Jeb Bush Loves All Children, Especially Black Children

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Poor guy. He doesn’t look too comfortable here. A good racist Southern White man raised by his Black nannie would feel a lot more comfortable in this dusky milieu. Poor Jeb looks like he’s having a panic attack.

They’re just kids Jeb, relax. I know they seem a little scary, but they aren’t old enough to kill you yet.

I actually like little Black boys around this age. I am friends with a few of them around here, including some grandsons of a friend of mine. They are for the most part harmless, and quite a few of them are actually sweet. I doubt if they will be very sweet when they grow up, but little Black boys are often very nice, kind, friendly and shockingly intelligent. Unfortunately these qualities tend to die down as they grow further, but they’re often pretty cool when they are little boys. I often think little Black kids are smarter than Black adults, and studies prove this correct. At age 5, US Black kids have an IQ that is stunningly high at 95. Unfortunately it crashes down to ~85 by early adulthood for unknown reasons.

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86 responses to “Jeb Bush Loves All Children, Especially Black Children

  1. pepperroncini

    I know a few Black kids too. They are all pretty friendly and quite sweet. Actually all the Black adults I know/knew are the same way. Some go out of their way to help, but then I’ve had the same expereince with Whites too.

    In general Whites and Blacks are not stuck up like a lot of upper class recent old World immigrants and rather open and friendly. Mexicans are kinda shy but I chalk that up to not knowing English fluently ; they are very humble folks.

  2. SeymourTeets

    Black children tend to become less smart as they grow up. Maybe they should be raised and taught by White parents then. Black children should socialize with more White children rather than their own kind.

    • Uuuummmm……you do know that’s heritability that’s at work there and NOT environment. Also, that affects there behavior too so regardless they will grow into a different behavior so putting them into an environment that they will contrast with more and more isn’t a great idea.

      No offense, but I don’t really see you as much as a candidate based of your ignorance of how the trait expression works to recommend what’s best for Black children. I on the otherhand have learned about Native African forms of culture that aren’t implemented but could be adaptable for black children thought of course with some modern takes of it.

    • However, I do agree that in masses alot of black kids together don’t often produce great results, however for those that do behave are given a position in there environment to not conform, say a type of club for reading for example, then I think that would be preferable than being transplanted into a new environment.

      Similar thing were done in time of missionaries and colonialism in Africa, and while you had a FEW who adapted, they were hardly representative of the actual results

      • Hasdrubal

        I’m curious about something.
        Are there any studies about the violent crime rate of middle class and higher blacks vs the crime rate for the population as a whole and the middle class and higher as a whole? What are the numbers for blacks vs the population as for white collar crimes considering blacks lower propensity to be in a position to commit those crimes?
        Those numbers would give some indication of how much is nature vs nurture in black propensity for violent criminality and criminality overall.

        • EPGAH

          That would be great but you would need a control group, say a low-income white area. If only there was a village in the Appalachians who were poor as shit but DIDN’T burn like Baltimore.

          Also, how would you control for the parents? Especially absentee sperm-donors who spend most their time in jail…Is that in the nature or nurture column?

        • Robert already did a bunch of those in the past, the consensus being nature predominately. The factors primarily being the ability to control impulses and aggression the fuels said impulses.

          Plus, even if it is nature, that doesn’t mean that there’s nothing that can be done that wouldn’t be controversial.

        • Like for example, while many do indeed have the will to do it on there own, I have some faith that encouragement from the surrounding environments aids in it to a certain degree, by which I mean limited.

        • EPGAH

          What about DIScouragement from the surrounding environment? Namely, if being smarter than one’s fellows makes one a target, they get real stupid real quick for their own survival?

          Like Kareem’s video about Detroit? (Arguably the worst IN AMERICA, but it USED to be a nice place to live! My parents are from there!)

  3. Huh?

    h?It is well known that the Bushes love Blacks; sincerely. This drives a lot of liberals nuts, who also love Blacks; theoretically, as long as they don’t live nearby. It is true. In many African countries lots of Blacks love the Bushes back; also sincerely. I know this chaps the liberal ass, but it is the way it is.

  4. guy from Montréal

    A caption contest is needed here!

  5. Jason Y

    Black children and some black adults are nice once you get to know them. If your in say in a church with black and white members you’ll find they get a long great, though a new white person might take time getting used to the situation.

    Considering how prejudiiced the people are in my mountain valley, I wonder if they could handle being around any other race. They sure wouldn’t like to be in South Korea, considering all the racist name calling these white racists gave me.

    • Jason Y

      I actually took a mildly racist person a black church once and the guy acted like he was having a panic attack once we left. Give me a break. Now that’s prejudiced for you. I suppose I must have some special gift to be able to be around other races and not go into a panic attack and even be normal.

      Anyways, there are some people that are so racist it seems like they’ve never been around another race at all.

      • EPGAH

        Yes, usually the SJWs who White Knight for the thugs.
        You know, claim that nonwhites are no more violent than whites, or that they’re “oppressed” for no reason. Until they get attacked by those thugs, THEN they get in touch with reality or get killed REAL fast!

        Let’s call that “Susan Dlott Syndrome”

        • Jason Y

          Well, there is a big difference between church and ghetto blacks. Any person getting a heart attack around church blacks is an idiot, plain and simple.

        • Jason Y

          Nobody should white knight for thugs. However, despite our tough attitude with thugs, we should always remember that past policies ruined the environment, hence creating thugs.

        • Jason Y

          Sorry for any comment debris (too many comments), but one last thing. Yes, another case of profit from criminals. That’s why the environment isn’t improved for thugs and things go on. A huge “bed and breakfast” industry, similar to the nursing home industry, employs thousands of people.

          So you have a controlled debate of liberals and conservatives in which neither side can really challenge the industry.

          Think about it. No government is stupid enough allow crime to go on like the USA does unless they’re making a profit. How could that be a wacko conspiracy theory?

  6. Jason Y

    The blacks toward the deep south and maybe in big cities are far more racist than the ones in East Tennessee. They’d be more likely to be racist against whites, then for whites to be racist against them.

    If you go toward middle TN, Alabama, or Mississippi, the blacks have an issue with race. In other words, they’re racist.

    • EPGAH

      You’re actually admitting Blacks are racist?

      • Jason Y

        Well, yeah, have I ever said blacks weren’t racist? All racial groups are racist to some extent, and more so in highly homogeneous environments.

      • Jason Y

        Note it is possible to have sympathy for people even though I know they’re unreasonably racist. For instance, poor whites are often discriminated against, however, it doesn’t change the fact those same poor whites are often unreasonably racist and sometimes mean.

    • Tulio

      I’m intimately familiar with middle Tennessee and I don’t think this is correct.

      • Jason Y

        It depends on what you mean. I’m saying they’re are more blacks in the deep south, hence they’re more tribal and more narrow-minded. That’s true with any ethnic group.

        For instance, in East Tennessee, the blacks are pretty open minded and cool, but the whites can be tribal and narrow-minded, simply cause this is a vastly majority white area.

        • Jason Y

          Sorry about bad grammar, meant to say there are more blacks in the deep south, hence they’re more tribal and narrow-minded. Must have dyslexia or something lol.

  7. Kareem

    So Black child IQ is pretty high.

    Is there an environmental explanation for why Detroit’s test scores are so abysmal?

    • EPGAH

      They have to assimilate to a violent, stupid milieu and being smarter than their peers=a target on their forehead? Except that’s not environment so much as thug peer pressure, is it?

      • Jason Y

        Not arguing with ep-gah here, but then again, how did thugs come to gain a foothold in Detroit to begin with? Could it be cause rich CEOs decided to locate operations elsewhere (aka third world)? Note, at one time Detroit was the center of Motown and the black middle class.

        So was it black violence or the rise of labor unions in the abandonment of Detroit?

    • Tulio

      Lead in the water?

    • Also one has to consider the actual environment these people are in surrounded by in terms of education stimulation. Considering this place is often cited as a example of domestic black depravity, I’m going with the bet that it has the “This shit is white” attitude at a particularly high level

      • Jason Y

        More hypocrisy from Phil. The environment is bad? Isn’t that the liberal explanation?

        • Wow………go fuck yourself. I’m serious, I have no remorse for losing my inhibition because after MONTHS of your persistent, unyielding, intellectual dishonesty you have the nerve to say I’m committing hyprocrisy, even suggesting that this isn’t the first time.

          My comment WASN’T suppose to be a universal causation, but rather a POSSIBLE factor. Despite what you may think, I’m NOT opposed to environmental factors but because you constantly shorthand genetics in the grand scheme of things by only using you anecdotes and baseless assertions you have deluded yourself into believing “environment doesn’t zilch”.

          Also, read one of my earlier comments above in replying to Seymourteets, I make my position with environment AND genetic averages clear. I contradicted nothing.

        • Jason Y

          No, you were giving the liberal explanation. Educational stimulation? How else could that be interpreted?

          Iv’e not been intellectually dishonest. Your just using so called data to deflect away from my argument. I could easily bring up similar data showing a liberal position. You might say, “Well, why don’t you?” OK, I will.

          Look at ep-gah, I don’t see him bringing up a lot of data. Why don’t you get on to him, or do you have a soft spot for him? Just cause you all agree politically shouldn’t be a reason for intellectual nepotism.

        • Jason Y

          Despite what you may think, I’m NOT opposed to environmental factors but because you constantly shorthand genetics in the grand scheme of things by only using you anecdotes and baseless assertions you have deluded yourself into believing “environment doesn’t zilch”.

          Iv’e not seen any indication you think the environment is a major factor, except in these rare random hypocritical statements you make.

          You were making outlandish clams for genetics, even claiming musical talent of Afro-American singers was due to genetics, or that Africans are less prone to crime due to their pure-bred state (which is totally false).

        • Lets count how many times you stumbled to argue with me

          When you took my example of the Bamileke and tried to make that a representative case despite them being only outliers.

          When you tried to use Inbreeding as the sole reason of racial differences rather than climate pressures and etc., with your only reason being because “b-but that what the white racists say, and they CAN’T be right”, in which you thought they WOULDN’T appeal to the idea that non-whites simply fucked their own family and THAT’S why they need whites to be smarter. Even after I shown you the inbreeding levels in Africa being to weak to validate your idea you persisted nonetheless

          There’s that time when you just used that maternal age thing Man of Sin brought up, debunked by Ben Steigmann anyways.

          Other times you just say, “CEOs this and Government that!” while suggesting time and time again culture Is the key but not ONE link o a website, blog, study, book, nothing.

          Considering YOUR inconsistency in the past, you are not only a hypocrite but an ass as well. http://www.fotothing.com/photos/5c6/5c624dbc5bc6cb70e5e3c670862a9e23.jpg

          What have I been saying?

          Genetics, culture of self fit and actually while I abandoned that idea for a while I actually did research and a man of Jerome Dowd actually came to a similar idea that I had, though it would involve using

          Genetics factors include IQ, Hormones, MAOA sequences, Historical evolution, etc.

          I’ve given fleshed out explanations, sources, etc. All you did was take from the ideas of others without showing really understanding what you are saying.

          Fuck, I’m STILL doing work on my ideas, coming out with another article soon while whenever conflict arise concerning an actual issue, others using research and applying thought, you’ll just be saying whatever the fuck makes you feel comfortable.

          What do I do to make myself feel good when confronted with info? I’ll just learn that info doesn’t exist for the sake of someone being right over others it exist for it’s own sake. I’ll just go with the flow.

        • Jason Y

          Fuck, I’m STILL doing work on my ideas, coming out with another article soon while whenever conflict arise concerning an actual issue, others using research and applying thought, you’ll just be saying whatever the fuck makes you feel comfortable.

          Ep-gah does the same, making off the wall comments with no data. For instance, I have data about the “prison/industrial complex” in the USA, but ep-gah still raves on about “black crime” as though no profit is being made. He’s just another pawn in the “controlled limited debate” despite his views being further to the right than most Republicans.

          http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1998/12/the-prison-industrial-complex/304669/

          Oh, I don’t have data sometimes in my debate with you, but sometimes I don’t need it. For instance, it’s very clear African crime (purebred blacks) isn’t less than USA crime (mixed blacks). Even Robert has detailed statistics on African crime.

        • “No, you were giving the liberal explanation. Educational stimulation? How else could that be interpreted?

          Iv’e not been intellectually dishonest. Your just using so called data to deflect away from my argument. I could easily bring up similar data showing a liberal position. You might say, “Well, why don’t you?” OK, I will.

          Look at ep-gah, I don’t see him bringing up a lot of data. Why don’t you get on to him, or do you have a soft spot for him? Just cause you all agree politically shouldn’t be a reason for intellectual nepotism.”

          By “educational stimulation” I meant acknowledgement of education significance, and again my argument isn’t “librel” because I DIDN’T meant that it was the SOLE reason, just a POSSIBLE factor that contributes since Kareem wanted one.

          Bring up “data”, that would actually be a change of pace for you, but it doesn’t matter because what you are saying is DIFFERENT from what I’m saying.

          Also, list a time when I said it was 100% genes rather than SIGNIFICANTLY genes. When in earlier clashes with you, I’ve given non-genetics possibilities it’s due to a degree.

          In regards to epagh he doesn’t make NEARLY as outlandish comments as you, at least not at the same rate or erratic nature.

          Also I have discussions with him OUTSIDE the blog and believe me, not ONLY did we have disagreements, but if I were to correct him he’d LISTENED and vice versa.

          “Iv’e not seen any indication you think the environment is a major factor, except in these rare random hypocritical statements you make.

          You were making outlandish clams for genetics, even claiming musical talent of Afro-American singers was due to genetics, or that Africans are less prone to crime due to their pure-bred state (which is totally false).”

          Define “Major”. When I think of environment, not based purely on my “feelings”, but rather evidence, I at best can only theorize on ways that they could work. If they seem to contribute find, but so far nothing has convinced of them playing anywhere near the level of genes.

          BTW, as for my idea of genes given Blacks musical talent WELL GUESS WHAT, I ALSO said there were genes that whites had too and even said how Blacks on averaged lacked in comparison with non-rhythmic quotients, saying HYBRID of the two probably were the best.

          Also, just to clarify on mixed race POPULATIONS and crime, the sources said ON average were more lenient towards anti-social behavior than either two groups.

          To be honest, I didn’t knew how that worked at first, and I EVEN suggest there could’ve been a environment factor but I also believed in genetics ones as well.

          Want an explanation, Fine. In LARGE samples, mixed race individuals could vary in behavior due to the cycles of race traits mixing coming out in different combinations. In other words, unless the individual who carries “crime genes” in them are deleted from the genepool, those African-tempered thugs won’t be dociled by mixing ad vanish, they’ll just pop back up.

          Thus when you have such various behavior combinations from different populations from different environement of development in them, it would probably be discord.

          Still, let us say that’s not the real case

          https://notpolitcallycorrect.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/dailymail-mixed-race-relationships-are-making-us-taller-and-smarter-children-born-to-genetically-diverse-parents-are-more-intelligent-than-their-ancestors/

          There’s still more to en masse race mixing to be cautious of.

        • Jason Y

          Phil, it’s a good thing your doing research, but how do you know it’s not heavily biased? That was a point the liberal commenter Swank brought up before he was banned.

          In fact, it might be the case liberal and conservative sources are biased sometimes. It’s something that has to be checked.

        • Jason Y

          Still, let us say that’s not the real case

          https://notpolitcallycorrect.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/dailymail-mixed-race-relationships-are-making-us-taller-and-smarter-children-born-to-genetically-diverse-parents-are-more-intelligent-than-their-ancestors/

          There’s still more to en masse race mixing to be cautious of.

          I would suspect Nazi sources would be as biased as Communist ones.

        • Exactly WHAT did I say without data? Also, if you claim you can do it then why can’t I?

          The point of data being used in these discussions isn’t just for them to be used for every altercation, the point is how many times I use data compared to YOU.

          Also, show me the prison data you have and exactly what point were you trying to make with EPAGH

        • Bias indeed WAS something I looked for in my sources, particularly for my recent one which I haven’t revealed yet, however the statements made by the sources have shown precision in their results (replicated) and gave logic explanations.

          And like I said, what if Mixed race children aren’t as antisocial or worse, that still doesn’t promote EN MASSE race mixing e.i Brazil.

          BTW, even Robert admitted it could be a bad thing.

        • Jason Y

          quote by Phil

          Want an explanation, Fine. In LARGE samples, mixed race individuals could vary in behavior due to the cycles of race traits mixing coming out in different combinations. In other words, unless the individual who carries “crime genes” in them are deleted from the genepool, those African-tempered thugs won’t be dociled by mixing ad vanish, they’ll just pop back up.

          Your (probably) biased Nazi source doesn’t take into account is the environment. Possibly bad genes in combo with single parent homes etc.. would produce thugs.

          It’s not scientifically or technologically possible to eliminate bad genes, and ridiculous to deport Afro-Americans back to Africa, so one possible way to improve the situation is to “make them more white”, genetically speaking. Also, “making them white” improves the environment as a partially white household would be better.

        • “I would suspect Nazi sources would be as biased as Communist ones.”

          Funny, he had actually debunked multiple ideas of science held by those of modern Nazi ideology.

        • Jason Y

          And like I said, what if Mixed race children aren’t as antisocial or worse, that still doesn’t promote EN MASSE race mixing e.i Brazil.

          Again, the environment has to be taken into account. I mean really, “Is everyone blind on here? ” BRAZIL? It’s a third world hell like India. How can mixed raced Brazillians truly benefit from their genetic makeup, given the horrible environment?

          I think Tulio was trying to defend Brazil. Perhaps he can back me up on this one.

          Environment makes a massive difference. Even a better genetic makeup won’t mean a hill of beans in a bad area. Iv’e watched the movie “The City of God”, and Iv’e even lived in Filipino slums. I’m well aware of the situation.

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          “I would suspect Nazi sources would be as biased as Communist ones.”

          Funny, he had actually debunked multiple ideas of science held by those of modern Nazi ideology.

          It doesn’t matter, the site still probably has massive Nazi bias, even though at times they go against Nazis.

        • “Your (probably) biased Nazi source doesn’t take into account is the environment. Possibly bad genes in combo with single parent homes etc.. would produce thugs.”

          Yes….an environment already created by said bad genes. He’d written one about that as well but even then he also written an article about how even in a low IQ environment there are adjustments that could make them better but not on par with others on average.

          “It’s not scientifically or technologically possible to eliminate bad genes, and ridiculous to deport Afro-Americans back to Africa, so one possible way to improve the situation is to “make them more white”, genetically speaking. Also, “making them white” improves the environment as a partially white household would be better.”

          It called Eugenics, we’ve been doing it for centuries.
          It doesn’t mean that we need to make them white or deport them, it means that the need to select for better genes WITHIN there own genepool. The point is that they have different ratios of certain gene frequencies, not lacking them all together.
          3.Elaborate on that last sentence.

        • Jason Y

          Making blacks white (genetically speaking) would work better in the USA than Brazil (far more) simply cause the USA is a vastly richer nation.

        • “Again, the environment has to be taken into account. I mean really, “Is everyone blind on here? ” BRAZIL? It’s a third world hell like India. How can mixed raced Brazillians truly benefit from their genetic makeup, given the horrible environment?”

          Alright, you do understand that not every Brazilian is going to benefit from a better environment on the same level? In which you can still end up with some not that great in the end, perhaps even enough to the point that they can alter the environment.

          “I think Tulio was trying to defend Brazil. Perhaps he can back me up on this one.

          Environment makes a massive difference. Even a better genetic makeup won’t mean a hill of beans in a bad area. Iv’e watched the movie “The City of God”, and Iv’e even lived in Filipino slums. I’m well aware of the situation.”

          Environment can make A difference, and also with a bad environment with good genes they will be less depressed than they would with bad ones. This has been shown with comparison of Asian countries with similar conditions but with higher IQs than that of the general African population.

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          It called Eugenics, we’ve been doing it for centuries.
          It doesn’t mean that we need to make them white or deport them, it means that the need to select for better genes WITHIN there own genepool. The point is that they have different ratios of certain gene frequencies, not lacking them all together.
          3.Elaborate on that last sentence.

          The website is still biased by Nazi hate. So what if some genes pop up in mixed raced USA kids? The awesome rich USA environment makes up for it. A black guy married to white woman etc.. has already vastly improved the situation for the possible offspring, genetically and environmentally.

          As for Brazil, mixed raced breeding hasn’t made much progress cause poorer classes, despite whatever race they are, can’t escape the favelas. Also, the same situation exists in India, no social mobility, cause the higher castes are narrow-minded jerks who no heart.

        • “Making blacks white (genetically speaking) would work better in the USA than Brazil (far more) simply cause the USA is a vastly richer nation.”

          Just “mixing” won’t make the aggressive genes disappear. The best way of how to do it is to work with actual members of the group that exhibits less dangerous traits.
          Also, there is “human engineering” that can be done on embryos as well that could give better results as well.

        • Jason Y

          Environment can make A difference, and also with a bad environment with good genes they will be less depressed than they would with bad ones. This has been shown with comparison of Asian countries with similar conditions but with higher IQs than that of the general African population.

          All of your arguments for eugenics within the African and New World African populations won’t work, cause it can’t be implemented. The targeted people won’t do it.

          In that case, it’s a waste of time, so a better idea would be to introduce white genes, as well as a massively improved environment. As for Brazil and places like that, the right wing regimes promote feudalism, and obviously that isn’t helping the situation.

        • “The website is still biased by Nazi hate. So what if some genes pop up in mixed raced USA kids? The awesome rich USA environment makes up for it. A black guy married to white woman etc.. has already vastly improved the situation for the possible offspring, genetically and environmentally.”

          Can that account for diseases that can occur via en masse race mixing?
          Also, these “criminality genes” isn’t simply personality thing that can be adjusted, it’s a Dysfunctional trait.

          “As for Brazil, mixed raced breeding hasn’t made much progress cause poorer classes, despite whatever race they are, can’t escape the favelas. Also, the same situation exists in India, no social mobility, cause the higher castes are narrow-minded jerks who no heart.”

          Okay, I won’t deny possible unfair discrimination but what you are describing on the bulk is Colorism in which they don’t differ in ancestry but rather in ratios of them, the pattern of rank due to traits still persisting roughly.

        • Jason Y

          Bad genes? LOL Iv’e got bad genes. Who doesn’t? It all depends on the environment on whether the bad genes take effect. Also, you can’t just say that removing bad genes will magically improve things. What if it turns out a person with bad genes removed, yet given to abusive parents won’t still come out a monster?

          There is way too much emphasis on genetics, not enough on nutrition (makes IQ points go up) or the environment.

          Also, as Robert pointed out, and this is quite funny: The white IQ of the 1950s matched the present day African American IQ. In fact, for much of history the IQ wasn’t that high. So are we taking IQ too seriously?

        • “All of your arguments for eugenics within the African and New World African populations won’t work, cause it can’t be implemented. The targeted people won’t do it.”

          That assuming that they all think alike and based on how you think eugenics works. It doesn’t have to be inhumane

          “In that case, it’s a waste of time, so a better idea would be to introduce white genes, as well as a massively improved environment. As for Brazil and places like that, the right wing regimes promote feudalism, and obviously that isn’t helping the situation.”

          ……..I’ve repeated MULTIPLE TIMES that just MIXING WON’T make the aggressive genes disappear, neither will environment.

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          Can that account for diseases that can occur via en masse race mixing?
          Also, these “criminality genes” isn’t simply personality thing that can be adjusted, it’s a Dysfunctional trait.

          Those diseases you mention are freak diseases, and even you mentioned that the genes would have to massively apart, say a white guy dating a Kenyan etc..(Obama lol) for that to even be a danger. Such a freak occurance, except maybe in the case of white guys dating Filipinas, would be rare.

          In my family, at some point a Cherokee Amerindian married a white and hence my Dad looked like an Indian. Anyhow, in our family we have had no freak blood diseases. None.

          We have had some deafness and whatnot, but I think the cause could be laid more at incest than race mixing as this is a closed mountain area.

          No, we have had no blood related diseases as your Nazi biased website suggests we would have.

        • “Bad genes? LOL Iv’e got bad genes. Who doesn’t? It all depends on the environment on whether the bad genes take effect.”
          having a genetically crooked nose can’t not be compared to a genes or a combination of them that makes you more prone to crime.

          “Also, you can’t just say that removing bad genes will magically improve things. What if it turns out a person with bad genes removed, yet given to abusive parents won’t still come out a monster?”
          Wow that’s kind of prejudiced, that all abused kids are monsters.

          “There is way too much emphasis on genetics, not enough on nutrition (makes IQ points go up) or the environment.”
          Nutrition makes up the actual bulk of proven environmental factors along with parasite load, still won’t close the gap.

          “Also, as Robert pointed out, and this is quite funny: The white IQ of the 1950s matched the present day African American IQ. In fact, for much of history the IQ wasn’t that high. So are we taking IQ too seriously?”

          That’s funny, he also mentioned how such conundrums caused him to believe in behavior differences……differences that are GENETIC.

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          ……..I’ve repeated MULTIPLE TIMES that just MIXING WON’T make the aggressive genes disappear, neither will environment.

          That’s where I disagree. No, the envionrrment won’t make them “disappear”, but the genes won’t produce bad effect, UNLESS the environment is bad.

          So are we wasting our time on this genetic BS, when we should be improving the environment, which is a laughable concept in third world areas ?

          Look at it this way. When I was growing up, I had genetic academic problems. However, if I would have had a loving nurturing environment, chances are , the effect of my problems wouldn’t be so severe.

        • “Those diseases you mention are freak diseases, and even you mentioned that the genes would have to massively apart, say a white guy dating a Kenyan etc..(Obama lol) for that to even be a danger. Such a freak occurance, except maybe in the case of white guys dating Filipinas, would be rare.”

          No, they were diseases that occurred on a clearly more often rate in mixed race individuals in a large sample RATHER than just “a freak accident”. Also, my point was that EN MASSE race mixing makes the chance more likely, not that EVERY single hybrid case will result in one, they are just at risk.

          “In my family, at some point a Cherokee Amerindian married a white and hence my Dad looked like an Indian. Anyhow, in our family we have had no freak blood diseases. None.”

          Anecdote, not data. That’s is why I always say EN MASSE race mixing, not a single case.

          “We have had some deafness and whatnot, but I think the cause could be laid more at incest than race mixing as this is a closed mountain area.”
          No comment.

          “No, we have had no blood related diseases as your Nazi biased website suggests we would have.”
          See the one two spaces above.

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          That’s funny, he also mentioned how such conundrums caused him to believe in behavior differences……differences that are GENETIC.

          No offense to Robert and others, but I suspect he takes “GENETIC” way too far. He gives it too much emphasis. Yes, I agree there is a genetic component, but the key is “activation”. In other words, unless the environment is bad, the gene isn’t activated. You know, kind of like how your anti-virus only works after you type in the key-code.

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          Anecdote, not data. That’s is why I always say EN MASSE race mixing, not a single case.

          It could be that EN MASSE mixing produces another race, say like how present day Mexicans were created. In that case, blood transfusions would have to come from within the “New race”, so to speak.

          Of course, Iv’e seen no threat of EN MASSE race mixing in the USA. It’s mostly paranoia brought up by white trash KKK bigots. It was a big thing to say back during the 1960s civil rights era etc…

        • “That’s where I disagree. No, the envionrrment won’t make them “disappear”, but the genes won’t produce bad effect, UNLESS the environment is bad.” BS, they may not appear in youth, but they will express themselves later during development.

          For example, the despite the average AA NOT in a deprived environment this pattern with IQ boosted by environment becomes closer to genetic potential

          “So are we wasting our time on this genetic BS, when we should be improving the environment, which is a laughable concept in third world areas ?”
          See my point above. Also, I’m never said it won’t do anything in the third world but rather that it has LIMITS.

          “Look at it this way. When I was growing up, I had genetic academic problems. However, if I would have had a loving nurturing environment, chances are , the effect of my problems wouldn’t be so severe.”

          Again, show me were I said that intervention wouldn’t work to a degree. The point is that environment is limited and unless you can show me a study that confirms what you are saying then I see no point in calling mine Nazi Bias especially when the blogger than there CAN be Smart Blacks without major Eurasian admixture.

          Jason, it’s back to square one, you can tell all the stories you want and say Nazi this a bias that but the point is that you haven’t scientifically appealed using any source to back you up. You say you don’t need it because of your ideas yet I debunk your ideas in the grounds o how sciences works, hell, I made a fucking list showing how much you lack scientific insight.

        • Jason Y

          There is not much to argue with. My argument stands with “activation”. The bad genes have to be activated, which is something which a good envioronment would prevent. Of course, as Swank had done, I will try to get more data.

          Anyhow, yeah, I think race mixing in the USA is a good thing, especially considering the riches of the nation would make it work far better than say in Brazil etc…

          Of course, race mixing was encouraged by the past Brazillian government, but cause the nation is so poor, the effect of it didn’t raise the social status of the Africans. Therefore, we now see vast fevelas of poverty. However, there are some successful black Brazillians, something ignored by racists.

          As far as eugenics within black populations go, I would favor the avoidance of incest, as I have spoken of in the past. However, past that, it might be difficult to implement some program of smart blacks breeding more than more dull ones. The probability is that it will never happen.

      • Jason Y

        In response to phil’s race mixing blood transfusion stuff,

        Where I live the mixing is between black and white, as is the case in much of the USA. In that case, there is a new race to get blood tranfusions from. However, if there was mixing between say Asian, black, and white, then it may pose on some problems if done EN MASSE, but I don’t see that happening.

        • “No offense to Robert and others, but I suspect he takes “GENETIC” way too far. He gives it too much emphasis. Yes, I agree there is a genetic component, but the key is “activation”. In other words, unless the environment is bad, the gene isn’t activated. You know, kind of like how your anti-virus only works after you type in the key-code.”

          Already debunked this in another comment, next.

          “In response to phil’s race mixing blood transfusion stuff,

          Where I live the mixing is between black and white, as is the case in much of the USA. In that case, there is a new race to get blood tranfusions from. However, if there was mixing between say Asian, black, and white, then it may pose on some problems if done EN MASSE, but I don’t see that happening.”

          ………MIXED POPULATIONS ARE NOT HOMOGENEUOUS to the point where they just”blend” perfectly to have transferable medical traits henced they are called “mixed”.

          “It could be that EN MASSE mixing produces another race, say like how present day Mexicans were created. ”
          That’s not a race, that a nationality.
          “In that case, blood transfusions would have to come from within the “New race”, so to speak.”
          Already talked about this.

          “Of course, Iv’e seen no threat of EN MASSE race mixing in the USA. It’s mostly paranoia brought up by white trash KKK bigots. It was a big thing to say back during the 1960s civil rights era etc…”

          You seemed pretty keen on “making them white” for a while. BTW EN MASSE in the U.S was never my concern but your suggestions were promoting such whether you meant it or not.

        • Now Jason, just to satisfy you, here are my thought with Genes an environment.

          My thoughts are that environment can indeed help people on a behavioral level, but one must understand the continuum.

          There are those who are very well disposed, those who require moderate assistance, those who need specific assistance but can prevail, and those who are hopeless.

          What’s the point? What makes them different is there innate selves, there being that responds to circumatances.

          So in regards to black children and people in general, I believe there are those who can benefit through different ways BUT their will be a particularly prominent section that will be too stubborn.

          Hell, the man I mention Jerome Dowd thought of away to implement something like this via belief in it like how Blacks in America were domesticated.

          The key is to allow some of there original culture, use what there is of the original to organize them, and then through time accumulate with new changes.

          this is attributed as to why American blacks, as a while, are better than Native Blacks. Hell, a south African Chief named Khama won great recognition by doing a similar process but faster by just taking his christain followers away from the pagans, his tribe is in what is now Bostwana among the most stable of native African countries.

          Barbados is among the most developed of the Caribbean countries yet with a high black population with little admixture (7-9%) it was said that slaves were selected for behavior according to an Unz Steve Sailor article, with a relatively low crime rate fro the region.

          These strategies seem to work from a historical perspective.

        • “There is not much to argue with. My argument stands with “activation”. The bad genes have to be activated, which is something which a good envioronment would prevent. Of course, as Swank had done, I will try to get more data.”

          Again, I already disproved this based on IQ regression in US black children.

          “Anyhow, yeah, I think race mixing in the USA is a good thing, especially considering the riches of the nation would make it work far better than say in Brazil etc…” Okay, do you even understand the relevance of money for environment? Please elaborate.

          “Of course, race mixing was encouraged by the past Brazillian government, but cause the nation is so poor, the effect of it didn’t raise the social status of the Africans. Therefore, we now see vast fevelas of poverty. However, there are some successful black Brazillians, something ignored by racists.”
          IQ and income, end of story. You can have exceptions, but that doesn’t disprove the trend.

          “As far as eugenics within black populations go, I would favor the avoidance of incest, as I have spoken of in the past. However, past that, it might be difficult to implement some program of smart blacks breeding more than more dull ones. The probability is that it will never happen.”

          Excepted I already explained how eugenics already did happened.

        • Optimus Prime

          Phil, do you consider yourself as a black man? Do you get offended when they talk about TNB and other black related stuffs. do you feel an imperative to do something about it? BTW, Your observations about blacks are very interesting

        • To Optimus prime,
          “Phil, do you consider yourself as a black man? Do you get offended when they talk about TNB and other black related stuffs. do you feel an imperative to do something about it?”
          Yes, a little but it depends on how far they go and what they suggest, well if you mean that merely there complaining drives me then no but what does is my cousin Zachary, the story of King Khama, and the actually conditions Aframs live in now. Of course, many got there by their own wills but if there are those who can cooperate then I will find them.

          ” BTW, Your observations about blacks are very interesting”

          Well if you are sincere then thank you, however if by “interesting” you mean “makes me uncomfortable” as a euphemism then I’ll give you credit in which you have better inhibition that Jason.

  8. Jason Y

    quotes by phil

    You seemed pretty keen on “making them white” for a while. BTW EN MASSE in the U.S was never my concern but your suggestions were promoting such whether you meant it or not.

    Why not? The USA is rich enough to handle it.

    “It could be that EN MASSE mixing produces another race, say like how present day Mexicans were created. ”
    That’s not a race, that a nationality.
    “In that case, blood transfusions would have to come from within the “New race”, so to speak.”
    Already talked about this.

    Where? You can’t say blood transfusion problems exist in modern day Mexico. I know of none. Your Nazi biased article (speaking in a non-sarcastic tone) didn’t even bring up any.

    Possibly in Brazil, you see a mix of Asian, black and white, and that’s the problem. That’s different between a mix of only two races. Again the Nazi biased website exxagerates the problem to promote a far right political agenda.

    • Jason Y

      quote by phil

      Barbados is among the most developed of the Caribbean countries yet with a high black population with little admixture (7-9%) it was said that slaves were selected for behavior according to an Unz Steve Sailor article, with a relatively low crime rate fro the region.

      Possibly that could happen in smaller areas, but in large areas it’s virtually impossible.

      All in all, a lot of this rambling by black and white racists alike is simply to promote a racist agenda, one that is morally wrong and not scientifically needed.

      Ok, fine pure bred Barbados people are doing well. That’s fine and dandy, but is that remark also trying to say Brazillains are ugly dumb mixed raced monsters (maybe subliminally)?

      Also, note the environment in Barbados is excellent, but of course most racists of any skin color, will ignore that fact.

      • Jason Y

        Note santo-culto and phil’s argument way back was so extreme, they had the NERVE to say mixed raced brazillians were ugly abominations. Sorry to sound impolite or rude on here, but it was what they said.

        So who’s going off on a tangent here? Me with liberal fantasies of positive race mixing, or them and thier obsession with showing that mixed raced people are shit?

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          Excepted I already explained how eugenics already did happened.

          I’m sure it already has in small areas, but on a large scale it’s impossible. So why not just focus on improving the environment and ignore silly stuff like “fear of race mixing” etc..?

      • “Ok, fine pure bred Barbados people are doing well. That’s fine and dandy, but is that remark also trying to say Brazillains are ugly dumb mixed raced monsters (maybe subliminally)?”

        Okay I see you are getting off topic. BTW I’m a light skinned lack and I’m technically mixed, so chances are there is a Brazilian counterparts somewhere so I would be a hypocrite of course if I were to suggest such a thing.

        “Note santo-culto and phil’s argument way back was so extreme, they had the NERVE to say mixed raced brazillians were ugly abominations. Sorry to sound impolite or rude on here, but it was what they said.”

        WOW, you are a fucking liar, I NEVER said that. Quote me.

        “I’m sure it already has in small areas, but on a large scale it’s impossible. So why not just focus on improving the environment and ignore silly stuff like “fear of race mixing” etc..?”

        In my explanation, improving the environment is already part of the idea but it is a LIMITED effect. Small areas, well thing start out small at first, plus there will be various ways to attract those who do want to succeed say through having infrastructure to have a chance at success and those who simply want to cause havoc could either leave the “small area”, negotiate, or meet the consequences if they provoke first.

        • Jason Y

          Yes, you did say mixed raced people were ugly abominations. You all said it subliminally. You went on and on about beauty, the subliminal message being that mixed raced people were inferior as far as beauty goes (among other things). You said it, even if it’s true your light skinned yourself.

          You said there was a standard for beauty, all in the context of santo-culto’s argument that mixed raced people were “monstrosities” (That was his exact quote.) Where am I fucking lying?

          If you weren’t willing to challenge santo-culto’s remark, then it’s obvious you agreed with him.

        • “Yes, you did say mixed raced people were ugly abominations. You all said it subliminally. You went on and on about beauty, the subliminal message being that mixed raced people were inferior as far as beauty goes (among other things). You said it, even if it’s true your light skinned yourself.”

          Saying how attractiveness is based on certain traits and pointing out how those traits are less in a certain group is not the same as calling them ugly through ethnic hate.

        • “You said there was a standard for beauty, all in the context of santo-culto’s argument that mixed raced people were “monstrosities” (That was his exact quote.) Where am I fucking lying?” That I called them monsters, which they are NOT. A matter of fact, I never said anything about both beauty AND mixed race populations.

          “If you weren’t willing to challenge santo-culto’s remark, then it’s obvious you agreed with him.”

          Well first of all I never said ANYTHING about mixed race people and beauty, just beauty itself. Second of all, I DID discuss personality being a strong trait of attractiveness, and in the words of OTHER BLACK MEN they said how rude an insensitive attitudes they found common in black women wanted them to white women.

          I even found a NATIVE AFRICAN OLD WOMAN PICTURE and pointed out if I new someone who looked like that I wouldn’t call her ugly.

      • “Also, note the environment in Barbados is excellent, but of course most racists of any skin color, will ignore that fact.”

        Sort of like ignoring how Robert pointed out that EVEN controlled for environment Black and white differences persisted.

        Damn, I can’t believe I didn’t point that out til now.

    • “Why not? The USA is rich enough to handle it.” Okay, elaborate on how being rich will work.

      “Where? You can’t say blood transfusion problems exist in modern day Mexico. I know of none. Your Nazi biased article (speaking in a non-sarcastic tone) didn’t even bring up any.” My rebuttal wasn;t about blood problems in Mexico, in which it’s mixing history isn’t as monolithic as brazil’s but that’s not to say Brazil doesn’t have divisions.

      My point was about just simply mixing two races together doesn’t equal a new race as simple as that. What you really have is closer to a trail mix genepool

      “Possibly in Brazil, you see a mix of Asian, black and white, and that’s the problem. That’s different between a mix of only two races. Again the Nazi biased website exxagerates the problem to promote a far right political agenda.”
      While the levels of admixture would indeed make things worst, that doesn’t mean biracial mixing en masse should still be promoted. All we know is that by mere logic that compared to triracial it isn’t that bad.

      • Jason Y

        If it isn’t that bad, then what’s the big deal? Why not promote it? Better yet, why not just leave mixed raced people alone. Quit picking on them and telling them “falsely” that they’re ugly. It isn’t nice.

        • Jason Y

          My above comment was in reference to race mixing involving only two races.

        • Jason Y

          Again race mixing, up to a point, isn’t evil or wrong. All this stuff is just exxagerated to promote a far right agenda, like you’d see on phil’s Nazi biased website. As the saying goes, “We shouldn’t believe everything we read.” Yeah, that’s right lol.

        • “If it isn’t that bad, then what’s the big deal? Why not promote it? Better yet, why not just leave mixed raced people alone. Quit picking on them and telling them “falsely” that they’re ugly. It isn’t nice.”

          I’m NOT trying to demonized mixed race people, my point is that in mixed race POPULATIONS based on how the traits of TWO different races can lead to biological issue.

          I never called them ugly. Also, I said that it wasn’t bad COMPARED to triracial combination en masse. My point that it goes by the logical of Mon-bi-tri in order of favorable racial POPULATION conditions in terms of a genepool.

        • Jason, at first I thought you were just worried about racial flares like a lot of people but no, you have gone as far as to compare to some based on weak ass perception. You were running out of arguments thus you just flat out used the Ad hominem line accussing me of racist ideology and accuse me of prejudice when I didn’t.

          YOU admitted that Brazil being tri racial (the other component being Amerindian, not Asian) but you haven’t confessed to possible intermediate consequences with two that aren’t as obvious (obvious doesn’t mean necessarily harmful).

          So, therefore, I have at least REASON to be weary of en masse race mixing as a means to racial uplift when you consider the multiple issues I have pointed out, and I should also make note of how you haven’t elaborated of how “riches” will help.

          I can elaborate on my end, so you do yours.
          Outside of “it won’t work and small areas”, both of which I spoken about, you have given no other reason why eugenics would be bad.

        • https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/the-genesis-of-black-minority-problems-in-a-non-black-society/#comment-247992

          Remember on Christmas how I decided out of good faith just to press my aggression and give you chance? I thought we made progress but no, now you like a incomprehensible idiot you are you have the fucking gull to falsely accuse me of insulting a group of people based on there appearance that reflects their character as well as suggesting “subliminally” that I am against mixed race people.

          Let me give you a little perspective, I have a cousin named Zach who wasn’t even one of those blacks who were nice as a kid. When he visited me and my brother he was rude and abusive, and his mother did little away or at home for him.

          Now he’s a Baby daddy with no Job. However, my mother KNEW him, she practically was his mother and said that if he was loved he would be different. This ties back to what you were saying. While you may say this contradicts what I believe, I refer back to my continuum idea.

          It wasn’t just Zach, but then I started seeing it as a pattern for blacks, and not just to themselves but to others. I was ashamed until I had faith when I saw Jamal Bryant leading organized masses against the chaos of Baltimore.

          From that point on I went with the culture of best for ideas, and conformed IQ and such around that idea. As I got deeper and deeper into knowing what was going on, the more vivid was my realization of what the issues were and how they affected people.

          I started questioning my talent, thinking “where does the white start for me and where does the black ends?”. After multiple times of challenging myself into facts, all I have with me now are knowledge of African Culture that I treasure, some notable chiefs and tribes, specialized abilities of Blacks, that’s all I got.

          One way or another, environment or eugenics, I serious towards a solution because I’ve learned from comments in both the distant past and present that the behavior will not be tolerated. Sure, some Europeans just made books of insulting our pathology while others made books of our way of life with intrigue and detail. However, like Zachary, often only one will even take the time to know them while others won’t tolerate it.

          Environment, against my wishful thinking initially, is limited and alone is not enough. Studies have confirmed this, but with that said it is not unimportant. However, due to either your dishonesty or utter stupidity , I am drive o near 6:00 A.M not just simply to silence you but because you are indeed a ignorant and disgusting lowlife who has little mental power of comprehension as to KNOW I stuck out my heart to him once but to forget like a dumb animal and accuse me of bigotry.

          Why I’m even talking to you is because I have no more respect for you but after that at I had it with you antics because it is clear that you REALLY cared about “racism or the good of blacks” you would’ve tried harder than those pathetic attempts of debate. I on the otherhand I have sacrificed near everything I regarded myself and society with down to my origins and inner nature while you indulge yourself with the “comfortable” ideas day after day.

          No story or half assed explanation will be sufficient if you even think of replying. I’ve asked you multiple times about the effect of “richness” and you gave none. Feel free to rant and claim whatever you feel is right or wrong in a moral or literal sense, in the meantime I will rationalize that for all this time I’ve been trying to argue with some madman.

  9. Sonya

    wow the arguments on site

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