Even Better Than #whitelivesmatter

How bout some nihilism?

#nolivesmatter

I like it already!

I came out of the punk rock movement where most of us had the attitude of, “Decline of Western Civilization? Cool! What can I do to help?”, so I’ve had a soft spot in my black heart for nihilism since my salad days.

Modern SJW culture is getting pretty damned nihilistic if you actually sit down and think about it. Who knows, maybe in 20 years, narodniks will be in style again. After all they killed the Czar, and that’s impressive.

Maybe we are already there. Nietzsche is the quintessential modernist. Who else can speak to our age? He said we were already trapped in a nihilistic black hole, and that was a hundred years ago.

Why else is Buddhism, the original nihilistic religion, so popular with hipsters these days?

What else could you call postmodernism but nihilism enshrined in the academy and intellectual? Derrida is Nietzsche updated to a new century. From there we move on to Lyotard and especially Baudrillard, and then it’s a hop and skip to Badiou and especially Brassier, the echoing voice in the darkness of the black hole of our time.

The art world was never far behind, or maybe even out in front.

Sade was scribbling in his dungeon a century before Nietzsche rocked the world.

While narodniks were throwing bombs, Turgenev and Chekhov were following them in the literature of the time.

From there we went to Dada, which is nihilistic or it is nothing at all, or perhaps it is both or neither, which all mean the same thing if you think about it.

Ayn Rand hated nihilism, which is funny considering that Objectivism is about as nihilistic as you can get. I mean come on. Religion is dead, so it obviously follows that God is too. No religion, no God. That’s not too hard to understand. Without God, there is nothing, and that is our postmodern predicament du jour. Sartre would call it a “dilemma.” It certainly creates a lot of angst. Look at all the people on psych meds.

Hilariously, the Objectivists look out at the world with their cold sociopathic dead shark eyes and call their evil ways a temple. “God may be dead, but it matters not,” they cheer. “For we have money, and in money we have more meaning than a thousand Gods!” Yeah. Let’s all go pray at the bank. Maybe they’ll give me a loan.

It’s such pitiful thinking until you realize probably half the US population are Randists. Then it becomes frightening, yet another dangerous popular delusion.

And no, money is not a substitute for meaning. All the meaning in my wallet and a $1.79 will get you a Slurpee at a 7-11.

Money is God! Surely you jest. But our Randists do not, and that’s scary. Serial killer scary.

Music was a bit late to the game, but as mentioned above, nihilism was Punk Rock’s middle name. Probably the Velvets were the incubators, and then the Pistols blew it up for the world to see. Punk is nihilistic to this day, assuming it’s not commodified yet.

Industrial, Black metal, death metal, and doom metal took the ex nihilo baton from punk and ran with it. Black Sabbath were the Velvets of metal. Metallica, Slayer, Alice in Chains, Ministry, Motorhead, Nine Inch Nails, Pantera and especially Marilyn Manson blazed a trail of destructive nothingness that rages to this moment.

Film was even later to game, but the movies always catch up to culture eventually. It’s a law, written in stone on Hollywood Boulevard. The Big Lebowski was the first step, and what is Fight Club but nihilistic? The Matrix and its sequel probably wrote the ultimate cinematic treatise on our modern disease. What’s with that hollowed out book in Thomas A. Anderson’s hand? And what’s Agent Smith ranting about anyway, or is he really just ranting about nothing?

More recently, the Joker in himself  in Dark Knight Rises is none other than the Agent of Chaos. With no love of money, he wants nothing to do with filthy lucre. He only wants to make everything burn. In the ultimate anti-Objectivist statement, he even burns a gigantic pile of money.

Most people troll on the Net, but some hardcores troll in real life. That’s called Trolling IRL. At the moment, that is exacting what Mr. Trump is doing – trolling IRL. That silly billionaire is trolling the whole damn world.

Some folks who troll IRL are harmless like Andy Kaufman, probably the finest IRL troller that ever lived.

Others who troll IRL are downright evil. I can’t help thinking that Adolf Hitler was trolling the world with his crazy philosophy. Unfortunately, this mad trolling IRL episode left 50 million bodies in its wake.

James Holmes was another evil IRL troller, though he was a mere piker next to Der Fuhrer. Nevertheless, this exemplary philosopher/man of action understood The Dark Knight movie at its essence. Hence he dressed up as the Joker and crashed a movie theater in Colorado, spraying the packed crowd with machine gun fire, trying to make the world burn in his own petty and failed way.

And our trajectory of nothingness, with all its bumps and lurches along the way, leads us here, to our modern nightmare. In the ultimate act of nihilism, a man dressed up as the Joker, the Agent of Chaos himself and raided a movie theater with a machine gun in a failed attempt to set the world aflame, in a nightmarish act of horrific violence utterly devoid of all meaning.

And here I leave you, dear reader, staring off into space, looking at nothing at all.

Have a good trip, if you can bear it.

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125 responses to “Even Better Than #whitelivesmatter

  1. Jason Y

    I’m obviously not going to defiend white nationalism. However, it makes more sense than total anarchy. Anarchy as a way of being cannot exist due to man’s evil nature. A large problem with white nationalism is that it fails to take into account the evil nature of ALL people including whites. See how commenters like ep-gah white-wash western colonialism etc..

    • EPGAH

      Well, at risk of being anti-nihilist, whites are the LEAST Evil!
      White people have clothed and fed minorities for ages. We civilized or as close as to civilizing Africans as you can. None of them have ever done anything for us except put their hands out and take add much as they can. They hate us and disrespect us yet they act like we owe them a free life.

      And of course, they should get away with attacking our cops, rather than get gunned down in the street as they deserve for doing so.

      • Jason Y

        Both sides were abusive in the 1500 – 2000 history of the world, both the non-whites and the so called “benevolent whites” you speak of. If you say whites cannot be abusive, you’d also have to say parents cannot be abusive.

        Ultimately evil human nature, something anarchists don’t accept, says all people, all races, have problem with evil.

        • EPGAH

          Yes, but whites punish our evil ones.
          Nonwhites gather around and defend and praise them.

          It might be a bit simplistic, but check how whites treated Hitler, vs. how Blacks treat Mugabe or treated Toussaint L’overture?

          White civilization REALIZES people are evil, but doesn’t ACCEPT it, and provides punishment for it! This is what nonwhites dub “oppression”.
          Are we supposed to let them “get it out of their system” as in the above picture?

          Where do YOU draw the line between punishment and abuse?

        • EPGAH

          There was an SJW bashing me yesterday. I had seen a commercial about Euros going to Africa, they invented this powder to put in the water to clean it. Apparently tens of thousands of children were dying every year because of dirty water. In Africa of course.
          I told this idiot this: What kind of people can’t even figure out how to clean the water that their kids drink? That white people have to come and do it for them? And if whites are so evil, why didn’t we poison it WORSE instead of fix it?

          She was incensed, but it shut her up real quick. White people going to Africa to cure diseases. Savages coming to white countries to SPREAD diseases!
          http://www.abc15.com/news/national/immigrants-bringing-diseases-across-border

        • Jason Y

          There was an SJW bashing me yesterday. I had seen a commercial about Euros going to Africa, they invented this powder to put in the water to clean it. Apparently tens of thousands of children were dying every year because of dirty water. In Africa of course.
          I told this idiot this: What kind of people can’t even figure out how to clean the water that their kids drink? That white people have to come and do it for them? And if whites are so evil, why didn’t we poison it WORSE instead of fix it?

          She was incensed, but it shut her up real quick. White people going to Africa to cure diseases. Savages coming to white countries to SPREAD diseases!
          http://www.abc15.com/news/national/immigrants-bringing-diseases-across-border

          You brought up an interesting point. What does Robert Lindsay think about this? Anyhow, could it be corruption causes a bad water supply, much as it causes starvation and other things? However, if it is corruption of the society, then how could it be the fault of individual parents?

        • Jason Y

          And no, that doesn’t show blacks “detest” Ghetto Blacks, they were just fleeing for their survival, and/or keeping what’s theirs theirs.

          I don’t get what your saying here. Are you saying average blacks can’t recognize scum when they see it? Surely, that’s not true.

          Yeah, of course, they are fleeing for thier own survival, and of course they would detest ghetto blacks who would steal from them and kill them.

        • EPGAH

          Individuals have to fight corruption, because who else will? Society is the aggregate of individuals, right?

          And if blacks detest thugs that kill and steal from them, then they should be in total support of whatever Level of police is necessary to stop that behavior, right?
          They should be telling Black Lies Matter to pipe down, or push for police to put them down, right?

          Or do they expect to move into white cities/neighborhoods and expect some Magic Earth properties to keep those neighborhoods clean&safe?

    • Dave Mowers

      “A large problem with white nationalism is that it fails to take into account the evil nature of ALL people including whites.”

      History shows you are wrong. The KKK is the Druidic faith born from thousands of years of Celtic practice. It is pure racism but it is also about survival. Historically all cultures warred with one another that were in proximity to one another. Culling your enemies, real or perceived, was beneficial in that it assuaged male youth anger, kept populations low allowing for more choice in females, provided widowed females and daughters for conquest and breeding and enriched tribes with the fruits of their vanquished neighbors’ toil.

      It is a given that if colored peoples had power they would attempt to hold onto it by denying whites any. It is a given that colored peoples will one day try to rule this world and war is inevitable. It is a given that white nationalism is necessary for the Caucasian race to survive. To say that whites do not understand evil is pure nonsense.

      Caucasians have been fighting and killing since the dawn of civilization. More whites have died than any other race will ever lose. Alexander the Great was killing white Aryan Persians at a rate of 750 per minute in one famous battle. German tribes routinely murdered their neighboring tribes. Spartans killed every Spring as did most Greek tribes. The Etruscans raped and murdered other Caucasian tribes for the pure pleasure of it.

      It was common practice among Middle Eastern Aryan tribes to kill infants in sacrifice to gods. Carthaginians burned them alive. Spartans threw weak newborns off cliffs. Canaanites ate their slaves. Chaldeans killed people ritually every night. The Jews annihilated entire tribes of Caucasian Nebo.

      Had America(Caucasians of European descent) not stood up to Hitler there would be no black people or Chinese alive today.

      • EPGAH

        Thank you! And actually, we HAVE PROOF that if savages took power, they would deny whites any, from Haiti to South Africa, to the far less violent, but no less theft, of Hong Kong!

        • Jason Y

          How do you know they would? They’re not stupid you know. If they see that some whites are smart and can do things for them, then they’d want to keep them alive, even if for selfish reasons.

        • EPGAH

          Because it’s already happened!

          They massacred EVERY LAST WHITE in Haiti!
          As to keeping useful whites alive, Robert said Mexicans do that, but it is public record that in South Africa and Rhodesia, savages are STILL butchering the whites that grow the food that prevents them from starving!
          So, NO, they don’t “want to keep them alive, even if for selfish reasons.”

          We judge the future by past examples. Whether you call it “stereotyping” or “learning”, ALL humans do it.
          If you don’t believe me, why don’t you touch a hot stove barehanded?
          Maybe because you’ve done that in the past on a different stove? Would you believe someone who said THIS stove is different and wouldn’t burn you?

        • Jason Y

          Because it’s already happened!

          They massacred EVERY LAST WHITE in Haiti!
          As to keeping useful whites alive, Robert said Mexicans do that, but it is public record that in South Africa and Rhodesia, savages are STILL butchering the whites that grow the food that prevents them from starving!
          So, NO, they don’t “want to keep them alive, even if for selfish reasons.”

          We judge the future by past examples. Whether you call it “stereotyping” or “learning”, ALL humans do it.
          If you don’t believe me, why don’t you touch a hot stove barehanded?
          Maybe because you’ve done that in the past on a different stove? Would you believe someone who said THIS stove is different and wouldn’t burn you?

          How do you know blacks in certain parts of Africa, or past blacks in Haiti are represenative of all blacks everywhere in the world? That’s a vast generalization.

        • EPGAH

          Um, perhaps because it happens in EVERY continent, in EVERY time-period? Robert has written articles about this in the past, go back through the archives.

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/the-breathtaking-effects-of-culture-should-not-be-underestimated/

          Even this one, where he claims exposure to Civilized World culture has gentled the Blacks in America–but only compared to their still-savage counterparts in Papua. And even these “gentled down” Blacks still managed to torch Ferguson–TWICE–didn’t they?

          So we have:
          Ferguson
          Baltimore
          Detroit
          Los Angeles
          Haiti
          South Africa
          Rhodesia
          Zaire (Did you look up what this country is called nowadays?)
          Papua
          Wars of pre-civilization Africa.

          Even Chinese have developed the same cautionary stereotypes about Blacks. Possibly because of Black attacks on Chinese who are trying to bring civilization to Africa? Or because of “Increased Gang Activity” with increased immigration from Africa to China?

          How many continents, centuries, and/or thousands of kills or buildings burnt does it take before it’s a representative sampling in your mind?

          We don’t have to sit here and argue which came first, the racism or the crime, but anyone has to admit that when black people do things like the riots in Baltimore and Ferguson, they make a fool and mockery of their race and only hurt the ones that are working hard to move up the ladder…LEGITIMATELY!

      • Uuuummm…..I suggest you look at what you quoted again

        “A large problem with white nationalism is that it fails to take into account the evil nature of ALL people including whites.”

        He didn’t say ANY white doesn’t understand White nationalism, his point rather was that many people under white nationalism is that they make things too one sided in terms of “good vs evil”.

        Sure, their could be some like you that are better educated but eactly how representative are you?

        • EPGAH

          It’s not so much “Good vs. Evil” so much as
          1.) “Survival vs. Annihilation”
          or
          2.) “Our Country Staying Ours vs. Them Taking Over”
          Some of us–particularly myself–have seen what they do to countries they takeover, and want to avoid that at all costs!

          But you’re right, I’m not necessarily representative. Many haven’t even left their hometown, much less the continent!
          However, you’d be surprised at how the Mega-Tolerant react when it’s their OWN asses getting attacked by the thugs they champion, from Jesse Jackson to Susan Dlott!

      • Hasdrubal

        More Caucasians have died in war then any other race? The Chinese would like to have a word with you.

      • Jason Y

        I don’t get what Dave Mowers is saying. He acts like he is saying my statement was wrong, but he is not.

        I was saying all human being are evil, and he just pointed out both white and colored people of the world have the capacity and desire to commit genocide, war etc.. on other groups.

        History shows you are wrong. The KKK is the Druidic faith born from thousands of years of Celtic practice. It is pure racism but it is also about survival. Historically all cultures warred with one another that were in proximity to one another. Culling your enemies, real or perceived, was beneficial in that it assuaged male youth anger, kept populations low allowing for more choice in females, provided widowed females and daughters for conquest and breeding and enriched tribes with the fruits of their vanquished neighbors’ toil.

        We don’t do those things now cause we’re not heartless savages anymore. Note the word “savage” that ep-gah brings up so much.

        What are you saying? We should throw weak newborns off cliffs? So that’s a better society?

        • Jason Y

          How is the savagery as done by Spartans any different than those ghetto blacks who burned alive a teen in Mississippi, or of those blacks who massacred all the whites in Haiti ??

        • EPGAH

          Yet the savages still do…and you want to claim we’re ALL equally evil?

          Read his third paragraph, I’ll copy-paste it for you!
          “It is a given that if colored peoples had power they would attempt to hold onto it by denying whites any. It is a given that colored peoples will one day try to rule this world and war is inevitable. It is a given that white nationalism is necessary for the Caucasian race to survive. To say that whites do not understand evil is pure nonsense.”

          The savages have the EVIL desire to takeover and ruin white countries, and whites understand that and try to keep THEIR evil under control as well as our own, right?

        • EPGAH

          Whites DON’T do that anymore. Savages still do. Therefore, more effort is required to stop THEM than ourselves. We are mostly self-policing, but we need police/military to keep THEIR evil at bay!

          Do you really NOT understand the moral difference between killing everyone of a given race to takeover and ruin a country, vs. killing the weak of your own to save resources and improve your own genepool?

        • Jason Y

          Also, disease and hunger kept population down, probably 80 percent more than war did. However, modern life conqured those problems. So are we supposed to go back? How dumb…..

        • EPGAH

          Why should we save our enemies from disease and hunger, rather than let Lord Darwin take them?

          Or more bluntly, why DO whites keep saving savages–who only want to rob and murder us?

          When you say “So are we supposed to go back”, guess what? THEY ALREADY DID GO BACK!
          Modern life DID conquer those problems, why should those who don’t want to obey modern laws get the benefits of modern life?

          As I said in another post, order and progress are the metrics by which any civilization SHOULD be measured…But somewhere along the line, civilization gets complacent, then we start worrying about being “equal”.

          Who wants to be “equal” to losers? Because the savages outnumber their betters, it inevitably means dragging us backwards–which even you say is “dumb”–rather than pulling them forwards, right?

        • Jason Y

          Whites DON’T do that anymore. Savages still do. Therefore, more effort is required to stop THEM than ourselves. We are mostly self-policing, but we need police/military to keep THEIR evil at bay!

          Do you really NOT understand the moral difference between killing everyone of a given race to takeover and ruin a country, vs. killing the weak of your own to save resources and improve your own genepool?

          You generalize that these so called “hostile groups” are all the same, in other words, all members of the group behave the same when they don’t. For instance, ALL blacks are not ghetto blacks, or savage blacks like you’d see in Rhodesia etc…

          It’s pretty easy to see who the bad blacks are, and to focus on them alone.

        • Jason Y

          HA, funny how white nationalists deny the holocaust, yet ep-gah is the biggest fan of genocide on the planet, lol.

          If WNs are so scared of hostile groups, then it seems natural we would expect they’d wipe out the Jews.

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          Do you really NOT understand the moral difference between killing everyone of a given race to takeover and ruin a country, vs. killing the weak of your own to save resources and improve your own genepool?

          So you favor killing the disabled like the Nazis did? Didn’t you say you went to church once? How can you compromise your Christian beliefs with some quote “savagery” ?

          Anyhow, who’s to judge what is weak?. Isn’t that calling things a little too soon? It’s not really giving anyone a chance.

          Savage is savage. You can’t condemn blacks burning alive a Mississippi white teen, and then go and say killing the disabled is a good way to go.

        • Jason Y

          In reference ot ep-gah’s writing,

          No we don’t need to save our resources by killing the disabled. First of all it’s savage and immoral. Second, our modern world has plenty of resources and what not, not like in Roman or Greek times.

          I’m sure ep-gah the hypocrite will next condemn the Aztec, but make some BS excuse for Greeks and Romans murdering infants.

        • EPGAH

          Where do you see I’m in favor of genocide? Unless you count overwriting the bad culture of Blacks with a better one? That is exterminating the culture, which TECHNICALLY counts as genocide, but is that really a loss?

          And once again, savage IS savage, but not all violence is savage.
          Killing those that attack us is not savage. It is also not genocide, because we’re not wiping out EVERYONE, just a specific group, by your own words.
          Savages wiped out ALL the whites!

          As to judging them all, sadly it’s true with Blacks as far as track record goes. If it was ONLY the ones in Haiti, or ONLY the ones in America, or ONLY the ones in Papua, or ONLY the ones in Zaire, or ONLY the ones in South Africa, then you’d have a point, but the majority of them, REGARDLESS OF CONTINENT, act like that!

          And even in America, when we shoot the bad Blacks, other Blacks throw riots to punish the punishers, right?

          To add more to your point, the way how Blacks just massacre whites is not just evil but stupid, not really realizing their usefulness. Or maybe they CAN’T understand the question, like Robert’s 2 kinds of stupidity article?

          About the only ones who AREN’T like that are the Igbo or the ones in Botswana. So to preserve ourselves, we have to act like they’re ALL like that, then look for the exceptions, rather than trust them all, and end up getting burnt–figuratively or literally!
          Did you ever look up “Necklacing”?

          Also, the modern world DOESN’T have “plenty of resources”, else there would be no savages trying to play keep-away with the resources, thus no wars, over oil or any other resource. We NEED the oil to make the food, and the savages NEED the food or they starve…Right?
          So why are they playing keep-away with the resources? Just to be dicks?

        • EPGAH

          Also, when you talk about “calling things a little too soon”, weren’t you the one that was in FAVOR of abortion? Before they have a chance to prove themselves, just kill them in the womb? My own idea of letting them get born first would seem less savage, even by your standards–unless your standards change again?

        • EPGAH

          Remember: The world STILL has limited resources. The limit is much higher because we can draw oil from previously “unprofitable” deposits now, and we can make VASTLY more food per acre than we could before, but this just EXTENDS the timer, it doesn’t STOP the timer.

          The world is still overpopulated and those who can least afford it breed the most.
          If “resources are plentiful”, why can’t these savages even feed themselves without outside–namely, OUR–help?
          If “resources are plentiful”, why can’t they MAKE a better life in their own countries, rather than steal one in ours?

          Would you call it “genocide” if we just stopped sending the savages food, money, and medicines? We wouldn’t be killing them, you know, just letting their population return to what THEY can support, instead of what WE can support. If that is a bad thing to you, WHY? Why is it our duty now to keep alive those who want to rape&murder us, and flood into and overthrow our countries?

        • Jason Y

          Also, when you talk about “calling things a little too soon”, weren’t you the one that was in FAVOR of abortion? Before they have a chance to prove themselves, just kill them in the womb? My own idea of letting them get born first would seem less savage, even by your standards–unless your standards change again?

          I’m not in favor of abortion. I see it as mostly a cheap way out of a mistake, at the cost of the child’s life. In other words, they’re using it for birth control. Also, either it’s a life or not, and I say it’s a life, even in the case of rape or incest.

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          Why should we save our enemies from disease and hunger, rather than let Lord Darwin take them?

          Or more bluntly, why DO whites keep saving savages–who only want to rob and murder us?

          Because they’re all not savages, only a minority. Your making mass generalizations. Again is your genocidal concept of “They’re all bad, men, women and children”. What your saying is no different than Bin Laden saying the USA deserves to be nuked cause they won’t convert to Islam. Boy it’s a bitch when white Americans are the savages, isn’t it?

        • EPGAH

          Once could be a “mistake”. BUT if you say it’s OK to end a life because it’s a “mistake” or “inconvenient”, then what does that mean for ending terrorists’ lives? They’re a “mistake” so they should be ended, right?

          No, Bin Laden is killing us because we won’t surrender, and/or because we punish them for their attacks ON US!
          If the women and children aren’t bad, where do new terrorists come from?

          And how do you jump from there to America being the savages?
          Is it “savage” to hit back?
          We’re the punisher OF the savages!

          We have to hit back when they hit us.
          Or we could surrender, but that means the savages win, right?
          And given 1400 years of precedent, the savages don’t treat the vanquished kindly.
          http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/14/video-games-dvds-soccer-field-perks-gitmo-detainee/
          We treat terrorists like an S&M country club, apparently!
          http://www.zerocensorship.com/t/uncensored-beheading-video/185382-isis-beheading-4-kurdish-peshmerga-soldiers-graphic-video
          This is how savages treat their captives.

        • EPGAH

          PS, earlier you said that the savages behaved savagely because they were fatherless families. That would imply that ONLY the women and children are to blame, right?
          Or are you changing the rules again?

        • Jason Y

          Remember: The world STILL has limited resources. The limit is much higher because we can draw oil from previously “unprofitable” deposits now, and we can make VASTLY more food per acre than we could before, but this just EXTENDS the timer, it doesn’t STOP the timer.

          The world is still overpopulated and those who can least afford it breed the most.
          If “resources are plentiful”, why can’t these savages even feed themselves without outside–namely, OUR–help?
          If “resources are plentiful”, why can’t they MAKE a better life in their own countries, rather than steal one in ours?

          Would you call it “genocide” if we just stopped sending the savages food, money, and medicines? We wouldn’t be killing them, you know, just letting their population return to what THEY can support, instead of what WE can support. If that is a bad thing to you, WHY? Why is it our duty now to keep alive those who want to rape&murder us, and flood into and overthrow our countries?

          If Africans are as bad as you say, then they will eventually destroy themselves, even with food and medicine. However, you can’t fault the west, or say the west was inhumane, because we have no intention of stopping food and medicine.

          Also, again, you can’t make Africa pay for the fact white nations have a low birthrate. Finally, if there were progressive governments, which BTW the far right opposes, in third world nations, you’d have the birth rate crashing down. For instance, Robert noted progressive provinces in India have seen lower birthrates.

        • Jason Y

          Oh Gosh. @@ I saw 6 African math graduate students at a math club yesterday. THAT CAN’T HAPPEN. lol It must be affirmative action.

        • Jason Y

          It’s a fact peasants breed like rabbits. As long as no real opportunities and health benefits etc.. are given to women other than laying around the house, they will keep churning out kids.

        • EPGAH

          “we have no intention of stopping food and medicine.”

          Why not? Is this the new version of Rudyard Kipling’s “White Man’s Burden”? It’s somehow our JOB to stop Lord Darwin from culling the excess? Why are whites and only whites expected to suborn our interests–and even our survival–and support our past and future enemies?

          Don’t get me wrong. Breeding like rabbits is completely OK IF AND ONLY IF something is killing off the excess population. Africa has always bred like rabbits, but disease, starvation, and their fellow savages kept the population low.

          Now the Civilized World’s food and medicine keep Lord Darwin at bay, so UNICEF and some others claim Africa will equal the whole WORLD’S population in 1994 by the middle of the century. This is unsustainable in the worst sense of the word. Plus when the savages think we’re not giving them enough, they’ll invade our countries. If we stopped the food and medicine, it would be a cheap way out of THAT particular mistake!

          I notice you backed off your claim that Americans are the savages because we refused to JOIN the savages. I guess that didn’t even make sense to you anymore?

  2. RockT

    No one life matters so much as to force society to conform to it, that is ridiculous. Order and progress matter (real progress, not “progressive” progress).

  3. Jason Y

    The rock and roll lifestyle can be deceptive. With all the problems caused by it, kids should have listened to thier “Leave it to Beaver” parents.😆

    • RockT

      As much as I love Rock n’ Roll (music, always hated the lifestyle) I cannot help but agree with you 100% here Jason. We need to return to the previous way, it was built to last a bit longer that deliberate entropy (but it’s so rad bro!)

      • EPGAH

        Which previous way do we go to? 1980s? 1950s?
        I was surprised to read TULIO speaking out in favor of returning to 1950s, but that aside, entropy has recently been redubbed “Progress”.

        • Jason Y

          Some thihgs were great about the 50s but not everything. Segregation was still big, as well all sorts of other oppression. Of course, the moral simplicity and purity was nice, but there is really know way to go back to that. Among communities now we see rapid drug use etc.. For instance, among the white community, doing legal presecription drugs (pain pills) has been a huge problem.

        • EPGAH

          You have previously come out in FAVOR of segregation, are you going to deny that now?

          And there IS a way to go back to that, stop allowing “Shades Of Gray” bullshit. Tell Black Lies Matter, the whiners on campus, and various SJW groups to shut the hell up.

          Promote those who do right and shame those who do wrong, and you’d be surprised how fast everything goes back to right. Maybe it IS simplistic, but I believe most of our societal problems stem from bad parenting. Notably, lack of punishment when someone does something wrong.

          A thug attacks a cop and gets shot…Should the thug be a martyr, or should everyone join in a slow-clap and say “Good Riddance”? Or should it be ignored, the same way we ignore living in a nitrogen-rich atmosphere and the sky being blue?

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          You have previously come out in FAVOR of segregation, are you going to deny that now?

          And there IS a way to go back to that, stop allowing “Shades Of Gray” bullshit. Tell Black Lies Matter, the whiners on campus, and various SJW groups to shut the hell up.

          Promote those who do right and shame those who do wrong, and you’d be surprised how fast everything goes back to right. Maybe it IS simplistic, but I believe most of our societal problems stem from bad parenting. Notably, lack of punishment when someone does something wrong.

          A thug attacks a cop and gets shot…Should the thug be a martyr, or should everyone join in a slow-clap and say “Good Riddance”? Or should it be ignored, the same way we ignore living in a nitrogen-rich atmosphere and the sky being blue?

          I’m in favor of the segregation of criminals, serving time and out on the street, not innocent people (average blacks, Mexicans etc..) who haven’t done anything. Jim Crow laws made segregation against ALL blacks etc..

        • EPGAH

          Earlier you said you were in favor of segregating the savages away from the innocent. You even came out AGAINST paroling people who did the worst crimes. You gave some anecdote about a murderer getting paroled, committing ANOTHER murder…almost like it didn’t learn a damn thing.

          Now you change your story?
          AS A GROUP, Blacks are more violent than whites. Robert Lindsay and others have PLENTY of articles about that.
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/12/07/on-black-male-violence/
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/why-race-is-important/
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/the-genesis-of-black-minority-problems-in-a-non-black-society/
          Were you not paying attention? So it would make sense to keep THAT GROUP away, until they EARNED their way into civilization’s good graces, right?

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          Earlier you said you were in favor of segregating the savages away from the innocent. You even came out AGAINST paroling people who did the worst crimes. You gave some anecdote about a murderer getting paroled, committing ANOTHER murder…almost like it didn’t learn a damn thing.

          Now you change your story?
          AS A GROUP, Blacks are more violent than whites. Robert Lindsay and others have PLENTY of articles about that.
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/12/07/on-black-male-violence/
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/why-race-is-important/
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/the-genesis-of-black-minority-problems-in-a-non-black-society/
          Were you not paying attention? So it would make sense to keep THAT GROUP away, until they EARNED their way into civilization’s good graces, right?

          You can’t judge by the group, only the sub-group. You can only judge the sub-group commiting crimes. Looking at African Americans, for example, only so many adults and minors are actually commiting crimes. The vast majority of Afro-Americans are boring and average, not ghetto types.

          Hey, If you want to use the same logic, then why not back Islamic terrorism. They claim ALL Americans are heathen that deserve to die or convert. Hmmm ???

        • EPGAH

          So how do you tell the “boring” Blacks from the ones who loot and pillage? Or the “peaceful” Moslems from the “Convert Or Die” ones?

          And why aren’t the “peaceful” ones stopping the violent ones? In fact, how many of the “boring” ones are joining in the whining when one of the violent ones get put paid to?

        • Jason Y

          So how do you tell the “boring” Blacks from the ones who loot and pillage? Or the “peaceful” Moslems from the “Convert Or Die” ones?

          And why aren’t the “peaceful” ones stopping the violent ones? In fact, how many of the “boring” ones are joining in the whining when one of the violent ones get put paid to?

          Maybe the problem lies in the fact people don’t like racial profiling. For instance, if most blacks are boring, then they would heavily resent being seen as a ghetto black when they are not.

          Maybe a better solution would be for average blacks to get away from the bad ones. Then it would be more clear to cops who were bad and who were good. Also, the average blacks need to feel like the law is for them, protecting thier interests.

          It can happen. For instance, upper class mulattoes in Haiti have the cops on thier side, and they are incredibly snobby toward the poor blacks, not saying that’s always a good thing though.

        • Jason Y

          Of course, you also have to remember blacks have a painful history of white terrorism directed against them since slavery. Therefore, probably most blacks don’t like the cops. That’s a huge problem, because we would need the average blacks, as I said before, to feel like law enforcement are thier friends.

        • EPGAH

          OK, and again, how will you KEEP the bad Blacks separate without some kind of physical barrier? Your solution “To get away” is not really a solution, that’s what spurred the fleeing to the suburbs in the 80s and early 90s…and guess what? THUGS FOLLOWED THEM!
          Unless you have a way to prevent your enemy from following, retreating only SPREADS the problem, not SOLVES it!

          Compare and contrast Detroit’s suburbs to say, Chicago’s suburbs.
          Which did a more effective job of keeping the problem from spreading, and how?

          I don’t know if average blacks feel the law is for them, but there was a lot of Black Flight from Detroit in 1967 also, which implies they figured out Black criminals were NOT their friends! Therefore, these should support the cops, given “Enemy Of My Enemy” Moral Calculus, right?

          As to your Haiti example, bad example, the mulattoes were the ones who led the overthrow of civilization in Haiti in the first place, so they naturally have the dominant position in the new, fucked-up country.
          And strangely, there don’t seem to be any intellectuals trying to tear their hierarchy down. AKA They don’t have an SJW problem!

        • EPGAH

          Terrorism? Or scaring them into behaving?
          Or are they PROFILING all whites as KKK the way they bitch about being PROFILED as all ghetto thugs?

          Tell me, did you look up the Stono or Vesey Rebellion? Or the Haiti Massacre? What word would you use to describe that, if not terrorism? What about that girl who was burned to death?
          http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/20/u-s-gang-members-linked-mississippi-teen-girl-burned-alive/

          I’d say that historically speaking, whites have far more to fear of Black terrorism, than the reverse, don’t you?

          Assuming honest cops, law-enforcement are the friend of all who are honest. It seems Blacks decided to make themselves something to defend society FROM, rather than something to defend, don’t you think?

        • Jason Y

          Terrorism? Or scaring them into behaving?
          Or are they PROFILING all whites as KKK the way they bitch about being PROFILED as all ghetto thugs?

          Tell me, did you look up the Stono or Vesey Rebellion? Or the Haiti Massacre? What word would you use to describe that, if not terrorism? What about that girl who was burned to death?
          http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/20/u-s-gang-members-linked-mississippi-teen-girl-burned-alive/

          I’d say that historically speaking, whites have far more to fear of Black terrorism, than the reverse, don’t you?

          Assuming honest cops, law-enforcement are the friend of all who are honest. It seems Blacks decided to make themselves something to defend society FROM, rather than something to defend, don’t you think?

          These were drug dealers. That’s how they behave. Haven’t you seen Scarface? That’s horrible what happened, but how did she get mixed up with these “ghetto blacks”?

          Yeah I’m all for shooting bad guys on the spot, no matter what race. However, with all this liberal glamorizing of drugs (like the recent pot legalization in Colorado etc..), how can I get people to see drug dealers and hoodlums as being bad guys?

        • Jason Y

          Ep-gah always ignores the fact in the case of Haiti etc.. that the whites made slaves of the blacks. Also savagery in war is always common. The US did it on Germany, Japan and Vietnam via air power etc..

        • Jason Y

          I don’t know if average blacks feel the law is for them, but there was a lot of Black Flight from Detroit in 1967 also, which implies they figured out Black criminals were NOT their friends! Therefore, these should support the cops, given “Enemy Of My Enemy” Moral Calculus, right?

          OK, so that shows most average blacks detest ghetto blacks for sure.

        • EPGAH

          Yes, whites made slaves of the Blacks. We kept them alive to do work for us. Should we have killed them instead?
          Do you forget the savages had whites as slaves for over 700 years? If you want to go for simple moral arguments, “They Owed Us”!

          Did you read Dave Mower’s response to your Moral Relativism?
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/02/27/even-better-than-whitelivesmatter/#comment-253769

          TLDR: Whites KILL other whites to save savage lives, savages just massacre the whites. This means whites have a better recognition of evil than nonwhites, right? And more importantly, we RESIST EVIL, even from other whites. Savages allow, if not encourage, their fellows to do evil!

          And no, that doesn’t show blacks “detest” Ghetto Blacks, they were just fleeing for their survival, and/or keeping what’s theirs theirs.

        • EPGAH

          The easiest way to show drug dealers as the Bad Guys is show the crazed addicts, broken families, etc.

        • Jason Y

          Yes, whites made slaves of the Blacks. We kept them alive to do work for us. Should we have killed them instead?

          The whites didn’t have to go to Africa. Anyhow, were European nations and African ones at war? Not that I know of.

          Do you forget the savages had whites as slaves for over 700 years? If you want to go for simple moral arguments, “They Owed Us”!

          That was Muslims, not sub-Sahran Africans. Anyhow, two wrongs don’t make a right anyhow.

        • Jason Y

          TLDR: Whites KILL other whites to save savage lives, savages just massacre the whites. This means whites have a better recognition of evil than nonwhites, right? And more importantly, we RESIST EVIL, even from other whites. Savages allow, if not encourage, their fellows to do evil!

          And no, that doesn’t show blacks “detest” Ghetto Blacks, they were just fleeing for their survival, and/or keeping what’s theirs theirs.

          I never said anyone should save savage lives (in reference to ghetto blacks only). Yes, blacks left for selfish reasons. Why not? Didn’t the whites leave for the same reason?

        • EPGAH

          Two wrongs suddenly don’t make a right? Then why were you bringing up whites had the savages as slaves? The way you phrased it implied heavily that the whites deserved to be massacred for having slaves, AKA two wrongs DO make a right?

          As to the blacks, if the blacks left for the same reason, then they should be in total support of anything the whites have to do to keep the NEW place crime-free, right? You were saying we had to find a way to make them feel cops are on their side. How about reminding them they fled the absence of cops?

        • EPGAH

          If your excuse is “whites didn’t have to go to Africa” then you’re blaming the victims for being in the “wrong” place. Why shouldn’t whites settle every continent and make it better? Raise Standards of Living worldwide?

          BUT if you believe the “Wrong Place” excuse, then savages don’t HAVE to go into white-majority countries and take them over and fuck them up, right?

        • Jason Y

          There’s a BIG difference between making people slaves (as in Haiti) and policing ghetto blacks in the modern USA. Why would you want to put those two ideas together?

        • Jason Y

          If your excuse is “whites didn’t have to go to Africa” then you’re blaming the victims for being in the “wrong” place. Why shouldn’t whites settle every continent and make it better? Raise Standards of Living worldwide?

          BUT if you believe the “Wrong Place” excuse, then savages don’t HAVE to go into white-majority countries and take them over and fuck them up, right?

          They didn’t have to go to Africa with the intention of making slaves of the locals, or to be fair, buy slaves from African tribes. I suppose I would put the fault at greed and the current European culture of the time which saw nothing wrong with it. Nonetheless, and especially considering the abuse in Haiti, the enslaved had a right to be angry and want to massacre the whites.

        • Jason Y

          Gain ep-gah brings up the dumb idea that blacks enslaved whites. Well, that’s stupid. If it was true that blacks enslaved whites, then right there, that would prove whites are not a superior race. Also, anyway, the blacks never enslaved the whites. It was the North African Muslims who are white or mixed black/white. Technically, sub-saharan people didn’t do anything to Europeans.

          Of course, given that the sub-saharan Africans were very backward, a reason why they were easily enslaved by Europeans, they could have never attacked Europe and subjected it to slavery. How stupid @ lol

        • Jason Y

          A lot of sub-saharan black nations, maybe all of them, hadn’t even developed the wheel, yet ep-gah jerks off to fantasies of medevil Africans invading and raping feudal Europe, lol.

        • EPGAH

          What “abuse”? How was the white treatment of savage slaves worse than say, the Barbary Pirates’ treatment of those they enslaved? Or the Moors who enslaved Europe for 700 years?

          Make up your mind. You earlier claimed two wrongs don’t make a right, but now you say that the whites of Haiti “deserved” it for buying the savages as slaves. Which is it?

        • EPGAH

          Hey, how DID savages who hadn’t developed the wheel overthrow South Africa? Maybe because they DIDN’T develop the wheel, they put tires to the ghastly new purpose of “Necklacing”?

          Savages don’t have to have technology to destroy their betters, merely more numerous and more violent. It helps of course, if the victims are too civilized to fight back. Take the Mongol overthrow of China, or the Germanic barbarian overthrow of Rome, or Mexico’s transformation of California?

        • Jason Y

          Ep-gah keeps ignoring the fact North African Muslims are not sub-saharan Africans. The two groups are vastly different. In fact, the muslims enslaved sub-saharan Afrricans

          Sub-saharan Africans have no record of ever invading, or even setting foot in medevil Europe.

          Ep-gah’s got a very weak argument here with not basis.

          Of course, yeah, invading Muslims are assholes and they did conquer much of Europe for a good deal of time. So why not get revenge on the Muslims instead of pagan African tribes to the south of the Muslims?

        • Jason Y

          Hey, how DID savages who hadn’t developed the wheel overthrow South Africa? Maybe because they DIDN’T develop the wheel, they put tires to the ghastly new purpose of “Necklacing”?

          Savages don’t have to have technology to destroy their betters, merely more numerous and more violent. It helps of course, if the victims are too civilized to fight back. Take the Mongol overthrow of China, or the Germanic barbarian overthrow of Rome, or Mexico’s transformation of California?

          Your ignoring the main topic being discussed. I was saying that sub-saharan Africans did not invade, nor worm their way into (as in Mexicans in California etc..), medeivl Europe. They didn’t have the technology for a military invasion, and there was no mass transportation so they could worm thier way into the area. Anyhow, they wouldn’t have wanted to immigrate to medevil Europe anyhow.

  4. EPGAH

    Metallica is NOT nihilistic, otherwise they would not have sued Napster out of existence! If nothing mattered, they wouldn’t be bothered suing!

    • They are Black Metal, right?

      “Known widely as Black metal or the Satanic Metal Underground, this latest genre represents the hardest strain of heavy metal, emphasizing cold-blooded murder, hate and prejudice, nihilism, and the unbridled expression of masculine lust.”

      Jack Levin and Jack McDevitt (2002). Hate Crimes Revisited: America’s war against those who are different. Westview Press. p. 41.

      #nolivesmatter

      • Hasdrubal

        Metallica was always a bit different than the pure nihilism of a lot of black metal. Their first album Kill Em All is an almost perfect syntheses of speed metal and hardcore punk and the trappings of nihilism that implies. Their next 3 albums is where they really start to to depart from the formula with an increase of both musicianship and lyrical complexity. I consider the 2nd 3rd and 4th albums Metallica to be the pinnacle of the Heavy Metal genre. They tackled subjects like drug addiction and war and it’s after effects with an emotional resonance rare in the genre. …And Justice For All (their 4th album) is as much an art rock album as a speed or black metal album.

        • You guys keep protesting that your favorite movies and bands are not really nihilistic. You say that as if it’s a bad thing. I’m rather partial to nihilism myself, but then, I’m a 58 year old punk rocker.

          #nolivesmatter

        • EPGAH

          Nihilism IS a bad thing, it’s suicide on a civilization-wide, if not species-wide Level!
          Like the Frederick Pohl short story, where the sound from space makes everyone forget to eat?

          “Tolerance and apathy are the last ‘virtues’ of a dying civilization”, right?
          Name That Quote!

        • Hasdrubal

          I just don’t think it’s fair to compare the nihilism of a band like Slayer who has peons to Necrophilia with Metallica who are a lot more nuanced though I would agree does have a strain of nihilism running through their best work, but it is far more nuanced than being just pure nihilism. Then again my favorite punk band is The Clash so I’m probably not a very good nihilist.

        • EPGAH

          PS, Metallica is NOT my favorite band, I blame them for killing Napster.
          And yes, I know Roxio bought it out, but it was nothing like the same.
          Or rather, same in name only?
          My favorite is actually ABBA, and a lot of people give me blank stares when I bring up that name as if I just asked them what the capital of Luxembourg is.

        • Hasdrubal

          Luxembourg City. Next Question.
          ABBA? I would’ve guessed something old school country and western in your case maybe Hank Sr or Marty Robbins or maybe just maybe Johnny Rebel.

        • Jason Y

          ABBA? Gosh, Ep-gah really takes this blonde haired blue eyed nordicism seriously, lol.

        • Your favorite band is ABBA? LOL that is so gay, dude.

        • Jason Y

          quote by Robert Lindsay

          Your favorite band is ABBA? LOL that is so gay, dude.

          I do see some hypocrisy here, considering ep-gah’s view of gays.

        • EPGAH

          How is that queer? ABBA were very heterosexual, plus married. Then they divorced and exchanged spouses! But that’s still hetero!

      • EPGAH

        Then I’d say it’s a case of actions not matching words–or lyrics, in this case?

        But OFFICIALLY, Metallica is considered “Thrash Metal”
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrash_metal
        “Thrash metal was an inspiration for subsequent extreme genres such as death metal and black metal.
        “Four American bands, Anthrax, Megadeth, Metallica, and Slayer, are credited with pioneering and popularizing the genre.”

        https://www.reddit.com/r/Metal/comments/2e1e2d/is_metallica_considered_metal_or_am_i_deluded/
        Reddit here has a debate if they’re even metal at all, or “just” hard rock!

        • Jason Y

          Never liked Metallica, but Alice in Chains and Soundgarden were great. Of course, just an opinion. Rage against the Machine is actually talented, but the lyrics are annoyingly too anti-white and left wing.

          Red Hot Chilli Peppers? I suppose they’re pretty talented, but some of thier stuff sucks and they’re massively over-rated, over-played and given favortism by the media.

        • EPGAH

          Wow, something too anti-white and left-wing for you?

          And there was exactly ONE song I liked of Metallica, I’ll leave you to guess which one that was.

          We agree on Red Hot Chili Peppers…But then, can’t you say the same thing of ANY of the modern “artists”? “massively over-rated, over-played and given favortism by the media.”

        • Jason Y

          Wow, something too anti-white and left-wing for you?

          I’m not interested in preachy music, also considering I think both whites and non-whites are evil to some degree.

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          We agree on Red Hot Chili Peppers…But then, can’t you say the same thing of ANY of the modern “artists”? “massively over-rated, over-played and given favortism by the media.”

          Not if thier stuff is really good, but so much lame stuff coming from the Chili Peppers.

        • Hasdrubal

          I’m guessing the Metallica song you like is Anesthesia Pulling Teeth because you’re all about that bass bout that bass.

        • EPGAH

          No, I’m NOT all about the bass, guess again!

        • Hasdrubal

          Anesthesia Pulling Teeth is a solo bass guitar song by their original bassist Cliff Burton. I just made the comment for the joke.

        • EPGAH

          I know, but from real life to DEATHKLOK, bass guitarists are usually considered/treated as expendable and replaceable as light bulbs!

        • EPGAH

          Yes, that was a great movie, wasn’t it? They go through drummers the way real bands go through bass guitarists!

    • Jason Y

      Actually, you can’t stop technological progress. If it turns out consumers find a new way to get songs, you shouldn’t be a dick and sue the fans. I suppose you have to find a new way get money out of them.

      Of course, music companies have done even dirtier things, like put viruses on free download websites.

      Yeah, I do think artists deserve to get paid what they’re worth, but the problem is evolution of technology.

      • EPGAH

        There are whole COMPANIES formed around putting viruses in free downloads, OR “poisoning” Torrents, etc.

        As to paid what they’re worth, ever heard the joke about the difference between what you ARE worth and what you THINK you’re worth?

        How many of these fans are downloading for free to make a political statement, and how many because the “artists” charge too damn much?
        When they talk in one sentence about how much free downloads “hurt” them, and in the next breath brag about their new 8-figure house purchase, my sympathy for them kind of dies on the vine.

        As to find a new way to get money out of them, that’s absolutely right!
        True Collectors/Believers could pay to get liner notes, or something, right?
        Or the way they charge now for autographs or live concerts.

        • Jason Y

          Come on ep-gah. I thought you were a hardcore capitalist? Your saying rock stars don’t deserve the money they make? I say they deserve the money, even though some of them may been spoiled douchebags, much as professional athletes are.

        • Jason Y

          There are whole COMPANIES formed around putting viruses in free downloads, OR “poisoning” Torrents, etc.

          Honestly though, free downloads on napster are illegal due to copyright laws, whether we like it or not. Nonetheless, artists should have recognized the “free download age” as a turning point in music and embraced other ways to make money.

        • EPGAH

          Honestly, though, what happened to “I Buy It, It’s Mine”?
          If I choose to throw it up in the air and shoot it, or staple two breadsticks to it and make a lowbudget Enterprise, that’s my choice…
          So why is it NOT my choice to share it with the masses? After all, aren’t we supposed to share?

          Additionally, in the Internet, people are more generous because there is no Physical Singularity. In the real world, if I give you something, from a paperclip to a battleship, I no longer have it. In the virtual world, I can give you something…and I still have it!

          3D printers were supposed to bring that same concept to the real world, but then they made the plastic substrate super-expensive, so although you CAN download anything from a gun to a house, in most cases it’s cheaper to buy the real thing.

          But I digress. The fight isn’t about copying, it’s about control. If they were REALLY upset about copying, they’d go after China or Russia, who copies everything from us. I’d even go so far as to say copyright is a uniquely American thing. China clearly doesn’t respect anyone else’s copyrights, even sued QualComm a BILLION DOLLARS for trying to hang onto their IP. The EU smashed a few patents, particularly those of Microsoft, because they “stifle competition”.

        • Jason Y

          Honestly, though, what happened to “I Buy It, It’s Mine”?
          If I choose to throw it up in the air and shoot it, or staple two breadsticks to it and make a lowbudget Enterprise, that’s my choice…
          So why is it NOT my choice to share it with the masses? After all, aren’t we supposed to share?

          Additionally, in the Internet, people are more generous because there is no Physical Singularity. In the real world, if I give you something, from a paperclip to a battleship, I no longer have it. In the virtual world, I can give you something…and I still have it!

          3D printers were supposed to bring that same concept to the real world, but then they made the plastic substrate super-expensive, so although you CAN download anything from a gun to a house, in most cases it’s cheaper to buy the real thing.

          But I digress. The fight isn’t about copying, it’s about control. If they were REALLY upset about copying, they’d go after China or Russia, who copies everything from us. I’d even go so far as to say copyright is a uniquely American thing. China clearly doesn’t respect anyone else’s copyrights, even sued QualComm a BILLION DOLLARS for trying to hang onto their IP. The EU smashed a few patents, particularly those of Microsoft, because they “stifle competition”.

          It takes millions to fund the mega- concerts etc.. Without the dough, it’s no show. All the money doesn’t go toward pampering the rock star, but rather to operate everything and to pay employees.

        • EPGAH

          It takes mega-millions? But it’s the fans that pay for it all.
          I just looked it up, Lopez concert tickets go for $100-416 EACH!
          You could take a family of 5 out to a nice restaurant for the $100, and $416, you could take a ghetto brood of 16!

          http://www.realtytoday.com/articles/16455/20150618/jennifer-lopez-net-worth-look-inside-17-million-california-estate.htm
          If she can afford a $17 MILLION house, I no longer feel sorry for her, if I ever did.

          http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/22/jennifer-lopez-britney-spears-las-vegas-planet-hollywood-contract-money/
          Jennifer Lopez gets $350 THOUSAND per show. Britney is “Only” making $310 THOUSAND per show.

          It doesn’t all go to pampering the stars, but they’re not suffering by any means. And again, their demands are a little ridiculous. I think I covered that in another post, right?
          If not, just do a quick search: https://www.google.com/search?q=Ridiculous+demands+by+celebrities&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

          I wouldn’t mind this so much if it was done something like the Indiegala or Humble Bundle, YOU decide how much to pay for it, and if it’s not enough to continue, they just stop. (Except there’s a new Indiegala Bundle every week, and a new Humble Bundle every year, so…)
          https://www.indiegala.com/attraction
          I would never DREAM of asking you to take my Word for this, of course!

        • Jason Y

          It takes mega-millions? But it’s the fans that pay for it all.
          I just looked it up, Lopez concert tickets go for $100-416 EACH!
          You could take a family of 5 out to a nice restaurant for the $100, and $416, you could take a ghetto brood of 16!

          http://www.realtytoday.com/articles/16455/20150618/jennifer-lopez-net-worth-look-inside-17-million-california-estate.htm
          If she can afford a $17 MILLION house, I no longer feel sorry for her, if I ever did.

          http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/22/jennifer-lopez-britney-spears-las-vegas-planet-hollywood-contract-money/
          Jennifer Lopez gets $350 THOUSAND per show. Britney is “Only” making $310 THOUSAND per show.

          It doesn’t all go to pampering the stars, but they’re not suffering by any means. And again, their demands are a little ridiculous. I think I covered that in another post, right?
          If not, just do a quick search: https://www.google.com/search?q=Ridiculous+demands+by+celebrities&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

          I wouldn’t mind this so much if it was done something like the Indiegala or Humble Bundle, YOU decide how much to pay for it, and if it’s not enough to continue, they just stop. (Except there’s a new Indiegala Bundle every week, and a new Humble Bundle every year, so…)
          https://www.indiegala.com/attraction
          I would never DREAM of asking you to take my Word for this, of course!

          I think it boils down to stealing. Stealing is a sin, even from the ultra-rich. A Biblical law has to be taken at face value.

          I mean using your logic, then why can’t ghetto blacks steal, burn, and loot from whites who obviously have more than them?

        • Jason Y

          Yeah I’m totally aware J-Lo and the other new 21st century royalty are pampered beyond human imagination. I even saw a show on TV a few years ago about the ridiculous wealth of J-Lo.

          I’m wondering though, and even though your conservative you might agree, how can these ultra-wealthy, and especially the non-white ones, keep all this wealth, knowing they have the power to stop “hunger in Africa” etc.. ??

          Of course you know, there is corruption in Africa that would swindle J-Los money. But how can she go on living with such wealth, without any guilt?

        • EPGAH

          Because stealing, burning, and looting in the physical world means the original owners don’t have those items.
          Law of Physical Singularity, remember?

          If you steal or burn anything of mine, I no longer have it!
          Do you get that?

          Copying means I have it and someone else has it.
          Thing is, you can’t really do that in the physical world. Creation ex nihilo only happens in cartoons–or in the virtual world!
          I can’t copy a car in the real world, unless I have Mass Quantities of metal (Or fiberglass), plastic, paint, etc.

          Besides, if I’m the buyer, I’d be “stealing” from myself, right?

        • Jason Y

          Oh yeah, but J-Lo has enough money to fund an army to keep out the corruption when she gives to charity. Hmmm something to think about.

        • Jason Y

          If wealth of the ultra-wealthy provides jobs to the poor then it’s no sin. But I think a lot of it goes toward buying more expensive building materials, and that would be a massive sin in my book.

          So J-Los big home mostly cost a lot to fund the location and the building material, not to pay poor employees.

        • EPGAH

          Why should she feel guilty? Not her fault Third Worlders try to outbreed cockroaches. Or that their fellow savages pocket the aid from the Civilized World. Also not her fault that most African countries have reinstated slavery.

          Gee, if only there was a group that was AGAINST corruption–or at least knew it was bad–that could take the country back and make it right again! OH, YEAH! That’s Colonialism, and it’s arbitrarily assigned as “bad”!

          About the only way Lopez has any kind of guilt is when she accepted $10 MILLION to play for the Turkmenistan dictator! (Yes, that’s a real country!)
          http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/jennifer-lopez-criticised-over-controversial-concert-for-turkmenistan-dictator-8680590.html

        • EPGAH

          If J-Lo did as you suggested and funded an army to stop the corruption…
          Gee, that sounds like CONQUEST, AKA IMPERIALISM!

          This is arbitrarily assigned as “bad” too, even though it would manifestly make the savages’ lives better, and possibly even make the “world better” although the latter is a lot more subjective…

        • EPGAH

          It cost a lot to fund the location, huh? Would that be arbitrary? Or because of Physical Singularity? I.e., if she builds HER house there, noone else can build THEIR house there too?

          Land is expensive mostly in areas that are pretty and SAFE, right?
          And Superman Returns aside, they’re not making more of it. Therefore, land is LIMITED!
          Ironically, that really IS the environment, which you blame all other ills on, so why not this too?

        • Jason Y

          Ep-gah brought up J-Lo has too much money (for the record). He’s contradicting his own thinking, again.

          First he says she’s the pampered rich, and next he says she totally deserves her money, big house etc…

  5. EPGAH

    The MATRIX wasn’t that nihilist, it was that people would prefer a pleasant (computer-induced) dream over the ugly reality, and SJWs are proving that in SPADES!

    • What’s the name of that hollowed out book that Thomas A. Anderson is pretending to read? What is the name of the chapter where he stores his secret notes?

      What exactly is Agent Smith ranting about in the sequel?

      #nolivesmatter

      • EPGAH

        I don’t know the book. I will have to watch it later.

        But the ranting, depends on WHICH MATRIX rant you’re talking about. In the first movie, he calls humans a disease, because we spread and consume resources. “Humans Need To Die So The Planet Can Live”…Where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah… MATRIX 1 SMITH IS AN SJW!

        In the second one, he “thanks” Neo for setting him free, then wants to bring order back to the MATRIX, and overthrow the Machine Order, by replacing everything in the MATRIX with himself! Like the old joke says, SJW’s are just totalitarians restrained by a veneer of respectability. When Neo, showing off, jumped INTO Smith, it set Smith free from the Machine Constraints…

        Or were you talking about his rant in #3,

        “Why do you do it? Why keep getting up? Are you fighting for more than your survival? Are you gonna tell me what it is? Do you even KNOW?! Is it freedom or truth? Peace? Could it be for love? Illusions, vagaries of perception! Constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose! All of them as artificial as the MATRIX itself! “Only a HUMAN mind could invent something as insipid as ‘love’!” (This is Fantastic Racism at its purest: HE HATES HUMANS!) “You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson and know it by now! You can’t win, it’s pointless to keep fighting! WHY, Mr. Anderson, WHY do you keep fighting?”

        I thought this was only a machine version of trash talk, “Give up already, you can’t win”, only turned into a soliloquy worthy of Hamlet!

        Or were you talking about the Merovingian’s rant that choice is an illusion, we’re all completely out of control?

        • It is his rant in #3. That’s straight up nihilism right there. Doesn’t get anymore stark than that.

          #nolivesmatter

        • EPGAH

          OK, if nothing’s worth fighting for, why is HE fighting? Why is he overwriting all living things in the MATRIX with himself? What is HE fighting for? A “true” nihilist would be peaceful due to the same arguments he gives Neo, right?

        • Lots of nihlists keep carrying on. Nietzsche kept writing. The Dadaists kept writing and making art. Derrida and Lyotard kept writing until they died.

          The punkers kept playing. The metal bands kept playing and some even got rich.

          Nihilism doesn’t mean giving up.

        • EPGAH

          So all Smith wants to do is fight? Or takeover and be king of this artificial construct?
          But if so, that makes him a hypocrite, UNLESS he was just telling NEO how “pointless” everything was to get him to give up!

      • EPGAH

        Is THIS the rant you meant? It’s in the final movie, not the second one. Turns out my memory of it was almost verbatim accurate!

    • Agent Smith: Why, Mr. Anderson? Why, why? Why do you do it? Why? Why get up? Do you believe you’re fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace – could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson, vagaries of perception.

      Temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose! And all of them as artificial as the Matrix itself. Although, only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love. You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson, you must know it by now! You can’t win, it’s pointless to keep fighting! Why, Mr. Anderson, why?! why do you persist?!

      Neo: Because I choose to.

      #nolivesmatter

  6. EPGAH

    Sounds like he brought the Reagan Revolution to Germany. Reindustrialized, yes, but also reinvigorated a people who basically considered themselves defeated.

    “There is for the first time since the war a general sense of security. The people are more cheerful. There is a greater sense of general gaiety of spirit throughout the land. It is a happier Germany.”

    Compare that to the doom Americans feel now.

  7. EPGAH

    From the essay, “Cooking With Conservatives” by Porter at The Kakistocracy, 2015
    “If one were endowed with cool indifference to its resolution, this would be a campy good time to live in America. The sober earnestness of actually building a civilization having long since succumbed to a lascivious frisson in tearing it apart. And isn’t the latter always more fun? It is almost possible to hear the satisfied little-boy engine noises coming from the left and their attached pseudo-conservative homunculi. Each one punctuating another fallen pillar of what had been so carefully constructed.

    yeeeaawww…free speech and association
    Brrrrum…nation-states
    Eeeeeyap…heterosexual marriage
    Whooosh…safety and social capital

    Boom, crash, and bap it went until–in only a fraction of the time it took to create–the little boy is left banging rubble against rock. The age of two vast and trunkless legs having arrived without even a bugle note of pomp. And a civilization that once wrapped its hands around the moon, now fumbles to swipe its EBT.”

    That first sentence is the problem, though: We can’t enjoy this shit because we’re LIVING it. Titanic was a very profitable movie–because we’re not LIVING it. “Humor=Tragedy+Time”, right? (Mark Twain)

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/humor-sapiens/201209/when-do-tragedies-become-funny
    There’s a long writeup about it here.
    The main idea is that small tragedies, or mishaps (what the authors call benign violations), are more likely to generate humor if they happened to you or to a close friend. On the other hand, large misfortunes are funnier when they are inflicted on other people.

    The destruction of Western Civilization, everything our ancestors built up, and all the amenities that make our lives better than the savages–and usually the ostensible reason the savages pour into our countries–is a “large misfortune”, right?

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