Mexifornia: What a City Overrun with Hispanic Illegal Aliens Looks Like

My city in the Central Valley of California is frankly completely overrun with illegal aliens. However, the city is not as devastated as you think. This is one of the largest agricultural regions in the US if not the world. Most if not all Mesoamerican illegal immigrants in this town are deployed in agriculture as field workers, where they get up early in the morning, take buses to work every day and then come home in the afternoon. These are hardworking men who work a full 40 hour week if not more at very difficult work, and they do not have much time or inclination to cause problems.

Furthermore, although it is little discussed, one reason that the illegal immigrant crime rate is not higher than it is is that many illegals are totally paranoid of law enforcement, live under the radar as much as possible and are terrified of deportation. As such many of them try very hard to obey the law as much as possible, as getting in trouble with police could lead to deportation. These people are more or less hiding and trying not to make waves or call attention to themselves.

If you talk about illegal aliens loudly around here, the Mexicans act like they want to fight you. It is a very emotional issue with them, and most of them are either illegals themselves, once were, or have family or friends who are illegals or once were.

A while back, many Mexican-Americans opposed the illegals. Now they all support them. There is nothing good about the illegals. Most are not bad people (I assume, or at least the ones I see them around here a lot, as this is a migrant labor town), but on the other hand, there is nothing positive about them. They are just poor, uneducated, backwards and not very smart working class and peasant types from the 3rd World. It’s not a first world population.

When a town goes from White to Hispanic as the illegals flood in:

The wages crash, all of the “jobs Whites won’t do,” which were actually all being done by Whites, disappear, as there is mass displacement of mostly working class Whites from low level jobs.

There really are no jobs Whites won’t do unless it’s working in the fields, and around here there are countless legal Hispanics working in the fields. It’s a lie that it’s all illegals in the fields. Migrant workers come here, get legalized, and then keep working in the fields because this is what they have always done.

Also it often pays by piecework now, so the Hispanics can often make a lot of money out in the fields. There is a corresponding rise in meth use by migrant workers in order to do their piecework faster. Mexican legal immigrants with green cards and Mexican-American US citizens (there are huge numbers of these people around here) continue to work in the fields as this is what they have always done. At times even the children of illegals (US citizens), who incidentally were often gang-associated, work in the fields! Around here I know a number of former gang associates aged 18-23 who are now happily working in the fields, as this is young man’s work. They are US citizens, born in the US.

Yes, Whites won’t work in the fields, but Mexicans will, and that includes illegal, legal and citizen Mexicans.

The crime rate rises as illegals displace working class Whites.

Housing becomes scarce and prices rise as illegals cause a demand rise in housing prices.

Gangs proliferate, usually the children of the illegals and not the illegals themselves. It’s a lie that illegals are criminals or mostly criminals. Most are workers, and they often work very hard. They are simple, backwards peasants from a 3rd World country who have no business in a first world country. The criminal and gang element instead comes from the children of the illegals.

Crime is often property crime. Business that hardly had a break-in before now suffer very frequent burglaries. A lot of the property crime is petty as Mexicans tend to be two-bit, penny ante, low value thieves who prefer to steal little stuff like a $25 hubcap or a $30 phone charger. You must lock your doors in a Mexican town or your car will be burglarized because Mexicans love to break into cars. After several years in a Mexican town, all of your hubcaps will be stolen because Mexicans steal hubcaps.

There is some violent crime in my town but not a whole lot. Most serious violent crime like homicide is done by legal residents, often gang member children of illegals. I am not aware of much sex crime around here. I know one guy who suffered an attempted robbery at 9:30 PM, but it was a cheap penny ante shakedown by an unarmed teenage gang type US citizen who did not even have the knife he claimed to have.

There are also beatings, muggings and robberies of paisas, which is what the illegal migrant workers are called around here. These happen from 10 PM-3 AM. The muggings are carried out by local gang members and associates. Paisas are targeted because they carry large amounts of cash around with them and are often walking around very drunk late at night carrying up to a couple hundred dollars. Roll a drunken paisa in an alleyway at 3 AM and score $200. That’s the typical violent crime around here. I do not think that the drunken paisas are injured very often in these robberies. The gangsters just knock them down and take their money. They want the money. They don’t want to seriously hurt them.

Anyway, when a city goes from White to illegal Hispanic, there is a transformation that might be best termed a decline. There is a general decline in the city or town that is hard to put your finger on, but is a combination of all of the things above. The decline is not severe or catastrophic, and many Hispanic towns are quite livable, but that fall is quite notable. I do not understand why we need to import a population that causes a decline in towns and cities. Why?

It would be wrong to say the Mexicans recreate Mexico because they do not. The resulting city is typically not Mexico Norte. Why this is is not known, but it seems just living in the US causes Mexicans to act a lot better than they act in Mexico. People assimilate to culture. In Mexico, Mexicans assimilate to a horrible culture called Mexican culture. Here they assimilate more towards a much better culture called American culture. They do not fully assimilate upwards, but it’s good enough. Instead what you end up with is what I might call “a somewhat upgraded version of Mexico.” It’s not the nightmare horror called Mexico, but it’s neither that great city on the hill called the USA. It’s something in between.

The city remains livable especially if there are still quite a few Whites (particularly moneyed Whites) around to keep the ship afloat. In such cases, there are enough Whites around to more or less run things and keep the show from badly falling apart, which is what typically happens in California when a town nears 100% Hispanic. I live in an agricultural region, and many of the White farmers around here are wealthy. There are farmer mini-mansions on the outskirts of town. At 25-30% White, an Hispanic town full of illegals is still livable if some of the Whites have money.

The Whites have enough competence and money to keep the show running, and they encourage competence in the Hispanic employees and citizens below them by example. Hispanics are not necessary bad citizens or employees, but they need guidance. As long as a city has that certain level Whites around to maintain society and keep the Hispanics acting pretty good by example, the decline is quite attenuated.

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23 responses to “Mexifornia: What a City Overrun with Hispanic Illegal Aliens Looks Like

  1. Ed

    This is a fantastic essay, which I hope to link to on other sites. I’ll post a few criticisms, but they are minor.

    The main criticism I have, as with your commentary on India and India, is that Mexico is a really big country, and where in Mexico the migrants are coming from probably makes a huge difference on how the towns they settle in the US change.

    Unlike with India, I’ve been to Mexico. The central part, in and around Mexico City, is not the mediocre hellhole you make it out to be. Its a pretty cultured area, and pretty advance except there are of course lots of migrants from more backwards parts of Mexico (actually the same goes for the southern states of Brazil, they would be first world type places but they get lots of migration from states in Brazil that developmentally are close to Africa). But Americans don’t have much experience with this part of Mexico. Americans are exposed to northern Mexico, which is kind of like a poorer, more backwards version of Texas, or the poor parts of southern Mexico where most of the migrants come from. In fact, in recent years most of the migration coming north has been from Central America, the Mexicans put them on special trains and tell them how to cross the border into the US.

    Migrants quickly send word back to their friends and families that they have found work and to come join them, so in a given county you will probably find that most of them come from the same region or even the same town. This is pretty universal with migration throughout history. But where in Mexico the migrants are coming from will make a big difference in how the place is transformed.

    And you did get this with other countries throughout history. For example, Italian-American culture in the US, the stuff you see on movies and TV shows, is basically Sicilian culture. That is also where the Mafia is in charge. This is where most Italian American immigration came from. Northern Italy is very different, but people from there had little reason to migrate. But if you look at northern Italian enclaves in the US, such as North Beach in San Francisco, they never fit the stereotype. The US got alot of Jewish immigrants, but they tended to be Polish Jews and brought with them Polish peasant culture. Enclaves of German Jews, such as the Upper West Side in Manhattan, turned out differently.

  2. Jason Y

    They are just poor, uneducated, backwards and not very smart working class and peasant types from the 3rd World.

    Right, the very ones destroyed by free trade. They’re certainly not criminal scum (besides the fact many think they’re criminal for being illegal aliens) that the poster ep-gah makes them out to be. They’re not drug dealers etc.., only a small group of Latinos are into that.

  3. TJF

    To Jason Y

    Right, the very ones destroyed by free trade.

    I am not a fan of rampant free trade as espoused by our neoliberal overlords but the notion that jobs in Mexico were destroyed by NAFTA is basically BS.

    NAFTA was a net gain for the workers Mexico and a net loss for their counterparts in the US and Canada. The problem with Mexico is and has been a small group of wealthy and powerful people who steal from middle class and poor Mexicans combined with a heavy reliance of the export of natural resources. Economic expansion (and birth rates) in Mexico in the 60s and 70s was followed by a collapse in prices in resource prices the 80s and 90s. What fundamentally changed was the US posture towards enforcing laws against illegal aliens starting in the 80s. Corporations realized they could weaken US labor by hiring illegal workers – these were companies made big contributions to the Republican party culminating in a broad amnesty law signed by Ronald Reagan 1986.

  4. Shawn

    “…the wages all crash, all of the “jobs Whites won’t do” which were actually all being done by Whites, disappear, as there is mass displacement of mostly working class Whites from low level jobs.”

    Right. There are no jobs that Whites won’t do. Zip, zero, zilch. The question is, at what price? When an industry can’t find enough workers they should just keep raising wages until they can find them. And a sane country should have policies in place for this to happen naturally (restrict immigration).

    The corporate bosses have conned Americans into believing that field labor work entitles no more than minimum wage. The workers should be paid their market rate under nativist policies.

    • Jason Y

      The keywords though are low level. Why would working class whites demand jobs at the level of Mexicans? The whites could easily take some vocational courses and qualify themselves for numerous jobs.

      Take the 40 year old white guy at Dominos Pizza I mentioned. Surely he could do better than that. As expected, the guy is a massive “feel sorry for me” kind of white guy who loathes Mexicans.

      No it’s wrong for greedy companies to cheat people. But they’re only cheating people who are weak. People who try hard at life don’t bullied around so much.

      • Jason Y

        OK, so Wal Mart are assholes. Everybody knows that, but why would people work there, when there is so much education available to rise above that situation? That would go for any other low wage job.

        Take McDonalds for instance, where high wages have been demanded. OK< that’s fine, but unless the CEOs start taking a cut, you can’t rise the wage without raising the price to where nobody will eat there. Again, getting CEOs to give themselves a paycut is a lost cause, so people should get more education and rise above McDonalds.

      • Shawn

        “Why would working class whites demand jobs at the level of Mexicans?”

        Because the companies that need people would want to hire them & they would have to raise their rate of pay. It’s simple supply & demand economics.

        • Jason Y

          But what kind of dumbasses would seek out janitor jobs when they could get the education to do more?

    • Jason Y

      The idea that whites are being displaced by Mexican people and culture makes sense. However, the idea that Mexicans are an economic threat, is debateable. As I was saying, it’s so easy for white people to get into lines of work that put them above Latinos. Assuming the whites aren’t lazy which seems to be a big problem.

    • Jason Y

      quote by Shawn

      The corporate bosses have conned Americans into believing that field labor work entitles no more than minimum wage. The workers should be paid their market rate under nativist policies.

      How much are people willing to pay for vegetables? I mean, look how people bitch when gasoline prices go up? Seems like people want low prices without sacrifice.

      • Shawn

        The poor will have more money to pay for veggies if they don’t have to compete with foreigners.

        • Jason Y

          Huh, they would have more money to pay for veggies if they (the whites) would get a vocational or academic education. Yeah if more whites had bigger ambitions than picking thier nose, then they could afford higher priced veggies.

  5. Jason Y

    Yes Whites won’t work in the fields, but Mexicans will, and that includes illegal, legal and citizen Mexicans.

    The whites didn’t want to work in the fields when African Americans were slaves either.

    • Shawn

      Think of the economy as a pie. How will it be split? If split in a way where Mexicans do low-wage labor, poor whites suffer who would otherwise take those jobs, which would pay more because there would be less competition. it’s a zero sum game.

      • Jason Y

        Whites picking cotton or picking beans? Fat chance.

        • TJF

          To Jason Y

          Whites picking cotton or picking beans? Fat chance.
          Presumably you have never worked on a farm that grows cotton as it has been harvested by machines for more than 50 years, so yes whites won’t be picking cotton, nor will Latinos nor blacks. As for the past (50 plus years ago) whites encompassed the majority of farm labor in the US. Although a good percentage of illegal labor is involved in farm work in the US, the majority is not – they work in factories, construction, restaurants etc. Jobs that legal Americans can and have done for many years, especially if the wages are decent.

        • Jason Y

          I was referring to whites back in Civil War days. Of course, now cotton is picked with machines.

          There was something about the work in cotton fields which made it unattractive to white people then, even though they did a lot of farm work among themselves to feed thier families. It must have sucked to pick cotton or why would the overseers need whips? Why would they need slaves? Couldn’t they have just paid some Irishmen to work for 2 cents an hour?

        • Jason Y

          Some whites like the singer Johnny Cash’s family picked cotton, but it always seemed to be negro work thru most of history. They could never attract enough whites, not even the Irish, to go out and pick from sunrise to sunset.

        • Shawn

          If an employer can find the labor, they will just have to keep raising wages. Once the wages are high enough it will make sense for Whites to take those jobs and skip vocational education (or whatever education) because they would make less money over the course of a lifetime getting that education.

        • Jason Y

          If an employer can find the labor, they will just have to keep raising wages. Once the wages are high enough it will make sense for Whites to take those jobs and skip vocational education (or whatever education) because they would make less money over the course of a lifetime getting that education.

          Why should employers pay high wages to monkeys with no education ? If that is the case, then what’s the point of getting an educaiton, except to be an academic show-off ?

          If you all believe bean pickers should make as much as mechanics, then you have a problem.

  6. Jason Y

    The more education blacks, mexicans and even so called trailer park whites get , then the more gangs and the like fade into the past. I’m sure the Irish one time lived in a world with gangs (as Gangs of New York) would testify.

    People with no education would be more attracted to gangs, drug use and other negative behavior cause they’re isn’t much to live for. They’re isn’t any social mobility for them.

  7. TJF

    To Jason Y:

    Why should employers pay high wages to monkeys with no education ? If that is the case, then what’s the point of getting an educaiton, except to be an academic show-off ?

    There are dozens of manual labor jobs that only require a high school education (or less) that pay higher wages than jobs that require Bachelor’s degrees. Many people who attend college do so to broaden their horizons and to meet like minded people – not to make large sums of money.

    If you all believe bean pickers should make as much as mechanics, then you have a problem.

    Straw man fallacy – Shawn never said bean pickers should make as much as mechanics – but perhaps they should make enough to have an unsubsidized roof over their head and not have to collect food stamps. (As is the case for many Walmart and McDonald’s workers..no case studies for bean pickers that I am aware of…) And by the way many of the mechanics, carpenters, plumbers and other skilled laborers that I know never had any formal education after high school. Most of the vocational programs in the US are offered by for profit universities that end up saddling students with high debt and marginal employment prospects. The strongest economy in Europe, Germany has 40% fewer college graduates per capita than the US but has a much more robust and regulated vocational training that is respected by employers, unlike what we have in the US.

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