Primitive People Have Some of the Most Complicated Languages of Them All

On A Look at the Australian Aborigine Languages, Jason writes:

Perhaps they don’t have such a low IQ if their language is most difficult.

The people with the lowest IQ’s of all have some of the maddeningly complex languages out there.

Pygmies along with the Khoisan are said to have the lowest IQ’s on Earth, somewhere in the 50’s. The original Pygmy languages are gone, but we can see traces of the original languages in the Bantu languages that they now speak. The Bantu languages supplanted their original tongues, whatever those were.

Nevertheless, Bantu languages themselves are quite difficult. Many are tonal, and they feature such tonal bizarreness as tone terracing and terraced tones. They distinguish such features mark such things as + or – Advanced Tongue Root (ATR), which is quite strange among the world’s languages, and they often have a bafflingly long list of genders for noun classes. It is not easy for Westerners to learn Bantu languages and few bother or even try.

The Khoisan are said to have the lowest IQ’s on Earth, estimated in the 50’s. Most of them never go to school, and when they do, they tend to flounder and drop out. The Kenyan government has given up on trying to educate the Hadza. They do not to appear to be genetically or culturally adapted to the modern world.

However, their languages are insanely complex, consisting among other things of bizarre click sounds that no other languages on Earth have. They are almost impossible for non-natives to learn. Nelson Mandela said that he spoke one of those click languages most of his life and he never did learn to make those click sounds correctly.

The Australians have the next lowest at 62 IQ. They do very poorly in schools when they go to school at all, and they are rife with all sorts of pathologies. In short, they are simply not adapted genetically or culturally to the modern world.

Australian languages are wildly complex and in fact are so strange that they have been the source of many very controversial debates in Linguistics, especially the configurationality debate where Chomsky claimed all languages were configurational, yet the Australian language Warlpiri was said to violate this so-called linguistic universal. The configurational supporters claim dubiously that Warlpiri is actually configurational. But even if it is, it would still be crazily complex.

These languages are very difficult but not impossible to learn. One of the greatest polyglot linguists of all time,. Ken Hale, prided himself on his fluency in Warlpiri. Nevertheless, many non-aboriginal Australians are trying to learn some Aboriginal languages as part of an Australian cultural revival, and they are finding it quite hard going.

The Papuans have the next lowest at 64 IQ. However, one wonders just how stupid they actually are. Jared Diamond spent a lot of time with Papuans, and he said that they did not seem stupid at all to him.

Papuan languages are also crazy complicated, and few if any outsiders even bother to learn them.

Papuans are frankly failing at adopting to the modern world. The large city Port Moresby is full of Papuans who have completely failed the test of modernity. It has one of the highest violence rates on Earth, and it is so dangerous that I would not recommend that anyone go there. The entire city is locked in a wild gang war, and the gangs seem to have actual armies and modern weapons. Furthermore there is unbelievable amount of common crime such as robbery, rape and homicide. Clearly Papuans are not cut out genetically or culturally for modern life.

As you can see, some of the primitive people seem to have some of the most insanely complex languages on Earth. Linguistics has gotten so insane with PC that you cannot say that anymore. In fact, lunatic linguists insist that no language is more inherently complex or harder to learn than any other language.

One of my professors told me that primitive peoples are often bored and being highly intelligent humans, they look around for mind games to relieve their boredom. Many of them enjoy their complicated languages, and a favorite pastime especially of the men is to spend their time playing language games utilizing the complexity of their language.

Moronic linguists have falsely stated that I am saying that primitive people are bored so they make their languages more complex for something to do. But I never said that. Maybe they do, maybe they don’t. We don’t know.

However, certainly many of these languages are already crazy complex, and there does not seem to be a cultural trend to reduce the complexity of and simplify their language, as they seem to enjoy their complicated languages. And primitive peoples seem to defy that trend as their languages do not tend to simplify over time.

I believe that there is a trend that as a society and civilization develops, languages tend to simplify. This definitely seems to be true in our modern industrialized era. Time is money after all, and modern languages need to get their message across as quickly as possible in a way that is as easy to understand as possible. That is, unless you are an attorney for whom complex language is a form of information warfare against the opposing team of lawyers and the public in general.

Supposedly consensus among modern linguist idiots is that this is not true either and that languages do not get simpler as speakers modernize.

However, it is my opinion that linguistic consensus is sheer idiocy on many different levels.

The explanation for why primitive people often have very complex languages is that human beings are naturally highly intelligent, even those with IQ’s from 52-64. All humans seem to be born with a natural tendency to learn even the most complex languages and this ability is a base human feature that is independent of IQ. Further, primitive languages have no need to simplify to deal with the modern world and furthermore, they seem to enjoy their complex tongues as some sort of an intellectual exercise in what is often an intellectually impoverished life in the wilds.

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11 responses to “Primitive People Have Some of the Most Complicated Languages of Them All

  1. “I believe that there is a trend that as a society and civilization develops, languages tend to simplify. This definitely seems to be true in our modern industrialized era. Time is money after all, and modern languages need to get their message across as quickly as possible in a way that is as easy to understand as possible. That is, unless you are an attorney for whom complex language is a form of information warfare against the opposing team of lawyers and the public in general.”

    While I’m rather weak with linguistics aside from some latin here and there I agree.

    For example when reading “A Tale of Two Cities” much of my class didn’t like the book. Despite me trying to appreciate it as a classic, I had some frustrating parts as well with the older English of the dialogue.

    Fore example, there was a part of the dialogue where a character uses a double negative as a positive. Technically, it used correctly, but it’s use was unnecessary and some of my friends generally agreed that they only said it in that way to sound “complex” or clever,

    Essentially, while I care for aspects of speech such as specific vocabulary and elaborating ideas, when communicating I strongly emphasize getting the message across with clarity and NOT sacrificing that for embellishment.

    Still, those are my standards for modern society. May the primitive populations speak how they see fit, whether through clicks, various noun classes, etc.

    • EPGAH

      That’s true, especially in programming. Back when I was a programmer, one of the main challenges was creating new compression routines. (And trying to make them proprietary and get money for them, but back then that was considered a good thing. Apple’s made a mint off it!)

      The problem was not then and arguably never has been compression–it was keeping it intelligible on the recipient end!

  2. Jason Y

    The search for patterns in music, language, math etc.. is a sure way to end boredom. Yeah, I’m sure a lot of people are bored, if they’re just watching TV and movies all day. Some people, when they’re not working, that’s all they do.

  3. Jason Y

    Prison would be a place where boredom is a daily challenge. It is the real enemy and inmates are searching for things to occupy thier mind.

  4. Santoculto

    Difficulty in this case is completely subjective. To do the most difficult language don’t look objectively smart or in other words truly smart because one of the most important goals of language IS the efficient communication and not their difficulty ( comparatively speaking) level.

  5. Jason Y

    Some of the most complicated crap Iv’e ever seen would be a university math textbook. Are there people who can actually read it, like somebody would read the sports page?

  6. Rus

    English is one of the most difficult and complicated languages of the world. English is one of the weirdest, most fucked up, messed up languages of the world.

    Let’s begin with its spelling. English spelling is THE weirdest and most fucked up spelling on Earth. Of all languages that use some sort of alphabet only Tibetan and Thai may be compared to English. Even Jews and Arabs who do not write vowels, at least write their consonants in a straightforward way: one consonant – one letter. But in English its 24 consonants are spelled in 100 ways.

    2nd. English phonetics may be not one of the most difficult, but obviously it is one of the ugliest and illogical. Its oddities are nothing compared to the elegance of Italian, Spanish and even French (which phonetics is in fact very logical and elegant). Practically every language of Europe has more elegant and logical phonetics than English.

    3rd. English may be “simple” in the way that it has reduced morphology, but on the contrary this reduction messes everything up. In Chinese everything is about syntax, there is no morphology. One does not need to worry about morphology in Chinese. But in English everything is about syntax, but one need always bear in mind morphological “leftovers” which only disturb. Why on earth should one say “I, you, we, they go”, but “he/she/it goes”? Why on earth should one use this “-s” in verbs if everything in verbal morphology is simplified? Why on earth are there still more than 200 irregular verbs, while thousands of verbs do their forms regularly (if this word can be applied to English at all) with “-ed” and “-ing”? Why on earth are the ending “-ed” pronounced in three different ways? And so on and so on. The myriads of such small peculiarities of English always blow up everybody’s brain. And English syntax is no less difficult thing to learn and understand.

    4th. English vocabulary is as messed up as everything in English. It is a strangest and ugliest mixture of several very different languages with different word structure. As a result, any English text always looks like a mishmash of words which do not match each other. In German, for example, everything in any text in harmony, every word seems to be in its right place, even a few Greek, Latin, French loanwords in German look quite naturalized and in their right place.

    I would not say for sure if native English speakers around the globe are primitive or not, but they must be certainly very bored if they use such a language!

    • I think the issue with English isn’t in the same as primitive languages are, for I believe it has to do with it evolution involving being compounded with different language influence and going through phases of what many call “degeneration” such as using “incorrect” grammar or slang.

      However, that is just based on my limited understanding of the language history, Robert would be the guy who could give you an accurate answer.

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