuans are put into modern culture, the result has been a complete catastrophe. They cannot function at all in modern society, and Port Moresby is one of the most brutal, savage, barbarous, and out and out dangerous cities on Earth. Many of the Papuans there have formed vicious street gangs and the city has one of the highest rates of violent crime on Earth. Port Moresby is worse than most cities in Africa.

These people are simply not suited for modern society, at the moment anyway, because they are too backwards, barbarous, savage, uncivilized, brutish, incompetent and violent. That 64 IQ no doubt does not help matters. African Blacks were not in a very different place centuries ago  with 67 IQ’s, but centuries in America had a profoundly civilizing effect such that hundreds of years out of Africa, a Black today would probably regard his ancestors from the 1700’s as so brutish and vicious that he probably would not to have anything to do with him.

I suppose 25% White genes in modern Blacks didn’t hurt, but that alone cannot be all of the story. The story is one of acculturation and the civilizing of a profoundly backwards and barbarous race. It is actually incredible how different US Blacks are from those early anthropologists’ findings of Africa. You almost wonder if humans can actually change that much, but apparently they can. Not everyone can become civilized, but people can sure get a Hell of a lot more civilized than they were before. It might take centuries, but it can be done.

All of you hereditarians, how can you possibly explain the almost unheard of transformation of these barbarous Africans into modern Blacks? Their genes are the same. You guys say everything is genes. Fine, well how did these people change so much then?


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12 responses to “Papuan Barbarism

  1. Another William Playfair Web

    My uncle taught law as part of an exchange program in Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea.
    He apparently was not impressed by the students saying the Law students ‘were about the equivalent of an American Middle School students’
    the educational system was a failure, I guess.

  2. How close are the Papuans to Australian aborigines? Are they related to tribes of Sentinel island and the negritos of Southeast Asia?

  3. Stary Wylk

    Some of the difference between the 1300s and later is century after century of hangings taking many people out of the gene pool.

  4. Rowlii

    Is it possible that civilisation with :

    -jail (wich affect the fertility rate of inmates and,

    -death sentence (still on going in maning countries)

    selected “non-aggresive” genes ?

    • Onfd

      Sure, why not? A mean, also animals change their genes when they co-exist with people. Bears who are curious (and wander through inhabited localities) get shot. Those birds who are not smart/careful enough, hit windows and die. So I think all species including people try to (or are forced to) adapt to their environment/culture).

      We can debate about the scale of this selection, though.

    • Indeed, but it’s effectiveness depends on the rate of execution, the frequency of aggressive genes as well as their fertility.

    • Bert

      Peter Frost has suggested this. A similar theory of the evolutionary effects of civilisation has been put forward by Gregory Clark (‘A Farewell to Alms’).

      (BTW: Robert you’re an hereditarian yourself, since you believe in the importance of biological heritage. You’re setting up a strawman when claiming that anyone thinks that genes are all that matter.)

  5. Rowlii

    So sharia must be eugenic 😉

  6. RudyM

    This Papuan seems to be doing fine as a singer:

  7. Native Jayapura Papuan

    I really enjoy your articles especially on the topic of Asia Pacific regions. I’m half-Batak half-Native Papuan, from Indonesia. I’m glad that I was born in modern Indonesian Papua (although it is still far away compared to developed countries), I realized Papua Island is in sort of a crossroad between “black+oceanian” and “east asian” form of governing, ethnic, and cultural influence. A straight border on 141st meridian in Papua Island can decide a difference of living and moral standards between People of Sorong City/Jayapura City and Vanimo/Port Moresby City.

    Years ago, I was sort-of a young edgy pro-Papuan-independence until I learned some anthropology and history to be realized that there are more ethno-linguistic diversity exist in Papuans and even before Indonesian annexation and missionary missions, bloody wars exist and far more brutal including cannibalism.

    We should not forget the dark history about the Indonesian side of Papua, but why did modern West Papua has become far better than the PNG side?

    Backed by data, on world bank and government agencies, compare Indonesian Provinces of West Papua and Papua as they have higher GDP per capita, better education, better internet access, less crime rates. less murder rates (Indonesia have such a low murder rate), lower HIV rates, less obesity rates, higher literacy, higher health, live expectancy, higher intermarriage and less ethnic tensions etc. (source: BPS, CIA, World Bank)

    Infrastructure is booming in Indonesian Papua, Airports, Trans-papua road, Jayapura Holtekamp bridge, Skouw border post, etc. (source: KemenHub, Skyscrapercity)

    Native West Papuans are also educated to work on those infrastructure, given education to how to farm and sell better. Also don’t forget George Saa, a Papuan high school physics student educated by West Indonesians that win First Step to Nobel Prize in Physics and winning national competitions.

    As much as the Indonesian government during Soeharto era was very brutally genocidal, today it is a proof that race is real, different ethnicities needed different policies to improve and policies should be forced to end barbarism. Soeharto government ended Papuan Baliem Valley ritualized warfare and transform it into Baliem Valley competition Festival meanwhile educated a lot of Papuans including my father to Jakarta.

    These good news from Papua that I felt directly as a Papuan and majority of Papuans agree, we almost never heard of in mainstream western media which were maybe to afraid to be “Politically Correct” that their race oppression based propaganda and anti-meritocratic against white and east asian strategy.

    As Indonesia and its Papua growing faster, it will becoming better if they follow more secular meritocratic NE Asians policies and remove corruptions that somehow passed and considered as okay in their political conservative Islamic and religious stupidities.

    These East Asian people of Haplogroup O “Rice-Eaters” are certainly have a long great history of civilizations to learn from.

    There was an old Chinese saying.
    “It took China centuries to unite all the 56 ethnics. It took multiple unitary middle kingdoms to finally, although still have different customs, now they are proud to identify as one Chinese throughout the vast China, Sharing knowledge and Cultures to built one China”

    That maybe where the Indonesian strategy came from, Indonesia try to do ir faster by migrates a lot of people in hopes of intermarriages (that sort of resulted in me). Although the program has been defunct now.

    Okay this has become stupidly nationalistic but I must admit deeply that I’m glad that I will live in a country that have good socio-economic prospects and was part of a nation that has long history of civilizations (Srivijaya, Majapahit, Tarumanegara, Kutai etc) have its own tradtional writing systems, evolved arts and literacy.

    Not simply part of barbaric illiterate Papua New Guinean tribes. Just by dumb-luck my father’s ancestors once living inside the border behind the 141st meridian under the Dutch colonial rule.

    Compared to PNGians who still believed in cannibalism,ethnic tension, honor-wars, Jesus is black and part of crimes and Raskol Moresby gangs. Young Indonesian Papuans can have access to medium speed Internet today, as more books and articles posted online, including the latest by national library.

    It is a matter of whether these young people will use it to be open mind; read and learn things, and engage in east asians way of IQ challenging and natural selection societal structure, or just to become societal machines engulfed by social media and propagandas.

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