Critique of the Alternative Left

Here.

This Leftist posted a friendly unfriendly look at the Alt Left, which he had never heard of until recently.

He’s not impressed, to put it mildly:

For Christ’s sake, this is a truly bizarre movement. Curiously, one of them seems to be a lapsed Marxist, but still spouting Marxist claptrap about the labour theory of value. Perhaps some of these current “Alt Left” supporters are more reasonable than others, however. See here for an interesting description of the politics and views of one of the less extreme “Alt Left” bloggers.

It’s always pleasant to be called bizarre of course. But the compliments don’t stop there. I am the less extreme and more reasonable Alt Left supporter that he discusses above, and the link is to my site. Yay! It is so nice to be less extreme and more moderate. Feels great. Well, there’s my one compliment of the day quota. Now I can sleep well tonight.

He didn’t capitalize Christ in the above post, so in order to not disrespect my idol and mentor, I kindly did it for him. It really annoys me when  atheists don’t capitalize God or Islam or Christianity. What’s the point they are trying to make, other than to be childish?

The “Alt Left” seems to me – if such a movement does exist – to be mostly a bizarre product of extreme left-wing Postmodernist ethnic-racial identity politics, except – and here is the key – applied to white people.

These are Western white people who have been brainwashed in Postmodernist and Social Justice Warrior identity politics, but suddenly transform into supporters of white identity politics.

Well sure. I noticed this a long time ago. In exactly the same ways as any other Identity Politics (including the non-White IdPol that the White nationalists hate so much) is irrational, contradictory or flat out crazy, so indeed is White nationalism. I recognized a long time ago that WN’s are just Afrocentrists, Atzlanistas or Asian supremacists in whiteface, except that the WN’s are sworn enemies of the others and vice versa. But they are so much alike! David Duke has more in common with your average Black Lives Matter fool than he has with my Mom or William Playfair, who don’t particularly give a damn about the White race.

Paint Duke up in blackface and wa-la! Hey, it’s Louis Farrakhan, what do you know!

Put whiteface on Al Sharpton and whoa, lookie there, it’s Alex Linder! Isn’t that amazing?

All these groups are really saying the same thing, but it is only the object of their ethnic obsession that is different. But the core manner of thinking and message is the same.

A while back, I noticed that all nationalists are the same. I mean the ugly Patriotard type, not the ethnic ones.

…could, by using Postmodernist identity politics ideas, easily morph into a bizarre left-wing mirror image of the right-wing white nationalists or “Alt Right.”…And, even worse, this Alt Left movement could then morph into a type of left-wing fascism.

This is a significant concern. I assume that such a wing of the Alt Left will spring up or perhaps it already has. There are “Left fascists” who have been pushing me in that direction for some time now. In fact, there are “Left fascist” grouplings already on Facebook. Left fascism is not as nuts as it sounds. Third Positionists are a real thing. The National Bolsheviks actually exist in Russia. Strasserism was a real political movement until a Sea of Blades ripped it to gory shreds one Darkened Eve in 1932.

Already some were describing at least one wing of the Alt Left as “really just national socialism.” And indeed, that is quite well what it could become if it’s not headed there already.

His core critique is actually a bit more involved than I laid out here and has to with the definition of postmodernism and national progressive politics or the lack thereof. You are welcome to hop on over there and try to figure it out.

All in all, this is quite a bright fellow, and whew! It’s so nice to be moderate and extreme for once, even if it’s only for a day! A man cannot live on radicalism alone. He needs a more balanced diet of ideas or else signs of various cognitive deficiencies emerge.

Anyway, it’s nice that folks are talking about us. May the discussions and of course the attention continue! As the Hollywood people say, “There’s no such thing as bad publicity. I don’t care what they are saying about me, as long as they are talking about me.” And in a monetized world of quarter hour glory quotas, perhaps attention equals money just like in Our Lady of the Angels.

Just think about it. You too can become a commodity! Get on board the Attention Train! Hop up on a table near you and start dancing, dammit!

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110 responses to “Critique of the Alternative Left

  1. I’m the author of the “Social Democracy for the 21st Century” blog, and if I have been too hard on you, then I apologise for that.

    Perhaps I was too influenced by some of the more extreme stuff on that Millennial Woes hangout.

    Anyway, looking over your blog I see some reasonable things, and I’m genuinely interested to read more.

    I am curious to know: what is your position on mass immigration?

    • That is quite all right. I very much enjoyed your site and I think you are one smart cookie. Also I relate to quite a few of the things that you are talking about. There is indeed an Alt Left wing that is already more or less White nationalist and they are hobnobbing with the WN biggies. I honestly do not wish to go that route. I have no interest in White nationalism and I do not want this to be a racist movement. Nonracist would be better because antiracism has gone over to insane people.

      I suppose I am one wing of the Alt Left and we have more than two wings in the future. I envision this is a multi-tendency movement.

      Mass immigration has gotten ridiculous. I go to downtown LA and it doesn’t even look like my country anymore. It looks more like the UN building in New York. It’s much too high. Legal immigration is 1 million/year and that does not include all the fake guest worker programs. I lived in the 1970’s when we had 400,000 legal immigrants/year and I did not feel that we were turning into another country back then. I would reduce legal immigration from 1 million to 400,000 and institute an IQ test to get in. Immigrants we let in would have to have averaged out IQ’s of 98 because that’s the IQ of the US as a whole. The idea of importing less intelligent people so as to reduce the intelligence of our land strikes me as insane. Immigrants are supposed to be a benefit, not a hindrance.

      I very much hate illegal immigration and I want all the ones here deported somehow or other. Nationwide Everify would go a long ways towards doing that as they would self deport as they would no longer have jobs.

      I would eliminate almost all of these fake guest workers because we don’t need any of them. This is just a scam to replace US workers with cheap foreign ones.

      Ok there you have it.

      • Thanks very much for your honest reply to clarify the issue. This is one the serious issues of our age, however much people might disagree on certain details. It’s outrageous how stupid the left has become on this topic, however.

        I have some posts here on why the left should oppose mass immigration here:

        “Mass Immigration is the Last Fraud of Neoliberalism”
        http://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.com/2016/03/mass-immigration-is-last-fraud-of.html

        “Murray Rothbard loved Open Borders and Mass Immigration ”
        http://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.com/2016/03/mass-immigration-is-last-fraud-of.html

        “Ralph Nader on Open Borders and Mass Immigration”
        http://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.com/2015/12/ralph-nader-on-open-borders-and-mass.html

        American Socialism and Mass Immigration

        http://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.com/2016/02/american-socialism-and-mass-immigration.html

        E.g., from the latter post, this is what the radical socialist left in America used to think about mass immigration c. 1911:

        “The Socialist party of the United States favors all legislative measures tending to prevent the immigration of strike breakers and contract laborers, and the mass importation of workers from foreign countries, brought about by the employing classes for the purpose of weakening the organization of American labor and of lowering the standard of life of the American workers.” (Carlton 1911: 352).

      • Another William Playfair Web

        No, Robert we have to get rid of ALL the therd wurld Mongrol savages.

      • Tulio

        400,000 is too many to me. Why is immigration even necessary anymore in the first place? I could see why it was necessary in the past when there was a mostly empty frontier that needed to be settled, but this country now has 320 million people. I really see no need for anymore people here. If it were up to me, immigration would be granted only to extraordinary individuals. Or people who are coming here to create jobs, like Elon Musk. And of course if you marry an American. We could also allow 1 new immigrant for every American that expatriates.

        • Jason Y

          Looking at this from a non-racist perspective, I still can’t see how we need more immigrants as Tulio said. Of course, if it weren’t for free trade etc.. I don’t think the incentive to come to the USA would be as great.

          Actually though sometimes I’m flattered people would want to go to the USA, when they could just go to Canada, which seems to the nation a lot of foreigners like, as they see the US as arrogant.

  2. poleandpaddy

    I would have very much have agreed with this post not so long ago (please see my take on the matter here: http://www.poleandpaddy.com/?p=203).

    But I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s all well and good possessing lofty ideals re: individualism and liberalism, but it seems to me now that there is a place for a degree of identity politics in practice. The early feminists had to make a point of being female, because, well, the system was biased against that very identity. It would have been rather hollow to march chanting “all genders matter”. New political movements need to be clear and isolate the exact issue: and then it was marriage and legal laws which favoured males over females. And, much in the same way, African Americans are a special case in the US, and they do have grievances that not all ethnic groups share. For this reason I support, and believe you should too, BLM.

    • Walten@mail.com

      When will BLM protest all the Black-on-Black Crime and Black-on-White Crime?

      And feminism has led to women having a lower life satisfaction than.

      • poleandpaddy

        There appears to be 2 points there.
        1) is simple. BLM was set up to draw attention to the black men, women and children being shot down in the streets by police officers.
        2) makes you look suspicious and stupid.

        • Tulio

          But BLM was protesting after the Dylan Roof shooting, and I’m sure they’ve have been protesting after the Trayvon Martin shooting as well if they’d been around back then. I don’t buy that BLM only focuses on police brutality. If there is any high profile killing of black by ANY white who is deemed to be racist, law enforcement or not, BLM will be involved.

  3. Another William Playfair Web

    Well, someone on pumpkinperson once compared White national Median IQs (they generously left off non-European ones, but did not cherry pick like WNs do, including ALL of Europe), and showed many countries actually are in the lower 90s, while showing NorthEast Asian IQs, in the mid 100s (between 100 and 110). Where 100 is the norm of course, for GB.
    The point is, WNs
    1. Don’t know the definition of “White”
    2. Don’t understand that being White is not the greatest honour of all time.

    P.S. Alt-Righters, please don’t come at me with the “Whites are more creative”.
    You guys do realize that Asians have the spatial side of their brain more developed, which is also where creativity comes from.
    It’s lower hormones and motivation, as well as a high population that needed to be methodically provided for; https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7d/9d/f7/7d9df792eafc6d2e80ef9163cb0e3b60.jpg
    that caused such. No time for creativity and a culture of conformity that was caused.

    Now in fairness, the Alt movements are pro-White because being pro-Asian in the U.S. is useless too few NE Asians, and it would be a massive cultural shift. But they need to stop being so sanctimonious about it (i.e. AmRen)

  4. Another William Playfair Web

    What I object to, is in the Alt-Right, and to the lesser extent the Alt-Left, them using the term “race realist”.
    So you’re unabashdley pro-White? and you’re a realist?
    Ask yourself; is White the smartest race?
    No.
    Then why?
    I just don’t get it.
    Must WNs have stopped pretending, but some still hold onto that. Like AmRen. It’s so goddamn obvious, one Scientific Article praising the Asians one day, then the next, “Anyone who says Affirmative Action harms Asians, not just Whites, is a cuck” although it does.
    It’s such a con, and that’s why the readers of it are so uneducated…..

    • Race realist is simply anyone who believes that race is a real thing with real effects on individuals and society and not a social construct. You are either a race realist or a race denier, one or the other.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        So by that logic even scientists who think Blacks are the smartest are “race realists”
        Also if that’s the case a ton of people are race realists most people I know can’t deny race as a scientific Concept with a straight face….

        • There are no “scientists” who believe that Blacks are smarter than Whites. If you think the differences are due to environment, you are a race denier.

        • Gay State Girl

          Lindsay

          Will you marry me?

        • Another William Playfair Web

          That’s of course not what I meant to say (oops), but what about Afro-Centrists? They acknowledge there are different races (since they love and hate based on them), so are they race realists?

          I find it hard to believe the definition is that broad, if it is, only the most extreme SJWs are NOT race realists.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          So…it’s implying that there are evolutionary differences simply by the notion that race exists?

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Some people who acknowledge race don’t acknowledge the possibly implications of evolutionary differences (Whether athleticism was opted for, or intelligence).

        • The official line of society is that there is no such thing as race and race is a social construct with no meaning. If you deviate from that and say race is real, you can lose your job, your career, get called racist, etc.

        • Some people who acknowledge race don’t acknowledge the possibly implications of evolutionary differences (Whether athleticism was opted for, or intelligence).

          That is exactly what race denial is.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Robert- Then why do the psychiatry and psychology papers also reference race as a factor?
          You don’t get too cocky about race
          you say
          1. It’s a weak concept/mostly environmental NOTHING to do with the brain
          or
          2. Does not exist.

          I think the notion that you can lose your job for saying ‘race is real’ depending on the concept, is probably a myth.
          Have you ever known anybody in that situation?

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Robert-
          You may be isolated because of your very High IQ.
          It’s possible for disproportionately lower IQ people to believe that race is real, but that humans have largely the same evolutionary traits.
          Just like “Hispanic is a race” things I talk about, it just seems like a lot of commenters can’t “put on their idiot hat” and understand where the arguments of these people are coming from.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          So “racialist” and “race realist” are the same thing?!?!?!?

        • If you suggest that biological race has anything to do with crime, aggression, violence, antisocial behavior, poor planning, poor performance in school, intelligence, grades, athletics, personality, or behavior in any way, shape or form you are pretty much gone from most jobs and careers.

        • It’s a weak concept/mostly environmental NOTHING to do with the brain

          There is your race denial right there. Race deniers say well yes race does exist but the only differences are superficial things like hair texture, skin color, that sort of thing. Biological race does not cause any human differences in anything that matters.

        • Robert-
          You may be isolated because of your very High IQ. It’s possible for disproportionately lower IQ people to believe that race is real, but that humans have largely the same evolutionary traits.

          That is the DEFINITION of race denial. Yes race exists but human races are pretty much equal in their biological capacities and race only concerns some superficial differences.

          If you believe that, you are called a RACE DENIER.

        • Alpha Unit

          If you go around asserting that race determines personality or behavior without presenting the evidence that it does, you are called a RACE HUSTLER.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Got it;
          So it’s not acknowledging that race exists-it’s acknowledging that race is meaningful especially in an evolutionary sense

        • Got it;

          So it’s not acknowledging that race exists – it’s acknowledging that race is meaningful, especially in an evolutionary sense.

          You got it!

        • “If you go around asserting that race determines personality or behavior without presenting the evidence that it does, you are called a RACE HUSTLER.”

          As far as I know nobody respectable in race-realism says that it determines it but rather it can be a factor.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Phillipe J. Rushton began looking into the personality stuff. He really didn’t get too far (he was ill) but said basically ‘Anyone who goes to Korea and then to Lagos, can see that Blacks have a more dominant personality, while Asians have a more dottering personality’

        • If you go around asserting that race determines personality or behavior without presenting the evidence that it does, you are called a RACE HUSTLER.

          Hey! Now you wait just one minute now, dammit! I represent that remark!

          Phillipe J. Rushton began looking into the personality stuff. He really didn’t get too far (he was ill) but said basically ‘Anyone who goes to Korea and then to Lagos, can see that Blacks have a more dominant personality, while Asians have a more dottering personality’

          Yeah, those differences between those two very major races are so biological it is ridiculous. When you start a lot deeper than that, I am not so sure.

        • Jason Y

          quote by RobertLindsay

          If you suggest that biological race has anything to do with crime, aggression, violence, antisocial behavior, poor planning, poor performance in school, intelligence, grades, athletics, personality, or behavior in any way, shape or form you are pretty much gone from most jobs and careers.

          Possibly cause a person suggesting that would seem like a real asshole. Possibly, cause even assuming race plays some role, racists are mostly trumpeting generalizaitons. However, generalizations are dangerous. As we’ve seen in the real racist past of the US, once everyone believes racist thinking, that can’t imagine an exception to the rule.

        • Jason Y

          Meant to say “Once everyone believes racist thinking they can’t accept an exception to the rule.”

          In general the thinking of a racist society is incredibly negative, shallow, and fake. It’s a cup half empty society, kind of like what you would see in Northeast Asia.

          A politically correct society is the opposite, at least giving certain people a chance.

        • Jason Y

          quote by William

          Robert- Then why do the psychiatry and psychology papers also reference race as a factor?
          You don’t get too cocky about race
          you say
          1. It’s a weak concept/mostly environmental NOTHING to do with the brain
          or
          2. Does not exist.

          I think the notion that you can lose your job for saying ‘race is real’ depending on the concept, is probably a myth.
          Have you ever known anybody in that situation?

          It depends on the environment and how vocal you are. For instance at a university, a lot of students, and even a few teachers, are “under the breath” racists. In other words, they don’t boldly come out and say stuff, but you get the picture.

          I knew one math professor who was one of these racist Christian people. Apparently, he kept his job for years, and obviously I’m sure people got the drift that they guy was a Nazi.

        • If you suggest that biological race has anything to do with crime, aggression, violence, antisocial behavior, poor planning, poor performance in school, intelligence, grades, athletics, personality, or behavior in any way, shape or form you are pretty much gone from most jobs and careers.

          Possibly cause a person suggesting that would seem like a real asshole.

          That’s not the reason. It is simply a “banned belief.” You are not allowed to hold that opinion in the US at this moment. It’s just about illegal. Thoughtcrime.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          True Robert, very true.
          One slight disagreement, in that athletics might be okay, if you say “when slaves were taken from Africa, there was a Eugenic affect for athletics”
          You’re fine. This is what even Black people say…

        • Another William Playfair Web

          When I was a watching the Arizona Vs. Green Bay game late in winter break with my dad and one of the legendary Az running backs was scoring a long TD, he said “it’s so un-pc, but Blacks are naturally athletic”
          It’s one of those things that the majority actually believes………..

        • Jason Y

          I’d say difference in race are somewhat due to the environment, but not totally. In fact, the environment could play a large role. It’s about the environment being a breeding ground for either switching on the bad or good genetic traits.

          For instance, a bad non-white brain might not switch on to “badness” in a good environment etc…

        • “I’d say difference in race are somewhat due to the environment, but not totally. In fact, the environment could play a large role. It’s about the environment being a breeding ground for either switching on the bad or good genetic traits.”

          Well based on this, since you part take in a weird form of environmentalism, I’d say you’re a denialist due to your persistent assertions of racial disparities being minute and overblowing environment’s impact.

          “For instance, a bad non-white brain might not switch on to ‘badness’ in a good environment etc…”

          Constantly said, never verified as far as you have argued in the case of behavior.

  5. Another William Playfair Web

    Many WNs not Must WNs

  6. Another William Playfair Web

    David Duke has more in common with your average Black Lives Matter fool than he has with my Mom or William Playfair, who don’t particularly give a damn about the White race.”

    I am honored.🙂 Although David Duke is pretty ridiculous sometimes, I think the WN community would be much worse without him. He modernized them.

    • Another William Playfair Web

      Plus, he and Don Black have given a no tolerance policy to Nordicism.

      • Jason Y

        Possibly cause it would alienate most real white people. I mean how many whites actually have blonde hair and blue eyes ,or red hair and green eyes?

        Without a base of support how can they function? However, obviously, it would be better if they didn’t function, so I would hope for the Nordicist side.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          You goddamn Italian n!gger, Jason.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          lol

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Random question; Are you British/German “Anglo-Saxon” in ancestry, Jason?

        • Jason Y

          Oh yes, mostly Scotch Irish, German with some Cherokee.

          Anyhow, it would make more sense to be a nordicist seeing the blond blue eyed, or maybe red haired green eyed people cannot really mate outside their group without massive destruction to the pure bred look.

        • Jason Y

          You can’t get the same random yo yo people in Tennessee if some of them mate outside of people in Tennessee, say to blacks, Mexicans, Italians. Over time the look would change.

          The people here look the way they do cause generally they just breed out of the same gene pool.

        • Jason Y

          Some scotch Irish have hair like black people. It throws a monkey wrench into racist thinking saying Scotch Irish are aryans etc… Of course, though in most of them it’s not a dark black color.

          However, there is interracial breeding in Appalachia between blacks and whites, and much more now than in the past.

        • Gay State Girl

          People of he same ethnic background can look very different. My paternal grandparents both of Ukrainian Jewish origin. My grandfather looked a “high yellow” 1/4 mulatto, my grandmother looked like Ingrid Bergman.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          didn’t you say your mother was “Eurasian” and Jewish? From South Africa?
          It’s sort of fun trying to put together a profile of the major commenters. lol.

        • Gay State Girl

          She’s of partial Bukharan ancestry and looks like a 1/4 hapa. My ancestors came over with the East India company in the late 18th century. There are also communities of Indian Hindus and Malaysian Muslims in South Africa but they are much larger.

        • Jason Y

          People of he same ethnic background can look very different. My paternal grandparents both of Ukrainian Jewish origin. My grandfather looked a “high yellow” 1/4 mulatto, my grandmother looked like Ingrid Bergman.

          A lot of the hate is due to local prejudice. For instance, people here hate curly hair on white cause they associate it with being wussy, gay, or black, three groups white bigots hate. Sort of again, like the disco backlash.

          You wouldn’t encounter the same prejudice in Italy, but in parts of Europe they hate Jews and associate white curly hair with Jews.

          Right people look different everywhere and depending on the local prejudice there might be some picking on. Some mulatto looking person in Russia might not get any problem, but in the USA they’d get lumped with black people.

        • Gay State Girl

          I did not know Europeans viewed curly hair negatively. Is it chiefly in Eastern Europe?

          My Jewlatto looking grandfather used to have his hair chemically straightened long before it was popular for girls to seem more palatable in the business world.

    • Gay State Girl

      WNs have adopted n****r mentality in regards to Jewish power. All they do is rant about minorities, rather than mobilize and create a more viable, mature movement to counter.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        There are answer is an orangutan (Trump) who is out of his goddamn mind.
        Maybe it’s better that they don’t find any solutions….

  7. Another William Playfair Web

    pardon?
    When given the choice between a third world hellhole and a post-apocalyptic nuclear wasteland, I’ll take the third world hellhole

  8. Tulio

    Is the alternative left really just a form of national socialism? I was doing some reading about the key differences between the American right and the European right.

    In Europe, pretty much everyone is socialist. The right in Europe believes in universal healthcare. There may be a difference in degree as to how much taxation and how much regulation there should be, but the right isn’t at war with the social safety net in Europe as they are in America.

    So basically socialism in Europe is divided between internationalist socialism and nationalist socialism. The internationalist want to cede more power to the EU, the nationalist want less, or out of the EU altogether. The latter also oppose immigration and refugees.

    The European right has many views that would align with the American left. For example, they pretty much all believe in single payer healthcare and a right to k-college education. They are onboard with climate science. They believe in gun control. They are not at war with abortion. They tend to believe in strong central government(federalists). They do not associate themselves with evangelicals.

    The European right though unlike the left believes nationalism, reduced immigration. Some are racist and outright Nazis at the extremes, but not all right-wing parties are like that.

    • Well you know Rabbit? It’s the main other Alt Left guy along with me. He laid out his spiel in a long interview and a lot of the commenters were saying, “Well this is really just national socialism, right?” And people kept saying that over and over.

      Yes I support nationalism and socialism, correct. The word national socialism has a bad connotation and every party that uses it nowadays is pretty nasty, so I’d rather not call myself that.

      That Alt Left is for socialism and nationalism, right.

      • Always the alt right thinking would imagine that reduced immigration and bringing jobs home would make capitalism work, hence no need for liberal social programs.

        Are they correct ???

        That’s just another lunatic Libertarian fantasy. Free-marketeers are like religious fundamentalists. The market is always right. The market is the answer to everything. The market will solve all problems. In cases where the facts don’t align with their Austrian or Objectivist or whatever bullshit, the facts are wrong. The theory is never wrong because it can’t be.

        These people are IDEOLOGUES.

        I don’t think you understand capitalism or economics very well, Jason. As a good general rule, capitalism on its own pretty much NEVER works so well that there is no need for social programs. It can’t. It’s pretty close to a Law of economics.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          “That’s just another lunatic Libertarian fantasy. Free-marketeers are like religious fundamentalists. The market is always right. The market is the answer to everything. The market will solve all problems. In cases where the facts don’t align with their Austrian or Objectivist or whatever bullshit, the facts are wrong. The theory is never wrong because it can’t be.”

          Because human beings are inherently evil

    • Jason Y

      Always the alt right thinking would imagine that reduced immigration and bringing jobs home would make capitalism work, hence no need for liberal social programs.

      Are they correct ???

      • Another William Playfair Web

        “Always the alt right thinking would imagine that reduced immigration and bringing jobs home would make capitalism work, hence no need for liberal social programs.”

        Yeah, well that’s a gross oversimplifications. The Alt-Right is full of vapid simpletons. You can’t just move backwards in time/the economic continuum. Karl Marx said we all move towards socialism/communism over time. We see that by corporate abuse now.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          oversimplification

        • Another William Playfair Web

          “that’s a gross oversimplification

        • Jason Y

          The problem with the alt right though is that Marx is more likely to come true, because they’re not going to be able to get rid of ethnic minorities in major Anglo nations, especially the USA. As long as the minorities are around, they’re isn’t anyway for capitalism to work, by alt right thinking.

          Nobody would be able to implement some cruel solution to get rid of certan groups they don’t like in modern America. Even such a try would lead to a massive violent backlash. Plus, you’d have to get a majority of white Americans behind the project and generally they view WNs and their philosophy as garbage, even disco and rap haters, lol.

        • Jason Y

          The only group you could possibly get all white Americans to hate and deport would be Muslims You can’t even really get white Americans to get rid of Latinos, only the illegal ones. Actually, white Americans don’t really hate Latinos. Many have latino friends and Mexican food and culture is quite popular.

        • Jason Y

          With the exception of maybe white people in Lousiana (hurricane Katrina fallout), and various parts of the south, you can’t really get a group that hates blacks at level of WNs, to the point of where you could get enough votes to deport blacks out of the nation.

          Unlike what racist commenters Sam and the like say, most white people just don’t hate blacks at a scary primal level, even though (and this is true on my college campus) there is so much evidence generally linking them to crime.

          Most whites can simply get away from black crime by just avoiding poor neighborhoods, but Sam and the like heavily disageed.

  9. Another William Playfair Web

    Still better than the Alt-Right.

    I hear their newest sensation is the book; “Why God Hates Mexicans, punto idiota” by Ann Coulter…….

    • Another William Playfair Web

      Of course the Nordicists also like Andrew Anglin’s book;
      “The Great Lord Ograf warned as about the Italian N!ggers”

      • Jason Y

        Generally speaking, Northern Europeans are racist toward southern ones and also slavs. If they became less racist, possibly the Northern European look would go away, unless the ones that prefer their own people keep up a high birth rate.

        Of course that seems to be the case everywhere. Where I live assuming birth rates stay the same, Note,I don’t see a real threat to the “look” of people here. They’re not turning into a different breed.

        There are some women who date blacks and sire children with them, but they’re not a large majority, not really a threat to the people who just mate among their own people.

        • Jason Y

          Meant to say Of course that seems to be the case everywhere. Where I live, assuming birth rates stay the same, I don’t see a real threat to the “look” of people here. They’re not turning into a different breed.

    • Another William Playfair Web

      “Little Marco Rubio, the Squatamalans’ Son”

    • Another William Playfair Web

      “Why Donald Trump represents the Second coming of Jesus- and prove’s he’s Nordic”
      co-Authored by Ann Coulter and Andrew Anglin.

  10. Another William Playfair Web

    “I Almost feel sorry for Hispanic Women, the non-Stop victims’ of the sp!c mens’ rape, but I don’t and here’s why, bonito gringo”
    by Ann Coulter

  11. Another William Playfair Web

    It’s not in Ted’s ethnic genetic interests not to support trump. He’s using this god argument so his supporters don’t go for trump in the general

    • Gay State Girl

      I don’t think it will help.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        These people are religious, many had problems like addiction before turning to God, and Trump represents temptation/evil, those who bullied them, and he who embodies everything they have had trouble with their whole lives.

        Trump has a long road ahead.

        If it wasn’t for even some White Libs being tired of the Cultural Marxist/SJW crap, Trump wouldn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell, but because of that, he does.

        • Jason Y

          The religious tend to take responsiblity for thier own actions more, while Trump supporters would want some kind of ethnic scapegoat for their failed lives. Of course, the religious group is more heroic.

    • Gay State Girl

      Hillary’s a baby killer you see and she’s gunna take our gunz.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        ‘In the fantasy world of the GOP Hillary led the attack on Benghazi, and Obama is about to be impeached for being Bill Cosby’s pharmacist’
        (that’s a quote from Bill Maher)

        All joking aside the statistical data apparently bears out the notion that post- Roe V. Wade abortion is essentially a Eugenics program (whether that is intentional or not).

        • Gay State Girl

          It was intentional, and I am somewhat on board with that. I don’t know why moderate republicans don’t simply appeal to a more socially conservative base, by saying “Do you wanna pay these bitches’ welfare checks?”

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Well, that’s the catch. It was always sort of obvious that it coincided with the first baby steps towards a quasi-welfare state. But it wasn’t enough. There became paranoia about ‘Coloreds’ getting disproportionate amounts of welfare. Hence WN’s voting fiscally conservative. But then Trump promises National Socialism, and that goes out the window…

        • Gay State Girl

          Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist extraordinaire.

        • Jason Y

          Well, that’s the catch. It was always sort of obvious that it coincided with the first baby steps towards a quasi-welfare state. But it wasn’t enough. There became paranoia about ‘Coloreds’ getting disproportionate amounts of welfare. Hence WN’s voting fiscally conservative. But then Trump promises National Socialism, and that goes out the window…

          Yeah all those chain smoking, food stamp collectng, pain pill popping, trailer dwellers don’t want their benefits taken away from them. 😆

          That’s actually true though. There is a lot of them who want government programs, but only for them.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        I for one am hoping for Clinton/Sanders …….
        it’s the only way to unite.
        and that Trump will clues-sly nominate some hot woman so that massive resentment among women is caused, and he hence loses their vote by a lot.
        Or Trump should nominate a minority, basically to cause his supporters to ditch him.
        Or Trump could nominate Ann Coulter, without vetting her (cuz his staff is incompetent), and the outlets reveal she’s actually a dude.

        • Gay State Girl

          I could vote for Clinton/Sanders, but Bernie’s gone off the deep end.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          in what way?

        • Gay State Girl

          Just when he started to get to close to BLM and that stupid speech he gave about whites not knowing poverty.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          He does have a point to a certain extent, but “Whites not knowing poverty” is basically not true.

        • Another William Playfair Web

        • Another William Playfair Web

          I’m not an oracle, but here’s our future.
          Hillary wins, yet is a do-nothing President/ establishment hack.

          The Republican party eventually becomes synonymous with what is now the Alt-Right, but does shed some members (repulsed by racism).
          The guard has changed, they have not experienced an election before, etc. so they lose seats in Congress and the 2020 primaries for President are another clusterfuck.
          But Hillary faces another leftist challenger(perhaps Liz Warren) and the Dems fall apart too, so perhaps 2020 ends up being a 4 way race(Neo-Cons put on someone)?
          But if it goes to the House (no candidate gets an electoral majority), they elect Hillary again and the anger continues. By 2024 there will be widespread violence.
          It will be all the anger we see now, except POC openly expressing it, plus the Trumpkins brooding, and Neo Cons angry they’ve been left out to dry.

          I will be taking an international job by Summer 2020, I can tell you that!

  12. Another William Playfair Web

    The more left a people’s economic system, the more advanced they are, to a certain extent, generally speaking.
    #fact

  13. Jason Y

    Tha alt left seems like the disco backlash. Some left wing white people are scared of gays, blacks etc.., afraid they might turn into those things, so they turn to the alt left. Am I off base here?

    • Nobody is afraid they are going to turn gay. Why would a White person be afraid they are going to turn Black?

      • Jason Y

        They did in the Disco Sucks movement.

      • Jason Y

        Whites can’t turn into blacks or gays generally, with the exception of wiggers etc.. However, music like early rock and roll, disco, and rap has been seen as a threat by some people because it can get mass popularity with all races, hence leading to a situation where boundries between races can dissolve.

        Of course, always a big white racist fear is that white women will get raped or will date a black guy, hence why so many people opposed integrated schools etc..

        • Jason Y

          One big problem I see in South Korea and other nations now, is that many of them feel their culture is threatened and bitch about it, but they keep importing foreigners. They especially see Americans as a cultural threat.

          Mainly cause American culture is seen as free and disintegrates moral values etc.. and leads to a breakdown between walls of different cultures.

    • All White men dislike gay men somewhat and most White men are leery around gay men. That’s called NORMAL.

      Most White people are afraid of Blacks. Being afraid of Blacks is called NORMAL.

      It’s normal for straight men to be afraid of gay men.
      It’s normal for Whites to be afraid of Blacks.

      If you are straight or White and not afraid of gays or Blacks, then that is what is abnormal.

      • Jason Y

        Whites are scared of a group of blacks, but they can easily get away from them, in most cases. Considering this fact, there isn’t any movement among most whites to deport blacks out of the nation.

        I find your comment about gays interesting and funny cause my brother has a wife who likes disco and is very tolerant, but my brother hates disco, and generally rap, and is a little bit latent racist despite being liberal. Prince died and his wife commented that his husband didn’t know who Prince was. But he did know, who doesn’t? He simply thnks prince is a flaming gay and hates him for that reason.

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