Why Most Whites Oppose White Priders

Horatio hits the nail on the head here:

I think the reason we have so many against White pride etc is BECAUSE we are individualistic. It takes some audacious individuality for a population to have members who support it becoming a minority AND having such a view tolerated as just another political point of view.

I think this kind of proves my point. We’re so rebellious, we even tolerate what essentially is ethnic treason as an idea. I couldn’t imagine China being a country OK with Chinese running around saying that China needs to look more like Mauritius.

We don’t even view ourselves as “a people” anymore, and the thought that we could act like the “savages” and have a group identity seems an anathema to them.

Somehow this got off the ground, and it got off the ground because people were able to break away from the previous conformity to create a new one.

Exactly. Someone finally figures it out and gets it! I have been thinking along these lines myself for quite some time now, but I never put it all together the way this fellow did. If you cannot figure this post out, read it over and over again until you do. Horatio gets it. Everyone else must also.

The problem here is that one of the greatest strengths of the West – anticonformist individualism -not the same thing as laissez faire capitalist individualism – is also used by Whites to paradoxically destroy not only their own people but also their own majority-ethnic White lands themselves. Our own greatness is turned against us by ourselves! The problem here is that almost all White priders continue to promote laissez-faire radical individualism. This philosophy is not only against the historical principles of egalitarianism and justice that Whites also solely promote but is also the principal philosophy behind the dismantling of White people and White countries themselves.

White priders say they want to save White people and White countries. Fine. They have a right to their own views. In particular, historical White values such as freedom of speech for unpopular opinions grants them that right. But White priders will never get anywhere until they abandon radical individualism, the cancer that eats at the heart of their very own movement. They must instead adopt at least a modicum of communalism and collectivism necessary for an ethnic nationalist movement to survive.

White priders just don’t get it. They can’t see the forest for the trees. As such, they are hoisted on their own petard. It is hard to feel sorry for a suidical movement, and that is what the White prider movement is at the end of the day. The saddest thing is that they will never see this.

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174 responses to “Why Most Whites Oppose White Priders

  1. Punjabi Sardar

    This sounds culturally bias, specifially limited to Germanics as they seem to be the ones ‘uplifted’ by Christianity.

    Doesn’t really apply to Celtics, Latins or their so called Slav brothers although all 3 are likely Danavas. Celtic & Slav for sure since they name their countries & rivers after her.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/struggle-europe-mankind/

    Even white itself is a caste system putting anglos on top of others.

    • EPGAH

      Why shouldn’t the people who BUILT the country be on top?

      Doesn’t everyone from China to MEXICO have laws that preclude non-self from getting over themselves? Mexico doesn’t allow non-self to hold public office or OWN land–only LEASE, which can be yanked at any time. Mexico even has Voter ID, which is “restrictive” or “racist” to the spoiled brats of the Civilized World.

      China goes one step further, up to the unfortunate step of allowing Chinese exemptions from quarantine because “Chinese Cannot Get Diseases”™ (Coincidentally, they had a real problem keeping bird flue under control!), and suing Qualcom for a BILLION DOLLARS for trying to keep their tech theirs instead of letting China steal it!
      Any company that tries to “partner” with China has to let China steal their tech. Once they steal the tech, they no longer need the “partner” so the “partner” gets robbed and dumped.

      Or look how some savages wait for whites to build something, then steal it, whether by force or legal trickery, from Argentina to Iran’s “Nationalization” to South Africa’s open armed robbery, to China’s “In Perpetuity Becomes 99 Years” trick. Argentina also defaulted on a MASSIVE loan from America. Whites did nothing about these MASSIVE thefts!

      Only white countries don’t, that makes whites the chumps, right?
      Do a quick search for how much of America is owned by foreign countries, from farmland in Montana to Rare Earth Mines in Colorado and California!

    • EPGAH

      Alternately, do you believe it’s just whites’ “Destiny” or “Fate” to build things for nonwhites to enjoy and destroy?

  2. Punjabi Sardar

    Explains why 1000s of them are reconverting to Sikhi. Scots-Irish (Celtic) Iberians & Romans (Latins) & many E Euros as well.

  3. SHI

    Hey, I’ve always been as anticonformist individualistic as it can get, way before I had learned to tie my shoe-laces. Where does that leave me?

    As far back as I can recall, I always found ideas of “ethnic pride” plain stupid, and devoid of logic? Sure, being surrounded by people of your own ethnic group does offer you a safety net, there is a shared sense of belonging and love for your heritage etc. But, all that rigidity really does is make you impervious to the world around you. IT AIN’T MY BAG.

    I don’t think all white people think the way you do. At least not in Europe: there, they have real fears that they’ll be swamped by people from other continents leading to the rise of far-right parties everywhere. The UK (London area) is similar to the United States in this regard and maybe some other egalitarian places like Amsterdam, Berlin and Frankfurt. Everywhere else in Europe, they have strong ethnic affiliations just like everywhere else in the world.

    It’s not just a white thing. The British don’t want their country to be swamped by job-seekers from Poland. The Poles wouldn’t like people from Ukraine to take over their country. The Baltic nations have a real problem with the Russian-speaking minority. The Austrians pretty much don’t like any non-German speaking foreigners.

    Ethnic pride is the most fertile ground for racism and other forms of bigotry. That being said, I like hanging out at Irish bars, enjoy Thai culture but can’t stand loud, Punjabi music which is a brash expression of ethnic pride. But, I’m curious about Mexican culture which is similarly brash.

    • Punjabi Sardar

      Should attack me directly, fact is ethnicity, tribe, etc are ways of organizing manpower when state power is lacking. There is the military reality of the world & your cozy delusional view of it.

      When you are attacked properly, then you will be speaking Punjabi & Saying Jai Hind!🙂

      & We’re not Punjabi We’re Jatts/Rajputs we have same gotra from UP/Bihar down to South.😉 Look same too, can tell gotra, vansh etc just from conduct. Even in Mahabharat they could tell my maternal ancestor Arjun Ji was a Ksytria by his method of walking (with chest puffed out) & not a Brighu.

    • EPGAH

      OK, but why NOT oppose people who bring not only YOU down, but your whole COUNTRY, and try to turn it into the same shithole they left?

      Come to think of it, why did they LEAVE that shithole if they were only going to make their new host into that same kind of shithole? They’re literally destroying the Better Life they came to steal!

      • Jason Y

        Your ignoring the free trade the US forced on Latin America. Who started it? Not to mention the US supports right wing regimes which promote feudalism, a way of life which encourages large families.

        Contrary to what you’ve said before, I don’t see a massive rise in immigration, or it becoming a major problem on the political scene until NAFTA etc.. Note, we had no wall in the 70s and 80s with Mexico, yet we had far less immigration, despite even at times having a powerful economy.

    • EPGAH

      Remind me again, what was our rationale for NOT helping the whites who were getting massacred by ANC terrorists?
      1.) “We’re friends with the Russians now, so the Russian pawns will stop attacking our pawns”
      2.) “Sucks to be them”
      3.) “They shouldn’t have been in that area, despite turning a desert into a country that savages would want to invade”

      And yes, Third World cultures ARE brash to the point of being obnoxious–even when they’re not violent–which is why us “Reactionaries” don’t want them around. We like having a safe, quiet, law-abiding country!

      • Jason Y

        Did South Africa make an effort to help the black people obtain a quality education and come out of poverty? Ultimately, the poverty would be fueling the anti-government, anti-aparthied violence. Whether Russia helps the ANC is beside the point, you can’t get a revolution going without an angry local base of support.

        Sure aparthied seemed unfair to many people, but it was the poverty that was more than likely pissing off the blacks.

        • EPGAH

          Yes, the whites made State-Of-The-Art schools, hospitals, even Universities.

          Apartheid was not only not unfair, the savages’ later activity proved it necessary.
          Again, why did the savages even pour in in Mass Quantity? OTHER THAN being “poor” in the Civilized World countries=being Middle Class in their own Hells, right?

          And again, THIS time I didn’t talk about the presence of Russia’s help to the terrorists, but the ABSENCE of our help to the honest people!

        • Jason Y

          Same situation was going on in South Korea when I was there. The locals were angry, revolutionary etc.. due to an economic motivation (free trade being pushed on thier nation). However, many conservative Republican types would ignore such sentiment, claiming the South Koreans should be grateful, as we were protecting them from North Korea.

          In South Africa, it would have been easy to bring up a similar justification. It could just be said, “Well, the African race is violent and needs to be controlled.”, or “We are doing you a favor by bringing civilization to South Africa, while the rest of Africa is a savage wasteland” etc..

        • EPGAH

          They were. South Africa was a desert that even the SAVAGES avoided–until the whites made something good of it.

          And again, the savages only came in to flee Shaka Zulu’s “Knocking”.

          This actually WAS a genocide. And yes, I realize how much that word is misused on the Internet.

          ONCE AGAIN: Why MURDER those who are dumb enough to let you in and protect you from your fellow savages? If you hate your betters that much, STAY OUT and take your chances with your fellow savages!

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          Yes, the whites made State-Of-The-Art schools, hospitals, even Universities.

          You could use the same argument in any colonial situation. However, how much of it is true, and how much is pompous and arrogant? Should the East Indians be putting us statutes to honor Queen Victoria rather than Gandhi?

          I will take the middle ground. I’ll say the whites did massively good things, but due to evil human nature, they also did a lot of bad. They could have improved the environment more, hence lowering the appeal of non-white revolution, but due to white greed, they chose not to.

        • EPGAH

          BTW, do you realize you hate white nationalists, but you’re retroactively supporting genocidal Black “Nationalists”–and it wasn’t even their nation?

    • Punjabi Sardar

      Although I will agree a lot of the music nris play is unnecessarily aggressive although this could be part of developing an identity/base in the country.

      The one in the homeland, is different to say the least. Simple youtube search or djpunjab will show that. Think most people would like it.

      Lol these nri fags play 10yr old jazzy bains songs while eating beef! xD

      • EPGAH

        I was thinking it was to see how much they can piss off their hosts without suffering a physical backlash…Basically, trolling the Civilized World?

        • Jason Y

          In some cases, but in other cases, like with Latin America, the US has made a determined and successful effort at pushing free trade on Latin America, hence destoying the lower classes there, that is, the people most likely to immigrate to the US.

        • EPGAH

          And of course, the enemy country does NOTHING to stop them, right? In some cases, they even ENCOURAGE it because that way they don’t have to setup an expensive healthcare or prison system, they can just “outsource” the cost of the parasites onto America.

          And as a bonus, the parasites siphon money out of America into whatever Third World Hell they still consider “home”. Impoverishing us, enriching them.

          Again, we didn’t FORCE Free Trade on them. They WANT what we got, and they WANT to sell us what they have!

        • Jason Y

          And of course, the enemy country does NOTHING to stop them, right? In some cases, they even ENCOURAGE it because that way they don’t have to setup an expensive healthcare or prison system, they can just “outsource” the cost of the parasites onto America.

          And as a bonus, the parasites siphon money out of America into whatever Third World Hell they still consider “home”. Impoverishing us, enriching them.

          Again, we didn’t FORCE Free Trade on them. They WANT what we got, and they WANT to sell us what they have!

          Yeah, we could stop it, lol. By stopping free trade, so why doesn’t anyone?

        • EPGAH

          FREE TRADE IS NOT THE PROBLEM!
          The problem is the enemy country doesn’t control their people and doesn’t let anyone else do it for them.

          HEY! Remember Zetas? We could’ve cleaned up the drug problem, but they DEMANDED we respect their SOVEREIGNTY (As in more than they respect ours) and only train their cops instead. Who would’ve thought that treacherous Third Worlders trained to fight…would fight US instead of the thugs?

          Treacherous thugs are treacherous! Who would’ve predicted that!

  4. EPGAH

    We used to have a group identity. It was Europeans against the savages for centuries. We had skirmishes between Europeans, but nothing like our fight to carve countries out of savage lands. Then it inverted, and we started fighting other whites to protect our genetic rivals, if not literal enemies. What the Hell happened here?

    Take WWII, what was that about again?

    And yes, I mentioned tolerance of treason, or at least heavily implied.

    But a group identity requires us ALL to believe in it. Not all whites believe in white identity. They are white, but they are not part of the group–by THEIR choice, not ours! That’s why we CAN’T view ourselves as a people anymore!

    Take videos like this:

    In fact, SJW movement seems to be GROWING, not shrinking. The guilt is becoming a brain-virus, spreading faster than that old “Red Alert” worm that nearly took down the Internet.

    And of course, what about people who are nonwhite, but act white?
    Valuing:
    Law&Order
    Education
    Property Rights

    Are they part of the white identity, even if they’re not white?
    I would say a genetic nonwhite who values white IDEALS is more white than a white SJW who wants whites and civilization itself to go extinct.

    Phil had written a spiel about that Identity Crisis earlier, if I remember correctly?

    • “Are they part of the white identity, even if they’re not white?
      I would say a genetic nonwhite who values white IDEALS is more white than a white SJW who wants whites and civilization itself to go extinct.”

      I think that’ll appeal to the logic of many.

    • You ever think that maybe White people are just socially retarded? You blame the Jews but the fact that 2 percent of the population manages to ass fuck whites for centuries proves how retarded whites must be.

      Ps that girl in the video seriously looks like a tranny.

      • EPGAH

        Yes, she does.

        As to “retarded”, it’s not about intelligence, it’s about trust and sociopathy of the Other.
        https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/the-black-genius-some-thoughts-and-examples/#comment-28390
        Matt had a great comment here about Nigerian conartists and pimps, I’m sure if you tweak the words just the tiniest bit, it would apply to Jewish Overlords, or whatever you want to call them.

        The fact that 12% of the population can emotionally blackmail us for half a century proves it’s REALLY not about intelligence! We’re too merciful for our own good, and others exploit that–mercilessly!
        If Blacks are smarter than us, why is every area run by Blacks a screaming–often burning–warzone?
        If we’re such retards, why are white countries shining beacons of safety that every Third World savage wants to pour INTO, rather than flee FROM? Especially as horribly “racist” as we’re reputed to be! There should be an Exodus of nonwhites out of the country that makes the Biblical one look pathetic, right?

        One more thing: Whites follow the rules. That is our strength, that is our weakness.
        When the rules say we cannot attack those who attack us…we follow that too, to our own detriment.
        Look at the Hate Crime/Hate Speech laws.

        • LidoDeckLayabout

          I don’t believe the argument that the Jews cajoled us. If the Jews did do something to make us what we are, then it was only because the potential was already there.

          This is not the first time that European people have followed a religion which taught that continuation of their genetic was a sin, and that it was holy to forgo continuation of our line in this world. Why do you think that the anti-sex, anti-reproduction idea of Paul of Tarsus took off in Europe? Why do you think many deep green, ecologically minded types say that the best thing to do is not have children. If you see someone expressing the idea that not having children, and forgoing your own peoples future for another (whether another race, another species) is a virtue, you can bet your ass its a white person.

          Ever wonder why “White Guilt” which is passed on through generations by virtue of race is EXACTLY like “Original Sin”? EXACLTY.

          It’s probably a genetic thing which leads to this culture. Blaming the Jews leads people to think that if we “solved the Jewish problem” then whites can go back to smiling in front of their cornpoke farms with three children each.

          Rubbish.

        • EPGAH

          I would settle for just being able to AFFORD children again!
          Whites have as many children as they can afford.
          Nonwhites ALSO have as many children as whites can afford!
          Old joke, but the “redistribution” makes it true!

          I admit that the eco-nut and White Privilege argument DO sound a lot like Original Sin, INCLUDING the sale of Indulgences.

          But we have Time Wise and his ilk in the forefront of the White Privilege Cult, so you can’t really deny a Jewish influence, can you?

          Or do a quick Google Image search for “white woman”
          Then do Google Image searches for any other group you want.
          Tell me what you notice?

      • As societies increase in altruism they become less perceptive, pretty much resulting in this mess because it becomes too trusting.

        • EPGAH

          Thank you, that’s a much better way of saying it. BUT we could never have had altruism if we weren’t smart enough to be successful!

          We’re too smart and civilized for our own good!

      • EPGAH

        How retarded are Blacks, if they still support the “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” LIE, even AFTER debunked by 2 autopsies?


        Here’s Mike Brown, the “Unarmed Gentle Giant” attacking an unfortunate old man who happened to be neither armed, nor a cop!

        The thug got justice, or Karma or whatever you want to call it, no two ways about it!

        • Tulio

          Is it confirmed that’s him?

        • EPGAH

          Yes it is. This is your “Gentle Giant”, the one worth torching Ferguson over–TWICE!

          To me, animals like that deserve what they get. Darren Wilson should’ve gotten a slow-clap, and told to get back out there, not lost his job and thugs put a bounty on his head!

        • Tulio

          Actually that’s not Michael Brown. Michael brown was 6’4″ and that guy in the video is clearly not that tall when you see him in relation to the other guys and the objects around him.

        • Actually, there is at least one woman online who lives in Ferguson and knew Michael Brown well who is saying, “Oh that’s him all right.” She knew him from when he worked at a gas station.

        • EPGAH

          Thank you, Robert!

          As to “the other guys around him”…That’s a good point: Why does it take a PACK of these thugs to beat down ONE old man?
          Is this Mike’s initiation?

        • Tulio

          People will say a lot of shit on youtube that isn’t true. I think Michael Brown is a piece of shit. I’m just saying that’s probably not him based on the height. He would be a lot bigger.

  5. EPGAH

    Look up Rotherham when you get the chance. 1400 kids, the parents let the terrorists rape them to avoid being called “racists”!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
    The POLICE AND SOCIAL WORKERS covered it up to avoid being called “Islamophobes”. Cowardice is a good word, but not nearly strong enough for that!

    That’s an “offer” I just HAVE to refuse!

    • SHI

      Aren’t they 2nd generation Pakistanis? I could understand fresh-off-the-boat people from the subcontinent and Africa who just got into civilized countries like the UK, acting like total savages.

      But, the 2nd generation people who were educated in England, no matter where they came from, I find it rather depressing that they could not leave behind the barbaric environments they came from. Lack of integration efforts.

      To be fair though, some UK girls are total slappers who will sleep with random strangers after getting drunk or drugged. I had one experience with a British gal, we were together for a while in Copenhagen and after a few rounds of drinking, she offered herself to me. Not verbally though but more as a suggestive gesture. I didn’t seize the opportunity then because I felt like she was feeling incredibly shitty that evening due to cold, depressing weather. I’m a player type but I can’t bring myself to taking advantage of a female when all she needs is some comfort.

    • Jason Y

      It depends on what you mean by black pride. Yes, in some instances, I can’t see the difference. If you look on the Black Muslim offical website it calls for the ban of inter-racial marriage.

      However, sometimes black pride can be like some kind of “non-threatening ethnic heritage pride”. It would be like somebody marching in an Irish parade on St Patrick’s Day.

      Yes, we should address hateful non-white racism, just as we do with the hateful white variety. Honestly, there isn’t much a difference, except that for the last 500 years whites have been stronger than other races. However, that situation doesn’t justify the hate of Malcom X. It might be sort of understandable, but not justified.

      Actually, even white nationalism, as repulsive as it is, might be understandable, considering the elites war on the poor (poor whites as well as non-whites), but it’s not justifiable.

      Anyhow, some of the black power stuff is very understandable, like the wearing of Afros in the past. White culture had told them for so long that thier hair wa stupid and associated with inferority, so basically in the 60s and 70s, they gave the middle finger. How is that any different than Duck Dynasty giving the white middle finger to liberals?

    • Tulio

      Because black pride created “I have a dream”. White pride created the Auschwitz.

      • EPGAH

        Black Pride created riots in the streets and demands that thugs be allowed to attack cops with impunity.
        “I Have A Dream” is completely ignored. We’re supposed to judge on their character, but if they’re Black, they DEMAND a pass, no matter how bad their character.

        White pride got us thriving countries where even the “poor” are fat instead of starving, and bitching when they don’t have MORE, rather than dying off.
        White pride got us safe neighborhoods. Blacks can go through pretty much any white neighborhood completely unharmed. Can you say the same for whites in nonwhite neighborhoods? Do a quick Web-search for “No Go Zones”!

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          “I Have A Dream” is completely ignored. We’re supposed to judge on their character, but if they’re Black, they DEMAND a pass, no matter how bad their character.

          OK, ep-gah has a point here. However, we must note that all blacks are not ghetto blacks, something Tulio has mentioned before. White nationalists generally want racist laws instituted against ALL blacks (and other non-whites etc..).

        • EPGAH

          Well, as Robert said, we’re playing the Odds Game.
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/why-race-is-important/
          Are the laws “racist” or “race REALIST” if they respond to the bulk of the behavior?

          And you and I argued before on whether other nonwhites acted better or worse than the ghetto Blacks.
          Since Black tantrum-throwers in college DEMAND white-free Safe Spaces, let’s grant their Wish: Wall off the ghettos and throw them in, see what happens! (I’ve always been a fan of Ironic Punishment)

        • Tulio

          Black riots pale in comparison to the tens of millions killed by white pride in WWII.

        • EPGAH

          If Black Pride is so wonderful, why is every area run by Blacks a screaming–often burning–warzone? From South Africa to Haiti to Ferguson, Detroit, Chicago, Los Angeles, Baltimore…

          Did it ever occur to you that Colonial “oppression” was the only way to keep the savages under control?
          To the giver, it’s PUNISHMENT.
          To the recipient, it’s OPPRESSION.
          PLEASE tell me you don’t have kids! All they have to do is call any punishment you give them “Oppression”, and you’ll back off, right?

        • EPGAH

          You are right, Tulio, we kill people in war, BUT we don’t kill the misbehaving Blacks in riots.

          Why is that? If they want to be our enemy–as proven by their actions — shouldn’t they take casualties? We’re supposed to judge by actions, right?

        • Jason Y

          quote by Tulio

          Black riots pale in comparison to the tens of millions killed by white pride in WWII.

          Another good point. Well, for one thing, the WNs deny the holocaust, and they don’t believe death and destruction in war should be counted. Of course, they would have some explanation for World War II, as though it wasn’t thier fault. It would be the classic, “They started it. We were defending ourselves.” accuse.

      • Jason Y

        quote by tulio

        Because black pride created “I have a dream”. White pride created the Auschwitz.

        Yeah, good point. Has white pride ever created anything positive or useful, other than folk or country music? White pride has always lead to xenophobic hate or colonial oppression.

        However, I’m not opposed to white culture. I used to even play bluegrass guitar quite well.

        • EPGAH

          It made safe neighborhoods, cities, even COUNTRIES, where nonwhites would WANT to invade, but DON’T want to obey the rules.
          Read the earlier posts about obnoxious foreigners playing their music loud on purpose just to annoy the neighbors.

          White culture is FAR more than bluegrass. Start with the computer you’re typing on. Or the language you’re typing IN!
          Or the electricity you use, or the car you drive…

          Black Culture claims a much-ignored “dream” (And sometimes claims white inventions which makes them look even dumber when they’re debunked), white culture can claim all the things that make First World lifestyle better than the savages!

          Are you being intentionally obtuse?

      • Jason Y

        An argument often brought up ep-gah is that non-whites were enslaving whites for a long period before the European period of expansion. However is that really a justifiable reason for white oppression? It’s kind of like a “two wrongs don’t make a right” thing.

        Yeah, it is true whites did have it rough in the 1300s. They were threatened by Muslims and many were dying like flies to the black plague, a problem later which destroyed the Amerindians.

        • EPGAH

          Whites set the slaves free. Nonwhites still have slavery.
          Brazil, for instance, just made slavery illegal LAST YEAR!
          African countries are fighting AGAINST the Civilized World to KEEP their slave markets!

          I don’t know where you get “two wrongs”. Slavery WAS legal, we did it, we did it better than the savages did (As in keeping our slaves alive longer, rather than “Life Is Cheap, Just Capture More”), then we abolished it!

          Also, you forget the Moslems had us as slaves in our own country for 700 years! So If we’re going by “Two Wrongs” theory, Blacks still owe us a couple of centuries. Instead some are still bitching for “reparations”, despite living in OUR better country, where Mexico’s scum risks dying in the desert to invade!

          And in one of those delicious ironies, the Black Plague was brought to us by Mongol Invaders–who are genetically related to the savages in America! They basically passed it to their other selves!

      • Horatio

        The Nazi’s put the “white race” far down the list of priorities. I wouldn’t call a regime which eagerly went to war against other European nations “pro-white”. I wouldn’t call went to war against America to help Japan one pushing ‘white pride’.

        You would go to prison in Nazi Germany far faster by opposing the regime, than by simply being someone who engaged in interracial relationships.

        Being white didn’t help millions that were killed. They invaded Greece after Italy had their ass handed to them to protect a fellow ideologue, not race.

        Which makes some pro-whites pro Nazi stance baffling and troublesome.

  6. I guess you could say that I’m a “complementary black” if not really “white”.

  7. Kareem

    White pride is considered taboo because it has too many connotations wrapped in Hitler and Nazis.

    • This man has caused a lot of problems in the world.

    • EPGAH

      Yes, the Germans have to bend over for terrorists molesting their women.
      If they resist, they’re “Nazis”.

      • Lmao wtf are you talking about. I just posted a funny picture of Hitler talking a picture of himself. Here’s another one I found funny. Calm ur breasts EPGAH

        • EPGAH

          No, that’s how the SJWs are attacking in Germany.
          Calling someone “Nazi” is their version of “Racist” or “Islamophobe”.
          Their Stop-Thought where you have to bend over to avoid being called it.

          If only they had had some kind of warning sign, ya know, aside from Radical islam raping, pillaging, and killing for the past 1400+ years.
          Or if only they were allowed to LEARN from history, rather than have their past identity used to browbeat them into bending over for their invaders?
          6 of 1.

    • I would be lying if I were to say that I didn’t notice this, however I tend to separate Pro-white and White Nationalist in the sense that they overlap in certain beliefs but differ in extremism and clannishness.

      Really I think we should disambiguate “Pride” versus “being proud”. “being Proud” of your race is typically harmless unless it goes over to “pride” in which it could leap over towards tribal behavior tactics.

      While the effects of the latter are undesirable, many “proud” individuals with both perception AND reason are lumped up with them thus either assimilating due to having no other forum or just being independent.

    • EPGAH


      POLAND has the balls to show the rapefugees as they really act!

      Among the articles featured in that edition included one titled “Does Europe Want to Commit Suicide?” The continent is quickly realizing that they already have.

      In America, I don’t think you could put out a cover that truthful anymore, there would be calls for his head–from the AMERICAN SJWS, not just the terrorists!

      • Jason Y

        Actually, there is no mention of how elite policies might be causing instability in the Muslim world fueling war (and hence immigration). For instance, the elites could be driving up food prices etc.., and of course, they are always backing far right regimes which promote feudalism (as in Latin America or India)

        We know free trade is driving immigration from Latin America, something ignored in the controlled debate going on in the US, so what’s going on with the Muslim world?

      • Jason Y

        Actually, I saw a middle eastern guy last year look lustfully at some blonde college students last year. I thought it was funny, cause I know all guys have perverted thoughts, but Iv’e never seen something like that in action on campus. Believe me our school has got some hot white chicks.

        Maybe the middle eastern guy was from some nation where women couldn’t wear sexy clothes. Some women on our campus, especially the ones with desk jobs, purposely wear clothes where thier bust can be seen. Some are BBWs, (fat girls) but so what? It’s still hot.

        • EPGAH

          Yes, but that’s no reason to RAPE them, if that’s where you’re going?

          As much as feminists say “All Men Are Rapists”, MOST Men in the Civilized World can control ourselves, even if she says “NO” at the last minute!
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/01/26/for-gods-sake-whatever-you-do-dont-rape-her/
          Robert had an article about that. The terrorists do not have this self-control.

        • Tulio

          Indians and Middle Eastern guys are crazed for white women. I know they say that about black men, but it’s 10x more so the case with S. Asian men in my experience.

        • Tulio

          Also many black dudes get laid so they aren’t as pent up. These Middle Eastern and Indian guys come from sexually repressed cultures where may men are virginal until marriage.

        • EPGAH

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/uk-muslim-abducts-rapes-woman-you-white-women-are-good-at-it

          Yes, they are crazed, but that’s not a good thing.
          That is an additional reason to keep the savages under control, since they cannot control themselves!

        • EPGAH

          You’re using the “fact” that they’re VIRGINS as an excuse for RAPE?
          Then why aren’t virginal white men going on a Raping Rampage?

        • Jason Y

          Couldn’t we also say white men are crazed over slant eyed women? Note, Asian nationalists are furious over this subject and really hate white guys, especially the ones teaching ESL in Asia.

        • EPGAH

          Yes, Jason, but that’s CONSENSUAL. Asian women kinda throw themselves at white men to a Level that resembles a cartoon.

          Whites usually AVOID Moslem Men, are kidnapped and FORCED.
          CONSENT IS THE DIFFERENCE!

        • Jason Y

          quote by Tulio

          Also many black dudes get laid so they aren’t as pent up. These Middle Eastern and Indian guys come from sexually repressed cultures where may men are virginal until marriage.

          No kidding. The women are covered from head to toe. Anyhow, many Muslims have this idiotic view that any woman in sexy clothes, especially a bikini, is a whore. So if she’s a whore, it stands to reason by them, then they can be raped.

        • Jason Y

          Yes, Jason, but that’s CONSENSUAL. Asian women kinda throw themselves at white men to a Level that resembles a cartoon.

          Whites usually AVOID Moslem Men, are kidnapped and FORCED.
          CONSENT IS THE DIFFERENCE!

          I don’t know about Muslims, but white girls often throw themselves at black guys.

          The part about Asian women you said was interesting. It seems Asian nationalists think white guys are throwing themselves at Asian women, when the opposite might be the case. Well, I know it would be in the Philippines for sure. But most of your hateful Asian racists are coming out of China, Japan, and Korea.

        • EPGAH

          As to your excuse for the rapists that any woman NOT wrapped in a carpet is a whore, this just proves their Cult is incompatible with the Civilized World. They demand women cover up because they cannot/will not control themselves!

          As to white women throwing themselves at Blacks, they’ve been increasingly socialized to do so, from General Mills commercials on up.

          Do a quick Google Image search for white women.
          Then do Google Image searches for any other group of women you want.
          What is conspicuously in frame with the white women, and not with any of the other groups?

          As to Asian women throwing themselves at white Men, think of it, the white Men symbolize access to money and power.
          Robert believes that whites are hyper-macho Hulks compared to the Asian Men, and paradoxically, we’re more polite because we’re NOT raised in a culture where women are meant to be servants!
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/02/01/white-male-asian-female-couples-in-australia

    • Horatio

      White pride is considered taboo because so many who express “white pride” can’t help but think Hitler and Nazi’s are cool and push this line.

      The argument that it is just slander rings hollow when on a daily basis “pro-whites” on places like Stormfront post with Hitler avatars, arguing that the Nazis were the ones trying to save the white race and so forth. Then you’ve got frequent use of racial epithets, talk of extermination and violence.

      They essentially exist to ensure that the stereotype rings true. They would be like Italians who grease their hair, wear gold chains and act and speak like Mafiosa, complaining about stereotypes, and NOT SEEING THE IRONY.

      I don’t believe there is any issue, nor should there be any issue, with white people discussing whether their nations should be subject to multiracial immigration or not. I even support the right of white people to state that it is desirable to reject mass immigration into all and only white nations. That doesn’t make one a Nazi.

      But there are whole bunch of Nazis who will latch on, and claim you can’t “save the race” unless you become one of them.

      • EPGAH

        If you push to close the borders, you get CALLED a Nazi, whether you are one or not. This makes MOST people back off the idea–espeically in Germany, where they used to BE Nazis–and THAT is the purpose of using it as an epithet!
        ·Shutting down discussion
        ·Making the one who gets called That back off.
        ·Keeping the borders open to our enemies by forfeit of those trying to shut the borders!

        Trump is one of the few who was called a “Nazi” and it DIDN’T shut him up!

        As to violence, sadly, we must meet violence with violence. For instance, the reason we keep having riots is because none of these rioting savages gets hurt or killed. So it’s a quick way for wealth for these scum. If it was a quick way to death, it would stop almost immediately, right?

  8. Jason Y

    Are we not forgetting white pride is associated with white trash? I mean really, where are the intelligent whites in the white idenity movement? There are some. It seems though the foot soldiers are incredibly repulsive hateful people. I met some in a town near mine. Unfortunately, the stereotype given in the movie “Falling Down” is true.

    So you got creepy intellectual psychos like santo-culto running the movement, and macho meat-head bigots doing the groundwork. What’s there not to love😆 ?

    • EPGAH

      Phil already talked about that, the “intellectuals” are the ones too altruistic for their own good, and they force policies on the Civilized World that are too altruistic for EVERYONE’S own good.

      Really, what’s so “intelligent” about letting in scum that rape and murder the Useful Idiots who allowed them to STEAL a Better Life?

      If you consider that “intelligent”, then please prove your “intelligence” by downing a bottle of immunosuppressants and allow parasites to steal a Better Life from you!

      • Jason Y

        Not all intellectuals are politically correct. Plenty of creepy Dr. Mengele ones abound. For instance, “The Bell Curve” was written by some accomplished intellectuals. I wouldn’t say necessarily they are psychos like off some comic book, but I’d say thier stuff appeals to those sort of scientists.

        • EPGAH

          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/the-bell-curve-thirty-years-on/
          Well, for better or worse, the Bell Curve turned out to be correct, and is no longer even argued against…BUT America has evolved to be more anti-intelligence, so the stupid and violent are “heroes”.

          From Tulio defending rioters and Mike Brown, to these animals:

          Tell me, how bad will nonwhites have to get before it’s “intelligent” to keep them OUT or at least UNDER HEAVY CONTROL, rather than give them “Space To Destroy”?

        • Jason Y

          In reference to the Bell Curve thing, as I said in other comments, it’s not really the bad genes, but the fact bad genes are turned on by a bad environment. However, anyone veering to the right is opposed to improving the environment.

        • “In reference to the Bell Curve thing, as I said in other comments, it’s not really the bad genes, but the fact bad genes are turned on by a bad environment. However, anyone veering to the right is opposed to improving the environment.”

          Again, this is not true because Robert has mentioned how controlled for SES Blacks are still more crime ridden in comaprison to whites on average.

        • EPGAH

          The thugs MADE the environment bad! From Detroit up (or down, depending your perspective), those thug-infested Hells, USED to be good places to live!

          So tell me, what turned on their bad genes in the first place to MAKE them transform peaceful neighborhoods into Ghetto Hells? Or are you finally going to admit there was something wrong all along?
          (Genetically or otherwise)

      • Jason Y

        I’m not really sure if “alturism” is the true motivation. Most of this stuff is economic. The elites are pushing free trade on Latin America, as well as destabalizing the middle east, hence causing a huge flow of immigrants. of course, the immigrant situation also benefits the elites as they have a cheap supply of labor.

        Anyhow, we can see that his whole thing is not about “political correctness” or being “nice”. Possibly the elites push political correctness for selfish reasons, not because they are Martin Luther King followers or something.

        • All that explains is why they are here, NOT why that population lacks perception towards pathology and does little. and how this only seems to be the case in white countries in terms of how they react to it..

        • By “population”, I mean the native/majority one.

        • Also, I didn’t say “elites”, I meant the local population.

        • EPGAH

          Altruism is the whites’ motivation for letting the scum IN.
          Otherwise, we’d tell the rapefugees to stay in their own countries and take their chances with their fellow savages.

          As to Political Correctness, it plays on whites’ natural desire to be polite, it just takes it to a cartoon Level!

          If whites didn’t have this altruism glitch, we’d tell the PC Police to shut the expletive of your choice up, and we might keep the savages out, OR we might let them in–BUT they would behave or die!

        • EPGAH

          PS: The rapefugees aren’t working. Working the system doesn’t count.
          Destabilizing the Middle East doesn’t make any damn sense.

          Exterminating the terrorists would, but again, altruism prevents that, even BEFORE we had a terrorist sympathizer as President!

          Especially the more recent idea that we need to SET examples instead of MAKE examples! Which has been more effective, historically speaking?

        • Jason Y

          Well, here’s another thought. In additon to the profit motive, perhaps the white’s kindness is motivated by fear of something worse. Perhaps the elites are scared of further problems in the middle east if they don’t care for the refugees. Of course, even that could be motivated by profit somehow.

          We know the elites don’t want revolution in Latin America threatening their interests there, and they probably like immigration cause it gets rid of troublemakers who might start a revolution.

          The elites don’t like black power movements (socialist movements) like we saw in the 60s. Perhaps, and this might not be far fetched, they promote the “War on Drugs” to destabalize ghetto areas, and then promote the prison industry to profit off of it.

        • Jason Y

          Perhaps the elites have just abandoned Detroit and other places. However, they left a huge mess of angry blacks. So to deal with them, they introduce dope and then imprison people for using it. The whole goal being to destabalize and profit from the misery of African Americans, and especially to preserve captialism for all time.

        • EPGAH

          If your idea of destabilization for profit is true, leaving the rapefugees THERE would be destabilizing. Or did you mean destabilizing OUR countries?
          What profit is there in destroying the GOOD parts of your own country?
          http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/28/key-merkel-ally-ungrateful-migrants-demanding-live-nice-areas

          It’s not like the Middle East can get much worse. In the 1800s, we had a handle on the terrorists. Beat them down, made them sign treaties, and made them OBEY them!
          What happened that now we can’t or won’t just beat them back down?
          Why didn’t we fight to keep our countries in China and Africa?

          When did whites turn from “Striding the Earth” to “Giving Away The Store”? AND WHY?!

      • Horatio

        That’s the argument I’m making.

        When Westerners go intellectual, they tend to move towards the abstract. The view of a human moves away from an animalistic view, where we belong to a tribe and have a duty to our genes, which although not expressed directly in other cultures, is somewhat implied. Take Asian ancestor worship for example. Western intellectuals see man as a more abstract intellectual entity, working with ideas, reason and rationality, where our intellectual frame of reference is based on the ideas we hold and the reason we have, than the situation we are born into.

        In other words, I think we have a yearning to “break free” from the natural conditions of life, from the expectations of others. If you think about it, a lot of aspect of Liberalism are exactly that.

        Womens rights liberates the womans mind from her biological duties to bear children.

        Gay rights and sexual liberation liberates the sex acts from the biological function of procreation.

        State welfare liberates us, somewhat, from the necessity to compete for food to live.

        Individualism and anti-nationalism liberates us from our genetic duties to continue our race and duties to our tribe.

        Liberal attitudes towards family again move us away from being bound by the biological realities of bearing and raising children.

        Moving away from old traditions which impose restrictions on behaviour.

        This isn’t a complete explanation of Liberalism or Leftism, but its a trend.

        So the fact that intellectuals tend to be “anti-racist” doesn’t tell me that the anti-racist position is smarter (I don’t believe it is), but that it suits intellectuals more because intellectuals, especially in the west, are far more likely to take this view of moving away from living to genetic dictates. They want people to be free, because they are free thinkers (or so they think). They consider individuality as being intelligent, and in a sense, they are right.

        But it’s not practical. There is the problem.

        You can argue that a truly intelligent person would think freely, without being constrained by race, gender, ethnicity, religion, social upbringing, but just analyse ideas and work towards reason. We like to be individuals. We like to be our own people and like to find reasons not to be bound by conformist, biological ideas like duty to race and family, gender, etc. We think it progressive when a society allows this.

        That’s great, but there is one BIG problem in all of this. You still ARE are biological machine. Society is still bound by biology. You still are of a particular gender and race, and although you wish it didn’t matter and didn’t have to limit or constrain your ideas, you have no choice.

        We love to think we work on free will, on reason and logic, but this isn’t entirely true. It may not even be largely true. It may not even be true at all.

        Like it or not, how society behaves, how individuals behave is still based somewhat on biology. The argument that it is all nurture no longer has any merit. It’s debunked by observation and work in genetics.

        A lot of intellectuals and free thinkers would hate, hate to think that things like ethnicity, genetics, race and gender play a role in how we think and what ideas we create, because that would deny a human being of free agency in the marketplace of ideals. But I think it is beyond any doubt that this is the case.

        Therefore, if Liberals or the Left want to preserve the kind of individual and rational thinking and the culture and mindset and behavioural proclivity which led to things like the reformation, the renaissance, the enlightenment, individual liberty, the sexual revolution, democracy, the idea of man as a sovereign being, technological innovation and artistic creativity, then they may have little choice but to also preserve the human substrate which creates that culture in the first place.

    • EPGAH

      https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/02/18/why-most-whites-oppose-white-priders/#comment-252568
      Is the girl in this vid one of your “Intelligent Ones”? And as another poster asked, is it even a girl?

    • Jason Y

      So they’re hateful cause thier free speech is controlled? That’s an argument brought up. Yeah, that was true before the internet, but now anyone can access thier far right material. So let’s just say they are rude, vulgar, hateful people and call it that.

  9. Bay Area Guy

    The problem here is that almost all White priders continue to promote laissez-faire radical individualism.

    Well said, Robert.

    One thing that has disillusioned me about much of the alt right – alt right manosphere types in particular – is its penchant for libertarian nonsense. I just find it maddeningly ironic that the same people who denounce “degeneracy” are disproportionately Randroids; you’d be hard-pressed to find many people more degenerate than Ayn Rand. IIRC, even Jared Taylor leans somewhat libertarian on economic issues.

    Before I was afflicted with writer’s block, I wrote an article for Alternative Right where I basically argued that the time has come to jettison individualism. Individualism is fine and good when you live in a mostly homogenous society; but when you’re living in a diverse country where other groups practice collectivism, you have to get with the times.

    • Tulio

      Good luck getting those types to believe in any type of economic collectivism.

      • Battleship Negro

        So true.

      • Bay Area Guy

        Good luck getting those types to believe in any type of economic collectivism.

        Yeah, I know.

        What amazes me though is that despite lamenting the fact that more whites aren’t on board with the alt right, alt righters too often ignore economic issues. There’s a reason why Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump – who along with his inflammatory rhetoric also denounces free trade deals – have galvanized so many white Americans, albeit in their own radically different ways.

        As I told Robert Stark during my first appearance on his radio program over two years ago, the average young white person doesn’t give two flying fucks about the Frankfurt School or subtle Jewish themes in Hollywood films; they’re interested in economic survival.

        Alt righters should take a page from Bernie Sanders’s book, as he’s earned the loyal and passionate following of far more young whites than they have – even young white women support Sanders far more than they do fellow female Hillary Clinton.

        This election just goes to show that while identity is indeed important, identity politics alone is not enough to build a movement around.

    • Jason Y

      Whites stick together more than you think. My facebook feed is filled with redneck posts, one after another. Also, in this area, anyone coming against the culture is crucified, and often kids who are gay or of a different race are bullied.

      Anyhow, is this group identity a good thing or is it abuse?

    • EPGAH

      Well, the problem with that is that collectivism so far has always transferred wealth from whites to nonwhites. So there’s a “Won’t Be Fooled Again” aspect.

      BUT here’s the kicker: These collectivism laws were passed at the times when our countries were the MOST HOMOGENOUS!
      Nobody minds helping others like us, but our Welfare State is left open, so it becomes a “Family Picnic” with a bunch of gatecrashers–and no bouncer!

      Horatio pointed out that Liberals want to be free of biological diktat and this suicidal openness to our enemies is how they “prove” it!

      • Jason Y

        The collectivism laws were passed before all the complexes involving war, prisons, free trade, and whatnot went into full bloom. Of course, such laws worked better before such things existed, not because the nation was more white.

        Think about it. If it wasn’t profitable to put black thugs in prison, then would the USA be wasting our time doing it? Probably they’d just shoot them like in China or try to deport them

  10. Jason Y

    People should be proud of what they are, whether it’s white, non-white, Jewish, or mixed. Nonetheless, it almost is never a “live and let live” situation. It’s always the product of hate, and it’s taken too far. For instance, the Nazis banned Jazz music because it wasn’t white and supposedly it was associated with degeneracy, as though the Germans don’t gobble down beer 24/7 even under the Nazis, lol

    I think the problem is that white liberals have made being white as something evil, as though being white was morally and physically ugly.

    • Jason Y

      Generally, white pride sucks cause it’s against freedom. Freedom to do what you want. For instance, if I’m white and I wanted to listen to soul music, well, that would be a problem under a white nationalist government etc.. White pride, as well as the other forms of racial pride are not very open minded.

      • Chameleon

        20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

        21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

        22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

        I am bigger than any doctrine. Why would I want to limit my associations to white people, because I’m white? L-a-m-e

        • EPGAH

          Then what defines your associations? Surely there are some who just behave too badly for you to tolerate, right?

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          Then what defines your associations? Surely there are some who just behave too badly for you to tolerate, right?

          There are plenty of people I can’t tolerate, but I wouldn’t use race as the dividing line.

      • Horatio

        White Nationalism in a nutshell…

        “Preserving the white race by making them act like 16th century Muslims, thereby negating any advantage there would have been in preserving the white race in the first place.”

        • EPGAH

          How else can we preserve it? The openness to show that we’ve moved past our genetic diktat is suicidal. Making our enemies equal to us destroys the “the human substrate which creates that culture in the first place.”…Or has already destroyed, depending your Level of cynicism.

        • EPGAH

          A fairly new counter meme I have come across is;

          “That which is good for White people is good, and that which is bad for White people is bad”

          Or in a more compact form:
          “Good for Whites = Good
          “Bad for Whites = Bad”

          What I like about this particular meme is its profound and unapologetic simplicity. It reduces the issue to its most fundamental and common denominator.

        • EPGAH

          Think of whites as running in Survival Mode, or maybe Safe Mode.

          We can’t have the technological innovation and artistic creativity when our countries are in danger of not being our countries anymore, and our women and even our own LIVES are under threat.
          We need to deal with the threat, THEN return to being innovators of the world…Only this time, keep our innovations to ourselves, instead of trying to improve the savages and get murdered for it!

          Whites are what, 8% of the world’s population? Yet everyone wants to come to white countries and breed–even (Or should I say ESPECIALLY?) the ones whom we tried to civilize in their own lands. Why would that be except that whites make better countries? They want those better countries, but without following our rules. They truly believe the two are somehow separable!

          Otherwise, they would never have overthrown and destroyed what we built in the first place!
          South Africa would still be a place of medical advancement instead of Rape Capital of the World.
          India wouldn’t be shit. They might actually use the toilets, instead of their streets!
          Hong Kong is STILL better than the rest of China, but it was better under Civilized World control than under Chinese control. PLUS, without money sucked from Hong Kong, China wouldn’t be a military threat.
          Indonesia wouldn’t be as bad as it is now. (Although I admit I know less about that country, so I can’t get more detailed.)
          Haiti would be the richest subsidiary of France, a thriving farming country instead of a rape hole for Foreign Aid Workers!
          Nigeria wouldn’t be known for scams.
          Somalia would be a rich port city instead of a poor, violent pirate haven.
          Sudan might still be the poorest country in the world (SOMEONE has to come in last place), but it would be the Civilized World definition of “poor” instead!

          If I missed one, let me know.

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          Hong Kong is STILL better than the rest of China, but it was better under Civilized World control than under Chinese control. PLUS, without money sucked from Hong Kong, China wouldn’t be a military threat.

          Aren’t you stretching it a bit ep-gah? I was in South Korea. I saw on indication these far eastern nations were dirty. Do you mean corrupt?

        • EPGAH

          South Korea wasn’t in my List.
          But South Korea is a lot better than North Korea, isn’t it?

          Corruption is a problem. Hilariously, in China, the ex-whores of Chinese bigwigs are the ones complaining about corruption.

          There’s enough irony there for a Robot Chicken skit!

      • EPGAH

        You mean freedom for savages to do what they want in your otherwise law-abiding country?
        You really don’t see why they should be against that kind of “freedom”?

        And yes, Liberals have made whiteness somehow evil, up to the point of “Treason To Whiteness is Loyalty to Humanity”

        Encouragement by tenured professors for whites to commit suicide “For the Good Of All”.

        http://racetraitor.org/abolishthepoint.html
        Here’s a transcript, if you don’t want to watch the video.

        And don’t forget Tim Wise’s “You Have To Be Trained To See It” White Privilege “Seminars”!
        You have to PAY to be “trained” (Brainwashed) to see it’s unfair to be treated better because you and people who look like you behave better!
        That’s quite a scam!

  11. Just thinking bout it

    Robert, Why would you hang onto anything other than your identity in Christ?

    Doesn’t it limit you and put you in a little box?

    • EPGAH

      Better than having Moslems put your head in a little box!

      But you see, we’re NOT all equal. In Africa or some places in Central and South America, they slap the Christian LABEL on their previous savage behaviors. And the gullible say “Look what CHRISTIANS are doing! EW!” rather than “Look what SAVAGES are doing!” and it gives Christianity an even more bad rap.

      Plus of course, many push the Moslem Cult just because it destroys Christianity!

      • Jason Y

        Do you mean when black Christians murder homosexuals as in Uganada and other places? That whole thing was brought up during the “Chick Fil-a” controversy a few years back, where millions of Christians showed support for the anti-gay restaurant.

  12. Kareem

    This vid has been debunked a long time ago. It’s not Brown.

    The video was shot in Woodland City in Dallas, Texas. Michael Brown, who would have been 16 at the time this video was shot, never stepped foot in Texas.

    Not to mention Mike Brown was between 6-foot-4 and 6-foot-5. The person in the video does not look to be even close to being that tall.

  13. There’s a lot to be said on these issues (and if I ever get my thoughts together maybe I will say more), but for now

    If race is so fundamental to identity, why does there have to be such an effort (on the part of white nationalists) to wean people away from the cultural artifacts and practices of other races? Why is it so difficult to keep whites immersed in white culture more or less alone? If race is so defining and culture is ultimately just a manifestation of race, why does everyone jump around so much, and why do so many of us find it easy to feel connections to other cultures?

    I am hopeful that critique of the assumptions and arguments of the identitarian left can eventually bring things back into balance. I have no desire to become part of a group of embattled white people, although I admit that I find myself imagining scenarious in which that could happen. But again, there first needs to be a lot more push-back against SJWs or whatever terminology one wants to use. (I’m not entirely comfortable with any available labels for this phenomenon.)
    *
    There is also something very problematic about being told that individualism and a relative lack of tribalism is fundamental to being white (whether that is true or not); to be told: “be white!”; and then to be told: “but be tribal!”

    So are we as white people supposed to feel a moral obligation which keeps us from entering interracial marriages and producing interracial children? How many contemporary white people are going to follow white nationalists’ fucking rules?

    I don’t like the way things are going these days with casual anti-white discourse all over the place, and SJW’s inverting some of the facts of current race relations, but it’s going to take a lot more than that before I feel so under attack as a white person that I would start thinking about preserving the race as a first priority.

    I was raised to put my religious identity (as a Christian) first, or perhaps even just my identity as a human being. I’m no longer a Christian (or otherwise religious) but perhaps that Christian emphasis on shared belief and practice, over racial/national identity still structures my attitudes somewhat. I think people tend to forget how much Christianity in its earliest form dismissed racial/ethnic identities. (Can provide New estament quotes if needed, but anyone somehwat familiar with the Bible should know what I’m talking about it.)

    Why should I fight who I am? If being white as determined by white nationalists doesn’t come naturally, why would I want to be bothered with trying? Especially when I have deep ancestral roots in a universalistic Christian approach? And when my parents were liberal cosmopolitans in there own way?

    • EPGAH

      Really? It seems whites and conservatives are the only ones told that identity and pushing for your tribe is bad. Why IS it bad for whites to be tribal but when Hispanics push for illegals to break our law, or Blacks support Black Lies Matter rioters, that is OK?

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/18/leftwing-professor-calls-campus-police-on-fascist-conservative-student-group/

      Look at that, calling the cops because “The best response to microaggression is macroaggression“? Seriously?
      How about this one…
      “Both existing and novel theoretical perspectives are applied, which tie racialized gang conflict in Los Angeles in with larger macro-historical structures.”
      This is loser-academic speak for “I end up blaming White Colonialism for Latino/Black gang problems.”

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/19/new-york-times-uses-papal-visit-as-stick-to-beat-conservatives/

      Or the POPE HIMSELF saying America needs to take in more of the Third World’s illegal scum?

      If you look in the Bible, it says that “He who comes into the fold not by the gate is a thief and a robber”
      OR
      “And he said to Judah, ‘Let us build these cities and surround them with walls and towers, gates and bars. The land is still ours, because we have sought the LORD our God. We have sought him, and he has given us peace on every side.’ So they built and prospered.” 2 Chronicles 14:7.

      This would imply God is also OK with keeping scum out, right?

      I have no desire to live in a Third World country. If I had wanted that, I would’ve retired to one. I give you my Word, whatever that’s worth on the Internet. But it’s been proven, the more of the Third World we let in, the more America BECOMES Third World!
      Even Robert wrote about this before.

      https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/immigration-a-question-of-quality/
      Filtering is important!

      https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/09/02/white-california-rip/
      Or else!

      http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/troosevelt.asp
      For more authoritative source, I recommend Roosevelt–Teddy, not Franklin. Note he didn’t want America to become a polyglot flophouse either!

    • EPGAH

      If you really want to bring things back into balance, help get rid of Affirmative Action. NO OTHER GROUP, tribal or not, has laws to disadvantage themselves to help their rivals.

      Most countries have laws that very much disadvantage outsiders to help their own. Japan has twisted patent laws where if you patent something, you also patent every derivative from that, AND non-Japanese have a 3-year “Waiting Period” for patents. By that time, anyone/anything that wants to, can and HAS copied you!
      Or China, where you can be fined if you don’t let China STEAL your tech!

      Again, why should whites be that “open”, and worry about a “Level Playing Field” (By tilting it against ourselves) but all the other groups get to tilt the field in their favor?

    • St Agnes

      You must eventually come to the realisation that we are all one in Christ Jesus, and that race is second to our identity, and being a Christian is first.

      You can be proud of what you are, it’s good to be proud of what you are. But if it limits your influence/audience because others are feeling ostracised because they aren’t the same as you, you need to change your approach.

    • Jason Y

      quote by ep-gah

      Really? It seems whites and conservatives are the only ones told that identity and pushing for your tribe is bad. Why IS it bad for whites to be tribal but when Hispanics push for illegals to break our law, or Blacks support Black Lies Matter rioters, that is OK?

      Possibly because the profitable situation in the US is the status quo. If people start to question racism against whites, then it upsets it. As I was saying, millions of dollars and law enforcement jobs are on the line, most of them white.

      • EPGAH

        Racism against whites wasn’t part of the Status Quo until what, late 1990s?

        Law Enforcement jobs would be a lot easier if there was a zeitgeist that supported it, rather than supporting the rioters, every thug’s a saint and every cop a Cold Blooded Killa!

  14. Jason Y

    Has it escaped ep-gah’s and others attention that the whole reason our current mess exists is because:

    Free Trade
    Prison/Industrial Complex
    War/Industrial complex
    Bad genes are constantly “turned on” by the bad environment the elites in the USA want. Assuming the environment was better, bad genes would matter less or none at all.
    Massive third world overpopulation encouraged by backward feudal governments the USA supports.

    ??

    Considering these five things, it isn’t a pussy/industrial complex at all, or in other words “whites being to nice” so to speak, lol I haven’t seen how whites are too nice. That’s a load of bull pushed by white nationalists.

    All the crap WNs complain about are generally profitable for elites and for a great deal of the American population. Therefore, there is no real desire to stop immigration, ghetto crime etc.. There is no real desire to improve the environment for non-whites either.

    • Jason Y

      The world only operates on what is profitable. For instance, Phil’s homeland in the West Indies had slavery cause it was profitable. What is done in the this world, not for the sake of profit?

      So where is the charity in all this? Is there really a movement among kindhearted whites to open thier heart, a little too much, to non-whites and let them ravage white majority nations?

      OK, I agree a lot of whites are kind. Nonetheless, it isn’t thier kindness that is responsible for illegal immigration, ghetto crime etc…

      • EPGAH

        It IS their kindness that is responsible for illegal immigration.
        Namely, we are too kind now to have machinegun nests at the border like Wilson.
        We are too kind to keep Black thugs on the Black side of town. Hell they can come to our side and murder someone when they get “bored”!

        I don’t mind idiots being kind with THEIR property and safety, but I draw the line when it endangers me too.

        Please remember, they’re not being charitable with THEIR wealth or health, they’re throwing the rest of us to the savages!

    • “Has it escaped ep-gah’s and others attention that the whole reason our current mess exists is because:

      Free Trade
      Prison/Industrial Complex
      War/Industrial complex
      Bad genes are constantly “turned on” by the bad environment the elites in the USA want. Assuming the environment was better, bad genes would matter less or none at all.
      Massive third world overpopulation encouraged by backward feudal governments the USA supports.”

      Again, that’s NOT how Genes work. I have pointed this out before and even Robert agrees.

      I don’t doubt that some of these other things could count, but you are seriously downing playing racial differences and how they can be impacted by the environment.

      https://jaymans.wordpress.com/jaymans-race-inheritance-and-iq-f-a-q-f-r-b/#notgenes

      • Jason Y

        Actually, the Jamaican guy is sort of right. However, though, it’s again a question of genes AND environment working in conjunction. So perhaps the genes and environment are factors equal in size.

        For instance, if someone has a liver disease and is kept away from alcohol, then he will live longer than a similar person who drinks 24/7.

        • “Actually, the Jamaican guy is sort of right. However, though, it’s again a question of genes AND environment working in conjunction. So perhaps the genes and environment are factors equal in size.”
          If you’re actually serious with that last sentence, then you REALLY didn’t read what he’d written.

          “For instance, if someone has a liver disease and is kept away from alcohol, then he will live longer than a similar person who drinks 24/7.”

          Yeah, but does that same analogy works with the mechanics of intelligence.

          Also Jason, if you’re actually going to debate science I expect that you actually use real concepts of science rather than this shit you’re making up.
          THAT is how you debunk someone on the grounds of science, you’re doing quite the opposite.

        • Jason Y

          Nearly all diseases result from a complex interaction between an individual’s genetic make-up and the environmental agents that he or she is exposed to.

          Read more at: http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/science/gene-env/index.cfm/

          Of course, this is kind of a mickey mouse start, but I hope to post more links soon.

        • That’s for DISEASES, not intelligence.

        • Jason Y

          Why wouldn’t diseases and intellegence disorders be similar? However, I will look for more links.

        • “Why wouldn’t diseases and intellegence disorders be similar? However, I will look for more links.”

          Well for one, even if they similar that doesn’t mean differences aren’t prominent.

        • “Look phil eugenics is never going to happen, ever. Unless there’s some civil war in the future and people who support eugenics have absolute control of the population.

          Out of curiosity though what IQ would you want blacks to be at. The white average right now is 100, do you want blacks to be engineered to have IQ’s of 120, 140? Where would you say “okay this is good enough” and stop.

          Also what would happen to the economy? The reason why an engineer makes a lot of money is because his skills are rare. If any random person in the population had the ability to be a physicist or a doctor what would be the point of paying them more?

          Also if eugenics was popular who would choose the traits? Would it be the parents or the government? What if parents wanted to only have boys or girls? Would they be given the right?

          Why stop at gender and intelligence though? What about ugly and pretty people. Should people who are objectively ugly be encouraged to not have children?

          I’m curios about your views on these subjects”

          Well forst of all you are confused with my idea of Eugenics and I will lay them out.

          In the case of Eugenics in a developed society, I mean just being aware of genetic’s powers. Such mild race realism though respecting the individual. Perhaps intervention with embryos who are at risk of disease and among other things.
          My style of eugenics is actually rather basic for third world countries, when taking consideration of racial differences just mae any type of intervention compatible with their capabilities AND be aware of difference of average functionality. Just don’t be too concerned with pathological individuals who express pathology via provoking and etc.
          Really, my ideas I guess are just going by the logic of eugenics, rather than eugenics themselves. I guess you can say it “HBD social intervention”.

          I don’t have any interest to manipulate people’s liberties.

        • “his is not to say that children are predestined to have an intelligence level similar to that of their biological parents. In fact, most children with high intelligence are conceived by parents of average intelligence rather than by parents with high IQ scores (Plomin & Petrill, 1997). Children’s genetic ancestry, then, is hardly a surefire predictor of what their own potential is likely to be. Environment also makes an appreciable difference, as we shall now see.”

          Nothing knew, just heritability. That meaning, heredity isn’t 100% thus average parent could give birth to above average children. As well, outliers can give birth to relatively less intelligent children compared to them. Finally, low average IQ children can give birth to average IQ children.

          However, this is regression towards the mean rather than to the mean.

        • “Robert spoke of ghetto areas being the worst to teach. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the whole “ghetto situation” is a terrible environmental factor.”

          R”obert spoke of ghetto areas being the worst to teach. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the whole “ghetto situation” is a terrible environmental factor.”

          Except
          A. the same happens to whites as they get older as well but not as low.
          B. The WAS a closing of the Gap in environment (you Flynn Effect) but it only happened with children and not adults due to Plasticity of children.

    • P.S, This guy is not only a Jamaican but a Librel as well, so I would LOVE to see you make the “Nazi Bias” BS again.

    • “The world only operates on what is profitable. For instance, Phil’s homeland in the West Indies had slavery cause it was profitable. What is done in the this world, not for the sake of profit?”

      I’m a U.S Black born in S.C and raised in FL, currently residing in TX thank you very much.

      PS, considering how you claim not to believe in the effects genes have on people AND you often associate the beliefs ONLY towards WN’s, wouldn’t that make YOU Politically biased?

      • Jason Y

        Generally many blacks and browns don’t get into HBD cause they have nothing to gain from it, and it tends to be insulting to them obviously. However, some might be interested.

        • Some being me and Jayman, and Huey Newton quite ironically.

        • Jason Y

          Nobody wants to hear uncomfortable truth. For instance, there may have been a lot of inbreeding in these East TN mountains, and my family have been a part of it. For instance, why was there so much deafness in my family? You also see a lot of mentally retarded people pop up in the past. Nonetheless, thank goodness, incest is generally a thing of the past here.

        • “Nobody wants to hear uncomfortable truth. For instance, there may have been a lot of inbreeding in these East TN mountains, and my family have been a part of it. For instance, why was there so much deafness in my family? You also see a lot of mentally retarded people pop up in the past. Nonetheless, thank goodness, incest is generally a thing of the past here.”

          Jason, but why don’t you open up to unfortunate truth? Horatio, Robert, and etc. believe in Biology having at least a part in your being with nuture having limits but you don’t see them going all Hitler and shit.

          Eugenics doesn’t need to equal Auschwitz, it could be as simple as fixing a embryo with a gene putting him at simple risk or being selective with people for certain facilities or just not associating with INDIVIDUALS who are clearly a bad influence.

          I sympathize with you and the inhumane acts that can be associated with stuff like WN beliefs and etc, but I have SEEN it before I even knew what it was and guess what, it doesn’t even have to be interpreted as you are told by WN’s it should, hell not all people in the past who believed in racial differences in the past were conformed like WN’s and I would because I read of them.

        • Jason Y

          Eugenics doesn’t need to equal Auschwitz, it could be as simple as fixing a embryo with a gene putting him at simple risk or being selective with people for certain facilities or just not associating with INDIVIDUALS who are clearly a bad influence.

          Actually, your running into a lot of ethical questions here. In my opinion, I think it’s better if genetics is random (nature run), because allowing humans to modify genetics can lead to massive tyranny.

          Have you seen the movie Gattica? We saw that at university. Basically, people were screened by employers before birth, and, well obviously you would see where that would lead you.

          Even now, stupid people could do things like demand boy babies not girl ones and upset the sex ratio etc.. and they would probably do that in China.

        • Jason Y

          Rnadomness is an important aspect of internet security, so why wouldn’t the same logic also work with genetics? In other words, humans shouldn’t know the genetic code. We should simply use nature as our random math formula generator.

        • “Rnadomness is an important aspect of internet security, so why wouldn’t the same logic also work with genetics? In other words, humans shouldn’t know the genetic code. We should simply use nature as our random math formula generator.”

          Well that’s sort of easy to say when we live in a product of eugenics.
          I’m not saying the power can’t be abused either, that’s why I feel there should be REGULATIONS. Also, genetics can effect the shape of society whether you like it or not and while I’m not trying to advocate we should hurt people, we CAN’T pretend it has no meaning.

          BTW Yes, I did see Gattica…and that was a story manipulated with a theme rather than real life.

        • Also, exactly how am I unethical? If an embryo was at risk of cancer and we have the technology to fix it, shouldn’t we? How is that different from altering the fate of people with medicine?

          By not associating with people, I don’t mean a subjective type, I mean with those who are ANTISOCIAL with essentially little compensation. I’m didn’t even advocate something like “based of their DNA sequence”, just something people do generally.

          By selective with people for certain facilities, similar to the point above, I’m talking about actually merit by performance. That problem here is that in many institutions, that type of quality isn’t applied.

          Aside from that, I feel should do whatever they want and the first and second are just options.

          Technically, I wouldn’t even call this fully committed eugenics but more like social awareness.

        • However, I feel if we are to do anything for third world countries it would be to actually help people who can cooperate in general rather than just simply wasting resources with little progress on the other end.

        • Actually, what I proposing as far as with active citizens is similar to what Robert suggest, by merit.

          In the case of a place being unstable, then Eugenic-like ideas by helping those who can cooperate (via an actual expression and not a just a trait)
          and assisting in disposing disruptive intuitions like coups and what not would be more ideal.

        • Look phil eugenics is never going to happen, ever. Unless there’s some civil war in the future and people who support eugenics have absolute control of the population.

          Out of curiosity though what IQ would you want blacks to be at. The white average right now is 100, do you want blacks to be engineered to have IQ’s of 120, 140? Where would you say “okay this is good enough” and stop.

          Also what would happen to the economy? The reason why an engineer makes a lot of money is because his skills are rare. If any random person in the population had the ability to be a physicist or a doctor what would be the point of paying them more?

          Also if eugenics was popular who would choose the traits? Would it be the parents or the government? What if parents wanted to only have boys or girls? Would they be given the right?

          Why stop at gender and intelligence though? What about ugly and pretty people. Should people who are objectively ugly be encouraged to not have children?

          I’m curios about your views on these subjects.

        • Jason Y

          http://www.education.com/reference/article/effects-heredity-environment-intelligence/

          Numerous sources of evidence converge to indicate that environment has a significant impact on IQ scores. We find some of this evidence in twin studies and adoption studies. Studies of the effects of nutrition, toxic substances, home environment, early intervention, and formal schooling provide additional support for the influence of environment. Also, a steady increase in performance on intelligence tests over the past several decades—known as the Flynn effect—is almost certainly attributable to environmental factors.

          Seems to just be repeating about what I was saying about intelligence genes being turned on or off by the environment, much as what goes with genes which deal with disease.

        • Jason Y

          quote by tangybutthole

          Look phil eugenics is never going to happen, ever. Unless there’s some civil war in the future and people who support eugenics have absolute control of the population.

          Out of curiosity though what IQ would you want blacks to be at. The white average right now is 100, do you want blacks to be engineered to have IQ’s of 120, 140? Where would you say “okay this is good enough” and stop.

          Also what would happen to the economy? The reason why an engineer makes a lot of money is because his skills are rare. If any random person in the population had the ability to be a physicist or a doctor what would be the point of paying them more?

          Also if eugenics was popular who would choose the traits? Would it be the parents or the government? What if parents wanted to only have boys or girls? Would they be given the right?

          Why stop at gender and intelligence though? What about ugly and pretty people. Should people who are objectively ugly be encouraged to not have children?

          I’m curios about your views on these subjects.

          Right, tons of massive ethical questions brought on by this stuff, the least of which is eugenics based on shallow ideas of beauty. Funny how white nationalists are big “anti-government people”, yet, eugenics is sure ticket into massive government control.

        • Jason Y

          http://www.education.com/reference/article/effects-heredity-environment-intelligence/

          Oh this other quote is quite interesting

          his is not to say that children are predestined to have an intelligence level similar to that of their biological parents. In fact, most children with high intelligence are conceived by parents of average intelligence rather than by parents with high IQ scores (Plomin & Petrill, 1997). Children’s genetic ancestry, then, is hardly a surefire predictor of what their own potential is likely to be. Environment also makes an appreciable difference, as we shall now see.

        • The problem with that info is that
          A. the Flynn Effect was only an improvement in environment that only eliminated known restrictors of IQ.
          B. Of course in early intervention IQ can increase, however as they grow older gene expression dominates, hence that Black child IQ score
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/stupid-white-nationalist-tricks/
          c. You didn’t take account in political bias as it is known Librel ideology dominates in social sciences.
          http://pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/01/are-university-professors-jealous-of-the-super-rich/

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          The problem with that info is that
          A. the Flynn Effect was only an improvement in environment that only eliminated known restrictors of IQ.
          B. Of course in early intervention IQ can increase, however as they grow older gene expression dominates, hence that Black child IQ score
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/stupid-white-nationalist-tricks/
          c. You didn’t take account in political bias as it is known Librel ideology dominates in social sciences.
          http://pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/01/are-university-professors-jealous-of-the-super-rich/

          Robert spoke of ghetto areas being the worst to teach. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the whole “ghetto situation” is a terrible environmental factor.

        • Jason Y

          http://pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/01/are-university-professors-jealous-of-the-super-rich/

          Phil’s link brought out some good points, and no doubt academics are jealous of the super-rich or perhaps businessmen and marketers who simply make more money than they do (as well as perhaps auto mechanics and plumbers who can take vacations to Europe etc..)

          Nonetheless, that doesn’t mean that articles written by academics in the field of IQ are necessarily biased. Well, for one thing, they did admit that genes played a role. If they were truly “bleeding heart liberals” then why not spin everything to say environment was totally to blame for IQ?

        • Except that link of Jayman points out how people misinterprets eve the “Gene-environment” relation. I suggest you look it up.

        • Jason Y

          http://pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/01/are-university-professors-jealous-of-the-super-rich/

          I’m no fan of academia though. A lot of them are some of the most pompous arrogant people imaginable. Colleges and universities are heavily rank oriented like the military Of course, it would massively humilate them to have to bow down to some plumber who makes more money than they do. However, isn’t kind of childish and immature to have that attitude? So Bill Gates or Donald Trump makes more money than I do. OK, so what ??

        • EPGAH

          Yes, ghettos are a bad environment, but Bad Blacks MAKE the ghettos a bad environment.

          There’s no Cursed Earth.

          Noone sets out to say, “I’m gonna make this area into a slum!”

      • Jason Y

        Sorry it seemed like in one of your posts you said you were from Barbados.

        • Jason, lets conclude todays session.

          Honestly we both have better things to do and I’m glad you finally actually used sources. Nonetheless, I have a lot of errands to do tomorrow that I want to catch up on in terms of research and general R&R.

          In short, we’ve been doing this all day and quite frankly I’m tired.

          So I propose we continue whenever there is another article pertaining to this topic.

        • Jason Y

          OK, sounds great. I hope to continue another time. At least now there is at least a little mutual respect.

  15. Jason Y

    Ep-gah goes on about “things being bad for whites”. Well, it is bad for poor whites who might have to deal with black crime etc.. or competition for illegal aliens. It isn’t bad for educated whites who live in gated neighborhoods away from this mess. For instance, i have a liberal math/computer professor, he’s an elitist, and he even like Star Trek lol Do you think he cares about white nationalism?

    Some might be quick to call him a cocksucker. But let’s think about it. Why should he care? He’s worked his whole life to get an education, something a lot of white nationalists have neglected. So now he lives a life he feels he deserves from hard work. It would be logical he would be cyncial about white nationalists who won’t study or work, but rather blame their problems on a scapegoat.

    • Jason Y

      Of course, the professor may also feel the same way about non-whites. He might say “Why didn’t these whiny blacks get an education, then they could be like me?”

      Anyhow, there is some logical whining among poor blacks, poor whites drawn to white nationalism, poor mexcians etc.. However, in a lot of ways it boils down to the fact, they just wouldn’t study when they were in school. Now how much is the environment, and how much was it choice?

      • …….and where did those choices come from? Now, I’ll give you this that conformity pressure could be a valid factor.

        A matter of fact, ALOT of what you had said previously, though not all, has some validity….your problem is down playing genes again and again and again.

        Nobody respectful in the HBD field would say environment means nothing, but improving that alone won’t improve the Gap.

        BTW, why do Mulattoes (specifically of white fathers) often score intermediately between White and black IQs, though the score closer to the white mean with a white mother if it is environment?

        Wouldn’t white males being more traditional money producers create a better environment?

        • Jason Y

          Bad genes only work with a bad environment. Not saying there aren’t bad genes.

          …….and where did those choices come from? Now, I’ll give you this that conformity pressure could be a valid factor.

          Conformity could be one aspect of a postive environment or a negative one, depending on the peers. Again, it’s the environment which would help out or hurt someone with bad genes. Actually, you could even have someone with good genes, raised in a negative situation who comes out bad.

        • “Bad genes only work with a bad environment. Not saying there aren’t bad genes.”

          I think this is about the 4th or 5th time I have to say no to that. Swarm around that Jayman list and he should’ve debunked that.

          “Conformity could be one aspect of a positive environment or a negative one, depending on the peers.”
          Well, I DID mean that in the negative sense in terms of you’re argument.

          “Again, it’s the environment which would help out or hurt someone with bad genes. Actually, you could even have someone with good genes, raised in a negative situation who comes out bad.””

          Lets play it like this, let’s say a group of different boys are confronted by a dog. 2 out of the three run, one stays and fights it off but gets hurt. One tries to call for help, the other says “fuck it” and keeps dashing.

          My point is in moments of adversity, people react differently. And as I said in the past, I do believe in a continuum that DOES includes the possibility you brought up, but that isn’t a representative case on the significance or functioning of genes, that would be a case where this person could be just predominately favorable in innate traits while having some other innate qualities that could work against him.

    • EPGAH

      What about educated whites who can’t get a good STEM job due to H1B Indentured Servants, thus have to live among the scum anyways?

      You keep saying “They Just Wouldn’t Study” as if there’s a magical Guaranteed Job at the end of your college stint. That was true until the mid 1990s, then the bottom dropped out.
      Your “Liberal” professor not only got a job, he got TENURE! He’d have to REALLY fuck up massively to get fired now! The Real World no longer really affects him. He’s literally an “Ivory Tower Intellectual!

      Or is that education excuse just your way of denying that savages are bad for everyone?

      You think it’s a coincidence that Middle-Class residences are between ghettos and rich people’s houses? You think if the savages start rioting, they’ll stop at the Middle-Class houses? Or are we just useful sacrifices so that the Ivory Tower guy with no common sense can get away?

  16. Jason Y

    Hey a lot of white nationalists hate blacks, but some blacks in Africa are despicable as white nationalists:

    https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/?fref=nf

    Check out the story about the 2 year old accused of witchcraft. Honestly, if people think a 2 year old is a witch, then could it be the people have a 2 year old mentality ??

    • Jason Y

      Getting to the punchline of the story, the locals were going to let the poor boy starve to death. So are these people represenative of all Africans? Obviously no, but some really low iQ Africans must exist to tolerate such childish cruel behavior.

      • EPGAH

        This is the savagery whites founded WHOLE NATIONS to stop.
        Now that they massacred whites, stole and destroyed the nations, we kinda shrug and let the savages savage each other. After all, in order to stop it, we’d need military force to reconquer our countries by any other name. That would be “Imperialism”, right?

        And yet when these adult 2-year-olds invade OUR countries…

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