“Latin America Has to Fight and Win!” by Andre Vitchek

If you want to know what is going on in Latin America right now, this is all you have to read. What’s funny is that I have been telling the truth about Latin America for some time now, and I still have commenters that come here and recite the same old lies about the Left regimes in Latin America.

For instance, our media lies and tells you that all of those shortages in Venezuela are due to the inept socialist system they have. But guess what? The economy is nearly 100% capitalist! The capitalists run the show in Venezuela. They provide nearly all of the products that you see in the stores.

Honestly, in a free market economy, you should never have shortages of any legal product. Think about it – it goes against the logical of laissez-faire free market theory. If there is more demand for a product than supply, sure prices go up, but also the capitalists frantically try to buy more of the product to fulfill the extreme need.

There’s no way you can possibly have a product shortage in a capitalist economy. Can you tell me how you can possibly have a product shortage of a highly in demand product with a plentiful wholesale supply in a capitalist economy? If you can, I am all ears. Also the ghosts of Adam Smith and David Ricardo would like to have a word with you.

So that is a question I am throwing up to the Latin American Left haters on this board: Please explain to me how you can possibly have a shortage of a highly in demand with a huge supply available outside the local economy product in a capitalist society. I want to hear this. I am all ears.

Latin America Has to Fight and Win!

by Andre Vitchek

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For now, Argentina is lost and Venezuela is deeply wounded, divided and frustrated. Virtually everywhere in socialist Latin America, well-orchestrated and angry protests are taking place, accusing our left-wing governments of mismanagement and corruption.

What was gained during those years of hard work and sacrifices, is suddenly evaporating in front of our eyes. And there seems to be no way to stop the trend in the foreseeable future. Whatever magnificent work our governments have done have been smeared. Western propaganda and its local serfs belittle the achievements of our people. In several countries, revolutionary zeal has almost entirely vanished.

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It is clear, even with an unarmed eye that great progress had been made. Those of us who knew Ecuador two decades ago, (then a depressing country, humiliated and torn by disparities and racism), are now impressed by its wonderful social services, free culture and modern infrastructure.

Indigenous people of Bolivia are proudly in possession of their own land.

Venezuela has been inspiring the entire Latin America and the world by its internationalism and determined struggle against Western imperialism.

Chile, step by small step, has been dismantling the grotesque legacy of Pinochet’s dictatorship, moving firmly towards socialism.

There are hundreds of great and inspiring examples, all over the continent.

In less than two decades, Latin America converted itself from one of the most depressing parts of the world, to the most progressive one.

A few years ago, it really seemed that the Empire had finally lost. There was no way that South Americans would want to go back to the days of darkness. The achievements of socialism were too obvious, too marvelous. Who would want to go back to the gloomy nihilism, depressing feudal structures and the fascist client-state arrangements?

Then the Empire re-grouped. It gathered its local lieutenants, its lackeys, and began striking back with deadly force.

All the means of imperialist propaganda were applied. The goal was to convince people that what they see is not actually real. Another objective was to subvert, to torpedo most of the achievements.

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We lost elections? What nonsense!

It was clean economic and political terror unleashed against us, and it was the most vicious propaganda, which began forcing out the left wing governments of Latin America from power!

The world was watching, still demanding more Western-style “democracy”, more concessions. The West administered a “Fifth Column” that damaged Latin American revolutions, after infiltrating both media and brains in Caracas, Buenos Aires, even Quito. It consisted especially of the liberals and those so-called ‘progressive forces’; the same people who tried to bury the Cuban revolution after the Soviet Union had been destroyed by Western imperialism. The same people actually who were cheering the demolition of the Soviet Union itself.

They kept pushing for anarchism and for some formulae of “participatory economy”, in fact for their own concepts, for Western, white concepts, for something that most of Latin American people who fought and won their revolutions never asked for!

Jealous and petty, they hate the true powerhouses of resistance against Western imperialism: Russia, China, Iran or South Africa and in fact, even Latin America itself.

Latin American people have always been intuitively longing for big, strong governments, like those in Cuba and those that lately emerged in Venezuela, Bolivia and Ecuador. And their natural allies should have been those countries from other, non-Western parts of the world, with powerful people-oriented leadership, not some European and North American individuals representing grotesque and defunct movements and “intellectual” concepts.

In several countries, Latin America lost its way and again got derailed by Western demagoguery. Suddenly there was almost nothing left here of Chinese or Russian or Vietnamese ideas, nothing of internationalism, only Western soft liberal egotists and countless irrelevant marginal groups.

History was forgotten. It was simple, decisive and powerful action by China that single-handedly saved Cuba, when the island-nation was hit by the Gorbachev and Yeltsin disasters. I wrote about it a lot, and Fidel quoted me, agreeing in his “Reflections”.

It was the Soviet Union that stood in solidarity with almost all revolutionary movements of Latin America throughout the 20thcentury. And it was Russia that was backing Chávez during the countless Western attempts to overthrow his government.

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Playing with anarchism, liberalism and Euro-socialist concepts brought several Latin American revolutions to the brink of absolute calamity.

South America is at the frontline. It is under attack. There is no time for the flowery theories.

I know Latin American revolutionaries. I have met many, from Eduardo Galeano to several Cuban and Sandinista leaders.

I also met many of the South American ‘elites’.

One day, not long after Evo Morales came to power in Bolivia, I spoke to a man, a member of one of the ‘leading’ families, which has in its ranks Senators, owners of mass media outlets, as well as captains of local industry.

“We will get rid of Morales”, he told me, openly. “Because he is a dirty Indian, and because we will not tolerate lefties in this part of the world.”

He was not hiding his plans – he was extremely confident.

We don’t care how much money we have to spend; we have plenty of money. And we have plenty of time. We will use our media and we will create food and consumer goods deficits. Once there is nothing to eat, once there are food lines in all the major cities, as well as great insecurity and violence, people will vote him out of power.

It was clearly the concept used by the Chilean fascist economic and political right wing thugs, before the 1973 US-backed coup against President Salvador Allende. “Uncertainty, shortages”, and if everything failed – then a brutal military coup.

In Bolivia the “elites” tried and tried, but they were not successful, because there was great solidarity with the government of Evo Morales, coming from socialist countries like Brazil and Venezuela.

When the Right tried to break the country to pieces, pushing for the independence of the richest, “white” province of Santa Cruz, Brazilian President Lula declared that he was going to send the mightiest army in the South American continent and “defend the integrity of the neighboring country”.

It is beasts, and actually extremely powerful beasts, who are heading the “opposition” in South America.

And to be frank, we can hardly speak about an “opposition”. These are oligarchs, landowners, Christian (many from the Opus Dei) demagogues and military leaders. In many ways they are still the true rulers of the continent.

Nothing except brute force can stop them. They have unlimited financial resources, they have a propaganda machine at their disposal, and they can always count on the Empire to back them up. In fact it is the Empire that is encouraging, training and sustaining them.

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“Violations of democracy and human rights!” the “opposition” yells, whenever our governments decide to hit back. It is not that we are lately hitting back really hard, but any retaliation is packaged as “brutal”.

What do we in fact do? We arrest just a few of the most outrageous terrorists – those who are openly trying to overthrow or destabilize the state.

But when they, the ‘elites’ and their armies, came to power, they cut open people’s stomachs, and threw them from helicopters straight into the sea.

Their death squads violate children in front of their parents. Female prisoners are raped by specially trained German shepherds dogs, and tubes with starved rats are inserted into their vaginas.

Entire movements and parties are liquidated by fascist South American battalions of death (some of them trained in the United States), but we must use some nice and clean tactics and “democratic means” to prevent them from grabbing power again?

The white, racist, colonialist Christian implants from Europe have been forming so-called South American ‘elites’. They are actually some of the cruelest human beings on Earth. Thanks to them, before our latest wave of Revolutions, Latin America suffered from the greatest disparities on earth.

Tens of millions of its people were murdered. It was racially divided. It was plundered. Its veins were, and to a great extent still are, open – to borrow from the terminology of the great storyteller Eduardo Galeano.

My friend Noam Chomsky wrote about it extensively. I wrote about it in several chapters of my two latest books: “Exposing Lies Of The Empire and Fighting Against Western Imperialism. Others have as well.

How can people still listen to those mass murderers, with a straight face?

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One thing cannot be disputed: only a big and powerful government and its army could now defend its people. Latin American revolutionary leaders were given a mandate by the people, and they have no right to back up, to betray.

Indecisiveness could prove lethal.

Referendum after referendum, people expressed their support for the revolutionary Proceso, in Venezuela and elsewhere. Year after year the fascist “opposition” has been showing spite for the voices of the people, the same spite it has demonstrated for centuries.

Sabotage after sabotage was administered, one treasonous act after another committed. As was promised by the Bolivian ‘elites’, the Venezuelan capitalist bandits paralyzed their country by shortages. Even rolls of toilet paper became ‘a deficit’. All too familiar… Like in Chile before 1973!

The message is clear: “you want to be able to wipe your ass after shitting, then betray socialism!” Or: “You want to eat? Then down with the legacy of Chávez!”

The will of the people is being humiliated. The elites are spitting straight into the faces of the majority.

Some citizens are now voting for the right, simply because they are exhausted, because they are scared, because they see no solution. They are voting against their own will (as they used to in Nicaragua during the reign of Aleman), because if they vote for their own candidates, they would be made to eat shit, literally.

But solutions are there! They are available.

Instead of listening to some Eurocentric gurus from Slovenia or New England, the Latin American governments should ask for help and lean on such countries as Russia and China, immediately joining alternative financial institutions, forging defense treaties, working on energy and other deals with those who are actually standing up against Western imperialism.

Latin America should never lose its independence. But with proven good friends and true powerful alliances, independence is never lost.

Our leaders should shed their dependency on the Western Left. Mainly because the Western Left does not exist anymore, with some tiny, miniscule exceptions that proves the rule. What remain are a huge army of “liberals”, and then a tremendous multitude of selfish beings defending their own interests and concepts.

They are horrified of those who are truly fighting and winning; therefore they openly hate Russia, China and other non-Western nations. Frankly, they are racist. Such people cannot inspire or impress anybody, and so they are trying their luck at the distant shores, diluting determination and perverting the essence of the South American revolutions.

This is the time to be focused. South America should fight, with all its might. It is not easy, but its treasonous families, those who are destroying the precious lives of tens of millions of human beings, should be identified, arrested and tried. It should be done immediately!

What many of them are actually doing is not “being in opposition”. They are interrupting the democratic process in their own countries, selling their homelands once again to foreign powers and international capital.

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Mass media outlets that are spreading misinformation, lies and foreign propaganda should also be immediately identified. They should be exposed, confronted, and if their goal is to destroy the socialist fatherland, shut down. Again, this is no time for liberal niceties.

Freedom of expression has nothing to do with the freedom of using newspapers and television stations to spread fabrications, fear and uncertainty, or to call for the direct overthrow of democratically elected governments.

And in South America, entire huge international newspaper and television syndicates have been working for years and decades for one single and deadly goal – to smear and liquidate the Left, and to deliver the entire continent back to the racist, fascist foreign imperialist rulers.

It has all gone too far, and it has to stop.

A few months ago, I was riding on the impressive Sao Paulo metro system, together with my Cuban friend.

“It is much better than any public transportation network that I have seen in Europe or in the United States”, I exclaimed.

“But people in Brazil think that it is total shit”, commented my friend, laconically.

“How come?” I was shocked.

“Because they are told so on the television, and because they read it in the newspapers”.

Yes, that’s how it is! Free art, including opera, given to the Brazilian public, is nothing more than crap, if one reads the mainstream Brazilian press. Free medical care, no matter how (still) imperfect it is, is not even worth praising. Free education in so many South American countries …

New transportation networks, free or heavily subsidized books, brilliant parks with brand new libraries that are mushrooming in Chile and Ecuador… Financial support for the poor, the fight to keep children in school, the fight to save the environment, countless programs to protect indigenous communities…

Nothing, nothing, and absolutely nothing is positive in the eyes of the pro-Western South American propagandists!

This has become one huge counter-process, financed from foreign and local sources, aimed at discrediting all those great achievements.

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Corruption!!! That is the new battle cry of the elites and their lackeys. Accusations of corruption are fabricated or inflated against all governments of the left: Dilma Rousseff in Brazil, Rafael Correa of Ecuador, Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela, Evo Morales of Bolivia, even Michelle Bachelet of Chile. Cristina Kirchner’s back was almost broken by constant corruption charges.

But how on earth could anyone take such accusations seriously, if they are coming from those who have been plundering, for over 500 years, their own continent on behalf of Europe and then the United States and multi-national corporations?

Like locusts, the right-wing families have been looting all the natural resources, while forcing people into near slave labor. Under horrendous feudal and fascist rulers, Latin America was converted into the pinnacle of corruption – moral and economic.

Nothing was left intact, and nothing remained pure. In order to survive in such a vile system, people had to bend, twist, and maneuver.

Now these same bandit clans that have been destroying the continent are smearing, pointing fingers at the governments that are, step by step, trying to reverse the trend and serve the people.

The same bastards that were bombing restaurants and hotels in their own countries, planting bombs on passenger airliners, and assassinating thousands of innocent people, are talking about morality.

Are our people, our governments, expected to reach, to achieve total purity in just one or two decades, after the entire continent had been functioning for over 500 years as a bordello of Western colonialism and imperialism?

Are we going to allow ourselves to be on the defensive when facing those who robbed and raped almost everything and everybody in Latin America?

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Yes, the people of Latin America were brutalized for several long centuries. They went through unimaginable suffering. They lost everything. But they never gave up. Since the holocaust performed by Spanish, Portuguese and other European barbaric conquerors, they have been rising, rebelling and fighting for their scarred land.

Pablo Neruda wrote a tremendous poem “Heights of Machu Picchu.” Eduardo Galeano wrote “Open Veins of Latin America”. It is all there, in those two tremendous works.

The fight goes on, to this very moment.

Most of the power is now, finally, in the hands of those who are determined to fight for the interests of their people.

We have no right to be defeated. If we do, hundreds of millions will lose their future and their hope.

Such an opportunity would not come back. It is here, for the first time in 500 years! Millions died to bring it here. If the Revolution is crashed now, it may not return in full force for who knows how many years. In simple terms it means that several more generations would be lost!

We have to counterattack now. What are we waiting for? Of what are we afraid? That the biggest terrorist on Earth – the West – would brand us as undemocratic? That the same West that has, for centuries, overthrown our governments, murdered our leaders as well as simple men, women and children would not give us its stamp of approval? That we would be criticized by those countries, which are still looting, violating, lying and ruining?

Our friends, our allies are not in the West. We all know how lukewarm was the support given to Venezuela, Cuba or Ecuador in Europe and North America by those “progressive forces”, and how hostile was the mainstream. We have to wake up and join forces with those who are now standing proudly and with great determination against Western imperialism and market fundamentalism.

There is no time for experiments. This is the fight for our survival!

As I wrote earlier, in order for the Revolutions to continue, we need big governments, determined cadres, loyal armies and mighty allies. We also need huge Latin American solidarity, true unity and integration. One monolithic South American block in fraternal embrace with other truly independent countries.

This is an extremely serious moment, Comrades! This is damn serious.

Anarchism and the concepts of the factories administered by workers will not save us right now.

Argentina has fallen, but Venezuela is still standing. Each creek, each boulder has now to be defended, be it in Brazil, Uruguay, Ecuador, Bolivia, Chile, Venezuela, Nicaragua or Cuba.

We have to be tough, we have to be alert, and we cannot do it alone!

Venceremos nuevamente, camaradas!

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24 responses to ““Latin America Has to Fight and Win!” by Andre Vitchek

  1. Jason Y

    The white, racist, colonialist Christian implants from Europe have been forming so-called South American ‘elites’. They are actually some of the cruelest human beings on Earth. Thanks to them, before our latest wave of Revolutions, Latin America suffered from the greatest disparities on earth.

    Well, of course. We see this attitude everday in this blog’s comments. It nearly rivals the Roman slave-owner attitude on the show “Spartacus”.

    Our friends, our allies are not in the West. We all know how lukewarm was the support given to Venezuela, Cuba or Ecuador in Europe and North America by those “progressive forces”, and how hostile was the mainstream. We have to wake up and join forces with those who are now standing proudly and with great determination against Western imperialism and market fundamentalism.

    There is no time for experiments. This is the fight for our survival!

    As I said before in other comments, it’s also a fight for so called “white survival” because without third world socialist governments, the populations will continue to expand. However, white nationalists are “shooting themselves in the foot” by supporting reactionary right wing regimes, and thinking that “building walls” will stop hordes of poor non-whites.

    Like locusts, the right-wing families have been looting all the natural resources, while forcing people into near slave labor. Under horrendous feudal and fascist rulers, Latin America was converted into the pinnacle of corruption – moral and economic.

    That’s why they’re heading to the 1st world.

    • Jason Y

      Oh. did I say “and thinking that “building walls” will stop whores of poor non-whites? Some comic relief😆

      Anyhow, yeah such condescending attitude of the middle class and rich is also a problem in the US. People whether rich, or even worse middle class people who think they’ve earned special rights (cause they work for a living), believe they are better than the poor, whom they view as lazy parasites. Note, this attitude isn’t limited to racists, or to certain racial groups. In fact, a new elite exists, which doesn’t consider race, but uses money as the dividing line.

    • Jason Y

      New transportation networks, free or heavily subsidized books, brilliant parks with brand new libraries that are mushrooming in Chile and Ecuador… Financial support for the poor, the fight to keep children in school, the fight to save the environment, countless programs to protect indigenous communities…

      Nothing, nothing, and absolutely nothing is positive in the eyes of the pro-Western South American propagandists!

      Wasn’t that the same stuff thrown against Obamacare?

  2. BlogR Ikonoklast

    “Playing with anarchism, liberalism and Euro-socialist concepts brought several Latin American revolutions to the brink of absolute calamity.”

    The same concepts are bringing Europe as well to the brink of absolute calamity, events are unfolding before our eyes.
    I don’t know if old-fashion hard-line socialism is the answer, but I would take it as well as conservatism over western European neomarxism.

  3. Santoculto

    It’s a great text in extension but the last words just summarizes all this text.

    Foro de Sao Paulo

    Latin American elites are markedly divided between very stupid and very nasty. They are not so different than other elites around the world, one of the most important differentials is who they are des-governing. The most cruel elites in the world in direct impact are the African elites, specially the dictators.

    Political spectrum in Brazil is identical than in other first world nations just with little differences.

    Leftoidism is a malignant schizophrenia that use some extremely obvious moral principles to convince the sheeple. Most of well intentioned extremely naive/intellectual lazy leftoid type are exactly as blind snake. They think they are doing good things when in true they are being used by psychopaths to create a global slavedom.

    I’m a real socialist

    No have party,
    No have ideology,
    My north is just: Evolution, truth and justice,

    Useful idiots are essentially those who simply don’t know who they are, the first principle of human intelligence is to know who you are looking to the mirror. Starting by this defect they will have greater vulnerability to internalize factoids or predominantly to complete wrong information’s, because the being start their understanding of the world/reality by herself. Start.

    Indeed the leftist criticism against social historical injustices like slavery is completely right in their surface level. But when start become profound in their argumentation and preludes to actions, leftism criticism lost completely their right points.

    Latin America don’t need oligarquic collectivist governments. Anyone deserve this plague.

    In primitive cave man mindset only there two options: X or Y. Options which are explicit or existent. Just following the established narrative like a good sheeple. Not so high brow Lindsay!!

    “Pt” des government have lucky to follow the good wave of global economy during the 00′. What wisely the first comment in this text said, this crap oligarquic just use big propaganda, nasty, nonsense, idiotic, a insult to the intelligence, to convince stupid people😉 that they are pro social justice. Oligarquic collectivists since soviet occupation just equalize middle with lower classes. The most important thing to really create equality is abolish ELITES.

    ….

    They NEVER abolish elites, just change who will belong to the elite, themselves lol lol lol

    It’s so explicit every this contradictions!!!

    Lula is now a rich man that put your sons in their business.

    Socialist?????????

    Leftoidism is not just like a cultural schizophrenia but also a kind of brain injury. Ok you think that everyone ( not everyone..) deserve a chance, be against unfair inequality, against bad treatment against innocent people, but believe that a shit man like this rat of caatinga is a socialist?????? Stalin?????? Fidel?????

    Please man, stop to be dumb!!!

    What happen today with leftoids is exactly what had happened with christiantoids since end of roman empire.

    Give the power to the stupid (they are so overwhelming common), s(he) will believe that official/fixed narrative IS not just the “reality” but all of the reality and oppression will start.

    I no have patience to lies and cultural schizophrenia.

    You to do a complete des service distorting the sacred truth.

    A useful idiot Lindsay

    • Jason Y

      I think everyone deserves a chance, but some people are so down the road of evil they can’t be helped. However, rightoids would give nobody a chance.

      Yeah santo-culto has shown himself in so many comments to be no different than the typical ancient Roman elite. Why would anyone think anything he says would be progressive, or so called “race realist progressive”?

      • Jason Y

        Latin American elites are markedly divided between very stupid and very nasty. They are not so different than other elites around the world, one of the most important differentials is who they are des-governing. The most cruel elites in the world in direct impact are the African elites, specially the dictators.

        Next quote

        What happen today with leftoids is exactly what had happened with christiantoids since end of roman empire.

        Give the power to the stupid (they are so overwhelming common), s(he) will believe that official/fixed narrative IS not just the “reality” but all of the reality and oppression will start.

        Santo-culto has no answer for Latin America’s problems. His racism simply mirrors the elite he says he hates. Maybe santo-culto has some weird Jewish conpiracy thing which explains why capitalism in Brazil only leads to elitism. Ok, in a logical way of speaking, maybe explain how he would make a Brazil better than an elite capitalist one or one that is like Castro’s Cuba.

        Would it be by deporting non-whites? But how would that work in Africa, another place he mentioned? How can you deport blacks from Africa? Bring back colonialism? Yeah, that would work. (sarcasm)

        In places like Brazil, the only real way to implement his ideas is by killing much of the population (in some places the majority), and the same goes for the other Latin American nations. Now, see why this makes no sense.

  4. Santoculto

    The human “story” is a big circus.

  5. Santoculto

    Lind-say,
    At least second half of XX century, just Argentina, Uruguay, Costa Rica and Cuba that had relatively good standard pattern. Why????

    Just every region of Latin America with east Asian and white populations prevalence, a super big intercontinental pattern. In Peru east Asians are part of elite and have greater standard of life than others, racism??

    Internationalism is part of , you know Lindsay, socialist agenda!!!! Conquer the world, remember?? Capitalism already conquer the world since “great discoveries” era.

    This stupid binary thinking is the otherwise of wisdom, no chance.

    Brazil need reduce their population and reduce fertility rate of poor people because is mathematically easy become less poor with few people to sustain than with greater number of kids or dependents.

    Psychopaths should have identified since childhood and at best sterilized and castrated. The philosophy of uber awareness about our essential non-existencial choice should be used as support to give correct dignity for everyone.

    Brazil what I learn in geography of health have a health market like in USA, a continental nation divided by greater health/hospital centers concentrated in big cities. same happen with transport way. Brazil is the only one big continental nation without great transport lines using trains. Create a wise subdivision of essential services like health and give greater importance to preventive health system. Eugenics look as extreme necessity to reduce human AND non human unnecessary suffering. Less diseases, less health/essential problems.

    Justice is for the strong and not for those who really need, strong, middle or weak, whatever who really need.

    Sem terras, people with no land in the countryside, protest against opposition of des government of psychotic left. But they still no have land since first lulla government !!!!!!!!

    I give enormous priority to finish the most despised holocaust made by human beast, Against OTHER animals and specially the domesticated who are created to be killed to become a food.

    If I’m a complete non right or left in my point of views/facts appear obvious that I will not engage nor in complete capitalism neither in complete socialism/communism.

    • Santoculto

      Correcting

      In Brazil justice work for the strong.

      Environment is being destroyed in Brazil and the des government of these beasts simply no have any effort to really FINISH this destruction and not just “reduce”. Mediocre attitudes never are enough.

      The legacy of “right wing” des governments were minimally good in all spheres of EXISTENCE.

      To stop to be a caveman, just reflect more their thoughts about it. Is not your reason but your instinct which is pushing you.

      Reason is perfection in all positive spheres.

    • Jason Y

      Just every region of Latin America with east Asian and white populations prevalence, a super big intercontinental pattern. In Peru east Asians are part of elite and have greater standard of life than others, racism??

      The right wing governments do nothing to help those with genetic disadvantages. However, the whole society pays in the long run cause the place never amounts to anything, you have all kinds of crime, barbed wire for protection from robbers, the whole typical third world existance. Also, 1st world nations pay cause they have to accept the poor fleeing to escape these hellholes.

  6. Tulio

    The truth of the matter is that socialism and capitalism in Latin America will both suck.Productivity and human capital are low(compared to the West), so capitalism will only benefit a few at the top(usually those of European descent) and socialism will fail because there isn’t enough wealth to spread around to begin with so you’ll just end up making everyone equally poor, like Cuba.

    • Tulio

      I don’t pretend to have any answers on this.

    • Jason Y

      But what about if the third world government made a great effort at improving education? Human capital is low cause the people aren’t educated.

    • Johnny

      They both suck because hybrid systems of govt that adapt to the times and situations are what usually function best. The Nordic countries all make a great case for this as they are primarily capitalist with numerous social safety nets and benefits. They also aren’t keen on the rockstar worship we have in that they don’t think it’s a good idea to show off if you’re wealthy whereas here it’s the basis for a reality show. This is particularly true in Denmark. In addition, some societies do promote education which is why people in Singapore prefer to read in their leisure time as opposed to other places where TV is the preferred medium of relaxation.

      Also unions help to siphon away the excess wealth that the super rich ultimately hoard and hand down to their children. This is a grossly inefficient means of keeping society moving forward. Generally, you want tax breaks for people who invest in some way that isn’t offshore and wild market speculation.

      In the case of Latin America, they don’t need wealth per se, but rather economic activity. Meaning they can buy and sell to each other and expensive imports will remain something for the rich in this regard. Foreign capital is a double-edged sword in that it’s great when it comes in and leads to jobs, but it’s bad when it is suddenly pulled due to panic (as with Argentina some years back that led to their economic crisis).

      Americans, who are the biggest champions of neoliberalism, have been so brainwashed by the years of Cold War propaganda that there’s no nuance in debate. Anything govt is bad and anything corporate is good (at least according to Reagan and his acolytes). Democracy, transparency and regulation are all required to make an economy that functions and has a low corruption index. Latin America is struggling because outside entities simply don’t like them experimenting for a host of reasons (not the least of which fear of success).

      I guess I differ from some people in that I’m curious as to what different forms of governance can do. I mean unlike most of the GOP, I’m interested to see if their ideas have any merit, but would like them to concede when something like tax breaks for the rich don’t lead to better economic outcomes. Thus, the problem is orthodoxy rather than some grand system that works better than all others. Balance an adaptation are what will work in a progressive sense and how to explain the rise of China in this instance? Clearly, a “communist” country that has turned itself into one giant corporation.

      • Jason Y

        Latin America could gradually develop a middle class with educational investment from a socialist regime. However, the first world wants to keep feudalism going in the third world, while hypocritically, basking in a fun filled “welfare state” for themselves.

        Why should Swedes enjoy the benefits of “free everything” while people in Colombia have to go without? Of course, note the birthrate in Sweden is low (due to a modern lifestyle) while Colombia’s feudal world naturally produces boat-loads of children.

        • Johnny

          Well many countries do have a middle class and politically active average people. Some countries have a pretty good situation though despite popular opinion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_American_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

          It’s all relative. If you’re comparing Chile to Finland, then yeah they aren’t really comparable. However, many places are very livable in the region.

          Columbia’s birthrate is dropping fast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia#Demographics

          They’ve had problems with the drug wars that we’ve instigated and that’s been a huge problem. I do agree that the welfare state balanced with consumer oriented capitalism with regulations and so on works well and most of the countries in the region do just that. It’s all incomplete because some places have had to deal with financial crisis due to the poorly implemented neoliberal policies. I’m looking at the positives here and IF they can not be interfered with (tall order at times given our history), we might see a more prosperous Latin America. In fact I’d say that’s already happening. We just can’t expect them to be like North America overnight is all.

  7. Erich

    Great text, Robert!
    Thanks for sharing. I’m a Brazilian leftist and pretty much appreciate your support.

  8. Jason Y

    I doubt if the far left can coexist with the far right. There was a reason Castro never allowed democracy. It would have only lead to an overthrow of his regime.

    On the flip side, governments like ep-gah would desire also cannot allow democracy due to the so called “Communist threat”.

    Looking at it one way, if your nation is taken over by the enemy (either political, racial etc..), it’s a good idea to leave. Whoever that is the majority will make the rules. We saw this in Cuba, South Africa, Hitler’s Germany etc..

    • EPGAH

      We can only allow democracy until we get overrun by enemies. Demographics=Destiny. Look at the rape “epidemic” in Sweden.
      Communism cannot allow Democracy.
      Democracy cannot allow terrorists in, or once they become the majority, they will vote in a new age of suffering for the people.
      Egypt suffered this the most recently.
      Before them, South Africa and Rhodesia could be said to have let in terrorists and they “voted” themselves into power–after blowing up the opposition!

      As to the majority, that’s only true if the majority isn’t white. If they’re white, they can be bullied with cries of “racism” into passing laws QUITE hostile to their own present and future well-being, from “economic survival” to literal physical safety.

      What’s interesting is all those things Robert talks about sounds like Capitalism fighting back the only way it can against those who want to destroy it.
      Now how do you explain Communist violence in America?
      http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/the-roots-of-black-lives-matter-unveiled/#fBM6ZochmcOWwYZi.99

      Yes, Black Lies Matter is an umbrella organization with quasi-Communist rhetoric, that believes whites must be exterminated.
      What’s interesting is they don’t mean “white” like you or I would mean “white”. Anyone of any race, creed, nationality, color, sex, or sexual preference who embraces capitalism, free markets, limited government and American traditional culture and values. By definition, these beliefs are irredeemably evil and anyone who aligns with them is “white” in spirit and thus equally guilty of “white crimes.”

      That’s quite a wide genocidal swath Black Lies Matter and their cohorts want to cut…

      Now for the second surprise, look at their donor list.
      Ben&Jerry?
      Ford?
      Kellogg’s? (So much for healthy eating!)

      • jorge

        Clearly you are a fanatic white nationalist. There was nothing more terrorist in South Africa than appartheid, but you never will recognize this and will be lying, distorting and victimizing yourself on internet for the rest of your life like your kind of people.

  9. Actually Pretty Funny

    For the average person in the street, equality means the right to piss in the street or ignore traffic lights. That’s why Communism has turned Vietnam, once the dream goal of Singapore (Lee Kuan Yew’s words), to a country in much trouble.

    I find guys like Lindsay actually pretty funny, because with his super high IQ as he has said, he would have been an outcast in Socialism, like me. Good luck explaining to the guys with 80 IQ out there “socialism equality” doesn’t mean you don’t have the right to be different than them. They would drag you down to the same level as them, intellectually and legally. Or some other super brilliant assholes would maneuvre the Masses, or part of it, or some of it, against you.

    Pol Pot did that, he interpreted Communism in his own way, and killed everyone else who didn’t fit his interpretation of Communism. So how did Pol Pot interpret Communism? Very simple: if you didn’t produce anything, you were a leech. He interpreted it the same way as the Vietcong. Take Lindsay as an example, I haven’t see him producing any grains of staple food, or earthenware, or machinery tools. He is a “leech” for the IQ 80’s folks. In Cambodia he’d have been killed or starved to death, in Vietnam he’d have been an outcast and quite hungry.

    “Linguistics? What is that thing? Is that edible?”- The IQ 80 guy’d ask. The IQ 80 guy wouldn’t hesitate to plunge a knife into your lung. Socialism is so precious to him. No one would complain because they are below highbrow. Every intellectual Communist (or their relatives) I know has quit the country for fucking America.

    Don’t talk about the Swedes to me. They have had several hundreds of years accumulating wealth, and now like that dumb playboy just want to throw some of it around.

  10. Ultra Cool

    I think the right in most of Latin America (and maybe most of the world) is more to the left than the American left, I’m not sure how the US got so far-right and I don’t know if I should find it funny, pitiful or terrifying.

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