An HBD Defense of the Caste System

Alright, so this argument depends entirely upon whether the Indians’ “Indian-ness” is cultural or racial. If it’s a matter of culture then have at, I still won’t care what they do in India, but I’d support you if you started a movement to quarantine garbage people with irrefutably garbage ideas.

If these societal problems are based on race, though, then either A) Indians are inherently immoral (which you do not believe on the grounds of racism I suppose, or because you’ve met decent Indians outside of the context of Indian culture) or B) there are biological differences between upper and lower caste Indians which influence them to act as they do. This only addresses the caste system but that seems to be a primary criticism of yours.

I don’t even know how we’d definitively answer that question. But we do know that there are genetic differences between upper and lower caste Indians, and that those differences are racial in origin. We know that upper caste Indians living in the West probably have a high average IQ; Indian Americans are largely descended from the upper castes, and they score in the ballpark of 112 on a short IQ estimator. We know that South African Indians are largely descended from indentured servants (wild guess: they probably weren’t Brahmins), and we know that their average IQ score is lower.

Importantly, these populations are relatively isolated from Indian culture, the caste system, and so on, and they both live in roughly first world environments – my bet as to why South African Indians have higher IQ’s than the average Indian but not as high as Indian Americans, is superior nutrition aka Flynn effect.

We’d need an adoption study to make the picture clearer. The question isn’t fully answered yet – but the data seem to suggest that there are significant biological differences between the various castes of India. Since we haven’t collected any data indicating that the biological differences between Indian castes are arbitrary (and we have collected some data to the contrary), we cannot rule out the possibility that upper caste Indians act as they do because of biological differences that are outside of their control.

If you knew that most people living in your city had a low IQ, and that it was possible, for all anybody knows at this point, that their average IQ would never approach that of your own population, would you want to live in their neighborhoods? Would you want your daughter marrying one? And if you were enough of an odd bird to sincerely want that, would it be a rational expectation to expect all of the other high IQ people in that city to conform to that standard? The only way a rational person would have that expectation is if they were entirely confident that there were no significant biological differences between the two populations.

And in order to be confident of that, you must be confident that A) the racial differences mentioned above could not possibly yield a significant difference in IQ or other important traits, and B) that it’s impossible for eugenic effects to achieve such effects. You’ve entertained the possibility that race can partially determine IQ, and that eugenics can work on other mammals.

This rant only addresses the alleged evils of the caste system, but then I can’t imagine totally ruling out the possibility that other “Indian evils” aren’t genetic as many HBD’ers believe the “Black evils” are.

Either way, much of your criticism of India is that they’re guilty of flagrant inequality, but you haven’t ruled out the possibility that there is a massive IQ gap between castes, and you further haven’t ruled out the possibility that this gap is partially genetic. I don’t think that we can say with absolute confidence that India could change anytime.

It’s not just that they practice inequality. Anyway, all Indians practice their shitty caste system. Maybe some of the Dalits refuse to practice it, but others will practice it for them.

I assume the 112 IQ is for the Brahmins. Brahmins are 5.5% of all Hindus. The other 95% all practice caste too.

There’s no rational reason for any of this, anyway, as the poor don’t really act worse than the rich or middle classes. Most everyone acts bad. However, poor people don’t act any worse than anyone else, and they may even act better as they are beaten and downtrodden and have to keep their heads down and not make waves.

Higher intelligence persons tend to move away from lower intelligence persons in most societies. They don’t need caste to keep the classes apart. Most high class people do not even want to go into low class neighborhoods, so there is not a lot to worry about slummers.

If my very smart daughter was high caste, and her Dalit boyfriend was very smart also, of course I would have no problems with her dating him.

Your argument is like saying Whites should separate from Blacks via caste (they already did under Apartheid and Jim Crow) because Blacks are so much less intelligent and so much more dangerous that we need to separate ourselves from them.

A few things:

Most Whites do not live in heavily Black areas. White people avoid Black neighborhoods like the plague. There’s no need for laws to separate them. Most Whites are not even attracted to Black people, so there is not a lot of interracial dating between Whites and Blacks. Blacks on good behavior blend in very well with Whites, and there is no reason to keep away from them. Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with Whites breeding with well-behaved Blacks. Intelligent Whites do not want to have much to do with low intelligence Blacks, as most of these Whites consider these Blacks to be horrible and do not want to have anything to do with them. Intelligent Blacks associating with intelligent Whites is of no concern.

Most mating is assortative anyway.

The high castes do something much worse than just practice casteism. I have never even seen an Indian person practice caste in my life, so that behavior has no effect on me.

Nevertheless, most of the Indians I have known were pretty awful human beings in many ways. Most were also good people too, but the bad was so bad that I didn’t want to have anything to do with them. Bottom line is most Indians and especially the high caste ones are more or less psychopaths. We have a similar complaint against ghetto Blacks in the US that many of them are sociopathic.

Cottoning to these Indians is like developing a fondness for ghetto Blacks. Their behavior is nasty, awful and repulsive. They lie, cheat and steal. They cannot be trusted. They are frighteningly racist in a very backwards way. They have a hatred of Whites and Christians that is near psychotic levels. They are wildly competitive. They will stab you in the back in a heartbeat. To most of them, you are just an obstacle on the way to success to be destroyed as you are in their path.

Their degrees are worthless, as all the universities are corrupt. They are unbelievably dirty people. Their callousness is sickening. Their nationalism has a weird, frightening almost unhinged feel to it. Most of them are full of hate. These are just soulless, blackhearted human beings. If you want to know what happens when a human society loses almost all of its values and becomes utterly degenerate and wicked, just look at India. It’s the end of the road for human behavior.

I really feel that we might want to keep these people out of our country or at least be skeptical of them. Perhaps we should weed them out carefully. If they are willing to abandon Indianness and join the West, they can come here. If they are bring Calcutta with them to my city, they need to GTFO, or better yet not even show up in the first place.

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76 responses to “An HBD Defense of the Caste System

  1. Jason Y

    A lot of times Indians might appear cool to Americans, just as South Koreans do, cause they massively worship worship white people to the point of ass kissing. However, to see the dark side, how they look down on anyone abnormal and/or non-white is to see the truth about them.

    However, most people, tend to fall for flattery so they can’t see the real them, much as they might fall for the flattery of a beautiful evil woman.

    • Jason Y

      Again though, such hateful repulsive behavior goes both ways. In many ways American people, depending on the area, can be just as shallow and racist. The official line is that the USA on the whole isn’t racist, but I don’t buy it. The US is incredibly racist and homophobic (from NYC to California to the south USA).

      For instance, I saw some rebel flags outside a Chinese restaurant (in the back of a pickup truck). i thought in my mind, “What if I went over there and tore up those flags, ripped them, broke them etc..? Of course, that would briing a harsh response, much as if you challenged Hindu caste.

      Believe me southern racism is as arrogant and shallow as Hindu caste. You can find out by just getting on their bad side. Probably the only good side to the south USA, is they are at least kind to white women and the disabled. You won’t find that in Asia, where it’s just all out un-political correctness.

      Anyhow, everybody seems to come down on Jewish political correctness, but it’s the only civilizing force in the world, even if sometimes it’s fake.

      • Jason Y

        Again an extreme example of challenging caste in the USA would have been when they drove out a black man/ white woman couple (with mixed kids) out of my mountain valley. Of course, this never got media attention, as the racists claim always happens in cross burnings and the like.

        So this thing in the USA is no joke, so we can only criticize India, Northeast Asia or any other such area to some degree without massive hypocrisy.

      • Genesis

        Again you comment like Mr PC. textbook definition. If you in live in such a white area and despise it. Why don’t u move to the wonderful colored inhabitated areas like Detroit memphis and Atlanta. I’m sure you’d be home at those areas with all the dindu muffins who are actively working to goodify that place.

        • Jason Y

          With all the white pill-heads around in my mountain valley, this place would rapidly go down just like the ghetto, if not for the police and gun carrying people.

      • EPGAH

        Political correctness is NOT a civilizing force. Indeed, it’s what’s stopping us from forcing civilization on the savages that keep invading our country. We can’t point out that they’re more criminal than us, let alone try to keep them out of our countries on that basis, right?

        Turn this around for a bit: What would happen if Whites broke into some savages’ countries and started breaking laws, let alone raping locals?

        And if you hate Whitedom so much, why don’t you go to the Savage Lands? You don’t even have to leave America, try Detroit, Chicago, or Baltimore? Maybe you secretly like the knowledge that you’re safe in the White mans’ land, no matter how much you bitch about the culture that keeps you safe here?

        • Jason Y

          As I mentioned in the above comment, I live in a savage white land. Pill-heads are roaming everywhere like zombies. Only the police and gun carrying citizens can protect some of us.

        • EPGAH

          Exactly, you don’t like the whites around you, you believe that the nonwhites are just victims, so why aren’t you moving to the land of the savage nonwhites?

          As to police and gun-carrying citizens, are you a gun-carrying citizen?
          If not, then do you “deserve” whatever you get?

        • EPGAH

          BTW, you forget that the gun-carrying citizens MIGHT be one of the zombies.

          Guns are just TOOLS, and can be used FOR good or evil, depending if they’re used BY good or evil.

          Or if you’re one of Those who don’t believe in Good&Evil, would you accept Order&Chaos?

  2. Ryan

    Does it make sense to use western nutrition to account for 13 points in IQ for blacks? What about the white admixture?

    I think the US Indian IQ is more around the same as the US Asian IQ.

  3. I feel like I’ve sufficiently played the Devil’s Advocate here. It seems pretty rational that a society with two average IQs two standard devs apart (82 and 112, with roughly a third of the gap being environmentally caused) would eventually develop a caste system, in my view. But you’re correct in saying that it may not be necessary.

    Some of your counterpoints as to the pointlessness of such a system in modern times are pretty good. In fact, I’ve told people that you could largely achieve segregation simply by ending Section 8 and similar programs and then waiting for the oil and vinegar to separate. End affirmative action and then only the meritorious Blacks will make the salary necessary to afford living in White neighborhoods, which I suppose isn’t the worst thing that could happen. (This assumption about price point may not matter in the socialist world you believe in but that’s a different topic.)

    Importantly, though, it’s more practical and likely that we’d have a voluntarist, meritocratic, comparatively libertarian approach to segregation, so it’s a smarter program to pursue. More practical from the perspective of a rightist HBDer and more ethical from the perspective of a Leftist HBDer. In my opinion, the caste system was the inevitable product of important biological differences, but it’s also something that in modern times could be done away with. If I’m correct, then India is living in the past, and your critiques of it are at least partially on the mark.

    As for the daughter marrying the high IQ Dalit (or for that matter the high IQ Black), I should point out that regression to the mean would take place, and that the grandkids might not necessarily identify with your culture. I don’t think that miscegenation is something to be encouraged (but then I’m 1/64th Choctaw and my IQ isn’t particularly low, so a low endemic level of admixture is something a population can probably withstand just fine).

    I do say I’m a fan of disallowing potential immigrants if they aren’t likely to help create the culture we want to live in, in any case, so I agree that we can keep Calcutta in Calcutta.

    • Jason Y

      One reason segregation is massively immoral is because there are just as many idiot whites as blacks. However, never in US history did anyone segregate for IQ apart from race.

      • Gay State Girl

        Does Academic streaming/tracking count as “segregation?”

      • It’s not just about IQ though. The Chinese still settle in Chinatown, even though they’re not far away from us Whites as it relates to IQ. Second generation, third generation will drift away from that, but the fact remains that IQ isn’t the only difference, real or perceived, between the races. I’d have more in common with a stupid White than a stupid Black anyhow.

        • Jason Y

          I suspect Northeast Asians believe they are superior to white people, even ones with an average white IQ. They definitely believe their culture is better. Yes, ironically, they always go for anything western, up to a point, especially Hollywood.

        • In my experience, they do tend to look down on us, even when they attend our university systems and do calculus with equations we invented. It’s obnoxious.

          My personal experience isn’t exactly statistically relevant, though.

    • That seems about right.

    • True, it operates by the family mean (Breeder’s Equation). But most Black family means will fall under White ones!

  4. Lin

    I can’t believe such defense of the caste system:

    –“Tell me the last time that you help a homeless.”

    In most welfare states, people help the homeless by paying relative high tax. Why do you assume people don’t do voluntary work to help the needy?

    –“You think a doctor deserves earn better than a teacher.* And than a working class profession***

    What’s this mean: ***? Some people deserve to earn more than others. People born in different castes = people work in different professions. Asymmetric meritocracy = caste system. That’s nonsense. Hindu caste identity is 99.9999% hereditary, and a hell lot more certain than the doctors’ children becoming doctors.

    A good example: My brother-in-law was a senior doctor, according to your rhetoric, he belongs to a high caste. Amazing enough, his father was a laborer, and mother once a domestic maid; ie, he came from a ‘Dalit’ background. To my sister’s dismay, none of her children want to follow her Dad’s profession. Mind you, it’s not the most drastic ‘Dalit’ to ‘Brahmin’ example among my relatives. I’m a Chinese residing in HK.

    HK’s richest man, Li-Ka-shing, was the son of a school teacher who was so poor that he couldn’t afford to send Li-ka-shing to senior hi-school.

    • Jason Y

      Yeah but the elites of India, Brazil etc.. won’t do nothing for the poorer classes at all. Probably the only hope the elites have of not losing thier heads would be the expansion of technology. Ultimately if you can program a computer well, even an untouchable will get a job somewhere.

      So again a battle between technology “have” and “have nots”.

    • Jason Y

      I mean expansion of internet access (You Tube videos explaining higher math and whatnot). That would be the expansion of technology.

    • Jason Y

      I believe partially when some indians say that british colonization worsened the situation in his country.

      British Empire was specially in XIX what USA is today, a greatest asshole.

      Your defense of racism, also defends imperalism, because racism is a basis of imperalism.

      The imperalism worldwide run by the US is carried out by the elite classes which practice oppression, whether it be in India or Brazil. The elites heavily benefit from US imperalism.

    • Jason Y

      I don’t get it. Your saying imperalism is going on and it’s persecuting people. Yet you say those same people are intellectually inferior, hence deserve oppression.

      Finally, it seems the only working class people you feel pity for is the American one, hence the Donald Trump thing you said.

      OK, who is the US persecuting in Brazil? Is it persecuting the elite class? I don’t see that.

    • Jason Y

      Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      they tend to no have

      appropriate ”intelligence”,

      different life-motivations…

      Probably more people would have intellegence if governments would improve schools, or at least give private corporations a reason to do so. Also expansion of internet access, YouTube videos besides cat ones, would help out immensely.

    • Jason Y

      Your defense of racism, also defends imperalism, because racism is a basis of imperalism.”

      just in your sick mind.

      The intellectual differences between us is enormous, i no have patience to explain what you

      don’t want understand
      don’t have the capacity to understand

      you just want to ”know” what your defective brain accept, you accuse others to be biased but you and your ideological tribe are even worst, in the same des-qualitative level than a neo-nazis.

      Cognitive prejudice determine the stupidity of both left and right-leaning people.

      It’s a anti-matter of human thinking style, the reflexive thinking.

      MANY to most of leftoids are just psychotics (black blocks or antifas), pathological liars // classic stupid idiots (technical/”academic” classes) and psychopaths (rulling classes).

      leftoids are basically the zoo of anomalous brain dominance. Some few precious REAL open-minded people and a lot of stupid people. The little island of genius and a pacific ocean of stupidity.

      But the problem become worse when you’re in the power. Isolated and dispersed stupid/naive people are tolerable and even charming/funny.

      Mass immigration, unfair criminalization/pathologization of white people, just for start,

      all of it will foment the near explosition of angry white men….

      STUPID

      Your not answering my questions.

      You say the world is full of evil US imperalism, yet it’s quite clear the ones being oppressed are the low IQ people you despise.

      True, the US does do something white nationalists hate like support Israel, yet overall, it seems to be catering to the whim of the third world elites that neo-Nazis and the like love so much.

    • Jason Y

      quote by santo-culto

      Stop to decorate these clichés and try to think on their own.

      I think you say the same thing for 20 different people.

      But i think you are not apt to learn with your own faults.

      (he will repeat the same thing, i’m opressor, i legitimate opression, i’m racist and nazi, etc etc etc etc etc )

      I no have any patience to ”debate” with classical religious, why i should have patience to debate with you**

      no.

      Your full of it dude. You contradict yourself. The real question is “Who can debate with you?”

      Either your on the side of oppressed so called “low IQ people” or you not, Otherwise, then why make statements saying “US imperalism is bad.” If it is bad, then it must be doing something bad to someone. Who is that someone? The third world elites?

    • Jason Y

      The intellectual differences between us is enormous, i no have patience to explain what you

      don’t want understand
      don’t have the capacity to understand

      Are you kidding me? Who are you? Sir Issac Newton?😆

    • Jason Y

      quote by santo-culto

      Stop to decorate these clichés and try to think on their own.

      A lot of the cliches that the left and right say are true, so why not bring them up?

      Nonetheless, I always try to look at things objectively calling bad as bad. For instance, the white bashing thing in Iowa that I said was the product of people not standing up to bullies.

    • Lin

      I fully understand what you tried to say and u just ricocheted the main theme to defend the undefendable. Its like the arabs defend their past slave trade comparing to those of ancient roman and pre-civil war US slavery.Isn’t it great? Rome and US both superpower, nice isn’t it. What difference does being ‘explicit’ or not make?

    • Santoculto

      I will not tolerate a jerk as you force me to anything, not to return to its level of pseudo-intellectual demagogues, or to even waste time with you.

    • Genesis

      Wow someone who was really butthurt a few days back vowing not to come back has arrived with a bang. Seems he’s tired of taking it up in his ass from the same guy so he might have come here for recruiting.

    • EPGAH

      Yes, you are defined by what you do, but here you get to CHOOSE what you do, rather than having it decided by what your parents were.

      If your parents are doctors, you don’t have to be a doctor. You can be a bum, if you like. Take Paris Hilton — PLEASE!

    • Lin

      “eat meat in the way that western and easterners to do is morally undefendable… industrial and macabre scale.”

      —Look, I eat meat, mostly beef and chicken the Chinese way, and the Chinese meat consumption/capita is at most 60% of American, a good amount, and I can not see why its more immoral than eating carrots, which are also a form of life. The most immoral thing is caste-related destitution that causes 47% of Indian kids stunted in their growth and malnutrition. I am sure people the world over would prefer a well-fed childhood than Hindu hypocrisy over moral this or moral that.

      “divide a society in specific labor castes is not undefendable, otherwise, should be the common place in all complex societies for all social species happen like that”

      —Why do u still pervert the focus of the issue here? Hindu caste is hereditary, division of labour is just a lame excuse to subdue a large segment of the popn.

      “Slavery is predominantly wrong. Caste system is much more ambiguous, you can create a perfect or a more imperfect society with it.”

      –Hindu caste system is about telling a large segment of popn their misery (like having no other jobs except as a sewage diver or excrement collector) has something to do with evil they did in a previous life.

      “Caste system is explicit part of indian culture.”

      –Yes, I agree. That explain why Bharat is in such a shit state. Vietnam, a victim of massive US imperialism , has about the same nominal GDP/capita and latitude/climate as India but yet Viet daily caloric intake is 20% higher, much less severe hygiene problem and little malnutrition.

    • Jason Y

      Santo-culto is not a better debater than me, and I’m not some intellectual “wannabe”. He’s simply in a rage cause he doesn’t like what I’m saying.

      Finally, again, santo-culto’s thinking is incredibly wishy-washy (weak minded). It isn’t leading to any point.

    • Jason Y

      quote by Lin

      I fully understand what you tried to say and u just ricocheted the main theme to defend the undefendable. Its like the arabs defend their past slave trade comparing to those of ancient roman and pre-civil war US slavery.Isn’t it great? Rome and US both superpower, nice isn’t it. What difference does being ‘explicit’ or not make?

      Of course, can’t you see what santo-culto is doing? He’s saying US imperalism is bad, when it’s clear US imperalism supports all the oppressive crap he likes.

      Also, his defense of every oppressive motherfucker on earth, from high caste Indians, to southern USA peckerwoods, to Vietnamese landowners causes massive misery for millions of people.

      If these systems are so great, then how come these people are often overthrown in revolutions with their heads rolling?

      Why would it benefit people to eat shit? I mean seriously, That’s what their betters, as ep-gah describes the elites, want them to do.

  5. Jason Y

    OK, some good points here. I think Robert though is only pointing out that Indians are making an ass out of themselves with the idea of rank. They’re taking it to an unncessary level. Of course, I think that’s what santo-culto is driving at.

    Anyhow, we should note perhaps Indian elites have less charity than American ones, hence the devilish reputation.

    • Jason Y

      It could be a situation, as in the American caste system, where the middle castes (not the higher ones) are the most evil, because they would get off on picking on untouchables etc..

      It’s just like when some working class southern USA white guys join the KKK.

      • EPGAH

        The KKK hasn’t been anything but a punchline for Internet idiots since 1958. What about when nonwhites join groups like Black Lies Matter and burn down swaths of Americana, or block the streets?

  6. Jason Y

    OK, there’s not much to argue against what Robert wrote. I don’t see anything wrong with what he wrote.

    As me and others had said for a long time, the paranoia of white nationalists, especially the old commenter Sam, is ridiculous as most whites tend to stay away totally from ghetto blacks.

    Note, if there were any horror stories of white people being chopped up by blacks, you can count on the fact the whites had it coming, generally speaking, especially in regards to stupid white hos wanting ghetto black guys.

    • Jason Y

      However, we also have to take into consideration the fact the mentally challenged are treated with disrespect everywhere. If dalits are mentally challenged then of course they’re going to be treated like dogs. That’s wrong of course, and in enlightened politically correct nations like the USA people call it for what it is, and that’s barbaric and cruel.

    • “Note, if there were any horror stories of white people being chopped up by blacks, you can count on the fact the whites had it coming, generally speaking, especially in regards to stupid white hos wanting ghetto black guys.”

      You mean by forceful rape assault? Jason, it not just the case of whites being in Black neighborhoods but often vice versa. Chicago, New York, D.C, Philadelphia, New York, all place that had generations of white before Blacks came.

      • Jason Y

        You can’t order blacks out of urban areas. That’s ridiculous. It’s too late. Anyhow, the trend in much of history was to go to the suburbs, hence leaving decaying urban areas to blacks. I don’t think whites left because of blacks being the suburbs, they just left.

        The new interstate system and other transportation advancements signaled the end of downtown in the late 60s, 1970s etc…

      • “You can’t order blacks out of urban areas. That’s ridiculous. It’s too late. Anyhow, the trend in much of history was to go to the suburbs, hence leaving decaying urban areas to blacks. I don’t think whites left because of blacks being the suburbs, they just left.

        The new interstate system and other transportation advancements signaled the end of downtown in the late 60s, 1970s etc…”

        Jason, that has nothing to due with what I said. I was NOT advocating displacing blacks, what I was refuting was your claim that “whites had it coming”.

        “Again Phil, and this goes back to your genetic arguments. It’s all about probablity. A probablity exists a certain number of blacks will be lawyers. A probablity also exists a white guy will get beaten up by blacks in a white neighborhood.”

        At a disproportionate rate? Look at Black on white crime stats.

        “So the question is how can we defend ourselves? We can’t protect our communities from all danger, especially considering, yeah a black guy will beat you up in an all-white neighborhood, but a white guy will too, and some white guys are school shooters etc..”

        Wow, you POS. “We can’t protect ourselves from all danger” means nothing from DISPROPORTIONATE crime.

        “The blacks must be pretty bold to have a “beat whitey night” in an all white state like Iowa. Have they lost their fucking mind? I suppose the big cities must have a lot of blacks. Nonetheless, I don’t think they would try that in mostlly white Knoxville, Tennessee etc..”

        Okay, you know, now I KNOW you didn’t read that fucking link. Blacks had killed COLLEGE STUDENT at a fair! Wasn’t some “neighborhood” random crime shit, IT WAS TERRORISM.

        “Possibly, it’s because the white people have become limp wristed. I’m not saying the whites should join the KKK, but they should stand up to bullies, including racial bullies.

        However, note whites do the same in reverse. In fact, they drove out a black man/ white woman (mixed kids) couple out of my mountain valley.”

        Jason, I of course don’t think support that kind of behavior. HOWEVER What I’m talking about is a STATISTICAL issue, you are talking about a ANECODOTE.

        I’m not saying the you gave account wasn’t horrible, but you are not getting the big picture.

      • Also, my point of mentioning those cities is that their were populations of whites their who eventually faced Black crime due to mass migration their.

        I’m not talking “who has the right to live where”, what I’m talking about is, in the case of these examples, how could you say they “had it coming” for NOT wanting to be driven out of their neighborhoods?

      • Jason Y

        Again Phil, and this goes back to your genetic arguments. It’s all about probablity. A probablity exists a certain number of blacks will be lawyers. A probablity also exists a white guy will get beaten up by blacks in a white neighborhood.

        So the question is how can we defend ourselves? We can’t protect our communities from all danger, especially considering, yeah a black guy will beat you up in an all-white neighborhood, but a white guy will too, and some white guys are school shooters etc..

      • Jason Y

        Possibly, it’s because the white people have become limp wristed. I’m not saying the whites should join the KKK, but they should stand up to bullies, including racial bullies.

        However, note whites do the same in reverse. In fact, they drove out a black man/ white woman (mixed kids) couple out of my mountain valley.

        • Jason Y

          The blacks must be pretty bold to have a “beat whitey night” in an all white state like Iowa. Have they lost their fucking mind? I suppose the big cities must have a lot of blacks. Nonetheless, I don’t think they would try that in mostlly white Knoxville, Tennessee etc..

        • EPGAH

          So let me see if I have this straight: Whites have it coming because we don’t fight back. BUT when we fight back, you bitch that we’re being “racist”. Which is it?

  7. Jason Y

    Why don’t they get an education? It’s all for free. Not trying to sound like a dick, but really, these people have ridiculous demands like 20 dollars an hour at McDonalds or Wal-Mart (a popular store in the USA). Perhaps they want to work at a factory using 2 percent of their brain, but making 20 dollars an hour, even though robot technology is in full swing.

    OK, so now, instead of getting on YouTube and studying in-demand subjects like programming or math, they turn to Trump. Oh, well😆

    lack of social mobility is becoming less and less of an excuse nowadays. I see this mostly as a battle between the tech “have” and tech “have nots”. Unfortunately cave people encountering a modern army will be decimated.

    • Jason Y

      Thw working class has a right to be angry. Then again, deep down they know they’re stubborn folk who refuse to get an education even when layed out in front of them for practically nothing. Ultimately, they are mentally lazy. Also, even in the vocational fields, there is enough education to put a lot of these people way over Latinos.

      A lot of them, as Phil pointed out (like the pizza guy I mentioned) have massive personality problems despite high intellect. So is it some Latino immigrant’s fault they are a failure in life?

    • Jason Y

      If it is true California and New York are raising the minimum wage, then white people can play the “send money back home” game too. Let’s go to those states, work at minimum wage jobs, and send the cash back to Alabama, Colorado etc..

  8. Jason Y

    Yes, I always do think on my own, not like a herd animal that santo-culto says that I am. Santo-culto thinks on his own, but the result is a massive schizophrenic mess that nobody can understand, yet he mocks me as mentally ill. LOL

    • Jason Y

      Santo-culto’s thinking is the equivelent of gibberish brought on by some bad acid trip. It provides no real answers to anything, except with some cliche statements about “Jews being evil, etc..” or “The low IQ being bad and criminal.”

      • EPGAH

        And what about your gibberish that the Whites “refuse to get an education”, so the savages deserve to invade the country, take the jobs, money, and safety away?

        • Jason Y

          The whites are using Latinos as a scapegoat. I say this even though I disagree with illegal immigration. I mean seriously, the Trump supporters are often wanting unrealistic demands, while at the same time, refusing education. Of course, the Trump supporters are right in wanting immigration reform, yet the hate and scapegoat motivation is so obvious.

        • EPGAH

          What do you mean they’re “refusing” education, exactly?
          If you mean college, that takes a lot more money than you think.

          And what do you mean by “unrealistic demands”? They want raises they haven’t had since the 1980s because competition with illegals keeps wages at 1980s Levels, while the prices keep going up.

          And how do you explain that, anyways? We have more illegals, more H1B Indentured Servants, more unpaid college interns than ever before–all this “cheap” labor–but prices keep going up! When do we get the “cheap” part of the “cheap” labor? Seems like the rest of us are paying the real price for this “cheap” labor!

  9. Sid25

    There is almost no social segregation in modern India. Caste is merely an economic and political tool, the foundation of the insatiable capitalistic desires of Indians.

    There may a visible tendency to live in separated groups, but this is merely an issue of economics. It is well known that in cities and towns, rich societies neighbour large slums. What may not be obvious is how often these slums house upper castes. Migrated upper castes from rural regions prefer to socialize with lower castes of a similar linguistic or economic background, over urban upper castes. This is well known in colleges and universities.

    To what effect do brahmins want to separate themselves from other castes? The IQ gap is no defense since most culture is language based, rather than caste based in India. Caste is used by individuals to further self interest, and to have a economically weak caste or no caste at all is what makes a modern ‘Dalit’.

  10. farid

    Robert,
    Indian is paranoid about proud themselves. As far as i know they only want to proud their family/ their name only. That is why they always want to be a doctor, just to boost their own name. One indian leader says ‘ one indian family – one doctor’.

    Indian movie is all about self proud themselves. Have you watch any indian movies robert? just watch it and you know

  11. DHL

    We know about the Agenda, Hindu Gods will put a stop to it. True Hindus can label Whites as “Mlechas” [Dirty], not that you dont shower, you got lot of dirty sins. Your time is coming soon.

  12. S.D.

    BNP Party anti-Gora sentiment is a lower-middle Caste thing that pretty well marks the person somewhere in the middle of the labor caste below merchant status.

    Brahmins do not care about Goras and are rarely nationalistic either-this is a working-class/medium-to-low caste sentiment.

    Parsis (Persian Zoroastrians) like Freddie Mercury do not care a whit about Goras either.

    Syrian Christians (Iyers) are also very successful and they too do not show much interest or dislike of Goras.

    The somehow alien aspect of these groups-Parsis are Iranian, Brahmins maybe Central Asian or Persian, Syrian Christians in Kerela-might have something to do with both their lack of animosity towards Goras AND their respective accomplishments in India. I do not know.

    Bottom-of-the-caste barrel Dalit Dravidians who converted to Catholicism deep in the South of India LOVE Goras whom they regarded as liberators from the caste system.

    Some become MORMONS and move to Utah.

    .

  13. S.D.

    A Gora is much safer in a New Jersey neighborhood full of Gujarati merchants caste families than in East End London’s gang-infested Bangladeshi neighborhoods where whites can be mugged or killed.

    Punjabi lower castes tend to have higher gang tendencies in Vancouver and involvement in the drug trade than Brahmans in Northern California. Brahmans will not emerge to solicit drug deals from their condominiums in Silicone Valley.

    Neighborhoods are worse in Brampton, Ontario or Birmingham because of the MUCH lower castes who live there as oppose to Brahmans in Northern California.

    Just an added observation…from a Gora who lived in India a very long time.

  14. S.D.

    Responding to the BNP Hinduvata type on the subject of Gora “sins” the real question is why lower to medium caste people like yourself are so fixated/focused on Goras and White Skin. English quit India 70 years ago.

    I should add that Brahmans, Syrian Christians and Parsis show zero dislike or interest in Goras. They are the ones who own the economy of India, not goras.

    Arabs who introduced the other major religion to your society are the ones created the divisions you cope with today.

    That was something like one thousand years ago.

    • Sid25

      Partially true. Brahmins and upper castes don’t hate white people, but in fact they have a great love for them. To the point of secretly worshiping them. It’s the single reason why over the years of foreign rule in India, upper castes have been desperately trying to assimilate with invaders.

      Middle caste hatred of outsiders is the standard xenophobia of working class and land owning groups. Most middle castes probably hate immigrants from other Indian states, a lot more than whites or muslims. If you’ve actually sat down and ever talked to them long enough, they would barely concern themselves with the nonsensical brahminical schemes of identity politics.

  15. S.D.

    Syrian Christians and Parsis relate to whites because they are also foreigners essentially.

    Lower-caste and middle-caste Indians do not seem to notice that it is Persians who own their economy and not Americans or Brits.

    Brahmans in America do seem to have the difficulties that Punjabi and Bangladeshis exhibit in London or Vancouver.

    Indian-American street crime rate is non-existent whereas in Canada there is significant gang violence.

    I tend to believe this is because Brahmins live in the United States and Sikhs or other Punjabi groups congregate in Canada.

  16. Nightowl2548

    I’ve found South Asians in the US to usually be untrustworthy scammers. TV writers knew these people well when they developed the “Ferengi” race of swindlers on Deep Space Nine. Any small businessman immigrant from east of the Danube to the Yellow Sea is much too likely to be a swindler peddling shoddy goods for me to take a chance dealing with them. Just fill up a container with 3rd world goods intended for the local market not up to western standards, import it to the US, and sell it on Ebay to unsuspecting Americans. Crap like this is now going on, don’t expect that unknown brand electronic device you got as an “internet deal” to last more than a few months, that’s what you get for not going to the store and getting a reputable brand. Quark and the Grand Nagus are meanwhile laughing all the way to the bank, faith confirmed in The Rules of Acquisition.”

  17. cheez121

    brahmins are smart but low caste indians are not all stupid. most of the indian population in fiji, mauritius, trinidad/tobago, guyana, and south africa are all descendants of low caste & dalit coolies from bihar and uttar pradesh (which are the two worst, poor, dumb states in india).

    yet these indians are not like that. mauritius is one of the best countries in africa with an hdi of .777 and a 70% indian population. in trinidad & guyana, even south africa the indian population is better off than the blacks. they don’t cause crime, are wealthier, etc.

    i don’t like richard lynn’s iq figures at all…he was out to prove an agenda

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