John Lennon and Yoko Ono – Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

I have a lot of favorite Christmas songs, and this is definitely one of them.

It came on the radio the other day. They played a couple of lines, and I thought, “Damn! What is that song? That’s one of my favorite Christmas songs of all time, and I don’t even know the name of it or who did it!” Then they played it again, and I knew what it was all over again.

But seriously, this truly is a great song. Check out those cool  backup singers doing the chorus in the background. You know who that is? It’s the Harlem Community Choir. A bunch of Black kids!

So, this is Christmas
And what have you done?
Another year over
And a new one just begun

And so this is Christmas
I hope you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young

A very merry Christmas
And a happy New Year
Lets hope it’s a good one
Without any fear

And so this is Christmas
For weak and for strong
For rich and the poor ones
The road is so long

And so happy Christmas
For black and for white
For yellow and red ones
Let’s stop all the fight

A very merry Christmas
And a happy New Year
Let’s hope it’s a good one
Without any fear

And so this is Christmas
And what have we done
Another year over
And a new one just begun

And so happy Christmas
We hope you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young

A very merry Christmas
And a happy New Year
Let’s hope it’s a good one
Without any fear

War is over
If you want it
War is over
Now

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36 responses to “John Lennon and Yoko Ono – Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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  2. EPGAH

    Was this to “celebrate” the surrender of Vietnam to Russia-backed terrorists in exchange for “normalization” of relations with China?

    Isn’t it amazing to “normalize” relations, we have to let people get away with theft and murder?

    • mott69

      Epgah-

      Wow- that’s a take on Nam that I’ve never heard!

      All due respect…That’s totally whacko. Vietnam hated China- the Chinese conquered, oppressed and occupied them for 900 years. They were willing to use Chinese military aid at first, to try to get rid of the colonialist French and the neo-colonialist Americans. Then they stopped taking aid from China, so Russia stepped in.

      Also, Russia and China weren’t getting along back then- why would we “surrender” something to Russia to score points with the Chinese?

      And, “normalize” relations with China? No, they were admitted to the U.N., and Nixon visited, but relations were never very normal until the 90s.

      “Russian-backed terrorists”? No, it was a civil war, and a war of independence from colonial rule. The communists did some very bad stuff (ex: Hue Massacre), yes, but the South’s phony leadership did the same or worse- that’s partly why they lost- the pro-Western regime was never popular with the people.

      • EPGAH

        I heard the above from my Dad, who was one of the soldiers there.
        Operation Linebacker alone won his loyalty, and if we had fought that way all along, Vietnam would never have been overthrown.

        Civil war is from WITHIN. Where did the guns and especially the AA cannons come from? Russia tried to–and some cases succeeded–overthrow countries all around the globe, including arming and training the Black Panther cop-killer terrorists in America. Back then they did NOT scare people into voting for a bad candidate, so they did NOT have the President’s backing!

        • mott69

          Sorry, Epgah. And sorry about your dad being there. Not knowing him, though, I have talked and heard from so many Nam Vets it’s ridiculous. Sometime in the 80s, they all started saying that we “coulda shoulda woulda” won, etc. They are truly unhinged on the subject. I bet your dad’s a great guy, but his being there doesn’t automatically make him a world authority on the war.

          Not taking into account the fact that that overwhelming majority in the North wanted socialism/communism, and that by the end most of those left in the South did. You can’t make poor people like colonial-Western capitalism when it wasn’t benefiting them.

          I had a university class on the V-War. Four months, ten books, from all different points of view. Conclusion: biggest mistake we ever made (until Iraq 2).

          Yeah we coulda won- we coulda just killed ALL the socialists- most of the pop- millions of civilians. And then resettled the place with pro-Western Vietnamese.

          The Russians backed the Black Panthers? Really? The blacks here had no reason to be pissed- the Russians had to arm them?

          The Vietnamese wanted to overthrow the colonialist-capitalists, but need guns from somewhere. OK. But that doesn’t equate to making them start a revolution. The Vietnamese got rid of the Russians after they were no longer useful, too. Some Russian conquest.

          All historians have now rejected the Domino Theory as being at play here. Yeah, we thought it so at the time. But it wasn’t- it was local-grown.

      • EPGAH

        Who made it Russia’s OR China’s business? America had good reasons to want to stop Communism, especially with the disruption of trade routes/agreements.

        So if you say something “clever” like “America should mind its own business”–that’s what we WERE doing, but part of minding it is defending it!

        • Jason Y

          Ep-gah, though I often want to disagree with him, my have a point. Sometimes liberals are naive in their views of Communist regimes.

          Ultimately, the North sucked, in fact, a lot of Vietnamese were trying to escape when it failed but they couldn’t get over the barbed wire of the US embassy, or in other cases they tried to use a boat to escape.

          Of course, the North did get a lot of poor peasants in the south to fight for them, mainly caused they exploited the greed of the landowning classes. That’s something right wingers like ep-gah don’t understand. As long as the landowners stick to their greed, more massive support exists for the Communists.

        • Jason Y

          Seems like illegal immigraton and a lot of communist rebellions are about land ownership. Whether it had been Viet Cong in South Vietnam or Amerindians in Chiapis (in Mexico), it’s all about the land. Of course, if the revolution fails, as it had in Mexico, then the losers simply become another source of illegal immigration to the US.

        • Jason Y

          Even now the US is promoting A_hole free trade in South Korea and other nations, hence giving the population more incentive to “feel sorry for North Korea” and support socialist anti-American candidates.

          Could it be that capitalism always favors feudal land ownership or something equally oppressive like free trade? No wonder people want an alternative, even though the alternative might be hell-holes like North Vietnam or North Korea.

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          Who made it Russia’s OR China’s business? America had good reasons to want to stop Communism, especially with the disruption of trade routes/agreements.

          So if you say something “clever

          But what about when those agreements, NAFTA being one, are oppressive to the people, reducing people to working in sweatshops and forcing them to become serfs?

          Some of these agreements, NAFTA being one, not only hurt third world people, but also encourage illegal immigration, and even steal jobs in the first world.

        • EPGAH

          What you call “Land Reform” is people stealing from themselves and giving to those who don’t earn.

          How many homeless people do you routinely let into your house?
          How many do you let campout in your backyard? If the answer is “One” or “None”, why would you expect others to?

        • EPGAH

          As to the sweatshops, noone is FORCING them to, except their own inability to keep it in their pants. Their alternatives are prostitution, thuggery, or working in a factory.

          Factory is the only even remotely honorable choice, right?
          Do you work for a local company, or one of these multinational conglomerates, who pay a few dollars more? (Keep in mind, a “few dollars more” is a FORTUNE!–to them!)
          This is assuming they don’t prefer the “easy money” of crime. Except with the short lifespan of most criminals, that’s gambling, isn’t it?

          As to serfs, how? They can own land, noone stopping them–except each other. Too many people, not enough land, a tiny lot goes for $900,000!
          http://www.real-estate-vietnam.com/land-for-sale-vietnam_21.html
          I don’t want you to think I’m making these numbers up, so click the blue part and see for yourself!

        • EPGAH

          South Korea is only successful because of free trade.
          SAMSUNG
          Hyundai
          Daewoo
          You think those would happen if they didn’t have a trading corridor with us?

          I don’t know why you keep talking like the Civilized World is an endemic criminal enterprise, when actually crime rates and other behavior prove the opposite is true?

        • There is no problem with landless peasants or feudal relations in the countryside in Vietnam. The North Vietnamese broke up the big estates early on, killing 10,000 large landowners. The Viet Cong was already doing land reform in the countryside at the point of a gun which I think was pretty cool, but when the North took over the South, a large land reform was done and all of the large estates were liquidated. Not sure what happened to the feudal landowners. Most of them probably took off in boats for the US.

      • Jason Y

        “Russian-backed terrorists”? No, it was a civil war, and a war of independence from colonial rule. The communists did some very bad stuff (ex: Hue Massacre), yes, but the South’s phony leadership did the same or worse- that’s partly why they lost- the pro-Western regime was never popular with the people.

        The south could have easily turned it from being a “colonial war” by simply backing land reform. As far as Russian guns backing it, what could the US do about it? They weren’t willing to bomb Russia for fear of nuclear war. The best solution would have been to just back land reform and build a wall between the two nations.

        • EPGAH

          That’s what I meant when I said Russia was overthrowing a lot of our partners around the world–and holding the world hostage using nuke tech stolen from us. So we had to let them get away with overthrowing our allies or they would nuke us for trying to uphold international law.

          You’re actually in favor of this?

          A lot of people are against Putin NOW because of what past Russian leaders pulled. Hard to believe the new Boss is different than the old Boss, or something on that order.
          Putin hasn’t come out and said “Hey, I’m not the same Russia that overthrew your allies in the past!”, but his actions are leading that way.

        • mott69

          Land reform would have been a great idea. But, I don’t think the South’s dictatorship would’ve done it, ever. Have the U.S. leave and just encourage land reform? That would have lasted only a few minutes before another military coup.

          Build a wall? That’s what the DMZ was supposed to be. Only trouble is, there were a lot of communists in the South. And, they (the communists) wanted America to leave- we were just continuing the French colony project and propping up our puppet regime there.

          And yeah, there wasn’t anything we could do to Russia, or anyone else who wanted to sell them arms. The rule is- if we don’t arm them, someone else will.

  3. mott69

    The background singers? It’s the Harlem Community Choir. 30 black kids.

    • Is it really? You’re serious? That’s not a joke?

      • mott69

        John and Yoko lived in the East Village and recorded that song in their apartment.

        • mott69

          Harlem was nearby. It was Multi-Culti and PC before it’s time!

        • Jason Y

          <quote by mott69

          blockquote>Harlem was nearby. It was Multi-Culti and PC before it’s time!

          There was a neighborhood in Seoul like that. It was called Itaewon. It was an international island in the middle of a pretty much “one ethnic group” city. However, it was near an US army base too, so it had a negative reputation with many Koreans.

          Always a party in Itaewon with all kinds restaurants, shops etc.. and outdoor food. A little New York City.

        • They put the whole Harlem Community Choir in their apartment?

        • mott69

          They recorded the demos in the apartment and then went to a proper studio to re-record it (The Record Plant). The HCC came to the studio.

          But the song still has a “feel” like the demos- like it was recorded in a small room, informally.

      • Jason Y

        That song, no offense, sounds too white bread for a black choir. LOL

  4. Jason Y

    I see a lot of hypocrisy with people going against the war. For instance, why wasn’t anyone protesting Iraq War II as much Vietnam? I’ll give away the punchline: It’s because we got the National Guard to do all dying. There isn’t any draft.

    In other words, young guys were protesting cause they didn’t want to die. Of course, a good argument could be made it was a dumb war, but the same could be made for Iraq, but only Vietnam got massive protests.

  5. Jason Y

    I like John Lennon’s music but it comes across as self righteous and preachy at times. At least Paul McCartney, even though he sang sappy love songs, which were still awesome by the way, wasn’t preachy.

    • mott69

      If your butt was gonna get shipped off forcibly to Nam to get killed for no good reason at the time, you’d appreciate Lennon’s “preachy-ness.” Very few liked that war.

  6. Jason Y

    As with North Korea, North Vietnam seemed to be a backward feudal state. Deep down I don’t think orientals want to live in such a crappy world. They’d rather live in the modern world that being a US ally has to offer.

    Nonetheless, because of national pride and as I said above abuses of free trade and the US support of feudalism, a lot of them can be tricked into thinking Communism is cool and worth dying for. Kind of like how all these idiots like to wear Che Guevara clothing.

    • Jason Y

      As for those like Jane Fonda, who myself, I would forgive for childish fallacy, I would always say, if you think the place is cool, then feel free to move there, even at the cost of your Hollywood career etc..

      • EPGAH

        That’s what I would tell her. And Noam Chomsky should move to Cuba, since he supports it over America. But he won’t, he’s getting too fat off Capitalism to actually move to someplace he doesn’t complain about constantly. And various other celebs who support our enemies over ourselves. How many actually left when Bush came to the White House?

        Did you notice Hanoi Jane’s “apology” didn’t actually APOLOGIZE for a damn thing, she said she had done/said some things which “might have been misinterpreted”?!
        Would someone please explain to me the “right” way to “interpret” posing with an ENEMY AA GUN?!

        • EPGAH and Jason, you are not allowed to say, “America, love it or leave it” on here. You are also not allowed to say, “If it’s so great, why don’t you go live there?” I ban on those kind of comments.

        • mott69

          Hanoi Jane? Really- digging her up again? What Hollywood career- she’s been retired for a long time. We were bombing civilians- not popular at the time. Some Americans weren’t rooting for “our side” because they thought we shouldn’t even be there.

          Of course Fonda should not have posed for the pic. Dumber than dumb. But I believe her story about being manipulated into it. There’s no proof she asked for the pose. Was it treason? No, we were not “at war”- that’s why she and hundreds of other Americans could go there at all. She didn’t give them any info about anything. There was no law against what she did.

  7. Jason Y

    There is no problem with landless peasants or feudal relations in the countryside in Vietnam. The North Vietnamese broke up the big estates early on, killing 10,000 large landowners.

    Ep-gah would have a problem with that statement for sure. Couldn’t they just have forced them to emigrate?

  8. Jason Y

    Iv’e not seen that the Communist solution is better than the capitalist oppression it replaces, in many cases.

  9. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    What you call “Land Reform” is people stealing from themselves and giving to those who don’t earn.

    How many homeless people do you routinely let into your house?
    How many do you let campout in your backyard? If the answer is “One” or “None”, why would you expect others to?

    When did the landlords gain control of the land? A thousand years ago? On the other hand, your typical American bought land recently, at least compared to the Vietnamese landowners. Also, most Americans don’t own vast stretches of land employing thousands of serfs.

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