Mass Shooting in San Bernardino

There has been another mass shooting in the US, and this was one of the worst ones of all – up there with Columbine and the other mega-horrors. At last count, there were 15 dead and 19 wounded. One of the dead is one of the shooters, and two of the wounded are a shooter and a cop.  All of the rest are the civilians who got shot.

The shooting occurred in San Bernardino, which is part of the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area. This is a part of Southern California called the Inland Empire.

The shooting happened at a County Disability Services building where some sort of a holiday buffet was underway. In other words, it was a party at work. There was some sort of a an altercation or argument at the party, and one of the employees left the gathering. He then returned with two of his friends. They were dressed in all black with black face masks. The three burst into the gathering and opened fire, apparently with semi-automatic weapons, for about one minute. They then fled in a black SUV.

Police etc. rushed to the scene. At some point, the shooters’ vehicle was found, and a chase ensued. The chase ended, and there was a shootout. One of the shooters was killed. His body could be seen next to the SUV in a pool of blood with a gun nearby. The other shooter was in the bullet-riddled SUV, sitting in a passenger seat and badly wounded. A cop was lightly wounded in the shootout. A chase then ensued for the third suspect who seemed to be cornered in a mall the last I heard.

At last count, this country was experiencing an average of one mass shooting a day. That is absolutely insane for a country that is not at war. Are there any other countries on Earth not at war that experience at least one mass shooting a day? When you think about it that’s just stupid. That’s the only word for al these mass shootings. Stupid. Any country not at war that has at least one mass shooting a day is a stupid country.

I think this country is a very stupid country. In fact, we are one of the stupidest countries out there. Mass shootings every single day without a single step (as in gun control like every other sane country) being taken to try to stop or minimize them? Sheer idiocy.

So now we have to put up with worrying about idiots shooting up the place whenever we go just about anywhere. As if we didn’t have enough to worry about already.

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126 responses to “Mass Shooting in San Bernardino

  1. James Schipper

    I believe that the definition of a mass shooting is that the number of people killed in a single shooting has to be 4 or higher.

  2. This is what you guys have shown to Extremists.

  3. EPGAH

    For bonus Irony Points, San Bernadino is one of the planned terrorist “relocation sites”! They want to dump MORE terrorists on the little town!

  4. EPGAH

    Would one of those “Common Sense Gun Laws” be “No selling guns to anyone who’s been to an enemy country WITHOUT military reason”? And of course, demanding military ID from those demanding military exemption!

    These Qur’animals came from SAUDI ARABIA, bought a gun, and started killing people the same day! The ONLY thing gun control laws did was guarantee that the Qur’animal terrorists were the ONLY ones armed inside that building.

    They didn’t even have to pay extra for same-day service!

  5. Jason Y

    Note how white nationalists think the shooting in Oregon is cool and show no tears, yet the one Calfornia is horrible, But then again, the shooting targeted cripples so maybe they’ll side with the Muslims. LOL

    • Toe Jam Football

      To Jason Y:

      Note how white nationalists think the shooting in Oregon is cool and show no tears..

      I don’t visit WN sites but why would white nationalists think the Oregon shooting was cool when it was perpetrated by a mixed race man with a black mother..?

      • Jason Y

        Did his mixed race have anything to do with the murder? WNs would want to read that part into the equation, since they don’t like mixed people.

        • EPGAH

          The media CALLED it a White Nationalist, but it cannot be for 2 reasons:
          1.) It was not white itself.
          2.) It was killing CHRISTIANS. I repeat, explicitly asking victims if they’re Christian, if they’re not, they get beat, if they are, they get killed.

    • EPGAH

      How do you get that White Nationalists think the shooting in Oregon is cool? It’s already been debunked that the shooter was a White Supremacist. It was a MULATTO SHOOTING CHRISTIANS!
      Maybe YOU think it’s cool because the targets were Christians?

      • Jason Y

        Yes, he was a mulatto, but it seemed more like he was just some run of the mill “Wigger” (Plenty out there who aren’t mulatto, some even with blonde hair) into being hyper-masculine.

        • EPGAH

          OK, but once more with feeling, it was shooting CHRISTIANS, so it cannot be a White Supremacist.

        • Jason Y

          repost due to bad html:

          quote by ep-gah

          OK, but once more with feeling, it was shooting CHRISTIANS, so it cannot be a White Supremacist.

          Christians can be a snobby social clique in many schools. I hate to see them targeted, but often Christians bully people, and then later use thier “church image” to deflect criticism. That’s true of some of them, but it ruins the whole group (much as bad blacks ruin the image of good blacks).

        • EPGAH

          Just to be sure I have this straight, you consider people being snobby to be a capital offense?

          AND somehow those are “Bad” Christians, exactly on par with Bad Blacks, who MURDER PEOPLE?!

          So in your world, being a snobby clique is Morally Equivalent…to MURDER?!

  6. Jason Y

    They can’t get rid of illegal immigrants, Muslims without using detention camps, but that brings up memories of Hitler.

    • Toe Jam Football

      To Jason Y:

      They can’t get rid of illegal immigrants… without using detention camps ..

      Or memories of Eisenhower whose policies effectively removed more than 1 million illegal immigrants peacefully., (By basically enforcing existing laws against illegal aliens and their employers..)

      It was called Operation Wetback (Yes really):
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

    • EPGAH

      We can get rid of them without “detention camps” or “internment” or even a “Network Of Informants”: Round them up and send them home on a slow boat instead of air-conditioned jeeps–and put them DEEP in the south end of Mexico, instead of just barely kicking the trash to the other side of the border.

      If Eisenhower could do it with WWII tech, how much MORE could anyone do with modern tech? The problem is WILL, not technical ability!

      • Jason Y

        You won’t be able to deport Mexicans without violence, and turning the USA into a massive police state on par with Aparthied South Africa.

        Oh, I think Trump will get away with his deportation program.

        Round them up and send them home on a slow boat instead of air-conditioned jeeps–and put them DEEP in the south end of Mexico,

        How about cattle trains?🙄 Bring back some memories?

        • EPGAH

          What makes you think we won’t be able to deport Mexicans without violence? Are you admitting they really ARE that violent?

          What do you mean “get away with” his deportation?
          You “get away with” a crime.
          Deportation is undoing a crime. Putting the scum back in THEIR place, after they burgled ours!

          Given Political Correctness, we shouldn’t call it “deportation” anymore, but “repatriation”. Focus on putting the scum back in THEIR country, not on getting it out of ours.

          As to cattle trains, that has the disadvantage of needing a TRACK preexisting. If we can send them AWAY on a train, they could take that same track back into our side of the border.

          Maybe something like this:
          (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlgrasnijkQ)
          I find it difficult to believe Mexico doesn’t realize that train was infested with THAT many illegals. Probably WANTS them to get on it and invade America so they don’t have to deal with their own trash. It’s America’s problem!

  7. Jason Y

    They can possibly get rid of 20 – 50 million illegals using detention camps located all over the US. Trump will probably use them. As I said in a comment below, it brings up memories of the holocaust and also the internment of Japanese Americans.

    Finally, what if these illegals fight back, or try to escape? Then definitely, you might have mass killing on your hand. Thought such a thing couldn’t happen in PC America? It can.

    Note, a lot of Latios will think Trump’s policy is bullshit. They will fight back. A race war is inevitable, and maybe even mass killings (could we say on the scale of Stalin or Hitler) maybe on the horizon, though it seems like science-fiction.

    • Latinos will never fight back against the American government.

      • Toe Jam Football

        To Socially Extinct

        Latinos will never fight back against the American government.

        Yeah at most I can see some big street protests like there were in the early-mid 2000s. If the US government truly wanted to solve illegal immigration they would focus on employers that didn’t employ e-verify, levy heavy fines on the scofflaws, and get a functional federal ID in place.

        I don;t think any of the above will happen even with Donald Trump as President.

  8. Jason Y

    Note that Hitler originally just wanted Jews, foriegners to simply leave. He had to set up death camps because thier was literally no practical way to get them out of the nation.

    • Toe Jam Football

      To Jason Y:

      Note that Hitler originally just wanted Jews, foreigners to simply leave. He had to set up death camps because their was literally no practical way to get them out of the nation.

      No, the vast majority of Jews killed by the Nazis were not German, but were living in territories the Germans invaded so mostly the Nazis were the foreigners. The Nazi pursuit of Jews was not limited to Europe as they had teams hunting and killings Jews in North Africa. As much as Hitler hated “untermensch” oddly mixed race Black/Germans had a higher survival rate than white Germans (and much higher than Jews) because the men were precluded from serving in the German military.

      The Nazi plan was to outright kill Jews. Enslave the Slavs then sterilize them so they couldn’t reproduce and kill those who couldn’t serve the Reich’s needs. Poland, Ukraine, and Russia were to be Lebensraum for future generations of Aryans.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum

      • Jason Y

        I find it odd he would sterilize slavs, since nowadays the slav birth rate is so low anyway.

        • EPGAH

          So is America and WESTERN Europe. That’s why the savages can outbreed us. Although since we subsidize their breeding, it should be considered that we breed less because we can’t afford to pay for our kids and theirs too, and taxes are NOT optional, having your own kids is…

    • Toe Jam Football

      To Jason Y:

      He had to set up death camps because their was literally no practical way to get them out of the nation.

      No, once the Nazis invaded a nation, they would not allow Jews (or other groups they considered undesirables such as Roma ) to leave so the notion that there was no practical way to get Jews out of occupied Nazi territory is false.

      • Jason Y

        At first in Nazi Germany, the Jews were told to get out of the nation. Later it became impractical. Possibly under a war situation though, letting enemy races leave would threaten thier security. However, then again, perhaps Hitler changed his mind, maybe under the influence of syphalis, and decided to just wipe them off the map while he had the chance.

  9. Jason Y

    This shooting practically makes certain Trump’s rise to power and the destruction of any last liberal compassion for illegal immigrants and terrorists.

    • Jason Y

      I mean, Bush Sr. got to power over a “Willie Horton” (convicted Massachusetts black man set free) ad. Look how much worse this stuff is.

    • Toe Jam Football

      To Jason Y:

      This shooting practically makes certain Trump’s rise to power and the destruction of any last liberal compassion for illegal immigrants and terrorists.

      The liberal news media is generally describing the San Bernadino shooting as a sign that the US needs more gun control. I don’t think this incident will have any effect on the attitudes of the pro amnesty crowd.

      I would be surprised if Trump takes the Republican nomination and even more surprised if he becomes President, if he does,any measures he tries to push through to curtail illegal immigration will be immediately challenged in the courts and tied up for years.

      • Jason Y

        They won’t be tied up in courts if all kinds of terror incidents put the US under a type of marshal law. For instance, W. Bush got everybody to go along with the Patriot Act because of the shock of 9/11

        • EPGAH

          Then maybe the scum shouldn’t do “all kinds of terror incidents”, unless they WANT a backlash? You’re sounding more Conspiracy Theory than me!

      • Jason Y

        Trump is already surging in the polls due to terrorism, as expected.

  10. Jason Y

    No media coverage of the following shooting, cause all the victims were black and the shooter was black (Note, one victim was 10 years old.)

    http://madworldnews.com/giant-mass-shooting-talking/

  11. Odin

    Well they were following Christianity . In Christianity you consider Jesus Christ as God when in reality he was just a mere prophet . So you are in one way insulting Allah/ God by placing a mere human above the Almighty.Do you think god will take insult and mockery to him lightly.Because mocking God is mocking our very existence my friend.
    Second sin they were Americans and Americans support pornography and depravity which is a sin to society and eventually humanity and thus is the root cause of all evil and you guys are trying to impose your ways on the decent worshipers of Allah almighty which can anger any decent person who wants to keep his society clean .
    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t support their actions but if you support evil , evil is going to pee on you.
    It is one of Gods way of telling you to set your ways right my friend and remember God always prefers people who are loyal ,devoted to him over unbelievers and doubters like you because they are following the right meaningful path. Whereas you simply are wasting your time blogging and rambling. Oh Kuffar wake up! By the way I hate terrorism and killing of innocents . But the Islamic terrorism was born with US help. Also I pray to God that he shows you the light .
    May you be guided!
    God is great ,kind and all powerful.

    • Toe Jam Football

      To Odin:

      Well they were following Christianity.

      No the shooters in San Bernadino were clearly Muslim.

      In Christianity you consider Jesus Christ as God when in reality he was just a mere prophet.

      No way to prove either position.

      Don’t get me wrong, I don’t support their actions but if you support evil , evil is going to pee on you.

      So the answer is to go shoot up some disabled people..? Huh..? And how would you know if any of the victims “supported evil”. Makes as much sense as some guy shooting someone who he believes to be a Muslim shopkeeper. Either action is total BS.

      Americans support pornography and depravity which is a sin to society and eventually humanity and thus is the root cause of all evil..

      All Americans definitely do not support pornography …and how is porn the root of all evil..? Does this mean evil didn’t exist before porn..?

      • Jason Y

        The US does produce a ton of porn. Unfortunately, since so much is made by Jewish producers and companies, it gives a lot of fodder for WN accusations of “corruption of American morality”., which is more “truth mixed with lies” stuff that WNs preach all the time.

        However, looking at Islam, the religion is incredibly evil, so it seems like it’s just porn (one evil) vs another.

        • EPGAH

          How many people have been killed by porn, and how many people have been killed by Moslem terrorists?

          I would LOVE to hear your reason of Moral Equivalence for this, since “Odin” couldn’t be bothered explaining why the two were Morally Equivalent.

          The MOST I could see is that porn prevents us from fighting back effectively. The new Opiate of the Masses, perhaps? As long as people have their football, American Idol, and porn, there won’t be a MASSIVE backlash against enemy action of any kind…

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          The MOST I could see is that porn prevents us from fighting back effectively. The new Opiate of the Masses, perhaps? As long as people have their football, American Idol, and porn, there won’t be a MASSIVE backlash against enemy action of any kind…

          With what alternative? White nationalism? People don’t want white nationalism. People just want jobs, security, minus the racism.

        • EPGAH

          What is STOPPING the jobs and security? Maybe those minorities we don’t want to put in their place because we don’t want to be seen as racist?

          What has being racist cost a society, vs. what overdoing the “Don’t Be Racist” paranoia has cost us? Has anyone done an analysis like that?

    • EPGAH

      Then don’t support the Moslem Cult. THAT is evil!
      If we had fought the Moslem Cult all along, yes, this would be an act of war, but we don’t, we even let the animals take refuge–and worse, we allow foreign terrorists to buy guns!

      These Qur’animals came from SAUDI ARABIA, bought a gun, and started killing people the same day! The ONLY thing gun control laws did was guarantee that the Qur’animal terrorists were the ONLY ones armed inside that building.

      They didn’t even have to pay extra for same-day service!

      Why don’t we charge terrorists in our country an Existence Tax–a “Jizya”–to show contrition for their past terrorism against us? OR AT LEAST not let them buy guns to kill our people!

    • EPGAH

      Human rights, natural rights, are found only in Christendom, the West. We are taught that everyone believes in these rights. And we cannot understand why they treat so many people so horribly in non-Christian cultures. Maybe this will lift the veil. I’m just sorry so many good people had to find out how truly evil much of the world is.

      Read up on the interview with the father of this terrorist. It’s one of the “Moderate Moslems” Liberals love to claim exist. It claims its son was “obsessed” with [destroying] Israel. It didn’t share its son’s murderous intent, but agrees that Israel should “disappear” within 2 years.

      Exactly how will Israel “disappear” within 2 years? And how did they not see all those pipebombs in its room? Did they think those were spare XBOX controllers or something?

      I don’t think many of us are able to wrap our minds around the level of barbarity it takes in a soul to hold beliefs of that nature. We, fundamentally, believe all are created equal and possess natural rights. Unlike Obama’s claim to the contrary, these are not “universal values” — they are exclusively held by Christendom, specifically, the European peoples. Moslem terrorists do not believe in it.

      Islam is not moderate at all. It calls for the death , subjugation or forced conversion of all non-Moslems. Lynch is on the right track, trying to suppress all hateful speech. BUT going in the wrong direction on that track, trying to suppress all hateful speech AGAINST terrorists, not BY terrorists!

      Oh, and what about the machete maniac in the London “Tube”? Was that “Just Workplace Violence” too?

    • EPGAH

      And don’t forget, the father of this terrorist is raising the terrorist’s son.

      I don’t hold out much hope there, either. Steeped in that much hate, the grandson will turn out crazier than the son!

    • Jason Y

      Why do some South African whites call black people Kuffar? Why did they borrow that insult from the Muslims?

      Second sin they were Americans and Americans support pornography and depravity which is a sin to society and eventually humanity and thus is the root cause of all evil and you guys are trying to impose your ways on the decent worshipers of Allah almighty which can anger any decent person who wants to keep his society clean .

      Didn’t muslims practice sex slavery of non-believers back in the day? Ok, so your saying porn is bad, but sex slavery is ok.

      Not only did they practice sex slavery but they killed the children that were produced, along with castrating male slaves. All approved by the Quran.

    • EPGAH

      CAIR is now trying to keep the baby in the custody of terrorists.

      Where is CPS to remove the baby from a dangerous — and potentially fatal — environment? If her parents WEREN’T murderous maniacal terrorists, CPS would have already confiscated, spirited away and adopted the baby out to a charitable couple on the East Coast!

  12. You could do it without even rewriting that 18th-century-solution-to-an-18th-century-problem, the 2nd Amendment to your Constitution:

    “A well regulated Militia,”

    (Who are the kind of people you want in a well-regluated militia? Certainly those who know how to use a gun, handle it properly in a crisis, not be insane and not go murdering his neighbours.)

    “being necessary to the security of a free State,”

    (That is, not being itself a threat to that security.)

    “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    (Some have pointed out that “the people” is collective, that is it is the people in general, not persons – i.e. not every single individual nutter who wants to have a gun should have.)

    • EPGAH

      Yes, but the problem becomes “Who should have it, and who are the nutters”–and apparently, we can’t even filter out members of a worldwide terrorist cult as automatic “nutters”?

    • EPGAH

      Ironically, our gun laws are apparently working better than most.

      Take a look at Norway, tightest gun-control in the world (ALLEGEDLY), and yet, the worst ratio of mass shootings.

      Why is America the lowest? Could it be these scum “know” Americans are armed EXCEPT in places very publicly declared “Gun Free Zones”, so they leave us alone more or less?

      These scum don’t want a firefight, they want quick kills against unarmed prey!

      • Tulio

        Fox News cherry picked data. They are comparing the US to countries with tiny populations. Even one shooting incidence in a small ass country like Slovakia is going to skew the ratio. It’s basically nothing more than a sampling error fallacy.

        • EPGAH

          Well, you’re half right, they DO have small populations, smaller than NYC ALONE, BUT you forget they also have HOMOGENOUS populations–until recently.

          Liberals claim the rest of the world is “ashamed of our gun addiction”, but they kinda “forget” that we let the violent scum in, therefore we NEED the guns to protect ourselves…The countries who manage to keep the riffraff OUT have less violence!

          Also, the people who demand loudest for more restrictions on guns, usually live in safe, homogenous enclaves, with armed guards.
          Is this just a “coincidence” to you too?

  13. Tulio

    It’s odd to me what qualifies as “terrorism” and what doesn’t. These two people have no formal ties to ISIS. I thought to be a terrorist at the minimum means some ties to an actual terrorist organization if not taking direct orders from them. These two Muslims seemed to be freelancers working for no one. Why wasn’t the Dylan Roof or Elliot Rodger shooting considered terrorism? They weren’t taking orders from anyone either. Why weren’t these two Muslims merely deranged as the media labeled Roof and Rodger? How were they different?

  14. Elliot Rodger – not domestic terrorism.

    Dylan Roof and San Berdoo shooters – domestic terrorism.

    Terrorism is any act of violence against innocent civilians that has a political motive.

    Dylan Roof had a political motive – White nationalism. San Berdoo shooters had a political motive – Islam and ISIS World jihad.

    Elliot Rodger did not have a political motive, hence his is not terrorism.

    These are really the same crimes, it’s just that one has a political motive and the other do not.

    • Tulio

      The thing is, it seems nobody out there considers Dylan Roof a terrorist. He’s seen as a disturbed loner. He’s definitely not being put in the same box as Al Queda.

      • EPGAH

        As to why Dylan Roof is considered different, look at those other killings. Larger in number, maybe, but they didn’t INTENTIONALLY let anyone go.
        Roof DID!

        And there’s the infamous room scene which has been picked apart by PhotoShop experts around the world.

        He’s a little TOO White Nationalist. Robert Lindsay once called Black violence “Masculinity for people who’ve never had male role models.”
        I hereby categorize Roof as being basically the same thing for the White Nationalist. He never actually JOINED any major movement, but he adopted all the SYMBOLS.

        And his best friend was Black. His Manifesto was Copy&Paste from at least 10 different Websites. Look closely, even the writing styles are different!

        Alternately: The media might just be CALLING him a White Nationalist.
        The same way they called Chris Harper-Mercer a “White Nationalist”.
        A mulatto shooting Christians. He and Roof must’ve both been reading from the ABRIDGED Book of White Nationalism?
        Or just mislabeled by the media. If they had been Moslems, don’t you think it would get wallpapered over as “Workplace Violence”™?

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/03/president-obama-california-attack-dont-know-workplace-violence/

      • EPGAH

        Hey, how come it seems “nobody out there” considers the Black Panthers or Black Lies Matter a terrorist outfit?

        When was the last time whites rioted and burned down any town, village, or city? There has not been a white riot in America since the 1800’s, if then. If you consider what a bunch of idiot sports nuts have done as rioting, you need to go back to school. That is like comparing tigers and cats. Hint: Roy Horn was NOT MAULED by a house cat!

        Why haven’t the military cleared out the enemy agents burning down our cities?

        • Bronze

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot. Also 30 years later similar people were killing other races for dating white women when secretly trying to sleep with my native american grandmother. Don’t get me wrong, Furgeson mad me really angry, but morons having wepons has always ended the same. Innocents suffer.

        • EPGAH

          Why are you bringing up the Tulsa Race Riots? 70-some Black thugs attacked the jail, then when the Law fought back, they sought refuge in Black-owned businesses. And the Black-owned businesses sheltered them, instead of hand them over to the cops, so they had to be literally smoked out.

          Then, as now, they fought the law and the law won.
          How can you possibly consider that the same as a Ferguson, Detroit, Los Angeles, or Baltimore?

          And if you look at it, yes, it was caused by morons having weapons — WWI weapons, State of the Art for that era!

        • EPGAH

          In case you didn’t get it before, burning buildings where Blacks were harboring Black criminals is totally different from Black thugs looting and burning innocents’ stores over a dead thug.
          One is enforcing the law, the other is breaking it.

        • Bronze

          If that is what happened then I stand corrected. However the person they were defending was found innocent of whatever happened. And moved on to live his life elsewhere. I don’t think they were thugs, as a war just happened and many were veterans. The casualties caused were the acts of marksmen. Also on the white side they had attack planes and slew fleeing women and children trying to leave the city. Thugs would run in the face of police, these men duked it out with a lynch mob. As I recall thy offered to defend the jail when the sheriff was overran. Despite what you want to believe, the fighters were out gunned and held there own against impossible odds the confusion was such the some of the mob accidently shot each other.
          The thugs you are speaking of now adays are not worthy of such a title.

        • EPGAH

          Did you actually READ the Wikipedia article you linked to?
          These BLACK THUGS were surrounding the jail to bust someone out. Maybe they were going to lynch it, maybe they were going to set it free? Does that matter? They were trying to bypass justice! They were not there to DEFEND the jail!

          Ironically the whites you called a “lynch mob” were. The whites demanded the Blacks stand down and hand over their guns. Instead, the Blacks shot the whites. That started a “war” of sorts.

          I suppose they were giving the guns to the whites, bullets-first, but that is NOT what was meant. We can discuss about the SPIRIT of an order vs. the LETTER of an order later, if you want, but if that’s the angle you’re taking, that’s incredibly sophist of you.

          As to the “attack planes”, those were UNARMED TRAINER PLANES flying over the barricades the Blacks had built and dropping Molotovs to smoke them out. Nowadays, we’d congratulate them for “thinking outside the box.”
          The thugs WERE “holding out against impossible odds”, but shouldn’t they have just surrendered? I don’t care if they were veterans, they broke the law, they got punished for it! Good riddance.

          Despite what you want to believe, the thugs got what they deserved. So did the businesses who took them in. The bad news is, it spread to Blacks who didn’t deserve to be punished along with the thugs. However, they didn’t care about collateral damage, otherwise, they wouldn’t have started the fight, right?

        • EPGAH

          Once the war starts, unless they had the foresight to wear uniforms, there WILL be some friendly fire. Even in “real” wars where there ARE uniforms, sometimes there is STILL friendly fire, or worse, the bad guys wear good guy uniforms to get into the middle of good guy encampments before shooting the good guys.

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2952397/Iraqi-army-repels-attack-base-hosting-U-S-Marines-officials.html
          https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1873&dat=19610606&id=MU0fAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lNEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=897,890100&hl=en
          Even PARIS terrorists wearing FRENCH Army uniforms!

          It sounds like a gambit from a cartoon, but it’s EFFECTIVE, so they’ll keep doing it!

        • EPGAH

          PS, thugs nowadays not only DIDN’T run before cops, but staged and executed an ambush on NATIONAL GUARD in Baltimore!

          HOWEVER, by my way of thinking, they would not do so unless they KNEW there would be no repercussions for it, i.e., being gunned down like the animals they acted like, right? They KNEW they could fight the NATIONAL GUARD and not get killed for it, so this bolstered their “bravery”. If they thought resistance would be shot or burned, don’t you think they would’ve dropped their weapons and begged for mercy?
          Or what do you think the response would be? The problem is not some magic abundance of criminals, but lack of discipline, the inmates run the asylum, so to speak.

        • Bronze

          Lol. That was the worst interpretation I heard yet. Thinking outside the box by firebombing your enimies. This was considered one of the more elite black areas. They had money why would they just be beligerent for no reason? You consider a white lynch mob justice? Considering the circumstances, these men A. believed in American dream, B. had a lot more than me or u to loose. C. Witnessed the same lynch mob kill another man before trial who was white.
          But we are drifting off topic. Yes whites have burned down parts of the cities before.
          Isis is different. They are not a rebel gang to be trifled with. They are the byproduct of a revolution that has toppled several governments and will topple ours if we are not careful. As we sit, they consider us evil. The product of Satan and the heralds of the apocolypse. It is stated in the manifesto. They have lost much and are prepared to war as long as it takes. The military thought we dealt them a killing blow, but they are back stronger than ever. They have even infultrated our ranks as I was on the ship. How are you suppose to stop an army of God laying waste to the oppressors? The longer they hold out, the greater the threat. As any would be promised land……I believe in Christ btw.

        • EPGAH

          The most dangerous scum, allegedly, are those willing to die in the name of their Holy Call — even though even a cursory analysis of the Quran links Allah to what we call Satan…So why the hesitation? Let’s grant their Wish!

          The problem as I see it is that we keep talking about giving the terrorists A killing blow.
          Have we ever beaten ANY enemy with ONE nonnuclear killing blow? Come to think of it, the ONE enemy we beat with nukes, it took TWO to make them surrender, right?

          You are right, though, they have the advantage they are willing to war as long as it takes, Americans keep protesting against OUR OWN MILITARY because it “takes too long” to beat the enemies. AND our own people denigrate the military for killing the bad guys so they don’t kill us!

          I’m ex-Air Force, I’ve LIVED this, this isn’t some kind of dogma.

          They would rather what, our Men drop our weapons and let the enemy run roughshod over us like a tidal wave of blood and nightmares?
          Maybe if we bend over for them, it won’t hurt as much or something?

        • Tulio

          There have definitely been white riots in the 20th century against blacks. I remember reading one in Chicago where some black boxer had a defeated a white boxer and the whites were so pissed that they rampaged through a black area beating everyone in sight.

          Who have the black panthers or black lives matter killed?

        • EPGAH

          Black Lies Matter have tried to strangle the shopping centers of Chicago, and DID blockade a Police Station in Minnesota. Police coverage is bad enough already without blocking the officers from doing their jobs.

          And when some whites went to see what the Dindu Soldiers were dinduing, a group of thugs hit them, chased them into an alley — THEN one of the whites pulled a gun and shot the thugs.

          I don’t know if there were any deaths in the Baltimore or Ferguson riots, but by burning CVS and the old-folks’ home, they have indirectly contributed to a LOT of deaths! And over what? A dead thug?!

          Plus, of course, not fighting them ties up police who should be fighting bad guys, or worse, tries to get them to NOT beat or kill the scum, which leads to the cops getting beaten or killed instead!

          http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/us/alabama-birmingham-police-detective-pistol-whipped/
          The thug stole his gun and beat him with it because he was afraid to shoot the thug…because he didn’t want to cause another Black Lies Matter riot?!
          THAT is the damage they cause!

        • EPGAH

          Also, since 1970, the number of cops killed by scum has been on a downslope. 40 years in the right direction.

          Then in 2012, murders of cops SPIKE! We have a cop stabbed and thrown off an overpass! A cop and her kids shot in broad daylight! An ambush at a gas station. 15 BULLETS IN ONE COP! Wasn’t one of the Black Lies Matter riots over some thug getting shot that many times?

          We also have Black Panthers and Black Lies Matter putting bounties on the heads of everyone from Neighborhood Watch on up to cops!
          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2840003/Militant-group-offers-cash-rewards-location-Ferguson-police-officer-Darren-Wilson-says-ammunition-solve-lot-problems.html

          So Black Lies Matter and Black Panthers NOW have restarted the Thugs vs. Cops war of 1960s…Except THIS time, cops get in trouble if they fight back, rather than being slow-clapped for doing their job!

          https://emsnews.wordpress.com/2014/11/19/both-black-and-white-police-officers-are-killed-by-thugs-every-year-not-a-peep-from-liberals-and-black-racists/

          http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-81958539/

          We can’t put ALL these deaths at the feet of the Black Lies Matter scum, but there has to be SOME responsibility for these animals showing other animals they can fight the cops and the COPS get punished, not them, right? Or what concept of “responsibility” do you go by?

        • EPGAH

          http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/08/26/fukyoflag-threatens-veteran-pregnant-wife-and-fing-piece-of-s-unborn-creature/
          What about this? Threats by Black Lies Matter against an American veteran, his wife, and their unborn child…

          The police wouldn’t even HAVE to deal with this, really. Just tell the veterans they could deal as they saw fit with any Black Lies Matter scum threatening them and their family, and the scum would get real polite or real dead in HOURS!

        • EPGAH

          The look on the Black Lies Matter face when they suddenly realize they’ve pissed off American military — and those selfsame military are freed of consequences when they fight back — should be worthy of its own MasterCard commercial!

          “Hands Up Don’t Shoot”: A big lie.
          Ferguson arson: $4.6 MILLION, not counting stolen merchandise. 10 wounded.
          Baltimore rioting: $9 MILLION in businesses alone. 130 injuries.
          The look on thugs’ face when Americans are free to fight back: PRICELESS!

          Do you think they would chuckle nervously and say “Can’tcha take a joke?”
          Would they resort to ACTUALLY RAISING THEIR HANDS and hoping the good guys don’t shoot, rather than charging like animals and getting shot?
          Or would they be happy to get the war they’ve been pushing for?

        • EPGAH

          http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/10/breanna-champion-chicago-police-should-be-defunded/
          One of these Black Extremists is demanding we DEFUND the police!

          ” One of our major demands is that police be defunded and that that money used to fund police be used to fund black futures, and be used to fund our communities and things that we need.”

          Do you think that will make the citizens safer or less safe?
          We NEED police, not to fund more thuggery!

      • Jason Y

        Yeah, that’s interesting since white nationalists are all over the US, much more than “Muslim extremist sleeper cells”. Shouldn’t we be worried about white nationalists, and what terrorist actions they might come up with?

        I mean, if some city goes up in a nuke, at least according to the “Turner Diaries”, then that’s something for WNs to celebrate. Think I’m wrong? Read the book yourself.

        • EPGAH

          If Moslems nuke a city, then it’s time for whites to give them a BIG Bag of “Told You So”.

          But unlike Liberals, whites don’t do the “Munchausen By Proxy” thing. We’ve already caught a thug burning down Black churches, and the thug sending death threats to Black Lies Matter turned out to be Black.

          Can you provide ACTUAL EXAMPLES of White Nationalist False Flag attacks?

  15. Bronze

    Its the effects of the Arab spring…blaming poverty on not following Islam. Also anti western sentiment. As military guy the Isis threat only gets worse as the caliphat becomes more legitimate.All it needs is for 2 real countries to consider it legal and the headache starts. Well the real headaches.

    • Jason Y

      I have a feeling a madman (or angry little girl as RobertLindsay says) like Trump might wipe out the middle east. If anyone attacks his motive, he will just say they’re being “politically correct”.

      • Jason Y

        Trump could go further than Bush, even with nukes. He’ll just say, “Whoopee, This so much more fun than my model train set I got for Christmas!”😆

      • EPGAH

        They’ve had it coming since the 1830s. Look up the Barbary Pirates, who we paid “Protection Money” to the tune of 20% of our GNP — and they STILL sank our ships, stole the cargoes and enslaved the crews.

        That’s where the “Shores of Tripoli” part of the Marine Hymn comes from!

        The Moslems keep taking our money to not attack us — then attacking us.
        The Moslems keep “surrendering” — then attacking us.
        Time to stop paying them.
        Time to stop accepting perfidious phony “surrenders”!

  16. EPGAH

    Abusus non tollit usem. Abuse does not take away use.

    Just because THUGS use guns for bad ends, we should blame and crack down on THUGS, not the guns. Guns can be — and ARE — used by GOOD people to put scum back in their place and return society to order.

    Sadly, we don’t live in a universe where we can give the Scum of the Earth a roundhouse kick, yell, “Know Your Place” and it slinks off, defeated, never to bother its betters again. These terrorists were defeated, but took over 300 rounds to kill! That means guns played a big part in getting rid of them! So we should not disarm ourselves just because scum can get guns.

  17. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Have we ever beaten ANY enemy with ONE nonnuclear killing blow? Come to think of it, the ONE enemy we beat with nukes, it took TWO to make them surrender, right?

    It would take a lot more to make the Muslim world bow to the white man. Not only do you have the middle east, but also Indonesia. If you did finally “put them in their place”, the middle east (and Indonesia) would be totally uninhabitable for thousands of years.

    • Jason Y

      You also gotta remember Japan was on it’s knees already, and Japanese people are not the same culturally as Muslims, blacks, latinos etc.. Japanese were practically “wannabe” Americans even back in the 1920s.

      • EPGAH

        Japan was not “on its knees already”. We had beaten their military in land, sea, and air, pried their grubby meathooks off China and every island in the South Pacific, swept the skies clean of their “Air Force”…

        But they still wouldn’t surrender!
        Even the first nuke was dismissed as a “Lucky Punch”! That’s arrogance beyond most cartoon characters!

        It took a second nuke to break their Superiority Complex, and even then they wanted the God-Emperor held blameless, his “Evil” military had done WWII all by themselves!

        • Jason Y

          It took a second nuke to break their Superiority Complex, and even then they wanted the God-Emperor held blameless, his “Evil” military had done WWII all by themselves!

          So how is that any different than the white nationalist hero Hitler? Unless of course, somebody would mention Japanese are not white.

          Also, Germans were quite defiant to the end, even enlisting children as soldiers, and demanding death before dishonor.

        • EPGAH

          1.) The Germans SURRENDERED WITHOUT BEING NUKED!
          2.) Both sides “enlisted children as soldiers”.
          3.) Toward the end, the Germans were going through the motions — and that’s all. The German Government handed out ROCKET LAUNCHERS to the public to try to stop the invasion of Berlin. Most of them missed on purpose, but fired anyways, so they could say “And I Helped”!

      • EPGAH

        If they were “wannabe Americans” why did they attack America instead of calling off their attack on China like we told them to?

        And a sneak attack?
        And gloating about it 24 hours later?
        They had to know that shit would be punished, right?

        • Jason Y

          Japan was simply following the racist playbook of viewing Chinese as savages and parasites. 🙄 To Japan, China was the Mexico, the Muslim World, the Soviet Union all rolled together.

          If Japan should be punished, then the US should be punished for talking bad about Latin America or the Moslem world.

        • EPGAH

          Where do you see America doing a Rape of Nanking on the Mexican parasites or the Moslem terrorists?
          Or a Bataan Death March?

          Also, where do you see illegals or terrorists from China?

        • Jason Y

          <blockquote.Where do you see America doing a Rape of Nanking on the Mexican parasites or the Moslem terrorists?
          Or a Bataan Death March?

          Also, where do you see illegals or terrorists from China?

          China was a threat to Japan, much as slavs were a threat to Germany, and Mexicans are to the USA.

        • EPGAH

          China and Japan invaded each other many times, but America and the rest of the Civilized World put a stop to that. Like I said, the Civilized World enforces peace.

          Mexicans ARE a threat, from economic to biological.
          They’re bringing back diseases we thought we had exterminated 50 years ago, PLUS some new ones!
          Take the chikungunya disease. Or Chagas. That’s Mexico, bringing Third World violence and disease to our doorstep for 150 years!

          PLUS undercutting our Minimum Wage laws, and contributing to “Economic Inequality” and the attendant complaints about it.

          If they have too many people, they should deal with it themselves, not dump it on us. But since they DO dump on us, maybe we need to change the way we deal with their shit. Instead of just repatriating it back ALIVE AND INTACT, take what organs we need, and return the unused portion.

    • EPGAH

      Why does it need to be uninhabitable for thousands of years? The areas of Japan that were nuked are already not only habitable, but INHABITED!

      And we don’t HAVE to go nuclear on the terrorists. A large-scale non-nuclear carpet-bombing could get the point across, and make the terrorists leave us alone for X years, where X is higher the more scum that get killed.

      But idiots want to send “Boots On The Ground”, have a “Fair Fight” with terrorists! This gives the scum something to shoot at, and as long as they think they can win, they’ll keep attacking us.

      IDEALLY, we could set it up such that their NEXT attack on us would be their LAST attack on us, like we did with the savages in America, but people seem squeamish about killing those that want to kill US!
      They have no such compunction…why is that?

      • Jason Y

        Nukes of that magnitude wouldn’t turn any place into a scene like the desert on the original “Planet of the Apes”?

        I don’t think the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nukes are comparable to the ones now.

      • Jason Y

        I have a feeling, though it may seem like a loony conspiracy theory to some, that Trump might have the guts to nuke the middle east. Of course, the main problem for Europe and America would be the fallout. I don’t think the west will get away with it without environmental damage at home.

        Whatever the case, at the very least, a massive police state would be inevitable, comparable to something you’d see on some plague outbreak movie.

        • EPGAH

          Well, the Mexicans and Moslems that already infiltrated America are a plague comparable to that kind of movie, so it would need that kind of response.

          As to nuke, why? We can use MOABS to stop them.

        • Jason Y

          Whatever you say ep-gah, in response to MOABS, but mind you, US and other western companies were major players in creating the immigration problem, hence justice is not on the white nationalist side.

        • EPGAH

          Yes, it is. Our country, our rules, if they don’t FEEL like following them, we get to punish them.

          How do you get that we were “major players in creating the immigration problem”? Only way I can see is that our food, money, and meds created population booms. We gave them too much too soon?

          Or that they saw we made better things possible, so they thought rather than wait for us to upgrade their country or accept what we give them, they could invade our country and take what they saw as “their share”?
          Kinda like giving a bum $10, then it follows you home, breaks into your house and takes whatever it wants?

        • Jason Y

          Quote by ep-gah

          Yes, it is. Our country, our rules, if they don’t FEEL like following them, we get to punish them.

          How do you get that we were “major players in creating the immigration problem”? Only way I can see is that our food, money, and meds created population booms. We gave them too much too soon?

          Or that they saw we made better things possible, so they thought rather than wait for us to upgrade their country or accept what we give them, they could invade our country and take what they saw as “their share”?
          Kinda like giving a bum $10, then it follows you home, breaks into your house and takes whatever it wants?

          Oh, I get it. So a person goes out and harasses people on thier land, and then the person comes to their house, harassing them, and they start saying, “It’s our house. Our rules”.

          Nice logic.

        • EPGAH

          We don’t harass them in their land. We BUILD a nice house for them.
          It’s not as nice as ours, so they break into ours.

  18. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Human rights, natural rights, are found only in Christendom, the West. We are taught that everyone believes in these rights. And we cannot understand why they treat so many people so horribly in non-Christian cultures. Maybe this will lift the veil. I’m just sorry so many good people had to find out how truly evil much of the world is.

    So your saying such values exist within one religion? So your saying race has nothing to do with it? Couldn’t non-white people hold Christian values?

    • EPGAH

      Sure! Show me the large, credible group of nonwhites that feel ANY kind of compunction about invading their betters’ countries and mass-murdering their betters.

      Then show me exactly WHAT they’ve done to try to STOP it!
      I think you’ll find they’re too “peaceful” to stop their warlike brethren, then join their warlike brethren to kill US when we try to punish them!

  19. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    In case you didn’t get it before, burning buildings where Blacks were harboring Black criminals is totally different from Black thugs looting and burning innocents’ stores over a dead thug.
    One is enforcing the law, the other is breaking it.

    That always seems to be the case in guerilla warfare where the enemy hides among the population. The military goes in and gets rough, and lots of kids and other innocents die.

  20. Bronze

    EPGAH has a point on the thug idea. Things can’t continue like this. Muslims not only fight Christians but also themselves. We have a ban on many many many coutnries and people, we have the lowest immigration rate ever I think.(don’t quote me). I watched a tape on what ISIS is doing to the Assyrians. Its just wrong. How can a follower of the One condone such acts. Rape should never be an option. Its one hell of a mess. If ISIS starts loosing, they pretend not to be an Army and resort to gorrilla warfare, then when things are quite they re emerge. And to boot AL Quida can’t get rid of them. The only way to destroy an infected population is poision. Take all the drugs we confiscate from the Mexicans and send it over there for free. Within 5 years they will loose there will to fight.

  21. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Just to be sure I have this straight, you consider people being snobby to be a capital offense?

    AND somehow those are “Bad” Christians, exactly on par with Bad Blacks, who MURDER PEOPLE?!

    So in your world, being a snobby clique is Morally Equivalent…to MURDER?!

    No I don’t think it’s a capital offense, but it does cause resentment among misfits who think it’s hypocritical, considering Christians are supposed to be kind and the “good guys”.

    • EPGAH

      We are the good guys, but good is not always nice, especially to known enemies.

      But back to your statement, you were justifying these savages murdering Christians because Christians are snobby. That is the DEFINITION of a capital offense!
      How do you even equate the two?

    • EPGAH

      Come to think of it, we let the terrorists build Mosques in OUR countries, but they don’t let us build churches in theirs, so isn’t that snobby and we should vent our “resentment” by killing arbitrary numbers of terrorists?

  22. EPGAH

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/10/washington-post-gun-laws-not-prevented-recent-mass-shootings/
    Rubio actually got a “Gepetto Checkmark” for his admission that there is no extra law that would’ve prevented any of the recent mass shootings!

  23. EPGAH

    Breaking news: A MEXICAN Moslem bought the guns for the two terrorists!
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/17/farooks-neighbor-enrique-marquez-charged/
    This is a double-whammy on the immigration front!

    Newsflash for people who think we need MORE LAWS: Straw purchaser beats background check!

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