Afrocentrist Idiot of the Day

I get comments like this all the time. Like just about every week. I delete all of them now because I am tired of banning people in public. To tell the truth, I ban people every single day on here! Every day, someone comes in the door swinging, so to speak.

This was substantially cleaned up of punctuation errors, of which there were many. All of these Afrocentrists write poorly. None of these idiots can punctuate or spell correctly. It’s pitiful that they talk about how superior they are when they can’t even write a proper English sentence. I think of all the ethnic nationalists out there, the Afrocentrists are some of the most retarded of them all.

Afrocentrists are dumb.

LOL.

You sound extremely one sided about this topic and a little racist. If you learned about TRUE Black history, we did NOT come from Africa. We populated the entire world before Europeans (cavemen) systematically over time, pillaged, stole, killed, and destroyed millions of people and stripped them of their culture. God is a Black man with woolly hair and skin of bronze. We swear more because our skin is adapted to the sun.

People of European decent (White people) were originally from the caucus mountains in Europe, and they stayed in the caves to avoid the sun. That’s why present-day cavemen have to lather themselves in butter and sunblock to keep from burning like toast and peeling like bananas (:. Black skin is in because the elements don’t burn us like it does vampires and people that are similar to vampires (:.

PS – if you don’t believe me, look it up for yourselves. (:

PPS – Brown/Black/Red/Yellow people are all Black. Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Iranians, etc.

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196 responses to “Afrocentrist Idiot of the Day

  1. The negroid IQ is a matter of fact. There maybe 1/2 wise/smart negro out there, but inclination is, avarage negro is supposed to be such retarded……a nation full of 100% negro will always be a 100% failure

    • jorge

      “Average negro is supposed to be such retarded”.

      Well, apparently you are the same shit but into a white body.

  2. Who was this commenter, sound like N. from that IQ article.

  3. Gay State Girl

    You made my day!

  4. Another William Playfair Web

    Nationalist ranking by intellect/what theories they produce (completley non-Empirical, here);
    1. Regular non-“Fire-breathing” White Supremacists.
    2. Afrocentrists
    3. La Raza types
    4. Nordicists/”Fire breathing” White supremacists.
    5. The Trumpkins/Ann Coulter types who truly believe they are not nationalists/racists.

  5. Tulio

    No worse than anything coming out of Epgah’s mouth.

    • Jason Y

      You sure got that right.😆

    • Another William Playfair Web

      “Any day now, there will be no Whites left, anywhere, Bum (sic) is going to round up all White people!”
      (questioned on sources)
      cites- opinion piece on White genocide from Breitbart
      or
      “My cousin’s friend’s niece’s husband was robbed and beaten by a Black guy, and the cops did nothing! “(proves a world-wide genocide conspiracy!)

    • Another William Playfair Web

      he never denied that Palestinians are Nordics…………….

  6. Tony Swagger

    “God is a Black man with woolly hair and skin of bronze. ”

    Sounds like real nigga. Negro fantasies at its funniest best…

    • Gay State Girl

      Love it!

    • Bronze skin by living in the middle east is far from unique, which was rather the point seeing how Jesus was made out as being not that distinct among men in Appearance.

      With that said, however, the hair was said to be white LIKE wool, not in texture. That on the other hand seems weird, and I suspect what that meant that he may just have a particularly lighter hair color.

      • Jason Y

        Ok phil. Trying to be the bible expert? Sources?

        This thing seems like another case where we really don’t know and people are just posting biased opinions.

        • http://biblehub.com/revelation/1-14.htm

          Second of all, what are you huffy about. All I was doing commenting on often misguided views of Jesus Description in the bible by Paul.

          For instance, confusing the simile of wool for his hair for the texture and not the Pigment and the noting of Bronze skin as if Blacks are the only ones with such a hue. Anyways, the skin was said to be bronze specifically on his feet anyways.
          Also, there are interpretations of him looking common by those who read the text

          http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christiancrier/2013/12/12/what-did-jesus-really-look-like-a-look-at-the-bible-facts/

          Even then, I’m not asserting what he looked like, I’m correcting non-conventional interpretations.

        • Jason Y

          How do you know your bible link isn’t biased, or is just spouting one of many opinions?

          Heck, I remember finding a bible book in my home from the 1960s which actually claimed blacks were under the curse of ham, seriously. It was book printed out of Nashville Tennessee.

        • Because nothing indicated so outside of typical moderate Christian tones, which is to be expected, also they actually use common Quotes such as Paul’s “wool and bronze” Quote and Isaiah’s “common man” quote.

          Exactly why is this an issue? All I was doing was pointing out the Afrocentrist’s distortions which are refuted by

          A.) Bronze skin isn’t unique in the Middle East, in which goes in line a “common” man appearance for Jesus interpreted by Isaiah’s quote which described him as not possessing distinguished Beauty

          B.) Wool was used as a comparison clearly in the form of pigment and NOT texture.

          What do you have issue with? All I was pointing out is that Jesus wasn’t black based merely on those quotes.

  7. Jason Y

    A lot of afrocentrism is a reaction to white chauvanism. Sorry to spoil everyone on here’s white racist party, but it’s the truth. All this black power stuff is just a big middle finger, but it’s very understandable.

    • Okay, lets compare.

      White Nationalism- Not perfect, misguide widely, yet focuses on unreported cases involving disproportionate crime by minorities and etc.

      Afrocentrism- Lying about History and complaining about racism towards Blacks in the 21th century as if nothing ever changed.

      Jason, I understand Afrocentrism a little better than you and your gaslighting.

    • Also, their a difference between “Black Power” and this type of Afrocentrism”.

      Typically “Black power” make claims regarding Egyptians and Jesus but aside from that they focus more on political topics.

      This stuff typical claims that other races are albinos that stole their civilizations and that they are truly the master race.

    • Jason Y

      Phil, ep-gah’s white-washing account of history is as ridiculous as Afrocentricsm, and yes, it’s a white middle finger to the so called liberal elite and Jews they claim are putting them down.

      • But considering how most of the world’s innovations are indeed white in origin, it’s still closer to the truth than Afrocentrism.

        So no, while flawed, it’s is not comparable to the idiocy of Afrocentrism, which is mounted on delusion and arrogance while white Nationalism actually does point out at least some legit issues in society.

        I’m not saying their process in regards to handling it are efficient or consistently justifiable, but what you;’re stating is a false equivalence nonetheless.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          That’s true Phil, at least in the “common era” (of course if you go back to prior to the year 1, when C.E. started and into the B.C.E. area, the only Europeans thriving were doing so with strong Middle-Eastern influence).

          However, as pumpkinperson once explained the accuracy of a belief or ideology is not correlated with IQ. Whether somewhat right or not WNs are less intelligent than the median White, or have a negative z score, because some degree of the historical acheivments of Whites, is obvious (and of course some inability to quell Ethnic Genetic Interest urges), while Afro-Centrists, don’t have the facts on their side as much, so they have to be creative

        • While somewhat creative, it’s propaganda nonetheless.

          Some AC’s do appear smart in ability to argue yet what holds them back is their info’s inaccuracy.

          I realized this when i was talking to one on my first article here on this blog, but he wouldn’t listen

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/a-look-at-precontact-igbo-society/#comment-243561

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Well, Gulliver is creatively using the notion that we all came from Africa, and turning that on it’s head, and then saying, North Africans, Middle Easterners, are Black.

          In fairness to him, at least he can write a few lines without saying “Neanderthal” (the equivalent of “savage”) unlike a certain unnamed WN on this blog………..

          I also have heard that many American Afro-Centrists, wanted to fight for the Americo-Liberian elite during the Liberian Civil War, for they resented the indigenous inhabitants of Liberia, for ‘Selling Black Americans’ ancestors into slavery’
          They certainly do have the capacity, for coherent, complex, and intriguing ideology.

        • Where they really Afrocentrists or those of “black power”, because admitting that would be contradictory to their usual doctrine of them being enslaved by whites.

          The thing is though is that he still treats whites differently calling them “albinos” which is very fucked up considering the persecution African Albinos get in Africa. As well, he still goes into fantastical BS on history still framing whites as an evil entity.

          While creative, I still put them worst.

    • Jason Y

      quote by phil

      Okay, lets compare.

      White Nationalism- Not perfect, misguide widely, yet focuses on unreported cases involving disproportionate crime by minorities and etc.

      Afrocentrism- Lying about History and complaining about racism towards Blacks in the 21th century as if nothing ever changed.

      Jason, I understand Afrocentrism a little better than you and your gaslighting.

      WN thinking is less crazy than afrocentric behavior or my comments?

      Check out Hitler plan for the slavic race. Of course, WNs in the power in the US would do the same to NAMs using Hitler’s logic about slavs (Look at the Turner Diaries)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Slavic_sentiment

  8. Jason Y

    This was substantially cleaned up of punctuation errors, of which there were many. All of these Afrocentrists write poorly. None of these idiots can punctuate or spell correctly. It’s pitiful that they talk about how superior they are when they can’t even write a proper English sentence. I think of all the ethnic nationalists out there, the Afrocentrists are some of the most retarded of them all.

    Oddly enough this white Republican guy on this one forum posted with the worst spelling and grammar imaginable, and when you criticized his writing he’s make it seem like you were some wine sipping liberal elitist.

    Apparently the guy wasn’t college educated and was simply some guy who owned his own business. Well, the high school must have not been that good.

    • Jason Y

      he’s make it seem like you

      Something is wrong with this keyboard, really, LOL Now on, I will proofread.

  9. Jason Y

    Myself, I like reggae music and some types of black power. However, I think the root of a lot of it though is racism. It’s just racism in the reverse direction.

    In addition, I don’t think weed is a blessing from God. All it’s done in Jamaica is made the Rastafarians really lazy bums with only one good use, which is they can play pretty good music. It is good music though, so there is a philosophical debate right there.

    Should life be all about music and just FTW as far as everything else goes? Isn’t that what the hippies were all about?

  10. SHI

    Robert, did you happen to check Dr. David Duke’s (lol) famous travelogue about India “My Awakening:My Indian Odyssey: A Ghost from India Haunts Me Still”. The famous Klansman travelled to India in 1971 when the country was poorer than it’s today. It enjoys cult status among the Stormfront crowd/Donald Trump supporters.

    http://mail.blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/obama/chapter29.html

    Do you agree with Dr. David Duke about his observations of India? I love listening to the audiocast. Here David Duke explains how India introduced him to a lifelong dedication to white nationalism.

    To the plaudits of the media, the Pariahs — the Untouchables — are slowly replacing the Brahmin of America and the entire Western world. The hideous skeletal girl in that prophetic setting of that Indian temple was my glimpse of the future of the Western world. If that bleak future is to be avoided, it will require each person who understands the racial truth to act with resolve and a sense of urgency.

    The nation of India, like most of the Third World, has already passed the point of no return. She cannot feed or otherwise adequately take care of herself, not even with repeated injections of Western capital, aid, and technology. The huge populace of modern-day India cannot sustain the level of culture and economic well-being that its high-caste forebears created.

    It is not, however, too late for America and the West. No matter how dark our destiny may appear, there is enough genetic treasure among our people to fashion a road to the stars. Those who know the racial truth often excuse their inaction by expressing pessimism. Suggesting that “the battle is already lost” is often simply an excuse for cowardice. Our race’s struggle for survival and evolutionary advancement became the meaning of my life when I looked into that little Indian girl’s forlorn face, for I then knew exactly what I must do. Prospects of victory or defeat became irrelevant to my responsibility and my honor. I resolved to live my life in the original meaning of the term Aryan, a noble life of dedication to my people. My life from that moment onward has been in the service of my people and the Promethean task ahead. I became determined that my life would be about awakening the Aryan inside of every European.

    When I grow weary in this battle and I find my character smeared or my personal life attacked, that girl’s gaunt face is there to haunt me, to drive me onward. When my personal safety — or that of my loved ones — is threatened, that girl’s pleading countenance is there to remind me, in the most graphic terms what failure would mean for our progeny. I learned that it was my responsibility to do all that I could for the survival of my heritage. In the crisis our race now faces, all of us who know the truth must carry that same personal responsibility, and with it the understanding that any individual danger or suffering must be endured when the fate of our whole people is at stake. Such was the altruism that brought our forebears through the crucible of the ice ages of prehistoric Europe, and now we must draw from that genetically imprinted trait as we stand on the brink of being inundated by the masses of the Third World.

    Before my journey to India, the racial ideals that I believed in were abstract concepts and principles. In the moment I saw that emaciated child in the ruins, all my ideas were dramatically transformed into the reality of flesh and blood. I finally realized that my cause is different than that of an athletic contest, business competition, winning of an election, or even struggling for an important new scientific discovery. It is not about being right or wrong about ideas, but about the very essence of life itself — the natural laws that provide its beauty, character, and meaning. Seeing the child in the temple changed an intellectual commitment into a holy obligation.

    A passage from the Bhagavad Gita comes to mind:

    Likewise having regard for duty to your caste
    You should not tremble;
    For in a warrior, there exists no better thing than
    A fight required of duty (Chapter 2, Verse 30)

    I realized that day, in the scorching Indian sun outside that ruined temple that I had to adopt the spirit of an Aryan warrior who understood the current struggle of our race transcends the centuries. Selfish pursuits seemed trivial, and my life became interwoven with the Cause, a Cause that I knew I could not abandon.

    Through years of heartbreak and hardship, physical weariness and character assassination — but also in the exhilarating moments of success and acclaim — my heart has remained true.

    The flame that ignited in me on that hot August day in India in 1971 is still white hot and imperishable.

    It was at that point that I realized who I am. I am an Aryan — a word that has evolved through the centuries to denote those of our race who are racially aware and racially committed. Before I saw that half-breed little girl in the ruins, I was a racially conscious White person. Afterward I was a White person who had become completely committed to the preservation and evolutionary advancement of his people. Not only was I awakened to the truths of race, I was awakened to the sacred purpose of all those who came before us, and those who will follow us in the unbroken spiral toward the heavens. I had become an Aryan.

    There’s also an audiocast available (Chapter 31) if someone’s interested.

    https://theendofzion.com/2016/01/30/my-awakening-by-david-duke-book-and-audiobook/

    • Jason Y

      Such bullshit racist generalizations. You can just as easily find hideous white trash in Appalachia. Many are on meth and pain pills. No skeletons but a lot of missing teeth. People as white as the snowy Alps.

      Notice these WNs look for the most sickly and sad types of people they hate as poster people. Kind of like how some liberal asshole might make the biggest meth-head in Tennessee as an example of lower working class white people.

    • Jason Y

      And of course, Duke like most right wingers never considers the environment even at a 1 percent level. I’m sure that massively distorts his 1971 view of India.

      • Jason Y

        Notice as we see with the elite in Latin America, India, and even in the USA to smaller extent, how they don’t do jack shit to help the poor, but let them rot, and then blame them for being poor cause of bad genetics (or in the case of Republicans calling them lazy good for nothing cretins etc..)

    • Jason Y

      Notice David Duke comments that Indians say the greatest insult in India is to be black, which obviously he thinks himself. Now on YouTube he tries to act like that all races are beautiful, but should be seperate. What a load of two faced lies.

      • Gay State Girl

        That’s my main problem with WN. They adopt the black nationalist talking points that blacks would’ve better off under black sovereignty, but then they turn around and gloat about poverty, epidemic, and ethnic strife in black majority countries.

        • Jason Y

          Right, given thier logic the should just advocate killing all blacks. Anyhow, if you do send them to africa, then a surprise awaits. Africa’s population is rapidly growing. In other words, they’ll simply come back at some point. It’s kind of like that 19th century fear that China would keep growing until the point they would literally invade the west.

        • Jason Y

          Perhaps segregated areas in the past USA did have some advantages along with disadvantages. However, looking at Africa, we see that black run nations are a total ruin.

          I’m thinking segregated areas in the past USA did have some finer points, but only because even though there was segregation, they still had some interaction with whites, considering they lived in basically a white nation.

        • Gay State Girl

          Some black leaders with separatist leanings have suggested that the destruction of the black family as well as other issues coincided with integration. But who knows. I support and respect pEaceful black nationalism for those who desire it.

        • Jason Y

          No, actually it had nothing to do with integration, but rather the whole society just gave way to sex, drugs, and rock and roll.

        • Jason Y

          black, white, everything just became more free in the 60s. How can MLK’s dream work if everyone is doing highly addictive, expensive drugs?

        • Jason Y

          The 60s cultural idea while very good and in a lot of ways pro-black nationalism eventually gave way to hedonism in the70s and 80s. Crack cocaine practically destroyed black communities, but it didn’t have the same effect on the overall larger white community because it had more wealth. However, later the poor white community became plagued with meth, pain pills etc..

          How did any of this have to do with Jim Crow? Nothing.

        • Jason Y

          Some black leaders with separatist leanings have suggested that the destruction of the black family as well as other issues coincided with integration. But who knows. I support and respect pEaceful black nationalism for those who desire it.

          In the US, most of it is an excuse for racism and bigotry, coming from the black side fo things. Grouchy old black guys who hate white people latch on to this stuff. Possibly the motive is jealousy and who knows what else. Prison possibly indoctrinates younger men into this stuff.

          Bottom line you don’t need hate to practice family values. Any old church teaches good things for blacks or anyone. I don’t think the motive of racists is of love, but is of being vengeful, and blaming others for your problems (even though there is the fake sense that hate groups are teaching responsiblity or family values).

        • Jason Y

          I really hate non-white nationalists. They’re as annoying and mean as the WNs. I don’t understand why there is all this Malcolm X worship. Of course, I do understand why blacks would want to grow afros and be proud of who they are etc..

          But the non-racist black panthers did the same. Also, what is the point of changing names to all these Arabic sounding crap. OK, african is fine, but I see no connection between the Arab world, one that ironically enslaved blacks in a more cruel fashion then whites, and African Americans.

        • Gay State Girl

          When I said I support moderate non radical black nationalism, I was referring to blacks running their own institutions as Native Americans are free to run their reservations as they wish. It’s easier for blacks to discipline their own youth without being excused to racism.

          I agree with your point about Malcolm X and Islamophilia, especially as the Arab world (most notably Saudi Arabia) was still enslaving Africans long after it had been abolished in America…

        • Jason Y

          That’s interesting, cause Native Americans haven’t done shit. If anyone needs integration it’s them. The only thing positive they’ve done, but I’m not sure if it benefits the whole tribe, is casinos.

        • Jason Y

          Segregation hasn’t gotten a lot of Native Americans off the booze, case in point.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          The key difference and perhaps an indicator of intellect is that the Black Nationalists aren’t being trolled. I have full confidence Elijah Muhammad, etc., Louis Farrakhan, actually believe what they are preaching. The Alt-Right leaders don’t.

          https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ann-coulter-is-a-human-being

          “Coulter jokes that ‘Immigrants are stealing lesbians’ jobs'” with her gay male friends at a LA Mexican restaurant. She’s playing these fuckwits for suckers as Trump is. Louis Farrakhan doesn’t do that. Jeremiah Wright has a more coherent ideology than some of these Nordicist/pagan types. Really? The Nordics only sacked Rome because Roman blood was being polluted with “non-White blood” as the Daily Stormer proports? Wright is more reasonable.

        • Jason Y

          Wright isn’t a black racist. He’s a liberation theologian.

        • Jason Y

          The Nordics only sacked Rome because Roman blood was being polluted with “non-White blood” as the Daily Stormer proports?

          That destroys a lot of credibility. If they said that, how can you trust anything else they say?

          Possibly the Nordics sacked Rome because the empire over-expanded as the US is doing now.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          My god, Jason! Have you ever listened to Fox News?!?!?!? Read Breitbart or EPGAH’s comments?!?!?!?!? Are you an American? Are you a White, Hispanic, or Asian American? I doubt it. Jeremiah Wright is in the Black Panthers. His title isn’t Reverend- it’s “Imam”

        • Jason Y

          Black panthers aren’t racist. They’re communist. Sure they seem racist to some, but a lot of that stuff is just a reaction to what they see as oppression. Black muslims on the other hand, are actual racists.

        • The connection with the Arabic world was because many Blacks were from Muslim influenced tribes like Mandinkas, making up a significant portion of southern Blacks in particular.

          So technically, it is cultural.

        • Malcolm X (I think you actually mean NOI) and Black Panthers are two different entities. Black Panthers were more US black centered with Pride, NOI was more centered on Black roots itself and organization.

          Malcom X however became different from the traditional NOI stuff like Elijah or Louis and eventually broke off into more moderate views.

          My mother lived in New York in the 60s and lived near Black Muslims. They were cultish to a degree but they weren’t degenerates nor did they tolerate petty criminal behavior. With that said, their race doctrine is ridiculous.

  11. Dave Mowers

    Since I am well known for commenting on this subject matter I will add a condensed world history of the Caucasians…

    Caucasians have DNA from three separate hominid species. This, is a fact -proven genetically. Caucasians are therefore the most ancient evolutionary branch of humans as they obviously lived as far back as the first hominid branching IE; they interbred with Mesolithic hominids.

    Note; Humans have no idea what the rate of evolution is, how fast or slow it happens but modern day genetics prove that a single gene over several generations can alter an entire organism. We have never seen how long or fast this occurs in humans.

    The obvious conclusion? Caucasians are ancient man and having come from the north they most likely survived the Younger Dryas mini-Ice Age.

    If you live in caves and hunt at night you get vitamin deficiencies that cause; white skin, light hair, blue and green eyes…if you breed with Neanderthals you get a specific trait ONLY FOUND in Neanderthals; red hair.

    “Man,” did not come out of Africa, he invaded it.

    If you look at the historical figures who started the, “Out of Africa,” hypothesis you will find that they picked Africa to study early hominids simply because the continent is shaped like a human skull. That is why there is more research from Africa making Africa appear to be an origin but today they are finding much older hominid skeletons in higher frequency than Africa all over the globe.

    There are nine genes that separate humans from chimpanzees which means that nine separate hominid species interbred.

    These are facts, you can Google them.

    • “Caucasians have DNA from three separate hominid species. This, is a fact -proven genetically. Caucasians are therefore the most ancient evolutionary branch of humans as they obviously lived as far back as the first hominid branching IE; they interbred with Mesolithic hominids.”

      Actually all info reads that modern Caucasian just have Neanderthal Admixture, can you provide a source for your claim? I’ve read of Denisovan DNA in Basque, but overall it is low for Europeans.

      Even then, all that proves that they mixed with them.

      http://dnaconsultants.com/denisovan-gene

      “Note; Humans have no idea what the rate of evolution is, how fast or slow it happens but modern day genetics prove that a single gene over several generations can alter an entire organism. We have never seen how long or fast this occurs in humans.”

      Their is no “constant rate” with evolution, it varies depending on the various factors with the environment a population lives in a characteristic of the population itself.

      “The obvious conclusion? Caucasians are ancient man and having come from the north they most likely survived the Younger Dryas mini-Ice Age.”

      What is this suppose to mean?

      “If you live in caves and hunt at night you get vitamin deficiencies that cause; white skin, light hair, blue and green eyes…if you breed with Neanderthals you get a specific trait ONLY FOUND in Neanderthals; red hair.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#Genetics

      “A DNA study has concluded that some Neanderthals also had red hair, although the mutation responsible for this differs from that which causes red hair in modern humans.[35]”

      “Man,” did not come out of Africa, he invaded it.

      “If you look at the historical figures who started the, “Out of Africa,” hypothesis you will find that they picked Africa to study early hominids simply because the continent is shaped like a human skull. That is why there is more research from Africa making Africa appear to be an origin but today they are finding much older hominid skeletons in higher frequency than Africa all over the globe.”

      The oldest member of the Homo Branch is believed to be Homo Nadeli in South Africa. Also, Homo species of course have been expanding from their homeland since H. erectus.

      I’ll admit that the homeland for H. Sapiens is sketchy, but you’re interpretation isn’t clear or comprehensive enough to be taken seriously.

      Also, given that the term hominids refers to archaic humans as well, it’s not simply that what place has the oldest “hominids” (with Nadeli technically still Africa” but rather which has the oldest Modern Human, which I believe is between Northeast Africa or Arabia.

      • Dave Mowers

        From your own Wiki entry;

        “A DNA study has concluded that some Neanderthals also had red hair, although the mutation responsible for this differs from that which causes red hair in modern humans.”

        The oldest known hominid species found to date was found in Asia;

        “The ancient fossil site of Renzidong (Renzi Cave) in Anhui Province, eastern China, is yielding animal bones and possible stone tools showing that Homo erectus may have established itself here 2.25 million years ago, more than 400,000 years earlier than previously thought.”

        http://archive.archaeology.org/0001/newsbriefs/china.html

        What is the difference between research in Africa by Western scholars and research in Asia?

        Oh, about 2,000 years or so of time.

    • “There are nine genes that separate humans from chimpanzees which means that nine separate hominid species interbred.”

      What led you to that interpretation? All that means is that they independently developed genes that splits them from us from a single ancestor.

    • Actually the “genes” that separates humans and chimps are inversions

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15820305

      Another example of how we split through independent mutations.

      http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/07/19/the-mystery-of-the-missing-chromosome-with-a-special-guest-appearance-from-facebook-creationists/#.V0NkaBMrLnA

      Basically, two chromosomes fused together.

      • Dave Mowers

        We have no idea what form evolution takes or how to classify it as there are no modern examples of evolutionary changes in real time.

        Scientists can make up whatever name they need to support their conclusions but it is an admitted fact that they are running on assumptions which are guesses.

        • “We have no idea what form evolution takes or how to classify it as there are no modern examples of evolutionary changes in real time.”

          Uuuummm….natural selection accumulated? That basically the miniscule process in which evolution takes place, something that can be observed today. We have been manipulating genes of species for thousands of years through domestciation, AKA selective breeding for animals as well as being able to observe how this process can affect humans of different environments.
          NOW we can manipulate the genes of organism with actual molecular biology, like the inversion article I gave you.

          “Scientists can make up whatever name they need to support their conclusions but it is an admitted fact that they are running on assumptions which are guesses.”
          It seems you’re running on creationist arguments now. I could go into detail of the scientific method (basic as shit)
          http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/project_scientific_method.shtml

          Or I could even give you an example of what we actually do know on evolution and genetics.

          http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

          But I’m just going to point out the obvious that if this is you’re argument, that the scientific community is too arbitrary, then that would make the studies YOU gave me worthless on your end.

        • Actually the article on inversions was more of observing rather than manipulating.

        • Dave Mowers

          Natural selection only shows us expressions of genes not the process that mutated them.

        • Mutation are caused by enzymes’ margin of error in perfectily replicating Dna, thus making a new sequence for a trait as well as external forces.

          http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_20

          They are also caused by Chromosomes crossing over.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosomal_crossover

        • Factors that go into number and types of mutations for organism varies by environment (in both creation and frequency of certain type adaptive), population (probability of significant mutations increase with population size), etc.

        • Dave Mowers

          So once again you are describing a process that has never been seen to take place in humans which was my original point; evolution has not been recreated. Mutation, modification perhaps but not complete genetic change that affects an entire organism altering it’s species.

        • “So once again you are describing a process that has never been seen to take place in humans which was my original point; evolution has not been recreated. Mutation, modification perhaps but not complete genetic change that affects an entire organism altering it’s species.”

          http://www.unz.com/gnxp/the-2000-year-selection-of-the-british/

          Here’s one of many studies that observe human genomes.

          It’s not impossible, but it just requires certain types of strategies to build the picture.

          It is admittedly not completely understood, but it’s more than just “guesses” and “assumptions” that drives scientific assertions.

        • http://www.unz.com/pfrost/polygyny-makes-men-bigger-tougher-and-meaner/

          This article, while debatable in it’s assertions, goes with an example of the compare and contrast method with human popualtions, going into possibilities in differences.

          Also, you’re comment said

          “We have no idea what form evolution takes or how to classify it as there are no modern examples of evolutionary changes in real time.”

          In other words you were not speaking in particular on human evolution, and even if that’s the case what makes Humans so exceptional if we can observe the same in animals?

          It’s not that there exist monoliths of “humans vs. everything else” in a discrete fashion, other non-human living things have their own respective differences between each other so finding those properties in humans is only limited by how data would be accumulated.

          http://www.livescience.com/46300-chimpanzee-evolution-dna-mutations.html

          Again, compare and contrast.

        • The case in which you were speaking about humans in particular was in you’re first comment but the issue there was that you replied towards my post on chromosomes between humans and chimps saying “evolution” in general and not specifically humans. You then didn’t specify and then went on explaining how natural selection doesn’t explain mutations.

          Now that i have you went back to you’re first statement on evolution being vague with humans, however you didn’t specify as in vague in what way.

          In terms of “root” populations, identification of certain genes, etc. that is somewhat vague but the mechanics of how human evolution works isn’t as arbitrary as you make it out to be.

          http://www.unz.com/gnxp/human-evolutionary-history-as-a-cryptic-tangle/

        • Dave Mowers

          You go over and over and over but it doesn’t address my assertion that what “we” are is an evolved interbred hominid and that Caucasians are simply an older version carrying genes expressed that have not yet been suppressed by evolution because the scale is too short or the corollary because they are dominant.

          Put it another way; every ancient source of testimony to the original inhabitants of Mesopotamia and Europe attests to these peoples either living in caves or being nomadic.

          It also claims that these peoples were larger in stature, highly advanced and barbaric in nature.

          Neanderthal… an evolutionary offshoot separated from homo sapien by an Ice Age or multiple ones which is exactly what the historical accounts claim.

        • “You go over and over and over but it doesn’t address my assertion that what “we” are is an evolved interbred hominid and that Caucasians are simply an older version carrying genes expressed that have not yet been suppressed by evolution because the scale is too short or the corollary because they are dominant.”

          First of, if you wanted me to address your assertion again that should’ve been in the comments that you gave me earlier

          Second, the problem is that Caucasians are not the only ones that possess “older genes” (Neanderthals). Africans contain archaic genes as well as it’s been shown to be through mixture just like Europeans.

          Does this proves OOA, not necessarily but it does show that admixture leads to false conclusions we if interpreted your way. Hell, African’s retain more of it.

          http://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2012/02/encounters-between-modern-humans-and.html
          And
          http://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2010/05/archaic-admixture-in-africans.html

          Also, Neanderthal genes have been decreasing over time
          http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2016/05/neandertal-ancestry-going-going-gone.html
          “Put it another way; every ancient source of testimony to the original inhabitants of Mesopotamia and Europe attests to these peoples either living in caves or being nomadic.

          It also claims that these peoples were larger in stature, highly advanced and barbaric in nature.

          Neanderthal… an evolutionary offshoot separated from homo sapien by an Ice Age or multiple ones which is exactly what the historical accounts claim.”

          Problem

          A.) how this is limited to populations that live in the general range where Neanderthals used to live (Middle East and Europe). You would need additional evidence of this through mythology of other races

          B.) exactly how does this prove your theory as opposed to some integration of Neanderthal and Human culture?

          C.) We can’t be that does even describe Cromagnon because in relative terms it could also describes traits of them as well. While not as strong as Neanderthals they were still taller than them and more powerfully built than modern H.sapiens.

          http://www.britannica.com/topic/Cro-Magnon

          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9850627

        • “You go over and over and over but it doesn’t address my assertion that what “we” are is an evolved interbred hominid and that Caucasians are simply an older version carrying genes expressed that have not yet been suppressed by evolution because the scale is too short or the corollary because they are dominant.”

          A. Neanderthal Genes have been decreasing over time, so while I don’t think they didn’t contribute to modern homo sapiens that mixed with them I would call them all that dominate.

          B. Africans have older genes from a archaic species, so by that logic OOA stands. Of course that’s not my assertion, rather its to prove admixture is misleading through you’re methods of interpretation.

          “Put it another way; every ancient source of testimony to the original inhabitants of Mesopotamia and Europe attests to these peoples either living in caves or being nomadic.

          It also claims that these peoples were larger in stature, highly advanced and barbaric in nature.

          Neanderthal… an evolutionary offshoot separated from homo sapien by an Ice Age or multiple ones which is exactly what the historical accounts claim.”

          Except that

          C. As you said this applies to those in Europe or the Middle East, where Neanderthals resided and haven’t proven it’s extensiveness towards the rest of humanity. This only proves Neanderthals’ influence

          D. The descriptions of those people aren’t exclusive, relative to modern humans, to Neanderthal because Cro magnon, while not as strong as Neanderthal, were both stronger than modern humans and taller than Neanderthals. They were cave dwellers as well.

          http://www.britannica.com/topic/Cro-Magnon

          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9850627

          E. IF these testimonies described them as “advance” they must’ve had some sort of farming because around the time these testimonies were made what we know of Neanderthal culture wouldn’t be that impressive.

        • Jm8

          To Phil:

          The assertion that Africans have more archaic admixture is not currently supported (except likely in the case of Pygmies and maybe a few other groups, and even then it is not currently the high number that the Frost gives without genetic evidence). The most recent estimates for non Pygmies are very low (Razib Khan had some posts on the subject), but the studies are still being done.
          The Skhul Quafzeh “hominids are generally considered to be modern (though I don’t believe there is direct evidence of of their kind of ancestry in Africans, though it could be in some Africans). This is an essentially an unsupported and highly speculative claim by Frost.

          Early estimates for Pygmies were about 1-2%(less in other Africans, almost none/negligable in the Mandinka). Recent estimates for Pygmies are a bit higher, but appear well under 10%.
          http://www.pnas.org/content/108/37/15123

        • Jm8

          The full paper (the early one): the group with the highest (overall amount) ,Mbuti Pygmies, had 1-2%, others less.
          http://www.pnas.org/content/108/37/15123.full

        • Jm8

          (I hope this post is not double. It did not appear when I first posted it, so I posted it again, w/ minor addition)
          Some evidence of modernity predates 60-80,000 bc, and modern humans exist much earlier (200,000 bc in Ethiopia). Some early evidence is found far from the (likely) East African origin region not too long after 200k bc, suggesting modern (basically) capabilities from the beginning. Admittedly evidence (though not limited to the below) is patchy, though relatively little archaeological work has been done in Africa.
          The oldest projectiles(throwing spears) occur ca. 270,000 bc Ethiopia (likely associated with some form of early sapiens-transitional sapiens/heidelbergensis)

          http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0078092

          Middle stone age cultures of southern Africa ca 150-70,000 bc show modern behaviors , including the use of bone tools, shell beads, the trade of minerals across substantial distances ,the making heated of fat-based paints from ochre (100,000 bc), seasonal fishing and shellfish use,engraved ornaments, and upper paleolithic-style stone points.
          sites; Blombos, Howiesons Poort, and Pinnacle point
          e.g.:the preparation of stone for making microliths by precise heat treating to increase its flakeability at pinnacle point SA. ca 150-70,000 bc.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacle_Point

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howiesons_Poort

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blombos_Cave

          A Howiesons Poort tradition of engraving ostrich eggshell containers dated to 60,000 years ago at Diepkloof Rock Shelter, South Africa

          http://www.pnas.org/content/107/14/6180.full

          Bone harpoons from central Africa ca. 90,000 bc.

          http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-katanda-harpoons.html

          Evidence of arrowheads dates 60-70,000 in South Africa

          http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.466.2274&rep=rep1&type=pdf

        • To Jm8,

          That’s find but their is still fault in Dave’s logic. First of, their is weak evidence of major Denisovan admixture in conjunction with Neanderthal Ancestry present in Europeans or Middle Easterners.

          Second, Oceanics still have the highest amount of archaic admixture.

          http://www.hngn.com/articles/189961/20160317/ancient-denisovan-dna-found-modern-melanesians.htm

          Then this goes into an observation with populations with high amounts of archaic ancestry, proganthism.

          Both African and Oceanics, on average, express higher rates of such features relative to Europeans or Middle Easterners.

          Also, aside from the 2% archaic, the rest was believed to be of a group that are categorized as early modern humans.

          If Africans hypothetically do (I’m aware of you’re skepticism Jm8) have this, then by Dave’s logic, that would give better argument for them since those are older genes tied towards direct human lineage than that of Neanderthal ancestry.

          However that would be the case because that was due, hypothetically, towards admixture rather than H. Sapiens ancestry.

        • Jm8

          “Both African and Oceanics, on average, express higher rates of such features relative to Europeans or Middle Easterners.”
          The levels of archaic in Oceanics(or any other group) are generally unlikely to be visible.
          Also Europeans have heavier brow ridges in general than Africans and Asians. I doubt this has to do with archaic-ness, but with later selection.

          “Also, aside from the 2% archaic, the rest was believed to be of a group that are categorized as early modern humans.”
          I saw a similar claim in the link, but the group is accurately described as modern (early modern is maybe, in some cases) than rather archaic.
          Evidence of behavioral modernity predates 60-80,000 bc (contra Frost’s claims, though to be fair, this was a more common claim when he wrote his piece, before older evidence was known), and modern humans exist much earlier by 200,000 bc in Ethiopia (which has been known for a while). Some of the oldest cultural evidence is found(like that as Pinnacle Point, Blombos, and Katanda/Semliki; btwn 90-150,000 bc) far from the (likely) East African origin region not too long after 200k bc, suggesting modern (basically) capabilities from the beginning. Admittedly evidence is somewhat patchy, though relatively little archaeological work has been done in Africa.

          And clearly David Mowers is wrong. He seems to be making the creationist case for “micro but not macro evolution”, which is hardly worth bothering to refute.

        • Jm8

          “… Some of the oldest cultural evidence is found(like that as Pinnacle Point, Blombos, and Katanda/Semliki; btwn 90-150,000 bc) far from the (likely) East African origin region(where the first modern humans and the lodes projectile weapons are found) not too long after 200k bc,…”

        • Jm8

          edit “…first modern humans and the oldest projectile weapons; ca. 270,000 bc at Gademotta, Ethiopia…..)”

        • Jm8

          “…Also Europeans have heavier brow ridges (an more archaic trait) in general than Africans (who also tend toward less receding foreheads; projecting “frontal eminences”) and Asians,(but with Africans—though some groups much more than others, Oceanics, and some groups of South East Asians being more Prognathous). I doubt these kinds of differences this have substantially to do with archaic ancestry, but rather more with later selection.

        • To Jm8,

          But you are just looking at certain features, whereas Prognathism also goes into Maxillary and Alveolar prognathism which is higher in Africans and even Mongoloids than Caucasians and this does seem to go in line with levels of certain types of hominid ancestry. These types are shown to be more prominent in Archaic types than H. Sapiens (not to say they can’t occur but just less prominent)

          The types based on Frost post which made up most of the percentage, while vary much like modern, does holds a classification of modern in it’s early age. I don’t mean to say they are plainly archaic, what I meant was that S. Sapiens throughout it’s life span cannot be monolithic in it’s traits as time passes one in both behavior and physical features.

        • Jm8

          “But you are just looking at certain features, whereas Prognathism also goes into Maxillary and Alveolar prognathism which is higher in Africans and even Mongoloids than Caucasians and this does seem to go in line with levels of certain types of hominid ancestry. ”
          I mentioned two features(in Europeans) that are more archaic-like. Prognathism, more common in Africans and (variably) Mongoloids, is one other feature (or two if you so count maxillary and alveolar)
          Alveolar prognathism (or of the lower part of the maxilla) is more common in many/most African and E. Asian groups. General Maxillary is (probably) more common, but more variably so; seemingly lower in Khoisans (who are thought to have slightly more archaic than other Africans except Pygmies), some Sahelian and Nilotic groups, and some groups of Mongoloids. Though the latter three are probably very low in archaic ancestry; E. Asians/Native Americans have very little Denisovan (.02%) and only one percentage point or so more Neanderthal than Europeans.
          On the other hand, Negrito groups with no Denisovan ancestry (like the Andamanese and Jehai) seem to me slightly less prognathous than those that do (like the Mamanwa), though this could be my confirmation bias. Medlanesians (like Bouganville islanders) are often less prognathous (though still more so than Caucasians) than Papuans (both have the same archaic fraction. Of course European types also vary somewhat in prognathism, but I realize the issue is more a larger continental group comparison).
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisovan#Interbreeding

        • Jm8

          edit: “…E. Asians/Native Americans have very little Denisovan (.02%) and less than .5 of one percentage point more Neanderthal than Europeans( 2014 Sankararaman study).
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_humans#Neanderthals

        • Well my point wasn’t that there was a rule but a positive correlation between archaic ancestry and prognathism. Also, a receding forehead alone isn’t a feature distinguished by archaics but their lower forehead height along with the angle. Therefore, an archaic traits concerning the forehead would be it’s height+the angle.

          While Prognathism is one kind of traits, it is indeed a significant one in regards to neotony, the retaining of infantile traits which.

          Pygmies, while containing a relatively higher amounts of archaic ancestry compared to Yoruba for example, don’t show it that much based on their development system they possess (though due to Pygmies, such as the Akkas, mixing with Bantus this does causes exception though Alveolar prognathism is the typical type as oppose to maxillary) . Selection for Neotony likely aids in the weakening of the correlation between archaic ancestry and prognathism explains .

          One of the types of pressures I mentioned that aids in this process is highlighted in my second Niger Delta Beaters article.

          However, affinity to archaic-ness (perhaps not being archaicness itself) can also be seen in limb ratios concerning the body. I’ll admit it’s a stretch to claim that groups or individuals that have these traits on a certain average should be assigned as archaic, but rather I think these are traits that are somewhat influenced by Archaics the persisted into Homo sapiens. Thus I think affinity to certain Homo Sapiens populations based on timeline, if genetics alone were to correlate with prognathism, would give a higher correlation.

          Also, When applying it to Macro races I’m of course talking in terms of averages.

        • Jm8

          I’m just not sure I see much of a correlation. But It could be a factor (not to rule it out), I am uncertain. Also, smaller brow ridges (and forehead angle) are also linked to neoteny (being much smaller in children and increasing with puberty, especially in males).

        • “I’m just not sure I see much of a correlation. But It could be a factor (not to rule it out), I am uncertain. Also, smaller brow ridges (and forehead angle) are also linked to neotony (being much smaller in children and increasing with puberty, especially in males).”

          True, but perhaps their should be more than just skull/facial features to consider, like body proportions as well to get a better assessment.

          Based on what i read from your observations I agree that it could be a factor that contributes to the expression of such.

      • Jm8

        Edit: “Evidence of behavioral modernity in Africa predates 60-80,000 bc… … Some of the oldest cultural/archaeological evidence is found…”

  12. Jason Y

    It’s not surprising Lousiana would produce David Duke and other peckerwoods. The place has the worst blacks imaginable, but can we use Lousiana to represent all blacks?

    Some these Lousiana refugees have moved up to Tennessee (after Hurricane Katrina), and based on encounters with them, I think they far more racist than average appalachian people.

    • Jason Y

      Appalachians and people from around Mississippi and Lousiana are NOT the same. Even as late as the 1980s and maybe even now, it’s not even normal to see black and white people talk on a college campus, even though officially the places are integrated. However, that isn’t the case by a long shot in Knoxville.

  13. Jason Y

    The stuff Afrocentricists bring up are basically similar to myths or religious teaching. They don’t have much scientific backing. It’s just taken on word as a test of faith.

    • Jason Y

      However, some of the pride stuff is simply a backlash to blacks being told they were savages, idiots, ugly etc.. over a long period of time by whites. That can be understandable and very justified.

    • Dave Mowers

      All centered, ironically, on racist Bible teachings that were originally espoused to disenfranchise Negroes from Western society.

      It begins with the story of the Biblical generations and incorrect translations or etymologies of names like Cush, Ham and Khem and continues with wholly false interpretations of the Mark of Cain supported by bad historical accounts from Herodotus.

      Today African Americans use racist ideology(white racism in fact) to support their claims of Afrocentrism which has got to be the most insane basis for an hypothesis ever. It is racism doubled back on itself and put forward as originally intended to support reverse racism ideas.

  14. Another William Playfair Web

    Counter-point:
    It’s hard to beat WN idiocy.
    Got this from an AmRen article on Asians;
    “Of course Japan, Korea, and Singapore are poor, dirty, and full of crime. While Russia is a white paradise. There more factors to a nation’s success then just race. As for their women, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally find them very beautiful, certainly better than the fat feminist trash that I see a lot of at my college. They have class. Call me a race traitor.”

    (I bet you, like me, took a while to tell this was a joke. That’s the point WNs are frucktards).

    • Jason Y

      Well I agree about the beholder thing, but thier comment about Japan, Korea and Singapore pretty much destroys their credibility in journalism. I would find it shocking that even Stormfront would post such stuff.

      • It’s a joke, Jason, satire. That stuff about dirty Asian cities is a joke. Sarcasm.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          I had to re-read it to be sure.
          That’s the point- it’s very tough to tell.
          The writer was of course not a dummy- but was basically satirizing dummies.
          I know I kiss Asian and Jew A$$, but it’s still pretty sad that many White Supremacists (just not this one) believe that time of thing.

        • Jason Y

          Why wouldn’t they? I get called a gook lover for traveling to Korea. Basically a lot of whites have the impression Asians eat dogs, work in smelly restaurants or exist primarily to service massage parlors and nail salons.

          Your not talking about the most well traveled open minded bunch, these WNs.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          The biggest Anti-Asian line I hate, is;
          “why do(North Eastern) Asians move to White countries if they’re so smart?”
          Seriously?!?!?
          Why did Europeans move to the America? They civilized them, just like Asians are bringing a new civilization to us (if you’re going to be a literal minded, low-IQ dipshit, then I get to respond as one, too).
          Once again, with the literal mindedness/low-IQ,of even this guy, dirtiness of cities is not the sole indicator of the intellect of a population.
          lol..

        • Another William Playfair Web

          the Americas
          Aztecs didn’t build those pyramids without the help of the Guanches (Native inhabitants of the Canary Islands), who were descended from Vikings;

          We are the historical and racial truth-tellers. The stupid Jews censor us!
          pissed off!!!ah!!!!!!!

        • Jason Y

          Chinese would be coming to make more money. Koreans at one time wanted to make more money, now they are just opportunity seekers. Japanese have no interest generally in crossing the pond except maybe to Hawaii.

          They’re not making people more civilized, if thier plan is simply to bring thier own snobby prep school atmosphere to the New World, one that even spits on the disabled.

        • Gay State Girl

          William

          I certainly understand the Sinophilia.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Jared Taylor once said, in an interview he posted to AmRen, that when he would go on his trips to Japan it made him feel like ‘(the west) was the third world’.
          AmRen is certainly an interesting mix of HBDers, and, as Robert once said ‘White supremacists chiming in from the group home’…..

        • Jason Y

          So much of America’s musical heritage originated with poor people, often non-white. Japan doesn’t have the same thing.

          Anyhow, all people have to rise at some point. At one time Germans were considered barbarians, but they aren’t now. I don’t know how long it will take African Americans to rise until most of them are out of poverty, but it’s always an ongoing struggle.

        • Jason Y

          William mentioned Japan, but we must note all African American areas in the US aren’t the same. For instance, some refugee from Katrina in Louisiana isn’t going to be as fond of blacks, as someone accustomed to seeing blacks in up and coming middle class integrated areas.

          Note Asians, themselves, have terrible views of blacks because they base them all on the LA riots or American TV where they’re often portrayed as criminals. They get very little exposure to things showing blacks in any positive light.

        • Jason Y

          Unlike what SD might say you won’t find savage Anglo-Celts except on Braveheart, some show about ancient British history, WWF, or in Hell’s Angels etc…

          Most Anlgo-Celts have climbed out of the cave.

        • Jason Y

          I spent a few days in Japan. It was awesome. I felt like some kid on the original Willy Wonka movie. Every moment was like walking on the moon. it was so different that it was just like being on Mars or something. And it wasn’t like Korea, even though that place is exotic too.

        • Gay State Girl

          “Most Anlgo-Celts have climbed out of the cave.”

          They’re okay when in the minority…

    • Jason Y

      Was the article a joke or not? Why would they post jokes on there?

  15. jorge

    Until 2014 I didn’t even knew about Afrocentrism until I started to discuss on internet with some idiots.

    It’s incredibly how many of them are there. Not so many like Eurocentrists, but, in this case, they are from many countries, while apparently Afrocentrists are from United States (and maybe some from Canada), at least all with who I discussed.

    They mix pseudo-history with religious beliefs. It’s impossible make them have another point of view, they are like fanatic Evangelicals (that I know personally).

    I don’t know if is because there aren’t so many in western countries, but I don’t know any “Asiocentric” movement that exalts Mongoloid race (maybe exist). The same with Australoids. And I heard that exists similar Amerindian movements like this but are much smaller and usually are centred in some specific indigenous nation, not in the entire race.

  16. Jason Y

    As with extreme WNs, many won’t even talk to a member of another race. Bottom line, racists/nationalists of any background aren’t very nice people, generally.

    • Another William Playfair Web

      GAYSON IS A CUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Jason Y

        No liberal views don’t mean I get aroused by seeing black men screw my wife/girlfriend.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          yes, but Cuck is used well beyond that.

          Do you not burn crosses?
          Then you’re a cuck. ‘Probably a Jew or one of those Albino Spics like Ted Cruz…’
          lolololololololol

        • Jason Y

          So your saying Jewish klansmen get off on burning crosses to satisfy some cuck fantasy involving negroes?

          This is a big confusing. 😆

        • Another William Playfair Web

          If you’re a White, and you don’t burn crosses, you are a Jew or an Albino Spic/Non-Nordic.

          ‘IHATECOLOREDS IHATECOLOREDS. I READ AMREN SO I’M SUPER SMRT’

        • Gay State Girl

          I was a loser growing up. I would have been susceptible to these cult like nationalist movements, had I been of proper lineage… I probably would have gotten roped in to sacrificing myself for the greater cause or something.

          Thankfully jewish tribalism is naturally exclusive/elitist in nature…

        • Jason Y

          If you’re a White, and you don’t burn crosses, you are a Jew or an Albino Spic/Non-Nordic.

          No, It means your literate past the 8th grade reading level.

        • Jason Y

          Mad Magazine, probably controlled by Jews, did the best mockery of white nationalism Iv’e ever seen. Too bad I can’t remember the issue exactly. It had one guy wearing a shirt which said “White Trash” as opposed to “White Pride”. It also showed this skinhead complaining college enterance exams were too hard because they demanded a basic reading level,😆

        • Jason Y

          I was a loser growing up. I would have been susceptible to these cult like nationalist movements, had I been of proper lineage… I probably would have gotten roped in to sacrificing myself for the greater cause or something.

          Thankfully jewish tribalism is naturally exclusive/elitist in nature…

          Those movements don’t welcome the disabled, only left wing ones do, and NAM identity politics.

        • Jason Y

          I was a loser growing up. I would have been susceptible to these cult like nationalist movements, had I been of proper lineage…

          Actually these racist cunts are as annoying as normies. OK, so some jerk-wad sucked at sports as a kid and had a Axl Rose/Ozzy Osbourne background, so now he gets his vengence in white nationalism, cause unfortunately, he has no musical talent. Please… LOL

        • Another William Playfair Web

          GSG- I often wonder that myself, about me.
          However, I was not crazy, I just would have sympathies with it.
          Probably would ended up more of a Bernie Goetz type..who was part Jewish.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          GSG- You are Blonde, your mother is from South Africa, so probably no one would have suspected a thing.
          However, women aren’t really at too much of Klan meetings (those guys are chauvinists), and I would not want to take the chance.

        • Jason Y

          If William is so critical of WN then why does he go to Klan meetings?

          Klan meetings are fun when the Klansmen catch on fire from thier own crosses. How entertaining. Do they have any videos on JewTube ? Better than cat videos anyday.

        • Jason Y

          SO I take it that the stereotype is true and any white person from South Africa must be racist . Of course.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          I don’t go to Klan meetings.
          Women are outnumbered vastly, according to Alexa, on almost any open WN website, so they’re are no women.
          that’s the stereotype, but it’s not true.

          I’ve been told I look like this;

          I’d get kicked out of the meetings.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          It’s smaller sample size, so it’s likely there are no women.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          It’s also implied it’s statistically unlikely to see them there, but rarely you would, I suppose.

        • Another William Playfair Web

        • Gay State Girl

          My hair is medium brown (and forms a fro if I don’t tame it) and I’m short in stature, but facial features may well be Nordic.

        • Gay State Girl

          My entire name (first, middle, and last) is a dead give away as well.

        • Jason Y

          The nerdy 50s look sounds right on the money at a Klan meeting. Isn’t that the kind of man they want, aside from the Duck Dynasty look?

          Also, women are actually as or more racist than the men, thanks to indocrination in the most vile rape stories imaginable by thier daddies. It wouldn’t be hard ot imagine as many or more at racist meetings and websites.

        • Jason Y

          Most of the WNs sound like the wicked step-sisters on Cinderella, so it’s difficult to tell whether they are male or female, LOL They have this really bitchy, snooty, female sounding tone when they post things on there.

          Yeah you either got those types or these really macho military sounding types.

        • Jason Y

          A good example of the “bitch queen” type would be FadingLight on Stormfront. I think he’s a male, but then again his speaking seems female.

  17. Dave Mowers

    Gay State Girl
    May 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM

    “They’re okay when in the minority…”

    There are seven billion people on Earth. “Whites,” ARE the minority! Caucasians compete globally on all levels and are culturally distinguished as unique among national societies. Every nation of color on the planet is copying Western society so what does that tell you?

    • Jason Y

      That’s not the case. Generally among NAMs a subclass exists that can compete with whites, and also Northeast Asian nations are on par with white ones.

      • Jason Y

        Let’s also not forget the subclass of whites, plagued by drug addiction etc.. which are on par with the loser NAM people everyone hates on here.

      • Dave Mowers

        Name one multinational or publicly-traded company created by a colored person from a majority colored nation that has become part of mainstream culture.

        I’ll give you an example of a Caucasian one, Twitter.

        • Jason Y

          That doesn’t mean they can’t create one. Only that whites have more members in the higher IQ group, hence the probability of them creating something interesting his higher.

          Also NAMs have created a lot of major things in culture like jazz, blues, rock etc.. Nothing technological but stuff of an equal cultural magnitude.

          There hasn’t been enough time for a situation to arise where even a small amount of educated NAMs to create anything worthwhile to technology. But as access to a better environment improves for some NAMs that will change.

        • Jason Y

          As Swank was pointing out, the poster who was banned. a lot of NAMs have failed to achieve the dream of Martin Luther King or to be technologically on par with whites or even Northeast Asians due to the fact there just has been enough time to pass, and I don’t mean evolution, lol.

        • Jason Y

          One way to prove NAMs are these dumbasses WNs claim they are is to see if any are actually educated. Apparently, there are many math majors who are black at my state university, and I know of many black computer coders. So again, this whole racist crap, baloney is mythology.

          Even if a small group of NAMs is educated, well that’s enough of a pool to perhaps have the first techno breakthru by a NAM sometime in this century.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Based on biology, and questioning existing research I’ve seen on pumpkinperson’s blog, it appears, with the diversity/age of Blacks in Africa (were there longer than Caucasoids in West Asia/Europe), etc., that Blacks have a larger SD in IQ.
          It seems borderline impossible that is not the case.
          As for what that could mean, see here;
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/05/18/the-alternative-left-and-racial-conflict-in-the-us/#comments (the one by me, about half-way down the page).
          What about Benjamin Banneker? He was perhaps quite quite high IQ. Were the cultural Marxist Jews putting him up on a pedestal in the 1700s?

        • Jason Y

          Fredrick Douglass and others were put on a pedestal by abolitionists. Much to the dismay of grouches like former president Andrew Johnson who said, “He’s just another nigger, who would cut a white man’s throat on a whim of thought etc..”

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Don’t take this the wrong way, but are you bipolar/manic, Jason?
          You accuse me of being in the Klan one second and then talk about all Blacks having the desire to kill Whites the next…..

        • Jason Y

          With blacks the truth lies in the middle. Certainly some blacks would destroy western civilization, the ghetto ones.

          No I don’t think your in the Klan. I just can’t see where your coming from.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Although the ethical implications would be dreadful, we could try to investigate the brightness of “elite clusters” of Sub-Saharans, for instance the notion that Benjamin Banneker’s White grandmother taught him a lot of advanced Mathematics that she allegedly learned from her African-Born Husband.
          If you put a genius* in Sierra Leone, what would he do? What would he become? Assuming, the SDs are larger (see other posts) could such genius emerge in Sierra Leone, assuming that he at least has basic access to some things to learn advanced mathematics?
          But the ethical implications, would be dreadful
          This would be like the Rushton adoption study, except reversed, however, I suspect we would need to use Black kid(s) not White ones, that would be an uncontrolled variable…

        • Jason Y

          No, I never said blacks wanted to kill all white even in the least bit. I may have made some comment about how Tulio was a little bit too naive on the issue though. I mean, can you blame cops for racially profiling in an area where so many young black males look like hoodlums?

        • Jason Y

          I think a genius could arise anywhere except maybe in some extreme places like Australia before the European settlement. Even in Africa, I’m sure there was contact with people’s outside of the Sahara etc.. way back in the 1700s etc.., so the formation of a genius may have been possible.

        • Jason Y

          Maybe as William suggest there could have been clusters of high IQ in 1700s Africa, maybe even in Australia, but the stories from there, as noted in some of Robert Lindsay’s posts are pretty negative. Stories about parents eating kids etc..

        • Another William Playfair Web

          It’s funny and a little sad that so many non-Spanic Whites associate Bantu things, like West African stuff, and confuse it with the Bushmen/Southeast African stuff (like Lion hunting).

          I’ve wondered what life was like in Sub-Saharan Africa, and I hence read Oluduah Equiano account. He does describe a complex local community (not just savages), but said he had ‘never heard of the sea.’ I suppose it’s possible, however, that his people did have Northern contacts/had heard of the desert, however.
          He was supposed to have been an Igbo. Perhaps Phil could shed some light on this?

        • To William,

          Equiano is pretty much believed to be an Igbo, from what I read he said that his local societies were ran by Priests rather than Chiefs I think. Due to this I would situate him somewhere in the Region of Onitsha, basically those types of villages being major Igbo Culture areas that were highly into religion as a form of governing.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/a-look-at-precontact-igbo-society/

          Basically, as far as geniuses go, in the case of Nigeria that I know of historical would be Samuel Ajayi Crowther being the first Black Bishop in that region. While Missionaries results were often regarded as failures amongst Blacks, he was distinguished in that regard. Aside from him Chiefs were mainly the ones that were described with intelligence of distinguish ability, outside of that I can only speak of certain popilation

          From what I read, most Black populations that show promise were mainly displayed industry, gentleness, crafts-making, and military prowess. Examples of Pagan ones would be Most Pagan Central Nigerians from what I read (most now absorbed into Northern Chadic Speakers), those in Southern Nigeria on high elevation like the Yoruba or Bangwa,certain Mountain Farmers in the Cameroons like the Bangwa. and the Ashanti. Many Central and Southern Bantu tribes were also described this way.

          Jm8 also mentioned the Nandi of DRC who were mountaineers as well. Their other factors that go into it such as breeding styles and such but the main trait I observed was how most were removed from the lowland swamps to more elevated places.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/02/23/niger-delta-beaters-by-phil/

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/04/02/niger-delta-beaters-part-2-high-and-dry-by-phil/

          What I think causes conundrums in clearly seeing a continuity in character between modern tribes I think goes into group dynamics. I don’t think there is consistency in how groups now view themselves, what groups they are associated with in terms of borders, how they are generally governed, etc. compared to how they were originally. I mean, there are patterns consistent with regions both Historically and modern, however not as evident as one would think when given more of a modern infrastructure. I think These could’ve occurred during colonialism.

    • jorge

      It’s a joke?

      With seven billion people in the planet, all races are minority if you count it by separate.

      Whites originally were from Europe, Middle East, a little part of North Africa and the west of Central Asia…

      Now are majority in the Americas, Australia, New Zealand, north of Africa, half India and there are many in south of Africa… And those who rule the world are whites.

      So don’t play the victim because is ridiculous.

      And Western society was imposed in the whole world by invasions. Globalization, capitalism and consumerism condemned many people to extreme poverty, when their ancestors at least lived with their basic needs met.

  18. Dave Mowers

    Music and musical instrumentation was invented by the Sumerians.

    The first musical instrument ever created was built by Caucasians. You can see an example of one in the Iraqi National Museum.

    • Jason Y

      Yeah, but it isn’t interesting. Don’t you know? Culture outside of the USA sucks It’s for nerds. Thank goodness Negroes saved us from being boring.

      • Dave Mowers

        I’LL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT ICELANDIC KENNINGS ARE FULL OF RICH HISTORIES OF THE GODS AND MANY HAVE TWO CHORDS!!!

        I was at one that even had a bell that rang once per fifteen minutes in tune with the song…

        • Jason Y

          Well, that’s great, and if you choose to move to Iceland you will find a nice community of people who fetish that stuff.

          As for America we do have some white oriented music, though anyone is welcome to join in, called bluegrass. Country is sort of white oriented, but has a lot of influence of other genres though.

        • Jason Y

          I heard they worshiped a giant Afro man who came from outer space in ancient times. His fro was about a million times bigger than even on the Jackson Five. Sometimes you see Viking pictures with afros. It seems odd, as it’s very out of place. Must be some alien connection.

        • Jason Y

          Maybe the Icelanders worshiped the 70s era Prince. He’s from Minnesota you know.

    • Jason Y

      This whole thing about who created what first is childish. It’s like a bunch of kids going, “Nah, nah.. nah nah nah, we created at first and you didn’t, your stupid, your a monkey, 😆

      So what if maybe whites created music or blacks created the blues or Asians created karate. It just doesn’t matter.

      Ok, sense whites created most tech advances, perhaps they should simply ban NAMs from using them, since they don’t have a copyright on them. (sarcasm)

      • Another William Playfair Web

        the underlying problem with Nationalists movements, a moral objection all of us should heed, a moral absolute, to a certain degree, is that it’s not about your own achievements.
        Did David Duke or Don Black contribute to Mozart? No. Even to the Game Theory, no.
        Did Kate Steinle’s rapist contribute to the Mexicans independently inventing the wheel? No, either.
        That’s why it’s stupid, and why
        it’s morally reprehensible…..

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_flutes

      Goes back earlier than that. However, Sumerians likely influenced music’s progression into ancient (classical) music.

      instrument has been recognised as one of the oldest string instruments in world history.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_music#Prehistoric_music

      “The history of musical development in Iran (Persian music) dates back to the prehistoric era. The great legendary king, Jamshid, is credited with the invention of music. Music in Iran can be traced back to the days of the Elamite Empire (2500-644 BC). Fragmentary documents from various periods of the country’s history establish that the ancient Persians possessed an elaborate musical culture. The Sassanid period (AD 226-651), in particular, has left us ample evidence pointing to the existence of a lively musical life in Persia. The names of some important musicians such as Barbod, Nakissa and Ramtin, and titles of some of their works have survived.”

      The Early music era may also include contemporary but traditional or folk music, including Asian music, Persian music, music of India, Jewish music, Greek music, Roman music, the music of Mesopotamia, the music of Egypt, and Muslim music.

      The instinct or cultural build up of music likely has earlier roots in prehistoric life styles.

      “Prehistoric music, once more commonly called primitive music, is the name given to all music produced in preliterate cultures (prehistory), beginning somewhere in very late geological history. Prehistoric music is followed by ancient music in most of Europe (1500 BC) and later music in subsequent European-influenced areas, but still exists in isolated areas.

      Prehistoric music thus technically includes all of the world’s music that has existed before the advent of any currently extant historical sources concerning that music, for example, traditional Native American music of preliterate tribes and Australian Aboriginal music. However, it is more common to refer to the “prehistoric” music of non-European continents – especially that which still survives – as folk, indigenous or traditional music. The origin of music is unknown as it occurred prior to recorded history. Some suggest that the origin of music likely stems from naturally occurring sounds and rhythms. Human music may echo these phenomena using patterns, repetition and tonality. Even today, some cultures have certain instances of their music intending to imitate natural sounds. In some instances, this feature is related to shamanistic beliefs or practice.[3][4] It may also serve entertainment (game)[5][6] or practical (luring animals in hunt)[5] functions.

      It is probable that the first musical instrument was the human voice itself, which can make a vast array of sounds, from singing, humming and whistling through to clicking, coughing and yawning. In 2008 archaeologists discovered a bone flute in the Hohle Fels cave near Ulm, Germany.[7][8][9] The five-holed flute has a V-shaped mouthpiece and is made from a vulture wing bone. The oldest known wooden pipes were discovered near Greystones, Ireland, in 2004. A wood-lined pit contained a group of six flutes made from yew wood, between 30 and 50 cm long, tapered at one end, but without any finger holes. They may once have been strapped together.[10]”

  19. Jason Y

    I hate this notion that any music that isn’t pure is pussy or weak. With the exception of country and rap though (CRAP). It’s can sound dorky when mixed though not always.

    This whole thing of musical purity is nearly like that stuff with purity of race.

  20. Another William Playfair Web

    Three types of non-HBD/ WN non-Hispanic White racialist?
    1. “Why can’t Blacks just effing behave type” (possible to be cultural Marxist, and this)
    2. Those who believe there are n!ggers and non-n!ggers in the Black community, to compensate for that few, they seek out successful Blacks (non-n!ggers) and run in them in Presidential Elections/Political things, with mainly just that purpose (Herman Cain, Allen West, Mia Love, Ben Carson, possibly Tim Scott, etc.) also could be called ‘loose tokenists’, they like their political tokens, and it would be difficult to change the positive opinion they have of them, so it’s a little bit beyond tokenism in that sense.
    3. There are also ‘Hardcore tokenists’, who think (often sub-consciencelessly) that Minority tokens have to jump through hoops to get their approval. Only like the most extremely conservative/pro-White Blacks, and they can even ditch them (i.e. “I’m sick of Black President(s), we don’t need another one” after Ben Carson in rap video).
    beyond that is HBD/WN territory.

    • Another William Playfair Web

      with #2 types, all the GOP politicans/figures are not n!ggers to them.

      but with #3 types, in their heart of hearts, those folks are still n!ggers, whether they want to admit it or not.

    • Jason Y

      I think Ben Carson and Obama are vastly qualified, but then again, a huge reason they are getting elected is some kind of sub-concious liberal guilt trip on all Americans, Republican or Democrat. So a big reason they’re getting the attention is cause they’re a novelty.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        assuming this ‘model’ is true, that means the problem with the GOP actually ever having a non-White win the Presidency, is that as has been done in the past, if they re-nominated, the candidate would have trouble rallying the base. The #3 types would object to the fact that the said President had to compromise and betrayed his extreme values/doesn’t have the ability to jump through their insane hoops.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        There are either next to none or no #3 types who are Democrats, so this whole thing helped Obama.
        However, with Ben Carson, if he had been a White guy he may have been welcomed on the Debate stages as a token intellectual.
        hahahahahahaha…………………………………..

      • Tulio

        If I ever need brain surgery, Ben Carson is top on my list. But I want his ass nowhere near the bully pulpit.

        As for Obama, I believe future historians will generally hold him in moderately high regard. His popularity ratings are already starting to edge up as his era comes to a close and we’re able to compare his even-tempered demeanor with the his likely successor.

        I’ll very much miss Obama. I hope he stays active in public life in some way.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          “Moderately High regard”
          sounds about right.

          Ben Carson seems to have some type of illness, he appears to be highly medicated, for he talks much differently than interviews he did around 15 years ago.

    • Another William Playfair Web

      but look at the GOP now, the #3 types are taking over, and setting ever higher standards, so basically non-White (even other than Black) is good enough for them…………………………………………………………
      I suppose Ben compensated with his characterized remarks on ‘securing the border with drones’ and ‘no Muslims in the White House’ and endorsing Donald Trump, but Allen West has expressed some sympathy for Cruz, so these #3 people are dumping him….

  21. Jason Y

    Nazi apologists/supporters have something bigger to do than just holocaust denial. How can they rationalize Hitler after his plans for slavs:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Slavic_sentiment

    Note his view of slavs, and the fact they needed Jewish masters is exactly how WNs look at US NAMs.

    So yeah,Afrocentric thinking is crazy, but it’s just as or more crazy than WN thinking, and WNs in history have had real power, black nationalists have not.

    • Jason Y

      Note the Great Depression kicked off this whole mess with Hitler. Isn’t it scary how just one little event can put crazy people in power and the world on the path to mass genocide, in only a few years?

      Sounds similar to this Trump phenomenon now.

  22. Nsimbi

    being a complete human,is something racists have to learn.Inshallah

    • Another William Playfair Web

      Indeed, Indeed.

    • Jason Y

      Yeah but you can say the same for terrorists. But how many people will we allow these people to kill (Take the Turner Diaries book for example) and hurt (some psychologically like mixed raced children) before someone takes a real stand which might involve taking them off the planet.

  23. Another William Playfair Web

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXX0wnCu7N45DmSw89sUFrQ
    Allright, this youtube channel is pretty damn great, tho.

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