The Genesis of Black Minority Problems in a Non-Black Society

This is from an old post of mine. I thought about this when I was talking to some of my friends in other countries, particularly the Philippines. I was telling them, “Whatever you do, please do not bring large numbers of these people in to your country. A few of them is ok, but lots of them is going to be a bad idea.”

That is because I figure that wherever large numbers of Blacks go on Earth, the following scenario below tends to occur. The end result is a lot of racism whereas when the Blacks first showed up, a lot of the natives might have been open-minded or indifferent to them. But after the Blacks have been there a while, a lot of understandable racism against them starts to develop, with a lot or understandable retaliatory racism and anger on the part of the Blacks towards the natives for the natives’ racism towards them. Don’t get me wrong, the racism of these natives will be real racism with all of its attendant injustice and targeting of innocents. Nevertheless,  it wasn’t without a trigger, and in a lot of ways, the Blacks in a sense created their own rejection.

This whole situation is very sad because so many Blacks are not a problem at all. I am certain that Huicipher, Phillip, Tulio, Alpha, E. Varick, Mushawasha (sorry if I left anyone out) and the rest of the Blacks on here would make a fine addition to any non-White country, but the anti-Black racism engendered by the behaviors above is going to hit them very hard too because they are going to be lumped in with all of the bad actors. The whole thing is rather sad actually. A lot of innocent Blacks get hurt.

Blacks show up in the civilized, non-White society.

After a while, they begin engaging in mass uncivilized behavior, the most important of which is that they commit an utterly insane amount of crime.

Logically, police begin profiling them and whatnot.

Logically, police begin arresting an incredible number of Black criminals. Why? Because the Blacks are committing a surreal amount of crime.

Because cops are arresting a huge portion of the Black population, inevitable excesses result.

Pretty soon, Blacks begin screaming about “police brutality!”

Police institute all sorts of sensitivity measures, but Blacks never stop screaming.

Because an absolutely insane amount of Blacks are being arrested and incarcerated, Blacks complain that “the system ain’t fair – it’s racist.”

Nowadays, it is probably not even all that true, with some exceptions for very racist areas like the South. In fact, there are studies that show that Blacks are LESS likely to be arrested for crimes and LESS likely to be convicted for the crimes they commit.

Blacks scream and yell that the system isn’t fair, is racist, bla bla. Even when Black juries convict Blacks, Black cops shoot Black criminals, somehow it all be racist and shit.

Black juries begin freeing obviously guilty Black criminals, Blacks periodically engage in mass urban riots due to “police brutality”.

This bullshit goes on forever with no end in sight, ever.

The whole stupid cycle is caused by one thing: Blacks committing a ridiculous amount of crime in the first place! This is what causes the whole mess.

 

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316 responses to “The Genesis of Black Minority Problems in a Non-Black Society

  1. EPGAH

    Yes, but the problem is, Blacks don’t notice their own bad behavior, then claim we’re “attacking” them. All we’re doing is defending ourselves.

    Ironically, Hucipher admitted any healthy society should protect its own — then proceeded to lambaste whites for not helping our enemies enough.
    Oh, and he thought education would be the solution even though he himself admitted Blacks disdain education.

    Given the threats to massacre his hosts like Haiti or drop America the way the Goths did Rome, I don’t think he’d be a good addition to ANY country.
    The other countries apparently agree! That’s why these other countries dump their trash on us, instead of offering to take ours, right?

    • Jason Y

      quote by ep-gah

      Yes, but the problem is, Blacks don’t notice their own bad behavior, then claim we’re “attacking” them. All we’re doing is defending ourselves.

      That’s just pure and simple nationalism common to all nations.

      For instance, the South Koreans always blame their problems on Americans and Japanese. They believe any admission of wrong-doing on their part is “co-towing to foreign powers” or being a “yes man”, which is basically the equivelent of “Uncle Tom”, or some other hideous traitor.

      So the enemy here isn’t genetic or environmental per se, but just plain and simple pride to the point of foolishness.

      • Jason Y

        Nobody among a certain racial group wants to be labeled as a dickhead or cocksucker, someone that speaks out against the popular group consensus. In most cases, the popular group consensus is whatever the racial group views as right. So if the blacks say “Rodney King was beaten unfairly”, your not going to be the black dicksucker to say he wasn’t.

      • Jason Y

        You couldn’t speak up overseas for Bush, for one thing. The Europeans I met overseas would bully you viscously if you dared had an argument based on free speech, or a two-sided argument. You couldn’t have one.

        This one Irish guy I met would constantly bully me, pitting me against the Korean teachers (who didn’t like me much anyways), calling me chocolate man (get it? Gay guy), saying I was gay (or stupid etc..) Constantly assulting me personally saying I was a “mamas boy”, I couldn’t make it on my own etc..

        Mostly this was all due to the fact, I came from a nation this guy didn’t like, and I tried to look at things from a free speech POV. Ok, well he would talk about politics and I would speak my mind. But this asshole brought up the conversation. What am I supposed to do, not say anything, or be a puppet??

        • Jason Y

          The Irish person and the Korean teachers also called me a GIMP behind my back. A gimp, I tell you! See the level of hate there.

        • EPGAH

          Wow! You mean YOU got tired of being hectored, lectured, and censored all for some misplaced sensitivity? Guess how Americans feel when we’re told we’re “bad” for saying people who actually ACT BAD are bad?

        • Jason Y

          The anti-Americanism is a joke overseas. The Irish guy’s logic is: “Yeah, I’m sensitive about imperalism and I care about the people of the world, but I also make fun of GIMPS and see nothing wrong with it.”

          See the hypocrisy? That’s the problem I have with liberalism in general, though I don’t like white nationalism either. You can’t act like you “care about various things” without being a massive hypocrite. You can’t be politically correct without being a hypocrite.

        • Jason Y

          Of course, I’m not being the PC police and saying people are supposed to be perfect. It’s only I see the massive hypocrisy of so many people who promote righteousness in one thing, yet clearly practice evil at the same time.

      • EPGAH

        Yes, but this “nationalism” you accuse them of is within OUR nation.
        True nationalism is protecting your nation from all enemies within or without…Sort of like the oath you take when joining the military or the one you’re SUPPOSED to take for public office?

    • Johnny

      Not sure how much people discuss this, but given that AfAms are a mere 12% of the population and intermarriage is becoming more and more frequent it is more likely they will vanish as a distinct subculture. It just won’t happen super fast, but just looking at the NBA it does seem to be happening.

      Well, low skill workers can be given purpose over time. Probably get rid of the census forms and let people write in a voluntary one. If Latinos in the US can be made to believe they are a single group why can’t the rest of Americans?

      • Do you have data that supports this claim of them “vanishing”. Also, interracial marriage typically happen with the smarter males and females, those like closer to the average white IQ mean.

        Also, the reason why Latinos are perceived as a single group is due to perception of ethnicity, them sharing some sort of Spanish ancestry whether technically being white, mixed Blacks, or mestizo.

        This is talking about RACIAL group relations between each other. You mention low skill workers too. During economically shifts they are the most vulnerable towards becoming unemployed. Many Aframs are low skilled workers ON TOP of being very prone to riots when under the right conditions compared to other American races. Not seeing that ending well.
        Also, bringing the Latino, Black, and low skill worker thing together, are you aware of there relation to each other in terms of American immigration?

        Forgive me if I seem cynical, I’m just trying to be straight forwards because it’s not all that simple.

        • Johnny

          Well, here’s an example: Argentina. Once it had a black population due to slavery, but without official rigid segregation they vanished. Even Brazil, which had slavery decades after we ended it has a large mixed population that is still more European than not (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilians#Mixed_.28Multiracial.29_people). Also, how many intermarriages does it take for black genes to submerge? Two, maybe three? And 2% of AfAms have substantial European ancestry already. It’s all about identity politics. People need to be desegregated along with school bussing and they’ll vanish into the population yes.

          I think we’re overlooking raw physical appeal. I’ve seen really smart people married to not so smart people. There are lots of variables.

          Yes, and given that about half of Latinos self-identify as white in the US (these groups are likely the product of mixed marriages and groups like Cuban Americans who appear to be predominantly white as well) the decline of the white population is being exaggerated. More people will self identify as exotic whites in the future, but in the phenotype sense things won’t change that drastically. Especially given the drop in birthrates everywhere (except for sub-Saharan Africa and parts of the Mideast etc).

          Well, it’s a slow process, assimilation I mean. Low skilled workers can be useful (given agriculture in this country), but the reality is that we are now coming to a net zero migration phase as birthrates in Mexico and even Central America decline.

          As for AfAms and crime, keep in mind that many are in prison due to drug related offenses. I contend that they can and will be absorbed over time IF we have policies in place that scatter them and don’t ghettoize.

          I don’t know if I’m simplifying things. I agree things are complicated, but not necessarily as people might perceive. The raw data and numbers and historical parallels in this hemisphere to me indicate that we will in the not too distant future have a very diminished black population. And with many of them trending towards some upward mobility this really should be a non-issue given the host of other problems we face! Add to this there is no other solution. Complaining about other groups won’t make them vanish or improve things. We need solutions ultimately and I’m optimistic in this regard as I see this country as still the sole superpower that produces more advanced tech and science than the rest of the planet so we’re unlikely to decline so much as get more competition.

        • I think you are confused. One, I didn’t mean that it can’t happen in America BUT I see no evidence that it will happen in America.

          Plus, Aframs the ethnicity is what you are talking about. Aframs are an ethnicity by nationality and race rather than culture like with Latinos. There are Ghetto Blacks, Gullah people, and southern Rural Black who don’t see themselves as the “Same culture”.

          If they mixed with whites, they will perceive themselves as mixed race or African American because they will likely have prominent African features that don’t “vanish”. Also, en masse mixing can lead to more health problems due to difference races having different genetic medical traits.

          I can say more but Santoculto is will likely have more to say on the subject, so I suggest you would talk to him about it.

          But what I can say is that you are right that we should be more prone to solution thinking, but simply identity politics is more at play. Are you Aware of racial differences on a biological level?

        • Johnny

          Well, I think there’s ample evidence that groups are converging in various ways actually. Rates of intermarriage have gone up and will continue to do so given current trends (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States#Black_and_White).

          I don’t know what else we can go by here.

          The terms are somewhat ambiguous. AfAms are American by nationality and primarily black by ethnicity (with European admixture that is growing). Also, I think it varies greatly and actually I’ve known many ‘mixed’ people who lean heavily towards the white parent (usually when they are less than half black). Take these guys:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klay_Thompson
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Humphries

          Generally though, mixing leads to hardier humans according to most mainstream research: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3146070/Mixed-race-relationships-making-taller-smarter-Children-born-genetically-diverse-parents-intelligent-ancestors.html

          I mean that’s the thing right? What solutions are gonna be advocated? Short of genocide and forced sterilization, none of which have a ghost of a chance of happening.

          This conversation reminds me of Light in August by the great William Faulkner. The character Joe Christmas being a reminder that race is often about perception rather than concrete differences. I mean who here is going to argue that Neil Degrasse Tyson isn’t intelligent? Upbringing and environment (and in his case someone who took an interest in him, i.e. Carl Sagan) can make a huge difference.

          Yes, I’m familiar with racial differences, but again so what? The differences are marginal and even if they are substantial we need to talk about co-existence with fellow sentient beings ultimately. Otherwise, there’s conflict.

          With that said, the future likely holds things we will be surprised by. Now that humans have mapped the genome we are likely to be experimenting on ourselves to the point that race will likely become an afterthought, although this speculative obviously.

          The solution to me is integration, doing away with the census and tackling issues that lead to problems. I would even do away with most affirmative action and replace it with economic advantages for the poor, including poor whites. Who’s going to argue against that?!

        • I’ll admit you have a point, but I think there are some assertions that are too quixotic.

          One, your article.
          https://notpolitcallycorrect.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/dailymail-mixed-race-relationships-are-making-us-taller-and-smarter-children-born-to-genetically-diverse-parents-are-more-intelligent-than-their-ancestors/
          Debunked.

          And even if it was relevant, just because intermarriage is increasing that doesn’t mean it won’t stop before Aframs “disappear”. It also doesn’t tell us the pattern at which this is happening.

          Plus integration…this is what I meant by asking if you were aware of racial differences. When you have two races that are, particular behaviorally different to a degree, they will have conflict. Such in this situation being disproportionate crime on Blacks part, and their overall achievement plight in comparison to other races.

          Now, this isn’t to say that NO blacks can interact with whites or vice versa, I actually seen ones who were VERY dark and acted just fine with some. However, due to IQ averages and behavioral trends (again, averages) this is quite difficult. in terms of having mutually sentient beings.

          However, you may be on to something with DNA manipulation, however as you also said tit is speculative. Still, seems closer to a reality than say those other things you felt were unlikely.
          The problem with that though, is that many have a sentiment towards their heritage. It may be superficial to you, but it is nonetheless a real obstacle for this option.

          Please, don’t think I’m shooting you down. I actually like your optimism towards this but if something won’t work it won’t work. Still, any other ideas are appreciated.

        • Johnny

          Interesting points (regarding nutrition and the like which is possible although I’m not sure this entirely debunks the point of genetic diversity being better for the gene pool than saying marrying your sister, but this is an extreme point), BUT even if mixed marriages don’t lead to healthier offspring, my main contention is that I don’t think they lead to WORSE offspring and I’ll need to see something from a peer reviewed academic study that shows that mixed children are somehow worse. The role of environment makes a big difference and I’ve seen it myself on many occasions back when I did some substitute teaching in some rough inner city schools. Their problem is their home life of the lack thereof. Thus, you can’t scare them into behaving by threatening to call their parents etc.

          See, that’s what I’m saying, we need public policies that break-up the ghettos and integrate people. IF you’re point is you want ‘white’ Americans to remain in the majority (even as exotic whites who will one day say how they have a great grandfather who was black etc), then your most humane recourse is to merge the small groups and control immigration (and this going to be dealt with through dropping birthrates and development). Now mind you I don’t care about this. As I said, the world is changing in ways that make much of this pointless other than as a form of mental masturbation (since none of us are going to impact public policy). The alternative is just what I said, conflict. Gotta be clear on that because while people like to talk about how things should be they aren’t always willing to say what they’re willing to do because of course most people will not go along especially in this day and age.

          Now again, most crime in black communities IS black on black. There’s a lot of information on the overall aspect of crime in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

          Mostly though, it’s about poverty. It’s why I believe affirmative action should shift from identity politics to simply economic status and include poor whites whose improved situation would help society as a whole.

          The issue of IQ averages doesn’t matter. I’ll explain why. First, no one is going to listen to others telling them who to interact with anyway. That and we can add the points of nutrition and environment here. How much do those factors alter IQ or is it simply inherent? Since you brought up nutrition there is a body of work regarding IQ and nutrition as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_health_on_intelligence

          Again, policies need to be realistic and actionable and not about eugenics as that is something people won’t go along with. I am however saying that IF you want an improved society the most humane and viable approach is merging smaller groups into the MUCH bigger Euro-American population, including white Latinos. And even future immigration can just continue to absorb these new arrivals. I don’t think European genes are that recessive that they simply vanish, especially if you’re predominantly of European ancestry. Race in America also deals too much in purity and doesn’t take into account just how random genetics can be.

          Right, that’s my point that we need to do away with identity politics as much as possible. Most people have superficial heritage issues and want to appear proud (a useless emotion as confidence is a far better thing to strive for) etc and are partially manipulated by the census. They see themselves on the form and automatically may decide I’m with them. A voluntary census in which you fill in the blank changes this. I’m just saying that there are solutions to problems that can on some level please almost everyone. The alternatives can be quite dire.

          I might be optimistic, but I think I’m more into problem-solving. Complaining is something everybody loves to do, but they don’t consider what happens next. No real viable solutions and thus we end up with yet more problems.

          And I didn’t even mention how people are altering themselves now with plastic surgery and the like. Imagine what people will do to themselves if they can mess with how they look at a genetic level. Considering all of this, the subject of race is (at least to me) more of an entertaining topic to deconstruct and examine from an academic level at least, but from a social standpoint I don’t think it matters IF we look at the world a little differently.

          Take as an example I was at a job a few years ago and met this girl in an elevator. She looked to be some sort of mixed girl, and I was right she was Dominican and looked to be half white and half black roughly. We got to talking and she worked at a Latino political outreach non-profit. I blew it with her the moment I questioned why her org didn’t just shift to outreach for all poor and under-represented people and brought up that Latino isn’t really a race but a cultural construct. My point here is I’m fully aware of how people orient themselves, but it may really be time for a post-racial view and that comes from moving away from identity politics and inclusion.

        • Okay Johnny, you have my attention.

          I must say that you might be a good voice here in terms of seeking solutions I’m a tad busy at the moment but I’ll get back to your other points later,

          For now feel free to suggest as many ideas as you see fit.

      • Alright Johnny, I think you will be a nice inclusion to this forum.

        I’m currently too busy to investigate your claims but as I skimmed through you seem legit.

        I’ll look at them more in depth later if that’s okay with you.

  2. Jason Y

    Actually as the commenter Phil pointed out, genetic based iQ trends in Africa and other places could be reversed by ending polygamy, among other things like incest. In that case, the white nationalist dogma is “snake oil medicine” stuff. Non-whites are not by nature, by God’s decree, an inferior race.

    Anyhow though, we can’t say all aspects of IQ are genetically based, and it could even be the case sometimes that two dumb people could produce a smart child. We are just looking at what “generally happens”.

    As far as the environment goes, I don’t think society has pushed the “environmental help” to the max degree. Generally, people in many poor nations have crappy education, cause they like under right wing regimes. In that case, the references to “genetic based IQ” could be more of an excuse or deflection, than actual fact.

    Finally, we have shown that violence etc.. is caused by one parent homes, and other breakdown in traditional culture, hence having a low IQ doesn’t always lead to violence. Plenty of gentle low IQ people abound.

    • Jason Y

      Meant to say ” Generally, people in many poor nations have crappy education, cause they live under right wing regimes. “

    • “Actually as the commenter Phil pointed out, genetic based iQ trends in Africa and other places could be reversed by ending polygamy, among other things like incest. In that case, the white nationalist dogma is “snake oil medicine” stuff. Non-whites are not by nature, by God’s decree, an inferior race.

      Anyhow though, we can’t say all aspects of IQ are genetically based, and it could even be the case sometimes that two dumb people could produce a smart child. We are just looking at what “generally happens”.

      As far as the environment goes, I don’t think society has pushed the “environmental help” to the max degree. Generally, people in many poor nations have crappy education, cause they like under right wing regimes. In that case, the references to “genetic based IQ” could be more of an excuse or deflection, than actual fact.

      Finally, we have shown that violence etc.. is caused by one parent homes, and other breakdown in traditional culture, hence having a low IQ doesn’t always lead to violence. Plenty of gentle low IQ people abound.”

      IQ trends could POSSIBLY be reversed via the institution and success of Monogamous nature rather than just simply ending Polygamy. Doing such alone would just make the behavior take form in other acts like prostitution.

      Also, IQ has a strong genetic basis however there are cases where depending on where the parents of a child lie on the IQ scale will determine the child’s IQ. For example, if they are the typical norm their child’s IQ may go up due to heritability not being 100%. If an outlier, the IQ may go down. As and below norm, the IQ may go up to the mean.

      However, the effects will likely reverse at some point.

      That las tone is absoltutely ridiculous in terms of the significance of IQ nad violence. True, low IQ alone may not have an outcome violence but it DOES indicate lack of impulse control! The exceptions are just variance in the Realm behavior. Plus “Low IQ” doesn’t mean the “Same low IQ” meaning one could be 85 and the other 90 or one 85 and the other 75.

      IQ, whether you like it or not, has a substantial effect on behavior and no amount of anecdotes or fallacies you pull can refute this ESPECIALLY since Robert has posted this topic IN CONSESUS with it.

      • Jason Y

        Even with intellegent blacks like this, most white nationalists, especially on Stormfront, believe all blacks are simpletons.

        • From what I’ve seen with them they basically that blacks like me aren’t “real blacks” (sure until they see me at home).

          I’ll give you this Jason, I don’t have much of a passion to defend those types. They disgust me to a degree too.

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          From what I’ve seen with them they basically that blacks like me aren’t “real blacks” (sure until they see me at home).

          I’ll give you this Jason, I don’t have much of a passion to defend those types. They disgust me to a degree too.

          They accuse smart white enemies of being Jewish (when often they’re not) and stupid ones as being black.

          What’s bad is these WNs base so much of thier thinking on pseudoscience that has no more valdity than superstition, or stuff you’d take by faith in a religious creed. These people want to base a society on this stuff. It’s very scary.

        • I’ll give you credit in regard to that remark if we distinguish WN from Race Realist.
          https://notpolitcallycorrect.wordpress.com/2015/11/28/response-to-daily-stormer-article-black-africans-are-genetically-closer-to-bonobos-than-to-white-humans/comment-page-1/

          I was quite happy this article. I’ll also admit that it’s mainly stuff like this that I would call pseudoscience amongst WNs.

          Still I see different type along the continuum. The favorable extreme would be pro-white, the middle one being somewhat more radical towards criticsm but not completely illogical, and then there is dogmatic types.

          While I can understand the agitation of Dogmatic types in severe situations like this, I cannot say that it is a pleasant experience being with them. There emotion clouds sensibility and they become tribal.

          Essentially there behavior taught me just a glimpse of what it’s like for a civilized person to be amongst tribal people from a quite disheartening point of view.

          Still, I had better experiences with WN types who can actually discuss things rationally and aren’t always grounded on proving inferiority. Many could care less on why things are and just want things fixed, that trait being my preferred.

        • Advanced anal negrology

          Wrong. They are aware of the IQ bell curve, and hence, they do not come to this simplistic generalisation.

          In a way you are sneakily saying that people at stormfront are the real simpletons. Admit it.

      • Jason Y

        quote by phil

        IQ, whether you like it or not, has a substantial effect on behavior and no amount of anecdotes or fallacies you pull can refute this ESPECIALLY since Robert has posted this topic IN CONSESUS with it.

        However, bad behavior, influenced by IQ, can be controlled in a two parent home.

        • I suppose you can add that to the things you’re researching I presume?

        • Jason Y

          I’ll do more research,, but you saw from the economist link about South Africa that two thirds of the children came from one parent homes.

        • AAaannnndd What is to be done with that? That a result of prevalent polygamous behavior? Perhaps Mentor programs?

          Also I didn’t notice any video.

        • Jason Y

          AAaannnndd What is to be done with that? That a result of prevalent polygamous behavior? Perhaps Mentor programs?

          Also I didn’t notice any video.

          Polygomous behavior might lead to one parent homes, so I would see the black problem as being more a religious problem than a genetic one.

  3. Jason Y

    How are we for certain certain poor whites would be a fine addition to a white nation? You could just as easily make a “White trash in white trash land” as much as a “Negroes in Negroland” book. Of course, the whites might not be violent, but they are comically inferior. Generally, most educated whites don’t want to be around white trash as they annoy them. and their problems (drug use, among many things) wreck havoc in any family.

  4. Jason Y

    Perhaps we can say that our American society has been too nice to blacks, in the fact that the welfare system has been built so poorly, rewarding one parent homes. However, genetic influences, by themselves, apart from the environment, are not enough to make American blacks monsters who destroy everything in sight.

    • Jason Y

      This seems to conflict with my posts saying the US government is trying to oppress blacks, and also agreeing blacks are discriminated against in housing and education. But not really. The truth of the matter is both ideas are right.

      If black people came from two parent homes, they’d be more able to resist schemes of the US government and US businesses to oppress them. Basically the government bullies weak blacks, mainly ones raised in one parent homes.

    • Jm8, Don’t worry about it.

    • Joe

      Genetics would account for the propensity to negative, impulsive decisions, and generally, without the proper socialization, these unchecked impulses are what leads to the nature of crime that we see in the black population.

      It just so happens that much of these criminal impulses are fostered in poor communities with one parent homes. Fostered, in the sense that they’re unchecked.

  5. Jason Y

    quote RobertLindsay

    This is from an old post of mine. I thought about this when I was talking to some of my friends in other countries, particularly the Philippines. I was telling them, “Whatever you do, please do not bring large numbers of these people in to your country. A few of them is ok, but lots of them is going to be a bad idea.”

    Filipinos don’t like blacks. The comments of them would out do Archie Bunker. It’s ironic cause so many of them like Eminem. Go figure.

  6. “This whole situation is very sad because so many Blacks are not a problem at all. I am certain that Huicipher, Phillip, Tulio, Alpha, E. Varick, Mushawasha (sorry if I left anyone out) and the rest of the Blacks on here would make a fine addition to any non-White country, but the anti-Black racism engendered by the behaviors above is going to hit them very hard too because they are going to be lumped in with all of the bad actors. The whole thing is rather sad actually. A lot of innocent Blacks get hurt.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/26/knockout-game-arrest_n_4505336.html

    That’s pretty much among my greatest motivators to seeking a solution.
    There are going to eventually be a lot more of these and Dylan Roofs. It’s funny, as much as I know people who now about this are suffering, these actions are clearly irrational. I mean think about it, when people think about pathological Blacks it isn’t exactly guys near there 80’s or church Blacks.

    Like the Milwaukee Beat Whitey Night, they were attacked because they were easy targets. Decent Blacks not enough in number as it stands, so this isn’t helping anyone.

    Some people don’t have the patience, patience that shouldn’t have been necessary in the first place, and some WILL find there solution if “we” don’t.

  7. Santoculto

    Big civilizations are just like a overlap of people with average different times of biological (and it implies sometimes in ‘complex” cognition) ”development”. Is like you have a novel race living with a older ones, but novel or older in the human context look very relative, because we are using the criteria of cognition and not the entire biological scope. Every group have average biological or developmental clock. Blacks, on average, are like transitional hunter gatherers living inside big human farm, as if you put ”wild” dogs or wolfes living together with ”domestic” dogs in the same territory.

    Of course, individuals will tend to have different(ional) bio-developmental stage specifically if they (or he) are(be) very divergent than their related group.

    • Well technically Blacks are primitive agriculturalists , though due to African pressures of environment they actually gained more expressed polygamous traits that Hunter Gatherers have. So in a way you are still right.

      • Santoculto

        Well, transitional hunter gatherers could be understand as primitive or first agriculturalists because the term transitional, increasing the sedentarism via improvement of modified environment. Of course africans develop average (and comparatively) different traits because their unique historical adaptation. Polygamous traits also could be viewed as invasive (pre-chaotic) territorial approach, rules and laws in human complex societies seems to be like ”respect for man-territoriality” and with post modernity this was extended for all individuals, supposedly. This individual territoriality OR important part of morality seems to be denigrated by ”alpha men”.

        When we looking for all problems today become impossible give all guilty for the women. Women don’t make anything without men acceptance. Unfortunatelly this is a reality of world where we live.

        The most problematics are the many types (if it there) of ”alpha” man, just look for criminality, wars and white collar crimes. Wars are just macro-man conflicts.

  8. Santoculto

    Average young black, here in Brazil at least, tend to be very arrogant and nasty people, If most them were good people i ”would” not be ”racist’. The basics of empathy laws are broken all the time by many them, they ”call” a ”femmale” stuff, what normal people called ”respect”. We have associative brains. ”bees’ sting, ”jews’ lie, ”black’ behave badly even in times of ‘peace’, etc etc etc. Stereotypes are wrong just when you pre-conclude without investigate all the reality of this specific subject… and separate good apples from bad ones, and in this case, the exceptions. Make sense to think that ”color skin tend to correlate with bad behavior” but even with majority of right association, exceptions prove for us that is not supra-causal but very demographically (proportionally) correlated.

    • Santoculto

      Supra-causality is just ”conceptualization”, bees are bees, ants are ants, and are and, are are are, nature of living beings or non-concentrated organisms like atmospheric phenomena (if i’m not producing a erratic novel thinking) etc… what it is. blacks are not violence or behavior that express violence, extreme competion, like carnivorous animals tend to react. Is not ‘dark skin cause”, if just one healthy person with dark sin is not violent. Is a rule that femme tend to be lighter than machos, but is not exactly causal.

      • Santoculto, it is great to hear from you again.
        The way that you can just understand the nature of humanity, how it behaves, is quite a delightful contrast from even the most credible race realists.

        Robert said something in the past that HBD doesn’t changes reality, just how we look at it. While hbd bloggers may have an edge in understanding the mechanics, there are times when they seem inconsistent with understanding the nature of the grand scheme occasionally.

        • Santoculto

          Hbds, seems, want to use ”genetic determinism” to justify the world where their masters rule. ”IQ” for example is always used for justify average black poverty and average jewish wealthy. They use the idea of nepotism and tribalism to explain why wars are happening in middle east without take into account the reality of Isisrael and USA there, manage all this conflicts. They want justify the superior intelligence as excuse for evilness. Is much more complex and structural than just genetic. They don’t want change or improve the world just justify, always like that. They are far to be reliabe, and worst, very worst, because they use important part of truth of this subjects but not to justify itself but the ”new” world order.

          To understand what you can understand and better, you need just to be honest with yourself, to beggin. Is much more easy. People think in rational universal potential, all human beings can be iluminated by the light of reason, is like what my eyes are seeing. Look simpler, but not, because beings just express in their behavior what they are and not what reality are, is always a ego-centric approach, even when the wisest made it. The real philosophy is try to be the reality to understand it, without super-egos.

          Thank you! I want stop to comment here because Robert have intractable differences. I’m not tolerant because i’m very perfeccionist in behavior, specifically in behavior and most people are not even preponderant in their rational long term reactions.

        • “To understand what you can understand and better, you need just to be honest with yourself, to beggin. Is much more easy. People think in rational universal potential, all human beings can be iluminated by the light of reason, is like what my eyes are seeing. Look simpler, but not, because beings just express in their behavior what they are and not what reality are, is always a ego-centric approach, even when the wisest made it. The real philosophy is try to be the reality to understand it, without super-egos.”

          Huh…wisdom seems to be a unappreciated art nowadays. I’m not simply trying to be nice towards your perspectives, but in the days in earlier history philosophers from both scientific finds and there perspectives of nature were lauded.

          Nowadays, we are too caught up with debating Mechanisms rather than tying things to the nature behind it, how it can be applied to society and then boom, someone comes along and manipulates the perspectives and society becomes victims of conforming to it.

        • As to being honest when dealing with it, well I think I’ve been doing something similar.

          First it’s starts with me raking bad news like IQ or behavior, but then I try too look at it from different perspectives, compare it’s significance to the rest of issue and events of the world and try to set in in a more objective light.

          Like with what you said of correlation vs causation, I’ve seen low IQ balcks who may indeed have troubles to succeed but they also exceed even me in terms of temperament aswell as likelihood of being an aggressive criminal. Thus my Extrovert vs Angry Introvert concept. So it’s more like they are at a risk of having a certain path due to a tendency rather than they are set in stone.

          Also, I learned something that I think you would like to here. Senegal, while sharing a lot of issue like other Nations of West Africa, has gained a reputation of being relatively more stable. I’ve also learned that it has among the more prominent monogamous minorities of Blacks in it’s population compared to other ones.

          Basically, monogamous lifestyles Eurasians dealt with during the ice age called for more nuclear investment thus decreasing aggression. In the tropics, however the female wasn’t as reliant towards the male since gathering was more prosperous thus leaving the male not so invested in
          children (Black father stereotype). Though in the genepool remained a suppressed monogamous fitted minority of men. Senegal on way or another has a particularly large one I think it is know coincidence that it did.

          Polygamy in Africa though cannot be stop widespread to see better. One, depending on the economics of the region they could either benefit or worsen a population that practices it. Two, like incest, simply stopping won’t help for polygamous behavior will just be done through different sex acts. It would require both putting it a halt and instituting the monogamous fitness for the environment for it to work.

          So, what to do? I’m unsure.

        • Jm8

          to Phil

          “remained a suppressed monogamous fitted minority of men. Senegal on way or another has a particularly large one ”

          Monogamous men are probably not a minority(even historically) , either in Senegal, or in most of Africa. The post by Frost in the on Senegal, concerns the Serer ethnic minority tribe of the Saloum region (which is what I think you refer to). The dominant culture in Senegal are the Wolof, who may be less Polygamous(and are culturally quite different from the Serer). Even among the Serer group studied (by Alverge), polygamous men were not a majority but at most a large minority.

          According to data ranging from the 1930’s-mid 20th century, the average number of wives per married man much of West Africa is about 1.2-2. The numbers for (more ethnically representative parts of) Senegal are 1.1, 1.3, and 1.3. The percentage of all marriages that are polygynous given for Senegal is about 23, which is high relative to most of Eurasia.

          Average numbers of wives per married man :
          Sierra Leone at 2.3, Ivory Coast at 1.3, Nigeria at 2.1 and 1.5, Cameroon at 1.0-1.3, Congo at 1.3-1.3, Uganda at 1.2

          Perspectives on Africa: A Reader in Culture, History and Representation
          p.391

          Polygamy had various contributors
          Much of West Africa in fact had strongly male (or balanced) farming systems (especially in the seasonally dry Savannah), but a higher rate of Polygamy than many of East Africa(where women farmed relatively more). Polygamy was used sometimes used to produce more sons to help on farms(as argued by Dorjahn and Jack Goody)
          The Character of Kinship
          By Jack Goody p.180-181

        • To Jm8

          https://www.polygamy.com/articles/89746509/polygamy-in-africa

          Well perhaps in times after Foreign contacts like Islam, but prior Polygamy was a common practice. Plus, just because Polygamously born men were living in a different lifestyle that doesn’t mean that polygamous behavior wouldn’t continue through various types of sex acts like prostitution

          This link, whole not as specific as you, is a little more comprehensive.

        • Jm8

          “Well perhaps in times after Foreign contacts like Islam, but prior Polygamy was a common practice. Plus, just because Polygamously born men were living in a different lifestyle that doesn’t mean that polygamous behavior wouldn’t continue through various types of sex acts like prostitution”

          The article didn’t really contradict what I said.
          None of the countries(with average numbers of wives) I listed are Muslim except Senegal( the Wolof and Fulani, not the Serer) and the Wolof only recently. Elite men such as chiefs, kings and merchants sometimes had many wives (the kings of Ashanti, Dahomey, and Buganda had Harems). most other men did not (more commonly 1-2). There are earlier accounts by western visitors describing monogamy and bigamy as the norm in many tribes.

          Also, South African rate of single parenthood is not representative of Africa generally. SA’s history of long term male labor (rather large scale) relocations by the former regime ( e.g.: large parts of a township’s male population in mining camps for long stretches), is a likely factor. Rates (for the modest sample of countries below, put Africa’s single parenthood in the range of Latin America’s. Widowhood from political conflicts and labor migrations are often leading causes of male absence in Africa (and parts of Latin America) rather than abandonment.

          “About 80 percent of children in European countries live in two-parent households (ranging from 76 percent in the United Kingdom to 89 percent in Italy/Poland). In the Americas, between 62 percent (Colombia) and 78 percent (Canada) of children live in two-parent households. The two-parent pattern is more mixed in sub-Saharan Africa, ranging from 36 percent in South Africa to 76 percent in Nigeria. Some of these children living in two-parent households are also living with extended families, as noted above.”

          http://worldfamilymap.ifstudies.org/2014/articles/world-family-indicators/family-structure

          From what I have seen, several W. Africa countries (not in the article’s sample) more resemble Nigeria in their two parent rates (but I will have to find some sources)

          Two parents, though not co-resident(or any longer married) may nonetheless continue to jointly provide for and raise children, while living near to each other (different from a “lone” parent situation with other parent missing). This (duolocal) arrangement (at moderate rates) has been sometimes been observed some cultures with matrilineal tendencies like the Akan/Ashanti of Ghana They may be counted among “single parent” arrangements. Patrilineal tribes are somewhat more common in West Africa overall, including Nigeria.

          Concerning the Ga and Ashanti peoples of Ghana:
          “If the duolocal couple has children, they often live with the mother but retain normal bonds with the father. The woman will receive money, usually referred to as “chop money”(chop means “food” in the local pidgin; my parenthesis), and/or other resources from the man for the maintenance of the duolocal household. The woman will supplement the man’s “chop money or resources with food from her farm and/or income from her off-farm activities.”
          Challenging Situatedness: Gender, Culture and the Production of Knowledge
          By Ericka Engelstad, Siri Gerrard, p.117

          https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=Challenging+Situatedness%3A+Gender%2C+Culture+and+the+Prod

        • Jm8

          To Robert:

          I apologize about the graphic/copy paste. I’m not sure what the rules are on those (But If it’s permitted, I’m ok with it). (Yet again) I meant for it to show as a link. I’m not the most tech-savy person. I should perhaps err on the side of caution and not post image-only links.

        • To Jm8.

          Alright, if the article is consistent to what you said then the point still stands that after many periods of time of polygamy’s practice in the Sub Sahara, polygamous behavior in the populace is still likely.

          The institution of Monogamy being present is one things, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that these relations ships are as stable persay as Eurpoean counterparts on average. And again, polygamous behavior can continue through different acts, such as prostitution.

          BTW, I don’t mean to have a harsh tone with you, I just see this as mild debate. I f you honestly have any objections, then by all means object.

          Also, could you find any reasons why those Terrace fields existed in Southern Africa near the ruins?

        • Jm8

          “Alright, if the article is consistent to what you said then the point still stands that after many periods of time of polygamy’s practice in the Sub Sahara, polygamous behavior in the populace is still likely.”

          You seem to have cited the article as supporting
          Islam(and foreign influences) as responsible for non-majority rates of polygamists(at the times and places cited).

          The article (a part I missed on first read.) says a little misleadingly:
          “At first the polygamy was very popular in the west part of Africa, but as the Islam has started to diffuse in this region, the prevalence of polygamy has started to continuously reduce due to the restrictions that appeared to the number of wives.”
          This would only apply to regions/cultures with histories of islamization. Not nearly to “West Africa” as a region.Only certain societies of West Africa (some cultures of the Savannah/Sahel region), and have any such history. And in many Islam is hybrid with native beliefs. Most of the countries( (except Senegal) I cited (in West and Central Africa) had no muslim histories (having mostly remained traditionalist “animists”). Their “numbers” are at about the range of Senegal’s.

          To marry again, required from men in all periods, more wealth; the bride price required from a man by (an intended) woman’s family (as well added provisioning costs post marriage) Many young men had to work for the initial bride price, while others inherited it from kin. In general, divorce required return of bride wealth by the wife’s family. Marriage (being meant to produce and socialize children) usually involved both families rather than being a matter of individualistic desire.

          There may be earlier population data(re polygamy rates), which would help toward resolving the issue (and I will probably look into).

          ” I just see this as mild debate.”

          Perhaps it’s a little minor. I’m not sure.
          It seemed to me a point of significance/interest.
          But you could be right.

          “Also, could you find any reasons why those Terrace fields existed in Southern Africa near the ruins?”

          Terraced agriculture seems to develop at a certain stage of the culture of the Zimbabwe settlement area (and some successor sites like Nyanga), in response to local conditions;ecological,population pressures (from what I remember). They are analyzed along with other features in the various studies (which I linked). They are not considered (as I understand) incongruous or mysterious, in the cultural/archaeological context .
          Forms of terraced farming developed elsewhere in Africa , seemingly independently (e.g: the Mandara mtns. of Cameroon, Kofyar tribe of the Jos region in Nigeria, and Engaruka).

          http://www.academia.edu/1524680/The_prehistory_of_the_northern_Mandara_Mountains_and_surrounding_plains

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engaruka

        • To Jm8

          Alright, thank you for this info. Of you can find any marriage/breeding stats that would be helpful.
          If I seemed frustrating persistent, it’s just that when talking about African Breeding, Polygamy is often mentioned so I was convinced both it and it’s behavior “flourished” in Africa.

          Also, thank you for mentioning the terraces. I may look back at one of those links. Shiers is looking quite shady.

        • Jm8

          I should note that Islam permits polygamy (with up to four wives). Thus although it (Islam) could in theory lower average numbers of wives by reducing marriages with large (4 plus) numbers. It could not likely lower average numbers down to 1-2, by greatly reducing the percent of men with only 2-4 wives ( the permissible Muslim range).

      • To Jm8,

        You see that’s how I thought of Polygamy’s changes due to Islam. It actually shocked me when reading that Polygamy declined after Islam was introduced, so I figured it meant that Polygamy just decreased rather than it be restricted full front.

    • Jason Y

      Nobody like racial profiling. That’s what South Koreans do among many other people. They automatically look down on black people, Americans, Japanese, anyone they don’t like. Many people are hurt. Most people wouldn’t put up with their shit, but due to the massive profit to made there people put up with it. The usual response to such prejudice would be the middle finger.

  9. Santoculto

    People who talk all or most part of time about sex also is talking about themselves, a interesting (possible) way to communicate that they want to make sex… and in a natural world, sex is fundamentally correlated with procreation, of course. Self confident people tend to be like that,
    But for complex minds, talk too much about sex look very disgusting.

    Japan, one of the most civilized country on ”human Earth”, have the reputation of their self-depreciative culture, common approach in their social traditional circles, specially among the women, but seems also among the men, ”humility”.

    Like a molotov cocktail you have individuals, proportially abundant in the black communities, who are arrogant, nasty (bullies) and sex-communicators, into a eternal mating dance.

    • Jason Y

      That’s a joke. Japan is full of bullies, and yes blacks are also bullies, as it’s a universal trait. Why would you say only some people bully?

      Some of these commenters like santo-culto are claiming to be scienfiic in their posts, but they’re just venting frustration by posting half-truths and lies. It be like if I had a bad experience with some Braziliians and then I went all over the net saying, “Oh, Brazillians are bad people. They’re stupid etc..”

      • “self-depreciative culture”, what relevance does bullies have? They have that capacity innate, and just because they have it doesn’t make them representative of what the culture upholds.

        “Some of these commenters like santo-culto are claiming to be scienfiic in their posts, but they’re just venting frustration by posting half-truths and lies. It be like if I had a bad experience with some Braziliians and then I went all over the net saying, “Oh, Brazillians are bad people. They’re stupid etc..”

        All he stated in this was what the culture of Japan upholds, and also while he makes criticsms he doesn’t flatout say that ALL Blacks are bad people and is considerable more careful in his criticism than most.

        Also lets compare,

        “Nobody like racial profiling. That’s what South Koreans do among many other people. They automatically look down on black people, Americans, Japanese, anyone they don’t like. Many people are hurt. Most people wouldn’t put up with their shit, but due to the massive profit to made there people put up with it. The usual response to such prejudice would be the middle finger.”

        vs

        “Average young black, here in Brazil at least, tend to be very arrogant and nasty people, If most them were good people i ”would” not be ”racist’. The basics of empathy laws are broken all the time by many them, they ”call” a ”femmale” stuff, what normal people called ”respect”. We have associative brains. ”bees’ sting, ”jews’ lie, ”black’ behave badly even in times of ‘peace’, etc etc etc. Stereotypes are wrong just when you pre-conclude without investigate all the reality of this specific subject… and separate good apples from bad ones, and in this case, the exceptions. Make sense to think that ”color skin tend to correlate with bad behavior” but even with majority of right association, exceptions prove for us that is not supra-causal but very demographically (proportionally) correlated.”

        Which one do you honestly think is going to come off as a frustration venting commentor?

        And lets say he is, especially for someone who claims to have personality disorders, he doing a damn good job compared to others I’ve seen.

        • Santoculto

          Thank you again Phil.

          I live daily with a brazilian version of jay-son, my middle brother. They are very arrogant and inconsistent exactly like other side of dogmatics.

      • Santoculto

        As always jay-son with their mechanical boring copied approach.

        ”Japan is full of bullies and….. yes….. blacks are also bullies”

        For jay-son mindset, the idea of differential behavioral proportionalities simply don’t exist and, and, racism is always viewed as prejudice than justifiable, many times, certain right aspects of it.

        There are a bunch of different types of ”victims” because the diversity of circumstances and perspectives, but specially the person who suffer by this free psychological sadism.

        IS much more than obvious that there are japanese bullies but not in the same proportion than blacks, but jay-son manipulate the path of intelectual lightness to do it more difficult than ”he” really is.

        Look at also when jay talk about koreans…

        please jay, stop to think mechanically and think more about your own obvious contradictions!!!! please son!!!

        The world is (always, semantically superficial) relative for people like jay-son because even in their thoughts no there any coeherent structure.

        And obviously they accuse us to be or act like him. Nothing new!!

        • His intellectual dishonesty is beyond tedious.
          I believe I even stated to him once, paraphrasing, “Unlike me, you actually don’t care about the problem at hand. You don’t really care about where black are today or where they’ll be tomorrow. All you care about is that the explanation to the “problem” is coherent to your PC beliefs.”

          BTW, it turn out that the T boost in Blacks isn’t what makes a major portion of their population aggressive. It’s actually Excess in E2, a hormone steroid typically more dominate I female but essentially gives similar results in behavior to excess T, due to having to much excess Serotonin since the DNA sequence made to break Serotonin down (MAOA) is shorter in them.

          These sequences variations are more common in Blacks (5.5%), less common in whites (.1%) and Asians have surprisingly little.

          This makes sense considering that despite having lower T in adulthood than whites more aggressive behavior persists.

          Luckily, this doesn’t changes the format of a hormone solution. All it does is reconsider the hormone and the indications to study for a therapy or medication. Basically a method to remove excess serotonin would be a solution.

          Jason, of course, ignores this data and instead claims that One parent homes are the issue. Well actually it’s quite opposite, because One parent homes are actually a typical symptom of polygamous social development. The issue is the excess of serotonin and lower IQ sadly leaving them a dual risk of being aggressive with weaker impulse control.

          With serotonin removed though they maybe less aggressive but still probably impulsive. Overall, they would be easier to manage.

          However, after doing some research, it turns out the above percentages are just with alleles for MAOA 2 repeat. For 3R, Whites are at 34-35% while Blacks are near 60%.

          While disproportionate crime commiting will still persist, it wouldn’t be at such a large disparity.

          Will this end pathology? No but it will be more manageable.

        • Alpha Unit

          Phil,

          Would you recommend some kind of government intervention to alter Blacks? Should it be voluntary? What program would best achieve this?

        • Actually I’ve made an error in terms of indication. It’s not that if “Serotonin” is too much and it needs to be removed, it’s that it’s not Absorbed enough to increase brain concentration.

          In that case that makes thing easier.

          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2077351/

          Done and done!

        • Santoculto

          Jay is always forgeting and confusing cause and effect AND’causality” or partial causality and correlation. People who are less stable in marriage will tend to be more impulsive and more intolerant with other people if marriage is exactly this mutual amalgamation. And this people also will be more predisposed to be violent, like you said in other words.

          Other example of this confusion.

          ”People who play video games score higher in iq tests”

          Jay and co. think that play video games boorst iq scores, they mistake correlation with partial causation. People who tend to scores higher in iq tests (many them who are nerds) are more likely to play video games. Always avoiding the being by the circumstances.

          In other side, rightists, on average, always avoid circumstances by the being.

        • To Alpha,
          I would consider it voluntary for those who hadn’t offend, but lets say they made a minor offense perhaps a certain amount would be necessary to limit a second chance.

          As to what sort of program, perhaps something similar to current psychiatric programs for the aggressive, addicted, etc.?

          Don’t worry though, I won’t be dogmatic about it but I would still take it seriously.

        • Alpha Unit

          It raises some major ethical questions, to put it mildly.

        • To Alpha,

          I figured so, and it wasn’t particularly easy for me to consider things in an ethical perspective.

          I would try my best to maintain them to at least similar ethical treatment that aggressive people receive currently.

        • EPGAH

          Alpha Unit: What ethical questions does it raise, exactly? That we’re “interfering” with the savages? Are you trying to implement some version of the Prime Directive?

          We do that already with Civilized World food, money, and meds staving off Lord Darwin. If you want us to stop interfering with them, we’d have to let them die in assodatively VAST quantities. Where’s your “ethical questions” on THAT interference?

          Or interfering with the savages in our own countries by putting them in cages, or in extremely rabid cases, putting them down. Wouldn’t it be better if we could chemically reform them with something OTHER than Dr. EPGAH’s .50 Caliber Anti-Recidivism Pellets?
          Black Lies Matter and similar groups protest us having to put down the rabid savages. Abu Jamal keeps extending its life rather than pay the price for killing cops. Would reforming the rabid solve everyone’s problem?

        • Alpha Unit

          Epgah: Don’t tell me what I want or what I’m “trying to implement.” I’m asking questions.

        • EPGAH

          I don’t see where your ethical questions come from.
          We’re already interfering by saving their lives. Then we have to interfere again to save ourselves from them.

          The only question is “Kill, Cage, or Drug?” And I think drug is the least intrusive. Caging doesn’t teach them anything, especially when they can continue being a symbol of criminality–or even leading criminal movements–from within jail, like that Abu Jamal animal.

      • To Alpha,
        In otherwords, I won’t be dogmatic about and acknowledge free will but with this knowledge and attainable treatments it would be rather odd to do nothing that could benefit these people.

        • Alpha Unit

          I appreciate your acknowledgement of free will, but there is a larger issue. Targeting people to be altered on the basis of race is hugely problematic to begin with.

        • Wait, I’m not directly advocating that we take people and mess around with there DNA. What I proposing is a new inclusion to already present therapy practices.

          People who have mental issues already take medicine for those issue like depression or other things, so I don’t see why this wold be significantly different on an ethical standpoint.

        • The scenario I’m getting at is like, for example, there are already rehabilitation centers for addicts. There are also court sentences that requires subjects to be on certain medicine. I’m not suggesting any “new” institution but rather a new focus concerning Blacks.

          Even then, it doesn’t have to be ONLY blacks but anyone who would benefit from said treatments.

  10. Santoculto

    I always put in the place of woman to feel superficially how they feel when a bunch of men decide talk about sex near to them, without any politeness. Sex is fundamentally intrusive for most of woman, by obvious anatomical reasons. Courage and penis are both expansive. The difference between rape, mildly forced sex and sex is very little, specifically for those who ”receive” and not ”introduce”.

  11. Jason Y

    The best solution for racial profilers is to put them in a position where they are the “gay, black, retard etc.., to teach them a lesson.

    • Santoculto

      The tragedy of commons is that gays and blacks are on average more emotionally overreactive than other groups, read, ”paranoia”.

      Is correct to say that many blacks are freely discriminated, specially for media. In Brazil, almost of black actors act in soap operas as ”slaves” and ”people who live in favelas or scums”. Unfortunately, what media show is what really happened in the past and what really happen, proportionally significant, today. The reality can look hurt when stereotypes are always enphasised.

      But also is correct to say that every mixed race couples in soap operas and in a country of less than 20% of white people, is offensive too. With this ”egalitarian” ideology, genocides can be easily justified.

      As a ”homossexual” i note a implicit and very subtil bias against my person ”even” by my family. many ordinary people feel uncomfortable near to you when they know who you are. Its is stressfull and hurtfull. Is like when you will in the house of a known person and note that she dislike your visit because dislike of your person.

      Ordinary people are not just very stupid, on average, but also very nasty, they are as robots with defects, they don’t reflect your attitudes and even when they do, don’t know as react correctly. In the truthful words, they don’t know how react honestly but not badly. Is candied that truth is the same to be ”sincere” and pragmatic or verbally offensive.

    • EPGAH

      What is the solution for SJWs then?

    • EPGAH

      Usually the best cure for SJWs is to be attacked by the scum they constantly defend. Did you read what I wrote about Susan Dlott?
      Federal Judge fighting against Racial Profiling, got robbed by the very Blacks she claimed were “unfairly” targeted. I wonder if she was cured of her delusions by seeing the three thugs throw her husband down the stairs? Or if her 911 call complaining of BLACK thugs is a One Time Only display of hypocrisy?

  12. Santoculto

    Phil,
    i think when you play out religion or any other cultural mechanism of behavioral conformity (post ”modernism” is about ideological conformity but not behavioral) and contention in certain society, you will have the explicit manifestation of erstwhile supressed weaknesses of this populations.

    Sweden have greater proportion of incomplete families, as well had happened in most of escandinaivean countries. The problem, seems, even is not exactly the absence of a paternal figure in the house educating their sons because in Sweden or in other nordic country, although the greater proportion of ‘de-structured’ families, criminality still lower among naivetives.

    • Oh in the case of Polygamy it isn’t the absence of the parent, it’s how polygamy’s impact on that population had resulted in Hormone levels that results in violence.

      And like I said, there are drugs for that.

      • Santoculto

        Yes, polygamic eurasians and more commonly, white caucasians, tend to be more directly violent specially when is combined with lower general intelligence, imagine Donald Trump ”with” two digits iq but the same personality traits. Of course the % of violence among them, polygamic blacks and whites, seems, apparently very different because the evolutionary path of ”black african race”, on average, had been enphasised in hyper-masculinity. We have more developed psycho-polygamic traits in black men (or subgroups of them and generally in less intensity) than in other groups. Look ”anecdotally” for ”nice guys” who tend to finish single.

        • Yep, that’s pretty much the sort of it. I just find it weird though is how it was in E2 rather than T.

          Actually, now that I think about, it starts to make sense when you consider that Blacks are slight more r selected based on T distribution and Lifespans.

          Mainly, focus on the T. Due to a more R select environment, T at earlier parts of ages are only going to be an advantage for so long. Therefore, having an edge with another Hormone that produces similar effects but is maintained longer through out life could’ve been that extra edge thus explain the differences.

      • Jason Y

        How about the idea that maybe crack cocaine, introduced in poor areas in the US, and maybe even in Brazil, has wrecked the family structure, leading to polygamy and one parent homes?

  13. EPGAH

    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2013/11/14/everything-i-know-about-race-i-learned-in-the-seventh-grade-by-hizzle/

    This is an amazing article. It illustrates the problem the Civilized World has with the Evil Magic Word “Racist”–the VICTIM can be made to apologize and even pay the thieves, in exchange for…not being called racist for pointing out the Black is the problem!

    • Advanced anal negrology

      Westerners love to call blacks niggers. This is non PC. They call Indians curry niggers. This is non PC. They call the chosen people of al lah, Arabs and Muslims, sand niggers. This is non PC. When will westerners start adopting PC standards of behaviour?

      • Jason Y

        If people got a glance at some of the white trash I see in Appalachia, they’d realize “sub-human” comes in all colors. So many times Iv’e seen grown men or women, well I might not might seeing the women, showing thier ass crack at a public library of all places !!

        I’m not saying this to be funny. It’s actually what Iv’e seen.

        • Jason Y

          Hey maybe thier just white nationalists and their telling the liberals to “kiss thier ass” HA HA. Maybe they’re really retarded.

        • EPGAH

          But even the “subhuman” of Appalachia are PEACEFUL! No stores burnt and looted, no Ferguson or even Katrina-type events, right?
          They’re mutated, but they behave.

  14. Santoculto

    Many blacks, specially in the past, have suffered by real racism, as well every people. Tribalism is one of the most important piece of conservatism, starting by families and finish by ”nations” or ”peoples”.

    Today, both real racism anti-black, in other words, without any rational justification (and most part of times, based on generalizations), and real racism anti-white, are being used to divide ”people”. ”Media” should informe people but….

    • Jason Y

      Today, both real racism anti-black, in other words, without any rational justification (and most part of times, based on generalizations), and real racism anti-white, are being used to divide ”people”. ”Media” should informe people but….

      No doubt real racism with real justification will lead to racism with no justification, hurt feelings and the like. It’s inevitable. Of course, bad encounters regarding racism can be avoided by hanging with your own kind. However, a lot of people, due to various situations, have to deal with unfriendly people. You can be a tough guy and ignore it, but nobody really likes it.

      • EPGAH

        No, we would not mind dealing with others if they could behave.
        But in this backwards world, if you point out what Blacks or Moslem terrorists do wrong, you’re a filthy racist.

        If you bang on against Christians, especially whites, that’s somehow “progress”.
        http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/21/muslim-rape-gang-found-guilty-abusing-white-girl/
        Pointing this out is evil.
        http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/12/21/miss-puerto-rico-suspended-anti-muslim-tweets
        Even Miss Puerto Rico is forced to recant!

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/21/obama-defends-black-lives-matter-sometimes-progress-little-uncomfortable/
        Black Lies Matter and their anti-cop, anti-commerce campaigns are “progress”–for some definition of the term I really don’t want to recognize.
        We can’t “avoid” them by hanging with our own kind, they’re in our country and trying to change it for the worse. Liberals can AFFORD to support this shit, because they have armed bodyguards.

        The rest of us? Sucks to be us, I guess.

      • EPGAH

        https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/12391193_1108547709185843_4928651324293359660_n.jpg?oh=4a32ecdcc3c10600ae793c2a2988a71c&oe=571FDBD5
        This is the current situation of “racism”. If we protect ourselves from these animals, WE are the racists, not the ones acting in a way that NEEDS to be protected against. How do you justify that?

      • Jason Y

        No, we would not mind dealing with others if they could behave.
        But in this backwards world, if you point out what Blacks or Moslem terrorists do wrong, you’re a filthy racist.

        Asking people to behave comes across as arrogance, especially when your on their land. Even in regards to non-whites in white lands, they won’t listen to white nationalist cries of “behave” cause they see the hypocrisy of the speaker.

        • Jason Y

          Also parts of the US are generally non-white areas, so any “blah blah blah” on the part of a white nationalist just makes him seem like a bitch, because, again, it isn’t a white area.

          Iv’e tried to reason with people of different races, but unless they really like you, it falls on deaf ears, usually you end up getting your ass kicked, and if your lucky, only a lot of mockery. Well, I was wrong, usually just a lot of mockery, but it can lead to death or an ass kicking or fucking lol.

        • Jason Y

          It’s so easy to get on the bad side of people, white or non-white. A lot of people view certain places, especially schools, as I was a teacher, to be their territory. So they get angry when anyone pisses them off, and they will bully them bringing up every bit of racist stuff they can think of.

        • Jason Y

          “All the world’s a prison” as Shakesphere said. The world’s tough and hard. and it’s all about territory. So why would non-whites listen to white nationalists, or why would a tribalistic group of white high schoolers listen to a black nationalist etc.. ??

          They won’t. They just see you as a bitch.

        • EPGAH

          What hypocrisy exactly? If they don’t behave according to our laws, they’re an occupying army, right? Are you admitting force is truly the only thing that can keep the savages in line?

      • Santoculto

        A lot of black people look very unfriendly to me. Of course, whites and others also look like that because i’m a outsider. But, the differences are very significative because this whites and others, east asians and mixed race who behaving ”less negro”, will tend to be apathetic with me (as well as they tend to be with unknown people), while a lot of blacks will be very aggressive… specially because i’m very different than him. Generally, ”working class whites” have a lot of common with blacks as well average creative people. I no have any similarity with the average black and this will be understood by many them as well by me as intractable incompatibility. Of course there are this phenotypes in other races and there are other phenotypes who will be incompatible too, but the combination of extraversion and lack of empathy will be, generally, nasty for most people, include many blacks who are not like that.

        Many of these blacks who suffer by justifiable racism are selfish, nasty and hypocrite, playing with naivety and emotions of normal-tard people to gain pity and possibly correlated advantages. People said that ”because their race”, but every accusation of bad behavior have a fundamental ”mental race” spectrum called anti-social personality.

        ”Liberal” (”yellow east” or iddish) media seems exaggerate enormously the racism today, fundamentally the ”white racism” to eliminate phyisically and slowly the white people, or not so slowly if ‘they”’ want a new world conflict and as communist political (and very nasty) approach, cause conflicts, destroying every cohesion of their ”enemies”,

        Real racism or prejudice is the over-generalization at individual level, put every individual in the same boat ”just’ because certain trait. For example,

        ”blacks are overrepresented in non- ”relevant”- white collar crime”

        racist way to be interpreted

        ”(all) blacks are overrepresented in non-relevant-white collar crime… BLACK RACE is savage” many to most people will understand it as ”every individual blacks are savage and or criminal”… and people who say it probably think like that.

        is implicit that you are over-generalizing at individual level what is clearly at collective level and despising exceptions.

        to be complete or wise fair…

        First justice = indeed, black race have higher proportion of low-level criminous people if compared with many other groups,

        Second justice or right observation = this proportion is caused by combination of genetics and environmental or trigger-social factors, but specially by genetic factors, because as happened with many other animals, morality IS inherited, of course, among humans, because we are not ”divines”, ”sons of god”, ”with a soul”,

        third justice or right (possible conclusive) observation= violence is not synonimous for black race, just correlational, very correlational BUT is not fixed, even actual fixed trait is not fixed forever. You can change the average nature of populations just by changing their mate patterns. You can have many situations, for example, roma gypsies look more proportionally nasty than blacks, but even with them, you can change them if ”we” enphasise ”domestic-like” behavioral traits,

        Look for the human ”history” we can conclude that probably very few human populations had done intrusive and selective enphasis as humans had done with many non-human animals and plants resulting in domestications.

        fourth justice or right observation = one of the most important. Virtuous exceptions in this specific evolutionary context need to be exalted, extremely important……. this attitude is the put right weight to the things. ”but”, at least for me, very few people even in the less problematic races deserve this care. Wise or behaviorally perfecctionist people who should deserve it. Despising extremely common faults, still this separation of essential correlations is a right (wise) thing to do.

        • Santoculto

          The difference to be just like a sheep or puppet and to be a real human being is when you anticipate the problems and NOT TO BE MANIPULATED.

  15. Jason Y

    One parent homes don’t cause dysfunctional “punk” children? The so called “race realists” are so much tied to thier doctrine they can’t see the obvious. Of course, one parent homes aren’t the only thing causing a problem, but rest assured, where it exists, it is the major problem.

    • Jason Y

      Jason, of course, ignores this data and instead claims that One parent homes are the issue. Well actually it’s quite opposite, because One parent homes are actually a typical symptom of polygamous social development. The issue is the excess of serotonin and lower IQ sadly leaving them a dual risk of being aggressive with weaker impulse control.

      Whatever, the fact remains it is still one parent homes. Anywhere one parent homes come about, for whatever reason they come about, it becomes the main thing causing angry “punk” children and teenagers.

      As for IQ, it, itself, isn’t the main thing causing behavior problems, as many gentle low IQ people abound.

      Now looking at santo-culto’s home of Brazil, I don’t know exactly what’s causing the crime in the favelas etc.., but I’m sure, looking at the envioronment, that obviously, it is the environment. As in India and somewhat in the US, the ruling elite wants to keep the poor blacks locked up in a sadistic zoo.

      • Jason Y

        Perhaps hormone imbalances exist with blacks, but ultimately aggression comes down to how they were raised. Raised without a father, the kids grow up punk, cause as commenter Tulio pointed out, kids are not afraid of their mother.

        • True….as an environmental stressor.
          A stressor would be the catalysts to release it. Hormone imbalance is what CAUSES the potential to be extremely violent.

        • But after being sick to death arguing with you, fine.

          I would recommend something along the line of intervening with poor envionments but poor environments have a limited impact on a person potential.

          Genetic, however, do.

        • Jason Y

          Genetics could be a first reason, but it won’t amount to much without a bad environment.

        • Jason Y

          Blacks in the US and probably Brazil were bred to be strong and aggressive, unless they’re put in a good environment, those same traits which lead to excellent “cotton or sugar picking” skills, can lead to massive violence.

          Ok, sorry I did a “Jimmy the Greek” here.

        • “Genetics could be a first reason, but it won’t amount to much without a bad environment.”

          I would alter that to “it won’t be as bad.” Even then, that I speculate it would not only the removal of a bad environment but actual therapy with said emotions to get better results.

          Two parents assistance would consistently provide protection on average, though once these individuals are on there own they will sink or swim according to there potential.

          Those who you speak of that will succeed will likely be the ones who have the ability to “change”, or in other words being neutral in terms of impulse control. Those who can’t gain it later in there lives will sink.

  16. Jason Y

    A lot of scientific work is being thrown in to explain common sense stuff. Kids are raised without a father, so they grown up punk, as they aren’t afraid of thier mama. Plain and simple common sense, and stats by online magazines like the Economist confirm, for instance, where it says two thirds of “bad blacks” in South Africa came from one parent homes.

    Of course, a white person would grow up punk in the same situation, but maybe not be as aggressive as they don’t have same genetic makeup as blacks. Also, a white person, since they don’t have the negative environment of blacks, might not grow up punk. They could even grow up homosexual. But I’m not trying to bash gays or the gay lifestyle. Note Elton John grew up with a distant father.

    • Jason Y

      Imagine your growing up in shit-hole favela or projects (in the US). It’s all poor and the only manly influences a father-less child has is drug dealers and the like. What’s going to happen probably?

    • Okay, that is the most sensible thing you have said. And it only took +100 arguments to bring that out of you.

      • Santoculto

        Fathers just will have a impact, aka, control (spectrum) about their sons if the reciprocity were true, ”passive-agressive” stuff. fathers are naturally spectacular to convince SOME types of people to cooperate with them. All interpersonal interaction can be mediated by this ”passive-agressive” ratio.If ”emotionally’ gifted young people were put alone, without their fathers, is likely that they will tend to be good to manage this situation while emotionally handicapped people will tend to be worst…. but even with two parents.

        To analyse behavioral trends you need analyse preferably at long term and looking for details, specially because many people are incubated anti-‘social”. You have of course a spectrum among greater vulnerability to express or engage into a high-risk anti-social behavior to virtually none risk AND a lot of people will be localized in the middle of this spectrum. In fact, we live in partial to predominant evil cultures, of course, based on novel human moral parameters that follow increasing of self awareness (fundamental human intelligence).

  17. Jason Y

    The problem with blacks is definitely neglect. A large population bred (in slavery days) to have hyper-masculine traits are placed in a poor environment. However, the price of the neglect is massive crime and violence.

    Of course, even blacks not bred, as in South Africa or the rest of Africa, have genetic quarks which require a good environment, but somebody has to make a good environment for them. However, who has the money or power to do so?

  18. Jason Y

    Yeah, whites either have to build a good environment for blacks, deport them (which is essentially just dumping problems on someone else which is morally wrong), or kill them (as in the holocaust). With a bad environment, nothing will change, as the blacks, given the genetic predisposition toward crime and violence, cannot do well.

    • Advanced anal negrology

      Jason y you should drop this right wingery. I mean do you not feel a slight embarrassment at suggesting a holocaust for blacks?

      Only the extreme left wing can help you my friend.

      • Jason Y

        The far right especially with it’s immoral and ridiculous ideas about beauty (race mixing hatred) and treatment of the handicapped (aka murder them, mock them in a cruel fashion) turn me off obviously.

        Most stuff put out by the far right can be as ridiculous as stuff put out by the far left, example, “Men chopping off their weiners is a cool and positive trend.” lol Of course, note transgender is something people choose, on the other hand, people who are mixed race are born with the condition, not saying race mixing is bad though.

  19. Jason Y

    Perhaps whites could keep all blacks as house servants, especially in the US. That would improve the environment for them. However, WNs have already stated they want to preserve their own culture. They don’t want to have nothing to do with them. However, without intervention like that, it’s unlikely the environment for blacks will improve.

    What I said may sound funny or a joke, but really, probably keeping a mass number of them in the household like on the TV show “Different Strokes” would have a massive positive impact.

    • Jason Y

      Definitely, generally speaking, the problem with blacks is neglect from whites,even with a black president. Whites don’t have ot keep blacks as household servants, but they could “neglect” blacks less, and try to help them on a more “personal level” apart from welfare.

      But it ain’t going to happen with most whites, and especially with white nationalists. Now way.

      • Jason Y

        It’s kind of like somebody saying “Here is a lot of cash. Now stay the hell away from me!” That’ s the white attitude, even with hypocritical liberals, about blacks.

    • EPGAH

      Didn’t we have some kind of Civil War or something where 600,000 of us DIED to stop having them as house servants?

      And also remember, what is progress for us, is NOT the kind of progress they want: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/21/obama-defends-black-lives-matter-sometimes-progress-little-uncomfortable/

      • Jason Y

        Most of the blacks were not house servants at the time. Of course, the black on black crime was wiped out and they may have lived better than in Africa (and probably better than in a modern US prison), but they weren’t pampered in any sense, with whippings to boot.

        • Jason Y

          The massive defections to the northern lines during the war showed they didn’t like working in the cotton fields etc.. despite the fact the disciplined life did have some benefits. Perhaps they resented the beatings and also the lack of freedom of movement.

        • Jason Y

          But then again, the blacks could have defected to northern lines cause they ran out of food. Nonetheless, I don’t think people would want to be a field hand. Especially considering all the bullwhips etc..

  20. Jason Y

    Of course, in regards to Brazil, it’s interesting to note the indifference by the middle and upper classes is so great, that street kids are murdered by paid armed thugs.

    • Jason Y

      As noted in the Pink Floyd album, “The Wall”, people build walls to shelter themselves from unpleasant things, whether street kids being murdered, or just the problem of poverty in general. In the USA or even worse in Brazil, people just move into a richer neighborhood where they don’t have to think about stuff, and they don’t have to watch the news.

      • EPGAH

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/20/one-person-killed-37-taken-to-hospital-after-car-crashed-into-pedestrians-in-las-vegas/
        Black thug runs over a bunch of pedestrians on purpose.
        Is this a Hate Crime, that we need to put up a wall against? Or just random violence?

        You’re right, it’s “racist” to deal with it, it’s better to run. Two things prevent that:

        1.) Money. It costs MONEY to move. Those of us who can’t afford to move are just abandoned to the Horde, I guess? Sucks to be them–including ME! These people get ever more “racist” as they get more and more exposed to the scum that people with walls and bodyguards can pretend doesn’t exist.
        1.) b.) Don’t get me wrong, those who live outside the Wall can ALSO be delusional, just they don’t live too long. The autopsy forms don’t have a space long enough for “Surprised that thug shot him even though he was one of the self-proclaimed ‘good’ Anti-Racists”, so they just forge Cause Of Death as “Gunshot Trauma”
        2.) Eventually, you run out of places to move TO!

        • Jason Y

          Black thug runs over a bunch of pedestrians on purpose.
          Is this a Hate Crime, that we need to put up a wall against? Or just random violence?

          Perhaps the thug was buying into all the “subliminal hate”. People everywhere hate. The Germans bought into anti-Jewish propoganda. White people buy into “anti-Mexican” propoganda. etc..Korean schoolchildren view Japanese as subhuman monsters who deserve a machine gun, even 50 years after World War II.

        • Jason Y

          1.) Money. It costs MONEY to move. Those of us who can’t afford to move are just abandoned to the Horde, I guess? Sucks to be them–including ME! These people get ever more “racist” as they get more and more exposed to the scum that people with walls and bodyguards can pretend doesn’t exist.

          But then again it boils down to the education thing often layed at non-whites. Did certain whites gain enough vocational or academic education early on to gain good enough jobs so they’d have enough money to “get out” before an area got too dangerous?

          I know a friend, who is sympathetic toward white nationalism, a country boy kind of guy, a man’s man. He’s my age, around 40, and he delivers pizzas while his wife works at a grocery store. Considering his massive intellegence, couldn’t this man do better? What excuse is there? I can only think of perhaps high education cost, but it can probably be overcome.

        • Jason Y

          Cost of a community college education (vocational or academic) is around 5,000 a year in Minnesota as one example. So if somebody spends wisely and doesn’t waste, they could make enough money to get a two year degree with 10,000 and get a job which allows an income which allows one to escape shitty neighborhoods.

          ,

          2.) Eventually, you run out of places to move TO!

          Give me a break. Ghetto type non-whites don’t live everywhere.

  21. Santoculto

    What is the percent of crime INTRA-racial** Specially among jews** (and ashkeNAZIS).

    • Jason Y

      Did the Jews hire private police forces to kill street children? Seems like this behavior was promoted by right wing Latin Americans who hate Jews.

      If the Jewish solution to the race problem is so bad, then how come Latin American nations, despite tons of right wing governments, have been unable to do better?

  22. Kareem

    One thing i’ve always noticed as a an internet addict is that while Black Dysfunction is talked about endlessly on the interment, viable solutions to it are very rarely talked about.

    White nationalist and alt right rhetoric makes me cringe, not because of the problems they point, but the solutions they offer to these problems–usually some form of forcefully deporting all black people or quarantining all black people into ghettos.

    Ironically, these are the same people who talk about how morally and ethically superior white people are, while they in their tight communities of white people spend hours spewing nothing but hatred and inhumane solutions to these problems.

    • May I ask if you are Black yourself, Kareem?

    • This I noticed too. These types, while they often talk about the brilliance of whites, don’t use such brilliance in consistency with their claims of moral superiority.

      These people general lean to the side of clannishness and are by nature more prone to be moral emotional. However, I find it important to add that these types aren’t all the same and that considering how many of them had witnessed and experienced the effects of dysfunction there emotional take on the situation isn’t completely unfounded.

      Still, their tactics on this situation is of course in little regard to “okay” Blacks because of the dysfunctional blacks in there minds being the representative people. Honestly, I think it is a mix in what would be the representative “Negro” at least a U.S one but where I can agree with them is that there are too many regardless of representation.

      If you are curious of a solution, my MAOA comments here and on “Are Black people stupid” talks about how MAOA contributes to Black violence. However, I want to eradicate any misconception of my goals.

      My idea is that we would have institutions similar to ones we already have for anger management or rehabilitation but focuses on the effect of MAOA. This doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s only for Blacks, but there is a chance that Blacks will be common patients.

      It is ideally voluntary, exceptions being court sentences (a practice that is already present to keep in mind).

      This could reduce Black crime by a certain amount, though not all when you consider that IQ contributes to over half of Blacks’ disproportionate crime. However, to prevent this, I’ve research African methods on disciplining children that could work on Black children, though they are admittedly extreme to certain points so some modern takes should be done.

      Behavioral variation is another aspect that one should look for. While I’ve seen Blacks who may’ve been not so bright, they weren’t either vegetables or thugs. Another observation is how church Blacks seem to be rather functional, and perhaps Black church communities can be places as forums for ways to discuss Black uplift in a more widespread manner.

      • Jason Y

        I think the best solution is to simply clean up existing bad black neighborhoods in the USA and Brazil using the police, but somehow get the police to be on the side of the blacks.

        However, ultimately, that won’t happen because the US and Brazillian governments etc.. put blacks in ghettoes on purpose. Think about it. If they really wanted to clean up the worst neighborhoods, they could.

        However, the drug trade, prison industrial complex etc.. are all done on purpose. The government is in on it.

        • Santoculto

          The ”little” problem is that both governments are not morally correct (very very far to be) to decide by themselves how proceed because both governments (and others) are (firstly) directly guilty by this situations!!!

      • Jason Y

        Black church communities cannot be bullied by the US government, as the weak blacks are. The weak blacks are poisoned by purposely introduced cocaine, among other things.

        The main goal of the drug use is to destabalize black communities, among others including some white ones, to control them.

        Let’s look at the 60s riots. The causes were the fact the elites were taking out jobs. The blacks rioted, and the elite got worried. Finally the elite class decided that hooking blacks on powerful drugs caused them to lose focus, and take thier eyes off the elite class.

        Unlike what ep-gah might say. Blacks didn’t riot in the 60s for stupid reasons.

        Even where I live it seems meth and pill use is running rampant in poor neighborhoods, and it seems like the government while condeming it, secretly likes it, as it controls segments of the population who are losers, people who might be prone to revolution.

    • Jason Y

      The WN solutions may not be that inhumane, even though the people who propose them are incredibly immoral and evil. A black nation in the US might work, or maybe even an African colony of blacks (but I’m guessing the black nation in the US would work better)

      However, most white people and black people together don’t want the white nationalist solution cause they don’t like white nationalists. They are repulsed by their ideology.

      Anyhow, even in the US today, without seperate nations, black and white folks tend to live seperate, go to church seperate to some extent.

      Of course, there is some fallacy in liberal thinking. If non-whites hate white racism, then why are non-whites to some extent racist? Why do they want to be among thier own group (to some extent, not totally) ?

      • Santoculto

        There is some fallacy in liberal thinking…

        just some fallacy….

        ”i’m a independent thinker”

        Jay.

        • Santoculto

          Average white nationalists OR any other nationalists are brutally logical and by certain important perspectives, rightly ‘honest”.

          Many (to most) leftoid academics ALSO ARE very repulsive people but as they are officially superior people and with equally official narrative, most people simply don’t realize how incongruent, contraditory, nasty AND dangerous they can be.

          Any person who engage in ignorance look and become repulsive.

  23. Dave Mowers

    Robert,

    When will you leave racism, as a topic, alone?

    When will you focus on what draws people to you; your intelligence? People are coming here because you are smart and offer real dialogue beyond the internet memes. Stop the baiting. You are admired.

    P.S. I want to write a blog topic for your blog.

    *for the public’s interest me and Robert do not get along as mates apparently; apparently I am a dick.

  24. Jason Y

    It all boils down to respect, white nationalists don’t have the respect of non-whites, so why would they listen to them? It’s tough enough getting non-whites to respect moderate white conservatives.

    Same goes with groups of whites. Rural whites might be distrustful of black nationalists, so why would they listen to them?

    This kind of tribalism seems to be the same everywhere. So ep-gah and others whine and say blacks won’t listen to them. They say, “Oh, if only they would be good negroes and listen to the white man.”.

    However, the new trend (or is it new?) is to view with distrust anyone who enslaves and colonizes somebody. For instance, when will the east Indians realize how great the British were and start sucking thier dick? “Well they’re waiting.” LOL

    Nowadays, the anti-colonial feeling is so strong it’s even tougher to get middle and upper class people to side with so called “former colonial oppressors”.

    Now, yeah some of the hatred of white people or any other “outside group” with power is often wrong. Often, it’s just a form of hypocritical bullying.

  25. Jason Y

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_riots

    Seems what the article is saying that the defense industries died down after the war, so massive unemployment came in and gradually peaked in the 60s and contributed to the Watts riots.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot

    Seems to be the same thing with the Detroit riot, as a lot of automakers fired blacks first in cutbacks at thier factories after World War II

    Has ep-gah and others looked at root causes of the riots which seem to give his white nationalist rants justification?

    • Jason Y

      Also how would all the mumbo-jumbo that I wrote have anything to do with Jews? Did Jews fire blacks first before whites at auto and defense plants? Seems to be white racism working it’s hand here. So blacks don’t have a right to be frustrated, or even riot?

    • Jason Y

      Another thing, aren’t all revolutions riots? If we are going to condemn black rioting, then shoudn’t we also condemn “The American Revolution”? I mean, what were the Americans bitching about so much, they resort to killing people? A tax on tea? LOL

      White nationalists want to kill and forment a revolution. Aren’t they being hypocritical condemning black attempts at mass violence?

    • Jason Y

      Ultimately, it seems also an education problem, as the blacks have no skills to replace lost factory jobs. However, that seems to be a case now with everyone, as factory jobs have all been outsourced to the third world.

      Michael Moore can talk all he wants about auto jobs etc.. and the cocksuckers who took them out. However, are the workers at auto plants etc.. so dim witted that “all they can do is build cars”? Shouldn’t education come into the picture?

  26. Tulio

    What non-white countries are blacks showing up en masse? I’m not aware of any great migration of blacks happening anywhere on earth right now. There’s a relative few that head into southern Europe as refugees, and a few that have made their way to China to work. But beyond that, what nations are we talking about? Is there a wave of black immigration to another non-white society similar to the scale we have with say Mexicans coming to the USA where entire major cities have turned majority Mexican due to the immigration?

    • Russia, France, Norway, Finland, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, and China.

      And all of those countries are complaining about them too. Granted most are Africans such as Nigerians and Somalis and not you guys. I really do think you Af-Ams act quite a bit better than Somalis and Nigerians.

      • Tulio

        Probably has a lot to do with the nature of those coming in. When you get impoverished refugees and the most desperate, you get a lot of undesirables with that group. People who are there not because they love their new country or want to assimilate but for survival reasons. Immigrants that are and skilled are well-behaved and solid contributors. But at the same time, these people need to stay home and help develop their own nations since they are the ones most fit to do it.

  27. Tulio

    Another thing, just because there is prejudice in the culture doesn’t mean that everyone who is a target of that prejudice is going to feel the brunt of it. Now take a country like Korea. You can pretty well guess what Koreans would likely think of blacks. But I was watching this black English teacher tell her story about living in Korea and it seems she enjoyed the experience immensely and didn’t seem to have any problems with racism.

  28. Santoculto

    Religions or other re-tard-ment, USE real good morality for their political (totalitarian) goals. Egalitarianism is one them, a global religion that enforce human equality to destroy cultures & peoples, less a certain tiny ”country(club)”.

    I’m not against evolution of human mentality with the replacement of geographically contextual faith or beliefs BY moral objectivity or basically REAL wisdom. I’m against lies created exactly to destroy this needed collective REAL evolution, what is happening now.

    globalist-tards are using ”blacks” as biological weapon to create ”vibrant” brazils around the world, the mixed race people here, many to most them, infantile, easily distracted and unable to understand the basic of truth, brutal, perfect to become a new slave mark, the ”consumer”. In the world where peace is war, lies is truth, most certainties which are constantly ”socialized” (like a mass, but the tv is the altar) by ”media” are very likely to be partial to predominant wrong.

    ”The best” way to lie is mixing pieces of truth and lies together. If averages neurotypicals tend to be lazy to capture relatively easy informations, we will try to understand how precise they will tend to be to capture mixed facts and factoids. It’s a mental massacre.

    • Jason Y

      Really? Mix truth and lies? Isn’t that what white nationalism does? Even going so far as to make commentary on “in the eye of the beholder” stuff like beauty? Or how about white nationalism praising of the high virtue of mocking people in wheelchairs?

    • Jason Y

      globalist-tards are using ”blacks” as biological weapon to create ”vibrant” brazils around the world, the mixed race people here, many to most them, infantile, easily distracted and unable to understand the basic of truth, brutal, perfect to become a new slave mark, the ”consumer”. In the world where peace is war, lies is truth, most certainties which are constantly ”socialized” (like a mass, but the tv is the altar) by ”media” are very likely to be partial to predominant wrong.

      HA what a load of mythology and white nationalist paranoia. Most white people where I live date whites. Generally white people date whites wherever you see them. There isn’t any threat from mixed raced people.

      >globalist-tards are using ”blacks” as biological weapon to create ”vibrant” brazils around the world, the mixed race people here, many to most them, infantile, easily distracted and unable to understand the basic of truth, brutal, perfect to become a new slave mark,

      Can you prove these remarks with actual accounts or science?

    • Jason Y

      I don’t buy into any “created mixed race robots” thing. However, I do think the elites are pushing drugs on poor neighborhoods in the USA, and maybe Brazil. The main goal of such introduction is to destabalize the people so they won’t revolt.

      Does being mixed race make a person more likely to take drugs? No, but being poor does, as it’s a big escape.

    • Jason Y

      It’s odd santo-culto hates religion, cause his “mixed race” conspiracy thing sounds similar to “End of Days” teaching by white identity churches. In the white identity version, the “Mark of the Beast”, would be handed out easily to so called (I didn’t say it) “ugly mixed raced morons” who would gladly take it.

  29. Jason Y

    Actually, it’s not surprising globalists would hate racism. Is that a bad thing? Well, for one thing, racism isn’t good for business, unless your selling Confederate flags or something. Generally speaking you don’t want to offend customers, and racism will certainly do it. If you want to make a lot of people angry, fast, then say something racist.

  30. Jason Y

    quote by phil

    If they mixed with whites, they will perceive themselves as mixed race or African American because they will likely have prominent African features that don’t “vanish”. Also, en masse mixing can lead to more health problems due to difference races having different genetic medical traits.

    Not true. It isn’t the same as inbreeding which is proven to be bad.

    • If you know anything about en masse race mixing, what it can lead to is more compounded health effects due to medical differences that exist between races.

      And also Jason, considering you have shown utter incompetence in the field of racial science, I wouldn’t make such a dubious statement without a link.

      Also, based on the link that I gave Johnny, the crime rate for mixed race children, like Black mixed for example have higher cases of anti-social behavior than either White or Blacks.

      This I’ll hand over to you to be a likely case of environmental spurred pathology. It’s a identity complex because they will likely catch on to that they are not quite either one. Ben stated something similar.

      Is this ALWAYS the case, of course not but a likely consequence. I’ve actually read something similar to WEB Dubois feeling something similar but it was more like understanding the significance of being Black as opposed to being mixed race amongst his white friends ( he wasn’t allowed to be with White girls).

      Of course while it is determined by perception, the social environments differ between races (plus there is the mixed child’s own innate social behavior) so there for they will likely “sense” something is up.

      What en masse race mixing will do is cause the likelihood of negative effects of race mixing to be higher in occurrence.

      Now you may argue that when race is mixed the behavior will be homogeneous. Well, no. Due to more variation and percentage differences in ancestry as it goes past the first generation of 1/2 you will eventually get colorism likely due to IQ. In other words, due to economic capability differences between races and the highest likelihood to be paired with someone of a an equal economic capability (e.i IQ) it will select for likely those with more European ancestry due to them having higher IQs on average. Thus colorism will take place.

      BTW, I’m not stating ethics here, I advocate people do what they want but at least be aware of possible risks.

    • Also Jason, I don’t believe you’ve ever answer this question properly.

      Ben is more well versed on racial science than many people here, particularly in the sort of “WN” thinking, yet I’ve rarely seen you storm him like you have with Santoculto or EPAGH.

      Explain or debunk me in an example in which you do.

      • Jason Y

        Also, based on the link that I gave Johnny, the crime rate for mixed race children, like Black mixed for example have higher cases of anti-social behavior than either White or Blacks.

        It borderlines so much on pseudoscience. It so halarious it reminds me of some chapter of the movie “The Birth of a Nation”. So the good retarded, mind you, pure bred blacks mated with whites. They turned into wild monsters who couldn’t control themselves due to odd genetic makeup, (but they probably were more intellegent) Come on?

        A lot of this talk against mixed raced people from racists is because they don’t like race mixing. I will do more research to back what I’m saying with real science, but what your saying does strike me as biased.

        Myself, I have met mixed raced blacks, and I can see nothing wrong with them. If they do become bad, it’s probably due to the environment However, mind you, they might actually be BETTER behaved because they have more exposure to white culture and people.

        • Jason Y

          To top it off, mostly racists want to put mixed raced people in the category of “ugly monster mistakes of nature”. That’s very cruel to mixed raced people, and also especially to the children, who were mixed because of thier parents. And finally, the whole thing anyway, is BS on the part of racists when it comes to “race mixing” etc…

          Myself, my sister was teased for having frissy hair. It’s caused massive damage to her, as she grew up becoming a rebel, doing drugs, smoking cigarettes etc.. all because some punk motherfucker racists in Tennessee wanted to pick on her.

        • Alright, I’ll await your research.

      • Jason Y

        Another thing also. A fact that doesn’t need research. African blacks have been seen to be violent as well as the mixed raced Afro Americans. In that case, the connection between “race mixing” and more violence is obviously baloney. Too bad for “A Birth of a Nation”. lol …Guess they got it wrong.

        Alll in all, again it can be said, a lot of stuff said by white nationalists and other race realists is mythology.

        • Jason Y

          Just as much mythology as the Lord of the Rings that ep-gah likes so much.

        • In that case can you point to a source if science that hasn’t been debunked that refutes the “mythology” of race realists?

          If not, then it would prove that you are just saying this out of sheer denial/snark/stupidity.

          Ask me for a source, I’ll show you. Say I’m, I’ll prove I’m right. Take something I said out of context, I’ll correct you on your continuous intellectual dishonesty.

          That’s pretty much all I’ve been doing as opposed to you, arguing via basically putting “LOL!” in sentence form and making dubious statements.

          It takes me, what, about 2-5 minutes to find a source. It’s been days since you gave me research for your side.

          Jason, lets just say that you are actually serious when you argue on the cause and effect of Black Pathology, you’re only hurting yourself by sloppily degenerating your own credibility.

          You with only yourself to blame, by persistently ignoring both precise and accurate (yes there is a difference but I suspect you wouldn’t know due to your unfortunate case of being scientifically illiterate) data on racial difference and indications, to give off the impression that you REALLY don’t care about how to solve Black pathology or , at the very least, value your politically correct philosophy more than the cause.

          While I, on the other hand, managed to accept and understand the nature of the circumstance and managed to come up with FAR more coherent and effective methods of decreasing Pathology more than you ever have,
          thus having MORE credibility to being committed to the cause.

        • Santoculto

          Phil,
          just a correction, please, don’t call ”POLITICALLY correct” as a kind of ”philosophy”. Is not, philosophy is quintessentially ”the use of wisdom to think, act and react”. PC is just a pure ideology, a precipited ”discovery” of truth, a ”absolute revelation”, what every culture and religion had done since humans become apt to engage in simple-to-complex abstract thinking.

          The rest, i think we are trying to help Jay-son because he’s thinking that their arguments are very solid and correct when in the reality he’s just repeating, what you said, the current narrative. To help everyone you need accept truth whatever how ”she” is, to, in fact, mitigate, solve AND specially prevent problems. Jay-son think that we are neo-nazis, even many of white nationalists are not neo-nazis. As always happen with leftist crowd, they uber-generalizing and de-humanizing their ”enemies” while accuse them to do the same, but avoid to accept that they are doing exactly the same thing, over-generalizations. A very childish attitude, intelectual dishonesty for example.

          I’m not huge fan of any ideological group = jews, christians, hindus, blacks, whites, iugoslavians, croatians, serbians, autistics, leftists, rightists…. What really matter is always the individual being. Of course we are encapsulated by one reality where the group-conflict is logical and completely expected BUT we need evolve, surpass this stage. Even neo-nazis, many them have a lot of relatively reasonable reasons to act like that. The life is not truly, completely good for most of us, just for complete asssholes, eviltards subhumans. Remember, put in the place of other to understand what s(he) become like that, of course, innate dispositions are very important, but by certain situations and individuals, will not be very preponderant.

        • To santoculto

          I see your point I how to label and address “Politically Correct”, in the right spectrum.

          And true, I always put myself in the place of people I meet, even those who at first come off as my enemies.
          WN’s, though they act and say many things I disagree with, I read more and see there pain.
          While they have answers that are correct, they are not scientists. They often are aware of concepts, but don’t use them carefully as a scientist would.
          On top of that, due to being suppressed from public forum they have a weak separation between rational and Dogmatic types.
          They often come off as hateful, but then as you get to know one more or see more idealogical diversity amongst them you get a better picture of their plight.
          Therefore, whenever I address them I ALWAYS try to distinguish them rather than lazily put them in a false monolith as Jason does instantaneously.

          If I could do the same with Jason……I tried. There were times were I could sympathize with him, but THEN he goes off in an immature frenzy that I couldn’t comprehend on any other level aside from pitiful denial or perhaps delusion.
          To see a contrast, see the new commentor Johnny. He, while I’m unsure if he is completely correct, has displayed more honesty compared to the likes of Jason.
          He has came further in ONE thread than Jason had in every other post were he shoots his mouth.

          Swank, forgive me if that give you bad memories, is the only person I could think of who could beat Jason in terms of persistence.
          The only difference was that Swank at least “pretend” to act scientific while Jason bares an obvious lack of familiarity with the topics yet he tries to anyway by either dubious means or taking the ideas of others out of context (even mine) and uses it more like a security blanket than evidence,

          You know what I find funny? He has insulted you and EPAGH yet I don’t recall him being rude to me directly in the same mocking way.

          Could it be because he has…….some persistent Kaffir sympathy for me? I find that actually quite hilarious that he possess that attribute from the extreme left to not really make people “like me” equal but put me on a pedestal.

  31. Santoculto

    Phil,
    average AND MOST of lefttwing people are completely idiotic, is very sad to me accept this reality, because since i start to follow hb-d-sphere, i internalize the popular idea among them that ”many leftoids-because their supposed and very possible higher average iqs- are very vulnerable to develop typical excessive abstract thinking”…. ”stuff SMARTER people like”…

    It’s not ”’engagement in abstract thinking”, every religion have their excess in abstract thinking, via proto-reality (leftoidism) or magical thinking. People are putting ”abstractions” at the bad light.

    I”M NOT conservatoid, for many reasons. Conservatoid people dislike me because i don’t act how they do like. With increasing of ”reactionary” wave we are seeing what is being surpressed, the brutally (relatively) logical ”right” mindset. Most of my potential friends will be leftwingers, but leftism is a certification of idiocy.

    One of my reasons to avoid completely the unilateral theory of quasi-perfection of iq tests is exactly because a lot of, a bunch of smart-iq people are leftwingers, and not so surprising now, many of very iq-smart.( some them also will be very rightwinger).

    Great part of time, leftoids on average don’t know what they are talking about in debates, they just repeat a diverse pieces of very superficial knowledges and unknowledges, without any structure, any logical basis. To me is a literal torture read this crap. Is easy desconstruct OR construct coehrence in many of their opinions, very very easy.

    Phil,
    i internalize, negotiate -very easy- most of the ”polemic” stuff about racial diversity OR differences. Even when i know ‘the truth’ i respect, obviously, individual who deserve to be respected. They think this reality is disgusting, and become very histerical. Exactly religious people become angry when non-religious people show the simple reality of some facts like ”mohammed, jesus, buddha, etc weren’t son of God” or ”Miracles must have a logical explanation”. The leftoids seems to be completely puppets of their master minds, it is very clear to me now. They are not ”innerly” pro-social justice, like me or you. Subconsciously, they don’t know ”measure” their own impact of their attitudes, because useful idiots are firstly destitute by partial-to-complete self-knowledge (the logical eovlution of self awareness), they don’t know what is their weaknesses.

    We believe because their infiltration of commander social centers that ”they” are ”SMARTER”. We mistake power with intelligence while intelligence in their purity of actions will be more likely to be a wisdom, a decanted intelligence. Take the power, of course, recquire intelligence, but the best answer is completely far to be like what happening now in the ”accident” or ”occident”.

    Yes Phill,
    leftoids are also on average cowards. Don’t think they like you by true. If their master minds induce them to hate blacks i do no doubt if they starting hate you.

  32. Advanced anal negrology

    For me the left and the right in their western manifestation are racist. We see left wing racism taking to task places like India because they have bad infrastructure and blacks due to the ghetto crime and jews due to middle eastern politics. Rightwing racism is focused on Jews and Arabs, but they do have a soft spot for the Japanese.

    The only way out of the leftwing rightwing racist paradigm in its western manifestation is an extreme left wing ideology which stamps down via political correctness or in other parts of the world with an iron first on any racist sentiment whatsoever.

    Political correctness is a true conceptual breakthrough in this area.

  33. I see your point. based on the weaknesses I sense from the two groups, the lack of the grasp of wisdom and acknowledgement of the individual are important virtues.

    As to your internalizing and rationalizing, I see your point too. What I do is put it into a context that they understand, like your difference bewteen mental and physiological race. However, even then, it’s typically with people with an ability to understand and accept the current situation with blacks with the re Jason being on their part of not achieving.

    Internalizing and rationalizing racial difference is something I must do if I wanted to stay in this game, typically keeping gene frequencies in mind.

    Though from reading it seems there is too much of wisdom I have yet to truly understand though I believe I have a footing.

    • Santoculto

      What you don’t truly understand*

      • Well, I think I can norrow it down to two things

        Experience with various people to really apply the skills you speak of.
        Not reading ENOUGH literature on human psychology and rationalizing/applying to reality as you do.

        Honestly, I’m not as strong of a reader as I used to. When I was in middle school I could blow through science books and biographies but now I’m to accustomed to simply reading science article and sections of PDF’s.

        So I think it isn’t not understanding what the concept of wisdom is, I think it’s really me having trouble to articulate that mindset and really KNOW it to your level.

        I do believe I have a capacity of wisdom and utilize it but I don’t believe it is as “sophisticated” as you will, as yours.

        • Santoculto

          Well, i’m not a super reader, i hate read books, just those ”who” are very interesting for me, the rest… my mania start at ideational stage, while many people start their manias at action levels like read texts or paint. I’m dragged by my ideas, write a great book is quasi-impossible for me, because i still rationalize and reflect the ego-importance to write a book if in the ultimate hour, will be irrelevant.

          What you write here i thought you are a wise guy, a very rare cognitive style, seems most people are predominantly irrational.

          Basically, summarizing applied wisdom,

          avoid over-binary thinking, for multiple perspectives. What i do about mental and physical ‘races’ or combinated conditions, overlap of universal traits that produce metamorphic shapes,
          try to extrapolate what you are seeing and connect the dots. The first awareness is physical, sensitve, direct, what we are seeing or feeling, the second level is the observation of coerent and contraditory patterns, those who create our reality or logical structure of existence and so on,
          don’t try to be like me or other people, just like you, what you can contribute firstly for yourself and second for other people, just who are worthy or have potential to be.

          Wisdom is not like genius, wisdom is in all magnitudes, since the little to the higher level, what happen with genuine geniuses. Wisdom is the higher potential to harmonize for everyone, harmonize AND evolve, while genius IS the higher potential itself and is not for everyone, even to harmonize. Wisdom can be ”learned” as culture but not ”to be” like a wise, is just a higher potential. It’s happen because we express what we are and not how many people think, what we see, we are not adaptatives, adaptation generally mean specially for our context, ”act like a high functioning psychopaths”. Adaptation need environment and their circumstances, we are not dependent from environment to be like we are, but for ”adapt”, conform… conformity or manipulate this scenario for own, what high functioning psychos to do.

          Education is essentially conform OR ‘adapt”.

        • This is actually could be a major key in uplifts.

          As I said Black tend have traits to focus more on social aspects of humanity rather than manipulating their physical environment. They lack this sort of comprehension to synchronize with other races (something that would technically require some ability similar to environment manipulation) on a cultural level but they continue to carry traits of there own ways of behavior as well as invest in them. This is was even pointed out in the Mali Empire by Ibn Battuta, disappointed how they didn’t adopt Arab Muslim Behavior as opposed to Berbers. However, they seem to have qualities that he did like

          http://courses.wcupa.edu/jones/his311/lectures/17battut.htm

          This is due to some Blacks being conservative, in the sense that they have like a “rural” sense of civilization though it’s admittedly more crude.

          If culture plays such a role with wisdom as you say, then perhaps a culture of wise concepts as well as selected Blacks could be key elements to my original plan.

          This is not to say that Blacks are the “wisest” race when I talk about their habit of social investing, but rather due to this behavior caused by these traits it could make the path introduction of wisedom could be more influential.

          By selected Blacks, I essentially mean those who can have a reasonable capacity to be disciplined or in other words have “strong” but not destructive personalities as well as an ability to understand ideas. In a way, modern versions of those “conservative blacks” that I spoke of however more modern takes on them that I would select for would be the lack of those elements to be offended by stating the obvious with religious figures as you have said before.

          While I feel I will have better luck with influencing females rather than males, I think I can manage to influence them if I can understand there pattern of thought better.

          The problem with Black males pattern of thinking that I see often is that it’s too narrow to there own interests and they don’t exercise other trains of thoughts outside of those as often as they should.

          I have however read of interesting methods of mothers in Africa “forcing” them put of it.

          Essentially through either threats or insults, things that threaten their interests for comfort, compels them to cooperate.

          THESE I feel must be done at a young age because Blacks, as I have read though both data and ethnography, are said to be smarter at younger ages but slowly become in a sense “dimmer” as they grow older.

        • Though I believe the “dimming effect” varies on the individual Black.

          I for one have not really grown dim, but perhaps more indolent.

          Still, stuff like how children are discipline in that link I shown you (Anecdote page 57) could be key to figuring out MODERN methods of raising Black males (while I’m eager to apply strategies to give results, I wouldn’t want them to be hurt or mentally scared),

          Still, the men will still have a tendency to focus on there ,

      • These things goes with another flaw of mine, being anxious.
        I believe this is derived from innate impulsiveness that many of Black males have.

        It makes it difficult for me to really master a discipline. There are others where my anxiousness does help (some of the art I do) as well as my self reflections, but I believe this is one where I can’t completely “master” if I cannot control my patience.

        Though, I have a impulse modulator in me. It occurs when I too indulged in the pleasure of my impulsiveness tha I sort of force myself to “burn out” and gain control.
        This causes to leap outside of my insanity (basically my state where I convince myself that giving in to my impulses will get my further RATHER than ruin me after time and time again) and try new tradegies.

        So far, I done better socializing but nothing intense enough to really get to understand people, well at least not recently for last year a significant event did happen.

        • Not “new tragedies” but new STRATEGIES. My bad.

        • Santoculto

          People work like every piece of maybe the universe, patterns, because we are part of it, of course.

          What i write here and in my blog is nothing to do entirely with current or known literature, is a complete personal experience to try to understand reality by my point of view first and by the point of view of neutrality or the big landscape, better than ”big picture”. Understand the reality as we understand landscapes just by observations without personal bias, specially in the human context.

        • Thank you. This will be very valuable for me, thank you.

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          It makes it difficult for me to really master a discipline. There are others where my anxiousness does help (some of the art I do) as well as my self reflections, but I believe this is one where I can’t completely “master” if I cannot control my patience.

          Would this be an excuse, like my borderline white nationalist friend who won’t get an vocational or academic education, but prefers to delivers pizzas, at age 40?

          I see so many excuses from race realists, that I find it odd when they talk about “whiny left wingers” who blame “oppression” for every little nitpick thing. Of course, the biggest card is the J card (Jewish).

        • Jason, what you’ve pointed out was hardly of any relevance.

          While you refuse to acknowledge the documented effects of HBD, even you must comprehend the concept of INDIVIDUAL quirks that people have in their personalities that don’t help them.

          What your alledged WN friend is doing is a result of either circumstance or intial lack of skill.

          your getting desperate. whisper voice It’s kind of pathetic!

  34. Jason Y

    Blah, blah, blah, santo-culto and phil, with due respect. I mentioned blacks in Africa were as violent, as Afro Americans, yet you all persist in mythology saying “half breed” blacks were more violent. Well, maybe not santo-culto, but probably he agrees.

    Calling left wingers compassionate idiots and whatnot, is just defecting from the facts, one big one I just mentioned (regarding crime among Africans opposed to African Americans).

    True, I have a personal bias againt race realists due to the abuse of some of them against my family. Nonetheless, let’s still just look a the facts and see if race realism is really “real”. so to speak.

    As for ep-gah, he has mentioned, “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of the Rings” and hence why I brought it up.

  35. Jason Y

    quote by santo-culto

    Basically, summarizing applied wisdom,

    avoid over-binary thinking, for multiple perspectives. What i do about mental and physical ‘races’ or combinated conditions, overlap of universal traits that produce metamorphic shapes,
    try to extrapolate what you are seeing and connect the dots. The first awareness is physical, sensitve, direct, what we are seeing or feeling, the second level is the observation of coerent and contraditory patterns, those who create our reality or logical structure of existence and so on,
    don’t try to be like me or other people, just like you, what you can contribute firstly for yourself and second for other people, just who are worthy or have potential to be.

    Wisdom and knowledge without a heart seems to be the case with most race realists, that is, ones who aren’t dim witted trailer trash. lol

    It’s kind of like what we see with those upper class social darwinists of the Victorian age. But in Brazil and other hell-holes we still see the Victorian age in full glory. For sure.

  36. Jason Y

    quote by santo-culto

    Phil,
    average AND MOST of lefttwing people are completely idiotic, is very sad to me accept this reality, because since i start to follow hb-d-sphere, i internalize the popular idea among them that ”many leftoids-because their supposed and very possible higher average iqs- are very vulnerable to develop typical excessive abstract thinking”…. ”stuff SMARTER people like”…

    This is truth mixed with lies. Yes, some extreme leftoids would be idiotic, considering many of them favor allowing massive immigration into western nations.

    However, even the left wingers who don’t like illegal immigration, will admit that it’s NWO economic policies which are driving the immigration. These certain leftwingers aren’t putting in a lot of supremacist crap to deflect away from the fact NWO is screwing the world.

    • EPGAH

      NWO economic policies? What a wonderful bogeyman to avoid making those countries take responsibility for their own overpopulation, and more importantly, making their problems become their betters’ problems!

  37. Jason Y

    quote by Phil

    Could it be because he has…….some persistent Kaffir sympathy for me? I find that actually quite hilarious that he possess that attribute from the extreme left to not really make people “like me” equal but put me on a pedestal.

    No, it’s because the Brazil is a social darwinist hell-hole, and ep-gah idiotically uses words like “savage” like people from the 1800s would use.

    No, I’m no non-white lover, if that’s what you imply. I well aware a lot of non-whites are racist and don’t like me, in fact, I met many in Korea. I’m only trying to look at all people fairly, even Koreans, though it doesn’t seem like it at times.

    I’m not a non-white lover, nor a white lover. Accusations of the sort are simply “bar stool” attempts at starting a fight.

    Finally, a really advanced person is mature enough to look past the racist hate thrown at him, especially if it’s coming from massively oppressed people.

    • Jason Y

      If I was around enough blacks, or if I had happen to grow up around blacks, then my picture would not be so rosy. Nonetheless, even someone who was beat up by blacks can mature and look past the hate thrown at him.

      As for Koreans, they do have all sorts of reasons to hate certain people, but due to humanness, my response to hate, is to hate back.

      I mean, blacks were slaves and suffered under segregation and lynchings, yet ep-gah still wants to respond to black hate thrown at him, with hate, and he sees himself justified.

      • EPGAH

        Yes, I’m responding to hate with hate. What problem do you have with that?

        And it’s hilarious when you admit in your first sentence that if you were around Blacks more, your picture wouldn’t be so rosy.

        It’s not about looking past the hate thrown at you, it’s about putting down the rampaging child and making it behave. OR if it pulls a gun on you, shoot it. Being what you consider “advanced” in that case and letting it shoot at you and make excuses for such behavior will only get you killed.

        • Jason Y

          I did see a situation in a public library in Atlanta USA, two preteen black girls calling a mild mannered Korean a gook behind his back. Of course, that’s just the tip of the iceberg with black racism toward other races.

          Putting blacks on a pedestal by liberals is plain foolish, cause they don’t deserve it, even though their race had endured much hardship.

    • Jason…..you are know one to criticize people for making accusations to start a fight when you often mix up ideas (ideas that you occasional use that originate from me) as well as constantly being immature.

      Honestly this sort of lack of respect towards you is what you get for previous actions.

      • Jason Y

        I knew a guy like you at a church once. An black guy who always felt nice non-racist white guys were phony. So he was always trying to trip them up, being sarcastic and hateful. This black guy actually seemed more anti-black racist and right wing then most of your white racists.

        I always felt like saying, “Well, if you hate white people, then stay away from them.”. Gosh…

        • Jason Y

          quote by phil

          Jason, what you’ve pointed out was hardly of any relevance.

          While you refuse to acknowledge the documented effects of HBD, even you must comprehend the concept of INDIVIDUAL quirks that people have in their personalities that don’t help them.

          What your alledged WN friend is doing is a result of either circumstance or intial lack of skill.

          your getting desperate. whisper voice It’s kind of pathetic!

          This guy I mentioned is massively intellegent cause he knows a lot of stuff about history, politics etc.. He isn’t retarded, not by a long shot. He’s also an excellent drummer, which requires skill.

          However, he’s the type that wants to play the “Blame Mexicans game” or “Blame somebody”.

        • I actually DON’T actively try to tackle non-racist whites.
          I actually like there company outside of these types of conversations but if they become incoherent with science due to emotions then there is nothing I can do.

          Look at Johnny above, Granted, I do not know his ethnicity but he at least tries to be logical and somewhat ACCEPT facts rather than cherry pick them and be a snide asshole.

          Does he has his fair share of anecdote, fine, but he at least organizes his argument better than you.

          Again, you accuse. BTW if you read my comment of you having some PC sympathy, that was only a crude suggestion at most rather than a full on accusation.

        • Okay……then that’s still entirely different from my circumstance.
          Granted, there is probably innate contributors to his blaming (possibly clannishness) like my anxiousness but if he is as intelligent as he says then he should’ve found some method to deal with it.

          Also, my quirk is NOT an excuse but an obstacle because if you go BACK to that comment and look further I talked about a way that I could beat my anxiousness.

    • EPGAH

      Also, you keep talking about “Massively oppressed people”…WHAT “massively oppressed people”? Blacks are not only not oppressed, they get away with a lot of shit whites don’t, to avoid the “oppressor” label.

      Who is looting and burning cities?
      Who is throwing tantrums at colleges?
      Who is intentionally blocking off shopping centers, thus being a real-life Grinch Army?
      Who is blocking off POLICE STATIONS?

      And it gets worse when MOST of this shit is committed in “honor” of dead thugs!

      What is wrong with using the word savage? There has never been a better descriptor of their actions and mindset.

  38. Jason Y

    Gosh, I can’t stand anti-Jewish, anti-liberal black guys. I can’t stand those smart-asses. Nah, Just kidding.

    No, I can’t stand people like that of any race period. Insecure people. The middle finger I want to dash out sometime. Maybe that would prove to some of these blacks that I don’t put anyone on pedestal. LOL

  39. Jason Y

    quote by Phil

    Look at Johnny above, Granted, I do not know his ethnicity but he at least tries to be logical and somewhat ACCEPT facts rather than cherry pick them and be a snide asshole.

    There is no cherry picking. You brought up mixed African Americans as being more violent, so I said Africans are also violent. What scientific research needs to be done there? None.

    Anyhow, when you do research, how do we know the sources aren’t biased, as Swank, who unforunately was banned, had said?

    • There should be a link in my discussion with Johnny. Prove bias.
      On the article link the author has link that has a paper that talks about data on Mixed race behavior.

      In my observations of two HBD’rs arguing over data, they discussed the methodology. I suggest that would be a good start.

      • Jason Y

        As Swank said, how do we know HBD is full of crap? It’s researched by biased scientists, the type you’d find working for Hitler.

      • Jason Y

        There should be a link in my discussion with Johnny. Prove bias.
        On the article link the author has link that has a paper that talks about data on Mixed race behavior.

        Unless the behavior is worse than African behavior, than it doesn’t mean anything.

        • You are again being dubious.

          What this means is that Mixed children, a smaller population than Blacks or Whites mind you, have more antisocial people in the population in terms of percentages as opposed to whites or Blacks.

          Prove me wrong ONLY by looking at the study a debunking it. If not then you have only yourself to blame if you feel like “your word” is not being acknowledged.

        • Jason Y

          You are again being dubious.

          What this means is that Mixed children, a smaller population than Blacks or Whites mind you, have more antisocial people in the population in terms of percentages as opposed to whites or Blacks.

          Prove me wrong ONLY by looking at the study a debunking it. If not then you have only yourself to blame if you feel like “your word” is not being acknowledged.

          It’s such a load of baloney Phil. Anti-social mixed raced children’s behavior could just be coming from the environment. However, the environment could be bad in some instances cause black and white motherfuckers bully the children.

        • “It’s such a load of baloney Phil. Anti-social mixed raced children’s behavior could just be coming from the environment. However, the environment could be bad in some instances cause black and white motherfuckers bully the children.”

          I never Objected.

          “This I’ll hand over to you to be a likely case of environmental spurred pathology. It’s a identity complex because they will likely catch on to that they are not quite either one. Ben stated something similar.”

        • Jason Y

          “It’s such a load of baloney Phil. Anti-social mixed raced children’s behavior could just be coming from the environment. However, the environment could be bad in some instances cause black and white motherfuckers bully the children.”

          I never Objected.

          “This I’ll hand over to you to be a likely case of environmental spurred pathology. It’s a identity complex because they will likely catch on to that they are not quite either one. Ben stated something similar.”

          What do you mean it’s a delusion on the part of the mixed children? The bullying is a delusion?

          No, not really. The kids bully mixed raced children, and the mixed raced were not asking for it. The mixed raced children are not over-sensitive, but just reporting what is really happening to them.

          Kids are always going around nit-picking at weaknesses, trying to tear apart people much as you’d see in a prison. Being mixed raced is just one of those things, but they could also just bully someone for being short.

        • I’ll hand it to you, THAT actually seems like an likely environmental effect.

          By Identity comlex, I mean complications in how to place themselves in society while coming from two different backgrounds. Bully could be an agitator in this.
          Again, see my comment at the bottom.

    • Also, by cherry-picking I mean accepting a incest, the Igbo, and maternal age while not accepting other elements of HBD.

      • Jason Y

        The other elements of HBD are an attempt to form some kind of “prison of inferiority” that many people cannot escape from easily. It serves the interests of white supremacists well, cause they want non-whites in the position of being a servant for all time.

  40. Jason Y

    quote by Phil

    ACCEPT facts rather than cherry pick them and be a snide asshole.

    What you say are facts could come from biased sources. There is a strong political (almost a religious one) motivation on the part of race realists to prove the white race is better.

    Stuff you find from race realists, could also be found from non-racist sources, but from a different angle.

    • Again, look at the paper based on the direction I gave an debunk the methodology (assuming if you can) to prove me wrong.

      “Stuff you find from race realists, could also be found from non-racist sources, but from a different angle.”

      OMG, what you just did was essentially what Santoculto has been doing with rationalizing racial data.

      Accept, he is will to accept the strength of innate contributors better than you have, though I’ll giver you credit for acknowledging more now.

      • Jason Y

        Regardless of the data found, race realism is just a movement to bully mixed raced people and to hurt thier feelings. Sorry but I am sentimental.

        • Jason Y

          Truth be told, blacks bully mixed race as much as whites. Fucking black assholes. Sorry.

        • “Regardless of the data found, race realism is just a movement to bully mixed raced people and to hurt thier feelings. Sorry but I am sentimental.”

          Wow….maybe of you understood Santoculto more instead of being snide maybe this wouldn’t have happened.

          He is quite against HBD’r as well but he doesn’t reject racial data.

  41. Jason Y

    I don’t necessarily think santo-culto is a bad person, only brainwashed by social darwinist ideas. I don’t think ep-gah is a bad person, he means well, even with his Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage type commentary.

    These people mean well, but especially with ep-gah,it goes overboard with the hate. Also, ep-gah says he can’t can’t escape minorities, when a simple reasonably priced education would give him enough money to leave.

    • I be honest with you Jason, while it may seem like it often I don’t hate you to your guts.

      What I hate is how you argue. What hurts more is that Johnny above likely shares similar ideas as yours but he argues better thus earning my respect more.

      Look, it’s 12:23 according to my clock and I’m as tired as hell. So, I’ll let you win for now and merry christmas.

      I don’t want to wake up Christmas morning having an heated argument with someone who I feel has a chance to reason with.

      • Jason Y

        Ok fair enough. I hate how white nationalsts tear apart well meaning bad anti-racist debaters. It’s so cool to see them go against a good debater and get thier ass kicked.

        Swank, who was banned for insulting Robert, was acccused of being a bad debater, though he did bring up more scientific stuff than I do. This other guy, an African, was also smart and won more respect, but he also insulted Robert somehow.

        • The second I believe was Afrosapiens, He was banned once for I and was banned again for posting articles without Roberts or Alpha’s agreement.

          Afrosapiens was actually, based of what I read of him, a Mulatto from France.

          What swank and AS had what many didn’t was some form of scientific background and debate skills.

          I said it many times not just for my own satisfaction but for your own benefit, no data/methodology complaint = no argument worth time.
          Believe me I DON’T like a lot of HBD’rs and how they act along with many WN’s but what I do us simply that there information without their emotions making noise and make the best out of it.

          Still, I promised peace for now so that’s all I have to say. Enjoy your holiday.

        • Advanced anal negrology

          Jason you have actually got better at debating as time has gone on. You are actually in a better position than a while back; when you used to post those silly smiley faces after some comment of yours that did not in fact respond to a well meaning poster with any degree of earnest seriousness on your part.

        • Jason Y

          Some things are wrong ethically even if science seems to back it.

          Also, human beings are way to corrupt morally to play God. That’s the beef I have with eugenics, besides me being a scrawny string bean LOL.

          Of course, you could say the same with Communists as well as Nazis. Both systems want to intrude on human freedom.

          Things regarding beauty, deciding who lives and dies, eugenics and whatnot go into the realm of people trying to play God.

        • Santoculto

          ”human freedom” my ass…

          for what**

          destroy environment** invade countries**

          ”human freedom” for Isisrael, US and co. invade middle eastern countries** Human freedom to kill millions and millions of non-human domesticated and complete vulnerable animals***

          Back to the kindergarden dude!! You’re among wolfes.

          No doubt that dogmatic ones have mental issues, culture IS schizophrenic by nature and the worst part for their ”sensible” ears is that…

          rightists have more tact with reproductive reality than you lunatics on the left. AND reproduction is one of the most important piece of sexual life. Contextual eugenics (adaptation) par excellence.

          Stupid people neeed to be helped all the time with morality issues, and i’m not just talking about ”lower iq” ones, but with lower WQ, wisdom quotient too.

          You need talk extremely obvieties for him all the time, repeating and repeating, and watching them, like ”do not throw trash in the streets”. Dengue disease, transmited by mosquitoes, here in Brazil, other greater example about incapacity for irresponsible people to do, internalize and engage the basics of good sense.

          human ”freedom” to microcephalic pp like you Jay can be translated as ” irresponsibility”.

          You’re a truly useuful idiot, a very disgusting troll zombie-tard. Truly stupid, some very good soul should tell you the truth, first, studying you correctly, second telling you that you’are far to be reasonably rational, even when you say things that made sense, as seems a common pattern, is very common among lefties, a tiny desert islands of truths sorrounded by a pacific ocean of lunaticism or dogmatism.

          PP mistakes dogmas with facts and like to manipulate others who defend the principle of truth instead ”relativity”.

          Entire ”sycho-logy” is based on CONTEXTUAL morality, what is right to do to ”adapt” OR CONFORM, what subhumans do. AND NOT what is fundamentally right.

          Sycho-logy IS a predominant pseudo-science because dishonest and ignorant-naive people, aka, most them ”liberals”, occupy this part of academia, while ‘the study of behavior’ is a complete legitime science or knowledge, very useful, very important.

          Sycho-logy is a pure politics but tards like Jay are unable to accept it, like a child they accept just what they think is right AND with quasi-complete lack of minimal development, your arguments ARE media ”arguments” or better, propaganda. If media were right…

          Every culture, even satanism, use real morality to conquer followers. But it doesn’t mean that morality is bad, just that bad, stupid people use it incorrectly.

        • EPGAH

          What about when someone like you goes up against a good debater and either gets your ass kicked, or gets tricked into going against your earlier statements?

          I DO have a college degree…Now how does that give me enough money to leave minorities? You ARE aware of this thing called “Affirmative Action”, unfairness in the Name of “equality”? That means I can’t get away from these idiots. Also, Obamacare got a lot of people fired, including me. Was that incompetence, or part of the Plan?

          Also Robert had an article that modern anti-racists are on the side of the criminals, not good people at all, so why do you think it’s cool that bad guys win?
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2014/07/29/from-civil-rights-to-modern-antiracism-a-moral-inversion/

  42. Jason Y

    Anyhow, what does Robert Lindsay think of Michael Savage, the shock jock, he sounds similar to epgah?

    Iv’e heard him before, and some of his ideas make sense, but again he’s way off to the far right.

  43. Jason Y

    Any references to white trash, is only referring to backwood freaks who live in a swamp and lynch coons, not real white working class people, though a few of them do side with the extremists.

  44. Jason Y

    Phil brought up n word lover, g word lover, etc.. Note, usually those words are used to shame people who won’t conform to the racist standards of a community. It also prepares people for war, as nobody wants to drop bombs on Asians. Much better on orientals, or better yet Japs, or gooks.

    Nobody wants to lynch an African America, coon is much better.

    Ok, that was today’s PC lesson LOL

    • Advanced anal negrology

      Good Jason. I think it is great you realise the value of PC language. But it is no laughing matter. It is of the most vital importance in moulding the minds of the masses.

      • Jason Y

        I can’t control the irrational hatred of others. However, it’s best to stay away from them, like someone with a disease. (aside from blogs or forums etc..) For instance, let’s say your a black guy and he says the word cracker, if some black kid hangs around that guy, he will start saying the same thing.

  45. Santoculto

    Jeez,

    500 comments of Jay…

    same than swank, lol lol lol

  46. Jason Y

    quote by stano-culto

    ”human freedom” my ass…

    for what**

    destroy environment** invade countries**

    ”human freedom” for Isisrael, US and co. invade middle eastern countries** Human freedom to kill millions and millions of non-human domesticated and complete vulnerable animals***

    In some instances, people have to play God to some extent, but in other cases it could lead massive evil. I would say playing God in regards to eugenics and intruding on personal freedom to be a slippery slope.

    quote by ep-gah

    I DO have a college degree…Now how does that give me enough money to leave minorities? You ARE aware of this thing called “Affirmative Action”, unfairness in the Name of “equality”? That means I can’t get away from these idiots. Also, Obamacare got a lot of people fired, including me. Was that incompetence, or part of the Plan?

    Not trying to sound unfriendly, but if you can leave, then why don’t you?

    I’m sorry about you losing your job cause of Obamacare, but I’m sure non-whites also lose jobs for irrational reasons also. One black guy came on here, I think it humifer or something, he said black sounding names etc.. still scare away employers.

  47. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Also Robert had an article that modern anti-racists are on the side of the criminals, not good people at all, so why do you think it’s cool that bad guys win?
    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2014/07/29/from-civil-rights-to-modern-antiracism-a-moral-inversion/

    Could it be possible to be against criminals totally, while understanding the root causes of the crime and taking action, and be anti-racist? That seems to be my position, but it isn’t popular.

    • EPGAH

      But you’re not against the root causes of crime, which is poor people breeding and THEN realizing they don’t have enough, which in their bizarro ethical calculus totally excuses theft, murder, arson, etc.
      Even you have said these excuse their behavior.

      You’re against White Nationalists, REALLY against Trump, and against a Police State, which sadly, is necessary to control the massive horde if we don’t cull them. As to intruding on personal freedom, would you prefer cops do it…or thugs?

      How do you excuse their destruction of their betters’ countries, culture…even history?
      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/24/mud-huts-v-western-civilization-rhodesmustfall-must-fail/

      • Jason Y

        Why shouldn’t poor people breed? What’s wrong with that, unless of course there are no good jobs, or education to enable people to take good jobs?

        Of course, a lot of the negative stuff you mention is an outflow from the destruction of poor society via drugs, many purposely introduced to pacify the poor people, and also to build a “prison industrial” complex.

        Of course, people do have a free will. They shouldn’t take drugs, but because people are human, are large infux of drugs (You should see this is as familiar as it sounds like a huge infux of illegal aliens.), espcially into a poor neighborhood, wrecks the havoc of an invading army.

        • Jason Y

          Ok, how about Mexicans breeding? Well, they can breed all they want to, assuming free trade isn’t taking thier jobs, hence would encourage them to illegally or legally immigrate to the US.

        • Jason Y

          If massive amounts of cocaine were put on white neighborhoods, like they were on black neighborhoods, then it would have made major news, like some kind of Martian invasion. Also the same with free trade. If free trade was put on US areas, like it was in Latin America, then it would have made major news. Both situations are akin to invading Viking armies.

        • Jason Y

          Poor people in the US and Brazil are not so genetically disabled they can’t function as well as decent middle class US people. In that case, the enviornment, especially drugs, free trade etc…, forced on them like an invading army can be said to be a major culprit.

        • EPGAH

          Mexicans can breed a legion every time they come into heat for all I care–AS LONG AS I don’t have to pay for those legions, and they don’t use those legions to occupy America.

          Also, Free Trade is not TAKING their jobs, it’s GIVING them our jobs on a silver platter, from ZENITH on up, so why isn’t there a huge invasion of WHITES into MEXICO? They’re not following the jobs, they’re following the Welfare!

      • Jason Y

        The poor of any society are it’s backbone. They are the Volk, as Hitler might put it. They must breed as much as possible, assuming thier environment isn’t destroyed from outside sources, as I mentioned above.

        Mexicans are no different than the Eisenhower generation in the US, except it would be better if they would stay in Mexico, assuming as I said, free trade wasn’t dictating the rules.

        • EPGAH

          Why MUST they breed as much as possible? That keeps them poor and dependent on handouts.

          Mexicans were the direct enemy of Eisenhower generation. Booting them got a lot of Americans back to work. Indeed, Trump riled up a LOT of idiots by pointing out how successful Trump was at booting illegals with WWII tech, and that implies heavily we could do it NOW!

        • Jason Y

          The breeding in Mexico and Africa etc.. is normal. However, that doesn’t mean we need them in the US, but due to oppressive right wing governments, they are forced to emigrate.

        • EPGAH

          Actually, it’s not normal.
          http://www.unomaha.edu/news/2015/01/fertility.php
          The fertility gap between Third Worlders and Civilized World is SHRINKING, but they’re still breeding too damn much!

          As to oppressive Governments in Africa, open a history book. Most of them were installed after overthrowing the far better ones made by Britain, Holland, even FRANCE!

          So their “oppressive” Governments are literally their own fault!
          As in it’s THEIR PEOPLE overthrew those Governments, not ours!

  48. Jason Y

    quote by santo-culto

    You’re a truly useuful idiot, a very disgusting troll zombie-tard. Truly stupid, some very good soul should tell you the truth, first, studying you correctly, second telling you that you’are far to be reasonably rational, even when you say things that made sense, as seems a common pattern, is very common among lefties, a tiny desert islands of truths sorrounded by a pacific ocean of lunaticism or dogmatism.

    You could easily flip the situation and put a race realist in that position. So much race realism is a tiny desert islands of truths sorrounded by a pacific ocean of lunaticism or dogmatism.

    No offense, not trying to be unfriendly.

    So much white identity, neo-Nazi and other beliefs are so laden with mythology, biased information etc..

    • Jason Y

      Could it be that anti-racists and racists just believe what they want to believe despite evidence which seems to point toward a middle way or solution?

    • Jason Y

      True santo-culto and others are researching science and whatnot. However, that doesn’t change the fact race realism (and probably you can say the same for hardcore anti-racism) is again, a little truth mixed in with a lot of lies.

    • Jason Y

      Long tedious study into the topics regarding race will probably lead to what I was speaking of. It may seem like one side has the solution, only to be shown later that the information was incredibly biased.

    • Santoculto

      You’re offensive to my intellect, you’re abusively stupid!!! Exactly equal my mentally idiotic leftoid brother, two useful idiot separated geographically but with greater similarities like enormous self confidence to engage in political debates and complete lack of awareness about their own weaknesses…. there a lot of people who like to do (about) something but they are not good on this activities, a lot of self-claimed singers with zero (natural) talent, a lot of self-claimed thinkers with equally zero (natural) talent to think REFLEXIVELY and based on perceived reality, specially abstractions or inter-relations (interactions) between natural, animal and human expressions. The inter-relations between shapes and their expressions. But is no their fault, you born like that, it’s is your expression, the expression of their shape (in this case, mindset). You aren’t a idiot but just someone who literally seems no have any defense mechanisms to understand behavior to avoid their potential risks of this interactions. Seems a very relativistic and contextually contrarian mindset (always agains white stuff).

      • Jason Y

        You can easily say the same thing about “rightoid people” especially race realists etc..

        There is so much fluff and mythology whatnot, that, yes, TALENT, comes into question with a lot of race realists. You could also say the same with people heavy into religion, as religion is based a lot on mythology.

        Your typical race realists is no different than some Christian fundementalist saying “Why? Cause the Bible says so.”

      • Jason Y

        As far as talent goes (most of the time), it has to be developed, but with some it takes longer than others. The ones who gain the talent quicker are the ones called “talented”

        For instance, I got a B in Calculus I and II but I had to retake the courses, in fact, i had to retake Calculus II a few times, to get the grade. But I do know it now, even though many might mock me and call me a dumb-ass etc.. LOL

      • Jason Y

        Many people want to call other people “monkeys” because they disagree with what they say, not cause the insulted person is actually an idiot.

      • Jason Y

        One thing I see with certain race realists, the ones who don’t live on a mountain and drink moonshine, the intellectual ones, is an incredible arrogance, A kind of “know it all” smart kid in the class thing. You see it with posters on Stormfront like Fading Light etc..

        Of course, you can see the same thing with “know it all” liberals, especially radcial atheists.

        Anyhow, this attitude seems to be some kind way to deflect attention away from the facts and just focus on the “enemy” whom is trying to be thrown off the stage, or out of the spotlight. The main goal is to portray the enemy as being an idiot, so as to make them lose credibility.

  49. Jason Y

    I think a big problem with “race realism” is it has no heart. Ok, so they may think non-whites and low IQ whites are evil, but they don’t seek loving positive solutions to the problem.

    Of course though, it is difficult to love people who hate you and are trying to rob, kill you etc.. However, a mature person has to see past the negativity, even extreme stuff.

    It’s kind of like, and sorry to bring up some over-sentimental liberal crap, some soldier spitting on a oriental child cause he had bad war experiences.

    • EPGAH

      Actually, it’s more like not believing there are any good Orcs.
      If nonwhites and low-IQ whites are evil, there are 4 outcomes:
      1.) Kill them
      2.) Neuter them and let them kill themselves
      3.) Separate them so they can’t hurt you and yours
      4.) Let them kill you and pretend they are nonviolent.

      • Jason Y

        At least whites are being thrown into the mix. Let’s say some non-whites and whites are a violent threat. Not trying to be nice and PC, but just looking at this thing honestly.

        • Jason Y

          I don’t think nobody wants to be around violent people. Myself and others wouldn’t mind being around family oriented non-white people like on the show “Good Times”. However, some, not all, neighborhoods are too dangerous to venture into, at least at night.

        • EPGAH

          Yes, actually, in another article, Robert mentioned that if whites weren’t available, the savages would target each other with redoubled fury.
          Do you consider that a positive or negative outcome?

          And whites have a LONG history of taking down our own criminals. That’s the main difference between whites and Blacks: Whites gather around our criminals to take them down, Blacks gather around their criminals to defend, lionize, even pay them for inspirational speeches! Like the cop-killer animal Abu Jamal!

          As to neighborhoods that are too dangerous to venture into, what demographic are they? Earlier, I got you to admit Appalachia doesn’t have any of those…

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          And whites have a LONG history of taking down our own criminals. That’s the main difference between whites and Blacks: Whites gather around our criminals to take them down, Blacks gather around their criminals to defend, lionize, even pay them for inspirational speeches! Like the cop-killer animal Abu Jamal!

          That’s a generalization. A lot of blacks don’t want to be around criminals either. They aren’t stupid. Your typical “Cosby Show” blacks are not going to want to be near a hood if they can afford it. However, some church going blacks might be forced to live in a hood out of dire circumstances. Of course though, hoods in Tennessee, obviously are safer than those in Chicago.

        • EPGAH

          You’re either not listening or intentionally mischaracterizing.

          Whites kill our own thugs.

          We do not defend them.
          We do not riot because they get killed.

          Blacks defend their thugs.
          Blacks try to get their thugs out of jail.
          Blacks try to stop the execution of their thugs.
          Blacks riot over a dead thug…or is it for the freebies?

          This happens on a national scale too.
          Compare the fates of Hitler vs. Mugabe.
          Which one did people of his own skin tone try to takedown, and which one has an army of its skin tone still robbing, killing, and protecting it?

      • Jason Y

        Of course there are good orcs. Portraying non-whites as ALL being savages is immoral, cruel, and unscientific.

        However, with the bad ones, yes, society has to deal harshly with them, even though society created their problem to some extent.

      • Jason Y

        Again as with the soldier spitting on the oriental child, it’s just a case of total cruelty, but will obviously come about in some people if they take the message of ep-gah seriously.

        It’s totally evil and wrong to dehumanize whole groups of people when only some of them are evil. Note, if you turn the tables some non-whites do that to whites, and it’s very wrong and many get hurt.

        • Jason Y

          I had to endure so much of that crap in Korea, as some Koreans hate Americans so much they refuse to communicate to any, unless of course it’s to insult them or glare at them.

          It’s not justified, cause not ALL Americans are bad, just as not ALL blacks etc.. are bad.

  50. Jason Y

    Oh yes, I did act like a troll as santo-culto was saying, bashing white people and whatnot, but only to show a lot of poor whites weren’t any different than blacks, with the same negative stereotypes.

    However, note you can’t make fun of non-whites in the PC USA, but you can poor white people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastbound_and_down

    The show above is halarious and mocks real people you’d see where I live. However, you couldn’t make the same show about non-whites.

    • EPGAH

      Yes, how about that. Far from being discriminated AGAINST, they’re Sacred Cows, aren’t they?

      • Jason Y

        It could be you can’t make fun of non-whites on TV, but non-whites still suffer “under the radar” discrimination. I mean if a lot of people don’t like them, of course, there will be “hate speech”, “discrimination” etc..

        • EPGAH

          Hate speech? Who made the laws that made Blacks on a pedestal?

        • Jason Y

          Blacks are on a pedestal officially, but a lot of people still hate blacks. Ultimately, if a lot of people dislike you, even if it’s officially illegal, your still going to sense hate.

          That’s the way PC is. It’s trying to paint a version of the USA that isn’t real.

    • Advanced anal negrology

      It is comedy movie. There are movies that mock all races. Lighten up. That Hollywood entertainment, pushing the boundaries for good laugh. Stop acting so right wing and sensitive. Both blacks and whites are made fun of and it is legitimate Hollywood comedy. Check out some eddy Murphy movies. “Coming to America” shows eddy mocking the ghetto blacks.

      Non whites are made fun of all time on this blog. It is even suggested that social Darwinism is used to cull this numbers. Where have you been?

      Both whites and non whites are reduced to shadows of themselves all the time.

      • Jason Y

        Right people need to lighten up. However, that doesn’t mean I would move into certain bad neighborhoods of any race, or at least I wouldn’t walk around at night. Of course, not all non-white neighborhoods are that dangerous. Some “hoods” where I live in Tennessee are a joke, but some prejudiced whites really think “violent an dangerous” people live there.

        Myself, I wouldn’t move into government housing here, not cause of the danger, but cause it’s inferior housing.

        • Jason Y

          Also government housing here is also roach infested. Which is a problem as they get into computers and TVs destroying them, among other things.

      • Jason Y

        Oh yes, Eastbound and Down makes fun of all races but focuses mostly on “rednecks”. Of course, thru Hollywood history, several jabs have been taken at ghetto blacks making fun of them. They had this one movie, that was halarious, where they were making fun of all the black ghetto movies. Also, as Advanced anal neurology mentioned, “Coming to America” made fun of ghetto blacks.

        Actually making fun of modern day rednecks as Eastbound and Down does is a new thing. Iv’e never seen it before. Of course, I grew up around sports coaches who act like the Kenny Powers character on that show. This whole area is full of them.

  51. Jason Y

    Santo-culto brought up trash being thrown in the streets. I’m assuming that would be like poor east Indians pooping in the street. Well, in that case, we can say the government is so into social darwinism, they won’t even build adequete sanitation for poor areas.

  52. Advanced anal negrology

    Let us see a better alternative.

    1 political correctness

    2 strong state that invests in saniatation and pollution control

    3 a strong state with the monopoly on violence. Gun control. No
    Guns for anyone except the government.

    4 a strong extreme left wing government that rules the people without the corruption of democracy, that is buying votes and importing votes from over seas for electoral advantage as we see both dems and republicans doing in the US when it comes to the hard working Hispanic population.

    5 Freedom of speech up to a point and that point being the overthrow of the government. Criticism of government should be allowed.

    • Jason Y

      PC has to exist in some places like college campuses because of the diverse student body. The other option would create a war zone of harassment.

      • EPGAH

        College Campuses are supposed to be a marketplace of ideas, not a Liberal Echo Chamber, right?
        As to a diverse student body, did they or did they not choose to come to a white country for our better colleges? And do they or do they not throw tantrums and demand we be more like their culture?

        Hilariously, one of these tantrumers is on a RHODES Scholarship–and led a successful riot to demand the University tear down a statue of James RHODES, who is not only civilizer of Africa, but the guarantor of this ingrate’s scholarship!
        http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/24/mud-huts-v-western-civilization-rhodesmustfall-must-fail/

        We have little or nothing to learn from them, they have EVERYTHING to learn from us!

        • Jason Y

          You mean Rhodes helped Africa? I thought Africans were the enemy. Rhodes should be condemened for helping Africans LOL

          Race realists etc.. praise attempts in the past to help Africans when it had to do with colonailsm or slavery etc.. but bash modern attempts to help Africans as liberal do gooder crap.

  53. Jason Y

    Brazil is a good country. I don’t mean to bash it so much, as santo-culto is from there. However, there is appaling poverty in certain areas, and it seems like the government is powerless to do anything.

    • Santoculto

      Lunatic-tard,

      brazil is a hell!!!

      shut up what you don’t know, in other words, just shut up.

      • Jason Y

        I will pretend I didn’t hear that. LOL

      • Jason Y

        Shut up? Make me. LOL Force me to shut up.

        • Santoculto

          You should kill yourself, what do you think about it**

          =)

          I no have nothing to say for you, just lament that types like you exist…

          ”Encyclotrashea”

          Jay
          jay
          jay
          jay
          jay

          500 comments, same trash lunaticism.

        • Jason Y

          You should kill yourself, what do you think about it**

          =)

          I no have nothing to say for you, just lament that types like you exist…

          ”Encyclotrashea”

          Jay
          jay
          jay
          jay
          jay

          500 comments, same trash lunaticism.

          You could easily say the same for some asshole race realist on Stromfront. 500 comments of the same crap. Talking crap about non-whites, gays, the handicapped, liberals.

          Yes, please, race realist Strormfront poster. Do us a favor and kill yourself. LOL

  54. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Actually, it’s not normal.
    http://www.unomaha.edu/news/2015/01/fertility.php
    The fertility gap between Third Worlders and Civilized World is SHRINKING, but they’re still breeding too damn much!

    As to oppressive Governments in Africa, open a history book. Most of them were installed after overthrowing the far better ones made by Britain, Holland, even FRANCE!

    So their “oppressive” Governments are literally their own fault!
    As in it’s THEIR PEOPLE overthrew those Governments, not ours!

    An incredibly biased look at history. However, you may be right about the colonial African governments.

    • EPGAH

      I MAY be right about African Governments?
      My look at history happens to be CORRECT!
      We can discuss my bias and why I might have that bias if you like?
      Or we can just focus on historical facts!

      Rhodesia under Civilized World control: Breadbasket of Africa–and even had some leftover to export to the Civilized World!
      Rhodesia after savage overthrow: Basket CASE!

      South Africa under Civilized World control: First SUCCESSFUL heart transplant.
      South Africa after savage overthrow: Rape capital of the WORLD, and savages tear the hearts out of victims–also a thriving Black Market of albino organs!

      Zaire under Civilized World control: A nice place to visit, maybe even live.
      Zaire after savage overthrow: Called the “Congo”, a LEGENDARY pit of atrocities–which ironically, the Civilized World is bitched at for not fixing!
      http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/06/ignore-congo-atrocities-africa-drc-horror
      But if we DO, we’re bitched at for “Imperialism”.

      Somalia under Civilized World control: Thriving port.
      Somalia after savage overthrow: Pirate capital of the world–the kidnap and murder kind, not music-downloaders. Also a good object-lesson for people who confuse Libertarian with Anarchy.

      List ended here for brevity, if you want, we can discuss YOUR favorite African country, and why it might or might not fall into one of the above 4 groups?

      • Jason Y

        Trying to keep a low profile here, but many of the colonial governments were abusive, though not all, just as many of the post-colonial African governments were also abusive.

        It’s kind of like with Communism. The Communist tyranny isn’t any better than the capitalist one it replaced.

        Look at Haiti. Yeah, it’s a hell-hole, but it was under the French also, that is, if you happened to be a slave lol. Anyhow, sadly the free black government was unable to improve things in Haiti, other than keep people from being bullwhipped.

  55. Santoculto

    I see Jay-sons!!!!

    All the time!!!

    =(

    • Jason Y

      Who Brazillians with Che Guevara T shirts? Yes, I agree those people are morons. Just as narrow minded as the people they hate.

  56. Jason Y

    I’m getting bored with this topic. Santo-culto thinks I’m an arrogant idiot, and in the other direction, I feel the same about a lot of race realists, radical atheists, unreasonable liberals, and others.

    Why can’t people have a good debate without resorting to a “know it all” attitude and arrogance?

    • EPGAH

      Because you keep calling us “biased” and worse, without actually thinking “Hey, this guy could be RIGHT! He could have a REASON for being biased!”!

  57. Jason Y

    You see why I don’t major in a humanities subject, LOL I can’t shut up ! There was this one philosophy class where I couldn’t shut up. The other students didn’t like it either, calling me a pussy etc.. behind my back. But I can’t help it. I just can’t help but become sarcastic.

  58. Jason Y

    Sorry if anyone thinks i’m breaking the rules. I’m just being sarcastic. I’m not making real threats.

  59. Jason Y

    Perhaps a problem with ego and attention seeking has caused my posts to become too emotional. I don’t think most people had a problem with my posts before. But I started becoming a jackass, mainly to expose fallacy in ep-gah and others thinking. But it’s thrown me into a troll label.

    • EPGAH

      You haven’t exposed any fallacious thinking in anyone except yourself, but you HAVE succeeded in exposing yourself as a jackass!

      You grudgingly admitted I was right a couple times, but even THEN you call it “biased”. Just because it’s biased, doesn’t make it WRONG, you get that?

      • Jason Y

        Both rightoid and leftoids often mix truth with lies so they are right sometimes. However, even in the process of being right, the whole “spirit of the situation” is biased. For instance, you could say blacks were better behaved under slavery. However, the whole concept of that thought is biased. Yeah, they were better behaved but it didn’t justify slavery or white supremacy.

  60. Advanced anal negrology

    Ok let us admit the governments of Africa get things wrong. Crime, poverty etc.

    Let us admit also that the government of india gets things wrong with sanitation infrastructure, caste etc

    Let us admit that the government of China gets things wrong with pollution control, slave working conditions etc

    Let us admit that western governments get things wrong despite seeing all these third world countries killing and polluting themselves by inviting them to come and live in the western countries.

    Can you see which government is the most stupid?

    Clearly it is the western government which imports by the millions people from some of the poorest, least free,most unsanitary, polluted and dangerous places on earth.

    The western governments get the gold medal in stupidity.

    Every government gets things wrong but only western governments want to replace their people with the aforementioned people. This is the most insane thing in this sorry list of failure by governments.

    Well done western governments you have shown how to destroy yourselves demographically.

    Pollution, infrastructure, crime can be dealt with by better policies over time and with investment, but replacing yourself with other people? All talk of superiority rings hollow when you do not even value your own people.

    That is a one way ticket to your own death. At least love the people who voted you into office. Such is the hatred of the west for their own people this will fall on deaf ears. The only solution to tough decisions needed for the west is an extreme left wing governments which invests in infrastructure and not people replacement.

  61. Jason Y

    Bot leftoids and rightoids can evolve into jackasses, and often do, and also a lot of leftoid and rightoid thinking is biased and mythology.

    • Jason Y

      Let’s look at a leftoid example. Leftoids would want to put blacks on a pedestal, but would ignore the fact blacks are also racist and are often as cruel as whites. However, the liberals would ignore black cruelty because blacks are a supposed “oppressed race”.

      Again we see that leftoid “mythology” elevates blacks to a place they don’t deserve, where all blacks are these “gentle Uncle Tom Creatures” whom most kind-hearted people would cry over.

      Also leftoid thoughts would often be biased, even if some of the statements they make might be “true statements”. The overall “spirit of the situation” is biased.

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