The Final Three Steps of Wisdom

RL: Wisdom = (something like this):

  1. Accurate pattern observance and formation.
  2. Accurate pattern recognition.
  3. Accurate hypothesis creation.
  4. Accurate hypothesis testing.
  5. Accurate generalization (tentative conclusion) formation.
  6. Accurate understanding of the underlying nature of existence.
  7. Acceptance of the reality of existence based on making peace with life’s underlying nature.
  8. Proper application of all of this wisdom-knowledge to the day to day business of life and especially human relations.

Steve: I think 1-5 is more the processes involved in gaining wisdom rather than what wisdom itself is.

RL: I think those were supposed to be steps actually. Step 1, Step 2, etc.

Steve: Ah makes sense. My bad.

I really like 6 and 7. I think 6 gets to the essential point about the nature of existence. Plus I wouldn’t have thought of it, but I guess there is wisdom in acceptance. 6, 7 and 8 are a bit like the Buddhist view, meditation and action.

The problem is that just understanding the underlying nature of existence is not enough.

Suppose you figure out life completely, but instead of being enlightened, you become bitter and decide that it all sucks or the downside outweighs the good. And that is a perfectly logical conclusion to make based on an understanding of the nature of existence. It makes complete sense to think that life blows or that the down outweighs the good. It’s not an erroneous belief at all. Nor is it a correct one.

And even if you thought it was wrong, there would be no way to prove it was either true or false because philosophical statements are generally outside of the realm of science. In other words, everything in philosophy is just a bunch of opinions. We can’t write some mathematical proof on the board that proves that Nietzsche or Wittgenstein or Spinoza were right. Nor can we prove they were wrong. All of that stuff is pretty much a matter of opinion.

But rationally speaking, concluding that life blows and the bad outweighs the good – let’s face it – it’s not exactly adaptive. It’s not a view that is going to lead to a happier and easier existence, which ought to be one of the goals of life and is actually a form of wisdom itself.

So instead, we have:

6. Figure out life and understand the true nature of existence, the good, the bad and the ugly. This can be thought of as possibly Transcendental Wisdom.

7. Hopefully without making too many value judgements, just simply accept the reality of existence – the good, the bad and the ugly aspects of it all – and simply accept them in toto as “this is the way things are, and there’s nothing to be done,” and  accept that life is full of sadness, pain, etc., but it doesn’t get you down because you realize that that’s just the way life is. In fact, the Buddhists say, “All of life is sadness,” or “All of life is suffering,” depending on the translation you prefer, and that’s not necessarily a false statement.

But in Buddhism you simply accept that as an unalterable aspect of reality, and you accept it and make some sort of a peace with life instead of spending your whole existence warring at life for being what it is, which after all, doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Now that you understand the full nature of existence and you have swallowed hard, bit the bullet and made whatever peace with it that you can, now you can stop fighting. You can stop fighting against life for being what it is. You can stop raging at other humans for doing what they do because that’s what they do, and there isn’t a lot of hope of changing them, and it’s not even relevant if they can change or not. You can stop hating people for acting like people, for being people.

Do you hate your cat for acting like a cat, for being a cat? Of course not. Nor do you expect it to act entirely rational? No, because after all, it’s just a cat, and cats just do what they do and don’t have a lot of control over themselves. If you accept your cat for being cat, why hate women? Why hate men? Misogynists hate women for acting like women, for doing what women do. Misandrists hate men for being men, for doing the things that men do. This second step could be called many things, but perhaps it is best summed up as Peaceful Acceptance of the True Nature of Life or possibly Meditative Wisdom.

8. Armed with all of your acquired knowledge, wisdom and whatever intelligence you have, you know go out into the world applying your understanding of the underlying nature of life and even better, your acceptance of that for what it is and your peace with it. You apply this synthesis of

  • wisdom
  • transcendental knowledge
  • peace

to the world around you and most importantly to the humans in it. Hopefully, doing that, you will try to make the most correct, rational and adaptive decisions possible to whatever events you may encounter in life. This final step can be thought of as Wisdom in Action.

67 Comments

Filed under Buddhism, Disciplines, Meditation, Metaphysics, Philosophy, Psychology, Religion

67 responses to “The Final Three Steps of Wisdom

  1. Noneofmany

    “You can stop raging at other humans for doing what they do because that’s what they do, and there isn’t a lot of hope of changing them, and it’s not even relevant if they can change or not.”

    Maybe we can’t change them, but that doesn’t mean we can’t kill them.

    • Santoculto

      It’s not wisdom

      It’s just a apathetic meditation (pleonasm).

      Buddhism look beautiful but completely paralyzing like Taoism and leftism. All them avoid confront human madness.

      The essential purpose of wisdom is harmonize, i.e, fight against “logical/pragmatic thinking” and delusional thinking by rational.

      Logical is just what works, no matter who hurtful will be.

      Rational is use logical principle of nature firstly because reality is structure, the constancy of constancy, the pattern of pattern. And create a perfect environment looking for the essence of interactions nature and try to foment harmonic dynamic, very different than human world today and not difficult to do, just start to think seriously attack the heart of conflict, the psychopathic alpha men, many them, the weakness of average people, specially about cohesion and intelligence to balance the ratio power x people.

  2. Jason Y

    Wisdom is fine, but sometimes you have to take a bold stand. In that sense, Bush’s idea of your either “for or against us” has new meaning. For instance, Santo-culto’s wishy-washy centerist position will only lead to continued right wing power in the third world.

    It’s a jungle and without taking a strong stand, you just become somebody’s bitch.

    • Jason Y

      Looking at things “wisely”, you might get tempted to say some ideas are good while other are bad. But as stated above, such a view doesn’t mesh well in a war-like situation.

      • EPGAH

        Santoculto is the one trying to take a strong stand, you are the one pushing to become the Third World’s bitch!

        If you believe it is a war, then VICTORY is survival, not trying to be nice to savages!

        The absolutely vital point to understand about war is this: only the loser can decide when a war is over. By definition, it is not possible for the winner to declare an end to war. The fighting will not stop until the loser accepts defeat and stops fighting.

        If the supposed winner declares that the war is finished and the loser disagrees, the winner may become the loser and vice versa. Remember President Bush and the “Mission Accomplished” banner? He had indeed accomplished the mission of deposing Saddam Hussein, but the war was far from over because the losers wouldn’t let it end. Only after the desperation of of the “Surge” has this mistake come even close to being corrected.

        Churchill put it best, I think.
        You ask, what is our policy? I will say: It is to wage war, by sea, land, and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us. And having gone to war, we will continue to wage war until the enemy has had enough.

        The Civilized World, from America to Israel, “wins”, but then stops fighting and the bad guy pops back up and starts fighting again.

        • Jason Y

          <

          blockquote>If you believe it is a war, then VICTORY is survival, not trying to be nice to savages!

          The US and other first world nations force feudalism on the third world. Who was the bitch first ?? Then they turn around and call the over-populated nations savage.

        • Santoculto

          Thank you Epgah!! Left obscurantism is absolutely evil even if most them have good intentions.

          I know very personally three classical leftists: Brother, your girlfriend and my uncle.

          The idea of moral insanity is not just about anti social personality but moral absurdity because good intentions become bad and very bad without good judgment/wisdom.

          Example: Accept “refugees”

          Without real understand of what is really happening you will call the people who will change your life into a nightmare.

          Average leftist man think like a woman, no instinctive logic there.

        • Santoculto

          Thank you Epgah!!

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          If you believe it is a war, then VICTORY is survival, not trying to be nice to savages!

          You don’t get it. In a sense, we would want the non-whites to be savages, because if they weren’t genetically disadvantaged, tied to fuedalism and whatnot, you can’t steal thier resources.

          It’s all a rigged game. It’s kind of like that prison/industrial complex we got going on in the US, The governments wants blacks in ghettos cause they’re being exploited for profit now. Crime is a big industry.

          Myself, If I wasn’t such a wuss I suppose, or maybe i just disagree with the prison industrial complex, I know all kinds of never-ending jobs exist in law enforcement.

        • Jason Y

          quote by santo-culto

          Example: Accept “refugees”

          Without real understand of what is really happening you will call the people who will change your life into a nightmare.

          Average leftist man think like a woman, no instinctive logic there.

          I never advocating accepting refugees or allowing illegal immigration into Europe or Anglo-America.

          That kind of far liberal (not really far left as in Communist, but maybe extreme US democrat) thinking, is absurd. However, pointing out a few wrong things in some leftist agendas doesn’t make the other one right at all.

        • EPGAH

          We don’t FORCE feudalism on the savages. In fact, we leave them alone as long as they don’t get in our way. We have no control over their breeding. Correction, we take no control over their breeding.

          We COULD neuter them and within what, 20(?) years, they would no longer be a problem. The ones that still existed would keep a VERY low profile.

          As I put in another post, we’re not stealing their resources, they don’t need, use, or value the resources, but they know WE DO! So they try to prevent us from getting the resources we need to make everyone’s life better–INCLUDING THE SAVAGES! How much have our medicines extended the lives of even our enemies? Why do we help our enemies, but no savage ever helps anyone but themselves?

          We don’t keep the savages down. THEY DO!
          Take the Blacks in ghettos. How many TRILLIONS, and how many centuries have we tried to uplift the Blacks? From Schweitzer and Livingstone to Thomas Sowell…

          Question for you: Where has all those funds gone? All those millions of dollars and yet there is still
          1.) Black Ghettos
          2.) Thugs&Drugs still run the Ghettos
          3.) The dropout rate for Blacks is still over the top
          4.) Blacks have the highest incidence of unwed mothers
          5.) Blacks are the predominant race in prisons, but Latinos are running close to them.

          With all these issues NOT changing one tiny bit, and all these supposed “Organizations” receiving millions of dollars yearly and those same organizations supposedly are there to advance the Black cause–then why haven’t any of the Black issues improved? I’d even say they got worse!

          Why? Because those “Sham” organizations are being run by con men who are pocketing the majority of the funds, living in Luxury homes, driving luxury cars, playing the luxury life! The poor Blacks are being “used” by their very own race and they aren’t smart enough to even know it. Blacks abusing Blacks. Now that”s a new concept. Right. That’s the oldest con game in the world.

          And of course, the ones who make it are downed as “coons” or “Not Real Blacks”…because if THEY make it, other Blacks could too, and the whites might stop the gravy train.

          And yes, you HAVE spoke out in favor of keeping illegals and letting in MORE worthless, violent Third World refugees. Do you want to go back through your old posts, or just take my Word for it?

        • EPGAH

          We were the bitch first, actually, if you go back to the savage Moslem occupation of most of Europe.
          We had to obey their laws, pay their taxes, and pay an EXTRA tax–Jizya, the Existence Tax–to continue existing in our own countries as non-Moslems. This sounds like the Black Hand extortion scheme in 1800s Italy, but it’s worse, because the savages didn’t respect the either-or nature of extortion. To wit, they killed their betters even if fully paid up on Protection Money!

          We eventually rediscovered our roots and more importantly, our old tech. We put the boot to the savages’ ass or on the savages’ necks, whichever you prefer. And we have to keep it there, because any time we let up, they do it to us instead.
          South Africa, Haiti, San Bernadino, how many examples do we need before we stop giving the savages a chance to hurt us?

          So I guess in THAT SENSE ONLY, we want the savages to stay savage, as in too low-tech to be much of a threat. We keep trying to pacify them, but the only thing that keeps savages peaceful is beating them when they attack–and it has to be a good hard beating. If they get everything they want when they misbehave, they learn it WORKS, and they’ll do it MORE!
          Take Iran and their habit of taking Americans hostage, perhaps?

          Let’s call this “Operant Conditioning”.

        • EPGAH

          PS, as to those “never ending jobs” in law enforcement, they DO end: The cop gets fired when he does his job! From Darren Wilson to that one in Spring Valley who carried the expelled student out when she refused to leave even after being told to by the teacher AND Principal.

          Oh, and the McKinney Pool Party cop. Some bitch elbows the owner of the property which got overrun, the cop wrestles her to the ground, two thugs come up behind him to help her, he pulls a gun and the thugs back off.
          https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/danger-5.jpg?w=640&h=355
          https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/danger-6.jpg?w=640&h=355
          https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/danger-7.jpg?w=640&h=355
          https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/danger-8.jpg?w=640&h=355

          This could be called the Application Of Wisdom. Is it the cop’s wisdom drawing his gun, or the thugs’ wisdom backing off? Note that just as I said, the ENEMY, not the cop, decides when the fight begins and when it ends!

    • EPGAH

      It wasn’t Bush’s idea, it happened many times, many ways BEFORE Bush, even savages figured out some variant of it!

      A war can end in only one way, and that is when the loser stops fighting.

      There are many ways to reach this point, of course. The losing side may stop fighting when the last one dies or is imprisoned; the few African Civil Wars that have actually ended tend to follow this course. The fighting may stop when the losing side waves the white flag and offers a bribe to the winner; countless European wars through the centuries ended this way.

      If we really want peace, rather than DEMAND the fighting stops, we have to totally crush the side we consider bad.

      • Jason Y

        The so called non-savages are always wanting resources in the third world. Even in cases like the middle east, where there is mass incest, it is also the case. It’s just a case of the first world capitalists taking advantage of the genetically disadvantaged for mass profit.

        • EPGAH

          Taking advantage? By giving them billions of dollars, and therefore the capability of waging unceasing war on the non-savage?
          That’s a new definition of “Taking advantage”!

          The savages don’t need the resources, they don’t know what to do with them, they can’t even keep our countries working when they take them over. The proverbial Dog In Manger!
          What’s the point of stopping us from getting resources if they don’t need them either? Just to be bastards?

          What would you prefer? We could just kick the savages aside, you know, put the savages on Reservations, take the resources we need and never worry about them attacking us…Or we could just wipe them out.

          Or of course, we could make a really, really long drill that reaches all the way through the planet and takes the resources with no fighting, but that would require…MORE resources and money to reach that far! It would also have undetermined eco-side-effects. Possibly including tectonic disruption. Earthquakes on a videogame scale!

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          What would you prefer? We could just kick the savages aside, you know, put the savages on Reservations, take the resources we need and never worry about them attacking us…Or we could just wipe them out.

          But isn’t that what white nationalists want?

        • EPGAH

          Not really, we just want:
          1.) The resources to keep our better way of life going.
          2.) If the savages can behave, we can let A FEW in. The best and brightest, the ones that can be useful to us.
          3.) If the savages rob, rape, or attack us in any way, they deserve to die, and DEFINITELY not be allowed in! To avoid things like this:
          http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/13-year-old-school-girl-kidnapped-by-muslim-migrants-raped-for-30-hours.html/
          4.) If the savages KEEP attacking us, they choose to be our enemy and whatever means necessary should be engaged to pacify them again.
          5.) Their survival is wholly dependent on NOT being our enemy–but in case you haven’t read my last few posts in this thread, that is THEIR decision, not ours!

          If killing ONE savage is what it takes, great.
          If killing EVERY LAST ONE is what it takes, again, that’s THEIR decision, not ours!

  3. Dave Mowers

    “We can’t write some mathematical proof on the board that proves that Nietzsche or Wittgenstein or Spinoza were right…”

    I disagree.

    We simply needed more data-specific to the instance. Not overall assumptive value but actual imperative association.

    If I can diagnose a person based on philosophical tendency AND see there day-to-day decisions in real time then I can easily deduce the outcome as can any F.B.I. profiler who are all using technology exactly for this purpose.

    They call it predicative.

    • “I disagree.

      We simply needed more data-specific to the instance. Not overall assumptive value but actual imperative association.

      If I can diagnose a person based on philosophical tendency AND see there day-to-day decisions in real time then I can easily deduce the outcome as can any F.B.I. profiler who are all using technology exactly for this purpose.

      They call it predicative.”

      Exactly what are you actually trying to measure here? In the scenario that you’re describing, it seems you’re just seeing correlations between someone’s beliefs and there decision making, the latter contributing to their outcome.

      What Robert’s talking about is the actual perspective of life and how each individual could see it differently, as well as steps required for someone to actually accept life as what it is and that it is unchangeable.

      Though if you are just focusing on the very comment itself, rather than the entire point of this article then nevermind.

  4. Interesting reflections.

    In Buddhism, transcendental wisdom is not an intellectual thing. It is a direct non-conceptual insight into the nature of awareness, the nature of reality.

    Samsara, the cycle of birth and death and rebirth, is characterised by suffering or unsatisfactoriness. Psychologically, this involves the three mental veils of ignorance, anger and desire which obscure the true nature of the mind.

    The Buddhist path is concerned with removing the veils or obscurations and thereby realising the true nature of awareness, gaining liberation from suffering and realising the true source of happiness.

    The Buddha tells you about suffering but also tells you the path to the cessation of suffering.

    In the Mahayana, the purpose of enlightenment is not just to gain liberation for oneself but also for the sake of all sentient beings.

    I’m sure you are right that this path involves acceptance of the way things are but it also involves love and compassion. That is something natural and spontaneous. The natural qualities of awareness are said to be openness/spaciousness, clarity, and sensitivity.

    I’ve met a couple of people who I believe we’re quite far along this path and they weren’t gloomy or disconnected. They were open, warm, good humoured and happy. They had something uncontrived and a sense of relaxation about them. It wasn’t quite normal but definitely positive.

    • Samsara

      Steve,

      It wasn’t quite normal but definitely positive.

      That’s the part that really throws some folks off. Brilliant writing by the way.

      • Jason Y

        It’s amazing how so many people will write for free on a race realist or political blog (or Facebook for that matter), but you have to pay people thousands of dollars to get quality material for say a “home biz” blog.

        It shows that hate sells, just sex sells.

    • EPGAH

      Not really, you can blind yourself to bad conditions anywhere. Take the literally slavishly devoted subjects of North Korea.
      Suffering IS life, Kim Jong is God and they’re happy to be along for the ride!

      How much has enlightenment liberated them? Or the people of South Africa? Or the hostages Iran keeps taking?

      • Jason Y

        ep-gah does have a point here. Isn’t it kind of wussy, no matter if your right or left, to just ignore reality and focus on a dreamland? Anyhow, from a leftist perspective, it seems Buddhism is just another way to keep the “savages” or “genetically disadvantaged” or “queers” etc.. in their place, don’t you think?

    • Samsara

      “All happiness comes from awareness. The more we are conscious, the deeper the joy. Acceptance of pain, non-resistance, courage and endurance; these open deep and perennial sources of real happiness; true bliss.”
      ~Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

  5. The final step of wisdom its to put all Jew rats in the oven.

    • Jason Y

      A HA !!!😆 Holocaust denial? You see right here. The WNs are lying.

      With an attitude like that, what’s the odds the Nazis really did kill the Jews?

      • Santoculto

        About nazi “also a bad thing” denialists… Nazis to do experiments in persons ( in non human animals are also completely immoral) is not??

        Again folks in the head of a certain person here the world is very easy to understand, just read didactic school history books. And he still will suggest to you “study more”…

        No doubt that is a anti-wisdom guy, a eternal student.

        • Santoculto

          Correcting

          ” is also immoral”

          @_@

        • Jason Y

          Or how about novelty stuff beyond science like human lampshades😆 ??

        • Jason Y

          Yeah, we definitely don’t need serial killers running the world. I saw enough of Buffalo Bill on Silence of the Lambs, thank you.

        • Jason Y

          What are u saying santo-culto? Since we do experiments on animals, which BTW I’m totally against even on insects, then your saying a green light should be allowed so we can operate on non-white monkeys, correct? I mean why not? We’re into politically incorrect discussions, so go ahead, have a cigar, and speak your mind…

        • EPGAH

          Human lampshades is an old myth that has been debunked repeatedly.
          Why are you bringing up an old lie?

          China made a Nice Belt out of an Englishwoman, does that count?

          If you REALLY want to talk about human experiments, why not look up Japan’s Unit 731?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

          They did experiments that even scared the Nazis!

    • Negroess Negroess

      Idiot!

      • Negroess Negroess

        I was referring to the indravaruna. Another clown from India. The land of idiots. The definition of a Nazi in my mind is literal. A Nazi is an person who wants to puts news in ovens.

        • Jason Y

          I was referring to the indravaruna. Another clown from India. The land of idiots. The definition of a Nazi in my mind is literal. A Nazi is an person who wants to puts news in ovens.

          Some will do anything to preserve thier elite status, even if that elite status is just one step over an untouchable.

        • EPGAH

          So that’s why they haven’t let the street-shitters die yet?
          They like having someone below them?

        • I would love to put the news in ovens sometimes myself. It’s so damn depressing!

  6. Jason Y

    Note the left does the same as the right. They point out a few idiotic aspects of the other agenda and then make it seem like all supporters of ANY leftist or rightist agenda favors those ideas.

    No, not all US democrats favor illegal immigration, especially ones in blue collar trades etc.. No, not all Communists favor illegal immigration, cause they just see it as some elite scheme to defuse third world revolution.

    • Negroess Negroess

      True communists are a varied bunch. The problem is the moderates. They are stuck in mud, but I do think your humanity is a good sign Jason of your personality. But moderate stuff never achieves anything.

  7. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    So that’s why they haven’t let the street-shitters die yet?
    They like having someone below them?

    Good question. Perhaps they are sadists. Ironically, the left could can see irony in your comment as well as the right. For instance, why are they street-shitters to begin with? Could it be from neglect, perhaps cause, as with other third world areas, the lower caste are literally left to shit? lol

    • EPGAH

      I once compared the difference in behavior between whites and nonwhites to being housebroken and not housebroken. I never expected it to be this literal.

      As to irony, I find it more ironic, you still want to push that people like me (And possibly you?) are equal with people like that. They can’t even control their bowels long enough to find a toilet–and you want to say I’m the same as THAT?! 200 years ago, the two of us would be dueling at dawn for an insult like that, don’t you think?

      • Jason Y

        Could also be a difference in culture. For instance, today I said “You shouldn’t smoke around kids” to my “country trailer living” neice. She then said, “Do you have kids?” sarcastically. See in her world, and among her friends, there is nothing immoral or wrong with smoking around children and babies. But most of the civilized world sees that as child abuse.

        I don’t know. It could be poop in the street is a cultural handicap in India,. But I’d place more money on neglect by the government. At the very least, as with my redneck neice, a government could educate people on more healthy ways of living, as snobby at that might sound to some.

        • Jason Y

          Note in some Filipino slums I visited, there was toilets but often they had to share a well for water. Sharing water for showering (Yes, everyone would cover up somewhat,) was just considered normal there. Anyhow, I didn’t see that the people iived in horrible conditions, at least not compared to India. I’d say they lived like people would live, if say they were going camping in the Boy Scouts or something.

          Basically it was a 19th century way of living, sort of, with the exception of most homes having some primitive toilet with running water etc..

        • EPGAH

          A difference in culture? That’s the oldest Liberal excuse in the book!
          It’s the handwave for everything from China’s rampant pollution to Moslem rape culture.

          We’ve been trying to teach savages for centuries, but they have no INCENTIVE to listen to us!
          We have to decide how much we want them to learn. If we don’t care, put up with the consequences. If we DO care, put up a punishment for not learning!

    • EPGAH

      If of course, you are admitting YOU are incontinent, I’ll uh, just stay upwind. Don’t shit the streets in America, that’s a misdemeanor in most places, and in some considered TWO misdemeanors or even a low-grade felony!

      http://assets.amuniversal.com/3dd65b408ee801332d09005056a9545d

      • Jason Y

        That just shows the level of neglect. At least in our USA public housing projects we have toilets in the buildings and shitting is a crime there. However, in India, the government literally does nothing for lower castes, with the exception of letting them live of course.

        Of course, an opponent might say, “Well shouldn’t the people build toilets?” However, maybe they can’t. Perhaps a sewage system is beyond reach due to the poverty. In that case, you have to poop on the street.

        • EPGAH

          Well, do you consider that sadism then to keep them alive?
          At what point does eugenics stop being murder and start being a kindness?

          And no, a sewage system is never “beyond reach due to poverty”. Britain installed one when the British ran India, what happened to it?
          If they cannot run their own country, why don’t they admit it and give the country back to those who did a better job?

          The whole problem seems to stem from their pride and their funny idea of being an “independent” country. You’re not really “independent” if another country pays your bills and takes in your excess population.

          Let’s see, paying your bills, and picking up your shit…Don’t we call that a “pet”?

  8. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Human lampshades is an old myth that has been debunked repeatedly.
    Why are you bringing up an old lie?

    China made a Nice Belt out of an Englishwoman, does that count?

    If you REALLY want to talk about human experiments, why not look up Japan’s Unit 731?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

    They did experiments that even scared the Nazis!

    Wasn’t Japan an ally of Germany as well as a fellow believer in race realism and supremacy? Seems like your criticizing your own philosophy here.

    Anyhow, why shouldn’t we believe the human lampshade story, as well as other horror filled tales about human expermentation?

    • EPGAH

      Because the Japanese based THEIR supremacy on the idea their Emperor was a bastard child of God, rather than on actual science.
      Let us define science as something that can be measured, verified, reproduced by objective measures, rather than ONLY by people with something to prove. Let’s call the latter an “agenda”, shall we?

      Can you PROVE Japanese supremacy? What are Japan’s major inventions? Remember, we’re talking pre-Nintendo era here, before the Civilized World nuked Japan and rebuilt it in our image, so you can’t name the transistor (Which was made by whites) or anything based thereon.
      We can discuss what each of the other groups contributed to civilization, if you like? Or there are other posts, by Robert, by myself, or others, about the subject. This should be the best proof of supremacy/inferiority.

      “Why shouldn’t we believe the human lampshade story”? Because it’s been debunked as a lie. Same reason you should no longer believe the Earth is flat or even the geocentric model of the universe.
      Not only has the Earth been proven round, and NOT the center of our solar system, but our solar system isn’t even the center of our galaxy, we’re a speck in a distant arm of the galaxy. However, unlike the nihilists, I don’t think that makes us insignificant, we’re the ones that made advancements, that can CHANGE OUR ENVIRONMENT–and maybe soon, spread to other planets!

      I’m sure you have a big book of Urban Legends you’d like to believe in, particularly if all the villains are white? But your BELIEF doesn’t make it REAL, we don’t live in the PlaneScape, OK?

      • Jason Y

        No, the Nazis have a whole history of using human beings as scientific test subjects. That’s on top of the fact they murdered thousands of disabled people, believing they were purifying the gene pool, and stopping the finanical burden of caring for the disabled.

        Prove me wrong.

      • Jason Y

        Actually, as with Germany, Japan was on the path to a liberal democracy in the 30s. then the depression hit, and the psychos took power.

        Yes, I’m sure, as with the Nazis, the Japanese allowed serial killer types and the like into thier armed forces etc.. No doubt, in the crazed worship of the emperor, whom ironically wasn’t an extremist himself, they did sadistic experiments.

        • Jason Y

          Meant to say “Japan was on the path to liberal democracy in the 20s”

        • EPGAH

          The Emperor WAS an extremist. It was HIS idea, not Yamamoto’s, to attack China, and later, to attack America. Also, you claimed the psychos took power, but then you claim he wasn’t a psycho. Which is it?
          Even in the “unconditional” surrender after the second nuke, the Japanese DEMANDED their Emperor be held blameless, and it all be blamed on the heads of the military–including Yamamoto who famously wrote about his misgivings about attacking America!

          “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”

          Do you remember that? Imagine getting blamed for something and you were the only one speaking out AGAINST it! Like blaming me for letting a shitload of Mexicans and Moslems into America?

          And actually, Japan was an agrarian backwater, resisting America upgrading them–but then they suddenly switched to being a warmonger.
          The depression of the 30s was AMERICA’S depression, not Japan’s!

    • EPGAH

      General Lucius Clay, the military governor of the US zone of occupied Germany, explained the lampshade story, “Well, it turned out actually that it was goat flesh [sic —clearly the general meant skin]. But at the trial [of Ilse Koch] it was still human flesh.” (Interview with Lucius Clay, 1976, Official Proceeding of the George C. Marshall Research Foundation Quoted in M. Weber, “Buchenwald: Legend and Reality,” The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1986-87 7(4), pp. 406-407.)

    • EPGAH

      Don’t worry, though, if you make a big enough fuss, I’m sure people will rewrite the history any way you want it. Last week, a group of Afrocentrics got the idea that Black Moors were in England before it WAS England published in an official history book!

      Of course, they left out that they were just ~200-400 soldiers of Rome recruited from North Africa stationed there to guard the walls. And more importantly, that they were rotated OUT!

      Now, though, Blacks and Moslems can say they have a legit claim to the country because they were there “first”!

      • Jason Y

        Don’t worry, though, if you make a big enough fuss, I’m sure people will rewrite the history any way you want it. Last week, a group of Afrocentrics got the idea that Black Moors were in England before it WAS England published in an official history book!

        I don’t think some silly story about Moors being in England before there was England compares to human lampshades.

        Well, there is a lot of curly headed people in Britain and Ireland (and it’s daughter nations), but that’s a subject for a differnet blog post.

        • EPGAH

          Actually, it’s not a silly story, it’s a retcon that Blacks were “natives” in England before the English were. I call it laying the groundwork.

          Look how much bullshit we get from the savages who actually WERE here before us. And how much bullshit we get from rioting Blacks.

          Now put those together. Blacks who can’t behave, but because they were “here before English”, the English have to give them special privileges. All because of a horrifying retcon of history!

          I’m sorry if you can’t see how that’s a much worse agenda advancement, maybe this video will help?

          If anything, that makes the human lampshade look like a silly story, doesn’t it?

        • EPGAH

          Also, Robert himself in a different post said:
          “Contrary to popular nonsense, Nazis did not hold Jews to be inferior. Nazi racialism quite correctly recognized the superiority of the Jews. Instead, they just held that the Jews were evil.”

        • EPGAH

          I’m posting these again for you, because you didn’t see that the lampshade was GOAT skin not HUMAN skin!
          One would think the case is closed and further repetition of these propaganda stories is just anti-German bigotry–in this case used correctly, as bigotry means ignoring facts that counter your worldview.
          You are right and the facts are wrong?

          General Lucius Clay, the military governor of the US zone of occupied Germany, explained the lampshade story, “Well, it turned out actually that it was goat flesh [sic —clearly the general meant skin]. But at the trial [of Ilse Koch] it was still human flesh.” (Interview with Lucius Clay, 1976, Official Proceeding of the George C. Marshall Research Foundation Quoted in M. Weber, “Buchenwald: Legend and Reality,” The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1986-87 7(4), pp. 406-407.)

          In regard to the human soap story, darling of the establishment media and virulent anti-revisionist Deborah Lipstadt noted in 1981 “The fact is that the Nazis never used the bodies of Jews, or for that matter anyone else, for the production of soap.” (“Nazi Soap Rumor During World War II,” Los Angeles Times, May 16, 1981, p II/2.) Michael Berenbaum, former director of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, now supervising Steven Spielberg’s taxpayer-funded Holocaust remembrance project, admitted in 1994, “there is no evidence, despite widespread reports, that human fat was used for soap. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum tested several bars of soap reported to be composed of human fat but no such fat was found.” (Y. Gutman, M. Berenbaum, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp, Indiana University Press, Bloomington and Indianapolis, 1994, p.80.) One would clearly think that the case is closed, and that further repetition of these propaganda stories would constitute nothing more (and nothing less!) than arrant anti-German bigotry.

  9. Santoculto

    We must ne objective here. New left or cultural Marxism was and is a applied politics based on Frankfurt (jooische) school and by work of Antonio Gramsci.

    In other words, all this cultural changes (would wonderful if not were just a mean) are completely derived by this Gramsci political theory, conquer the power via culture infiltration, manipulation and change.

    Come back to the international communism by Lenin than Stalin population point of view AND fundamental practice.

    Communism is at surface by now with new left a wonderful purpose, the heaven in the earth. At surface look just correct but their propaganda limit itself at just propaganda because gauche caviar don’t want equality for them.

    What leftists understand as “equality” mean ” social and economical equalization of middle and working classes”, in other words, creating a super discontinued social hierarchy with middle classes completely equalized with working classes and the elite in the pedestal as authoritarian super nanny.

    Middle classes are the key of real equality and with strong reduction of the power of parasitic elite, of course we still can have a productive elite, because what I learn by John, they are not a monolith.

    Is hard to capture the real high functioning anti social people, they are master to mask their spiritual disease.

    • Jason Y

      The far right has taken the criticism of the Frankfurt school way too far. They’re literally advocating a world with no charity and humanity.

      Yes, of course, some silly things like “rights for disabled trans-gendered Eskimos” should be opposed. lol However, that isn’t the same as rights (in general) for the disabled, blacks, aborigines etc..

      • Jason Y

        A society which places “too much” as opposed to a normal amount of emphasis on “misfit rights” might be a bad society. For instance, it might encourage a lot of people to be babies rather than fight things out like adults. For instance, some “struggle” in life, as opposed to just being given everything might be good for character development.

        • Jason Y

          In other words, people who don’t struggle might use thier misfit status as a crutch. Of course, that would only be in an “extreme PC” society.

        • EPGAH

          You mean the infantilization of Blacks for the last 60 years?
          Or Moslems who get so much “Benefit of the Doubt” that their RAPE VICTIMS are told to cover up?
          Queers suing bakeries or even farms because they don’t like the perversion? THAT sounds like being babies rather than fight things out like adults!
          Or SJWs bitching about Identity Politics IN THE FICTIONAL UNIVERSE OF WARHAMMER 40,000?!

          Seriously, how much does it have to get before it’s too much even for you?

          I like how you put rights of Blacks and savages right next to rights of the disabled. Are you admitting that being nonwhite is a disability?
          You are aware that ACTUALLY disabled people get coddled because they CAN’T do it, nonwhites claim they can, but demand a cheat like Affirmative Action.

          If Blacks or other savages want absolution for their near-constant failure of self-control, they should have to give up some Level of self-determination.
          I can only not blame them if it’s not their choice, right?

          Give them a demi-legal status like that of children or retards…BUT they can never again bitch about being our equals. Does that sound fair to you?

    • Tony Swagger

      Funny part is he rates himself so high when he just mashes up usual pathetic right wing and age old cyclic crap thats all over the internet and give it in a garbled state so that nobody has anyidea what he’s trying to convey but think of him as some kind of a intellectual when he;s nothing but a Pseudo intellectual.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s