On the Ethnic Slur “Mexicants”

William Playfair Web writes:

Although Jared Taylor is including a token MexicanT (White) as a speaker, so I guess they’re not all bad…

Why do you call them Mexicants? That’s so racist! That sort of racism is just disgusting. It makes me ill.

The proper and non-offensive way to refer to this group is Latrinos. In fact, I believe this is how they refer to themselves!

We should be kind and sensitive to needs of marginalized people of color laboring under the weight of late capitalism and White supremacy. We should not use racial slurs that attack these people and cause microaggressions and other psychological injuries. It is especially cruel to use racial slurs at someone when they are outside of their safe spaces and especially vulnerable. The use of a term such as “Mexicants” simply reeks of White privilege!

You know as well as I do that only White people can be racist because racism is an abuse of power. People of color have no power due to White supremacy, hence they cannot possibly be racist. Makes perfect sense, right?

As White people, we have a duty to fight racism. It is not enough to sit idly by and simply not be racist yourself. It is incumbent on White people to not only not engage in racism, but to fight racism. Not fighting racism is racist in and of itself! But really one must go further. Recall the words of Rabbi Noel Ignatiev that it is Whiteness itself that must be abolished. So it is incumbent on White people to not only fight racism themselves but also to go that one extra step and do their own part to abolish Whiteness – one must renounce Whiteness itself. Simply put, White people must stop being White.

In addition, we Whites are all deeply afflicted with racism due to our upbringing in a viciously White supremacist society. So in a way, all of us Whites are racist, maybe deep down inside. It is our job as Whites to constantly do battle with our own conscious and unconscious racism. That is what Whiteness Studies classes are for after all. We must be alert to our own microagressions and stop them as soon as we are aware of them. We must always remember that  most important thing we can do as Whites is to check our privilege.

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149 responses to “On the Ethnic Slur “Mexicants”

  1. Tulio

    What is the alt-left position on legal and illegal immigration?

    • jorge

      About what you said about guns in United Kingdom (I don’t know why I can’t answer to you under this comment), hooligans don’t are interested in guns, this is precisely what they hate about gangsters, their cowardice for usings guns and attacking in superiority of conditions.

      The same in all Europe, hooligans/ultras think in that way.

      In South America there are ferocious “hooligans” (called “barras bravas” in plural, and “barrabravas” in singular) also, especially in Argentina and Uruguay (where biggest football clubs, and also many medium and even some small ones in Argentina, have “barras bravas” that are like almost small “armies”), and, less, in Chile, Paraguay, Brazil and Colombia, but are much more “gangsterized” since 90s, a thing that European ones criticize very much. And here aren’t politized with ideologies like in Europe.

      In fact, in Argentina and Uruguay this type of groups that in United Kingdom are called firms (in plural, beause hooligan is how is called each individual member), are oldest, because started in the 50s, while in United Kingdom started in 60s. In the rest of Europe started in the 70s, and in the rest of South America in the 80s and 90s.

  2. Jason Y

    Generally speaking, racist cowards especially want to attack other races when they’re alone, and/or if they happen to be a weak member of their race, say a skinny black person, or a retarded Mexican or something. Some funny sarcasm here, but actually true.

  3. It is not enough to sit idly by and simply not be racist yourself. It is incumbent on White people to not only not engage in racism, but to fight racism. Not fighting racism is racist in and of itself! But really one must go further. Recall the words of Rabbi Noel Ignatiev that it is Whiteness itself that must be abolished. So it is incumbent on White people to not only fight racism themselves but also to go that one extra step and do their own part to abolish Whiteness – one must renounce Whiteness itself. Simply put, White people must stop being White.

    In addition, we Whites are all deeply afflicted with racism due to our upbringing in a viciously White supremacist society. So in a way, all of us Whites are racist, maybe deep down inside. It is our job as Whites to constantly do battle with our own conscious and unconscious racism. That is what Whiteness Studies classes are for after all. We must be alert to our own microagressions and stop them as soon as we are aware of them. We must always remember that most important thing we can do as Whites is to check our privilege.

    Man, I don’t know why more Whites aren’t signing up for all of this self-flagellation!

    • Another William Playfair Web

      we Whites are all deeply afflicted with racism due to our upbringing in a viciously White supremacist society
      I’m pretty much not Alt anything, but that is a gross exaggeration.
      That’s been obliterated in about the last 50 years.
      At most, pockets of such exist, which can be fairly easily cut down…

  4. Jason Y

    Wouldn’t the word be Mexi-cunts You know like Ameri-cunts that favorite of hipster soccer hooligans everywhere.

    • jorge

      Out of topic, what is a “hipster soccer hooligan”?

      Because I know of hipsters, and I know of football (soccer for you) hooligans, but this combination it’s almost impossible. It’s like say “nazi hippie” or something like that.

      • Jason Y

        A trendy anti-American British soccer fan.

        Nazi hippie? Wasn’t that Charles Manson? Ever notice the line between hippies, Nazis, White Zombie, and The Devil’s Rejects has become more blurry since the 60s.

        • jorge

          Well, for what I read on internet, many British are “anti-American” in sports. But I don’t know if are “trendy” or what, because football is popular in all social classes in United Kingdom (and I think that a hipster is more somebody from middle class to above). In fact, football’s popularity declines in upper class (the same happens here and in many other countries like Uruguay, Chile, South Africa, etc.), although I think that remain being the main sport (in this social class) there.

          Probably you said “hooligan” like a joke (because obviously it’s impossible find a hipster football hooligan). I have some problems to understand sarcasm in other languages (for read and write here I help myself with Google’s translator).

          And about Charles Manson, well, he is a special case (a sociopath). A hippie obviously never will be a nazi. And I don’t know what is a White Zombie (I know about a rock and roll band and a movie with that name) or The Devil’s Rejects.

        • Jason Y

          I think Tulio brought up in one his comments that people from the Brit Isles are either Wigger type punks (in a euro fashion though) or they probably some preppie type. In America though, the whites are either preppie types or they are the farmer/hunter type. The black wannabe types are kind of a freakish minority.

          So hooligans are these really angry Euro punks that hate pretty much everybody and they like to drink a lot, kind of like skinheads.

        • jorge

          Well, I think it is not correct categorize an entire population with this characteristics.

          In United Kingdom exist all social classes too, and, besides maybe there are many “punk wannabes”, also there are many “true” (probably many more), in fact, punk subculture began in London’s working class/underclass neighborhoods in 70s.

          Other subcultures like skinheads, neds and chavs also are associated with working class, and maybe not so much with underclass like punk, but also a bit, especially neds and chavs.

          And yes, this kind of people many times liked drink a lot and look for trouble on streets.

          About hooligans, most part come from working class/underclass (today usually are not part of none subculture, but there are some skinheads and punks), but also there are some from middle class and a few from upper class. Maybe the last two have some “punk wannabes”, but is unusual for hooligans of this social classes. They usually are “casuals”, that is like a little subculture into hooligan “world”. They are fashionable hooligans who like dress “well” (but in a sporting way, not formal obviously). And their violence is like all hooligan violence, that has to do with pride and “tribal feelings” with each football club.

          They consider that gangsters are cowards (especially American ones that they can see on TV) because they use guns, while in Europe, hooligans and ultras fight very hard with their hands (although it is not uncommon throwing bottles and stones or to use sticks and chains, but not in pacted fights).

        • Tulio

          Jason, the people you are referring to are called chavs and scallies. Not sure if they are influenced by blacks or not. They are pretty much the British equivalent of the Slavic gopnik.

        • Jason Y

          OK, I guess that’s what they are.

        • jorge

          Well, maybe there are some “chav wannabes”, but, in most cases, chavs really are from poor backgrounds, maybe not so much like punks, but definitely are from lower social classes.

          Middle-class and upper-class people hate them, even many working-class and underclass people that don’t like this subculture. And this subculture is popular today, like were punks in 70s and 80s.

        • Jason Y

          So the chavs think people using guns are cowards. But why not use a gun? Why waste time with fist. It’s kind of like Indiana Jones shooting the swordsman with a pistol.

        • Jason Y

          I don’t really like them cause I ran into so many teaching English in Korea. It’s because I’m a nice guy, which in their world is a massive target, You seem as an idiot, or gay or something to most of them. It’s like they think you have some disorder and they will talk to you as though you commited a crime or some bad parenting in the past made you a wuss or something.

          Oh, also in America the same kind of guys you see often, and I’d rather avoid them.

        • Tulio

          Here’s a short documentary on Scallies. If you are comparing these type of people to hipsters you clearly don’t know what a hipster is.

        • Jason Y

          Relationships with chavs or their equivelent in the USA never work cause they always talk down to you. They think everyone who isn’t like them is stupid. Basically it’s not a siutation of mutual respect. So it’s no shock nobody likes them.

          Well, you know I’m a guy though, and even though nicer than most, I do like to joke around and stuff like guys do, but the chavs sarcasm is very dark and angry. Therefore encounters with them are not of the joking variety, but rather the fighting type.

        • Jason Y

          Oh I definitely know the type and generally I can’t go 1 or 2 days without wanting to burn them alive They’re so fucking annoying. They’re annoying even when your not on their bad side.

        • Jason Y

          No, hipsters are these beard wearing guys at universities. Scallies or American scallies are just these really uneasy angry punks. But don’t get the wrong, some of them are smart and even college educated.

        • jorge

          You did not understand me.

          Hooligans are who think that American gangsters (and gangsters in general) are coward because they use guns, and that without it they are pussies.

          In fact, beyond if are nazis, leftists, apolitical, etc., I think that almost all hooligans/ultras can win easily in hypothetical fights (without guns) against gangsters. More than “kill” enemies, hooligans/ultras try to show that they are stronger. And all this is relationated to passion and “tribal feelings” that they have (in a violent way) for each football clubs.

          I don’t know what chavs think about gangsters, but they are much more similar to them and are infamous for have similar “coward” techniques, like attacking being more quantity, knife use, attack “weak” people, etc.

        • Tulio

          Guns aren’t nearly as easy to get a hold of in Britain like they are in the states.

    • TJF

      To Jason Y:

      Wouldn’t the word be Mexi-cunts You know like Ameri-cunts..
      That’s a slur..? How sad, I have to say that I am partial to both American and Mexican (the human female variety) vaginas.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        Women from North Mexico (more Euro genes) are pretty good looking………Mixed race women are some of the most beautiful/desired these days, in East Asia and of course in the U.S., Asian-White Mixes are the gold standard.

        • Jason Y

          I still don’t get the word “mexicant” What is he getting at there? I know mexi-cunt.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          MexicanT, as in they can’t do stuff/are incompetent.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          “can’t” is they key part of course…
          I did make it up independently of others, but
          My mind just don’t operate thinking of things like “Mexicunt”…

        • “can’t” is they key part of course…
          I did make it up independently of others, but
          My mind just don’t operate thinking of things like “Mexicunt”…

          Looks like somebody already beat you to it. Mexicant has been around for years now.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Yeah, it’s been around, I’d just never seen it when I thought of it.
          It’s really pretty stupid to be quite honest…

        • Another William Playfair Web

          It’s a favorite of satire site Trumpbart (mocking Breitbart’s love of Trump),
          i.e. “Cruze is a tricky, theivy MexicanT”

        • Another William Playfair Web

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Daniel_Johnson

          “No person shall be a citizen of the United States unless he is a non-Hispanic white of the European race, in whom there is no ascertainable trace of Negro blood, nor more than one-eighth Mongolian, Asian, Asia Minor, Middle Eastern, Semitic, Near Eastern, American Indian, Malay or other non-European or non-white blood, provided that Hispanic whites, defined as anyone with an Hispanic ancestor, may be citizens if, in addition to meeting the aforesaid ascertainable trace and percentage tests, they are in appearance indistinguishable from Americans whose ancestral home is in the British Isles or Northwestern Europe. Only citizens shall have the right and privilege to reside permanently in the United States.”
          — William Daniel Johnson (as "James O. Pace"), Amendment to the Constitution[7]
          

          Shoutout from, someone who is, according to CNN, a Trump delegate!
          hooray!

        • Another William Playfair Web

          “No person shall be a citizen of the United States unless he is a non-Hispanic white of the European race, in whom there is no ascertainable trace of Negro blood, nor more than one-eighth Mongolian, Asian, Asia Minor, Middle Eastern, Semitic, Near Eastern, American Indian, Malay or other non-European or non-white blood, provided that Hispanic whites, defined as anyone with an Hispanic ancestor, may be citizens if, in addition to meeting the aforesaid ascertainable trace and percentage tests, they are in appearance indistinguishable from Americans whose ancestral home is in the British Isles or Northwestern Europe. Only citizens shall have the right and privilege to reside permanently in the United States.”

          (What he said according to wikipedia).

        • Gay State Girl

          They don’t realize they’re being played like a goddamn fiddles. That’s the only reason I tolerate Trump flirting with the #altright.

  5. Another William Playfair Web

    Guys,
    It was a joke.
    I was parodying them
    I’m Iberian/Portuguese/White Hispanic.
    I’m allowed to say it🙂

    • Gay State Girl

      I gotta find a way to dig up my own murky past ancestry so that I can make jokes as well! Of course that is difficult as I won’t allow anyone to sequence my genome.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        I love satire, especially self-hating satire, Jews are dominant in both of those things (lol).
        I watch the Boondocks. Mockery of crazy racist delusions is funny.
        South Park is also good with it’s characters describing to the crazy Jewish conspiracies (one of the writers);https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0IXsACBRco (the good stuff is 0:24 on).
        Or this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlhE3aTk7o0

        I’ not Mestizo, but I spend figuratively half my time on here defending the Mestizos! I don’t know why Robert would call me out like that….

        • Gay State Girl

          Like this?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_antisemitic_cartoons_contest

          I’d love to see a way that they can coordinate it to prove Jews are Pharisee killers of Christ, barbaric Khazar phallic worshippers, and Templars all rolled into one.

          I think that’s a job for Jews.

        • Jason Y

          I think a lot of the Jew stereotypes involve being a cheapskate. So do Jews pay low wages, give lousy tips etc.. ??

        • Another William Playfair Web

          On April 6, the winner was announced on the contest homepage: “Fiddler on the Roof.” It depicted a fiddler on the Brooklyn Bridge during the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center.

          Holy shit! I love the Fiddler on the Roof, and that is such a grossly offensive mockery, that is HILARIOUS!
          Satire at it’s finest

        • Another William Playfair Web

          GSG-
          I just thought of something;
          Do Neo-Nazis have a hard time finding Dentists, Doctors and Lawyers?
          It seems like they would…🙂

        • Gay State Girl

          What’s the difference b/w a a jew and an antisemite?

          Antisemite hate the the jewish collective, but love their jewish doctor, lawyer, accountant, and constantly point out jews that they like.

          Jews love the jewish people, but can’t stand the typical jew!

        • Another William Playfair Web

          that’s true!
          One I’ve heard;
          What do you call a Mexican with no car?
          Joa-quin(g)!!!

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Some Spanish pronounce a “uin” ending as if it’s “uing”

        • Another William Playfair Web

          “Baseball recruiters need to stop ignoring the Palestinian territories”

          Baseball recruiter to Palestinian Boy: “I didn’t catch your name, son, but how would you like to stop throwing at Jews, and start throwing for one.”
          -Bill Maher

    • jorge

      Well, at least that you are Mexican, you are not “allowed” to say this. But if is a joke it’s fine I think…

      Worse is when I read some comments here telling “savages” (or another disrespectful terms) to Amerindians or indigenous peoples.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        Indeed.
        It was a humble Joke.
        I’m SURE the guy was White, it’s Jared Taylor that was letting him speak, I mean seriously.

        I have defended the Mestizos.
        I, with the exception of perhaps Jason, is the only one challenges EPGAH when he says stuff like that!

      • Jason Y

        Savages only exist on John Wayne movies where they surround covered wagons full of lilly white WASPs.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Jason-
          You get called out for not being Alt-Right/HBD enough.
          Do you think I come across as a racist?

        • Jason Y

          Epgah loves to use the word savage, as much as your typical black likes the word honkie. I think better language is appropriate here, one that gives people a little more humanity.

        • Jason Y

          Ep-gah uses the word savage as much as a black uses the word honkie. I think better language which give more humanity would be more appropriate.

        • Jason Y

          What does EPGAH mean anyhow? It’s it some WN code language?

        • Jason Y

          If anything skinheads look like savages far worse than any Amerindians ever dreamed. They’re just a fucking scary looking group.

        • jorge

          I don’t know, it’s the user name that used somebody in some comments here.

          And, for what I remember, was not “EPGAH”, was “EPAGH”.

        • jorge

          Well, one thing is how you look, and another thing is how you act.

          And many urban subcultures try to look tough in some way (skinheads, punks, hip hoppers, metalheads, bikers, etc.).

          But being part of some of this subcultures don’t mean that you will be a criminal or anything. There are many “normal” skinheads, bikers, etc., but obviously, even being “good”, in most part of cases they are well prepared for problems.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          I found him;
          https://www.facebook.com/jeremiah.epgah

          hahahahahahahahahaha

        • Jason Y

          Jason-
          You get called out for not being Alt-Right/HBD enough.
          Do you think I come across as a racist?

          Alt right and left is about power. If your dealing with power than the alt. left is correct, if your dealing with truth, then you just shoot yourself LOL

          It’s kind of like how you’d listen to AC/DC when you want to get fucked, and REM when you want to think philosophically.

          Generally the world is a mean, dirty place so it usually boils down to cave men over the nice guys.

        • Jason Y

          No, the alt left and right are about maintaining civilization, even at the cost of hurt feelings etc.. Unfortunately, that’s how the world works folks. I don’t know anywhere on the world which operates on actual truth, as opposed to some scheme which forces respect.

          Nonetheless, even in a forced respect society, people need to lighten up at times.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        Indeed.
        I defend the Mestizo and Amerind, (just look at 6 posts ago), and CAN’T STAND commenter “EPGAH”, they guy who says that stuff.

        I’m prejuidice against Mexicans.
        Give me a break.

        I even hate Donald Trump (despite him having Yuge respect for the Mexican people);
        https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/05/08/donald-trump-the-concept-of-social-intelligence/#comments

        • Dude! This whole post was one giant troll! It’s not even serious! There’s not even one serious thing in this whole post here.

          It’s a put on! This post isn’t even real, William!

        • Gay State Girl

          I am secretly rooting for Trump’s victory because I’d love to be able to hide my Guatemalan domestics in my basement. I have a bit of munchausen and a hero complex and I’ve always fantasized about that, having growing up on a steady diet of Holocaust stories.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          In addition, we Whites are all deeply afflicted with racism due to our upbringing in a viciously White supremacist society

          I thought that was sort of odd, but you could have like just broken up with your girlfriend and were overly touchy today or something,
          lol

        • Another William Playfair Web

          “*Recall the words of Rabbi Noel Ignatiev that it is Whiteness itself that must be abolished. *”

          Oh yeah, it definitely is.
          I skim, don’t read. I’ll admit it.

        • Jason Y

          There is some element of truth in the post, though it’s generally a troll job.

          Ultimately the biggest fallacy is that harsh racism comes from all directions, not just the white one Mostly the white thing is because western Euro whites are associated with colonialism etc,,

      • Another William Playfair Web

        I consistently defend the Amerinds from such accusations!!!!!!!!!

        • jorge

          I didn’t said that you call them like this. I only mention because I read things like this in some comments here, but not from you. Idon’t remember very well but I think that was EPAGH (or something like this) and maybe, in some comments (and less disrespectful), S.D.

        • Jason Y

          What does EP-GAH mean anyhow? Is it some WN code language?

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Thanks Jorge.

  6. Another William Playfair Web

    I’m the one that’s been defending the Mestizos claiming,as, by nature, they are less violent!!!!!!!!!!!
    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/05/03/crime-levels-and-types-in-an-hispanic-neighborhood/

  7. Another William Playfair Web

    I have the most Pro-Mestizo/Pro-Amerind record of almost anyone here!
    Here’s another example; https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/17/were-native-americans-too-smart-to-be-slaves/#comments

    This is slightly offensive!

  8. Gay State Girl

    I refer to myself as a crip.

  9. Jason Y

    Actually some whites are deeply affected by racism growing up in a white supremacist society, but the same could be said for other races growing up without diversity.

  10. TJF

    To Robert:

    No no no — Per Our Lord and Savior ™ Tim Wise – Latrinos sounds too much like a bad ghetto name or a GM automobile.

    The following video illustrates the correct way to address people of Mexican descent:

  11. Another William Playfair Web

    Maybe I’m a cuck, but Whites at many points were Dicks in history, especially New World History.

    However, other races would have been the same, the Chinese would be more methodical/less sympathetic, the Blacks simply more violent.
    So all in all it’s okay.

    Remember Kids, Jews like Hernan Cortes enslaved the Aztecs, Jews enslaved the Blacks in America, and Donald Trump is a secret Jew!

    • Jason Y

      The Aztecs weren’t so great they practiced human sacrifice, but as liberals would say, “We can excuse it cause it was their culture”.

  12. S.D.

    William there ARE NO JEWS in Northern Scotland where Trump’s parents were born.

    Donald Trump probably has little interest in the men who work in his subsidiary accounting departments or casinos that happen to be African-American or Jewish.

    I suspect his agnostic Protestant like most Scots.

    • Another William Playfair Web

      I was joking.
      How do you know that’s where Trump’s parents really come from?

      Do you honestly think Marco Rubio is really Cuban?
      More like Eastern European Jew Mark Rubenstein.

      • Gay State Girl

        Will you marry me?

        • Another William Playfair Web

          I don’t know, nice Jewish couples are often victimized, by their own people. Only Jewish comedians would exploit their own!;

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Even in the younger years, it’s rough;

        • Gay State Girl

          I’ll forgive the 2% Sephardic in you.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          Sephardis don’t seem to quite be the same, not as many here, and even if they were, I doubt they’d be as prominent.

          I’m pretty sure Jerry Seinfeld is Half-Sephardic, Half-Ashkenazi, however…
          There are conspiracies that the Israelis want to get rid of the median lesser-intellect Ethiopian Jews.

          Every Jewish family I knew was actually mixed goy and Jewish, as far as I know. There didn’t seem to be massive problems…..

        • Gay State Girl

          Have you lived outside West Virginia/Virginia?

  13. S.D.

    Aren’t Mexicans also the descendants of the dregs of Spain. Sailors, rapists dragged off the streets of Madrid, prostitutes, beggar gangs, debtors, vagrants.

    Aztec females found them irresistible and were endlessly shafted by Spanish (And presumably Spanish female prostitutes were shafted as well).

    Isn’t the entire group the product of bastardy.

    • jorge

      Where did you get that “Aztec females found them irresistible”?

    • Jason Y

      Isn’t that always the thing layed against immigrants? OK, Irish and Italians etc.. were the losers of Europe going to America. Nowadays, foreign ESL teachers are losers who can’t make it in the west going to South Korea., at least that’s a stereotype popular in Asia.

      No, I don’t think the Spaniards were losers, but just ordinary citizens looking for a better life.

  14. S.D.

    JORGE Well today’s Ladino is the product of white males having a non-stop orgy with Aztecs in the desert.

    Why else would they call them mestizo?

    • Another William Playfair Web

      Well today’s Ladino is the product of white males having a non-stop orgy with Aztecs in the desert.
      HA!

  15. jorge

    I think that simply Spaniards started to be part of population in the region in those times, and some Amerindians mixed naturally with them, not because were “irresistible”.

    And I never heard about “non-stop orgies”.

    Also there were rapes.

    And remember that Mexicas (Aztecs) are only one of many indigenous peoples in the region that today is Mexico. Many other nations were under oppression of Mexicas, so they (oppressed) hated them and helped Spaniards to fight against them. In fact, almost all warriors that fought against Mexicas and destroyed their empire were from different indigenous nations, while Spaniards were less than 1000 and were almost “observers” of battles.

    So, at least in first times, Spaniards were allies for many peoples of that region and they had no problems in mix with them.

  16. S.D.

    80% of the population of Mexico possesses Spanish genes (Except tiny pockets in the South).

    A great many Red women seemed to have craved the White penis in Mexico.

    Rape? It is hard to believe that 80% of a population would result in rape. The Spanish would not have had time to run their colony if they had been that preoccupied.

    • jorge

      Do not misunderstand me. I never said that all or most part of mix between Spaniards and indigenous were because rapes, simply I mentioned that there were some rape like in every invasion.

      And in those times there were not social classes like today, so there were not relations because social status (at least in that way).

      Today many Amerindian women desire white men because social status, besides highly influence of “Western” beauty racist canons that infect people’s mind and culture worldwide through mainstream media.

      But there is much mix between white women and Amerindian men into low social classes, at least in Argentine, where are many whites into working-class and underclass. Here for example I have many direct examples. I know a girl that is blonde and “pure” white , descendant of Eastern Europeans that live in a small rural neighborhood (or village) nearby to my city (a mid-sized city) that had a relationship with a “pure” Amerindian guy that is descendant of Bolivians (third generation) who live in the city. And Bolivians maybe are the most discriminated foreigner minority, there are many cruel and racist concepts about their Amerindian look. Both are from working class and they had a daughter that now have two years. There are many examples like this, especially in working class and underclass. In this social classes, more than white men, girls seek middle-class/upper-class men, and they have no problem with their race (also not in the case of men from their same social class).

      I’m talking about Argentina and especially about the northeast (where is my province, Misiones), where are many German, Polish and Ukrainians minorities, that are almost “pure”. And this region is the poorest of the country. Maybe is for this, but there are a high number of white women with Amerindian men.

      Also, in the last decade and a half, began to be many relationships between middle class girls and working class boys, thing that before was more difficult. And this obviously implies many couples between white girls and Amerindian boys.

      And middle-class/upper-class women here, that are the whitest, love the typical “Latin lovers”, like soap opera actors or bachata/salsa/pop/reggaeton singers from Colombia, Venezuela or Central America, who usually are very “mongrel” (many dark-whites and light-blacks/light-Amerindians).

      About Brazil, the past year an aunt of mine and his husband went on vacation to some beaches in the north of the country and told me that there were many “mixed” couples between whites and blacks in both types (black men with white women/black women with white men). Probably in the south (withest region) is not like this, there is more discrimination there.

  17. S.D.

    JORGE You rarely see Spanish Criollo women married to Amerindian or Black men in Latin or Central America.

    Is this frowned upon in Latin America?

    Why do pale brunettes like Penelope Cruz not seen with Danny Trejo Ladinos or Afro-Caribbeans?

    • jorge

      I answered about white women/Amerindian men question, at least in Argentina, and a little about white women/black men in Brazil.

      About Caribbean countries, most part of people there are very mixed whites (like in the case of Puerto Rico or Cuba) or very mixed blacks, like in Dominican Republic. This implies black-white mix.

      And about “famous” couples, I don’t know much in that issue in Central America/South America, at least outside of Argentina.

      But searching a bit in Google, easily I found pictures like this (in most cases, I don’t know who they are).

      In fact, look the Danny Trejo’s wife.

      And this are Latin American football players and their girlfriends/wifes (and some of women are famous also, at least in their countries, and many of men are not “first class” players or “stars”).

      Or look some Argentine quite famous couples (in almost half of cases both are famous).

      I will stop here because I’m tired of searching pictures.

      And I put mainly about football players because is what I know better (I am a football fan), but also there are infinite cases of actors, artists, etc.

      • jorge

        This are the rest of pictures of Argentine couples (did not loaded the first time).

      • Jason Y

        So I’m wondering if Portuguese and Spaniards have a heavy Celtic element, like the French. Are they mostly of Celtic origin?

        • Another William Playfair Web

          I got my ftDNA (it matches you up with individuals who have your same Y-DNA markers), and got extrapalting the unknowns (since the accuracy was at 50% for seven generations back, and it only gave 69 people, plus 21 were Americans who had no idea where there family came from),
          I/he (just shows his side) got roundabouts of
          63% British Isles
          13% German
          06% Scandinavian
          04% Dutch
          04% Eastern European
          04% French
          02% Italian
          02% Iberian
          02% Jews who lived at one point in the Iberian peninsula.

          Wow!
          My dad is Cuban-American with a Portuguese surname.
          Unexpectedly Northern European.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          I’m pure European, from what I know/have extrapolated..
          I challenge commenter “EPGAH” to produce his results.

  18. S.D.

    JORGE

    Ricky Martin white Hispanics can be seen with a load of Mulatto or Mestizo women hanging off them.

    …but you do not see pale Spanish brunettes like Penelope Cruz hand-in-hand with Ladinos like Danny Trejo.

    Is this frowned up in Latin America?

  19. S.D.

    JORGE

    In the Southwest bad areas you see some prostitution activity involving Hispanic females.

    They are all clearly Ladino or Amerindian Mestizos.

    You never see pale Spanish brunettes like Penelope Cruz working the streets of the barrio as street prostitutes. They are all Mestizos or Mulatto.

    Is there a reason for this?

    • jorge

      White women that go to United States are from middle-class/upper-class, while those that you sau are from working-class and, especially, underclass.

      An Amerindian women from middle-class (or simply from any social class that is self-sufficient) never would go to United States to prostitute herself.

      By the way, in Pampean region of Argentina in late 19th century/early 20th century, most part of prostitutes were European immigrants (while women Japanese, Armenians, Arabs, Syrians and Lebanese were non-existent into prostitution, even if were quite poor).

  20. Hasdrubal

    I thought is was just a play off of the line “I’m not an Americant but an American” which is a joke about people giving trite patriotic speeches.
    As a general rule I avoid racial slurs unless it’s needed for a joke.

  21. S.D.

    JORGE’S RESPONSE I lived in a working-class district of Phoenix, Arizona at one time.

    Of the Hispanic drug-addicted women working the streets I observed that all of them were Amerindian or of predominant Amerindian ancestry-almost to the point where they looked like U.S reservation Amerindians.

    Mexicans and Latinos who resembled Ricky Martin and possessed less Amerindian blood held jobs, were less likely to belong to gangs or engage in random street violence against strangers or to be drug addicts.

    Heroin-addicted homeless drug addicted Hispanics tended, like Danny Trejo, to appear to be much more Amerindian.

    My question is why lighter-skinned Mestizos tend to be higher earners and wealthier in the United States itself.

    • jorge

      Indigenous from United States that I saw, don’t seem very Amerindian to me. Most part are clearly very mixed, in fact, there are some whites and a few blacks between them also. Average Mexicans seems more Amerindian.

      And I can’t talk very well about something that I never saw, but I think that is like I said before, that Amerindians usually come from poorer backgrounds.

      But, into lower classes, at least here, there aren’t differences between Amerindian and white behaviors. In every comment you try to establish that whites always have better behavior than all other races. As minimum, not have to be necessarily like this.

      And, like I said before, for what I saw to the distance, Mexican gangsters usually seems whiter that average Mexicans.

      But not for this I will generalize an entire race.

      • Jason Y

        So what skinhead look just as, well as Ep-gah would put it, SAVAGE. Well, anyhow at least for most of the 2010s tatoos were cool and in style, and a lot of tattoos were the desired fashion.

  22. “We must always remember that most important thing we can do as Whites is to check our privilege.”

    That’s like saying whites should check their intelligence. Power instils privilege and intelligence creates power. It’s ordained by nature. Why must the whites check their intelligence ? Must a 100m sprinter be ashamed of winning a race ?

    Unfortunately, life is not fair.

    • This was from another article of his with his thoughts on race

      “RL: The Alt Left would be a movement that is pro-White, likes Whites and White culture and values the people and the societies they create. Also at least my wing would be nonracist. I would say that we should be antiracist, but antiracism has been so taken over by insane people that I do not want to identify with it anymore.

      Not sure about the other wing – it looks White nationalist.

      I would say that non-Whites can join, but only if they like White people, White culture and the societies that Whites create. No White-haters allowed.”

      This article seems very different from what he typical believes in in accordance to whiteness.

      I’m pretty sure this was to be satire.

  23. S.D.

    Spain itself does not have a gang culture, it should be note.

    • Jason Y

      No, the Franco fascist gang drove everyone out.

    • jorge

      El Salvador did not had gangs until arrived to the country Salvadorans deported from United States that had formed gangs there.

      Typical gangs are a product of American culture.

      Mexico and Central America started to have gangs because cultural influence of United States.

      South America and Europa have another kind of gangs and are smaller. Most problematic in some South American countries are drug trafficker groups (I can’t call it “gangs”), that Mexico and Central America also has. This groups also have some activity in United States because immigrants.

      In some European countries, most problematic are mafias (also I can’t call it “gangs”). The same with China and Japan. Mafias arrived to United States with European and Asian immigrants.

      And also in South America and Europe there are organized groups that are like some kind of gangs related to football. In South America are called “barras bravas” (that means something like “brave bands”), in United Kingdom “firms” (hooligan is how is called each individual member of a firm), and in the rest of Europe, “ultras”.

      • Jason Y

        Good point. I was watching the Oliver Stone film Salvador/i> and saw no gangs on the movie. Also, I had traveled to another sort of Latin nation the Phillippines, and no gangs there either. Almost every place that has gangs has some close relation to US culture.

      • Jason Y

        Most Latino nations are very socially conservative, maybe even more so than conservative parts of the USA. Tattooed freaks and whatnot would be a circus attraction in those places. Generally, the gang stuff is simply some mimic of hip-hop culture in the US.

        One thing is for certain though, people that freakish looking are not getting jobs, not even if they work for peanuts for the most un-patriotic greedy companies around.

        • jorge

          About tattoos and that stuff, today is common and in all social classes, but for influence of mainstream culture. For example, some artists and athletes started with that and people copy from them.

          In low classes, tattos usually are smaller and more “amateur” (this originated in jails decades ago). Those big “artistic” tattoos (like that have David Beckham) are mainly of middle-class/upper-class people.

          Here we have many of the same subcultures that in United States/United Kingdom, obviously because cultural influence (punks, metalheads, hardcores, hip hoppers, hippies, bikers, skinheads, rude boys, skaters, gothics, greasers…), especially in big cities, although some, that are the most numerous of them (punks, metalheads, hippies and hip hoppers) also exist in mid-sized cities and even in some small cities and towns.

          Our “native” subcultures are influenced by American/British culture also.

          And about gangs, a big difference between American ones is that there exist an ridiculously easy access to guns, maybe that’s why they are bigger.

          Gangs in the rest of the world are less organized, except that who had American influence, like Mexican ones or Central American ones.

      • Jason Y

        No I don’t think I ever saw even one guy, much less a girl with a tattoo, even a small one anywhere in the Phillippines, and considering the poverty you’d think the whole place would be full of gangs, crime etc.. Well, there is some crime obviously, but it just isn’t like in the US.

  24. S.D.

    Cebu is probably more dangerous than Manila.

  25. Gay State Girl

    William

    My mother is South African and from a partially eurasian (Bukharan) background as well.

    • Another William Playfair Web

      My dad’s first wife was from South Africa. It’s one of the most physically beautiful countries in the world, especially Cape Town

      From what I could do/decipher, I’m 98% European, predominately Northwestern.

      • Another William Playfair Web

        South Africa needed to strike a balance, but they couldn’t. They had over three quarters of the country living in shanty towns. Not sustainable.
        Her parent’s were in the Mixed race/East Indian caste, her dad was a Physics professor and they lived in the Mixed area in Cape Town (still pretty nice), yet they still sided against Apartheid.

        Balance is key.
        Now the country’s crime rate is sky high, at least in certain cities.

        • Gay State Girl

          My grandparents lived in a working class neighborhood in Cape Town. My grandfather owned a store in a mixed Mulatto/Malaysian Muslim neighborhood, and experienced multiple robberies and violent and encounters-which is why my mother left South Africa’s version of the SDS.

        • Another William Playfair Web

          I see.
          The movies show every White South African as completely rich/loaded, but I guess that’s not true.
          I’m sure it’s terrible to live as a lone White in a South African neighborhood.

          If you look on google street view for some of the nice parts of Cape Town, you’ll see pretty much exclusively Whites out and about.

        • Gay State Girl

          My grandfather from a very modest family of coal miners. His father was Bukharan (eurasian jewish) origin, so was he was damn lucky to be considered white by apartheid government. My grandmother was Lithuanian Jewish-I guess she was too homely to secure a more successful ashkenazi husband. My great grandfather looked like Siddhartha. My mother looks like a hapa hybrid as well.

          I think they have since razed down the neighborhood where they lived, (as a lot of people have engaged in self deportation) and turned it into a deluxe resort.

    • Jason Y

      I wonder if Gay State’s SA backgrouind predisposes her toward liking blacks a little bit less. I knew a guy from SA also. He was teaching English in South Korea and he was to put it frank, not in touch with the enlightenment, even though he was strongly left wing.

      • Gay State Girl

        I don’t hate them. I haven’t been to SA since 1997. I’m more wary of them since I’ve seen the Cape Town slums, and heard stories and have family stories to back them up. But I live in whiteopia Massachusetts and most of the minorities that I have dealt with are pretty tame.

  26. Gay State Girl

    My Mother had a quite a few Indian and Malaysian Muslim friends back in South Africa. They were allowed to attend University and Medical School but only allowed to work on colored anatomy and organs.

    • Another William Playfair Web

      Well, that’s where I’m a libertarian. If the people are able/can do the work, why should they be discriminated against, especially in graduate school?
      That seems unnecessary.

      I think that’s part of the reason my ‘stepmom’s’ parent’s left, her dad was tired of the limitations placed on him in academia (much like why Ghandi left- the limitations on his legal career).

    • Another William Playfair Web

      Interesting that the first heart-to-heart transplant Surgeon was Anti-Apartheid….
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christiaan_Barnard

  27. S.D.

    Colon Street and Makati are fairly near in crime rates.

    Curiously the ruling families of Cebu are Mexican.

    When you see a Filipino with a Mexican white appearance you know that he probably has some influence and wealth.

    • Jason Y

      Has little to do with genetics. More likely being a mixed raced Filipino, he/she would be a source of money from outside the nation, hence giving them an advantage over the pure ones.

  28. S.D.

    JASON – NO GANGS IN THE PHILIPPINES! Fraternities are a huge problem in Cebu City and Makati even has Korean mafia.

    What are you talking about?

  29. S.D.

    Philippines does resemble a Latin Country in the sense that a pale Hispanic elite has the money and power, for the most part.

    Colon Street is dangerous by anybody’s standards.

    • Jason Y

      Having a tour guide helps out, but going it alone makes you a target cause your seen as alone. That is unless your carrying a visible weapon.

  30. S.D.

    JASON No, “Mestizos” still running the Philippines and in this way it is no different than Mexico.

    I would defy any foreigner to be safe on Colon Street at night or Makati. Provincial areas, as Filipinos refer to the rural ones, are probably safer.

    Poor Filipinos will rob you. In a hot minute.

    • Jason Y

      You have to buy out people just like anywhere else in the third world. In the city though it’s not possible.

  31. S.D.

    The home invasion is usually the crime that endangers the life of a foreigner in the Philippines.

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