Introverts, Extroverts, Pure Introverts and Frustrated Extroverts

Gregory Chelli writes:

I think introverts generally have a lower social intelligence than extroverts.

Autistics are true introverts, they don’t like to be with others because they don’t understand them well. They are like naturally bad at maths people who don’t like maths as a result of their incapacity. There are probably no bad at maths people who fantasizing about equation and maths problems, as there are no autistics fantasizing about being in a conversation with people.

The frustrated extroverts or extroverted loners you are talking about are generally persons with high social intelligence who can’t fully use their gift in real life because of some emotional problem, like timidity for example. So, as you said, they end up created imaginary social situations in their mind to relax themselves. An analogy would be a math genius who is prevented to do maths for some reason, like being in jail. He would be thinking about imaginary maths problem most of the time without being able to do real math stuff on a blackboard or in a notebook.

There are probably true introverts with high social intelligence and true extroverts with low social intelligence. But these ones are exceptions. People generally like to do what they are good at.

NB: people with extremely high social intelligence may not be interested in people, because the general population would look autistic, and thus not interesting to them.

What do you think of this comment?

I suppose it depends on the definitions of introvert and extrovert. Supposedly 80% of the population are extroverts, whatever that word means. True introverts are only 20% of the population, whatever that word means. I suppose extroverts really like to be around people. Introverts like to be around people a little of the time but not a lot of the time. They need their space. I know introverts will talk at a dinner table for a bit and then retreat to their bedroom with a book. Or you will talk to them at a table for a bit, but then they want to stop talking and read the paper.

Introverts absolutely do not sit around fantasizing about being around people all the time when they are alone. Forget it. And anyone who does that is not an introvert. Forget it. They’re just not. Normies would probably insist that this person is an introvert or a “loner” just because they are alone all the time. But Normies are retarded.

I would say that just because you are alone all the time doesn’t mean you are a loner! How about that?

Now we need to define the word loner. Normie retards say that loners are people who are alone all the time, but that’s not the definition of a loner. A true loner or real loner is someone who really has need or use for other people and simply prefers to be alone all the time because that is what makes them happy. If they are forced to be around people, they probably try to leave after a while because they start to feel uncomfortable.

If you are alone all the time but you don’t enjoy it or you hate it and you dream of being around people, you are not a real loner. Really you are not a loner at all. We might call you a “fake loner.” In this case, we are looking at the difference between real loners and fake loners.

I think introverts like being alone, but they don’t want to be alone all the time, although there are some who do.

I do not think shy people are necessarily introverts. Nor are social phobics for that matter. Normies say they are, but Normies are idiots. For instance a shy person who does not really like to be alone a lot but ends up being alone due to shyness is not an introvert. Forget it. Especially so if the shy person is fantasizing about being around people all the time.

I would gather that that person has probably not been shy their whole lives. Perhaps there was a time when they mingled with people much easier, but then something happened to them, and they turned shy. The reason they are fantasizing being around people all the time is because at one point in their life, they were doing this, it was going well, and they were having a lot of fun. In other words, they want the old times back again.

Or perhaps they may have an anxiety disorder. Quite a few extroverts develop anxiety disorders. If a person develops an anxiety disorder, it doesn’t really matter how good their social skills are because they will not be able to use them well. They may well know all the rules and have all the skills, but when the anxiety comes out, it’s all for naught because 100% of the people around them are going to reject them in one way or another. They may well even be extroverts who like the idea of being around people, but the anxiety kills off all the fun by making everyone reject them and makes being around people a great big drag. Eventually they might just stop trying.

Normie idiots think only introverts get anxiety disorders, but that’s just not so. I have even heard of cases where wild, hypersocial, life of the party types in their teens developed social phobia at age 18 to the point of hardly being able to leave their houses. There has been no actual personality change here, and true personality change is not common anyway. The person has simply become ill. Theoretically, if you could cure that illness, the shyness would go away, and they would be their old hypersocial selves again because that is who they are deep down inside.

I do not believe that the deep down inside person really changes in most cases. Normie morons insist, “Anyone can change their personality,” but that’s just wrong. You are what you are. Your personality is your personality. You’re stuck with it. Get used to it. It’s yours. All yours. That said, no one is stuck with a lousy personality.

One theory is that there are good and bad sides to all personality types. The good side of Antisocial personality is Aggressive Personality. The good side of Narcissistic Personality is Confident Personality. The good side of Borderline Personality is Sensitive Personality. I believe the good side of Dependent Personality is Devoted Personality, and the good side of Paranoid Personality is Cautious Personality.

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8 responses to “Introverts, Extroverts, Pure Introverts and Frustrated Extroverts

  1. James Schipper

    Dear Robert

    Human beings are fastidious social animals. Very few of us can be alone all the time, but at the same time, we are guided by the principle that birds of a feather flock together. If most of the birds around us have different feathers, we may prefer to be alone rather than to associate with them. As the Spanish say, mejor solo que mal acompañado. Some people have very little social contact only because they find it hard to meet kindred spirits. The saddest cases are those of people who are sociable by nature but who, for one reason or another, turn off most people.

    Regards. James

  2. Introvert

    I must be the ultimate introvert. I’ve gone months at a time without talking to anyone and was perfectly okay with it. I get the impression that normies would begin to suffer something akin to physical pain after one day of living like that.

    The only human interaction I really desire is sexual and romantic. Just a cute girl to fuck, cuddle with, and keep each other company. Maybe see my parents once in a while. But that’s it.

    • Do you fantasize about being with others when you are alone? I always do. I must be a frustrated extrovert, but I also have some introverted qualities.

      • introvert

        I’ll sometimes reminisce about childhood friendships. Staying up all night playing video games with the guys. 3-on-3 pickup basketball. Doing impressions of teachers. Not a care in the world. Life can never be like that again though, so I don’t dwell on it.

        • Do you ever wish you were with people when you are alone? I often do. If I am driving alone, I wish there was a passenger next to me. Home alone, I wish there were people around. Sleeping, I wish there was someone in my bed. Sometimes I will conjure up a fantasy companion or companions to be next to me or with me. They aren’t there, but they are sort of there in a fantasized pretend way, if you catch my drift. They are sort of “ghosts.”

    • Introvert

      I often fantasize about having a cute girl next to me in bed. But aside from that? No, never. I always prefer being alone.

  3. Jason Y

    I don’t always enjoy being alone. Sometimes I would enjoy being around men who have the same hobbies I do. No, not in a gay way, but more like, I don’t know, playing basketball on the weekend etc.. thing. Straight guys generally don’t like being around women unless they are screwing them or are married to them. Frankly women can be boring because their conversation and life is boring.

  4. Great article. I enjoyed reading it as I am currently struggling with this … what I call the “introvert-extrovert conundrum.”

    I recently realized that I get along superbly well in social situations with introverts who can discuss openly with me their introversion. I peg them as “self-aware introverts.” And I have started exploring this theory last week, i.e. bringing up the introvert-extrovert spectrum in a conversation as early as possible when I meet someone new. So far, I find it very fulfilling, especially when they are willing to also explore this “introvert-extrovert conundrum” with me. I will end up having a blast with these people.

    People I peg as “not self-aware introverts” will likely deny their introversion and shut down immediately or give one-word answers. They cannot explain themselves why that happens either. Then the tumble weed rolls in… a distant eagle screeches. The awkward silence sets in. Being an extrovert, I have a hard time dealing with this scenario. But a lot of “self-aware introverts” tell me that that’s okay because they do not know how to respond and are afraid of saying the wrong thing. A lot of them feel that they have committed a social faux pas and do not know how to rescue themselves.

    I enjoy being alone some time. But after about an hour, maximum 3 hours of being by myself, I get very depressed and tired. I will then crave human connection. Even when I am busy with things like writing my blog or doing laundry. I recently started blogging about my frustrations as an extrovert… enjoy doing that but it is very draining for me mentally.

    “There are good and bad sides to all personality types” … just curious what you, and the others, think the good sides are for Introverts and Extroverts.

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